Stephen Jackson on Kawhi-DeMar Trade

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSMtDQHubl0

[Blake]

All I got out of that was "kawhi do what you want to do"

Deep.

[FkLA]

ghetto hoodrat tbh

(didn't watch, whatd he say)

[DMC]

He's right if you don't consider making the western conference Finals as "doing shit".

Personal preferences and axes to grind do not equal good takes. He has a legit point, he's been there and done that, but you don't have to be in the NBA to understand that businesses will sell you as any other resource. You can sacrifice for the company, they will not sacrifice for you. It's not in their game plan to do so.

That said, there's a reason these guys are paid millions. When you make that kind of money, you have to know that you are a contractor and you can be sent anywhere at any time. You are free to decline.

I don't hate Kawhi for wanting to leave SA. I just don't get how he went about it mostly because I don't know anything about it because neither side thinks the fans are legit entities.

[RD2191]

There's nothing wrong with leaving. But the way Kawhi left was wrong. He quit on the team and tried to burn down PATFO on his way out. That's why people are pissed at Kawhi.

[BillMc]

Stephen always finds ways to take shots at Manu and Tony. Jealous SJax?

[kobyz]

How much titles we would've right now if we kept him after 2003 instead of signing hedo?

[Chucho]

Stephen always finds ways to take shots at Manu and Tony. Jealous SJax?


Yeah, he is. He could have been part of a dynasty and held out for more money and ended up taking $100k less and went to Atlanta instead of waiting it out. He got paid eventually, as did Manu and Parker, except they won multiple rings are 1st ballot HoFers. Of course he's jealous, he has a major inferiority complex.

[Chucho]

How much titles we would've right now if we kept him after 2003 instead of signing hedo?

We would have rang 04 and 06, so we would have won 4 straight.

[DMC]

How much titles we would've right now if we kept him after 2003 instead of signing hedo?

How much? Probably 100% of the ones we have.

[marinoman]

Meh

[kobyz]

We would have rang 04 and 06, so we would have won 4 straight.

Stupid rc and pop, no surprise kawhi not believing in them and wanting to leave...

[Dex]

Stephen always finds ways to take shots at Manu and Tony. Jealous SJax?

There is no other SJax. Dude doesn't see a problem with what Kawhi did because he burned his bridges with Pop and the Spurs a long time ago.

[daslicer]

How much titles we would've right now if we kept him after 2003 instead of signing hedo?

Spurs probably win in '04 but that's it. Jax is a cancer and would have gone crazy after '04 knowing that Parker and Manu would have bigger roles than him. No way could Jax accept being a 4th option.

[weebo]

Under pay you? :lol

This nugg would be doing time for slinging crack or working baggage at the airport if it weren't for all those measly NBA checks he cashed. :LOL

[Pavlov]

That is one bitter dude.

[Dex]

Also, SJax is spitting off here like players don't have the options to just NOT SIGN EXTENSIONS.

Every player in the league has always had the option to do what they want to do. If you don't want to be with a team long-term, don't sign a 5 year contract. If you don't want to be there anymore, finish your contract and become an UFA instead of signing an extension then trying to bitch your way out of it.

I'm tired of this narrative that these guys getting paid millions of dollar to do the job of basketball are being treated like they are slaves. If you don't want to be tied to a contract, then don't sign one and see how well you do fielding one-to-two year deals.

[DJR210]

@1:12 I'm willing to bet that's not Newport smoke :hat

[weebo]

Also, SJax is spitting off here like players don't have the options to just NOT SIGN EXTENSIONS.

Every player in the league has always had the option to do what they want to do. If you don't want to be with a team long-term, don't sign a 5 year contract. If you don't want to be there anymore, finish your contract and become an UFA instead of signing an extension then trying to bitch your way out of it.

I'm tired of this narrative that these guys getting paid millions of dollar to do the job of basketball are being treated like they are slaves. If you don't want to be tied to a contract, then don't sign one and see how well you do fielding one-to-two year deals.

Ya, I guess capn' Jax doesn't understand what contracts are...

[Seventyniner]

Also, SJax is spitting off here like players don't have the options to just NOT SIGN EXTENSIONS.

Every player in the league has always had the option to do what they want to do. If you don't want to be with a team long-term, don't sign a 5 year contract. If you don't want to be there anymore, finish your contract and become an UFA instead of signing an extension then trying to bitch your way out of it.

I'm tired of this narrative that these guys getting paid millions of dollar to do the job of basketball are being treated like they are slaves. If you don't want to be tied to a contract, then don't sign one and see how well you do fielding one-to-two year deals.

This right here.

[cd98]

Maybe he should be more embarrassed to get paid millions to smoke weed before games to the point that he plays horribly. Yet he tells that story like he’s proud. I guess he has a funny way of showing he respects and loves the game.

[BillMc]

Also, SJax is spitting off here like players don't have the options to just NOT SIGN EXTENSIONS.

Every player in the league has always had the option to do what they want to do. If you don't want to be with a team long-term, don't sign a 5 year contract. If you don't want to be there anymore, finish your contract and become an UFA instead of signing an extension then trying to bitch your way out of it.

I'm tired of this narrative that these guys getting paid millions of dollar to do the job of basketball are being treated like they are slaves. If you don't want to be tied to a contract, then don't sign one and see how well you do fielding one-to-two year deals.

Unfortunately, the strategy seems to be "get your money, then force your way out." Stephen himself did that. Melo did that. Kawhi did that. Secure the purse strings, then work on your "other problems" is the metnality.

[Dex]

Unfortunately, the strategy seems to be "get your money, then force your way out." Stephen himself did that. Melo did that. Kawhi did that. Secure the purse strings, then work on your other problems is the metnality.

I understand the mentality, and if they want to get paid, great. But don't pull this "woe is me" bullshit and act like the victims if that's how you want to play the game.

SJax cited Lebron as some kind of shining example, but there is a big fucking difference from Lebron and Kawhi. Lebron actually finished his contracts, and left as a FA when it was his time to do so...just like any other player in the league has the option to do.

[BillMc]

I understand the mentality, and if they want to get paid, great. But don't pull this "woe is me" bullshit and act like the victims if that's how you want to play the game.

SJax cited Lebron as some kind of shining example, but there is a big fucking difference from Lebron and Kawhi. Lebron actually finished his contracts, and left as a FA when it was his time to do so...just like any other player in the league has the option to do.

Agree 100%

[Chris]

There's nothing wrong with leaving. But the way Kawhi left was wrong. He quit on the team and tried to burn down PATFO on his way out. That's why people are pissed at Kawhi.

Yeah being told by 6 specialists that you are fine in addition to the Spurs medical staff. Hope my numbers are right. But that one specialist in New York said what you wanted him to say. Doubt most fans will ever forgive him for that imo

[ducks]

was he right when he said he could only play for pop
was he right when he wanted to guarantee to start
was he right when he told pop he was better then manu

[daslicer]

Jax's feeling about the Spurs is equivalent to a racist's feelings about another race. Just like a racist he will never be happy until his enemy is dead. He will always be filled with hatred and rage simply because in his delusional mind he believes he was done dirty by the Spurs. It sucks how Jax had a big hand in fucking over the Spurs by pushing his bs narrative about Parker/Manu disrespecting Kawhi by having that meeting. The media ate up that narrative and it magnified the drama with the Spurs. I'm convinced Jax will not find any peace until Parker/Manu are both dead that's how sick of a person he is.

[coachmac87]

Request a no trade clause...

Dont sign if you clearly don’t understand what could come of it...

True benefit of having a good agent will get ya...

[james evans]

Yeah being told by 6 specialists that you are fine in addition to the Spurs medical staff. Hope my numbers are right. But that one specialist in New York said what you wanted him to say. Doubt most fans will ever forgive him for that imo
I don’t know if Leonard is faking or not but I’m still being told by medical staffs now that my knees and body are fine. A month ago in rehab, I ended up getting hurt even worse. YES IN REHAB!! So please excuse me if I don’t 100% believe the word of a doctor reading a chart.

[Trainwreck2100]

Request a no trade clause...

Dont sign if you clearly don’t understand what could come of it...

True benefit of having a good agent will get ya...

Can't request one till you're an 8 year vet minimum

[objective]

Yeah, he is. He could have been part of a dynasty and held out for more money and ended up taking $100k less and went to Atlanta instead of waiting it out. He got paid eventually, as did Manu and Parker, except they won multiple rings are 1st ballot HoFers. Of course he's jealous, he has a major inferiority complex.

If I remember right, it wasn't 100k

I think the Spurs offered 3/9 and he took 1/1 or 1/1.5

Spurs had the biggest offer by far, there were no restricted rights hanging over his head, no reason to be mad at the Spurs, they beat every offer

He bet on himself and won, he shouldn't be so bitter that the Spurs offered him the most money

[jjktkk]

Stephen always finds ways to take shots at Manu and Tony. Jealous SJax?

Agree. Jax has no credibility regarding the Leonard situation

[TheDoctor]

There's nothing wrong with leaving. But the way Kawhi left was wrong. He quit on the team and tried to burn down PATFO on his way out. That's why people are pissed at Kawhi.
Nice take Rocalcio :tu

[RD2191]

Nice take Rocalcio :tu

Son of a bitch!! :pctoss

[hooperflash]

ghetto hoodrat tbh

(didn't watch, whatd he say)
Spurs ain’t shit without Tim Duncan .... smh SJAX

[YoungbuckMurray]

just wasted 2 mins of my life. SJax is an idiot

[SpursDynasty85]

I've seen some videos of his reaction. He is paid to be divisive. Unfortunately there are very few ways to get on tv and that is the route he took. I always felt he contradicts himself a lot and shows unneeded disrespect towards Tony and Manu. Says organization and Pop are classy and he loves SA yet criticizes them co.pletely by the way they treat their stars and always team first. At this point he is not worth listening to.

[Marcus Bryant]

gQIIOWPNYM0

[cheguevara]

this poor bastard is going to end up like Stevie Franchise

and agree, he's paid to act hoodrat

[OldMan88]

this poor bastard is going to end up like Stevie Franchise

and agree, he's paid to act hoodrat

Act?

[SpurPadre]

Can someone please spare me the trouble of watching his wannabe gangsta ass and give me the gist of what he said?

[BillMc]

Can someone please spare me the trouble of watching his wannabe gangsta ass and give me the gist of what he said?

He said: (paraphrasing): Kawhi should follow LeBron's lead and do whatever he wants because teams don't care about players, as they trade them, under pay them, etc, and in this case its okay to leave SA because the Spurs "haven't done shit" since TD retired, because Manu and Tony specifically aren't good enough. He is "Team Kawhi."

[xellos88330]

I don't care what Jax wants to say really. He does have a point though. Kawhi is his own person. Let him be it. If he wants to leave, then let him. He didn't like it here. People are who they are, and what exactly is so wrong about that? The reality is that the game is played by players. Sure they are payed by team owners etc. but the game is useless without them. Do I wish Kawhi would have behaved differently? Of course I do. He didn't, but is that really a reason to ostracize him? I don't think it is. I know that I wouldn't appreciate people coming down on me for leaving a situation that was toxic to me. It is what it is. Let's just move on. We already know the Spurs is a great organization. It is my hope that they will prove themselves to us this upcoming season. It is time for them to really show what they are made of. Can they keep up the winning culture without Kawhi? My guess is yes just based on what the Spurs accomplished without him this past season. I think the Spurs will be quite fine. The Spurs went far solely on the back of Aldridge, without the help of Leonard. So this upcoming season will be a joy to watch again without any drama. Aldridge and DeRozan should be interesting to watch. Last season the Spurs only had Aldridge. This year they have another all-star talent to lean on. Last year, we just had aging stars to complement him. I fully expect the Spurs to deliver winning basketball again.

[james evans]

I don't care what Jax wants to say really. He does have a point though. Kawhi is his own person. Let him be it. If he wants to leave, then let him. He didn't like it here. People are who they are, and what exactly is so wrong about that? The reality is that the game is played by players. Sure they are payed by team owners etc. but the game is useless without them. Do I wish Kawhi would have behaved differently? Of course I do. He didn't, but is that really a reason to ostracize him? I don't think it is. I know that I wouldn't appreciate people coming down on me for leaving a situation that was toxic to me. It is what it is. Let's just move on. We already know the Spurs is a great organization. It is my hope that they will prove themselves to us this upcoming season. It is time for them to really show what they are made of. Can they keep up the winning culture without Kawhi? My guess is yes just based on what the Spurs accomplished without him this past season. I think the Spurs will be quite fine. The Spurs went far solely on the back of Aldridge, without the help of Leonard. So this upcoming season will be a joy to watch again without any drama. Aldridge and DeRozan should be interesting to watch. Last season the Spurs only had Aldridge. This year they have another all-star talent to lean on. Last year, we just had aging stars to complement him. I fully expect the Spurs to deliver winning basketball again.
what's wrong with it, these mother fuckers here think they own a player hahaha. And I love reading the reactions of them losing their shit. It just makes my day

[xellos88330]

what's wrong with it, these mother fuckers here think they own a player hahaha. And I love reading the reactions of them losing their shit. It just makes my day

LOL!!! I know. Honestly, I think the Spurs will be better next season than they were this season. Last season we had no Kawhi. This season we have no Kawhi, but a DeRozan. Same as last year but better. I am also impressed with the performance of White in SL. He better get some run this year. I think he earned it. Murray apparently has been working on his jumper too. I expect him to be a threat from corner 3 at the least. Just this will improve the Spurs greatly even without DeRozan.

[housious]

Stephen Jackson used to hang out at Paradise. That's all you need to know about him.

[FkLA]

I don't care what Jax wants to say really. He does have a point though. Kawhi is his own person. Let him be it. If he wants to leave, then let him. He didn't like it here. People are who they are, and what exactly is so wrong about that? The reality is that the game is played by players. Sure they are payed by team owners etc. but the game is useless without them. Do I wish Kawhi would have behaved differently? Of course I do. He didn't, but is that really a reason to ostracize him? I don't think it is. I know that I wouldn't appreciate people coming down on me for leaving a situation that was toxic to me. It is what it is. Let's just move on. We already know the Spurs is a great organization. It is my hope that they will prove themselves to us this upcoming season. It is time for them to really show what they are made of. Can they keep up the winning culture without Kawhi? My guess is yes just based on what the Spurs accomplished without him this past season. I think the Spurs will be quite fine. The Spurs went far solely on the back of Aldridge, without the help of Leonard. So this upcoming season will be a joy to watch again without any drama. Aldridge and DeRozan should be interesting to watch. Last season the Spurs only had Aldridge. This year they have another all-star talent to lean on. Last year, we just had aging stars to complement him. I fully expect the Spurs to deliver winning basketball again.

Are you dumb? Of course he deserves to be ostracized. The situation wasn't toxic, he made it toxic. You're telling me everyone is free to fuck shit up at work, not honor contracts, not show up (and still get paid), not support coworkers, and after all that run the name of their employers through the mud and it's all good? Where can I find a job like that so I can sign up?

[TheGreatSantini]

Are you dumb? Of course he deserves to be ostracized. The situation wasn't toxic, he made it toxic. You're telling me everyone is free to fuck shit up at work, not honor contracts, not show up (and still get paid), not support coworkers, and after all that run the name of their employers through the mud and it's all good? Where can I find a job like that so I can sign up?


Burn.

[Arcadian]

Why didn't he just wait until his contract was up? It was only one more year, and his value would've been higher next year if he proves to be fully recovered from injury this season.

[SpurPadre]

He said: (paraphrasing): Kawhi should follow LeBron's lead and do whatever he wants because teams don't care about players, as they trade them, under pay them, etc, and in this case its okay to leave SA because the Spurs "haven't done shit" since TD retired, because Manu and Tony specifically aren't good enough. He is "Team Kawhi."

Thanks. I should've expected as much but was a liitle curious. He's so salty.

[james evans]

Csm

[Ice009]

Stephen Jackson used to hang out at Paradise. That's all you need to know about him.

What the fuck is Paradise?

[alpha_HaZE]

Stephen,

I get it, Kawhi wants to play elsewhere else and to me that's OK. Teams do it all the time, and it's good to see some players do it as well. But Kawhi should have at least played for the Spurs last year or let Pop shut him down for the season, he no reason not to, and also he did not had to make his trade demand public or throw the Spurs under the buss in the process, but he did. That sends a certain message, the Spurs were the team that believed in Kawhi and helped him become the player who he is today. They also gave him a champioship ring, something most NBA players never get.

Having said that, go eff yourself!

[r0drig0lac]

Are you dumb? Of course he deserves to be ostracized. The situation wasn't toxic, he made it toxic. You're telling me everyone is free to fuck shit up at work, not honor contracts, not show up (and still get paid), not support coworkers, and after all that run the name of their employers through the mud and it's all good? Where can I find a job like that so I can sign up?

[ceperez]

Isn't this the same Jackson that also decided to bail on the Spurs for greener pastures only to lead to a disaster of a career and no additional rings?

Isn't this the same Jackson who could have gotten at least one more ring if it were not for his habit?

[duncan2k5]

Stephen,

I get it, Kawhi wants to play elsewhere else and to me that's OK. Teams do it all the time, and it's good to see some players do it as well. But Kawhi should have at least played for the Spurs last year or let Pop shut him down for the season, he no reason not to, and also he did not had to make his trade demand public or throw the Spurs under the buss in the process, but he did. That sends a certain message, the Spurs were the team that believed in Kawhi and helped him become the player who he is today. They also gave him a champioship ring, something most NBA players never get.

Having said that, go eff yourself!

Kawhi never said anything... He didn't throw anyone under the bus... It was all media heads speculating... Even Mr Insider CC looked stupid by saying Kawhi wouldn't even go to Toronto, then barely 24 hours later Kawhi is in Toronto smiling and taking pics... These media heads don't know shit... They spitball and see what sticks...

[spursfaninla]

Kawhi never said anything... He didn't throw anyone under the bus... It was all media heads speculating... Even Mr Insider CC looked stupid by saying Kawhi wouldn't even go to Toronto, then barely 24 hours later Kawhi is in Toronto smiling and taking pics... These media heads don't know shit... They spitball and see what sticks...

How do you know if the statements made about wanting a trade or who he would play for came out of Kawhi's camp or not?

I think you are speculating yourself, you don't know what Kawhi's camp did not did not share with the media. Just because Kawhi went to Toronto does not mean his camp was not trying to control where he went with information fed to the media. Once he was sent, they are making the best of it.

[tmtcsc]

Jackson sounds like a bitter, ignorant fool. This team took a huge loss when Duncan retired but they managed to compete / contend. They made the playoffs last year while going through a ridiculous ordeal. I think they'll recover just fine and make the playoffs this year.

[alpha_HaZE]

Kawhi never said anything... He didn't throw anyone under the bus... It was all media heads speculating... Even Mr Insider CC looked stupid by saying Kawhi wouldn't even go to Toronto, then barely 24 hours later Kawhi is in Toronto smiling and taking pics... These media heads don't know shit... They spitball and see what sticks...

Speaking of Chris Carter, said Kawhi doesn't want to go to Toronto. We all know that's an empty threat. It would be career suicide if he were to do that. At rate, regarding your point about the media speculating, yes they did that but a lot of it turned out to be true. Kawhi does want to be traded, he told the team he would return many times, and last but not least he called the Spurs a controlling org and bunch of other things. These are facts.

[duncan2k5]

Speaking of Chris Carter, said Kawhi doesn't want to go to Toronto. We all know that's an empty threat. It would be career suicide if he were to do that. At rate, regarding your point about the media speculating, yes they did that but a lot of it turned out to be true. Kawhi does want to be traded, he told the team he would return many times, and last but not least he called the Spurs a controlling org and bunch of other things. These are facts.

Show me where it is a fact that he called the Spurs a controlling org... The only place I've seen that is media talking heads that sounded like speculation

[dbreiden83080]

Yeah, he is. He could have been part of a dynasty and held out for more money and ended up taking $100k less and went to Atlanta instead of waiting it out. He got paid eventually, as did Manu and Parker, except they won multiple rings are 1st ballot HoFers. Of course he's jealous, he has a major inferiority complex.

You know this never even really occurred to me but I think there is something to it. Jackson was a very good player but he left way too early. Manu basically took his job and went on to win more championships and will be in the Hall of Fame. So yeah probably jealousy.

[acoelho1]

Kawhi never said anything... He didn't throw anyone under the bus... It was all media heads speculating... Even Mr Insider CC looked stupid by saying Kawhi wouldn't even go to Toronto, then barely 24 hours later Kawhi is in Toronto smiling and taking pics... These media heads don't know shit... They spitball and see what sticks...

CC said that because that’s what Kawhi’s camp was feeding him. Their hope was it would scare off the Raptors from trading for him. Kawhi showing up in Toronto has no relevance to what they were feeding their minions in the media. Kawhi didn’t have a choice but to report given that fines and losing his right to free agency would have been the consequence.

[duncan2k5]

CC said that because that’s what Kawhi’s camp was feeding him. Their hope was it would scare off the Raptors from trading for him. Kawhi showing up in Toronto has no relevance to what they were feeding their minions in the media. Kawhi didn’t have a choice but to report given that fines and losing his right to free agency would have been the consequence.

No... The trade had already happened... And CC was on air implying Kawhi won't show... Less than 24 hours later Kawhi is in Toronto... These dudes don't know as much as u think they do...

[acoelho1]

No... The trade had already happened... And CC was on air implying Kawhi won't show... Less than 24 hours later Kawhi is in Toronto... These dudes don't know as much as u think they do...

What are you talking about. The trade had absolutely not happened yet. Their were reports that Toronto was in serious trade talks with the Spurs so of course Kawhi’s camp wanted no part of going to the Raptors so it was their last ditch effort to sabotage the trade. In fact, once the trade occurred CC completely changed course because there was never a possibility that Kawhi wouldn’t report. In addition, CC has ties to Kawhi’s team given that his agent represented him and reports of his brother working with them.

[acoelho1]

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[Spurtacular]

All I got out of that was "kawhi do what you want to do"

Deep.

Dat was your ex-wife's strategy, tbh.

And yea, it went deep. :lmao

[xellos88330]

Are you dumb? Of course he deserves to be ostracized. The situation wasn't toxic, he made it toxic. You're telling me everyone is free to fuck shit up at work, not honor contracts, not show up (and still get paid), not support coworkers, and after all that run the name of their employers through the mud and it's all good? Where can I find a job like that so I can sign up?

Does he work for the Spurs now?

[FkLA]

Does he work for the Spurs now?

What does that have to do with anything?

[xellos88330]

What does that have to do with anything?

It has everything to do with working for the Spurs or not. The Spurs got rid of a toxic person. End of story. The Spurs had a problem, and they got rid of it, the same way any company would get rid of a toxic person or someone who creates a toxic work environment. The Spurs simply did what they had to. Is Kawhi still playing basketball? Sure he is. If a person gets fired from McDonald's they can still work at Whataburger. You get what I am saying?

[JPB]

Also, SJax is spitting off here like players don't have the options to just NOT SIGN EXTENSIONS.

Every player in the league has always had the option to do what they want to do. If you don't want to be with a team long-term, don't sign a 5 year contract. If you don't want to be there anymore, finish your contract and become an UFA instead of signing an extension then trying to bitch your way out of it.

I'm tired of this narrative that these guys getting paid millions of dollar to do the job of basketball are being treated like they are slaves. If you don't want to be tied to a contract, then don't sign one and see how well you do fielding one-to-two year deals.

Or better. Go work 8 hours a day on a assembly line and then you'll get a taste of what a modern slave is. nobody forces you to do this job, man. If you disagree withe the ins and outs, get another job or build your own team and see i fyou don't trade anyone if you underachieve.

Their way of thinking is nonsensical. NBA is a competition, an association where owners decide to hire an FO making decisions and choices to try to improve their team. They maybe right or wrong but it's their job and if they fail, they'll be dumped too.

Which is also what guys like Demar do when they are recruiting players to join them. They don't bother if that mean other guys will be dumped or traded for that, they see their interest to try to improve the team.

If you don't want your team to dump you, hey guess what... don't get swept from the PO and win a ship, you won't have any problem. Ask Manu, Tony and Tim.

Other than that, stop bitching and posting cryptic, mystic, random "inspirational quotes" and acting like a diva because you'll get paid $20m to play somewhere else.

I understand they have families but then again, if that's your main concern get a job where you won't be subject to these imponderables, and no matter what you'll be away half of the year.

And If you're not happy and don't want that money, someone will take it for you, dont worry.

[alpha_HaZE]

Show me where it is a fact that he called the Spurs a controlling org... The only place I've seen that is media talking heads that sounded like speculation

That came from Chris Carter. But I will ask you this if the fact that Kawhi asked for a trade was not leaked by his camp, do you think it was the Spurs that leaked it? Let me remind you, It was reported by Jabari not Woj.

[Othyus Lalanne]

I understand the mentality, and if they want to get paid, great. But don't pull this "woe is me" bullshit and act like the victims if that's how you want to play the game.

SJax cited Lebron as some kind of shining example, but there is a big fucking difference from Lebron and Kawhi. Lebron actually finished his contracts, and left as a FA when it was his time to do so...just like any other player in the league has the option to do.
I would have 0 fuckinn interest in coach Lebron, manager lebron, GM Lebron, Diva Bron. Kawhi never did that. i would pick Kawhi in front of LeBron as a franchise cornerstone.

[james evans]

No... The trade had already happened... And CC was on air implying Kawhi won't show... Less than 24 hours later Kawhi is in Toronto... These dudes don't know as much as u think they do...
they actually know very little to nothing, but they need ratings so they create a lot of stories(lies) and call it investigative journalism. Chris Boussard keeps saying he has "sources" but he's mostly wrong. These people know nothing. I've never in my life seen a situation where so little is said and everyone on the outside knows so fucking much.

[SayTown]

Last week when the trade happened Chris Carter was on TV saying that in thirty minutes right after the show ended he was going to have a conference call with Kawhi and his group.

[rjv]

outside of woj does anyone really have a clue?