This gonna be LMA's team or Derozan's team?

[Spurtacular]

Demar gonna feed the ball to Muh Touches?

[SpursDynasty85]

Gotta say LMA is now but DeRozan is our future... until Murray or Walker can be an all star!

[playblair]

derozan..........cant suffer another boring year with lma being the leader.............

[BatManu20]

LMAlpha's. DeMar is a #2, not a #1. Not an alpha personality either, so no problem there.

[playblair]

\Not an alpha personality either, so no problem there.

derozan is a crip he & zach randolph r the most alpha players in the nba lma will defer to deebo

[4lifecowboy]

Murray will be taking more of a leadership role this year. He showed signs during the year last year, like shooing Pop away and keeping LMA focused on the court.

[HarlemHeat37]

Murray will be taking more of a leadership role this year. He showed signs during the year last year, like shooing Pop away and keeping LMA focused on the court.

That's nice that he's going to become more of a leader, but I'd rather he learn how to shoot and pass:lol

[JPB]

It's gonna be Demarcus Aldrige's team.

[Arcadian]

Both.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Dejounte will take over as the leader. I'm looking for a breakout year from him. :bobo

[4lifecowboy]

That's nice that he's going to become more of a leader, but I'd rather he learn how to shoot and pass:lol

Leadership got Avery Johnson's jersey hung in the rafter, sure wasn't his passing or shooting abilities I'm sure.

[Gordonicci]

Leadership got Avery Johnson's jersey hung in the rafter, sure wasn't his passing or shooting abilities I'm sure.
True but that was a different era, a different game. Modern PGs have to be able to punish defenses for sagging off or going under screens.

[Robz4000]

Pop's.

[SAGirl]

It will be interesting to see how they play. I don’t think LMA is going to lose a ton of touches. Pop said they were going to do it again but with more talent. I don’t expect them to change the system all that much, but DeRozan having the ball in a 2 man game with Aldridge is going to look better and have better results for the team.

[rascal]

Neither
They are players on the team.

[Play Boban]

That's nice that he's going to become more of a leader, but I'd rather he learn how to shoot and pass:lol

[SpursforSix]

That's nice that he's going to become more of a leader, but I'd rather he learn how to shoot and pass:lol

Yeah...between him and Mills, the two team leaders with lacking fundamentals.

[Immortal Spur]

I take this as you mean who’s gonna be first option, so in the traditional sense I feel LMA with seniority will get his number called more at first. But the simple solution is to put them in the pick and roll together and build a primary offense around that. Probably the only area where DeMar is better than Kawhi is his passing. He really grew in that area last year averaging 5+ assists a game, so hopefully we continue to expand his game around that.

I also think with his history in the playoffs being a second option would suit him best as he would have less pressure and can attack more comfortably. In Toronto the dude was on an island. Lowry choked harder imo and me being in a similar position competitively speaking, I can attest that when your counterpart is noticeably a sinking ship the pressure can feel insurmountable and completely overwhelming. It’s like a state of paralysis. Like plant that’s pumping all the resources into a dead limb causing the entire plant to suffer. With that being said, Manu even at 51 on this team is vital. His competitive spirit and overall clutch play could be the difference this year. Maybe not championship level but DeMar getting over his yips and helping him to believe. Season DeRozan in playoffs would make us really good.

[Namundy]

There's going to be some really rough growing pains. They operate in the same areas but if DeMar can stay active without the ball in his hands it can be a deadly combination.

[SpursDynasty85]

There's going to be some really rough growing pains. They operate in the same areas but if DeMar can stay active without the ball in his hands it can be a deadly combination.

DeRozan runs the pick n roll very well. Not the best fit but a pretty good one. The bad fit is Dejounte but if he can hit that corner 3, things will be just fine.

[DJR210]

but DeRozan is our future...

Damn, that's a bleak future :lol

[SpursDynasty85]

Damn, that's a bleak future :lol

Lol. Only if we need hero ball from him but the pick n roll game with LMA will be legit until White, Murray, and Walker can progress.

[DJR210]

Lol. Only if we need hero ball from him but the pick n roll game with LMA will be legit until White, Murray, and Walker can progress.

Bro he's 28. He should not be in the same sentence as future.

[Stabula]

Pop's, just like it has always been.

[kobyz]

Is LMA or DeRozan consider a top 20 player?

[MaNu4Tres]

Such a dumbass thread and question.

[sasaint]

Murray will be taking more of a leadership role this year. He showed signs during the year last year, like shooing Pop away and keeping LMA focused on the court.

Pop is enamored with Dijon because he talks the talk. But I wish he would give White a legit shot at PG; he might be more capable of walking the walk. Unfortunately, not gonna happen.

[SpursDynasty85]

Is LMA or DeRozan consider a top 20 player?

LMA for sure was last year. Arguably top 10. DeRozan is more arguable but last 2 seasons he makes a good case.

[daslicer]

If they can both be 20 point scorers and co-exist that would be great. It's what I'm hoping for.

[kaji157]

If they can both be 20 point scorers and co-exist that would be great. It's what I'm hoping for.

And if Gay can get his 15 consistently we are off a good start.

[SpursDynasty85]

And if Gay can get his 15 consistently we are off a good start.

How many pts will Dejounte average?

[kaji157]

How many pts will Dejounte average?

10-12 would be great

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Is LMA or DeRozan consider a top 20 player?

Top 10 tbh

Year-by-year list of All-NBA Teams:
2017-18

FIRST TEAM

F: LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
F: Kevin Durant, Golden State Warriors
C: Anthony Davis, New Orleans Pelicans
G: James Harden, Houston Rockets
G: Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers

SECOND TEAM

F: LaMarcus Aldridge, San Antonio Spurs
F: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks
C: Joel Embiid, Philadelphia 76ers
G: DeMar DeRozan, Toronto Raptors
G: Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder

[kaji157]

Top 10 tbh

Year-by-year list of All-NBA Teams:
2017-18

FIRST TEAM

F: LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
F: Kevin Durant, Golden State Warriors
C: Anthony Davis, New Orleans Pelicans
G: James Harden, Houston Rockets
G: Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers

SECOND TEAM

F: LaMarcus Aldridge, San Antonio Spurs
F: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks
C: Joel Embiid, Philadelphia 76ers
G: DeMar DeRozan, Toronto Raptors
G: Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder

At the very least i have to say that i consider Curry and Irving Top 10.

[SpursDynasty85]

Good chance it can be both their teams this year. DeRozan is a great player and can be a solid 1b to LMA's 1A.

[tonight...you]

This will be Pop's Team.
No question.


I can see him sticking around for 2-3 more years too.

[kobyz]

Top 10 tbh

Year-by-year list of All-NBA Teams:
2017-18

FIRST TEAM

F: LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
F: Kevin Durant, Golden State Warriors
C: Anthony Davis, New Orleans Pelicans
G: James Harden, Houston Rockets
G: Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers

SECOND TEAM

F: LaMarcus Aldridge, San Antonio Spurs
F: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks
C: Joel Embiid, Philadelphia 76ers
G: DeMar DeRozan, Toronto Raptors
G: Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder

what about Kyrie Irving, Gordon Hayward, Blake Griffin, Victor Oladipo, Kristaps Porzingis, Ben Simmons, Kyle Lowry, Kawhi Leonard, John Wall, Bradley Beal, Nikola Jokic, Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, DeMarcus Cousins, Chris Paul, Mike Conley, Jimmy Butler, Karl-Anthony Towns, Jrue Holiday, Paul George, CJ McCollum, Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert???
at least helf of them i'm ranking over LMA and DDR consider their mentality and fragile playoff abilit, both for sure not top 20 nba players!!! aybe #19 an #20 at best!

[SpursDynasty85]

what about Kyrie Irving, Gordon Hayward, Blake Griffin, Victor Oladipo, Kristaps Porzingis, Ben Simmons, Kyle Lowry, Kawhi Leonard, John Wall, Bradley Beal, Nikola Jokic, Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, DeMarcus Cousins, Chris Paul, Mike Conley, Jimmy Butler, Karl-Anthony Towns, Jrue Holiday, Paul George, CJ McCollum, Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert???
at least helf of them i'm ranking over LMA and DDR consider their mentality and fragile playoff abilit, both for sure not top 20 nba players!!! aybe #19 an #20 at best!

Because the other guys are mentally tough and are proven playoff winners? Lol you are seeing things in a bubble and just hating. DeRozan and Aldridge have been all NBA and are always in the playoffs for a reason. They have special abilities that you decide to flare over because they don't fit the mold you see a super star in. Special look y Aldridge. For a 6' 11" and his playoff performances and skills you should not put him below 15 in any ranking this year.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

what about Kyrie Irving, Gordon Hayward, Blake Griffin, Victor Oladipo, Kristaps Porzingis, Ben Simmons, Kyle Lowry, Kawhi Leonard, John Wall, Bradley Beal, Nikola Jokic, Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, DeMarcus Cousins, Chris Paul, Mike Conley, Jimmy Butler, Karl-Anthony Towns, Jrue Holiday, Paul George, CJ McCollum, Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert???
at least helf of them i'm ranking over LMA and DDR consider their mentality and fragile playoff abilit, both for sure not top 20 nba players!!! aybe #19 an #20 at best!

;tldr


you axed if either was considered a top 20 player and the answer according to one official metric, last year’s all-nba team, is yes

[james evans]

By all star break Aldridge will be unhappy.

[kobyz]

;tldr


you axed if either was considered a top 20 player and the answer according to one official metric, last year’s all-nba team, is yes

I meant should they be consider, and by all things count...

[kobyz]

Because the other guys are mentally tough and are proven playoff winners? Lol you are seeing things in a bubble and just hating. DeRozan and Aldridge have been all NBA and are always in the playoffs for a reason. They have special abilities that you decide to flare over because they don't fit the mold you see a super star in. Special look y Aldridge. For a 6' 11" and his playoff performances and skills you should not put him below 15 in any ranking this year.

But knowing what I know about LMA as competitor and even if he had one great regular season I prefer to put my money on some other guys if I can.

[YGWHI]

By all star break Aldridge will be unhappy.

We all know that.

But if LMA's unhappy that means that DeMar is playing the best basketball of his career and feeling comfortable in SA.

Last time that LMA was so unhappy, the Spurs made WCF.

unhappy LMA=Spurs' success

[NameLess Scrub]

Top 10 tbh

Year-by-year list of All-NBA Teams:
2017-18

FIRST TEAM

F: LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
F: Kevin Durant, Golden State Warriors
C: Anthony Davis, New Orleans Pelicans
G: James Harden, Houston Rockets
G: Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers

SECOND TEAM

F: LaMarcus Aldridge, San Antonio Spurs
F: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks
C: Joel Embiid, Philadelphia 76ers
G: DeMar DeRozan, Toronto Raptors
G: Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder

Top 10 at their respective positions.

[NameLess Scrub]

They'll have a contest in which the one who chucks more mid range fadeaways per minute wins.

[TimmyBuckets]

imho LMA was the best big man in the league last year. He had no stars, dragged his team to the playoffs, and outperformed many of the top bigs, including Gobert and Davis. LMA performed like a superstar last year. DDR is a top 15/20 player, which is still very good, especially with the right coach and system.

[SpursDynasty85]

We all know that.

But if LMA's unhappy that means that DeMar is playing the best basketball of his career and feeling comfortable in SA.

Last time that LMA was so unhappy, the Spurs made WCF.

unhappy LMA=Spurs' success

I think LMA was unhappy because he was needing at least one more extension or contract. He got it and ended up having one of his best years not because of stats but because he hustled, played D, and winning seemed to be the most important thing. I fully expect Pop incorporate both well in a fast pick and roll game with lots of movement. Both will be happy as long as we are solidly in the playoff standings I think.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Top 10 at their respective positions.

Top 4 at their respective positions tbh

[r0drig0lac]

Top 3 at their respective positions.

.

[DMC]

It's always been Pop's team. Who else could sit Tim Duncan in the final minutes of a Finals closeout game on the road?

[Spurtacular]

It's always been Pop's team. Who else could sit Tim Duncan in the final minutes of a Finals closeout game on the road?

Sat him twice, too.

[JakeCuenca]

Does it matter?

Both are legit Superstars.

These guys are proven playoff winners. Based on their personality, I'm confident they don't care. They gonna play to win.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

DeChozan One. Best scorer we’ve had since this decade.

[NameLess Scrub]

Does it matter?

Both are legit Superstars.

These guys are proven playoff winners. Based on their personality, I'm confident they don't care. They gonna play to win.

:lol :lol

[NameLess Scrub]

Top 4 at their respective positions tbh


.

I was being conservative, but yeah. I mean, if they're 2nd team all NBA, they could be considered top 2 for last season.

[kobyz]

what about Kyrie Irving, Gordon Hayward, Blake Griffin, Victor Oladipo, Kristaps Porzingis, Ben Simmons, Kyle Lowry, Kawhi Leonard, John Wall, Bradley Beal, Nikola Jokic, Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, DeMarcus Cousins, Chris Paul, Mike Conley, Jimmy Butler, Karl-Anthony Towns, Jrue Holiday, Paul George, CJ McCollum, Donovan Mitchell, Rudy Gobert???
at least helf of them i'm ranking over LMA and DDR consider their mentality and fragile playoff abilit, both for sure not top 20 nba players!!! aybe #19 an #20 at best!

I guess i was right and we don't have a top 20 player, two legitimate ranking:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1746725
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/09/10/top-100-nba-players-2019-lebron-james-stephen-curry-dirk-nowitzki