I’m on the Bryn Forbes bandwagon

[picnroll]

I’m on the Bryn Forbes bandwagon. Why?

1. Not crowded. There’s a lot of room on the bandwagon to stretch out in.
2. Spurs resigned him. There’s got to be a reason why.
3. The more Forbes plays the less Mills does. Forbes may not be a great defender but next to Mills he’s a defensive MVP and he’s no more capable of clanging critical shot’s than Mills.

This is Forbes year to shine. You heard it hear first.

[BD24]

Kill yourself. Forbes is horrible and is going to take minutes from young guys that need to progress.

he is pops new son

[picnroll]

Kill yourself. Forbes is horrible and is going to take minutes from young guys that need to progress.

he is pops new son
Noted. Don’t come crawling back when Forbes breaks out.

[objective]

Forbes won't take time away from Mills, he'll take time away from White

[r0drig0lac]

good for you

[RD2191]

Terrible take. Deserves a permaban.

[picnroll]

Forbes won't take time away from Mills, he'll take time away from White

Mills and Forbes have similar games to me. White fills a different role, much more versatile in the Manu mold although obviously not as good and never will be. Forbes has a good shot, quick release, just needs to settle down, gain confidence in game situations. Doesn’t give up as much as Mills on the defensive end. Just my take.

[dabom]

OP with the fucking bads you attention whore pussy. :lmao

[ducks]

Him being back could mean mills will be trade bait
I am on

[Keepin' it real]

This is Forbes year to shine. You heard it hear first.

Nope, I already heard that somewhere else. Sorry.

[Dverde]

Gary Neal v2.0. I hope he has a bounce back year.

[dabom]

Gary Neal v2.0. I hope he has a bounce back year.

Gary Neal could actually score bro. :lol

[Dverde]

Gary Neal could actually score bro. :lol

A bounce back year equals = Gary Neal 2.0. He can actually play a little defense unlike Neal.

[pad300]

We can hope, but I am hoping for both Mills and Bryn to be gone. I am sick of 1 skill (shooting) small guards...

[Namundy]

Honestly at this point it feels like we are just throwing as many shooters as we can up against a wall and seeing what sticks. Rooting for Bryn but I believe he's got some mental hurdles to overcome and needs a strong shot of confidence. Oh yeah and make your goddamn free throws.

[cd021]

Forbes may be my least favorite Spur in almost fifteen years of being a fan, he just pisses me off.

[DPG21920]

Forbes may be my least favorite Spur in almost fifteen years of being a fan, he just pisses me off.

I don’t mind him - he works hard but he’s put in bad spots by Pop IMO. I just don’t like how he seems mentally weak; every time he does something wrong it’s an obvious pout from him. I’m glad he cares, but dude needs to relax.

[cd021]

Him being back could mean mills will be trade bait
I am on

ST has been through this, Forbes isn't a Mills replacement because he isn't nearly as good.

PATFO had Fobes replacement on roster in White; then signed Beli, then ,inexplicably, brought Forbes back

[dabom]

A bounce back year equals = Gary Neal 2.0. He can actually play a little defense unlike Neal.

Gary Neal can carry an offense at times. And Forbes ain't guarding shit in the Playoffs. :lol

forby will never be 1/5th the player neal was.

[picnroll]

Forbes may be my least favorite Spur in almost fifteen years of being a fan, he just pisses me off.

Yeah, he’s clearly a trouble maker with a bad attitude and a slacker who doesn’t work hard.

[ceperez]

I’m on the Bryn Forbes bandwagon. Why?

1. Not crowded. There’s a lot of room on the bandwagon to stretch out in.
2. Spurs resigned him. There’s got to be a reason why.
3. The more Forbes plays the less Mills does. Forbes may not be a great defender but next to Mills he’s a defensive MVP and he’s no more capable of clanging critical shot’s than Mills.

This is Forbes year to shine. You heard it hear first.

Good to be hopeful about players in Spurs roster!

[cd021]

I don’t mind him - he works hard but he’s put in bad spots by Pop IMO. I just don’t like how he seems mentally weak; every time he does something wrong it’s an obvious pout from him. I’m glad he cares, but dude needs to relax.

Undersized two-guard, very streaky shooter, who can't defend- it feels like the Spurs have to have a player like him on roster. Bringing him back for two years, $ 5 million is cheap enough for a player PATFO likes but White and Beli are both better than him and play similar roles, I don't get the move from a roster building stand point.

[DPG21920]

Undersized two-guard, very streaky shooter, who can't defend- it feels like the Spurs have to have a player like him on roster. Bringing him back for two years, $ 5 million is cheap enough for a player PATFO likes but White and Beli are both better than him and play similar roles, I don't get the move from a roster building stand point.

I agree 100% on that angle. The Spurs have made some absoultely puzzling decisions especially if they knew about TOR being a trade partner and having to give up Danny/Kawhi for DeRozan. Getting OG would have solved a ton of problems.

[dabom]

I agree 100% on that angle. The Spurs have made some absoultely puzzling decisions especially if they knew about TOR being a trade partner and having to give up Danny/Kawhi for DeRozan. Getting OG would have solved a ton of problems.

Bigs cost more, They probably saved money getting this dude.

[Drom John]

2017-2018 Plus Minus Defense Rating

-2.13 Bryn Forbes
-2.15 Patty Mills

[r0drig0lac]

Undersized two-guard, very streaky shooter, who can't defend- it feels like the Spurs have to have a player like him on roster. Bringing him back for two years, $ 5 million is cheap enough for a player PATFO likes but White and Beli are both better than him and play similar roles, I don't get the move from a roster building stand point.

to be a positive on the court, forbes would probably have to shoot around 42% (3pt), unfortunately his size makes him a negative regardless of how much he works

[BSfromTX]

In a season like this one coming up, there should be no reason to play Forbes ahead of white or walker

[Dverde]

Gary Neal couldn’t guard anyone. He would try to get charges instead of playing defense. He is also the guy who lost track of a guy missing a shoe during a Finals game. I don’t know how I got put on the defend Forbes team. I remember him missing a lot of makeable shots. I’m hoping he has better luck this year with his shot.

[cd021]

Gary Neal couldn’t guard anyone. He would try to get charges instead of playing defense. He is also the guy who lost track of a guy missing a shoe during a Finals game. I don’t know how I got put on the defend Forbes team. I remember him missing a lot of makeable shots. I’m hoping he has better luck this year with his shot.


I forgot about that :depressed

Forbes does have a tendency to miss a bunch of open 3's, somehow he shot 39% on them, he also seems to beat him self up which can compound the problem. Neal was far from perfect but at least his confidence level never seemed to wane when his shot wasn't going in.

[koriwhat]

i'm not sold on forbes but then again i wasn't able to catch the full season last yr like seasons that came before. my sample size is small with forbes so maybe watching more games this season will show what some of yall see in the young buck.

[BD24]

Whats with all of these fucking retards thinking Forbes can play "some" defense. Forbes is fucking horrendous on defense.

Do you guys actually watch the games?

[SpursDynasty85]

Forbes won't take time away from Mills, he'll take time away from White

Maybe, maybe not. Mills is our sg and part time back up pg. Hopefully White takes on the back up pg role. Forbes will likely be 3rd string sg behind Belli.

Should Manu retire, Belli may play more 3 so Forbes will play some consistent minutes at sg for sure at that point. If many comes back I assume he our backup SF.

[SpursDynasty85]

Maybe, maybe not. Mills is our sg and part time back up pg. Hopefully White takes on the back up pg role. Forbes will likely be 3rd string sg behind Belli.

Should Manu retire, Belli may play more 3 so Forbes will play some consistent minutes at sg for sure at that point. If many comes back I assume he our backup SF.

And yes. Walker is more than likely G league this year. He is only 19. He needs more grooming to be playoff ready.

[jjktkk]

The old saying, "you can never have too many shooters", doesn't apply to this current Spur's squad.

[superbigtime]

He stinks. Period.

[DPG21920]

My only issues with Forbes/Bertans:

SA already has a logjam at guard and brought in more shooting with Beli, so why the need for Forbes? Beyond that, especially in Bertans case, what did he show that warranted sizeable increase in average annual salary, but a 2nd year guarantee?

[SpursDynasty85]

My only issues with Forbes/Bertans:

SA already has a logjam at guard and brought in more shooting with Beli, so why the need for Forbes? Beyond that, especially in Bertans case, what did he show that warranted sizeable increase in average annual salary, but a 2nd year guarantee?

Money wise it is pretty small. They want the kid around at minimal money. He could be a Spur for life. Nobody knows how long Belli, Manu, and Mills will be here. I can see Mills and Belli as trade bait. DJ could sign elsewhere in two years too. Ya never know.

[DPG21920]

Money wise it is pretty small. They want the kid around at minimal money. He could be a Spur for life. Nobody knows how long Belli, Manu, and Mills will be here. I can see Mills and Belli as trade bait. DJ could sign elsewhere in two years too. Ya never know.

Money is not the real issue with forbes although it should have been a team option. Forbes is just in a crowded backcourt and if they make moves to solve that problem then ok. But as of now they have not.

Bertans got a huge raise and I have no idea what he showed to deserve that even if I like him well enough. I get that it was money SA could not spend on other players but I don’t think if you let Forbes/Bertans go and added vet min players that SA would be worse off in the win-loss column.

[SpursDynasty85]

Money is not the real issue with forbes although it should have been a team option. Forbes is just in a crowded backcourt and if they make moves to solve that problem then ok. But as of now they have not.

Bertans got a huge raise and I have no idea what he showed to deserve that even if I like him well enough. I get that it was money SA could not spend on other players but I don’t think if you let Forbes/Bertans go and added vet min players that SA would be worse off in the win-loss column.

We were crowded in a lot of areas last year too but it's not necessarily a bad problem to have, unless you dont know if your star player is coming back or not.

Bertans has value and many teams I am sure were interested. Bertans never got consistent minutes. It's his first semi significant contract which means you will see him play more and his true value will show.

Backcourt is crowded but DJ is still too raw, White is injury prone, Walker is not close to being ready, Manu is creaky old. It's not bad to have some corporate knowledge and depth for now. I foresee one transition year next year and then a much more balanced roster next year. Kawhi and Danny leaving in that manner probably took everybody off guard. Spurs should still win at least 52 games.

[SAGirl]

Makes sense I guess.

[DAF86]

I’m on the Bryn Forbes bandwagon. Why?

1. Not crowded. There’s a lot of room on the bandwagon to stretch out in.
2. Spurs resigned him. There’s got to be a reason why.
3. The more Forbes plays the less Mills does. Forbes may not be a great defender but next to Mills he’s a defensive MVP and he’s no more capable of clanging critical shot’s than Mills.

This is Forbes year to shine. You heard it hear first.

Mills and Gasol were designed too, there was a reason for that too?

[mexicanjunior]

Forbes is garbage, just like the rest of this roster...

[DPG21920]

I”m not a fan of paying limited players like Bertans where they HAVE to show marked improvement to even remotely justify their deals. That’s not good business. It’s possible he blows that contract out of the water, but I still don’t think he showed enough to earn that now.

[SAGirl]

2017-2018 Plus Minus Defense Rating

-2.13 Bryn Forbes
-2.15 Patty Mills
Wipityyyyyyy

[Stabula]

I'm all in on Bryn Forbes. Dude is going to ball out this year, book it.

[sasaint]

Wipityyyyyyy

A little like apples and oranges, though. Seems like Bryn guarded SFs more than Patty, but Patty guarded PGs more than Bryn.

[sasaint]

I’m on the Bryn Forbes bandwagon. Why?

1. Not crowded. There’s a lot of room on the bandwagon to stretch out in.
2. Spurs resigned him. There’s got to be a reason why.
3. The more Forbes plays the less Mills does. Forbes may not be a great defender but next to Mills he’s a defensive MVP and he’s no more capable of clanging critical shot’s than Mills.

This is Forbes year to shine. You heard it hear first.

Not expecting him to shine, but I certainly hope he does. I wouldn't say I am stretching out on his band wagon, but I will be rooting for him to exceed everybody's expectations.

[picnroll]

A little like apples and oranges, though. Seems like Bryn guarded SFs more than Patty, but Patty guarded PGs more than Bryn.

Forbes is bigger, stronger and willing to fight harder on D than Mills.

[SAGirl]

A little like apples and oranges, though. Seems like Bryn guarded SFs more than Patty, but Patty guarded PGs more than Bryn.
Patty played more significant minutes against starters, but it’s a silly point to bring up. Neither is going to be a + defender ever, the question is why have 2 of them.

Fwiw, I think Forbes made a ton more mistakes fouling 3 pt shooters etc. And really stupid defensive mistakes. Got lost a ton. But it was his first season playing real minutes abd he played more than he should have. Wishing him a good season at this point.

[mo7888]

Patty played more significant minutes against starters, but it’s a silly point to bring up. Neither is going to be a + defender ever, the question is why have 2 of them.

That's the only thing that makes sense, there has to be a trade on the horizon. Package Pau and Mills for somebody then sign a big to replace Pau (Oakafor maybe).

[FkLA]

I like Forbes. Pair him with one of DJ, Manu, and White at all times. Let them guard 2s and let Forbes guard 1s (if it's a smaller 2 it doesn't matter) and I guarantee his defensive metrics will improve drastically. He is a good defender, imho.

All the wrath should be directed at Belli. He has no business being on the team.

[objective]

While Forbes looks strong with big arms for his slender frame, I don't remember any strength plays.

I no longer have any games to review, but I don't offhand remember him overpowering anyone with those arms. All show and no go, maybe? I don't remember any tough rebounds, or blowing up screens, chucking defenders off him getting free. Defending post players on switches like Marcus Smart or Tony Allen or Chris Paul.

Maybe he did and I don't remember.

Did he do some great job on Durant or Klay that I erased from my memory with the rest of the first round?

[MannyIsGod]

For the past two years, I kept expecting this guy to breakout because he does have excellent form and looks to be a great shooter. But it also seems like he's so damn nervous that it really wrecks his game. I feel that's all that holds him back.

Look, he's on the Spurs, and if he can somehow put it all together, he has the tools. I'm not going to sit here and claim to think its going to happen because I don't. But he's a Spur, and I hope he does. I'll be rooting for him to succeed for sure.

[sasaint]

That's the only thing that makes sense, there has to be a trade on the horizon. Package Pau and Mills for somebody then sign a big to replace Pau (Oakafor maybe).

In this season of major turnover, Patty ain't going anywhere. In truth, there isn't really a way to package two bad contracts in any season.

[mo7888]

In this season of major turnover, Patty ain't going anywhere. In truth, there isn't really a way to package two bad contracts in any season.

I dont think most teams consider mills a bad contract. As for packaging them it would have to be a 3 team trade where one went to sacramento and Sacramento would receive compensation for taking the contract.

[sasaint]

Forbes is bigger, stronger and willing to fight harder on D than Mills.

Granted - Bryn is somewhat bigger and stronger. But as SAGirl observed, he gets lost too often and he commits silly fouls - especially against 3-point shooters. Hopefully he improves on those mental aspects this season, because he does seem like a willing worker on defense. But I think Patty is plenty willing to fight. I don't fault him for his defensive effort. He is just such a flyweight that "fighting" avails him of very little. He gets murdered on screens, but he tries to fight through them imho.

[sasaint]

I dont think most teams consider mills a bad contract. As for packaging them it would have to be a 3 team trade where one went to sacramento and Sacramento would receive compensation for taking the contract.

That's something you can tinker with on the trade machine. Patty ain't going anywhere - especially this season.

[TimDunkem]

Whats with all of these fucking retards thinking Forbes can play "some" defense. Forbes is fucking horrendous on defense.

Do you guys actually watch the games?

Either they don't watch them, or they have a hard on for Charity Case and are compelled to defend him because it's pretty clear he can't defend anyone.

He sucks. Period.

[Slippy]

I forgot about that :depressed

Forbes does have a tendency to miss a bunch of open 3's, somehow he shot 39% on them, he also seems to beat him self up which can compound the problem. Neal was far from perfect but at least his confidence level never seemed to wane when his shot wasn't going in.

The playoffs he was worse. Atleast you know with Patty he going to hit them when it matters.


Perplexing why he was re-signed. For me that's a valuable roster spot wasted. maybe someone in the know can confirm but wasn't Bryn & RC connected somehow. Obligation signing perhaps?

[SpurPadre]

He's a black, shorter Bonner. Fuck him.

[kobyz]

Mills/Forbes backcourt could be spurs answer to the splash brothers...

[DJR210]

Forbes won't take time away from Mills, he'll take time away from White

Yup

[DJR210]

Mills/Forbes backcourt could be spurs answer to the splash brothers...

:lol

[BackHome]

Only reason to sign him is if you plan on using him in some type of trade in the future. I’ll e happy as hell when Forbes and Gasol leave or traded. Bring over Nikola and sign Livio or Metu or Hanga.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

whatever sign me up

FFFL

Forbes Fan For Life

[ElNono]

You know what, Forbes might suck at everything, but at least he's not afraid to take the shot. That's half the battle right there for a shooter.

Just like I'm not going to ask Patty and Marco to defend, I will be asking these guys to score the damn ball when they get an open look.

[r0drig0lac]

Either they don't watch them, or they have a hard on for Charity Case and are compelled to defend him because it's pretty clear he can't defend anyone.

He sucks. Period.

this

[ceperez]

You know what, Forbes might suck at everything, but at least he's not afraid to take the shot. That's half the battle right there for a shooter.

Just like I'm not going to ask Patty and Marco to defend, I will be asking these guys to score the damn ball when they get an open look.

Yup. Spurs will have to change their game and play like Houston. Keep chucking and play the percentages!

[Fireball]

Tyrion supporter here ... cannot hurt to back another midget

[vander]

Yup. Spurs will have to change their game and play like Houston. Keep chucking and play the percentages!

Derozen can actually drive to the basket, and kick out (hopefully), so Forbes, Bertans and the rest should get better looks than last year, and shoot more often, which should lead to better 3Pt%. I expect Forbes and Bertans to be above 40%

[duncan2k5]

Gary Neal v2.0. I hope he has a bounce back year.

Bounce back? When was he ever there?

[RD2191]

Bounce back? When was he ever there?

:lol tbh

[K...]

Bounce back? When was he ever there?
Summer league, duh.

[Phenomanul]

Forbes may be my least favorite Spur in almost fifteen years of being a fan, he just pisses me off.

This... his very demeanor on the court is utterly deflating. His boneheaded decision-making is the norm, not the exception. Perhaps it was his off-court issues that messed with his play, but everytime he stepped on the court - he was prone to doing something dumb.

[Dex]

5To488OjzD8

[dbestpro]

Forbes is an attitude adjustment away from being a taller version of Lloyd (World) B. Free. He couldn't play defense either.

[picnroll]

Bump.

On the Forbes train.

[TimDunkem]

Mills/Forbes backcourt could be spurs answer to the splash brothers...

:lmao Still hilarious.

If they're our answer, then that's the equivalent of your college professor asking for the solution to some complex equation only for someone to answer with a fart.

[playbonner15]

Mills/Forbes backcourt could be spurs answer to the splash brothers...
Wuut :LMAO

[ceperez]

5To488OjzD8

I'm sold... could have a breakout season!

I like players who keep improving every season. Sure, Forbes doesn't have a 6'10" wingspan or can't jump out of the gym, but he can definitely shoot. Give him the ball at the right spots and he's money.

[picnroll]

Bump again.

[RC_Drunkford]

I'm sold... could have a breakout season!

I like players who keep improving every season. Sure, Forbes doesn't have a 6'10" wingspan or can't jump out of the gym, but he can definitely shoot. Give him the ball at the right spots and he's money.

on point

[timvp]

picnroll wit dem goods :tu