Republicans are seen as the party of corruption.

[RandomGuy]

https://cdn.americanprogress.org/content/uploads/sites/2/2018/07/09124028/CAP-Battleground-Poll-Memo-070918.pdf

..by independents in an 8 point margin. FWIW.

[spurraider21]

lol gba strategies

http://www.gbastrategies.com/clients/
http://www.gbastrategies.com/winning-tough-primaries/
http://www.gbastrategies.com/winning-state-legislative-caucus-campaigns/

left leaning group comes up with analysis that the right is bad

:lol people on their team who don't have photos yet just have a donkey avatar http://www.gbastrategies.com/team/

[SnakeBoy]

In the 48-district battleground of Republican-held seats, Democrats lead Republicans by 4 points on the generic congressional ballot, 46 – 42 percent.

Not good news considering the generic ballot historically over estimates Dem support by at least 6-8 points, last 2 midterms it was off by double digits.

[leemajors]

they are both corrupt.

[spurraider21]

Cliffs: Trumps a poopyhead and I hate em

[RandomGuy]

they are both corrupt.

but equally?

[leemajors]

but equally?

The DNC shit still stinks, and I have no faith they will fix it.

[RandomGuy]

The DNC shit still stinks, and I have no faith they will fix it.

I think some change is coming up from the grassroots. Democratic fundraising success seems to hinge on NOT taking PAC money. That is a hopeful sign.

Dunno. BETO 2018 seems to be doing well, and polling within single digits of Cruz, who will still likely win, but not by as wide a margin as he would like.

[leemajors]

I think some change is coming up from the grassroots. Democratic fundraising success seems to hinge on NOT taking PAC money. That is a hopeful sign.

Dunno. BETO 2018 seems to be doing well, and polling within single digits of Cruz, who will still likely win, but not by as wide a margin as he would like.

Well, they could have attempted to fix it themselves. Instead they doubled down.

[Monostradamus]

but equally?
Saying “I’m covered in less dog shit than you are!” isn’t exactly a winning argument.

[Spurminator]

The whole not-taking-PAC-money thing is a very expensive PR slogan and I'm not sure it's worth it in the long run.

[boutons_deux]

The DNC shit still stinks, and I have no faith they will fix it.

The entire political / judicial class is corrupt, for sale, and the oligarchy is the dominant purchaser.

It's so pervasive that it's beyond remediation, is irreversible, unstoppable

... Is why America is fucked and unfuckable

[TeyshaBlue]

https://cdn.americanprogress.org/content/uploads/sites/2/2018/07/09124028/CAP-Battleground-Poll-Memo-070918.pdf

..by independents in an 8 point margin. FWIW.

Just stop. Jeebus.

[TeyshaBlue]

but equally?

Forcefield!

[RandomGuy]

Forcefield!

Why this?

I am merely pointing out that assuming both parties are equal in anything requires some evidence and reasoning to support. I happen to think they are not equal, given what I have seen.

[RandomGuy]

Saying “I’m covered in less dog shit than you are!” isn’t exactly a winning argument.

It is, if the argument is over who is covered in more dogshit.

I take a great deal of issue with people who can't be bothered to actually figure out if the parties are, in fact, equal, but do the lazy heuristic of assuming they are.

I will never pretend that the Democrats do not have corruption or even bad policies. They do.

But are they equally as bad as the Republicans? Not by a long shot.

How would you determine which is better overall, by whatever metric you want to pick?

[SnakeBoy]

How would you determine which is better overall, by whatever metric you want to pick?

I choose the corrupt party that promises to do the least to me.

[hater]

Reps didnt cheat in the primaries tbqh

[TeyshaBlue]

Why this?

I am merely pointing out that assuming both parties are equal in anything requires some evidence and reasoning to support. I happen to think they are not equal, given what I have seen.

The false equivalence forcefield seeks to negate the impact of actions. It's also very 3rd grade "But he did it first/ more!"

[TeyshaBlue]

You posted an asinine OP. Own it.

[RandomGuy]

The false equivalence forcefield seeks to negate the impact of actions. It's also very 3rd grade "But he did it first/ more!"

??

Does it really? How exactly, because I am really not seeing your point here. (confused)

[TeyshaBlue]

Really? You posted a poor O P which was immediately rejected out to half-court. A counter argument was inserted and your response was equally. What's the purpose of this response if not to deflect the counter?
Pretty simple to see imo.

[RandomGuy]

Really? You posted a poor O P which was immediately rejected out to half-court. A counter argument was inserted and your response was equally. What's the purpose of this response if not to deflect the counter?
Pretty simple to see imo.

It is pretty simple, unless, of course, you are uncomfortable with the conclusion, and want to tap dance about the subject.

I posted a brief sniglet of data that I thought was interesting, i.e. that perception among independents was growing more negative towards the GOP, and have merely responded to what I have seen presented here, following the flow of the discussion.

About the only real response I have gotten is the lazy stuff I have come to expect, but hey, I'll roll with that, since it is what I am given here. As for "getting rejected", that is your wishful, information bubble talking, sorry.

[ducks]

both parties have corruption in it
both have big spenders to help their party

[RandomGuy]

both parties have corruption in it
both have big spenders to help their party

Indeed they do.

Respectfully:
This is something of a trivial, meaningless statement. Better points can be made.

[TeyshaBlue]

It is pretty simple, unless, of course, you are uncomfortable with the conclusion, and want to tap dance about the subject.

I posted a brief sniglet of data that I thought was interesting, i.e. that perception among independents was growing more negative towards the GOP, and have merely responded to what I have seen presented here, following the flow of the discussion.

About the only real response I have gotten is the lazy stuff I have come to expect, but hey, I'll roll with that, since it is what I am given here. As for "getting rejected", that is your wishful, information bubble talking, sorry.

So it was deflection. Ok.

[TeyshaBlue]

Omfg. It was an online poll/survey.

[TeyshaBlue]

The data, such that it is, is worthless from a self selecting sample. It can't be extrapolated in any meaningful way.
/lazy.:rolleyes

[RandomGuy]

So it was deflection. Ok.

It wasn't deflection. You're the deflection. :lol

Still not seeing how responding to someone's point is "deflection". Feel free to spell that out.

[RandomGuy]

Omfg. It was an online poll/survey.

Read a bit closer. It's not what you seem to think it is.

[TeyshaBlue]

It wasn't deflection. You're the deflection. :lol

Still not seeing how responding to someone's point is "deflection". Feel free to spell that out.
Shut up RandonDucks! :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

They chose not to disclose their methodology in addition to the MOE. So it remains an unvetted survey that says stuff

Ok.

[SnakeBoy]

They chose not to disclose their methodology in addition to the MOE. So it remains an unvetted survey that says stuff

Ok.

http://www.democracycorps.com/Battleground-Surveys/new-message-platform-for-2018s-key-battlegrounds-report-from-phone-survey-a-web-panel-in-the-12-state-battleground/

[Chris]

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