View Full Version : Muller unveils insurmountable evidence on Manafort trial:his collection of jackets
hater
08-02-2018, 10:33 AM
:lmao year and a half collusion investigation.
Thousands of agents working 24/7 :lol
Millions of taxpayers dollars spent
And Muller team’s evidence on Manafort trial: his collection of expensive yet horrible clothing :lmao
Apparently when they raided Manaforts house most time was spent taking pictures of his closet :lmao
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hater
08-02-2018, 10:47 AM
CNNs analysts spending much time discussing Manaforts fashion sense :lmao :lmao
This isn't how it's done in Venezuela right Hater? Usually you dont even get a court date let along a trial. :lol
This is at least a 2 weeks trial.
clambake
08-02-2018, 03:01 PM
paid for all his clothes using wire transfers.
from where?
cheguevara
08-02-2018, 03:37 PM
Mueller used a drone to take pictures of his fountain as well. And presented it to the jury just now. lol
hater
08-02-2018, 03:39 PM
Mueller used a drone to take pictures of his fountain as well. And presented it to the jury just now. lol
:lmao they just had his gardener on as key witness :lmao :lol
hater
08-02-2018, 03:44 PM
:lmao
Fox: Colorful Manafort judge warns Mueller team case could tank without key witness
Judge Ellis repeated that he will not allow the prosecution “to gild the lily.”
“It could become relevant if there was a dispute of what the money was spent for,” Ellis said, suggesting there is no dispute at this time.
Manafort’s bookkeeper, Heather Washkuhn, also testified Thursday that she had no knowledge that Manafort had any foreign holdings.
But the Mueller team was rebuffed by Ellis on Wednesday when it first tried to introduce photos of Manafort’s closets, filled with suits and other high-end articles of clothing. Ellis noted that those photos would eventually become fodder for the media, and called them "unnecessary" for jurors to see.
“Enough is enough. We don’t convict people because they have a lot of money and throw it around,” he said.
Spurtacular
08-02-2018, 04:26 PM
This isn't how it's done in Venezuela right Hater? Usually you dont even get a court date let along a trial. :lol
This is at least a 2 weeks trial.
So, your counter is at least he got a phony trial?
:lol Today's tranny
So, your counter is at least he got a phony trial?
:lol Today's tranny
No, derp. Learn how to read.
Winehole23
08-02-2018, 04:50 PM
TyWVaZsUQjc
boutons_deux
08-06-2018, 02:46 PM
Manafort's defense team attempts mission impossible
His legal team is mounting a case to exonerate him in Virginia — an uphill battle, experienced attorneys say.
Argument 1: It's all Rick's fault
Argument 2: Manafort was too busy to cheat the tax man
Argument 3: Manafort came clean years ago — and no one said he broke the law
Potential Argument 1: Manafort's luxury expenses were legitimate
Potential Argument 2: That email says it's from Manafort, but is it?
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/06/manafort-trial-defense-mueller-760452 (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/06/manafort-trial-defense-mueller-760452)
Chris
08-06-2018, 02:47 PM
Cohen is going to flip. Non-issue.
Pavlov
08-06-2018, 02:52 PM
Cohen is going to flip. Non-issue.You're doing the troll thing, Chris.
Chris
08-06-2018, 02:54 PM
You're doing the troll thing, Chris.
Nope. Michael Avenatti and Tom Arnold are waiting in the wings. It's happening.
Pavlov
08-06-2018, 02:58 PM
Nope. Michael Avenatti and Tom Arnold are waiting in the wings. It's happening.You're doing the troll thing, Chris.
boutons_deux
08-06-2018, 07:29 PM
Gates says he embezzled $100Ks from Manafort
Chris
08-06-2018, 07:48 PM
Yup, Mueller's star witness just admitted he has ZERO credibility. :lol
spurraider21
08-06-2018, 08:05 PM
Yup, Mueller's star witness just admitted he has ZERO credibility. :lol
he stated so on the record?
Chucho
08-06-2018, 08:10 PM
he stated so on the record?
Boutons good now.
koriwhat
08-06-2018, 08:12 PM
ahahahahahaha!
hater
08-07-2018, 01:01 PM
:lmao
What follows is taken from the transcript:
“Look at me when you’re talking to me,’’ Ellis said to Andres.
“I’m sorry, judge, I was,’’ Andres said.
“No, you weren’t,’’ Ellis said. “You were looking down.’’
“Because I don’t want to get in trouble for some facial expression,’’ the prosecutor said. “I don’t want to get yelled at again by the court for having some facial expression when I’m not doing anything wrong, but trying my case.’’
Ellis said to another prosecutor: “You must be quiet.’’
“I’m sorry, judge,’’ Andres said.
“Well, I understand how frustrated you are. In fact, there’s tears in your eyes right now.’’
“There are not tears in my eyes, Judge,’’ Andres said.
“Well, they’re watery,’’ Ellis said. “Look, I want you to focus sharply on what you need to prove -- to prove the crime. And I don’t understand what a lot of these questions have to do with it.’
:lmao judge ellis obliterating Mueller team :lmao
Winehole23
08-07-2018, 01:04 PM
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--_gGPG6Rn--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/yhghtrjckar3ehdccilf.jpg
https://politics.theonion.com/defiant-manafort-enters-trial-wearing-coat-made-of-live-1828140425
RandomGuy
08-08-2018, 03:21 PM
:lmao year and a half collusion investigation.
Thousands of agents working 24/7 :lol
Millions of taxpayers dollars spent
And Muller team’s evidence on Manafort trial: his collection of expensive yet horrible clothing :lmao
Apparently when they raided Manaforts house most time was spent taking pictures of his closet :lmao
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Man, you really haven't been paying attention to this thing, have you?
SO will Manafort be found not guilty?
.
boutons_deux
08-17-2018, 01:47 PM
The extraordinary bias of the judge in the Manafort trial
The performance of U.S. District Court Judge T.S. Ellis III (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/whos-who-at-the-manafort-trial/2018/07/31/59c85034-7897-11e8-80be-6d32e182a3bc_story.html?utm_term=.28a58a7c973c) in the trial of Paul Manafort on bank fraud and tax evasion charges
has been decidedly unusual.
During the trial, Ellis intervened regularly, and
mainly against one side: the prosecution.
The judge's interruptions occurred in the presence of the jury and on matters of substance, not courtroom conduct.
He disparaged the prosecution's evidence,
misstated its legal theories,
even implied that prosecutors had disobeyed his orders when they had not.
For now, we have only the extraordinary evidence of Ellis's conduct during the 12-day trial (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/08/15/paul-manafort-trial-day-12-live-coverage/?utm_term=.fab7d593ff38).
The judge continually interrupted the prosecution's questioning of witnesses,
prompting lead prosecutor Greg Andres to pointedly note (http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/401443-judge-in-the-manafort-trial-is-creating-some-big-problems):
"Your honor stops us and asks us to move on."
Ellis pressed the prosecution to rush through testimony about important financial documents.
He made critical comments about prosecution evidence and strategy — all in front of the jury.
Ellis also questioned the relevance of Manafort's work as a political consultant for Russian-backed politicians in Ukraine,
for which he was paid tens of millions of dollars (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/08/08/paul-manafort-trial-day-7-live-coverage/?utm_term=.d606843549c4) from 2010 to 2014.
But if Manafort didn't disclose some payments because he was not registered in the United States as a foreign agent,
it would provide a motive to hide the amounts from the U.S. government — just what the trial was about.
Ellis chided prosecutors for eliciting testimony about Manafort's lavish lifestyle,
but that kind of testimony is also a classic element in a tax-evasion case.
That your cars, boats, condos and clothing suggest you made much more income than you reported would surely be relevant.
After prosecutor Uzo Asonye questioned a bank employee about Manafort's failed attempt (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/09/paul-manafort-trial-day-8-judge-ellis-769889) to obtain a $5.5 million construction loan on a Brooklyn brownstone, the judge — unprompted by a defense objection — declared (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/08/10/paul-manafort-trial-day-9-live-coverage/?utm_term=.8a55c039331d):
"You might want to spend time on a loan that was granted."
The comment strongly implied to jurors that the prosecution was wasting their time.
But an attempt to defraud was part of the conspiracy count
in the indictment; false representation to secure a loan, successful or not, is itself a crime.
Clearly worried about its outcome, prosecutors went so far as to
urge Ellis to tell the jury, in his instructions before they began deliberating, not to let his commentary affect their decision-making. Ellis essentially (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/08/15/paul-manafort-trial-day-12-live-coverage/?utm_term=.fab7d593ff38) did just that on Wednesday.
It may well have been too little too late.
The potential for judges to influence juries is so great that
courts often caution jurors against reading too much into a judge's subtle nonverbal behaviors, a nod of the head, a smile or a frown. Jurors do it anyway.
Legal scholars study whether judges' conduct on the bench influences juries — and reliably find (http://www.bbi.syr.edu/publications/blanck_docs/1985-1994/68INLJ1119.pdf) that it does.
We know next to nothing about this jury.
Seeking to expedite matters, Ellis impaneled the Manafort jury in a single day (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/07/31/paul-manafort-trial-live-coverage/?utm_term=.edb34b81e18e).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-extraordinary-bias-of-the-judge-in-the-manafort-trial/2018/08/16/aca48040-a16c-11e8-83d2-70203b8d7b44_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.44edb49b0bd4&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
Ellis is a Repug judege appointed by St Ronnie.
Very clear why Repugs/oligarchy are ramming through in bunches, polluting the Federal judiciary with hack politicians in robes, since most law is made at Federal district and Federal appeal level, not by SCOTUS
in2deep
08-17-2018, 02:42 PM
Lock her up
pgardn
08-17-2018, 03:00 PM
:lmao year and a half collusion investigation.
Thousands of agents working 24/7 :lol
Millions of taxpayers dollars spent
And Muller team’s evidence on Manafort trial: his collection of expensive yet horrible clothing :lmao
Apparently when they raided Manaforts house most time was spent taking pictures of his closet :lmao
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Can you you tell me why you are a fckn idiot?
This is not a trial concerning collusion.
Its financial misdeeds you dumbass.
There is nothing wrong with you buying an ostrich head to stick up your ass. There is something wrong with you not paying taxes on 60 million dollars. And there is lots more. The case on facts is a lock. But because it’s a jury trial one never knows. Thank you orange God for firing Comey allowing Mueller to go into financial misdeeds.
in2deep
08-17-2018, 04:08 PM
Can you you tell me why you are a fckn idiot?
This is not a trial concerning collusion.
Its financial misdeeds you dumbass.
There is nothing wrong with you buying an ostrich head to stick up your ass. There is something wrong with you not paying taxes on 60 million dollars. And there is lots more. The case on facts is a lock. But because it’s a jury trial one never knows. Thank you orange God for firing Comey allowing Mueller to go into financial misdeeds.
Youre a moron buddy
koriwhat
08-17-2018, 05:51 PM
Can you you tell me why you are a fckn idiot?
This is not a trial concerning collusion.
Its financial misdeeds you dumbass.
There is nothing wrong with you buying an ostrich head to stick up your ass. There is something wrong with you not paying taxes on 60 million dollars. And there is lots more. The case on facts is a lock. But because it’s a jury trial one never knows. Thank you orange God for firing Comey allowing Mueller to go into financial misdeeds.
it's always been about trump and collusion which isn't a crime anyhow. problem is, the dems were the ones to collude and well mueller's witch hunt proceeds and seeps into every knock and cranny it can to bring up whatever dirt it can without staying on its original path of investigating collusion.
i can't wait for america to finally wake from its sleep state and realize those who have been in power the last few decades are the same ones who should had been flushed down the drain a long time ago.
clambake
08-17-2018, 05:57 PM
it's always been about trump and collusion which isn't a crime anyhow. problem is, the dems were the ones to collude and well mueller's witch hunt proceeds and seeps into every knock and cranny it can to bring up whatever dirt it can without staying on its original path of investigating collusion.
i can't wait for america to finally wake from its sleep state and realize those who have been in power the last few decades are the same ones who should had been flushed down the drain a long time ago.
this trial isn't about collusion, joey.
koriwhat
08-17-2018, 06:11 PM
poor clam... you were put on ignore a while back. try try again... at the ring tone you can leave your message or hang up.
boutons_deux
08-19-2018, 09:11 AM
https://i1.wp.com/www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/danzcolorplus8874.jpg?fit=1200%2C911#aqua_resizer_ image_not_local
pgardn
08-19-2018, 09:27 AM
Youre a moron buddy
Ok.
Good explanation.
pgardn
08-19-2018, 09:36 AM
it's always been about trump and collusion which isn't a crime anyhow. problem is, the dems were the ones to collude and well mueller's witch hunt proceeds and seeps into every knock and cranny it can to bring up whatever dirt it can without staying on its original path of investigating collusion.
i can't wait for america to finally wake from its sleep state and realize those who have been in power the last few decades are the same ones who should had been flushed down the drain a long time ago.
No.
Once Comey was outed, the scope of the trial got bigger. The trial has zero to do with collusion. Manafort’s next trial is not a question of collusion with Russians either. You have to read what the charges are. Read. Not one person so far has gone on trial for collusion with the Russians. It’s lying concerning these questions followed up with a huge dose of wealthy people dodging tax laws and dealing with countries one is not supposed to.
Rich liars that don’t pay their share. Ok now. Or always have been. I don’t mind a bit that their dealings with foreign entities has shed light on their lying and cheating.
pgardn
08-19-2018, 09:38 AM
:lmao
Fox: Colorful Manafort judge warns Mueller team case could tank without key witness
Judge Ellis repeated that he will not allow the prosecution “to gild the lily.”
“It could become relevant if there was a dispute of what the money was spent for,” Ellis said, suggesting there is no dispute at this time.
Manafort’s bookkeeper, Heather Washkuhn, also testified Thursday that she had no knowledge that Manafort had any foreign holdings.
But the Mueller team was rebuffed by Ellis on Wednesday when it first tried to introduce photos of Manafort’s closets, filled with suits and other high-end articles of clothing. Ellis noted that those photos would eventually become fodder for the media, and called them "unnecessary" for jurors to see.
“Enough is enough. We don’t convict people because they have a lot of money and throw it around,” he said.
The judge already admitted he interjected himself inappropriately.
so yeah...
pgardn
08-19-2018, 09:44 AM
Manafort has not one shred of evidence to deny his financial misdeeds. Zero. They called zero witnesses to deny the prosecutions claims. It all rests on the jury thinking his slimy associate Gates is just as bad. That’s all they got, and it may work. This has zero to do with what Manafort has done. Probably why Manafort risked it. He was done by admitting stuff. Dude is in the end years anyways.
boutons_deux
08-19-2018, 09:47 AM
Manafort has not one shred of evidence to deny his financial misdeeds. Zero. They called zero witnesses to deny the prosecutions claims. It all rests on the jury thinking his slimy associate Gates is just as bad. That’s all they got, and it may work. This has zero to do with what Manafort has done. Probably why Manafort risked it. He was done by admitting stuff. Dude is in the end years anyways.
Gates was a side show.
The main show is the DOCUMENTED tax evasion and loan fraud.
Why was the jury asking for a definition of "reasonable doubt", but fuck it, hilariously dumbed down America is where we are, eg, Trash's cult.
Manafort has not one shred of evidence to deny his financial misdeeds. Zero. They called zero witnesses to deny the prosecutions claims. It all rests on the jury thinking his slimy associate Gates is just as bad. That’s all they got, and it may work. This has zero to do with what Manafort has done. Probably why Manafort risked it. He was done by admitting stuff. Dude is in the end years anyways.
You don't need witnesses to deny claims. You need them to support claims. The court is supposed to presume innocence until proven guilty, so burden of proof is on the accuser.
Durant82
08-19-2018, 11:28 AM
poor clam... you were put on ignore a while back. try try again... at the ring tone you can leave your message or hang up.
:lmao koriwhat just can’t ignore people that he puts on ignore.
pgardn
08-19-2018, 01:54 PM
You don't need witnesses to deny claims. You need them to support claims. The court is supposed to presume innocence until proven guilty, so burden of proof is on the accuser.
And it has been met in a most thorough manner.
IF Manafort’s attorneys had any witnesses on contrived financial transactions he would have brought them forward immediately. They could not even make headway crossexamining the prosecution’s witness on Manafort’s financial misdeeds except to say Gates was worse.
The case is so obvious. But so was OJs... quite a bit less so than this one imo. His only hope, a jury member that does not listen to the charges brought or the evidence.
Before this investigation I never heard of the guy so fuck him.
Chris
08-19-2018, 10:32 PM
Before this investigation I never heard of the guy so fuck him.
He's the guy who sold us on "weapons of mass destruction." Think of how many people have died because of that.
EDIT: You're talking about Manafort. eh whatever :lol
pgardn
08-19-2018, 10:41 PM
He's the guy who sold us on "weapons of mass destruction." Think of how many people have died because of that.
EDIT: You're talking about Manafort. eh whatever :lol
Wtf are you talking about?
Simple:
Symbolically Mueller is draining Trump’s swamp.
Im good with that. I dislike lying hypocrites. Especially as president.
So this all comes back to make the Orange guy distracted and scared.
Thats cool. Occupy him. We do better if other people run the show.
pgardn
08-19-2018, 10:46 PM
Before this investigation I never heard of the guy so fuck him.
I never heard of most of these people before Orange guy... So what. Now I have and they are slime. Obama had plenty of slime hired. Just not overt slime...not In your face I can get away with this slime.
RandomGuy
08-21-2018, 02:37 PM
:lmao year and a half collusion investigation.
Thousands of agents working 24/7 :lol
Millions of taxpayers dollars spent
And Muller team’s evidence on Manafort trial: his collection of expensive yet horrible clothing :lmao
Apparently when they raided Manaforts house most time was spent taking pictures of his closet :lmao
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Looking like guilty on 17 of 18 counts.
http://www.startribune.com/jury-in-manafort-trial-enters-4th-day-of-deliberations/491355791/
hater
08-21-2018, 03:13 PM
As I said this distrct court has almost 100% conviction rate
Manafort was doomed before this trial started
hater
08-21-2018, 03:25 PM
https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1032000347047428097?s=21
hater
08-21-2018, 03:25 PM
Guilty on 8 is my guess.....
hater
08-21-2018, 03:26 PM
Guilty on 8 is my guess.....
Called it
https://twitter.com/slsiri/status/1032000805203787777?s=21
hater
08-21-2018, 03:30 PM
Since Im on a roll
12 years senence with 5 years served is the final tally :tu
Judge declares mistrial on 10 counts.
Guilty on at least one.
RandomGuy
08-21-2018, 03:45 PM
Judge declares mistrial on 10 counts.
Guilty on at least one.
https://www.breachbangclear.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Reporters-Rushing-to-Phone-Booth.gif
Correction: 8.
Guy dies in prison regardless. Oh and yeah he has another trial to go next month.
spurraider21
08-21-2018, 03:48 PM
they still have the option of retrying the other counts... the door isn't closed on those yet. depends on the vote count, mostly likely.
amazingly he wasn't found not guilty of a single count
RandomGuy
08-21-2018, 03:56 PM
Correction: 8.
Guy dies in prison regardless. Oh and yeah he has another trial to go next month.
https://www.smart-central.com/Images/canary_sing.gif
Pavlov
08-21-2018, 03:57 PM
https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1032000347047428097?s=21
Guilty on 8 is my guess.....
Called it
https://twitter.com/slsiri/status/1032000805203787777?s=21hater declares victory over arithmetic.
RandomGuy
08-21-2018, 03:58 PM
they still have the option of retrying the other counts... the door isn't closed on those yet. depends on the vote count, mostly likely.
amazingly he wasn't found not guilty of a single count
305 years. I expect him to cooperate with Mueller. Fuckers like that think the law doesn't apply to them and are always shocked when it does.
Fuck this fucking fucker.
spurraider21
08-21-2018, 03:58 PM
could have been a not guilty or two among the 8 where verdicts were reached
spurraider21
08-21-2018, 03:59 PM
305 years. I expect him to cooperate with Mueller. Fuckers like that think the law doesn't apply to them and are always shocked when it does.
Fuck this fucking fucker.
305 was the max on all 18 counts iirc
should be a revised figure based on just the 8 for now (pending another trial for the 10)
305 was the max on all 18 counts iirc
should be a revised figure based on just the 8 for now (pending another trial for the 10)
That prison time was always unrealistic per Renato.
Says that 18 or 8..he would have gotten the same time in the end.
https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1032004673744654336
spurraider21
08-21-2018, 04:09 PM
That prison time was always unrealistic per Renato.
Says that 18 or 8..he would have gotten the same time in the end.
https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1032004673744654336
:tu federal/state distinctions can be a pain
hater
08-21-2018, 04:24 PM
New max is 80
Judge seems like a reasonable guy so I cant see him getting more than 30 tbqh
I revise my estimate to 22 years imho
boutons_deux
08-22-2018, 08:57 AM
Trump Touts ‘Respect’ For ‘Brave Man’ Paul Manafort: Unlike Michael Cohen, He Refused to Break
https://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-touts-respect-for-brave-man-paul-manafort-unlike-michael-cohen-he-refused-to-break/
boutons_deux
08-22-2018, 09:46 AM
Trash trying to charm Manafort into keeping his mouth shut?
Manafort's going to prison for years, maybe a few less years if he flips and brings down Trash
boutons_deux
08-23-2018, 12:08 AM
only one juror blocked unanimity on 10 charges, probably jury tampering
Fox says Trash is gonna pardon Manafort
Ari Fleischer says that would be impeachment
ElNono
08-23-2018, 05:04 AM
we went from jackets to 22 years in jail pretty quickly here :lol
where's the "that escalated quickly" gif?
Brazil
08-23-2018, 07:09 AM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/33ac1d3d429cda1835eca2992d0f9c88/tenor.gif?itemid=5112090
hater
08-23-2018, 08:06 AM
we went from jackets to 22 years in jail pretty quickly here :lol
where's the "that escalated quickly" gif?
It was the Alexandria district court. He was obviously gonna be convicted of something :lmao
They have 99% conviction rate
Thats why prosecution probably paraded the jackets since they were sure conviction was coming anyway :lol
Hell, Elnono would be convicted of being an illegal mexican in 30 minutes in there after prosecution parades his collectionn of Ponchos :lmao
ElNono
08-23-2018, 07:08 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/33ac1d3d429cda1835eca2992d0f9c88/tenor.gif?itemid=5112090
:lol mah nig
Brazil
08-24-2018, 07:02 AM
:lol mah nig
:lol
boutons_deux
09-02-2018, 02:09 PM
Paul Manafort’s Daughter Changing Last Name
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-paul-manaforts-daughter-changing-last-name?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29
pgardn
09-02-2018, 05:58 PM
It was the Alexandria district court. He was obviously gonna be convicted of something :lmao
They have 99% conviction rate
Thats why prosecution probably paraded the jackets since they were sure conviction was coming anyway :lol
Hell, Elnono would be convicted of being an illegal mexican in 30 minutes in there after prosecution parades his collectionn of Ponchos :lmao
Bullshit.
ONE juror held out on the 10 other counts, ONE. That’s all it takes.
Plus a judge trying to play old comedian.
The evidence was overwhelming. But one juror who won’t listen to the actual charges and evidence can change everything.
You don’t follow very well.
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