Beto Orourke might actually beat Ted Cruz and yes Obama also not endorsing him

[hater]

:wow

That would be a huge upset but looks like Beto has the momentum

1025778323694211072

[dabom]

:wow

That would be a huge upset but looks like Beto has the momentum

1025778323694211072

Dude is gonna win.

[baseline bum]

Quinnipiac has Cruz +6 in their poll released Wednesday

https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/tx/tx08012018_tecd19.pdf

[Pavlov]

Not getting my hopes up, but it will be nice to have my vote count this time around.

[AaronY]

Not happening

[AaronY]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/tx/texas_senate_cruz_vs_orourke-6310.html

[koriwhat]

i'm gonna go register red... fuck this bs!

[Pavlov]

i'm gonna go register red... fuck this bs!lol "not a Republican"

[koriwhat]

lol "not a Republican"

lol hook, line, and sinker.

you're too easy pavTHETIC.

[Pavlov]

lol hook, line, and sinker.

you're too easy pavTHETIC.lol "jes' jokes"

[koriwhat]

lol "jes' jokes"

got my ticket to see spicer this tuesday at magnolia. :tu

[CosmicCowboy]

Cruz is a liability to the Republican party but he will still win the election.

[Reck]

Cruz is a liability to the Republican party but he will still win the election.

Yes, yes he is.

Thanks to people like you.

[CosmicCowboy]

Meh. The thought of a demo house and senate is scary.

[koriwhat]

Meh. The thought of a demo house and senate is scary.

indeed. :tu

[dabom]

Meh. The thought of a demo house and senate is scary.

It could be Satan and you'd still have the same rationale. :lol

Thanks for showing us the true colors of a repug. :lol

[Monostradamus]

Why do we keep talking about this guy like he has any chance whatsoever?

[BD24]

Beto has a pretty decent chance tbh.

This is the perfect storm. Cruz is fucking horrible, even republicans hate him. Along comes a young, energetic Dem who is going from city to city connecting with people. I met the guy when he came to San Antonio, he seems like a pretty cool guy. The people that are voting for him are far more passionate about him than the people voting for Cruz are about him.

Have been seeing a lot of Beto for Senate signs around town. Will be interesting to see how this turns out.

[dabom]

Beto has a pretty decent chance tbh.

This is the perfect storm. Cruz is fucking horrible, even republicans hate him. Along comes a young, energetic Dem who is going from city to city connecting with people. I met the guy when he came to San Antonio, he seems like a pretty cool guy. The people that are voting for him are far more passionate about him than the people voting for Cruz are about him.

Have been seeing a lot of Beto for Senate signs around town. Will be interesting to see how this turns out.


All the rich neighborhoods have Beto signs around town in SA. :lol

Not one Cruz sign. :lol

[Reck]

It could be Satan and you'd still have the same rationale. :lol

Thanks for showing us the true colors of a repug. :lol

It's so easy.

These people pretend to have a moral compass and they pretend they stand for something but always Rand Paul their way to voting the way of republicans anyways.

It's just easier to admit you're a republican and will vote that way no matter what.

[Reck]

Why do we keep talking about this guy like he has any chance whatsoever?

Doug Jones had virtually no shot either. You never know about these things.

[DMX7]

Why do we keep talking about this guy like he has any chance whatsoever?

He has a chance but it's just tiny.

[dabom]

It's so easy.

These people pretend to have a moral compass and they pretend they stand for something but always Rand Paul their way to voting the way of republicans anyways.

It's just easier to admit you're a republican and will vote that way no matter what.

That's called being brainwashed. I won't vote for a pedo and if that hurts the party, that's where the chips fall.

It's the parties fault for bringing in faulty candidates. But repugs will vote for a slimy fuck and feel good about promoting that individual. :lol

[pgardn]

Cruz is scary, more so than Donald actually.

I will be with the Beto.
And... it’s a loss.
(R) rules.

[boutons_deux]

Cruz (and any TX Repug) re-elected would prove what a shit hole TX Repug voters create and sustain

eg

Down in San Antonio, another battle over mandatory sick leave takes shape

The San Antonio City Council would run afoul of state law if it were to mandate that private employers in the city provide paid sick leave to their workers, the Texas Attorney General's office warned on July 9.

David Hacker (https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/search/results?q=David%20Hacker), special counsel for civil litigation under Attorney General Ken Paxton (https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/search/results?q=Ken%20Paxton), in a letter (https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/files/epress/OAG_Letter_to_San_Antonio_City_Council.pdf?cachebu ster:36) addressed to San Antonio Mayor Ron Nirenberg (https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/search/results?q=Ron%20Nirenberg), said that

while the city's charter requires it to vote on an ordinance as described in a petition calling for paid sick leave,

such an ordinance can't be enforced.

"No matter the Council's decision or the result of any ballot initiative,

Texas law preempts a municipal paid sick leave ordinance," Hacker wrote.

https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/2018/07/10/down-in-san-antonio-another-battle-over-mandatory.html

Motherfucking TX Repugs even pass TX laws the prevent humanitarian, common-sense employment polices.

A SHIT FUCKING HOLE is TEXAS

[Monostradamus]

Doug Jones had virtually no shot either. You never know about these things.
Oh, so we all we need is for Ted Cruz to get outed as a pedo before the election :lol Purple Texas is upon us!

[Spurtacular]

That ad had no substantive positions. It did have a couple platitudes. That's not gonna get 'er done, tbh.
hater dreaming. Though this guy is likeable. If he had ran against Lyin' Ted in a Republican primary it might've been a different story.

[Spurtacular]

It's so easy.

These people pretend to have a moral compass and they pretend they stand for something but always Rand Paul their way to voting the way of republicans anyways.

It's just easier to admit you're a republican and will vote that way no matter what.

I know, right? Did he even bother to meet you at the tranny club? SMDH These 'men of the people'.

[Spurtacular]

Dude is gonna win.

Cos why? Cos he's counting places visited?

:lmao The Hillary Rodham approach

[dabom]

Cos why? Cos he's counting places visited?

:lmao The Hillary Rodham approach

Actually orange shit went to more places. :lol

Do you know shit buddy? :lol

[dabom]

Cant even go one post without getting murdered by me. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

Actually orange shit went to more places. :lol

Do you know shit buddy? :lol

I was speaking about bragging about all the countries she visited as secretary of state to go along with her thirty years.

"Hillary you've got experience, but it's bad experience."
"You had thirty years to get this done, why are you just thinking of this now?"

:lmao Still resonating in my ears.

[Reck]

Cos why? Cos he's counting places visited?

:lmao The Hillary Rodham approach

You can’t outderp the derp.

thats exactly the opposite and one of the key reasons why she lost. She was too lazy to go to key states. Derp, you never seize to astound with your great stupidity.

[Spurtacular]

Cant even go one post without getting murdered by me. :lmao

I murdered apalisoc_9

Dude straight tapped out. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

You can’t outderp the derp.

thats exactly the opposite and one of the key reasons why she lost. She was too lazy to go to key states. Derp, you never seize to astound with your great stupidity.

Too sick you mean, tranny. Not to mention the ground swell wasn't there, anyways like it was for the guy she stole the nomination from. Have you still not come to terms? :lmao

[dabom]

I was speaking about bragging about all the countries she visited as secretary of state to go along with her thirty years.

"Hillary you've got experience, but it's bad experience."
"You had thirty years to get this done, why are you just thinking of this now?"

:lmao Still resonating in my ears.

Were talking about campaigns dumb shit. :lmao

[Reck]

I was speaking about bragging about all the countries she visited as secretary of state to go along with her thirty years.

"Hillary you've got experience, but it's bad experience."
"You had thirty years to get this done, why are you just thinking of this now?"

:lmao Still resonating in my ears.

:lol fail backtrack.

Who is going to believe that is what you meant. Do other countries vote along with the US to select actual US presidents?

you’re an incredibly stupid person.

[dabom]

It's not even fun if it's too easy. Someone handle my light weight. :lol

[Spurtacular]

Were talking about campaigns dumb shit. :lmao


It's not even fun if it's too easy. Someone handle my light weight. :lol

Man, the bar is tranny Reck (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) and cuck Blake (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460) and you still can't get your chumpette application approved.

:rollin

[Spurtacular]

:lol fail backtrack.

Who is going to believe that is what you meant. Do other countries vote along with the US to select actual US presidents?

you’re an incredibly stupid person.

True or false: In a debate, Hillary boasted about all the countries she visited as secretary of state and cited that as a qualification.

:lmao Tranny crying about not being able to "believe".
:lmao "light weight"

[dabom]

True or false: In a debate, Hillary boasted about all the countries she visited as secretary of state and cited that as a qualification.

:lmao Tranny crying about not being able to "believe".
:lmao "light weight"

Didn't know Beto out here talking about how many countries he's been too. Even your own fucked up sense is wrong. :lmao

[Monostradamus]

Cant even go one post without getting murdered by me. :lmao
:lol

[dabom]

You got murdered twice with one comment. Only your dumbass could achieve that. :lmao :lmao

[Pavlov]

You know, sins of the father and all that -- but I just can't vote for someone whose daddeh killed JFK.

Prove me wrong.

[Spurtacular]

Didn't know Beto out here talking about how many countries he's been too. Even your own fucked up sense is wrong. :lmao

:lmao "Light weight"
:lmao No extrapolation skills.

[Spurtacular]

You know, sins of the father and all that -- but I just can't vote for someone whose daddeh killed JFK.

Prove me wrong.

So, your conspiracy theories are substantive at the end of the day :downspin:

[dabom]

:lmao "Light weight"

Learn from the L's son. :tu

[Spurtacular]

Learn from the L's son. :tu

Did you just call yourself L for short?

:rollin

[dabom]

Did you just call yourself L for short?

:rollin

That doesn't make sense, son. :lol

[Spurtacular]

You got murdered twice with one comment. Only your dumbass could achieve that. :lmao :lmao

You live in your own world, L. I beat your bruh to death. Apple sauce tapping out. :lol

[dabom]

You got murdered twice with one post dumbass. :lol

[Spurtacular]

You got murdered twice with one post dumbass. :lol

You going autism mode, L.

[dabom]

You going autism mode, L.

*yawn

/spurtacular weaksauce :lol

[Pavlov]

So, your conspiracy theories are substantive at the end of the day :downspin:Hey Trump said it.

Prove him wrong.

[Spurtacular]

Hey Trump said it.

Prove him wrong.

So, that's your excuse for believing a conspiracy theory for all the railing you do against others who put them forth?

:lmao Today's combustible chump

[Spurtacular]

*yawn

/spurtacular weaksauce :lol

You make chump look smart by comparison, and they still won't accept your application. :lmao

[Pavlov]

So, that's your excuse for believing a conspiracy theory for all the railing you do against others who put them forth?

:lmao Today's combustible chumpare you're saying it's a stupid conspiracy theory?

[dabom]

You make chump look smart by comparison, and they still won't accept your application. :lmao

I hope you learned your lesson little league. :lol

[Spurtacular]

are you're saying it's a stupid conspiracy theory?

I'm saying you're putting your faith in a conspiracy theory.

[Spurtacular]

hater were you bored or what?

You know a Democrat ain't winning a Texas senator seat, even if it is Lyin' Ted he's running against.

[Reck]

Derp calling for help. :lol

Poor Guy. Not even Chris can help you from that hole you just dug yourself.

[Spurtacular]

Derp calling for help. :lol

Poor Guy. Not even Chris can help you from that hole you just dug yourself.

Damn. Tranny don't even know when to use the schtick. Get back to y'er dudes. It's a Saturday night after all.

[Trill Clinton]

1025565911539957760

[dabom]

1025565911539957760

What the fuck is that? :lmao

"Ok guys, lets get every fucking weird take or action and mash it all together into one weird fucking political ad" :lol

[Reck]

1025565911539957760

I found the white fat guy's mother.
https://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Ill+give+you+some+ham+dont+be+shy_1e322d_5082294.g if

[dabom]

Someone that is voting for Beto made that final cut. :lol

[dabom]

Watching that video is so fucking off putting. :lol

[Reck]

Watching that video is so fucking off putting. :lol

Yeah it has to be a fake ad.

I mean the last few seconds were a plea for pedo votes for god's sake.

[Spurtacular]

This reminding me how all the chumpettes were selling the company line that only Cruz, not Trump could beat Hillary. :lmao

[SnakeBoy]

1025565911539957760

That's a good ad. Hurricane Harvey was a good time to go duck hunting in northern Louisiana.

[Reck]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj2cn1zUUAAzvhX.jpg

Pretty accurate, amirite CosmicCowboy DarrinS Chris ducks SnakeBoy ?

[sickdsm]

i'm gonna go register red... fuck this bs!
As a registered independent, the only primary I can vote in South Dakota is the Democratic one.

[baseline bum]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dj2cn1zUUAAzvhX.jpg

Pretty accurate, amirite CosmicCowboy DarrinS Chris ducks SnakeBoy ?

Spurtacular for sure would take Putin over a Democrat.

[Pavlov]

Spurtacular for sure would take Putin over a Democrat.:lol Derp would rat us out to Stalin then turn himself in for associating with us.

[Chris]

Reck finds a random picture, and wants 5 random guys to comment on it?

[Pavlov]

Reck finds a random picture, and wants 5 random guys to comment on it?You were not chosen randomly, Chris.

[Spurtacular]

Spurtacular (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615) for sure would take Putin over a Democrat.

I'd take an imperialist over a destructor. :lol That you think you have some grand point.

[Spurtacular]

:lol Derp would rat us out to Stalin then turn himself in for associating with us.

You're the one that sings Obama's praises, dipshit.

[hater]

Putin lives and dies for russia

I wish we had an american candidate that would do the same for USA tbh

We dont

[Pavlov]

You're the one that sings Obama's praises, dipshit.He was a middling president.

Would you rather have Putin as your leader or Obama?

[Monostradamus]

Reck finds a random picture, and wants 5 random guys to comment on it?


You were not chosen randomly, Chris.
:lmao

[Spurtacular]

He was a middling president.

Would you rather have Putin as your leader or Obama?

I'll take the guy who fights our actual enemies instead of establishing ISIS.

[Pavlov]

I'll take the guy who fights our actual enemies instead of establishing ISIS.
You didn't answer the question, derp. Would you rather have Putin or Obama as your leader.

The choices are:

Obama

or

Putin

Which one?

[Chris]

I'll take the guy who fights our actual enemies instead of establishing ISIS.

To be fair ISIS was a long term project that started with our CIA and the Mujahideen. Look up Operation Cyclone and Zbigniew Brzezinski.


Brzezinski's daughter is this bitch:


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Mika_Brzezinski.jpg/220px-Mika_Brzezinski.jpg

Guess who she works for?

[Spurtacular]

You didn't answer the question, derp. Would you rather have Putin or Obama as your leader.

The choices are:

Obama

or

Putin

Which one?

Putin is not eligible to be the president.

(And I did answer the question, just not to your liking)

[Isitjustme?]

You were not chosen randomly, Chris.

Lol

[dabom]

Putin is not eligible to be the president.

(And I did answer the question, just not to your liking)

Hes asking a hypothetical question you dumb fuck. :lol

[Spurtacular]

Hes asking a hypothetical question you dumb fuck. :lol

Thanks for the clarification. No telling where we'd be without you. Well, that's not true. The chumpettes would still have one less idiot in their ranks. :lol that they still don't accept you even though you kiss their asses every chance you get.

[DMX7]

0g8WrJRNbWA

[boutons_deux]

Ted Cruz's Opponent Rakes in a Staggering Amount of Donations in One Weekend After Attack Ad Backfires

Beto O'Rourke's grassroots fundraising operation rose to meet the challenge yet again.

the result of Cruz's negative ad blitz is likely not what he was hoping for.

Over the weekend after the ads were released,

O'Rourke raised an astonishing $1.2 million from 39,000 grassroots contributions.

https://www.alternet.org/ted-cruzs-opponent-rakes-donations-after-attack-ad-backfires (https://www.alternet.org/ted-cruzs-opponent-rakes-donations-after-attack-ad-backfires)

I think Cruz has over $8M+ to buy shit hole TX again

[ElNono]

Who is Beta ORourke, tbh? Is this Texas politics?

[SnakeBoy]

Who is Beta ORourke, tbh? Is this Texas politics?

Yeah Texas. Beto is a guy that used to be called Wendy Davis.

[ElNono]

Yeah Texas. Beto is a guy that used to be called Wendy Davis.

sounds legit

[pgardn]

Putin lives and dies for russia

I wish we had an american candidate that would do the same for USA tbh

We dont

Yes.

By keeping the country with the largest landmass with the most mineral wealth,by far, in a permanent state of graft and decay.

You really hate the Russian people.

[Reck]

Yeah Texas. Beto is a guy that used to be called Wendy Davis.

You rightwing nutjobs seem to have a twisted facination with she-mans.

[Spurtacular]

To be fair ISIS was a long term project that started with our CIA and the Mujahideen. Look up Operation Cyclone and Zbigniew Brzezinski.


Brzezinski's daughter is this bitch:


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Mika_Brzezinski.jpg/220px-Mika_Brzezinski.jpg

Guess who she works for?

CIA does more harm than good, tbh.

[Pavlov]

Putin is not eligible to be the president.

(And I did answer the question, just not to your liking)I didn't say anything about president.

I know you're terrified to answer and generally dishonest, so cower away.

[SnakeBoy]

You rightwing nutjobs seem to have a twisted facination with she-mans.

lol that wasn't a tranny reference

[Reck]

lol that wasn't a tranny reference

Oh look, snakeboi drafting off the most retarded poster here.

:lol having less originality than derp.

[boutons_deux]

"Putin lives and dies for russia"

no, and no

[CosmicCowboy]

Yeah Texas. Beto is a guy that used to be called Wendy Davis.

Lol

[CosmicCowboy]

Reck is very sensitive about its metro sheman persona.

[monosylab1k]

Yeah i’m pretty sure that was less of a tranny joke and more of a joke about how Beto is the new trendy Texas Democrat who “might turn the state purple” but ultimately will fail miserably like the others before him.

[Spurminator]

Beto is a really good candidate who is unfortunately running in the wrong state. He has a good future in politics regardless of what happens this year.

[BD24]

Beto is a really good candidate who is unfortunately running in the wrong state. He has a good future in politics regardless of what happens this year.
Agreed. He is better suited for the national stage anyway. Even if he just keeps it within a few points with Cruz that’s a hell of a job and will be good for him.

[Chris]

:cry Poor Beto :cry


:lmao

[spurraider21]

:cry Poor Beto :cry


:lmao
you're doing the troll thing

[hater]

Bless him

1026509614899245056

[hater]

1026839418856865792

:tu

Im not sure why ppl here dont give him a chance. Trump beat Hillary despite everyone writing him off. They said he had less than zero chance

Beto might just pulm it off :tu

[Chris]

No reason to go door to door in San Antonio. Blue city just like all the border cities/counties.

[Spurminator]

No reason to go door to door in San Antonio. Blue city just like all the border cities/counties.

Your point would make sense if voter turnout was 100%, or if Senators were elected by some kind of state-wide Electoral College.

[RandomGuy]

Beto is a really good candidate who is unfortunately running in the wrong state. He has a good future in politics regardless of what happens this year.

He is working his butt off, visiting anywhere and everywhere. Places that Cruz has probably taken for granted for years.

[RandomGuy]

Your point would make sense if voter turnout was 100%, or if Senators were elected by some kind of state-wide Electoral College.

Ocasio-Cortez had it right when she said that Democratic success is not from getting voters to go from Republican to Democrat, but from non-voter to voter.

Democratic policies tend to be favored by majorities of the population.

[vy65]

Does this nig have a chance?

[Chris]

Does this nig have a chance?

lol no

Cruz will cruise to another victory.

[RandomGuy]

Does this nig have a chance?

I think the current polls overstate how close it is. Most likely result is Cruz win.

But, it is more narrow than it has been in years. I have never seen progressives and Democrats in Texas so energized. Energized, but not organized, at least in my neck of the woods.

I think 2020 will be a much stronger showing for Democrats in Texas, as the party gets it act together after years of atrophy/apathy.


[edit]
He has a chance, albeit a narrow one, yes.

[Chris]

I think 2020 will be a much stronger showing for Democrats in Texas, as the party gets it act together after years of atrophy/apathy.

Yeah, Democratic Socialism will certainly get them more votes in 2020.

[KenMcCoy]

Democratic policies tend to be favored by majorities of the population.

Direct correlation?

IQ scores are falling and have been for decades, new study finds

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/13/health/falling-iq-scores-study-intl/

[Chris]

^Department of Education more than likely. I wonder what the IQ numbers were before DoE.

[vy65]

Norwegian researchers analyzed the IQ scores of Norwegian men born between 1962 and 1991 and found that scores increased by almost 3 percentage points each decade for those born between 1962 to 1975 -- but then saw a steady decline among those born after 1975.

Similar studies in Denmark, Britain, France, the Netherlands, Finland and Estonia have demonstrated a similar downward trend in IQ scores, said Ole Rogeberg, a senior research fellow at the Ragnar Frisch Center for Economic Research in Norway and co-author of the new study.

Studies' findings on display in several recent posts to this thread tbh ...

[leemajors]

^Department of Education more than likely. I wonder what the IQ numbers were before DoE.

Since its creation Republicans have repeatedly slashed their funding. Weird how that works.

[boutons_deux]

Ocasio-Cortez had it right when she said that Democratic success is not from getting voters to go from Republican to Democrat, but from non-voter to voter.

Democratic policies tend to be favored by majorities of the population.

A majority of Repugs are at least laissez-faire on abortion and for pathway to citizenship for Dreamers and other immigrants.

The hate-filled evangelical so-called Christians are the tag wagging the Repug two-tailed dog, the other tail wagged by the oligarchy.

[KenMcCoy]

A majority of Repugs are at least laissez-faire on abortion and for pathway to citizen ship for Dreamers and other immigrants.

The hate-filled evangelical so-called Christians are the tag wagging the Repug two-tailed dog, the other tail wagged by the oligarchy.

With you on this. I'm pro-choice on abortion (but against it personally), think Dreamers should have a clear path to citizenship, and (since my family are immigrants) support LEGAL immigration.

[RandomGuy]

With you on this. I'm pro-choice on abortion (but against it personally), think Dreamers should have a clear path to citizenship, and (since my family are immigrants) support LEGAL immigration.

Agreed on all points.

Data I have seen on immigration says that more is generally better for a country, especially economically.

[KenMcCoy]

Data I have seen on immigration says that more is generally better for a country, especially economically.

Yep...file the paperwork, wait in line like everyone else, and I'm 100% for you being a US citizen.

[Winehole23]

from April 26th of last year, but newsworthy.

in a rare unanimous vote, the FEC faulted Cruz for breaking election law by failing to report large loans from Citibank and Goldman-Sachs (his wife's employer) in his 2012 Senate campaign.

https://www.fec.gov/resources/updates/agendas/2017/mtgdoc_17-19-a.pdf

[Winehole23]

the failure to report upwards of a million dollars in bank loans was an inadvertent error, according to the Cruz campaign.

[CosmicCowboy]

the failure to report upwards of a million dollars in bank loans was an inadvertent error, according to the Cruz campaign.

It an understandable error. It's easy to forget a million dollar bank loan since it's just pocket change.

[Winehole23]

it wasn't an error, Cruz lied about the degree to which he was self-funded:


Cruz said during his 2012 run that he was financing his bid in part with personal funds, liquidating his assets to compete against a well-funded opponent.
The Tea Party favorite’s 2012 financial disclosure showed that he had not sold off enough financial assets to be capable of lending his campaign as much as he claimed, however.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/335262-fec-faults-cruz-on-goldman-sachs-loans-in-rare-unanimous-vote

[Spurminator]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/beto-orourke-ted-cruz-texas-senate-midterms


“We’re not as conservative as, say, Lubbock, but it’s close,” Cheryl Mann Bacon, a retired communications professor at Abilene Christian, told me. According to Bacon, there are three types of conservatives in Abilene: 1) traditional conservatives, with a solid foundation in the political philosophy of conservatism; 2) Trump conservatives, who buy into his more reactionary ideologies; and 3) religious conservatives, who've become increasingly uncomfortable with the way Trump has painted the conservative movement.

Bacon thinks the people in the third category are the ones O’Rourke has a chance of converting. Many of these Christian conservatives are active in programs, facilitated through their church, that assist in refugee resettlement; many local churches have large Latino populations and bilingual services. “I’d never ask someone if they’re here illegally,” Bacon told me. “They’re just someone I worship with. But being that close with them, it helps you realize: These are real people [Trump talks about], and these are real issues.”


In the back row, a retired state worker named Patsy watched the band play a version of Martina McBride’s “Independence Day.” “I’m a Christian, and I don’t believe in gay marriage, and I don’t believe in abortion as a form of birth control,” she told me. “But I think what Christians really want is freedom to impose their beliefs on everyone else, and that’s wrong.” She likes George W. Bush, despises Trump, and voted for Cruz when he ran for Senate in 2012. This time, though, she’s for O’Rourke. “I think he can persuade anyone who’s willing to listen with an open mind,” she said.

“Look around,” Campos-Davis said as she welcomed the crowd. “Who’d have thought?!” O’Rourke took the stage amid thunderous, rock-star applause — which started up again when he talked about working across the aisle (“That’s the way we bridge differences and divide”), high-quality universal health care (“All of us are beneficiaries when we invest in all of us”), treating teachers with respect (“Teachers haven’t seen a cost-of-living increase in 13 years”), and child separation (“Imagine how bad things would have to be for you to leave everything you know on foot”)


There was no mention of abortion or bathroom bills or NFL protests. Instead, O’Rourke offered a holistic alternative to what he describes as the nastiness of Washington and the discourse that flows from it.


The Abilene section of this article is especially worth reading. It will be interesting to watch how/if younger (white) Christians begin to shift their votes in the midterms and in 2020. I've definitely noticed an increase in vocal opposition to Republicans (most specifically Trump) among some Christians my age and younger.

Generally I still expect a vast majority of Christian voters to grudgingly vote for Cruz out of fear of a Democrat majority, just like many of them gritted their teeth and voted for Trump for the Supreme Court.

[StinkyWeezleteats]

Ocasio-Cortez had it right when she said that Democratic success is not from getting voters to go from Republican to Democrat, but from non-voter to voter.

Democratic policies tend to be favored by majorities of the population.

:toast

[boutons_deux]

elections don't matter, it's GAMEOVER

[StinkyWeezleteats]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/beto-orourke-ted-cruz-texas-senate-midterms





The Abilene section of this article is especially worth reading. It will be interesting to watch how/if younger (white) Christians begin to shift their votes in the midterms and in 2020. I've definitely noticed an increase in vocal opposition to Republicans (most specifically Trump) among some Christians my age and younger.

Generally I still expect a vast majority of Christian voters to grudgingly vote for Cruz out of fear of a Democrat majority, just like many of them gritted their teeth and voted for Trump for the Supreme Court.


What are these Christian voters afraid a Democrat majority will do? Are they afraid they will shut down all the churches and turn them gay? I don't get how people can be so devoted to one party and vote for a lunatic (Dump) or the creepy uncle that your mom never let you stay alone with (Cruz). The same goes for Democrats, too, so don't think I am just bashing Repugs.

[boutons_deux]

"What are these Christian voters afraid a Democrat majority will do?"

keep abortion legal

add LGBT as a protected, non-discriminated class in FEDERAL law.

give same-sex marriage ALL the rights and privileges of un-same-sex marriage

block militant so-called Christians from imposing their ethics, morals on non-Christians (in schools, employment)

block the destruction of separation of church and state

... and just WTF else the Christian Taliban / supremacists are relentlessly fighting for.

[Winehole23]

and you said elections didn't matter

[boutons_deux]

and you said elections didn't matter

no contradiction.

those are "imagined" fears of the so-called Christian Taliban, the fear-mongering the Repugs will run on.

Dems taking the House in a few weeks won't change anything legislatively, all progress will be blocked and vetoed, just like Repugs did to Obama, while Trash will continue unchecked to fuck up everything the Exec kakistocracy can fuck up.

Dems may open investigations, but they aren't crazy enough to do them right, nor crazy enough to counter the Repug crazy pushback.

[DMX7]

Maybe Obama isn't endorsing him because he doesn't want to give conservatives ammo to link Beto with Obama (who they have characterized as a super liberal foreign born commie).

[Winehole23]

or maybe Beto is too far left for Obama.

[boutons_deux]

or maybe Beto is too far left for Obama.

that's obviously true. Obama/Hillary/Dem establishment are right-of-center Repugs

Beto and Obama may have agreed that his endorsement in fucking shit hole TX would hurt rather than help.

[hater]

or maybe Beto is too far left for Obama.

Beto is definitely too far left for a neo co

[Spurminator]

Maybe Obama isn't endorsing him because he doesn't want to give conservatives ammo to link Beto with Obama (who they have characterized as a super liberal foreign born commie).

I think that's probably it. Makes more sense for Obama to focus his endorsements in areas/states where he had strong support.

[Isitjustme?]

that's obviously true. Obama/Hillary/Dem establishmen are right-of-center Repugs.

:lmao

[hater]

I think that's probably it. Makes more sense for Obama to focus his endorsements in areas/states where he had strong support.

Disagree

Beto is basically fighting on his own in a red state and Obama is too chicken to throw his hat because hs afraid of angering the same ppl Beto is tightibg with

Chicken

[Chucho]

That dirty Mick appropriated a Hispanic name. Rot in hell.

[Spurminator]

Disagree

Beto is basically fighting on his own in a red state and Obama is too chicken to throw his hat because hs afraid of angering the same ppl Beto is tightibg with

Chicken

Oh okay.

[DMX7]

Disagree

Beto is basically fighting on his own in a red state and Obama is too chicken to throw his hat because hs afraid of angering the same ppl Beto is tightibg with

Chicken

huh?

[Chris]

Beto is scurred :lol


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[leemajors]

Beto is scurred :lol


1034173010838736899

that's not what your article says.

[Winehole23]

100% spin. Chris is a fact-free zone.

[RandomGuy]

or maybe Beto is too far left for Obama.

My guess:

Obama thinks that an endorsement would be a red flag in Texas, and hurt his chances. "first do no harm"

[Spurminator]

^ Yup.

[Reck]

Texas GOP tweeted a picture of Beto's mugshot for some reason and it completely backfired. :lol

[Chris]

I voted for Cruz but this is hilarious :lol


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He still beat Kimmel :lol

[SnakeBoy]

Texas GOP tweeted a picture of Beto's mugshot for some reason and it completely backfired. :lol

How did it backfire?

[Monostradamus]

How did it backfire?
Texas GOP waved the white flag, for starters.

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[Reck]

How did it backfire?

Clearly you dont do twitter. Or read any other site that's not Fox news.

[Reck]

Texas GOP waved the white flag, for starters.

1034843827088093184

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/404159-texas-gop-shares-dwi-mugshot-to-attack-beto-orourke-for-missing-debate-with
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/la-ol-enter-the-fray-ted-cruz-and-the-texas-gop-managed-to-1535582566-htmlstory.html
http://time.com/5381919/beto-orourke-punk-rock/

The hill, Time and the LA Times being compared to jizzrag gossipy sites like Buzzfeed. :lol

Yep, they're desperate in the face of this self own.

[SnakeBoy]

Clearly you dont do twitter. Or read any other site that's not Fox news.

Oh okay. You're celebrating winning the internet, I thought maybe something real had happened.

[teh lulz]

Oh okay. You're celebrating winning the internet, I thought maybe something real had happened.
:lol the guy who does everything for teh lulz is suddenly taking shit serious.

[SnakeBoy]

:lol the guy who does everything for teh lulz is suddenly taking shit serious.

But am I? Maybe I was just trying to trigger someone.

[teh lulz]

But am I? Maybe I was just trying to trigger someone.
Oh, we’re back to it being for teh lulz :lol figured as much.

[boutons_deux]

https://twitter.com/TedGenoways/status/1034823829045096448

[boutons_deux]

Texas Republicans are trying to use Beto’s punk rock days against him


The Texas GOP tried to make Beto O’Rourke look like a drunk punk kid. It backfired.

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/29/17791584/beto-orourke-cruz-gop-punk-band-arrests-mugshot

[boutons_deux]

https://twitter.com/TexasGOP/status/1034591481892405249

[hater]

Kennedys killer ls lead is down to one single point :lmao

Called it :tu

[hater]

:wow

That would be a huge upset but looks like Beto has the momentum

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:tu

[Reck]

Kennedys killer ls lead is down to one single point :lmao

Called it :tu

Polling has been very unrealiable these past couple of elections so I wouldn't pay too much attention to them. Still, Cruz is not liked in his own state. But people vote because mah magic *R.

[Luka Doncic]

Kennedys killer ls lead is down to one single point :lmao

Called it :tu
:lmao “called it” People been saying “he’s got a chance” for months now. You hopped on another bandwagon and tried to claim victory :lmao

[Spurminator]

These polls have a huge amount of undecideds, which in Texas is basically the southern Christian "I don't like Trump(Cruz) but" crowd.

They're just trying to convince themselves they have some semblance of nonpartisan objectivity before they vote straight ticket Republican because abortion.

[RandomGuy]

I voted for Cruz but this is hilarious :lol


1034860566400122880

He still beat Kimmel :lol

https://pics.me.me/i-just-dont-like-the-guy-george-w-bush-nobody-31699091.png

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/57f6bce157540c8c728b4693-750-563.jpg

:lmao

[hater]

:lmao “called it” People been saying “he’s got a chance” for months now. You hopped on another bandwagon and tried to claim victory :lmao

Then why didnt you create a thread about it? Luka Dunce :lmao

[Luka Doncic]

Then why didnt you create a thread about it? Luka Dunce :lmao
:lmao creating a thread = calling it.

i’m not shocked tbh, after the massive L’s you’ve taken recently (gorilla tv :lol), you seem really desperate for any kind of moral victory.

[benefactor]

https://pics.me.me/i-just-dont-like-the-guy-george-w-bush-nobody-31699091.png

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/57f6bce157540c8c728b4693-750-563.jpg

:lmao
784096071999946752

[Spurminator]

I don't really buy into this theory, but it just seems like something you'd only do if someone had some serious dirt on you.

[hater]

:lmao creating a thread = calling it.

i’m not shocked tbh, after the massive L’s you’ve taken recently (gorilla tv :lol), you seem really desperate for any kind of moral victory.

Didnt read dolt :lol

[SnakeBoy]

Some of ya'll starting to act like Beto is going to win

[Reck]

Some of ya'll starting to act like Beto is going to win

Hey man, it's up to you if you want a cuck as a representative of your state.

That picture of him phone banking for Trump after he took a shit on him first then on his dear wife second is my all time favorite picture. The misery on his face is enough.

Plus I get the benefit of knowing his not representing me. He's a permanent shitstain for Texas.

[Pavlov]

Some of ya'll starting to act like Beto is going to winAre you voting for Cruz?

[boutons_deux]

Beto O’Rourke, John McCain, and Respecting Fellow-Americans

This public casting of stones is the worst kind of bad faith—one that, unacquainted with its own holy texts, substitutes fervor and faultfinding for thoughtfulness and reflection. For that reason alone,

Beto O’Rourke’s comments on the protests (https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/beto-orourke-nfl-player-protests-national-anthem/), delivered last week at a town hall in Houston, were an exceptional moment.
O’Rourke, who is challenging Ted Cruz in the U.S. Senate race, was asked what he thought of the N.F.L. protests.

He began his answer by stating that it was an issue on which “reasonable people can disagree.” That now-rare concept—that one’s political counterparts need not be one’s political enemies—was noticeable when O’Rourke expressed it

At the town hall, O’Rourke went on to say that he did not think the protests were disrespectful.

His four-minute explanation of his position—

which cited Taylor Branch’s civil-rights chronicle “Parting the Waters (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0671687425/?tag=thneyo0f-20)”;

Rosa Parks’s refusal, in 1955, to give up her seat on a segregated bus;

the lunch-counter sit-in in Greensboro, North Carolina;

the 1963 bombing of Sixteenth Street Baptist Church, in Birmingham;

the deaths of three civil-rights workers in Philadelphia, Mississippi, the following year;

and the brutal attack on marchers on the Edmund Pettus Bridge, in Selma, the year after that—

sounded as if a history professor had interrupted a political rally to rattle off topics from his “Civil Rights in America” syllabus.

Yet that contextualization of the protests explains precisely why O’Rourke’s response received the viral praise that greeted it.

(A video of the event (https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/beto-orourke-on-nfl-players-kneeling-during-the-national-anthem/2422498247760393/) has attracted millions of views.)

Sacrifice, O’Rourke pointed out, has not been the sole province of the military;

the claim to citizenship, particularly for African-Americans, is anchored in blood shed in theatres much closer to home.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/beto-orourke-john-mccain-and-respecting-fellow-americans

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

1035190635156754432You never said what guns you carry for personal protection, Chris.

What guns do you carry for personal protection?

[Chris]

You never said what guns you carry for personal protection, Chris.

What guns do you carry for personal protection?

None of your business.

[koriwhat]

mr. dwi trying to relate to a certain demographic by using his nickname BETO. lmao the left's tactics are too predictable.

[Chris]

mr. dwi trying to relate to a certain demographic by using his nickname BETO. lmao the left's tactics are too predictable.

Disgusting tbh but Raphael Edward Cruz is a far cry from Ted. Beto is way more egregious imo

[Spurminator]

mr. dwi trying to relate to a certain demographic by using his nickname BETO. lmao the left's tactics are too predictable.

Yeah he changed his name as a child to appeal to Hispanics for his Senate run almost 50 years later.

Sounds like Ted's lowest-common-denominator ad campaign is working on some people at least.

[baseline bum]

Kennedys killer ls lead is down to one single point :lmao

Called it :tu

At least Beto has a better chance than Le Pen did.

[Pavlov]

None of your business.Do you even own a gun?

[Chris]

Do you even own a gun?

None of your business.

[Pavlov]

None of your business.OK, so you don't even own a gun.

Why make such a big deal about guns?

[boutons_deux]

Dan Patrick is apparently going to allow guns in TX voting places

[Chris]

"Vote for Beto from the block! He's one of you!"

"What's his policy?"

"Who cares?! It's Beto from the block!"

[Chris]

OK, so you don't even own a gun.

Why make such a big deal about guns?

None of your business.

[Pavlov]

"Vote for Beto from the block! He's one of you!"

"What's his policy?"

"Who cares?! It's Beto from the block!""It's not Ted Cruz!"

Are you voting for Cruz, Chris?

[boutons_deux]

Beto is sounding way too serious, thoughtful, intelligent for fucking shit hole TX.

I figure Krazy Kruz and Repugs will go extremely dirty on Beto in October.

[Chris]

"It's not Ted Cruz!"

Are you voting for Cruz, Chris?

I'm voting for Beto. He's going to take all the guns away, and make Texas safe again.

[Spurminator]

He's not going to do anything about guns.

Your Twitter friends' collections are safe.

[Pavlov]

I'm voting for Beto. He's going to take all the guns away, and make Texas safe again.What's his gun confiscation legislation proposal, Chris?

Give me a link.

[kw's crack dealer]

mr. dwi trying to relate to a certain demographic by using his nickname BETO. lmao the left's tactics are too predictable.
Muhfucka you was just over here yesterday tryna ack like a mexican nigga so that you wouldn’t get yo whiteboy ass whupped by some actual mexicans.

[boutons_deux]

He's not going to do anything about guns.

Your Twitter friends' collections are safe.

Because Trash isn't going to confiscate all guns the way Obama and Hillary did, gun fellators aren't sucker-panicked into buy guns, gun sales are down.

[Luka Doncic]

I'm voting for Beto. He's going to take all the guns away, and make Texas safe again.
The fact that you actually think that shit’s happening shows what a stupid, scared little child you are. For eight fucking years you shook in your boots about Obama taking your guns away too :lmao the fact that the same fearmongering tactics still work on your tiny little brain is just sad.

[Chris]

What's his gun confiscation legislation proposal, Chris?

Give me a link.

I saw it on Rachel Maddow. Her word is good enough for me.

[Chris]

The fact that you actually think that shit’s happening shows what a stupid, scared little child you are. For eight fucking years you shook in your boots about Obama taking your guns away too :lmao the fact that the same fearmongering tactics still work on your tiny little brain is just sad.

What are you even talking about? Maybe you should stick to trolling the NBA forum.

[Pavlov]

I saw it on Rachel Maddow. Her word is good enough for me.Give me a link to the clip. Every show is archived.

[Chris]

Give me a link to the clip. Every show is archived.

It was on live TV. Can't remember what day it was.

[Reck]

Are you voting for Cruz?


1035190635156754432

This one is sure gonna.

[Avante]

OK, so you don't even own a gun.

Why make such a big deal about guns?

Dude, why so worried about other posters?

[Luka Doncic]

What are you even talking about? Maybe you should stick to trolling the NBA forum.
:lmao sad, stupid little boy.

[Pavlov]

It was on live TV. Can't remember what day it was.So no one said it at all ever and you just lied.

OK, Chris.

[Chris]

So no one said it at all ever and you just lied.

OK, Chris.

I'm voting for Beto.

[Chris]

:lmao sad, stupid little boy.

Is this a disconnect?

[Pavlov]

I'm voting for Beto.And you're still lying.

Is that God's plan for you, Chris?

[Chris]

Is that God's plan for you, Chris?

None of your business.

[Avante]

And you're still lying.

Is that God's plan for you, Chris?

Pavlov, why is it all you ever do is bug people, well?

[Reck]

None of your business.

Malfunctioning roboto.

[Pavlov]

Malfunctioning roboto.:lol tough day for him

[Chris]

Pavlov, why is it all you ever do is bug people, well?

He's not bugging me. I pull his strings.

[hater]

Some of ya'll starting to act like Beto is going to win

And why not? Some of us were acting like Trump was gone win on Nov 2016 :lmao

[Pavlov]

And why not? Some of us were acting like Trump was gone win on Nov 2016 :lmaoYou were exactly half the time.

[spurraider21]

He's not bugging me. I pull his strings.
you're doing the troll thing

[Chris]

you're doing the troll thing

I don't need to do the troll thing to participate in a conversation. You're doing the conflation thing again. Your ace in the hole.

[Chris]

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[Reck]

1035295050975141894

What happens when Chris doesn't read past a tweet or headline:


In 2012, the Texas senator declined to support hurricane relief funds for New York and New Jersey after Hurricane Sandy.

Self owning must be in Cruz's and Chris's DNA.

[Spurminator]

I saw it on Rachel Maddow. Her word is good enough for me.

:lol this masochist watches Maddow

[SnakeBoy]

Are you voting for Cruz?

I'm an independent so I'll vote straight Republican again.

[Th'Pusher]

I'm an independent so I'll vote straight Republican again.

:tu Texas rulz

[teh lulz]

I'm an independent so I'll vote straight Republican again.

I’ll always be here for you!

[SnakeBoy]

I’ll always be here for you!

Making an alt just for me is flattering. Although I'd prefer for you to get angry at me and perhaps right a poem to insult me.

[boutons_deux]

One Beto O’Rourke Clip Has Been Viewed More Times Than Obama’s 2008 Convention Speech


https://www.politicususa.com/2018/08/30/one-beto-orourke-clip-has-been-viewed-more-times-than-obamas-2008-convention-speech.html

[hater]

Ole ole ole oleeee

Betoooooo betoooo

https://twitter.com/betoorourke/status/1035394432449892354?s=21

[benefactor]

I pull his strings.


you're doing the troll thing


I don't need to do the troll thing to participate in a conversation.
a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll

:wakeup

[hater]

a : to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll

:wakeup

That would make 90% of posters here trolls :lmao

[in2deep]

Why are people saying he has zero chance?

thats the same thing people said about Trump

[Luka Doncic]

That would make 90% of posters here trolls :lmao
You say that like it’s not actually true?

[Luka Doncic]

Making an alt just for me is flattering. Although I'd prefer for you to get angry at me and perhaps right a poem to insult me.
*write

[pgardn]

I don't need to do the troll thing to participate in a conversation. You're doing the conflation thing again. Your ace in the hole.

With copied twitter banter...

Thanks for your contributions.

[koriwhat]

Yeah he changed his name as a child to appeal to Hispanics for his Senate run almost 50 years later.

Sounds like Ted's lowest-common-denominator ad campaign is working on some people at least.

i dont even know what cruz's ad campaign even looks like nor sounds like. looks like you're just another jump to conclusions moron.

why not use his ol' whitey name robert o'rourke? lmao! don't act like BETO isn't working an angle here.

[pgardn]

Making an alt just for me is flattering. Although I'd prefer for you to get angry at me and perhaps right a poem to insult me.

Gottta Give this

a

touché



-A Poem by pgardn

[Reck]

*write

You will have to forgive Snakeboi. He's so entrenched in the right vs left fight he often forgets how to spell.

Also he's very eager to trigger the libs!

[Luka Doncic]

i dont even know what cruz's ad campaign even looks like nor sounds like. looks like you're just another jump to conclusions moron.

why not use his ol' whitey name robert o'rourke? lmao! don't act like BETO isn't working an angle here.
He’s literally been called Beto since he was in kindergarten. I’m sure winning over the Mexican vote in a Senate election in 2018 was the motivation for a five year old in 1977 to get people to call him that.

Why doesn’t Cuban-Canadian Ted Cruz call himself Rafael? Is it because he needs white conservative votes?

[Reck]

He’s literally been called Beto since he was in kindergarten. I’m sure winning over the Mexican vote in a Senate election in 2018 was the motivation for a five year old in 1977 to get people to call him that.

Dont forget getting arrested a couple of times just adds flavor and appeal.

Smart kid.

[pgardn]

i dont even know what cruz's ad campaign even looks like nor sounds like. looks like you're just another jump to conclusions moron.

why not use his ol' whitey name robert o'rourke? lmao! don't act like BETO isn't working an angle here.

Of course it is.
But the dude grew up in El Paso. He was well within 50 feet of rapists and murderers his formative life.
This counts for something this campaign. So good for him.

[Spurminator]

i dont even know what cruz's ad campaign even looks like nor sounds like. looks like you're just another jump to conclusions moron.

why not use his ol' whitey name robert o'rourke? lmao! don't act like BETO isn't working an angle here.

Why would you change the name you've gone by since childhood, including during your time as a US Representative? That wouldn't make any sense.

[teh lulz]

Making an alt just for me is flattering. Although I'd prefer for you to get angry at me and perhaps right a poem to insult me.
It was a combo troll for you and lefty. You’ll have to ask him for full custody of doing it for teh lulz.

[pgardn]

Why would you change the name you've gone by since childhood, including during your time as a US Representative? That wouldn't make any sense.

I think the point is he could use the whiter name if Democrats voted along white color lines.
Both parties play this game if they can. If he was running for a House seat in Dallas... but he’s not. The dude grew up in El Paso. The people who grew up in SA and have Hispanic friends and neighbors understand. My wife is safe from the brown Mexican fiends.

[benefactor]

That would make 90% of posters here trolls :lmao
Exactly. Everyone here trolls at some level. To say you never do it is just being dishonest for no real reason.

[hater]

Exactly. Everyone here trolls at some level. To say you never do it is just being dishonest for no real reason.

Agreed

Sad thing is twitter or fox news comments are even worse than spurstalk :lol

[Spurminator]

I think the point is he could use the whiter name if Democrats voted along white color lines.
Both parties play this game if they can. If he was running for a House seat in Dallas... but he’s not. The dude grew up in El Paso. The people who grew up in SA and have Hispanic friends and neighbors understand. My wife is safe from the brown Mexican fiends.

I don't think you can say with certainty that he would go by his birth name in any circumstance.

[pgardn]

I don't think you can say with certainty that he would go by his birth name in any circumstance.

In Highland Park District in Dallas I would bet on it.
But not certain I would win.

[RandomGuy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt-vG_TdOT4

[RandomGuy]

In Highland Park District in Dallas I would bet on it.
But not certain I would win.

But would you want to be in a tit movie?