View Full Version : Democrats Looking To Ramp Up The Fascism
Spurtacular
08-13-2018, 06:15 PM
I certainly am missing the point. Can you be more clear in what you mean?
It is in the sense that they can use their time for self-publicity as they please? I mean, that's available to all sides of the equation. I don't see how that is inherently a liberal-only advantage, if that's what you mean.
I think that's a whole other can of worms as to why over time the media skewed very liberal. The fact is that they did though.
Spurtacular
08-13-2018, 06:17 PM
Actually, those were loosened by the current FCC chairman, a Republican. Talk about self-inflicted wounds.
:lol Hacky analysis, tbh.
Winehole23
08-13-2018, 06:20 PM
grow the fuck up, life ain't fair.
you and your viewpoint aren't owed anyone else's platform.
Spurtacular
08-13-2018, 08:10 PM
grow the fuck up, life ain't fair.
you and your viewpoint aren't owed anyone else's platform.
:lol Random lashing out.
Spurtacular
08-13-2018, 08:12 PM
Dont judge the Big Tits and an ashkenazi IQ girl on her looks guys!!
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:lmao 0:26 Cuck Blake sighting
:lmao "nother level"
ElNono
08-14-2018, 01:06 AM
:lol Hacky analysis, tbh.
FCC Relaxes Media Ownership Rules in Contentious Vote
November 16, 2017 10:50AM PT
WASHINGTON — Broadcasters will be allowed to combine with a newspaper in the same market, and could be allowed to own two of the top four stations in a city, as the FCC on Thursday relaxed a series of long-standing media ownership regulations.
The new rules, passed in a 3-2 vote, may be challenged in court, but if they survive, they will mark the most significant changes to media ownership regulations in a generation. They could lead to further consolidation and mergers among broadcasters, who have long argued that they need greater scale to compete with cable and internet companies for local ad dollars.
“The media ownership regulations of 2017 should match the media marketplace of 2017,” FCC Chairman Ajit Pai said. He said the agency was “dragging the broadcast rules into the digital age.” Pai added that the changes are needed, given current consumer habits, as people get their news not just from local stations, but from websites, podcasts, and social media.
The changes are taking place just as the FCC is considering whether to allow Sinclair Broadcast Group to merge with Tribune Media, creating a station group powerhouse with control over 233 stations and a reach of 72% of the country.
https://variety.com/2017/politics/news/fcc-media-ownership-rules-sinclair-broadcasting-1202616424/
ElNono
08-14-2018, 01:07 AM
What's hacky about that?
ElNono
08-14-2018, 01:09 AM
The repealed rule was in place for the past 42 years, preventing consolidation of media ownership.
Spurtacular
08-14-2018, 01:09 AM
FCC Relaxes Media Ownership Rules in Contentious Vote
November 16, 2017 10:50AM PT
WASHINGTON — Broadcasters will be allowed to combine with a newspaper in the same market, and could be allowed to own two of the top four stations in a city, as the FCC on Thursday relaxed a series of long-standing media ownership regulations.
The new rules, passed in a 3-2 vote, may be challenged in court, but if they survive, they will mark the most significant changes to media ownership regulations in a generation. They could lead to further consolidation and mergers among broadcasters, who have long argued that they need greater scale to compete with cable and internet companies for local ad dollars.
“The media ownership regulations of 2017 should match the media marketplace of 2017,” FCC Chairman Ajit Pai said. He said the agency was “dragging the broadcast rules into the digital age.” Pai added that the changes are needed, given current consumer habits, as people get their news not just from local stations, but from websites, podcasts, and social media.
The changes are taking place just as the FCC is considering whether to allow Sinclair Broadcast Group to merge with Tribune Media, creating a station group powerhouse with control over 233 stations and a reach of 72% of the country.
https://variety.com/2017/politics/news/fcc-media-ownership-rules-sinclair-broadcasting-1202616424/
I wasn't arguing against the veracity of the actions of the person in question. I was jeering at your characterization of it all coming down to that one person and time.
Spurtacular
08-14-2018, 01:10 AM
The repealed rule was in place for the past 42 years, preventing consolidation of media ownership.
Yea, there's been no media consolidation before recently. :lmao
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 01:11 AM
nothing at all.
troll gonna troll.
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 01:12 AM
Yea, there's been no media consolidation before recently. :lmaoif you look at the trend, it has increased markedly in the last 20 years or so.
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 01:14 AM
not just in the media, either.
consolidation as a trend is a hallmark of the turn of the 21st century, much as it was a feature of the beginning of the 20th.
there was something in between that disrupted the trend. do you know what it was?
Spurtacular
08-14-2018, 01:15 AM
if you look at the trend, it increased markedly in the last 20 years or so.
Not according to The No's
ElNono
08-14-2018, 01:16 AM
I wasn't arguing against the veracity of the actions of the person in question. I was jeering at your characterization of it all coming down to that one person and time.
You built the argument that media consolidation is one of the root causes of media being liberal. I don't think media is necessarily liberal (there's plenty of options out there for the conservative connoisseur).
But, in arguendo, let's pretend that it is. There's a lot of blame to go around and that includes Republicans/conservatives, which are indeed instrumental into allowing such media consolidation.
I mean, after all, Republican administrations are on track to be in power more than Democrat administrations for the past 30+ years (fairly even, actually). So I don't think this arrangement is working out too bad for non-liberals.
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 01:16 AM
The No's?
ElNono
08-14-2018, 01:18 AM
Yea, there's been no media consolidation before recently. :lmao
Well, it did prevent it past a certain limit on any given market. That was the point of the regulation: disallow a single voice to take over an entire region.
I would think that's the kind of plurality in the airwaves you were rooting for...
Spurtacular
08-14-2018, 01:19 AM
You built the argument that media consolidation is one of the root causes of media being liberal. I don't think media is necessarily liberal (there's plenty of options out there for the conservative connoisseur).
http://www.golfian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/CMON-Bruh-Meme-Picture.jpg
ElNono
08-14-2018, 01:21 AM
I don't want to dismantle Mr Pai either, tbh... it's true we live in a different time now, where news travel fairly differently than in the past.
That actually loosened the grip on on information from captive audiences, and it's a good thing, IMO.
I just don't know anything is 'more liberal'... isn't Fox News the #1 ranked news network? How could that be?
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 01:22 AM
what are Sinclair, Fox, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Red State, Commentary, National Review, The Washington Times and the New York Post?
There are many more.
ElNono
08-14-2018, 01:23 AM
http://www.golfian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/CMON-Bruh-Meme-Picture.jpg
cool meme... but substantiate your point. If you spend the day watching CNN or MSNBC for chuckles, I'm sure you'll think that.
Then again, what's strictly conservative or liberal? It really is a matter of opinion.
ElNono
08-14-2018, 01:25 AM
Are the most popular and watched networks liberal? Is that what we're aiming for here? Based on what metrics?
I mean, I'd like to see something concrete.
ElNono
08-14-2018, 01:27 AM
Anyhow, gotta get up early tomorrow... let's keep the convo going... I'll check it out tomorrow...
Spurtacular
08-14-2018, 01:27 AM
cool meme... but substantiate your point. If you spend the day watching CNN or MSNBC for chuckles, I'm sure you'll think that.
Then again, what's strictly conservative or liberal? It really is a matter of opinion.
The (corporate) media in all its forms is overwhelmingly liberal.
:lol That you want to make this "a matter of opinion". Back to hackin' it up I see.
ElNono
08-14-2018, 01:34 AM
The (corporate) media in all its forms is overwhelmingly liberal.
:lol That you want to make this "a matter of opinion". Back to hackin' it up I see.
Define 'overwhelmingly liberal'? Don't talk about religion? Support the gays? I mean, quantify it for me.
I do have to say that social conservatism has been in serious decline for the past couple decades, so, in my opinion, the 'normal' is obviously not what it was 30 years ago.
But I don't particularly think that's heavily tilted to one side or another, if we're arguing availability of viewpoints.
And "matter of opinion" is not hacky at all, tbh... Like, a good question would be: where do you get your news? There's plenty of outlets out there catering from the extremely conservative to the fruity liberal. They all report more or less the same news with very different viewpoints.
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 01:38 AM
Like, a good question would be: where do you get your news? There's plenty of outlets out there catering from the extremely conservative to the fruity liberal. They all report more or less the same news with very different viewpoints.hilariously, all of them rely on the big bad MSM for basic news-gathering.
if you hear a story anywhere, the initial source is likely a wire service, a newspaper or TV news.
FrostKing
08-14-2018, 01:50 AM
USA is a Western nation so naturally the institutions lean Left. Going deeper, this nation is steadily more leftist year after year for the past 50+ years. And lastly, thriving shows (such as 'Last Man Standing') are pulled for conservative statements.
A nation riding the fence would be Poland. And they don't highlight homosexuality, drug use or interracial dating on media.
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 01:54 AM
the US is not more leftist than it was in 1948.
just look at the Democratic Party platform from that year: looks a lot like the DSA, tbh
also, we had actual commies in the USG.
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 01:57 AM
in the last 30 years, Democrats have run away run from New Deal constituencies into the arms of the corporate donor class.
not sure how that counts as leftist.
FrostKing
08-14-2018, 02:15 AM
the US is not more leftist than it was in 1948.
just look at the Democratic Party platform from that year: looks a lot like the DSA, tbh
also, we had actual commies in the USG.
I think the 1960s is fork in the road for America
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 02:17 AM
I think the 1960s is fork in the road for Americahow so?
FrostKing
08-14-2018, 02:23 AM
how so?
Major shifts culturally. The youth of the 60's turned into the parents of the 80s and 90s.
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 02:32 AM
yippies and hippies became yuppies and technocrats.
that's more leftist how?
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 02:55 AM
the culture for sure became more libertarian and permissive after the 1960s.
I don't necessarily associate that with leftism, but if you happens to be a conventionally religious TradCon, I can see how you might describe it that way.
ElNono
08-14-2018, 09:23 AM
A nation riding the fence would be Poland. And they don't highlight homosexuality, drug use or interracial dating on media.
Highlighting, if it brings about conversation about those topics, is actually much more healthy than keeping the subjects taboo. It's not like any of those cease to exist if you don't talk about them, and it's a big reason why social conservatism is in extinction.
I don't particularly think having that conversation makes anything more or less liberal. Conservatives are actually pretty outspoken about them too (ie: your post). I think that's actually part of the misconception.
ElNono
08-14-2018, 09:25 AM
yippies and hippies became yuppies and technocrats.
that's more leftist how?
Some people will tell you Reagan was not a true conservative for their taste, even though the baby boomer generation loves him, and self-identify largely as that type of conservatives.
And now we circle back to a 'matter of opinion'...
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 09:39 AM
Some people will tell you Reagan was not a true conservative for their taste, even though the baby boomer generation loves him, and self-identify largely as that type of conservatives.
And now we circle back to a 'matter of opinion'......and how terms are defined.
there's a pretty good argument to be made that liberalism and conservatism in the USA are essentially two dominant flavors of liberalism.
the contemporary usage of "liberal" as a pejorative obscures that for some, it would seem.
ElNono
08-14-2018, 09:44 AM
there's a pretty good argument to be made that liberalism and conservatism in the USA are essentially two dominant flavors of liberalism.
I read here it's all the oligarchy... fucked and unfuckable and such...
FrostKing
08-14-2018, 11:23 AM
Highlighting, if it brings about conversation about those topics, is actually much more healthy than keeping the subjects taboo. It's not like any of those cease to exist if you don't talk about them, and it's a big reason why social conservatism is in extinction.
I don't particularly think having that conversation makes anything more or less liberal. Conservatives are actually pretty outspoken about them too (ie: your post). I think that's actually part of the misconception.
Poland doesn't censor their Internet so people are free to stream such content
Tug of War between having a social conversation thru art and normalizing radical behavior. Artists are usually the outliers of society so their perspective shouldn't be treated as the norm - like it is in America
I am clearly simplifying the entire situation. Americans are addicted to pop culture but American entertainment industry is the best in the World. The quickest way to "make it in America" is shock value and sometimes I think of the regular American as a guinea pig.
Blake
08-14-2018, 04:16 PM
I mean, I'd like to see something concrete.
:lol not gonna happen
Blake
08-14-2018, 04:18 PM
Define 'overwhelmingly liberal'? Don't talk about religion? Support the gays? I mean, quantify it for me.
:lol not gonna happen
Chris
08-14-2018, 05:46 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DklcUFrW4AA-8IE.jpg:large
^ Yep, this is real.
Pavlov
08-14-2018, 06:07 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DklcUFrW4AA-8IE.jpg:large
^ Yep, this is real.Poor Chris will have to threaten Muslims by himself.
ElNono
08-14-2018, 08:37 PM
Poland doesn't censor their Internet so people are free to stream such content
Tug of War between having a social conversation thru art and normalizing radical behavior. Artists are usually the outliers of society so their perspective shouldn't be treated as the norm - like it is in America
I am clearly simplifying the entire situation. Americans are addicted to pop culture but American entertainment industry is the best in the World. The quickest way to "make it in America" is shock value and sometimes I think of the regular American as a guinea pig.
I mean, except for the clear cut cases, who or what is considered 'radical' changes depending who you ask, tbh... some people think evangelicals are radicals, some other people think every islamic person is radical... some religious folks think atheists are radicals...
What exactly falls within the 'normal' is very debatable, although it's worth recognizing that there's a big gray area in the middle. It's also clear that middle area moves as we evolve as society. Sometimes because of a fade, sometimes because we now better now and we're just leaving behind things that no longer make sense.
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 08:51 PM
the terms left and right are not analytically precise; neither are liberal and conservative, absent lengthy qualification.
maybe growing up in a two party system lends the distinctions credibility.
since there are only two parties that matter electorally, all political striving is presumptively a contest between red and blue.
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 09:06 PM
in the scenario of oligarchy the division gets blurred. left and right unite with corporate power to make serfs of the people and extract the surplus value of the nation-state.
Winehole23
08-14-2018, 09:07 PM
when normal politics delegitimizes itself, more hardcore alternatives acquire the patina of authenticity: the ethnostate, fascism, communism, religious zealotry, terrorism.
ElNono
08-15-2018, 02:11 AM
when normal politics delegitimizes itself, more hardcore alternatives acquire the patina of authenticity: the ethnostate, fascism, communism, religious zealotry, terrorism.
Important to keep a watchful eye. They feed on polarization, gross generalizations and dumbed down debate.
Winehole23
08-15-2018, 08:58 AM
yep
Chris
08-29-2018, 08:01 PM
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Winehole23
08-29-2018, 08:20 PM
sorry for your loss
Winehole23
08-29-2018, 08:22 PM
https://grrrgraphics.com/
Winehole23
08-29-2018, 08:23 PM
google image search turned up hundreds of them. instantly.
so much for the internet blackout of Ben Garrison
ElNono
08-29-2018, 08:29 PM
was going to say, so he wasn't censored at all...
Winehole23
08-29-2018, 08:39 PM
the clear suggestion by Chris and others is that popular digital platforms are the public square and should be forced to accommodate views they find repugnant.
ElNono
08-29-2018, 08:41 PM
The irony that he'll likely always have a place in fake news sites like https://bigleaguepolitics.com/...
SnakeBoy
08-29-2018, 08:44 PM
google image search turned up hundreds of them. instantly.
so much for the internet blackout of Ben Garrison
You didn't read the article.
ElNono
08-29-2018, 08:49 PM
You didn't read the article.
I did.
ElNono
08-29-2018, 08:50 PM
Apparently, the host said they had some technical problems. Fixed the problems, his site is back up.
That's some very inefficient censorship.
SnakeBoy
08-29-2018, 08:54 PM
Apparently, the host said they had some technical problems. Fixed the problems, his site is back up.
That's some very inefficient censorship.
yeah but as the article said the site worked before and after the "code" problem so it's probably a censorship conspiracy.
Winehole23
08-29-2018, 08:58 PM
Ben Garrison had some problems with his host. characterizing it as censorship seems a reach to me, what convinces you it was a conspiracy to silence Ben Garrison for a few hours?
SnakeBoy
08-29-2018, 09:07 PM
Ben Garrison had some problems with his host. characterizing it as censorship seems a reach to me, what convinces you it was a conspiracy to silence Ben Garrison for a few hours?
I honestly didn't think blue font was necessary
ElNono
08-29-2018, 09:09 PM
yeah but as the article said the site worked before and after the "code" problem so it's probably a censorship conspiracy.
AFAIK, his twitter was up all the time during this alleged 'incident'. I don't see the censorship here at all. Especially after he was told what was going on, and apparently, brought him right back up.
ElNono
08-29-2018, 09:10 PM
And honestly, if he really feels that way, there's ways to seek remedy for that. It's not that the judiciary will turn him away if he has legit evidence of censorship or a breach of contract.
SnakeBoy
08-29-2018, 09:14 PM
AFAIK, his twitter was up all the time during this alleged 'incident'. I don't see the censorship here at all. Especially after he was told what was going on, and apparently, brought him right back up.
I honestly didn't think blue font was necessary
ElNono
08-29-2018, 09:20 PM
I honestly didn't think blue font was necessary
It wasn't, tbh... was just commenting in general. :lol
SnakeBoy
08-29-2018, 09:23 PM
It wasn't, tbh... was just commenting in general. :lol
Oh okay, but you have to admit that something working before it breaks and then working after it is fixed seems suspicious.
Winehole23
08-29-2018, 09:27 PM
nm
Winehole23
08-29-2018, 09:28 PM
x2
SnakeBoy
08-29-2018, 09:30 PM
Nevermind
Winehole23
08-29-2018, 09:33 PM
,,,
ElNono
08-29-2018, 09:34 PM
Oh okay, but you have to admit that something working before it breaks and then working after it is fixed seems suspicious.
I happen to work with this stuff a lot, tbh... not sure what hosting place was this, but even amazon sometimes will go down at times. Smaller shops sometimes find they have a virus, install new equipment, etc.
Without more details of what transpired, it's hard to tell.
SnakeBoy
08-29-2018, 09:43 PM
I happen to work with this stuff a lot, tbh... not sure what hosting place was this, but even amazon sometimes will go down at times. Smaller shops sometimes find they have a virus, install new equipment, etc.
Without more details of what transpired, it's hard to tell.
:lol
I honestly didn't think blue font was necessary
ElNono
08-29-2018, 11:49 PM
:lol
I honestly didn't think blue font was necessary
:lol
SnakeBoy
08-30-2018, 12:26 AM
I happen to work with this stuff a lot, tbh... not sure what hosting place was this, but even amazon sometimes will go down at times. Smaller shops sometimes find they have a virus, install new equipment, etc.
Without more details of what transpired, it's hard to tell.
Sounds like he had some fucked up code that was affecting their system
On Sunday afternoon after posting his most recent cartoon post titled “Ten Reasons Not to Mourn McCain” his website was taken down for over 8 hours indicating that apparently he had some code that was “bloated” and said they needed to rectify it unless they rectified and it didn’t make sense as to how it worked earlier and suddenly didn’t . He later found out that the problem was his John McCain cartoon .
and they don't know code bloat is a real thing :lol
ElNono
08-30-2018, 02:12 AM
Sounds like he had some fucked up code that was affecting their system
and they don't know code bloat is a real thing :lol
Yeah, it doesn't strike me as a tech savvy comment :lol
Chris
08-30-2018, 07:51 PM
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Winehole23
08-31-2018, 02:32 AM
frail conservative snowflakes struggling to find a friendly ledge.
good luck, special snowflakes!
Isitjustme?
08-31-2018, 04:32 AM
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No choice but to wallow in victimhood now..as if you werent doing that already 24/7
Chris
09-20-2018, 08:02 PM
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ElNono
09-20-2018, 08:46 PM
lol fake news
Chris
09-20-2018, 08:53 PM
lol nah
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ElNono
09-20-2018, 08:54 PM
yes fake news
Pavlov
09-21-2018, 12:26 AM
:lol Chris falls for it every time.
ElNono
09-21-2018, 04:26 AM
Google employees discussed how they could tweak the company's search-related functions to show users how to contribute to pro-immigration organizations and contact lawmakers and government agencies, the WSJ said. The ideas were not implemented.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-google-travelban/google-staff-discussed-tweaking-search-results-to-counter-travel-ban-wsj-idUSKCN1M103O
Verdict: fake news
Winehole23
09-21-2018, 10:44 PM
Reuters: Facebook teams up with the two-party duopoly to beat FAKE NEWS from abroad
The largest social network, under intense pressure to combat propaganda, said it would work abroad with the International Republican Institute and the National Democratic Institute, created in the 1980s and funded by the U.S. government to promote democratic processes. The institutes have informal ties to their namesake U.S. parties.
The partnerships, disclosed by company executives on a call with reporters, were among a slew of announcements from Facebook on election integrity ahead of major contests in Brazil next month and the United States in November.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-elections/facebook-expands-fake-election-news-fight-but-falsehoods-still-rampant-idUSKCN1LZ2XY
Winehole23
09-21-2018, 10:45 PM
PayPal cuts off Alex Jones:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-paypal-hldg-infowars/paypal-ends-business-dealings-with-alex-joness-infowars-idUSKCN1M12NT
Chris
09-22-2018, 04:29 PM
James Woods banned from Twitter for this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnoeBP_U8AE_5E7.jpg:large
Spurtacular
09-22-2018, 04:34 PM
James Woods banned from Twitter for this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnoeBP_U8AE_5E7.jpg:large
Only a matter of time before they ban Trump, tbh.
Spurtacular
09-22-2018, 04:35 PM
PayPal cuts off Alex Jones:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-paypal-hldg-infowars/paypal-ends-business-dealings-with-alex-joness-infowars-idUSKCN1M12NT
Fascism. Corporations trying to pick the winners and losers.
Chris
09-22-2018, 04:37 PM
Only a matter of time before they ban Trump, tbh.
Trump is generating traffic and revenue for them, I doubt that.
Spurtacular
09-22-2018, 04:41 PM
Trump is generating traffic and revenue for them, I doubt that.
Twitter is part of the corporate web. If they come together and decide it's in their interest to ban Trump, it'll happen.
Spurtacular
09-22-2018, 04:43 PM
James Woods banned from Twitter for this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnoeBP_U8AE_5E7.jpg:large
:lol You staying home, cuck Blake?
ElNono
09-22-2018, 05:47 PM
James Woods banned from Twitter for this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnoeBP_U8AE_5E7.jpg:large
fake news, again
Spurminator
09-22-2018, 05:52 PM
James Woods banned from Twitter for this
One of Chrisbot's imaginary friends gone. :cry
ElNono
09-22-2018, 05:53 PM
One of Chrisbot's imaginary friends gone. :cry
He's not banned
Spurminator
09-22-2018, 05:54 PM
He's not banned
Oh, good!
Winehole23
09-23-2018, 01:29 AM
outside the box thinking:
Earlier this year, Logic magazine editor Ben Tarnoff suggested (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/14/tech-big-data-capitalism-give-wealth-back-to-people) nationalizing collective data reserves, contracting private companies to refine them into profitable forms (presumably the same platforms that do this today) through production sharing agreements, and depositing revenue into a sovereign wealth fund—similar to the Alaska Permanent Fund—which would pay annual dividends on the basis of citizenship.
https://thebaffler.com/latest/socialized-media-malmgren
Winehole23
09-23-2018, 01:07 PM
the White House rediscovers antitrust law -- to go after Trump's putative enemies.
The White House is considering a draft executive order for President Donald Trump that would instruct federal antitrust and law enforcement agencies to open probes into the practices of Alphabet Inc.’s Google, Facebook Inc., and other social media companies.https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/2018/09/22/draft-order-for-trump-would-crack-down-on-google-facebook#gs.Tq8AQ5Q
Mikeanaro
09-25-2018, 10:12 PM
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Winehole23
09-25-2018, 10:22 PM
Fascism. Corporations trying to pick the winners and losers.
Twitter FB and Youtube don't owe you anything.
Winehole23
09-25-2018, 10:23 PM
your pathetic contribution here only underscores the point
Nathan89
09-25-2018, 11:35 PM
Only a matter of time before they ban Trump, tbh.
I wish tbh. I'd love to see the shitstorm.
Spurtacular
09-26-2018, 12:08 AM
Twitter FB and Youtube don't owe you anything.
:cry The social contract matters, except when it doesn't :cry
Winehole23
09-26-2018, 12:19 AM
what social contract? that private companies owe you a platform to be a hateful jackhole?
FrostKing
09-26-2018, 12:35 AM
what social contract? that private companies owe you a platform to be a hateful jackhole?
"Hateful" is in the eye of the beholder
These companies didn't become successful or wealthy because of their "inclusion and diversity". These SJW CEO's (for example Nike) are the equivalent of the Kardashian sister stepping into wealth and attempting to seek social change.
Spurtacular
09-26-2018, 12:41 AM
what social contract? that private companies owe you a platform to be a hateful jackhole?
:cry The social contract doesn't apply to big faceless corporations :cry
Winehole23
09-26-2018, 12:44 AM
"Hateful" is in the eye of the beholder.It is.
Read the terms of service. Private companies aren't required to to include people who don't follow the rules.
Don't like it? Don't sign the terms of service. Find another platform that suits you better.
Winehole23
09-26-2018, 12:45 AM
if you do sign, you limited yourself contractually
FrostKing
09-26-2018, 12:47 AM
It is.
Read the terms of service. Private companies aren't required to to include people who don't follow the rules.
Don't like it? Don't sign the terms of service. Find another platform that suits you better.
Why do we belittle companies today that were Nazi collaborators?
Winehole23
09-26-2018, 12:54 AM
:cry The social contract doesn't apply to big faceless corporations :cryyou agreed not to be a hateful dickhole when you signed the terms of service.
that's the contract you and Alex Jones both signed. what did the contract you signed promise you?
Winehole23
09-26-2018, 12:56 AM
Why do we belittle companies today that were Nazi collaborators?Twitter and Youtube are Nazis for 86ing Alex Jones?
Go ahead, connect the dots, I'm all ears.
FrostKing
09-26-2018, 12:57 AM
Twitter and Youtube are Nazis for 86ing Alex Jones?
Go ahead, connect the dots, I'm all ears.
They are 86ing them for ideological reasons. Nazi collaborators were also supporting an ideology
Winehole23
09-26-2018, 01:04 AM
weak
Alex Jones got booted for defaming and harassing survivors of a mass killing, among other things.
Call it ideological if you like, it put Alex Jones afoul of rules he agreed to when he signed up.
Spurtacular
09-26-2018, 01:05 AM
you agreed not to be a hateful dickhole when you signed the terms of service.
that's the contract you and Alex Jones both signed. what did the contract you signed promise you?
:lol Fascist trying to justify his fascism.
Winehole23
09-26-2018, 01:07 AM
Derp thinks it's fascism to be held accountable for contractual limitations he agreed to.
Spurtacular
09-26-2018, 01:08 AM
Derp thinks it's fascism to be held accountable for contractual limitations he agreed to.
The Jews were hateful and deserving of relegation, too. Just ask Hitler.
FrostKing
09-26-2018, 01:09 AM
weak
Alex Jones got booted for defaming and harassing survivors of a mass killing, among other things.
Call it ideological if you like, it put Alex Jones afoul of rules he agreed to when he signed up.
Paypal pulling sponsorship for such behavior makes perfect sense. Banning him doesn't unless he was physically threatening them or calling for harm to be done.
ElNono
09-26-2018, 01:15 AM
People need to understand that things like "1st Amendment", "facism", etc are directly connected to government.
A private company can generally do as they please and/or up to whatever collective bargaining agreement they agreed to (if one is in place).
Otherwise, a guy like the POTUS could sue CNN claiming he's being censored because they don't show his speeches, for example, or only show partial speeches.
It just doesn't work like that. Censorship only relates to government.
ElNono
09-26-2018, 01:15 AM
Wow, I spotted FromWayDowntown lurking... hello! if you're just passing by!
Winehole23
09-26-2018, 01:19 AM
The Jews were hateful and deserving of relegation, too. Just ask Hitler.Twitter isn't Hitler. Unlike German chancellors, it possesses zero political force to eliminate or silence anyone.
Winehole23
09-26-2018, 01:22 AM
Paypal pulling sponsorship for such behavior makes perfect sense. Banning him doesn't unless he was physically threatening them or calling for harm to be done.so, why is Paypal required to do business with an obnoxious shithead who defames and bullies people whose kids got shot at school?
FrostKing
09-26-2018, 01:25 AM
so, why is Paypal required to do business with an obnoxious shithead who defames and bullies people whose kids got shot at school?
I am wondering why they are making Alex Jones out to be some sort of lesson or example. I imagine he is not the only person with a Paypal account that made public statements about that shooting.
ElNono
09-26-2018, 01:29 AM
You even have Congress running hearings about fake news:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/facebook-twitter-face-congressional-hearings-on-political-bias-fake-news
Why wouldn't these companies react to that if it gets them in trouble?
Winehole23
09-26-2018, 01:39 AM
I am wondering why they are making Alex Jones out to be some sort of lesson or example. I imagine he is not the only person with a Paypal account that made public statements about that shooting.the law is the same way. if it tried to enforce the rules across the board, it would run put of resources and we would run out of patience with it. expecting consistent, comprehensive enforcement of rules isn't realistic.
Spurtacular
09-26-2018, 01:46 AM
Twitter isn't Hitler. Unlike German chancellors, it possesses zero political force to eliminate or silence anyone.
:lol Pretending it's just twitter.
:lol Still justifying your fascism.
Winehole23
09-26-2018, 01:52 AM
I don't think that word means what you think it means, but go ahead, explain how Twitter banning Alex Jones for being an asshole is the equivalent of Mussolini.
Spurtacular
09-26-2018, 01:58 AM
I don't think that word means what you think it means, but go ahead, explain how Twitter banning Alex Jones for being an asshole is the equivalent of Mussolini.
Equivalent is your word. How 'bout you tell us what you think Alex Jones did that is so bad that you need to silence him.
Winehole23
09-26-2018, 02:01 AM
I have neither the desire nor the ability to silence Alex Jones.
How is Twitter banning Alex Jones fascism?
Nathan89
09-26-2018, 02:24 AM
Anyone concerned with big tech needs to take their time/money/usage elsewhere. I've personally switched to three other services. The only thing you can control is what you use. I know a great deal of you complaining take zero action. That's not an effective strategy tbh.
Winehole23
09-30-2018, 08:58 AM
Tim Berners-Lee on a new platform, Solid, that will give users a choice about where their personal data is stored.
In 2009, I said, “The web as I envisaged it we have not seen yet.” That was because people were using the web just for documents, not for the data of a big web-wide computer. Since then, we have seen a wave of open data, but not of read-write data. For example, much open government data is produced through a one-way pipeline, so we can only view it. With Solid, it becomes a read-write web where users can interact and innovate, collaborate and share.
Meanwhile though, there is a wave of concern, and related energy, desperate for change. People want to have a web they can trust. People want apps that help them do what they want and need to do — without spying on them. Apps that don’t have an ulterior motive of distracting them with propositions to buy this or that. People will pay for this kind of quality and assurance.
https://medium.com/@timberners_lee/one-small-step-for-the-web-87f92217d085
Winehole23
09-30-2018, 10:31 AM
how it works:
https://solid.inrupt.com/how-it-works
Winehole23
10-09-2018, 10:30 AM
Facebook lobbying chief attends hearing, hosts Kavanaugh confirmation party:
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/410457-facebook-executive-hosted-kavanaugh-confirmation-celebration
boutons_deux
10-09-2018, 10:32 AM
Let’s be sure to keep an eye on the
rampaging pervasive authoritarianism of this regime.
This week, Facebook revealed that Trump’s DOJ had issued it a very broad subpoena
“demanding the private account information of potentially thousands of Facebook users
in three separate search warrants served on the social media giant,” according to CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/politics/facebook-anti-administration-activists/index.html).
“The warrants
specifically target the accounts of three Facebook users
who are described by their attorneys as ‘anti-administration activists :lol
who have spoken out at organized events, :lol
and
who are generally very critical of this administration’s policies.’” :lol
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/bre...e+Raw+Story%29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-donald-trump-abusive-boyfriend-style-conservative-politics/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)
The criminals! Lock 'em up!
Nbadan
10-09-2018, 11:55 PM
Someone is turning up the facism but it ain't the Dems...
We got Neo Nazi in Charlottsville...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do6I4JEW4AEnOmM.jpg
Also: Neo-Nazi Who Attacked Amtrak Train Revealed As Unite The Right Participant
Spurtacular
10-09-2018, 11:58 PM
Someone is turning up the facism but it ain't the Dems...
We got Neo Nazi in Charlottsville...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do6I4JEW4AEnOmM.jpg
Also: Neo-Nazi Who Attacked Amtrak Train Revealed As Unite The Right Participant
Yea, a couple guys with shields is way worse than Diane Feinstein being worth $77 million on a govt. salary.
Nbadan
10-10-2018, 12:07 AM
Relax Francis....Her old man owns a private equity firm.....
dbestpro
10-10-2018, 12:48 AM
Yea, a couple guys with shields is way worse than Diane Feinstein being worth $77 million on a govt. salary.
Truth nuke.
Pavlov
10-10-2018, 02:44 AM
Yea, a couple guys with shields is way worse than Diane Feinstein being worth $77 million on a govt. salary.Neo-nazis are much worse than Feinstein you dumbass.
ElNono
10-10-2018, 04:49 AM
Yea, a couple guys with shields is way worse than Diane Feinstein being worth $77 million on a govt. salary.
:lol what's fascist about that?
let's call a spade a spade though, two wrongs never make a right
Will Hunting
10-10-2018, 06:22 AM
Yea, a couple guys with shields is way worse than Diane Feinstein being worth $77 million on a govt. salary.
:lmao Diane Feinsteins wealth comes from the private equity firm her husband owns, not her government salary. You are a special breed of stupid.
boutons_deux
10-10-2018, 06:42 AM
Yea, a couple guys with shields is way worse than Diane Feinstein being worth $77 million on a govt. salary.
goddamn, you people are fucking stupid
Trash and his entire cabinet on govt salaries and worth $Bs
Nearly every salaried member of Congress is a multi-millionaire (plutocracy)
But DiFi's wealth pisses off YOU PEOPLE :lol
Winehole23
10-11-2018, 10:39 AM
will the dirty Dems stop at nothing?
1050004211755360256
Winehole23
10-11-2018, 10:43 AM
now, with the help of elite Jews in the media, they've brainwashed Taylor Swift:
“Like most other white women, she’s Jew controlled garbage,” lamented a poster beginning a thread about Swift’s endorsement on 4Chan (http://boards.4chan.org/pol//thread/188560446). “Finally the jew brainwashing is complete,” sighed another. Posters generally seemed to agree that Swift’s sea-change was a result of a decision made on high by Jewish media members and agents, while another helpfully linked to a file titled, simply, “F**kJews.”Read more: https://forward.com/schmooze/411760/neo-nazis-blame-the-jews-for-taylor-swift-endorsing-democrats/
johnsmith
10-11-2018, 10:53 AM
will the dirty Dems stop at nothing?
1050004211755360256
Wait....is that a real tweet?
Winehole23
10-11-2018, 11:53 AM
yep.
Dems don't control the Congress the Judiciary or the White House, but their DEEP STATE embeds do control the weather and have weaponized it to depress voting in the southeastern US.
Pavlov
10-11-2018, 04:07 PM
Welp.
f5FD5cr2H5A
spurraider21
10-11-2018, 04:09 PM
damn i have to turn elsewhere for WWI flamethrower info
Winehole23
10-12-2018, 12:33 AM
Facebook said Thursday that it has purged more than 800 U.S publishers and accounts for flooding users with politically oriented content that violated the company's spam policies http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-facebook-political-messages-purge-20181011-story.html
Will Hunting
10-12-2018, 01:02 AM
Wait....is that a real tweet?
Yep. “weather modification” was a big cuckservative conspiracy theory when Obama was president.
ElNono
10-12-2018, 01:06 AM
There's no way that's not some kind of mental disease, tbh
Winehole23
10-13-2018, 10:04 AM
Google tergiversates:
In a letter newly obtained (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5001428-Pichai-Response-to-Senators-Regarding-China.html) by The Intercept, Pichai told a bipartisan group of six senators that Google could have “broad benefits inside and outside of China,” but said he could not share details about the censored search engine because it “remains unclear” whether the company “would or could release a search service” in the country.
Pichai’s letter contradicts the company’s search engine chief, Ben Gomes, who informed (https://theintercept.com/2018/10/09/google-china-censored-search-engine/) staff during a private meeting that the company was aiming to release the platform in China between January and April 2019. Gomes told employees working on the Chinese search engine that they should get it ready to be “brought off the shelf and quickly deployed.”
According to sources and confidential Google documents, the search engine for China, codenamed Dragonfly, was designed to comply with the strict censorship regime imposed by China’s ruling Communist Party. It would restrict people’s access to broad categories of information, blacklisting phrases like “human rights,” “student protest,” and “Nobel Prize.”
The Chinese platform was designed to link people’s searches to their phone number (https://theintercept.com/2018/10/09/google-china-censored-search-engine/), track their location, and then share (https://theintercept.com/2018/09/21/google-suppresses-memo-revealing-plans-to-closely-track-search-users-in-china/)t (https://theintercept.com/2018/09/21/google-suppresses-memo-revealing-plans-to-closely-track-search-users-in-china/)hat data (https://theintercept.com/2018/09/21/google-suppresses-memo-revealing-plans-to-closely-track-search-users-in-china/) with a Chinese partner company. This would make it easy to track individual users’ searches, raising concerns that any person in China using Google to seek out information banned by the government could be at risk of interrogation or detention if security agencies were to obtain copies of their search records.
https://theintercept.com/2018/10/12/google-search-engine-china-censorship/
Winehole23
10-13-2018, 10:05 AM
"if we had a plan we would be happy to discuss it"
“Google has been open about our desire to increase our ability to serve users in China and other countries. We are thoughtfully considering a variety of options for how to offer services in China in a way that is consistent with our mission. … [W]e can confirm that our work will continue to reflect our best assessment of how best to serve people around the world, as set forth in our mission and our code of conduct. Of course, should we have something to announce in the future, we would be more than happy to brief you and your staff on those plans.”
Winehole23
10-18-2018, 01:15 PM
regulation could benefit monopoly digital platforms:
It will be difficult to limit the company’s power. Under what has been called “surveillance capitalism,” social media companies that provide free products always have an incentive to violate privacy. That is how Facebook makes money. Because Facebook profits by making more personal data available for use by third parties, its business model points in the direction of abuse. In the case of its 2011 FTC agreement, Facebook appears to have simply sloughed off a legal obligation, preferring to risk fines rather than accept an impediment to growth. There is little reason to think it won’t make the same choice again.2 (https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/10/25/facebook-autocracy-app/#fn-2)
Regulation might make Facebook still more powerful. Network effects, which make a service like Facebook more valuable to users as it grows larger, incline social media companies toward monopoly. The costs of legal compliance for rules like the GDPR, which can be ruinous for smaller start-ups, tend to lock in the power of incumbents even more. Unlike smaller companies, Facebook also has the ability to engage in regulatory arbitrage by moving parts of its business to the cities, states, and countries willing to offer it the largest subsidies and the lightest regulatory touch; it recently shifted its base of operations away from Ireland, where it had gone to avoid taxes, so that 1.5 billion users in Africa, Asia, Australia, and Latin America wouldn’t be covered by the GDPR. Zuckerberg and Sandberg have both said they expect regulation and would welcome the right kind—presumably regulation compatible with more users, more engagement, and more data.
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/10/25/facebook-autocracy-app/
Chris
10-19-2018, 06:00 PM
1053067049793142786
Pavlov
10-19-2018, 06:03 PM
1053067049793142786Chris, are you afraid Black Reporter actually wants to impose martial law on the White House?
Yes or no.
Chris
10-19-2018, 06:05 PM
Chris, are you afraid Black Reporter actually wants to impose martial law on the White House?
Yes or no.
Yes, I'm terrified of the Blacks.
monosylab1k
10-19-2018, 06:12 PM
Yes, I'm terrified of the Blacks.
We know. Post that npc meme now, chop chop.
Pavlov
10-19-2018, 06:16 PM
We know. Post that npc meme now, chop chop.I'M EDGY LIKE PROUD BOYS
Chris
10-19-2018, 06:21 PM
We know. Post that npc meme now, chop chop.
Someone doesn't like their new nickname :lol
monosylab1k
10-19-2018, 06:24 PM
Someone doesn't like their new nickname :lol
I enjoy that meme a lot tbh. Your adoption of it was incredibly predictable tho :lmao
Spurtacular
10-20-2018, 12:32 PM
:lmao Diane Feinsteins wealth comes from the private equity firm her husband owns, not her government salary. You are a special breed of stupid.
Lots of money in govt. connections.
Winehole23
10-21-2018, 10:59 AM
that will happen with a surveillance based model of service
The Saudi Arabian government (https://www.vox.com/2018/10/19/18002086/saudi-arabia-admits-jamal-khashoggi-killed-turkey-trump) enlisted a Twitter army to silence its critics online. It groomed a Twitter (https://www.vox.com/2018/10/19/17990946/twitter-russian-trolls-bots-election-tampering) employee in the United States to try to get him to spy on certain accounts. And an American-based consultancy company helped the government identify and target dissidents on Twitter who were later punished and silenced.https://www.vox.com/2018/10/20/18003792/saudi-arabia-mckinsey-twitter-khashoggi
Winehole23
10-21-2018, 11:44 AM
who are Facebook, Twitter and Google carrying water for?
basically any political power that complains anywhere they do business.
the content of websites and media organizations is being judged and suppressed if it is considered radical or is found guilty of fomenting discontent. https://therealnews.com/stories/social-media-purge-silences-alternative-media-outlets-that-had-millions-of-likes-2-2
Chris
10-25-2018, 06:48 PM
1055487146444828672
ElNono
10-25-2018, 06:52 PM
Talk about facism...
ElNono
10-25-2018, 06:53 PM
You could make that phrase with journals from a century ago, newspapers of half a century ago, or even CNN and Fox in the last few decades...
Winehole23
10-25-2018, 06:57 PM
Yep.
Conservatives want the nanny state to police digital platforms.
What could go wrong?
Chris
10-25-2018, 07:00 PM
"Free speech is fundamental to the health of our great country, and Congress should treat it with the respect it deserves."
ElNono
10-25-2018, 07:06 PM
Exactly. It’s in the Constitution to make sure Congress can’t mess with it.
ElNono
10-25-2018, 07:08 PM
Heck, political speech has been historically even more protected.
Chris
10-25-2018, 09:43 PM
https://twitter.com/FoxBusiness/status/1055650220715823104
Winehole23
10-26-2018, 12:27 AM
Chris changes the subject and runs away...
Winehole23
10-26-2018, 09:49 AM
you car may be spying on you, but rest easy, GM promises it never sold the data
On September 12th, GM's director of global digital transformation Saejin Park gave a presentation to the Association of National Advertisers in which he described how the company had secretly gathered data on the radio-listening habits of 90,000 GM owners in LA and Chicago for three months in 2017, tracking what stations they listened to and for how long, and where they were at the time; this data was covertly exfiltrated from the cars by means of their built-in wifi.
The company says it never sold this data, but the presentation to the advertising execs was clearly designed to elicit bids for it.
https://boingboing.net/2018/10/23/dont-touch-that-dial.html
Winehole23
10-26-2018, 09:53 AM
Amazon is not your friend:
While Amazon plays the leading role, the report also details the involvement of companies including Peter Thiel’s Palantir, NEC, and Thomson Reuters in storing, transferring, and analyzing data on both undocumented residents and U.S. citizens. The U.S. government is moving its databases from federal facilities to cloud providers, especially Amazon Web Services (AWS), raising concerns about accountability.
“There is a transfer of discretion and power from the public sector to the private sector in the form of these contracted technological services,”
https://www.fastcompany.com/90255355/the-surveillance-state-is-outsourced-to-silicon-valley-says-report
Winehole23
10-26-2018, 09:57 AM
Neither is Facebook:
The social media platform was fined by the UK’s Information Commissioner’s Office for the “serious” data breach, which affected over 80M users.
The ICO’s investigation found that as a result of Facebook allowing personal data to be given to app developers, Aleksandr Kogan and his company GSR was able to harvest the data with some of this information shared with organizations such as Cambridge Analytica parent company SCL.
It noted that event after the misuse of the data was discovered in December 2015, Facebook “did not do enough” to ensure those who continued to hold it had taken adequate and timely remedial action.
https://deadline.com/2018/10/facebook-fined-cambridge-analytica-1202489234/
Spurminator
10-26-2018, 09:58 AM
Facebook Fined $645K
:lol
Winehole23
10-26-2018, 10:02 AM
a slap on the wrist for a company that makes $42B a year
Spurminator
10-26-2018, 10:08 AM
It's like fining an NFL linebacker $1.25 for his 7th targeting penalty of the season.
Chris
11-02-2018, 04:44 PM
1058470073743147008
General Virtue
11-03-2018, 01:05 AM
1055487146444828672
Chris
11-15-2018, 09:21 PM
1062911573910532098
Winehole23
11-15-2018, 09:46 PM
Have you seen the Trump/Sansa Stark fanfic by Posobiec?
Very hard to "unsee", proceed with all due caution.
DarrinS
11-15-2018, 09:53 PM
Have you seen the Trump/Sansa Stark fanfic by Posobiec?
Very hard to "unsee", proceed with all due caution.
I guess you have.
Winehole23
11-16-2018, 12:21 AM
I guess you haven't.
Pussy!
Chris
11-20-2018, 09:41 PM
1064986707706155008
Chris
11-21-2018, 06:53 PM
1065382075870703616
Chris
11-21-2018, 10:44 PM
1065448283441586176
Pavlov
11-21-2018, 10:53 PM
:lmao Chrisbot working overtime
Spurminator
11-21-2018, 11:13 PM
LMAO @ Loomer. What a stupid bitch.
Chris
11-22-2018, 01:23 AM
Facebook looks like it's preparing for war with Trump after hiring a top Department of Justice antitrust lawyer
https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-hires-doj-lawyer-kate-patchen-on-trump-antitrust-concerns-2018-11
Chris
11-24-2018, 09:35 PM
1066443249597014016
Pavlov
11-24-2018, 09:38 PM
1066443249597014016Are you scared, Chris?
boutons_deux
11-24-2018, 09:49 PM
Are you scared, Chris?
white prick, passive asshole, getting punched out by a fat lady! :lol
Chris
11-25-2018, 06:39 PM
1066709941145071616
Spurtacular
11-25-2018, 06:43 PM
1062911573910532098
The media doesn't worry about building trust. They're just tools of NWO.
Pavlov
11-25-2018, 06:43 PM
1066709941145071616'lil Ben should go on Gab
They're really nice to Jews there.
Chris
11-25-2018, 06:46 PM
The media doesn't worry about building trust. They're just tools of NWO.
Controversy creates cash. Thank God we have independent journalists on a public platform. (except for the ones who got de-platformed and demonetized for saying the wrong things)
Spurtacular
11-25-2018, 06:49 PM
Controversy creates cash. Thank God we have independent journalists on a public platform. (except for the ones who got de-platformed and demonetized for saying the wrong things)
Much more than that; if we're talking about fake news, we're not scrutinizing the oligarchs.
ElNono
11-26-2018, 03:40 AM
What's the conspiracy here now?
Chris
11-26-2018, 05:20 PM
1067120602581016576
Pavlov
11-26-2018, 05:23 PM
1067120602581016576He should join Gab.
He isn't Jewish, is he?
Chris
11-26-2018, 07:59 PM
1067198853244440586
Chris
11-27-2018, 02:52 PM
1067417365430902784
Spurminator
11-27-2018, 03:43 PM
Please click this Twitter tweet I found on Twitter to read about how evil Twitter is.
Splits
11-29-2018, 05:16 PM
1065382075870703616
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1068245800822743040
lol
spurraider21
11-29-2018, 05:23 PM
:lmao
Blake
11-29-2018, 05:25 PM
The media doesn't worry about building trust. They're just tools of NWO.
:lol derpspiracy
Blake
11-29-2018, 05:37 PM
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1068245800822743040
lol
Lol
spurraider21
11-29-2018, 05:49 PM
she clearly has trump derangement syndrome
Spurtacular
11-29-2018, 06:29 PM
:lol derpspiracy
Yea, Amazon lords over Washington Post out of the goodness of their essence.
:lmao Today's cuck.
Chris
11-29-2018, 06:49 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtMY6o4V4AAmE4G.jpg:large
Spurtacular
11-29-2018, 08:08 PM
1067417365430902784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=lAe8mxvV1fU
Chumpettes love their fascism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=lAe8mxvV1fU
Chumpettes love their fascism.
TBH the kid is an idiot. No hats means no hats for anyone. If he wants a debate he can join the debate team.
Spurtacular
11-29-2018, 08:19 PM
TBH the kid is an idiot. No hats means no hats for anyone. If he wants a debate he can join the debate team.
Defiance is pretty standard behavior at a high school. Sure, give him a detention. But suspend or fire the teacher for numerous violations of professionalism. Kid exposed the fascist teacher.
Also, this was a conversation in progress. I'm pretty sure that the pre-recorded argument is that the hat rule is not enforced and that is why the teacher is talking about "bending" rules. He then only enforces the rule based on his aversion to his politics, which is obviously a huge abuse of power.
FrostKing
11-29-2018, 08:22 PM
1066443249597014016
Another example of why we don't want their kind in Europe
Spurtacular
11-29-2018, 08:38 PM
^^^
Why is the dude just taking hits upside the head and doing nothing about it? Is that blake?
Chris
11-29-2018, 08:43 PM
^^^
Why is the dude just taking hits upside the head and doing nothing about it? Is that blake?
He was probably outnumbered. Didn't want to anger the mob and get stomped to death tbh
Spurtacular
11-29-2018, 08:53 PM
He was probably outnumbered. Didn't want to anger the mob and get stomped to death tbh
He's a pussy (like blake)
Chris
11-29-2018, 09:08 PM
He's a pussy (like blake)
I can respect turning the other cheek, but at least defend yourself...
I can respect turning the other cheek, but at least defend yourself...
Those two things are conflicting.
Chris
11-29-2018, 09:34 PM
Those two things are conflicting.
You can block incoming blows without doling out violence.
You can block incoming blows without doling out violence.
But that's not what "turn the other cheek" means.
pgardn
11-29-2018, 09:37 PM
Another example of why we don't want their kind in Europe
Yes.
This fairly standard in the US.
Black female Obama supporters punching white male Trump supporters.
You just stay in Krakow, Stanislav.
Chris
11-29-2018, 09:44 PM
But that's not what "turn the other cheek" means.
Nitpicking a bit here tbh if someone is throwing haymakers, I'm not going to turn the other cheek. Turning the other cheek means you don't seek retribution and also forgiving the aggressor. This man showed incredible restraint.
Chris
11-30-2018, 02:53 PM
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Pavlov
11-30-2018, 03:05 PM
1068423894262923264It's ok when koriwhat does it tho.
koriwhat
11-30-2018, 03:44 PM
It's ok when koriwhat does it tho.
fuck out of here bitch. you're the only one i really want to die(because we don't need more bitches like you anyhow) so we all can finally have some real discussion here.
spurraider21
11-30-2018, 03:52 PM
she should be condemned for those comments, obviously
Pavlov
11-30-2018, 03:59 PM
fuck out of here bitch. you're the only one i really want to die(because we don't need more bitches like you anyhow) so we all can finally have some real discussion here.:lol not even trying to have me on ignore.
Chris’ Pastor
11-30-2018, 04:01 PM
I'm not going to turn the other cheek. Chris we need to have a chat.
boutons_deux
11-30-2018, 04:10 PM
How Trump Fuels the Fascist Right
President Trump makes constant use of the language and logic of the “new right,”
a toxic blend of antebellum white supremacy, twentieth-century fascism, European far-right movements of the 1970s, and today’s self-identified “alt-right.”
And his words and deeds have empowered and enabled an upsurge (https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2018/02/national-security-pros-its-time-talk-about-right-wing-extremism/146319/) of white nationalists and extremist organizations—from Atomwaffen (https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/atomwaffen-division) to the Proud Boys to the Rise Above Movement (https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-picciolini-white-supremacists-20181007-story.html)—that threatens to push the country into violent social conflict.
Amplified by social media (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/24/opinion/sunday/facebook-twitter-terrorism-extremism.html), this new right rhetoric is
inciting unstable men to violence through pipe-bomb mailings and temple shootings.
Everything about Trump’s discourse—the words he uses, the things he is willing to say, when he says them, where, how, how many times—is deliberate and intended for consumption by the new right.
When Trump repeatedly accuses (https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-signs-of-creeping-fascism-are-all-around-us/) a reporter of “racism” for questioning him about his embrace of the term “nationalist,” he is deliberately drawing from the toxic well of white supremacist discourse and directly addressing that base.
Trump’s increasing use (https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-how-did-the-term-globalist-became-an-anti-semitic-slur-blame-bannon-1.5895925) of the term “globalist” in interviews (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/29/trump_nationalism_means_i_love_the_country_im_not_ a_globalist_i_want_to_take_care_of_us_first.html) and press conferences—including to describe Jewish advisers such as Gary Cohn (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/the-origins-of-the-globalist-slur/555479/) or Republican opponents like the Koch brothers (https://www.jpost.com/American-Politics/Trump-attacks-Koch-brothers-with-antisemitic-dog-whistle-563841)—
is a knowing use of an anti-Semitic slur, in the words of the Anti-Defamation League (https://www.adl.org/resources/reports/quantifying-hate-a-year-of-anti-semitism-on-twitter#%E2%80%9Cglobalist%E2%80%9D-as-code-word-for-%E2%80%9Cjew%E2%80%9D), “a code word for Jews.”
Trump’s self-identification (https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/10/23/president-trump-nationalist-globalist-rally-sot-vpx.cnn) as a “nationalist,” especially in contrast to “globalists” like George Soros, extends a hand to white nationalists across the country.
His pointed use of the term “politically correct,” especially in the context of the Muslim ban (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/04/24/travel-ban-donald-trump-campaign-promises-president-tweets/542504002/), speaks directly to followers of far-right figures such as William Lind, author of “What is ‘Political Correctness’? (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/rec3.12258)”
a new right has emerged in America.
The central tenets of this American new right are that Christian heterosexual whites are endangered,
that the traditional nuclear family is in peril,
that “Western civilization” is in decline, and
that whites need to reassert themselves.
The main goal of the American new right, Shaw explains, is to discuss “the one topic that white conservatives are not allowed to discuss,” namely “race.”
Spencer, in his contribution to A Fair Hearing, describes the superiority of certain athletes who are “white, and not just white, but Anglo and Germanic,” with clear reference to Aryan supremacy.
A main guidepost of the new right, Shaw highlights (http://blogs.law.columbia.edu/praxis1313/bernard-e-harcourt-readings-notes-on-the-alt-right/), is that “Jews not only wield obscene levels of power in Western societies, they use that power to damage native white populations.”
“White genocide is underway,” Shaw warns, and those responsible are Jews, Muslims, leftists, and non-whites.
His last campaign ad in 2016 vilified (https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-closing-campaign-ad-seen-as-striking-anti-semitic-tones/) three opponents, all Jewish:
George Soros,
the former Federal Reserve chair Janet Yellen, and
the CEO of Goldman Sachs Lloyd Blankfein.
Last August on Twitter (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1032454567152246785?ref_src=twsrc%255Etfw%257Ctwca mp%255Etweetembed%257Ctwterm%255E10324545671522467 85&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.vox.com%252Fpolicy-and-politics%252F2018%252F8%252F23%252F17772056%25), Trump adopted (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/23/17772056/south-africa-trump-tweet-afriforum-white-farmers-violence) white nationalist propaganda that
the South African government is engaged in a genocidal campaign against white farmers.
Multiculturalism is now racist:
“‘diversity’ and ‘multiculturalism’ do not ultimately enrich white lives,” Shaw contends, “but rather tend to make white societies poorer, more dangerous, and finally unlivable for whites.”
he is carefully, skillfully, and consistently speaking directly to his hardline nationalist supporters in their exact language, making their tropes and memes his own.
Trump rehearsed (https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-signs-of-creeping-fascism-are-all-around-us/) perfectly the new right’s core argument regarding the racism of anti-racism.
a more immaculate enactment of the Faye-Friberg conceit of inverting anti-racism into racism.
Trump knows exactly what he is doing—as he does when he disparages “globalists” or Soros, mocks “political correctness,” or uses demeaning and dehumanizing expressions such as “infest (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009071403918864385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1009071403918864385&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fadm inistration%2F392977-trump-dems-want-illegal-immigrants-to-infest-our-country),” “animals (https://www.vox.com/2018/5/18/17368716/trump-animals-immigrants-illegal-ms-13),” “rapists (https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/06/politics/trump-mexico-rapists/index.html),” and “shithole (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-referred-haiti-african-countries-shithole-nations-n836946)” countries to describe immigrants and African nations.
These are deliberate fodder for his white nationalist base.
many of the new right’s cardinal texts work as dictionaries that redefine, recast, and infuse with political meaning ordinary language—what they call “metapolitical” dictionaries.
Empowered by President Trump, the new right is being dangerously radicalized.
This includes a chapter on how to “physically remove” leftists.
The language is violent and explicit.
“Physically removing leftists has gained so much traction because the idea is instinctively both logical and appealing,” Invictus writes, continuing:
The means of physically removing leftists, however, is not as simple.
While throwing commies from helicopters à la Pinochet has become the alt-right’s favorite policy proposal,
this is clearly an inefficient solution.
The Pinochet regime only executed 120 communists in this manner, and we are faced with many thousands of times this number.
President Trump is enabling extremists through what sociologists refer to as “scripted violence (https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/11/16/right-wing-extremists-are-already-threatening-violence-over-democratic-house/?utm_term=.7ae49c2f7c12).”
Speaking openly to the new right, Trump is rallying and emboldening a counterrevolutionary politics.
If the American people do not act soon, we risk being caught in a downward authoritarian spiral or violent
civil strife.
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/11/29/how-trump-fuels-the-fascist-right/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NYR%20Jeremy%20Thorpe%20Homers%20wome n%20literary%20glory&utm_content=NYR%20Jeremy%20Thorpe%20Homers%20women %20literary%20glory+CID_c78e410587d6c1b382e0677f1e 57b44b&utm_source=Newsletter&utm_term=How%20Trump%20Fuels%20the%20Fascist%20Rig ht
Chris
11-30-2018, 04:12 PM
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Chris
11-30-2018, 04:40 PM
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koriwhat
11-30-2018, 04:45 PM
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i'd rather see what the dems are hiding from us all... lets see pelosi's, waters', etc taxes considering they make like 120-140k a yr but live in mansions and are do nothings for their constituents. lets get this show on the road already! as well, i want to see all the handouts to congressional members(wasted tax $) and who was bailed out on that big list of sexual predators in office(Dems & Reps).
Chris
11-30-2018, 04:50 PM
i'd rather see what the dems are hiding from us all... lets see pelosi's, waters', etc taxes considering they make like 120-140k a yr but live in mansions and are do nothings for their constituents. lets get this show on the road already! as well, i want to see all the handouts to congressional members(wasted tax $) and who was bailed out on that big list of sexual predators in office(Dems & Reps).
Unfortunately Congress is corrupt to the gills and totally inept. People like Jason Chaffetz and Trey Gowdy realized this and moved on. We can thank a lazy and indifferent voter base for that.
spurraider21
11-30-2018, 04:52 PM
Unfortunately Congress is corrupt to the gills and totally inept. People like Jason Chaffetz and Trey Gowdy realized this and moved on. We can thank a lazy and indifferent voter base for that.
Chaffetz to Trump: Release your tax returns (https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/chaffetz-trump-tax-returns-kimono-227387)
(https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/chaffetz-trump-tax-returns-kimono-227387)
Trey Gowdy
11-30-2018, 04:57 PM
Unfortunately Congress is corrupt to the gills and totally inept. People like Jason Chaffetz and Trey Gowdy realized this and moved on. We can thank a lazy and indifferent voter base for that.
I'm not leaving Congress because of that, it's just tough to juggle being a Congressman, amateur barber, and a fluffer for gay porno shoots. I only got 2 hands!
Chris
11-30-2018, 05:03 PM
Trump already released his tax returns though. :lol Maddow made a big deal out of it, and it backfired badly on the pitchfork mob. Pelosi is as dumb as her constituents.
clambake
11-30-2018, 05:04 PM
where can i access these tax returns you speak of?
spurraider21
11-30-2018, 05:05 PM
Trump already released his tax returns though. :lol Maddow made a big deal out of it, and it backfired badly on the pitchfork mob. Pelosi is as dumb as her constituents.
:lmao low information
Chris
11-30-2018, 05:08 PM
:lmao low information
White House confirms Trump paid $38-million tax on $150-million income
https://mg.co.za/article/2017-03-15-white-house-confirms-trump-paid-38-million-tax-on-150-million-income/
:lmao
clambake
11-30-2018, 05:10 PM
wow, chris
having to service the mushroom yeti really screwed you up.
Chris
11-30-2018, 05:12 PM
wow, chris
having to service the mushroom yeti really screwed you up.
You're still thinking about Trump's dick and you think I'm screwed up :lol
clambake
11-30-2018, 05:20 PM
You're still thinking about Trump's dick and you think I'm screwed up :lol
I'm thinking about her description of the dick you swallow on the daily. i guess you could have just told us.
spurraider21
11-30-2018, 05:35 PM
White House confirms Trump paid $38-million tax on $150-million income
https://mg.co.za/article/2017-03-15-white-house-confirms-trump-paid-38-million-tax-on-150-million-income/
:lmao
trump didnt release any tax returns
:lmao chris
Chris
11-30-2018, 06:43 PM
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Pavlov
11-30-2018, 06:51 PM
1068648404643971073It's not like Trump has anything else.
Spurtacular
12-02-2018, 02:46 PM
Yet another GHWB thread deleted (hater's thread). Can't think of a better way to honor that fascist RINO. :lmao
Chris
12-06-2018, 04:00 PM
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