Democrats Looking To Ramp Up The Fascism

[midnightpulp]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1284731791803285505?s=19

"graffiti"

Winehole23

The really important thing is what does Bill Mitchell have to say about this?

[Chris]

The really important thing is what does Bill Mitchell have to say about this?

You can find him on twitter. Click on the manifying glass to activate the search engine.

[midnightpulp]

Anyhow, "Antifa" or whoever these people are destroying property are retarded. All they're doing is demonizing the movement of actual peaceful protesters who want change, destroying their neighborhoods, while giving Wingnuts an opportunity to take the moral high ground. One could argue "destroying shit is the only thing the powers-that-be understand." Nah. It just invites more of a police state.

These idiots need to get organized, need a clear goal, and need to execute it WITHOUT violence or destruction. If I were the defacto leader of this movement, I would call for boycotts of ALL corporate products, from iPhones to Nikes. Refuse to buy any new shit unless you absolute need it for survival (which you won't). Cancel netflix, amazon, instagram, and whatever else. Twitter might be a necessarily evil though to quickly communicate and advertise your movement. The hope here to to further crash the DOW and Nasdaq. Shame wingnuts into oblivion on social media. Use cancel culture wisely. Try to drive Trumpism to the fringe and don't opt back into consumerist society until Trumpism is defeated. Use peaceful civil disobedience in all major cities, stage sit-ins across the country, shun MAGAts. Door-to-door campaign for Biden (many of this lot don't like Biden, but defeating Trumpism needs to be the first goal).

None of this will happen because these people are dilettante "activists" who are hopping on a trend and pathetically want to be "a part of something" that is glamorized on twitter. There's nothing to protest really right now. Floyd's killers are locked up. They achieved their initial goals, but now they're just exhausting their sympathy capital.

[Chris]

All they're doing is demonizing the movement of actual peaceful protesters who want change


There's nothing to protest really right now.

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[midnightpulp]

https://media.tenor.com/images/0e89d47a9277e0578302489ebb95803e/tenor.gif

I worded it awkwardly. There are still many things to protest about, but right now is not the time to be protesting considering the Covid situation. I get the immense anger people had after watching Floyd's murder drove them to protest vs. protecting themselves/spreading Covid, but currently, the Floyd situation has been resolved, so further protesting about broader police reform, Trump's fascist regime, and so on should wait until Covid is handled.

[Winehole23]

Millions of people are out of work. Millions more will be evicted without a rent moratorium starting next month.

Trump's incompetent leadership on the pandemic and police murder got us here, the pressure will be on until the pandemic abates AND the economy recovers. I disagree that the protests have been unsuccessful, BLM now enjoys a roughly 65% approval rating nationwide, with similar numbers backing police reform.

Makes sense to avoid mass gatherings during a pandemic, but a fascist President, violent cops and economic deprivation piss people off. If Trump and the police don't chill out, the people won't either.

Portland rallies were dwindling steadily for weeks when Trump decided to whack the hornet's nest and start black-bagging protesters. There's responsibility on the LE side for deescalating too.

[midnightpulp]

Millions of people are out of work. Millions more will be evicted without a rent moratorium starting next month.

Trump's incompetent leadership on the pandemic and police murder got us here, the pressure will be on until the pandemic abates AND the economy recovers. I disagree that the protests have been unsuccessful, BLM now enjoys a roughly 65% approval rating nationwide, with similar numbers backing police reform.

Makes sense to avoid mass gatherings during a pandemic, but a fascist President, violent cops and economic deprivation piss people off. If Trump and the police don't chill out, the people won't either.

Portland rallies were dwindling steadily for weeks when Trump decided to whack the hornet's nest and start black-bagging protesters. There's responsibility on the LE side for deescalating too.

Oh yeah, that's definitely a reason to take to the streets, covid or no covid. Demands for a safety net should be priority, through increased taxation on the wealthy. When we needed to drum up funds for the WWII effort, marginal tax rates on the wealthiest reached like 96 percent.

And I agree the protests have been successful. I just fear they'll overplay their hand wrt rioting and that might turn people away from their cause. No one likes to see buildings burning, especially small businesses and such. Also gives the right propaganda fodder. But I understand most rioters and looters aren't part the cause and just looking to steal or destroy for the hell of it.

[Winehole23]

sounds legit

https://www.lawfareblog.com/dhs-authorizes-domestic-surveillance-protect-statues-and-monuments


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[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1284512759934267392?s=19

"graffiti"
free speech

[spurraider21]

These bitches think they have the right to boss people around, including the president.

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they have the right to free speech, including criticizing the government and the people within it :tu

[Spurtacular]

they have the right to free speech, including criticizing the government and the people within it :tu

I didn't argue they don't have free speech, philo.

It's rude. And it sure AF doesn't "respect the office".

[spurraider21]

I didn't argue they don't have free speech, philo.

It's rude. And it sure AF doesn't "respect the office".
:cry

[Spurtacular]

:cry

A congressmen trying to boss around POTUS is low brow. Defend it if if you're TDS is that bad.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1285642333397098497?s=19

$$$$

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1285642333397098497?s=19

$$$$
is that the only thing he said and the only reason for his termination?

[Chris]

is that the only thing he said and the only reason for his termination?

do some research and lmk what you find out

[spurraider21]

do some research and lmk what you find out
having that kind of curiosity might be useful before exhibiting bot-like behavior

[spurraider21]

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[Chris]

having that kind of curiosity might be useful before exhibiting bot-like behavior

couldn't find anything? oh well

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/status/1285642333397098497?s=19

$$$$Baseball.

Is it that difficult to get even basic facts straight?

[ChumpDumper]

do some research and lmk what you find outSounds like it probably isn't.

[Chris]

Baseball.

Is it that difficult to get even basic facts straight?

oooooooooooooooooooo.GOTHEEM!

[Chris]

Sounds like it probably isn't.

lmk what you find out :tu

[ChumpDumper]

lmk what you find out :tuI did.

[ElNono]

having that kind of curiosity might be useful before exhibiting bot-like behavior

:lol

[Chris]

I did.

*Chump folds

[ChumpDumper]

*Chump foldsYou said to let you know.

I let you know.

[Chris]

You said to let you know.

I let you know.

You didn't do shit.

[ChumpDumper]

You didn't do shit.I did exactly what you requested.

[Winehole23]

ex-DHS chief Tom Ridge


“The department was established to protect America from the ever-present threat of global terrorism. It was not established to be the president’s personal militia,” ex-Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said during an interview (https://www.siriusxm.com/clips/clip/a9914a41-78d6-4402-8150-b8f14a44945b/715571de-a566-4492-ba13-bbe09f516300) with Sirius XM host Michael Smerconish.
Ridge, the former two-term Republican Pennsylvania governor, who was tapped by President George W. Bush to lead the domestic security agency two decades ago, said “it would be a cold day in hell before I would consent to an uninvited, unilateral intervention into one of my cities.”
https://www.penncapital-star.com/civil-rights-social-justice/former-gov-dhs-boss-ridge-itd-be-a-cold-day-in-hell-before-hed-let-uninvited-federal-agents-into-pa/

[Winehole23]

great thread blow by blow on the DHS "proactive arrest" of Mark Pettibone in Portland

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[Winehole23]

Hot take: it's a myth that police provide public safety.

They mostly hassle people over misdemeanor bullshit of dubious public safety value and respond to complaints with an increasingly shitty clearance rate for really bad crimes.

[Winehole23]

LE's traditional job is to harass and incarcerate various undesirables: nonwhites, homeless and mentally infirm. That it does very well.

LE is also deployed, as we're seeing right now, to quash dissent and intimidate journalists.

[RandomGuy]

Hot take: it's a myth that police provide public safety.

They mostly hassle people over misdemeanor bullshit of dubious public safety value and respond to complaints with an increasingly shitty clearance rate for really bad crimes.


A new FBI report found that roughly 40 percent of the nation’s slayings went unsolved last year.

The bureau looked at 2017 crime and arrest data from 16,000 law enforcement agencies across the country and found that only 61.6 percent of reported murders were “cleared.”
https://nypost.com/2018/09/25/a-shocking-number-of-us-murders-went-unsolved-last-year/

2018

[RandomGuy]

Most Violent Crimes in the US Go Unsolved
According to FBI data, only 45 percent of violent crimes lead to arrest and prosecution.
https://fee.org/articles/most-violent-crimes-in-the-us-go-unsolved/

Hell even the Mises (snicker) institute knows this shit.

[RandomGuy]

Most Violent Crimes in the US Go Unsolved
According to FBI data, only 45 percent of violent crimes lead to arrest and prosecution.
https://fee.org/articles/most-violent-crimes-in-the-us-go-unsolved/

Hell even the Mises (snicker) institute knows this shit.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/1285767358875918336?s=19

:tu

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1286860380741021696?s=19

"graffiti"

[ChumpDumper]

:lol pussies

[ElNono]

Important to point out that the Mayor is not onboard with that ordinance, but can't prevent from taking effect...

https://seattle.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=F&ID=8648595&GUID=2761F0E6-FF40-47F2-B431-206751CE996A

Another twist is that there's already a ruling by a federal judge from over a month now that already put a restraining order on the Seattle Police from using the same non-lethal tools (mentioned in the link above).

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1286860380741021696?s=19

"graffiti"

:lol Women police chiefs.

[Winehole23]

Unlike the deployment of troops to a US border, the deployment of federal troops inside American cities threatens to fulfill its own fantasy, turning a dark and opportunistic fable spun by the White House into a daunting new reality in which violent clashes really do play out in the streets and unaccountable federal law enforcement officers really do round up and detain US citizens.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/25/trump-federal-agents-portland-ploy-election

[Chris]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/25/trump-federal-agents-portland-ploy-election

"graffiti"

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1287048363976916994?s=19

"graffiti"

[Spurminator]

This thread has aged like a nice glass of milk left in an attic.

[Spurtacular]

This thread has aged like a nice glass of milk left in an attic.

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[spurraider21]

Bad person commits crime and is arrested does not mean fascism :lmao

[Winehole23]

"graffiti"Fascist Federal goons gonna lose

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1286860380741021696?s=19

"graffiti"How many times do you see the word "graffiti" here? This letter furnished a pretext for Trump's fascist paramilitary surge in Democratic strongholds.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/07/16/acting-secretary-wolf-condemns-rampant-long-lasting-violence-portland

[Winehole23]

look how big the area of dire social unrest is

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[ChumpDumper]

look how big the area of dire social unrest is

1286692952090144770DID YOU SEE THE TRASH FIRE THO?

[Chris]

How many times do you see the word "graffiti" here? This letter furnished a pretext for Trump's fascist paramilitary surge in Democratic strongholds.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/07/16/acting-secretary-wolf-condemns-rampant-long-lasting-violence-portland

You said it was just "graffiti".

[ChumpDumper]

You said it was just "graffiti".There are also trash fires.

[ChumpDumper]

Obviously Democrats.

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[Winehole23]

You said it was just "graffiti".Actually, that's a hostile inference. Mostly peaceful has been my take all along.

Democracy is messy, like Donald Rumsfeld once said.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1287138910829772801?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1287138910829772801?s=19Yeah, brought the whole building down.

Thousands killed.

[spurraider21]

Legit impressed by all the things chris and derp are able to post here that aren’t fascism

[DarrinS]

The term "fascism" gets thrown around way too loosely, tbh. By all sides.

[Winehole23]

The term "fascism" gets thrown around way too loosely, tbh. By all sides.

Nah, fits this case. Unsurprising you can't see it.

[spurraider21]

The term "fascism" gets thrown around way too loosely, tbh. By all sides.
how do you define fascism

[Winehole23]

Umberto Eco's 14 signs of Ur Fascism work for me.


1. The first feature of Ur-Fascism is the cult of tradition. Traditionalism is of course mucholder than fascism. Not only was it typical of counter-revolutionary Catholic thought afterthe French revolution, but it was born in the late Hellenistic era, as a reaction to classicalGreek rationalism. In the Mediterranean basin, people of different religions (most of themindulgently accepted by the Roman Pantheon) started dreaming of a revelation received atthe dawn of human history. This revelation, according to the traditionalist mystique, had6remained for a long time concealed under the veil of forgotten languages – in Egyptianhieroglyphs, in the Celtic runes, in the scrolls of the little known religions of Asia.This new culture had to be syncretistic. Syncretism is not only, as the dictionary says,"the combination of different forms of belief or practice"; such a combination musttolerate contradictions. Each of the original messages contains a silver of wisdom, andwhenever they seem to say different or incompatible things it is only because all arealluding, allegorically, to the same primeval truth.As a consequence, there can be no advancement of learning. Truth has been alreadyspelled out once and for all, and we can only keep interpreting its obscure message.One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the majortraditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic,occult elements. The most influential theoretical source of the theories of the new Italianright, Julius Evola, merged the Holy Grail with The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,alchemy with the Holy Roman and Germanic Empire. The very fact that the Italian right,in order to show its open-mindedness, recently broadened its syllabus to include works byDe Maistre, Guenon, and Gramsci, is a blatant proof of syncretism.If you browse in the shelves that, in American bookstores, are labeled as New Age, youcan find there even Saint Augustine who, as far as I know, was not a fascist. Butcombining Saint Augustine and Stonehenge – that is a symptom of Ur-Fascism.

2. Traditionalism implies the rejection of modernism. Both Fascists and Nazis worshipedtechnology, while traditionalist thinkers usually reject it as a negation of traditionalspiritual values. However, even though Nazism was proud of its industrial achievements,its praise of modernism was only the surface of an ideology based upon Blood and Earth(Blut und Boden). The rejection of the modern world was disguised as a rebuttal of thecapitalistic way of life, but it mainly concerned the rejection of the Spirit of 1789 (and of1776, of course). The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning ofmodern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.

3. Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action's sake. Action beingbeautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking isa form of emasculation. Therefore culture is suspect insofar as it is identified with criticalattitudes. Distrust of the intellectual world has always been a symptom of Ur-Fascism,from Goering's alleged statement ("When I hear talk of culture I reach for my gun") to thefrequent use of such expressions as "degenerate intellectuals," "eggheads," "effete snobs,""universities are a nest of reds." The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged inattacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditionalvalues.

4. No syncretistic faith can withstand analytical criticism. The critical spirit makesdistinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientificcommunity praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge. For Ur-Fascism,disagreement is treason.

5. Besides, disagreement is a sign of diversity. Ur-Fascism grows up and seeks forconsensus by exploiting and exacerbating the natural fear of difference. The first appealof a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus UrFascism is racist by definition.

6. Ur-Fascism derives from individual or social frustration. That is why one of the mosttypical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, aclass suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightenedby the pressure of lower social groups. In our time, when the old "proletarians" are becoming petty bourgeois (and the lumpen are largely excluded from the political scene),the fascism of tomorrow will find its audience in this new majority.

7. To people who feel deprived of a clear social identity, Ur-Fascism says that their onlyprivilege is the most common one, to be born in the same country. This is the origin ofnationalism. Besides, the only ones who can provide an identity to the nation are itsenemies. Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot,possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solvethe plot is the appeal to xenophobia. But the plot must also come from the inside: Jewsare usually the best target because they have the advantage of being at the same timeinside and outside. In the U.S., a prominent instance of the plot obsession is to be foundin Pat Robertson's The New World Order, but, as we have recently seen, there are manyothers.

8. The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of theirenemies. When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people.They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help eachother through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers must beconvinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting ofrhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascistgovernments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable ofobjectively evaluating the force of the enemy.

9. For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle. Thuspacifism is trafficking with the enemy. It is bad because life is permanent warfare. This,however, brings about an Armageddon complex. Since enemies have to be defeated, theremust be a final battle, after which the movement will have control of the world. But sucha "final solution" implies a further era of peace, a Golden Age, which contradicts theprinciple of permanent war. No fascist leader has ever succeeded in solving thispredicament.

10. Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology, insofar as it is fundamentallyaristocratic, and aristocratic and militaristic elitism cruelly implies contempt for the weak.Ur-Fascism can only advocate a popular elitism. Every citizen belongs to the best peopleof the world, the members of the party are the best among the citizens, every citizen can(or ought to) become a member of the party. But there cannot be patricians withoutplebeians. In fact, the Leader, knowing that his power was not delegated to himdemocratically but was conquered by force, also knows that his force is based upon theweakness of the masses; they are so weak as to need and deserve a ruler. Since the groupis hierarchically organized (according to a military model), every subordinate leaderdespises his own underlings, and each of them despises his inferiors. This reinforces thesense of mass elitism.

11. In such a perspective everybody is educated to become a hero. In every mythology thehero is an exceptional being, but in Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult ofheroism is strictly linked with the cult of death. It is not by chance that a motto of theFalangists was Viva la Muerte (in English it should be translated as "Long Live Death!").In non-fascist societies, the lay public is told that death is unpleasant but must be facedwith dignity; believers are told that it is the painful way to reach a supernatural happiness.By contrast, the Ur-Fascist hero craves heroic death, advertised as the best reward for aheroic life. The Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequentlysends other people to death.

12. Since both permanent war and heroism are difficult games to play, the Ur-Fascisttransfers his will to power to sexual matters. This is the origin of machismo (whichimplies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual8habits, from chastity to homosexuality). Since even sex is a difficult game to play, the UrFascist hero tends to play with weapons – doing so becomes an ersatz phallic exercise.

13. Ur-Fascism is based upon a selective populism, a qualitative populism, one might say.In a democracy, the citizens have individual rights, but the citizens in their entirety have apolitical impact only from a quantitative point of view – one follows the decisions of themajority. For Ur-Fascism, however, individuals as individuals have no rights, and thePeople is conceived as a quality, a monolithic entity expressing the Common Will. Sinceno large quantity of human beings can have a common will, the Leader pretends to betheir interpreter. Having lost their power of delegation, citizens do not act; they are onlycalled on to play the role of the People. Thus the People is only a theatrical fiction. Tohave a good instance of qualitative populism we no longer need the Piazza Venezia inRome or the Nuremberg Stadium. There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, inwhich the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented andaccepted as the Voice of the People.Because of its qualitative populism Ur-Fascism must be against "rotten" parliamentarygovernments. One of the first sentences uttered by Mussolini in the Italian parliament was"I could have transformed this deaf and gloomy place into a bivouac for my maniples" –"maniples" being a subdivision of the traditional Roman legion. As a matter of fact, heimmediately found better housing for his maniples, but a little later he liquidated theparliament. Wherever a politician casts doubt on the legitimacy of a parliament because itno longer represents the Voice of the People, we can smell Ur-Fascism.

14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. Newspeak was invented by Orwell, in 1984, as theofficial language of Ingsoc, English Socialism. But elements of Ur-Fascism are commonto different forms of dictatorship. All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of animpoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments forcomplex and critical reasoning. But we must be ready to identify other kinds ofNewspeak, even if they take the apparently innocent form of a popular talk show.On the morning of July 27, 1943, I was told that, according to radio reports, fascism hadcollapsed and Mussolini was under arrest. When my mother sent me out to buy thenewspaper, I saw that the papers at the nearest newsstand had different titles. Moreover,after seeing the headlines, I realized that each newspaper said different things. I boughtone of them, blindly, and read a message on the first page signed by five or six politicalparties – among them the Democrazia Cristiana, the Communist Party, the Socialist Party,the Partito d'Azione, and the Liberal Party.Until then, I had believed that there was a single party in every country and that in Italy itwas the Partito Nazionale Fascista. Now I was discovering that in my country severalparties could exist at the same time. Since I was a clever boy, I immediately realized thatso many parties could not have been born overnight, and they must have existed for sometime as clandestine organizations.The message on the front celebrated the end of the dictatorship and the return of freedom:freedom of speech, of press, of political association. These words, "freedom,""dictatorship," "liberty," – I now read them for the first time in my life. I was reborn as afree Western man by virtue of these new words.We must keep alert, so that the sense of these words will not be forgotten again. UrFascism is still around us, sometimes in plainclothes. It would be so much easier, for us,if there appeared on the world scene somebody saying, "I want to reopen Auschwitz, Iwant the Black Shirts to parade again in the Italian squares." Life is not that simple. UrFascism can come back under the most innocent of disguises. Our duty is to uncover it9and to point our finger at any of its new instances – every day, in every part of the world.Franklin Roosevelt's words of November 4, 1938, are worth recalling:


"I venture the challenging statement that if American democracy ceasesto move forward as a living force, seeking day and night by peacefulmeans to better the lot of our citizens, fascism will grow in strength in ourland."https://www.pegc.us/archive/Articles/eco_ur-fascism.pdf

[Winehole23]

The notion of fascism is not unlike Wittgenstein's notion of agame. A game can be either competitive or not, it can require some special skill or none,it can or cannot involve money. Games are different activities that display only some"family resemblance," as Wittgenstein put it. Consider the following sequence:

1 2 3 4abc bcd cde def

Suppose there is a series of political groups in which group one is characterized by thefeatures abc, group two by the features bcd, and so on. Group two is similar to group onesince they have two features in common; for the same reasons three is similar to two andfour is similar to three. Notice that three is also similar to one (they have in common thefeature c). The most curious case is presented by four, obviously similar to three and two,but with no feature in common with one. However, owing to the uninterrupted series ofdecreasing similarities between one and four, there remains, by a sort of illusorytransitivity, a family resemblance between four and one.Fascism became an all-purpose term because one can eliminate from a fascist regime oneor more features, and it will still be recognizable as fascist. Take away imperialism fromfascism and you still have Franco and Salazar. Take away colonialism and you still havethe Balkan fascism of the Ustashes. Add to the Italian fascism a radical anti-capitalism(which never much fascinated Mussolini) and you have Ezra Pound. Add a cult of Celticmythology and the Grail mysticism (completely alien to official fascism) and you haveone of the most respected fascist gurus, Julius Evola.

But in spite of this fuzziness, I think it is possible to outline a list of features that aretypical of what I would like to call Ur-Fascism, or Eternal Fascism. These features cannotbe organized into a system; many of them contradict each other, and are also typical ofother kinds of despotism or fanaticism. But it is enough that one of them be present toallow fascism to coagulate around it.

[Winehole23]

Like we do now

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[Winehole23]

internal enemy designated?

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[Winehole23]

totes normal

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[spurraider21]

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this is spurstalk levels of stupidity

if joe biden wins, we are going to become socialist, and therefore we will be nazis

[vy65]

Why isn't the 2A crew up in arms about this? I thought the whole point of having the right to bear arms was to be able to militia up when the federal government started sending in federal troops?

[spurraider21]

Why isn't the 2A crew up in arms about this? I thought the whole point of having the right to bear arms was to be able to militia up when the federal government started sending in federal troops?
secret plot to make people more pro-2A by showing that the whole government tyranny stuff is not as far-fetched as we thought

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/KamVTV/status/1287423368573128704?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1287439251777363968?s=19

[spurraider21]

still not fascists :lmao

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1287303656056868864?s=19

[spurraider21]

seems like the "blm destroys amazon buildings" and "amazon gets insurance money" are just unnecessary steps listed to make this look more sinister than it is.

could just be "amazon gives to blm, money actually goes to act blue, actblue money goes to biden"

except of course thats not how actblue works. actblue collects donations in a manner similar to gofundme.

and even if all that was true, that would still not be fascism

:lol

[Texas_Ranger]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1287439251777363968?s=19

time to play some hoops in Garrett Foster's name and give the guy 5 funerals.

[Chris]

time to play some hoops in Garrett Foster's name and give the guy 5 funerals.

:lol

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1287439251777363968?s=19

Look at all those woke white cucks.

[Spurtacular]

time to play some hoops in Garrett Foster's name and give the guy 5 funerals.

:lmao

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1287439251777363968?s=19
Police have said Foster didn’t fire a single shot, and was murdered.

Congrats for celebrating his death

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1287439251777363968?s=19Fake news.

[spurraider21]

One victim was taken to Dell Seton Medical Center, where he later died. Police said the incident was a homicide.In an update early Sunday morning, police said initial reports indicated the victim, an adult man, was carrying a rifle when he approached the suspect's vehicle. The suspect then shot out of their car at the victim, police said. That suspect was detained and cooperating with officers, police said Sunday morning.

On Sunday afternoon, KVUE Senior Reporter Tony Plohetski confirmed with police that two people opened fire during the shooting. Neither shooter was the man who was killed.

Officials believe one shooter was the driver of a car and the other was in the crowd and may have opened fire on the car as it drove away. The investigation remains fluid, but as of 2 p.m. Sunday, this is the account police have of what happened.

Investigators are trying to determine what charges the two shooters may face.

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/downtown-austin-shooting-congress-sixth-street/269-9cd396c1-169c-45be-9529-c1e4662f838e

[ChumpDumper]

Chris needs to retract his fake news and post an apology to the board.

[Chris]

Audio doesn't lie.

First 5 shots came from a rifle.

[ChumpDumper]

Audio doesn't lie.Qhris, however, lies all the time.

[Trainwreck2100]

1287156422350905346

this is spurstalk levels of stupidity

if joe biden wins, we are going to become socialist, and therefore we will be nazis

"You're not an american if you wear that mask" is so anti-american and it's fucking bullshit. Freedom of expression covers even dumbfuck expression.

[spurraider21]

"You're not an american if you wear that mask" is so anti-american and it's fucking bullshit. Freedom of expression covers even dumbfuck expression.
I wouldn’t take it so literally. They weren’t calling for criminal/government consequences to wearing it.

But yes if you parade around in nazi gear that’s fairly anti-american given, you know, history and WWII

[Trainwreck2100]

I wouldn’t take it so literally. They weren’t calling for criminal/government consequences to wearing it.

But yes if you parade around in nazi gear that’s fairly anti-american given, you know, history and WWII

even if they were, being anti-american doesn't make you "not an american."
hell that's the fucking republican playbook circa early 2000 every time someone criticized bush.

[spurraider21]

even if they were, being anti-american doesn't make you "not an american."
hell that's the fucking republican playbook circa early 2000 every time someone criticized bush.


I wouldn’t take it so literally. They weren’t calling for criminal/government consequences to wearing it.

But yes if you parade around in nazi gear that’s fairly anti-american given, you know, history and WWII
Some random couple at a market saying you aren’t American isn’t really a big deal or grievance

[Spurtacular]

Chumpettes only believe in their own brand of fascism.

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/couple-banned-by-walmart-after-wearing-nazi-flag-face-masks-at-marshall-minnesota-store

TheGreatYacht

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpettes only believe in their own brand of fascism.

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/couple-banned-by-walmart-after-wearing-nazi-flag-face-masks-at-marshall-minnesota-store

TheGreatYacht:lol derp defending literal Nazi symbols.

[Spurtacular]

**

[spurraider21]

Chumpettes only believe in their own brand of fascism.

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/couple-banned-by-walmart-after-wearing-nazi-flag-face-masks-at-marshall-minnesota-store

TheGreatYacht (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719)
thats not fascism by any definition. tagging tgy for emotional support wont change it. you guys are on an incredible run... a 285 page thread about fascism without an example of fascism

[Spurtacular]

thats not fascism by any definition. tagging tgy for emotional support wont change it. you guys are on an incredible run... a 285 page thread about fascism without an example of fascism

Sure it is. The system is approving what speech is allowed and what speech is not allowed. It couldn't be more fascist.

[Chris]

Philo :lol

[Chris]

Sure it is. The system is approving what speech is allowed and what speech is not allowed. It couldn't be more fascist.

Case in point.

https://twitter.com/1216tor/status/1287357003694772225?s=19

[spurraider21]

Sure it is. The system is approving what speech is allowed and what speech is not allowed. It couldn't be more fascist.
:lol "the system"

if its not the state suppressing it, it's not fascism

[spurraider21]

Case in point.

https://twitter.com/1216tor/status/1287357003694772225?s=19
thats may be viewpoint discrimination, would have to read up more about how the murals were or were not approved/commissioned

[TheGreatYacht]

Chumpettes only believe in their own brand of fascism.

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/couple-banned-by-walmart-after-wearing-nazi-flag-face-masks-at-marshall-minnesota-store

TheGreatYacht

Chumpettes need big tech to keep them safe. Corporations and big tech is their safe haven.

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpettes need big tech to keep them safe. Corporations and big tech is their safe haven.:lol All you do is post links to big tech sites.

[spurraider21]

walmart is big tech? :lol

[Chris]

thats may be viewpoint discrimination, would have to read up more about how the murals were or were not approved/commissioned

What did you find out?

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol All you do is post links to big tech sites.

Censorship. You and spurraider21 LOVE that. Gotta keep them Chumpettes safe.

[ChumpDumper]

Censorship.You want big brother government to save you?

[TheGreatYacht]

You want big brother government to save you?

Big brother government controls these big tech corporations. Big brother government tells these big tech corporations who to censor.

Nice try though.

[Spurtacular]

:lol "the system"

if its not the state suppressing it, it's not fascism

Corporations have de facto governmental powers. Let's not kid ourselves, Lite.

[Spurtacular]

Case in point.

https://twitter.com/1216tor/status/1287357003694772225?s=19

Where's the white lives matter mural?

[TheGreatYacht]

Corporations have de facto governmental powers. Let's not kid ourselves, Lite.


Big brother government controls these big tech corporations. Big brother government tells these big tech corporations who to censor.

Nice try though.

A case can also be made that corporations control our government via lobbying.

But who controls both corporations and government? Zionists and Jewish supremacists. I'm just being more specific bruh...


Who Controls The World, How They Do It, And What They Believe

https://www.bitchute.com/video/sJ0NzZEE7Xht/

[ChumpDumper]

Big brother government controls these big tech corporations. Big brother government tells these big tech corporations who to censor.

Nice try though.
Oh, so nothing to be done at all.:tu

[Winehole23]

Intersting take by Tom Nichols

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[spurraider21]

Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa)

[Winehole23]

Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa)




bum link

[spurraider21]

bum link
really? works for me.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa

[Winehole23]

really? works for me.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifathx, the link did not appear in your previous post.

[Chris]

Intersting take by Tom Nichols

1287601983147450368

interesting conspiracy theory :tu

[Chris]

Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/27/us-rightwing-extremists-attacks-deaths-database-leftwing-antifa)






Can you show me the link for the registry of anti-fascists and their criminal history?

Thanks in advance :tu

[Winehole23]

interesting conspiracy theory :tuSometimes conspiracies do happen between power hungry heads of state and their powerful toadies, but the interesting thing about the Nichols tweet is the credible hypothesis that Bill Barr is taking advantage of a weak and incompetent President to take power for his own office.

[Winehole23]

Can you show me the link for the registry of anti-fascists and their criminal history?

Thanks in advance :tu
Wow, no Antifa have been caught killing anyone in the last 25 years?

That does sound sinister.

[Winehole23]

What are the major Antifa terror incidents, Chris?

[Chris]

Wow, no Antifa have been caught killing anyone in the last 25 years?

That does sound sinister.

ANTIFA is a terrorist organization that uses fascist techniques.

Show me the list of the actual anti-fascists.

[spurraider21]

ANTIFA is a terrorist organization that uses fascist techniques.

Show me the list of the actual anti-fascists.
you haven't really demonstrated any understanding of what the term fascist actually means, given this thread

[Chris]

you haven't really demonstrated any understanding of what the term fascist actually means, given this thread


Can you show me the link for the registry of anti-fascists and their criminal history?

Thanks in advance :tu

[spurraider21]

i dont doubt that people who consider themselves part of "antifa" have committed crimes. some might have even committed murder in the past.

but no murders have been linked to anti-fascist activity. you're free to point to any specific murders where the motive had anything to do with anti-fascist sentiment

[Winehole23]

ANTIFA is a terrorist organization that uses fascist techniques.

Show me the list of the actual anti-fascists.I don't have a list of anti-fascists, sorry.

What are the fascist techniques Antifa uses?

What specific terrorist actions do you attribute to Antifa?

[Chris]

i dont doubt that people who consider themselves part of "antifa" have committed crimes. some might have even committed murder in the past.

but no murders have been linked to anti-fascist activity. you're free to point to any specific murders where the motive had anything to do with anti-fascist sentiment

I need to see some proof...otherwise your article is a piece of shit.

[Winehole23]

Do you consider street fighting with Neo-Nazis and white power assholes to be fascism?

Terrorism?

[spurraider21]

I need to see some proof...otherwise your article is a piece of shit.
Proof would be to find a single murder which is tied to antifa efforts

[Winehole23]

I don't have a list of anti-fascists, sorry.

What are the fascist techniques Antifa uses?

What specific terrorist actions do you attribute to Antifa?Hey Chris, why are you running way from your own take?

If Antifa are fascist, please give an example of the fascism.

If Antifa are terrorists, please give an example of something they've done that fits the definition.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-06-20/shooting-in-seattle-protest-zone-leaves-1-dead-1-injured

This wasn't Antifa or Antifa ilk?

The numbers are convenient. There's plenty of terrible antifa people committing all kinds of crime, including murder.

The left are always touting these fake numbers. Antifa aren't choir boys.

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-06-20/shooting-in-seattle-protest-zone-leaves-1-dead-1-injured

This wasn't Antifa or Antifa ilk?

The numbers are convenient. There's plenty of terrible antifa people committing all kinds of crime, including murder.

The left are always touting these fake numbers. Antifa aren't choir boys. \\Give me a quick run down of Antifa murders vs. right wing murders during the Trump administration.

Thanks for folding in advance.

[spurraider21]

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-06-20/shooting-in-seattle-protest-zone-leaves-1-dead-1-injured

This wasn't Antifa or Antifa ilk?

The numbers are convenient. There's plenty of terrible antifa people committing all kinds of crime, including murder.

The left are always touting these fake numbers. Antifa aren't choir boys.
was the killing motivated by anti-fascist sentiment?

every time a left leaning person commits a crime that doesnt make the crime politically motivated

[Winehole23]

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-06-20/shooting-in-seattle-protest-zone-leaves-1-dead-1-injured

This wasn't Antifa or Antifa ilk?
The suspect, or suspects, fled, and no motive was known, police said.



There's plenty of terrible antifa people committing all kinds of crime, including murder..List some Antifa crimes and murders.

[Spurtacular]

was the killing motivated by anti-fascist sentiment?

every time a left leaning person commits a crime that doesnt make the crime politically motivated

The Milwaukee Trump black dude was killed by blm and/or blm sympathizers.

The 200-0 BS is cooked numbers faggoty commies push and post on Reddit. It's nothing new.

[ChumpDumper]

The Milwaukee Trump black dude was killed by blm and/or blm sympathizers.

The 200-0 BS is cooked numbers faggoty commies push and post on Reddit. It's nothing new.What are your numbers?

Round up to 200 if you have to.

[spurraider21]

The Milwaukee Trump black dude was killed by blm and/or blm sympathizers.

The 200-0 BS is cooked numbers faggoty commies push and post on Reddit. It's nothing new.
i'd love to see an article where the police/investigators say they have reason to believe his killing was politically motivated. from what i've read, despite the fact that he carried a trump sign, he was also a supporter of blm

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2020/07/26/milwaukees-bernell-trammell-fatally-shot-what-we-know-death-trump-support-black-lives-matter/5514083002/

[Winehole23]

The Milwaukee Trump black dude was killed by blm and/or blm sympathizers.That's pure speculation. Police have announced no suspects and no motive for this murder as yet.

You're kinda flailing dude. I've been asking you and Darrin and Chris for months to list some Antifa crimes and none of you can name even one.

[ChumpDumper]

i'd love to see an article where the police/investigators say they have reason to believe his killing was politically motivated. from what i've read, despite the fact that he carried a trump sign, he was also a supporter of blm

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2020/07/26/milwaukees-bernell-trammell-fatally-shot-what-we-know-death-trump-support-black-lives-matter/5514083002/Yeah. I told derp that yesterday.

He's never been the same since.

[spurraider21]

i mean every time there's a murder somewhere it doesnt make sense to go running looking up his voter registration info to see what his political tendencies were to call something an "alt right murder" or "antifa murder"

the facts around the murder itself are what would determine that.

[Spurtacular]

i'd love to see an article where the police/investigators say they have reason to believe his killing was politically motivated. from what i've read, despite the fact that he carried a trump sign, he was also a supporter of blm

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2020/07/26/milwaukees-bernell-trammell-fatally-shot-what-we-know-death-trump-support-black-lives-matter/5514083002/

You think the idiots who drive-by'd him vetted him?

:lol Willfully ignorant
:lol Cherp chiming in to boast he's willfully ignorant too

[Spurtacular]

That's pure speculation. Police have announced no suspects and no motive for this murder as yet.

You're kinda flailing dude. I've been asking you and Darrin and Chris for months to list some Antifa crimes and none of you can name even one.

We know why he was killed. You're majorly failing.

[ChumpDumper]

Post your evidence or fold, derp.

[Winehole23]

We know why he was killed. You're majorly failing.Um, actually we don't know that. You're jumping to conclusions.

[Winehole23]

Chris and Spurtacular cannot point to a single documented Antifa crime, let alone a murder.

[spurraider21]

You think the idiots who drive-by'd him vetted him?
that's your claim, not mine.

[Spurtacular]

that's your claim, not mine.

He got drive-by'd. That's a fact.

[Spurtacular]

Um, actually we don't know that. You're jumping to conclusions.

You're hiding behind a sliver of a doubt. It's sad.

[ChumpDumper]

derp folds

derp will cry

[ElNono]

Chris and Spurtacular cannot point to a single documented Antifa crime, let alone a murder.

That's ok, they can still be scared of the big bad Antifa boogeyman...

[Winehole23]

You're hiding behind a sliver of a doubt. It's sad.Until we have more info, there's not much to lay a finger on besides doubt and speculation.

It's charming how often your certittude matches your prior opinions of the matter., any matter really. It's one of the things that allows you to stand so tall on mere assertions and guesses.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1288085880457043970?s=19

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1288085880457043970?s=19Trump can invoke the Insurrection Act.. It would be losing move politically imho.

[spurraider21]

He got drive-by'd. That's a fact.
And your claim is that they vetted his political views and killed him out of anti fascist sentiment

[Winehole23]

the Antifa/BLM thugs at Reason weigh in:



...correctly calling out "jackbooted thugs" no matter who their targets are could be a good way of trying to head-off a cycle of reactive violence, if the warnings are heeded.

But we live in a time when too many people are concerned about the treatment of their tribe rather than equal protection and decent treatment for everybody. An unfortunate number of gun rights supporters and people on the right who, quite rightly, raged against abusive ATF agents in the past are quiet about or even supportive of federal agents busting the heads of protesters. Maybe they see that as payback for the folks on the left who dismissed criticism of federal agents in the past but are now suffering their own jackbooted-thug moment.

But you can't preserve a free society if support for limited government and civil liberties are situational, depending on who is on the receiving end. If you think it's fine to set enforcers to rousting people if you dislike their causes, you're just weaponizing the law and hoping that your side will, somehow, stay in power indefinitely. That's a no-win tactic.
https://reason.com/2020/07/27/the-feds-are-still-the-jackbooted-thugs-we-were-warned-about/

[Spurtacular]

And your claim is that they vetted his political views and killed him out of anti fascist sentiment

It's the news's claim. He walked around everywhere talking about his politics and promoting Trump in sign form.

His Trump support was in the open, Lite.

The BLM "support" is a rouse.

[spurraider21]

It's the news's claim. He walked around everywhere talking about his politics and promoting it in sign form.

His Trump support was in the open, Lite.

The BLM "support" is a rouse.
your claim is that he was murdered for his politics. im not the one making that claim.

[Spurtacular]

your claim is that he was murdered for his politics. im not the one making that claim.

It's by far the most likely reality. I get that you need to tap dance rather than come to terms.

[spurraider21]

It's by far the most likely reality. I get that you need to tap dance rather than come to terms.
its a pure assumption at this point that it was specifically related to his politics, or if it was done for blm purposes vs antifa, etc. there's a lot we dont know

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI_F9qTbiJY

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Gym

[ElNono]

damn, even Tucker going in on Gym, pointing out to him Google is his #2 top donor...

[Winehole23]

Tender ICE feelings and a poignant bid for victimhood.

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[spurraider21]

"just following orders" is not the best way to distance yourself from nazis :lol

[Chris]

"just following orders" is not the best way to distance yourself from nazis :lol

I didn't see this anywhere in the article, but I can't get the video to load.

Who said that?

[spurraider21]

I didn't see this anywhere in the article, but I can't get the video to load.

Who said that?
they didnt use those words. but "just following orders" was the cliche nazi excuse and that was some of the sentiment in the article.

"We constantly look like we're the bad guys, when all we're doing is enforcing the laws and doing our job,"

apologies if the quotation marks were misleading, i was referring to the messaging and comparable rhetoric

[Chris]

they didnt use those words. but "just following orders" was the cliche nazi excuse and that was some of the sentiment in the article.

"We constantly look like we're the bad guys, when all we're doing is enforcing the laws and doing our job,"

apologies if the quotation marks were misleading, i was referring to the general messaging

So you just made that shit up.

Got it :tu

[spurraider21]

So you just made that shit up.

Got it :tu
nah. drew an obvious parallel between "all we're doing is enforcing the laws" and the "just following orders" meme

the messaging is virtually identical

[ChumpDumper]

nah. drew an obvious parallel between "all we're doing is enforcing the laws" and the "just following orders" meme

the messaging is virtually identicalI use italics so fake news liar types like Qhris can't complain.

[spurraider21]

I use italics so fake news liar types like Qhris can't complain.
that probably would have been better

[Spurtacular]

So you just made that shit up.

Got it :tu

:lol A lot of history is made up. Question everything you were taught about Hitler's Germany.

TheGreatYacht

[spurraider21]

:lol A lot of history is made up. Question everything you were taught about Hitler's Germany.

TheGreatYacht (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719)
what really happened in nazi germany, derp?

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol A lot of history is made up. Question everything you were taught about Hitler's Germany.

TheGreatYacht

Yup :tu

Chumpettes would clutch their pearls and pass out if they were to find out all the lies we've been told about WW2 and the Holocaust

[Spurtacular]

what really happened in nazi germany, derp?

Not the holocaust for starters.

[TheGreatYacht]

what really happened in nazi germany, derp?


The TRUTH About The Holocaust

https://www.bitchute.com/video/xtvNZBeWx4jo/

[Spurtacular]

Yup :tu

Chumpettes would clutch their pearls and pass out if they were to find out all the lies we've been told about WW2 and the Holocaust

I'm interested in finding out what level of culpability if any Germany really has for WWII.

We've been taught that Hitler stormed Poland; but it seems they were there at the behest of the Pollocks to protect against Russian invaders.

[spurraider21]

TheGreatYacht which elements of strasserism do you disagree with?

national socialism?
anti-migration?
getting the jews out of the picture?

[TheGreatYacht]

I'm interested in finding out what level of culpability if any Germany really has for WWII.

We've been taught that Hitler stormed Poland; but it seems they were there at the behest of the Pollocks to protect against Russian invaders.

Hitler never invaded those other small countries in Europe. He freed them from the Russian (Jewish) Communist takeover. Those small countries like France and Poland welcomed him with open arms. Hitler found out that the Soviet communists were raping and murdering other Germans in Poland so he went to go save them.

That's not what we're told in our Jewish history books.

[Winehole23]

Demagoguing the electoral process in the run up to the election and unleashing federal police on the opposition, like Bolivia last year.

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[Winehole23]

1288535247282483201

[ChumpDumper]

I'm interested in finding out what level of culpability if any Germany really has for WWII.

We've been taught that Hitler stormed Poland; but it seems they were there at the behest of the Pollocks to protect against Russian invaders.


Hitler never invaded those other small countries in Europe. He freed them from the Russian (Jewish) Communist takeover. Those small countries like France and Poland welcomed him with open arms. Hitler found out that the Soviet communists were raping and murdering other Germans in Poland so he went to go save them.

That's not what we're told in our Jewish history books.Yeah, you guys are clearly insane.

[Winehole23]

Dramatic public misdemeanor arrest of Antifa by NYPD. Paint on a camera is a property crime.


Authorities say the arrest was standard procedure for the warrant squad, but that squad typically goes after more dangerous people and violent offenders.https://abc7ny.com/nyc-protest-arrest-nikki-stone-manhattan-woman-arrested/6339831/

[Spurtacular]

Dramatic public misdemeanor arrest of Antifa by NYPD. Paint on a camera is a property crime.

https://abc7ny.com/nyc-protest-arrest-nikki-stone-manhattan-woman-arrested/6339831/

:lol The media framing an arrest for vandalism as a tragedy.

:lmao Blakehole

[Winehole23]

:lol The media framing an arrest for vandalism as a tragedy.Extraction squad for people who put stickers on camera lenses.

Today's LE snowflakes.

[Winehole23]

local police defunded, crime wave ensues:

https://www.wave3.com/2020/07/28/kentucky-town-hires-social-workers-instead-more-officers-results-are-surprising/

[Winehole23]

:corn:

1288943685627936770

[Winehole23]

Professor Steven G. Calabresi is the Clayton J. & Henry R. Barber Professor of Law at Northwestern Pritzker School of Law. He is also a Visiting Professor of Law at Yale Law School, Fall 2013-2016; a Visiting Professor of Political Theory at Brown University for 2016-2017; and a Chairman since 1986 of the Federalist Society's Board of Directors.https://fedsoc.org/contributors/steven-calabresi

[Winehole23]

major theme, minor example

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[Spurtacular]

WReck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) do you support Amazon banning books like this?

https://assets.change.org/photos/3/bp/ic/RGBPicEKZTrrrYJ-800x450-noPad.jpg?1548678213

[ChumpDumper]

The hell is a shefflorn?

[Winehole23]

the stuff Chris and Spurtacular think is fascism is hilarious.

[ChumpDumper]

WReck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) do you support Amazon banning books like this?

https://assets.change.org/photos/3/bp/ic/RGBPicEKZTrrrYJ-800x450-noPad.jpg?1548678213Did you sign the petition?

[DMC]

the stuff Chris and Spurtacular think is fascism is hilarious.

Fascism could actually be hilarious, depending on which role you play in it.

[Spurtacular]

the stuff Chris and Spurtacular think is fascism is hilarious.

Is fascism not about suppressing freedoms?

[Winehole23]

Fascism could actually be hilarious, depending on which role you play in it.^^^Fortune cookie writing

What's your take on banning No Dress for Timmy?

[Winehole23]

I think it's count to potato level analysis

[Winehole23]

Is fascism not about suppressing freedoms?I'm so sorry to hear Amazon has hindered your access to No Dress for Timmy.

I wish you good luck finding it!

[Spurtacular]

^^^Fortune cookie writing

What's your take on banning No Dress for Timmy?

I think institutional control of what people think and how they act is a main ingredient in fascism.

TheGreatYacht

[Winehole23]

I'm so sorry to hear Amazon has hindered your access to No Dress for Timmy.

I wish you good luck finding it!Come to think of it, the difficulty you're facing obtaining transphobic, er, traditionalist children's lit is obviously the real fascism.

[ElNono]

I'm so sorry to hear Amazon has hindered your access to No Dress for Timmy.

I wish you good luck finding it!

It hasn't. Author sells it on his site.

[Winehole23]

It hasn't. Author sells it on his site.Of course, but the liberal meanies at Amazon

[Winehole23]

dp

[Spurtacular]

Come to think of it, the difficulty you're facing obtaining transphobic, er, traditionalist children's lit is obviously the real fascism.

Blather.

Govt. isn't supposed to be about making sure your feelings don't get hurt, blakehole.

[Spurtacular]

It hasn't. Author sells it on his site.

This is institutional suppression. Were you really going to go to this author's site?

[Spurtacular]

Of course, but the liberal meanies at Amazon

The fascists (at amazon), for which you are one too, blakehole.

[Winehole23]

Blather.

Govt. isn't supposed to be about making sure your feelings don't get hurt, blakehole.The government isn't involved in this at all.

[Winehole23]

This is institutional suppression. Were you really going to go to this author's site?I posted about the institutional oppression in the Big tech is a threat thread. I'm way more skeeved out by their abuse of third party vendors in their marketplace.

[Nbadan]

Maybe we have solved the real crisis here. Republicans have no idea what true fascism is because it's not Amazon stopping you from ordering a book on their site

[ElNono]

This is institutional suppression. Were you really going to go to this author's site?

is that supposed to sound like a legal term or something?

So Amazon can't pick and choose what it wants to sell? Is that what you're advancing?

[ElNono]

I mean, I'm onboard with an Anti-trust look at Amazon, tbh...

[Spurminator]

WReck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) do you support Amazon banning books like this?

https://assets.change.org/photos/3/bp/ic/RGBPicEKZTrrrYJ-800x450-noPad.jpg?1548678213

A bookstore won't sell a book and you think this is fascism??

:lmao :lmao

[Spurminator]

I tried to get a Christian Bookstore to sell my anthology of satanic poetry, but they refused, and this proves that Democrats are fascists.

[Nbadan]

I mean, I'm onboard with an Anti-trust look at Amazon, tbh...

I agree Amazon dealers are very restricted on which sites they can sell. Basically, you are left with Amazon or Ebay tbh

[Spurtacular]

is that supposed to sound like a legal term or something?

So Amazon can't pick and choose what it wants to sell? Is that what you're advancing?

It's supposed to sound like an accurate summation; and in fact it does.

Yea, I know: :cry Private platform :cry

I'm arguably okay with that as long as they give back all their government contracts and have all their government perks canceled.

Not gonna do that? Yea, fascism then.

[ChumpDumper]

It's supposed to sound like an accurate summation; and in fact it does.

Yea, I know: :cry Private platform :cry

I'm arguably okay with that as long as they give back all their government contracts and have all their government perks canceled.

Not gonna do that? Yea, fascism then.Why should they be forced to make gay porn available to you if the have a government contract?

[Winehole23]

Fascism could actually be hilarious, depending on which role you play in it.C'mon back here and save Spurtacular and redeem your own bullshit. It is not going well for your crew ITT.

[Spurminator]

No one tell Derp that you still can't get a rap CD at Walmart if it has too many F-words.

[Spurtacular]

A bookstore won't sell a book and you think this is fascism??

:lmao :lmao

I bet you were hoping that would somehow land, Sadbert.

[Winehole23]

I tried to get a Christian Bookstore to sell my anthology of satanic poetry, but they refused, and this proves that Democrats are fascists.Quod erat demonstrandum

[Spurtacular]

https://www.thusiasdaevangel.com/uploads/7/5/9/7/75975383/petition_orig.png

[Winehole23]

he's so brave.

[Winehole23]

:corn:
,
1288943685627936770Come on, MAGAs, explain away a Federalist Society founder calling Donald Trump a fascist and calling for his immediate impeachment.

Go!

[ElNono]

I tried to get a Christian Bookstore to sell my anthology of satanic poetry, but they refused, and this proves that Democrats are fascists.

Well, in that particular case, it's about the bookstore freedom of religion though.

[ElNono]

It's supposed to sound like an accurate summation; and in fact it does.

Yea, I know: :cry Private platform :cry

I'm arguably okay with that as long as they give back all their government contracts and have all their government perks canceled.

Not gonna do that? Yea, fascism then.

I'm ok with that arrangement. Actually, didn't they lose the bid for that huge cloud government contract? IIRC, Microsoft won.

[spurraider21]

This is institutional suppression. Were you really going to go to this author's site?
a private business choosing what it does or doesnt want to sell is just laissez faire capitalism

[spurraider21]

i dont think conservatards on this board could really explain how socialism and fascism are different. from what i gather, both of those things to them just mean "when somebody does things i dont like"

[ElNono]

i dont think conservatards on this board could really explain how socialism and fascism are different. from what i gather, both of those things to them just mean "when somebody does things i dont like"

Especially if the promoter is a black president from Kenya.

[FrostKing]

i dont think conservatards on this board could really explain how socialism and fascism are different. from what i gather, both of those things to them just mean "when somebody does things i dont like"
I support socialism. But not communism.

[spurraider21]

I support socialism. But not communism.
you a nazbol/strasserite too?

those types dont really care about socialism... they're just "anti capitalist" because they associate capitalism with joos, and its more about taking away power from the evil jewy cabal than actually caring about socialist ideals

[FrostKing]

you a nazbol/strasserite too?

those types dont really care about socialism... they're just "anti capitalist" because they associate capitalism with joos, and its more about taking away power from the evil jewy cabal than actually caring about socialist ideals
No, I am not too fond of the capitalistic "rat race". I think it is great for young aged immigrants without children. But most people perform better over time and enjoy a happier life when they know there is safety net.

[spurraider21]

No, I am not too fond of the capitalistic "rat race". I think it is great for young aged immigrants without children. But most people perform better over time and enjoy a happier life when they know there is safety net.
but do you associate with or consider urself nazbol or strasserist or anything specific like that?

national socialism, anti-migrant, jewish question, etc

[Spurminator]

Well, in that particular case, it's about the bookstore freedom of religion though.

I suppose in a dystopia where bookstores were otherwise required to carry every published book, this might come into the discussion... but Freedom of Religion doesn't even need to be cited here because bookstores can stock what ever they want.

[FrostKing]

but do you associate with or consider urself nazbol or strasserist or anything specific like that?

national socialism, anti-migrant, jewish question, etc
I will need to research but for me ideally socialism is combined with national pride. People are more willing to sacrifice if they know and respect their fellow man.

[TheGreatYacht]

I think institutional control of what people think and how they act is a main ingredient in fascism.

TheGreatYacht

Edgar Hoover dresses :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1289628398260596737?s=19

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1289617684317876224?s=19

[Spurtacular]

a private business choosing what it does or doesnt want to sell is just laissez faire capitalism

Laissez fairre good now?

[spurraider21]

Laissez fairre good now?
Good or bad, it’s not fascist

[ElNono]

I suppose in a dystopia where bookstores were otherwise required to carry every published book, this might come into the discussion... but Freedom of Religion doesn't even need to be cited here because bookstores can stock what ever they want.

I was being sarcastic... should've used blue font

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1289628398260596737?s=19
:tu

[Spurtacular]

Good or bad, it’s not fascist

Well, it's not laissez fairre in the first place. Amazon is doing this at the behest of the oligarchy.

[Spurtacular]

I suppose in a dystopia where bookstores were otherwise required to carry every published book, this might come into the discussion... but Freedom of Religion doesn't even need to be cited here because bookstores can stock what ever they want.

:lol "carrying"

If it's overhead that is the concern, third party sellers sell on Amazon. There's no need for blocking the sale of the book on economical grounds, Sadbert.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, it's not laissez fairre in the first place. Amazon is doing this at the behest of the oligarchy.Who is the oligarchy?

[spurraider21]

Well, it's not laissez fairre in the first place. Amazon is doing this at the behest of the oligarchy.
of course its laissez faire. unless you want the government to force them to sell a particular book

[Spurtacular]

of course its laissez faire. unless you want the government to force them to sell a particular book

It's de facto government deciding what passes. That's not laissez fairre in the slightest, philo.

[Winehole23]

It's de facto government deciding what passes. That's not laissez fairre in the slightest, philo.please tell us more about this oligarchy you keep referring to.

are you talking about collaboration between Trump and Bezos, for example?

[Spurtacular]

please tell us more about this oligarchy you keep referring to.

are you talking about collaboration between Trump and Bezos, for example?

Are you unaware of the oligarchy that rules over you, blakehole?

[spurraider21]

It's de facto government deciding what passes. That's not laissez fairre in the slightest, philo.
how is it de facto government? are people not able to buy this book anywhere else? are there no viable alternatives to amazon for purchasing this book?

[Spurtacular]

how is it de facto government? are people not able to buy this book anywhere else? are there no viable alternatives to amazon for purchasing this book?

Govt. picks the winners and losers to get to this point of censorship. It's not laissez faire in the slightest. In fact, it's a violation of rights the government is supposed to protect.

[Winehole23]

Are you unaware of the oligarchy that rules over you, blakehole?Oligarchy would seem to be intuitively and palpably present -- commonsensical, if you like -- for all of us.

But ask someone to describe that oligarchy and they become hostile and withdrawn.

Can you describe the oligarchy you mean? Other people might not have the same understanding of the word or the conspiracy, so to speak.

[Spurtacular]

Oligarchy would seem to be intuitively and palpably present -- commonsensical, if you like -- for all of us.

But ask someone to describe that oligarchy and they become hostile and withdrawn.

Can you describe the oligarchy you mean? Other people might not have the same understanding of the word or the conspiracy, so to speak.

So, you're blissfully ignorant of the oligarchal powers that rule over you?

[Winehole23]

So, you're blissfully ignorant of the oligarchal powers that rule over you?Nope, just asking you to describe them at whatever level of detail is most comfortable for you.

[ChumpDumper]

derp folds