The Enemy Of The People Colludes

[Spurtacular]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/‘not-the-enemy-of-the-people’-70-news-organizations-will-blast-trump’s-attack-on-the-media/ar-BBLNEnf?ocid=spartandhp

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

:lmao


In a motion filed in federal court on Thursday, CNN and several other media outlets requested that the court release the names and home addresses of all jurors in the Paul Manafort fraud case. Jurors haven not yet rendered a verdict on any of the 18 charges against Manafort, who briefly served as President Donald Trump’s campaign manager in 2016.
The motion (https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4770015/8-16-18-Media-Motion-to-Intervene-and-for-Access.pdf) — filed on behalf of CNN, Washington Post, BuzzFeed, POLITICO, New York Times, NBC Universal, and the Associated Press

http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/17/cnn-just-sued-government-get-names-addresses-manafort-jurors/

[Spurtacular]

:cry ElNono But the media is not liberal :cry

[Pavlov]

Darrin clutched his pearls at that earlier.

[koriwhat]

:cry ElNono But the media is not liberal :cry

that's hilarious and those who don't believe djt when it comes to the MSM is just not listening because of their blind hate for the dude.

the MSM is most def the enemy of the people and has been for decades prior to my own existence.

[Spurtacular]

that's hilarious and those who don't believe djt when it comes to the MSM is just not listening because of their blind hate for the dude.

the MSM is most def the enemy of the people and has been for decades prior to my own existence.

Well, as someone else said the last time I made this point (probably hater); it's not as much that they're liberal as it is they're corporatist. Typically, their horses are on the Democrat side of the ledger. Plus they certainly liberally biased on certain issues. Calling them the liberal media just saves time though.

[koriwhat]

Well, as someone else said the last time I made this point (probably hater); it's not as much that they're liberal as it is they're corporatist. Typically, their horses are on the Democrat side of the ledger. Plus they certainly liberally biased on certain issues. Calling them the liberal media just saves time though.

as i have said many times before... real liberals don't exist any longer. the label & the party has been taken over by kooks with a communistic/socialist agenda. fuck them all!

[ElNono]

I don't see how that implies the media is liberal? We discussed this already, for the media to be liberal, you would think there would be diminished non-liberal voices, but that's not the case at all.

Also, for being 'the enemy of the people', they're doing pretty well, and it just so happens that it's an industry that lives off people's attention...

I mean, I get that some people need a big bad boogeyman to feed their persecution complex, but there's plenty of mass media for everyone's taste.

Even Twitter, which has been called everything but a white man, is the main conduit for the Liar in Chief at the Oval Office, and Chris is certainly making a living off of that...

[FrostKing]

Journalism is edging on entertainment so naturally there is a relationship there with Hollywood.

[ElNono]

And don't even get me started with the hypocrisy of calling anything fake news when your own lying is unhinged as fuck.

I get and agree that, generally speaking, the biggest media outlets do have certain biases, and certainly are not Cinderellas, but by lying yourself, you're validating the tactic, which is abhorrent no matter who does it.

[Spurtacular]

I don't see how that implies the media is liberal? We discussed this already, for the media to be liberal, you would think there would be diminished non-liberal voices, but that's not the case at all.

Also, for being 'the enemy of the people', they're doing pretty well, and it just so happens that it's an industry that lives off people's attention...

I mean, I get that some people need a big bad boogeyman to feed their persecution complex, but there's plenty of mass media for everyone's taste.

Even Twitter, which has been called everything but a white man, is the main conduit for the Liar in Chief at the Oval Office, and Chris is certainly making a living off of that...

Give me a break, dude. Any idiot who is halfway paying attention knows of the liberal barrage through the media.

[FrostKing]

Before blogs/podcasts - journalist required College degrees. Liberal arts departments are very left leaning.

[spurraider21]

Give me a break, dude. Any idiot who is halfway paying attention knows of the liberal barrage through the media.
any time derp is asked to back a claim, he just says "trust me, redpill, common knowledge", etc.

[Spurtacular]

any time derp is asked to back a claim, he just says "trust me, redpill, common knowledge", etc.

I could bookmark a hundred cases. It's not like you'd accept it as truth, bruh.

[DarrinS]

People still believe the MSM is politically neutral?


:lmao

[ElNono]

Nobody claimed the MSM is politically neutral. I did claim there's plenty of MSM for whatever is your political inclination, that's what we're debating (specifically the 'liberal media' term).

[pgardn]

Wtf is MSM?

[Spurtacular]

Nobody claimed the MSM is politically neutral. I did claim there's plenty of MSM for whatever is your political inclination, that's what we're debating (specifically the 'liberal media' term).

Your argument is phony. When people claim that MSM is liberal, they're not pretending there aren't any conservative outlets.

[ElNono]

Give me a break, dude. Any idiot who is halfway paying attention knows of the liberal barrage through the media.

You called me into this thread mocking my opinion. I substantiate it, and all I get is "oh come on, EVERYBODY knows!" :rolleyes

Please. You can do better than that. Here, have a non-liberal MSM source: http://www.foxnews.com/

Let me add, since the forum is acting up on my ability reply to posts... the media *is* entertainment. It's a entertainment business vying for your attention, much like every other entertainment business.

What's lame about is when they start producing their own news (ie: opinion pieces, etc). But it's not that difficult to separate the junk from the news, IMO.

[ElNono]

Your argument is phony. When people claim that MSM is liberal, they're not pretending there aren't any conservative outlets.

Ehh, it's not. We can go back to the original thread where we discussed this, and I specifically objected to the 'liberal media' generalization.

I even mentioned that there's implicit bias based on the outlet there, so don't tell we're talking about something else now.

Look at your own post in this thread "But the media isn't liberal". Well, no, it's not. There's plenty of non-liberal media if that's your thing.

[pgardn]

Your argument is phony. When people claim that MSM is liberal, they're not pretending there aren't any conservative outlets.


What is MSM?

Define it or just stop using the acronym.
You sound like our president. That’s not a compliment.

[Spurtacular]

:cry Fox News exists. The MSM can't be liberal :cry

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

Ehh, it's not. We can go back to the original thread where we discussed this, and I specifically objected to the 'liberal media' generalization.

I even mentioned that there's implicit bias based on the outlet there, so don't tell we're talking about something else now.

Look at your own post in this thread "But the media isn't liberal". Well, no, it's not. There's plenty of non-liberal media if that's your thing.

I mean that in the truest sense of the word or as in a valuation. The media isn't going to be getting on the free houses for all front any time soon. But they are in the tank for Democrats and their corporate interests, which are overwhelmingly relatable to the modern day Democrat. We could call it the Democrat media if it makes you feel better; but even then, it would be excluding many repubs who are in their tank.

[pgardn]

:lmao

wow

I guess mainstream means unpopular?

WTF do you read and watch moron?

[DarrinS]

I don’t think lefty bias in media is a conspiracy. Probably just a product of these types of people who gravitate towards journalism.

[ElNono]

I mean that in the truest sense of the word or as in a valuation. The media isn't going to be getting on the free houses for all front any time soon. But they are in the tank for Democrats and their corporate interests, which are overwhelmingly relatable to the modern day Democrat. We could call it the Democrat media if it makes you feel better; but even then, it would be excluding many repubs who are in their tank.

Newscorp and Sinclair Broadcasting are among the biggest, most dominant media empires you're going to find, and neither of them is in the tank for Democrats, quite the contrary.

It's not just Fox News. There's a plethora of non-liberal outlets out there for you to discover: Red State, NY Post, National Review, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Washington Examiner, Conservative Tribune, etc...

I'll even go so far as to say we're living in an incredible time for diversity of media opinions. Social media truly revolutionized that aspect, and as much as people like to point fingers to Twitter or Facebook, they use it every day to both post and get their conservative news en masse.

Heck, even the highest hypocrites in the land that continually talk about this persecution of liberal media denounce it on Twitter, etc.

[Spurtacular]

Newscorp and Sinclair Broadcasting are among the biggest, most dominant media empires you're going to find, and neither of them is in the tank for Democrats, quite the contrary.

It's not just Fox News. There's a plethora of non-liberal outlets out there for you to discover: Red State, NY Post, National Review, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Washington Examiner, Conservative Tribune, etc...

I'll even go so far as to say we're living in an incredible time for diversity of media opinions. Social media truly revolutionized that aspect, and as much as people like to point fingers to Twitter or Facebook, they use it every day to both post and get their conservative news en masse.

Heck, even the highest hypocrites in the land that continually talk about this persecution of liberal media denounce it on Twitter, etc.

As I said, the outlets have plenty of repubs in their tank. More repubs are for the corporations than for the people. If you want an example, you can look at all the bull shit Fox News did to Ron Paul when he was running for president.

[pgardn]

As I said, the outlets have plenty of repubs in their tank. More repubs are for the corporations than for the people. If you want an example, you can look at all the bull shit Fox News did to Ron Paul when he was running for president.

What do you read or Watch?

You come up with all these claims that require sources.
Your anus does not lie on a crystal ball.

[ElNono]

As I said, the outlets have plenty of repubs in their tank. More repubs are for the corporations than for the people. If you want an example, you can look at all the bull shit Fox News did to Ron Paul when he was running for president.

Well, 'the people' speak for themselves. 'the people' are guys like you or me that speak their minds, vote with their attention and wallets. You didn't like how Fox News handled Ron Paul, and probably you weren't alone in that, but clearly it wasn't an opinion popular enough to get the network's attention. It happens. Like I said before, I don't always get the content I want, or that interest me. So I don't pay attention. If enough people stops paying attention, then it stops being popular, and their main ad revenue is gone.

And this circles back to what 'the people' want. I can't speak for 'the people' (or you, or anybody really), but I can tell that some of these news outlets are pretty healthy and not going anywhere, so by extension I can surmise somebody is watching.

[FrostKing]

What is MSM?

Define it or just stop using the acronym.
You sound like our president. That’s not a compliment.
Mainstream media

[pgardn]

Mainstream media

Oh.

Well this changes everything.