Bruce Bowen Fired By Clippers For Kawhi Comments

[fusionjazzman72]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24365520/bruce-bowen-la-clippers-game-analyst

[Budkin]

Holy shit... INSANE.

[DPG21920]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1029047747549122560?s=21

[rjv]

clippers already maneuvering towards signing leonard.

[Kori Ellis]

Spurs should bring him on as a defensive coach :lmao

[BaselineBum]

Wow! Does Pop have room on the bench for the Kobe stopper?

[Mikeanaro]

Cant believe how everyone is getting so sissy, everything is offensive, fuaaackk.

[Killakobe81]

clippers already maneuvering towards signing leonard.

Damn. Talk about desperate but hey, Lakers kissed Rich Paul's feet to try and lure LeBron.
Just check the KCP signing pressor ...
So if they get KL might be worth it.
Besides Bowen wasn't that good at his job.
Great defender mediocre analyst.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Prob be an episode of Kobe's The Muse on this one

[Dex]

Can't have someone around who might have hurt Kawhi's feelings. :cry

I swear, Nephew has the psyche of a fucking five year old.

[timvp]

Bowen goes down with the ship while defending the Spurs? Damn. Bring him home.

If only you-know-who had 1/10000th as much loyalty as Bowen.

[StinkyWeezleteats]

Bowen goes down with the ship while defending the Spurs? Damn. Bring him home.

If only you-know-who had 1/10000th as much loyalty as Bowen.

I would love him to replace Oh Mama Land. Make it happen!

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Spurs should bring him on as a defensive coach :lmao

For realz...gonna need someone like him to be up in LWIV

[kobyz]

Spurs should bring him on as a defensive coach :lmao

i hope they bring him to replace elliott, he is a better game analyst

[Silver&Black]

Cant believe how everyone is getting so sissy, everything is offensive, fuaaackk.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--dd2wbVAMTQ/WusPaN-kE9I/AAAAAAAAtDw/M6HQIxjejlArS9vkynMcw4L8Wja7u8yYQCLcBGAs/s1600/thinskin.JPG

[timvp]

I would love him to replace Oh Mama Land. Make it happen!

Give him the PA job. That's open.

[StinkyWeezleteats]

Give him the PA job. That's open.

Didn't know that. What happened to the ginger?

[Mikeanaro]

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--dd2wbVAMTQ/WusPaN-kE9I/AAAAAAAAtDw/M6HQIxjejlArS9vkynMcw4L8Wja7u8yYQCLcBGAs/s1600/thinskin.JPG
Pretty much, tbh.

[DPG21920]

Didn't know that. What happened to the ginger?

His wife is battling cancer and her doctors are in Houston. So he made the decision to be by his wife’s side.

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His wife is battling cancer and her doctors are in Houston. So he made the decision to be by his wife’s side.

I read somewhere that she was done with chemo. Best wishes to them though. I'm sure that was a tough call.

[daslicer]

I wonder if the Clippers are the favorites to sign Kawhi. I have heard Kawhi's team doesn't like the idea of him playing with Lebron due to them wanting him to be the center of attention on whatever team he plays for. Could Uncle Dennis possibly have leaked to the Clippers that Kawhi will sign with them as long as Bowen gets fired?

[BillMc]

Cant believe how everyone is getting so sissy, everything is offensive, fuaaackk.

This.

[baseline bum]

His wife is battling cancer and her doctors are in Houston. So he made the decision to be by his wife’s side.

Damn :depressed

[daslicer]

I would love him to replace Oh Mama Land. Make it happen!

:lol You don't like hearing him scream Mamamia?

[wildbill2u]

The whole industry is talking about Kwahi and Bowen loses his job in an organization that (at this point) has no connection with Kwahi. Well, Good for Bowen. Spurs bloodlines run deep for most players.

[callo1]

All in an effort to prevent an over sensitive sissy from being scared away and not sign with them.

Bruce didn't say anything bad, nothing to warrant being fired.

So glad hewhichwedonotspeakhisname is gone...what a pansy.

[daslicer]

Spurs definitely need to hook him up with a job after he defended them.

[JakeCuenca]

Fucking Nephew I swear. This Faggot just requested the firing of a great spurs legend. Spursfans have every right to complain for this bitch like request.

You go get em spursfans. Show Kawhi he cant act this way. Cant believe players now make the decision to fire analyst.

Go Spurs Go.

[BillMc]

All in an effort to prevent an over sensitive sissy from being scared away and not sign with them.

Bruce didn't say anything bad, nothing to warrant being fired.

So glad hewhichwedonotspeakhisname is gone...what a pansy.

Funny the difference in the two best defensive Sf's Spurs have ever had. One is uber talented, but a wuss. One is far less talented, but bulldog tough on and off the court. Kawhi was better, but Bruce will always be Silver and Black to the core.

[daslicer]

Funny the difference in the two best defensive Sf's Spurs have ever had. One is uber talented, but a wuss. One is far less talented, but bulldog tough on and off the court. Kawhi was better, but Bruce will always be Silver and Black to the core.

You can argue Bruce had even a rougher upbringing than Kawhi. Both of his parents abandoned him and he was homeless for a period of time during his childhood. Bruce also wasn't drafted and had to claw his way into the league. I remember hearing Bruce talk about how bad Europe was in the sense he was saying guys could straight up punch you in the face knowing that if you hit them back your contract would be terminated. I went a little off tangent here but Bruce is probably one of the most mentally tough people out there.

[Dverde]

Bruce may have a wrongful termination lawsuit if they really used those comments as the cause of termination. Many many easier ways to get rid of him. Clippers doing Clippers things.

[StinkyWeezleteats]

His wife is battling cancer and her doctors are in Houston. So he made the decision to be by his wife’s side.

Damn, that's too bad. I would send thoughts and prayers, but you know what does that actually do?:spin

[gambit1990]

Cant believe how everyone is getting so sissy, everything is offensive, fuaaackk.
not sure if you’re referring to kawhi or to everyone in this thread.

[StinkyWeezleteats]

:lol You don't like hearing him scream Mamamia?

I would rather hear fingernails on a chalkboard or, even worse, attend a Cardi B show.

[CitizenDwayne]

:rollinShit is comical at this point. Bruce’s comments were a mild critique; as were Tony’s, Manu’s and David’s. This desperate attempt to spin those quotes as attacks is just pathetic.

Absolutely embarrassing from an organization standpoint for the Clips, too: firing a guy who, months ago, criticized a player you would like to acquire in a year. I mean Jesus, have some integrity.

[CitizenDwayne]

Bruce may have a wrongful termination lawsuit if they really used those comments as the cause of termination. Many many easier ways to get rid of him. Clippers doing Clippers things.

Yep. I mean obviously they fired him to suck Kawhi’s ass, but I’m surprised they explicitly said the comments were the reason for the firing.

[Phenomanul]

Well, the bright side is Bruce will no longer have to Skype in for HEB commercials...

Welcome home.

[BillMc]

You can argue Bruce had even a rougher upbringing than Kawhi. Both of his parents abandoned him and he was homeless for a period of time during his childhood. Bruce also wasn't drafted and had to claw his way into the league. I remember hearing Bruce talk about how bad Europe was in the sense he was saying guys could straight up punch you in the face knowing that if you hit them back your contract would be terminated. I went a little off tangent here but Bruce is probably one of the most mentally tough people out there.

Don't worry about off tangent. I liked what you wrote bro. I never knew about Bruce's upbringing. Makes me respect him even more. Homeless as a kid, that'd be rough.

[phxspurfan]

come back to SA and work for the Spurs FO, Bruce!

[BSfromTX]

You can argue Bruce had even a rougher upbringing than Kawhi. Both of his parents abandoned him and he was homeless for a period of time during his childhood. Bruce also wasn't drafted and had to claw his way into the league. I remember hearing Bruce talk about how bad Europe was in the sense he was saying guys could straight up punch you in the face knowing that if you hit them back your contract would be terminated. I went a little off tangent here but Bruce is probably one of the most mentally tough people out there.


Also got got a degree in communication while playing for the spurs. He is a self made man for sure. Clippers.... smh

[phxspurfan]

Funny the difference in the two best defensive Sf's Spurs have ever had. One is uber talented, but a wuss. One is far less talented, but bulldog tough on and off the court. Kawhi was better, but Bruce will always be Silver and Black to the core.

No comparison person-wise, IMO. One was selfless and truly invested in SA (his ex wife even had a salon here). The other was a money grabbing POS who was never fully present and didn't want to be anywhere near SA or his team.

[Clipper Nation]

Tbh, a lot of our fans didn't like Bruce to begin with. People felt he didn't mesh well with Ralph. I didn't mind him because he was actually willing to be critical of Doc and Austin instead of toeing the company line (plus anyone's better than Mike Smith). But I'm not surprised that he's not coming back next season. Shitty reason to fire him, though - of course a former Spur is going to take the Spurs' side.

[cd98]

I hope the Clippers get exactly the Leonard they seem to think they are in play to get.

[BillMc]

No comparison person-wise, IMO. One was selfless and truly invested in SA (his ex wife even had a salon here). The other was a money grabbing POS who was never fully present and didn't want to be anywhere near SA or his team.

Agreed.

[funkyflea89]

Bring Bowen back!

[daslicer]

Don't worry about off tangent. I liked what you wrote bro. I never knew about Bruce's upbringing. Makes me respect him even more. Homeless as a kid, that'd be rough.

In this interview he details how bad his upbringing was.

xTP4Ypc5Rbg

[CitizenDwayne]

Tbh, a lot of our fans didn't like Bruce to begin with. People felt he didn't mesh well with Ralph. I didn't mind him because he was actually willing to be critical of Doc and Austin instead of toeing the company line (plus anyone's better than Mike Smith). But I'm not surprised that he's not coming back next season. Shitty reason to fire him, though - of course a former Spur is going to take the Spurs' side.
Exactly. He was never a great broadcaster, so why attribute it to the Kawhi comments? Truly a joke of an organization. I’m sorry you have to associated to such a dumpster fire

[Clipper Nation]

Exactly. He was never a great broadcaster, so why attribute it to the Kawhi comments? Truly a joke of an organization. I’m sorry you have to associated to such a dumpster fire
I don't blame the Clippers for doing whatever they can to stay competitive in next year's free agency, tbh. I blame Kawhi for being so thin-skinned that Bowen's comments, which weren't even bad, hurt his fee-fees.

[loveforthegame]

I was sure Leonard was going to the Lakers. But if he orchestrated this then he’s definitely a a clipper next season.

[BackHome]

Bowen goes down with the ship while defending the Spurs? Damn. Bring him home.

If only you-know-who had 1/10000th as much loyalty as Bowen.

+1

[TheRemix]

smh get this man a position here back home.

[TimmyBuckets]

Bowen goes down with the ship while defending the Spurs? Damn. Bring him home.

If only you-know-who had 1/10000th as much loyalty as Bowen.

Absolutely. Stuck by his guns, and he probably knew what the consequences were. Bowen was never one to hold back. As for Clips, they obv. did the right thing, and by doing so, got one step closer to showing Kawhi's camp that they are serious and will do anything to have him on their squad.

[daslicer]

I don't blame the Clippers for doing whatever they can to stay competitive in next year's free agency, tbh. I blame Kawhi for being so thin-skinned that Bowen's comments, which weren't even bad, hurt his fee-fees.

I give you credit for at least being honest about the situation. If you were a Laker fan you would be screaming "Bruce bullied Kawhi what a horrible person. Kawhi is the victim here."

[phxspurfan]

Absolutely. Stuck by his guns, and he probably knew what the consequences were. Bowen was never one to hold back. As for Clips, they obv. did the right thing, and by doing so, got one step closer to showing Kawhi's camp that they are serious and will do anything to have him on their squad.

I'd love for Kawhi to go to the Clippers. lol.

[Keepin' it real]

Bruuuuuce! Bruuuuuce!

[CitizenDwayne]

I don't blame the Clippers for doing whatever they can to stay competitive in next year's free agency, tbh. I blame Kawhi for being so thin-skinned that Bowen's comments, which weren't even bad, hurt his fee-fees.
Fair enough. I just think it’s a bitchy move to pull a move like this with the transparent motive of attracting a player. Especially when the player has been exposed as a bitch of epic proportions. Do you really want a superstar who will constantly have to be coddled?

[Mikeanaro]

not sure if you’re referring to kawhi or to everyone in this thread.
I was talking about Clips getting Bowen fired...
a- Bowen gave the most obvious opinion, a franchise player acting like a 3 year old kid getting 18 mil for 9 games and having such erratic behavior towards Spurs.
b - Clips being douchebags acting like it was an attack to their organization when they have no business at all
c - Clips having Uncle Tom Rivers doing lots of lame stuff, one of them was having his scrub son there, they had an anti black owner but Bowen was too much?
d - Ballmer is a bald idiot just lucky enough to be friends with Bill Gates, worst CEO ever.

[SpursDynasty85]

Umm.. If you were trying to recruit a top 5 player in free agency then yea, I think Bruce Bowen is expendable. This is not surprising. I was surprised Bruce did that since it was obvious LA loved crapping on the Spurs and wanted Kawhi for peanuts. Respect Bowen for being honest though. Hope Spurs give him a job this year.

[BillMc]

In this interview he details how bad his upbringing was.

xTP4Ypc5Rbg

Nice vid. Thanks! Is that Bruce's first wife or second wife in the clip?

[daslicer]

I was talking about Clips getting Bowen fired...
a- Bowen gave the most obvious opinion, a franchise player acting like a 3 year old kid getting 18 mil for 9 games and having such erratic behavior towards Spurs.
b - Clips being douchebags acting like it was an attack to their organization when they have no business at all
c - Clips having Uncle Tom Rivers doing lots of lame stuff, one of them was having his scrub son there, they had an anti black owner but Bowen was too much?
d - Ballmer is a bald idiot just lucky enough to be friends with Bill Gates, worst CEO ever.

Ballmer was the original Maverick Carter. He was Maverick Carter before Maverick Carter which is an untalented hack whose best friend happened to be rich.

[spurs10]

Spurs should bring him on as a defensive coach :lmao :clap


Bowen goes down with the ship while defending the Spurs? Damn. Bring him home.

If only you-know-who had 1/10000th as much loyalty as Bowen. Bruce!!
:flag:

[Clipper Nation]

Fair enough. I just think it’s a bitchy move to pull a move like this with the transparent motive of attracting a player. Especially when the player has been exposed as a bitch of epic proportions. Do you really want a superstar who will constantly have to be coddled?
Not really, but it seems like there aren't many superstars who don't need to be coddled anymore.

[daslicer]

Nice vid. Thanks! Is that Bruce's first wife or second wife in the clip?

His first first wife. I remember the interview took place during the '05 finals.

[BillMc]

His first first wife. I remember the interview took place during the '05 finals.

Cheers. Thanks.

[Reeko_Htown]

Spurs fans need to wake up and realize that the Duncan’s are gone. No more. Teams have to cater to their stars and if they don’t theyll leave. That’s it. No sense in rambling like an old man about the old days.

[TheGreatYacht]

Kawhi living rent free round these parts :wakeup

[CitizenDwayne]

A lot of stars these days are coddled bitches, but none I’ve seen are even close to the level Kawhi’s at. Saying “that’s just how it is these days” is dumb; there are plenty star-level players that have demonstrated loyalty and don’t cause drama

[Russ]

Jerry West must really like Kawhi. :hungry:

[TimmyBuckets]

Kawhi living rent free round these parts :wakeup

:deadhorse

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Bowen goes down with the ship while defending the Spurs? Damn. Bring him home.

If only you-know-who had 1/10000th as much loyalty as Bowen.

Bit harsh on Michael Finley, tbh

[daslicer]

Spurs fans need to wake up and realize that the Duncan’s are gone. No more. Teams have to cater to their stars and if they don’t theyll leave. That’s it. No sense in rambling like an old man about the old days.

TBH I rather lose than having to suck these guys dicks. Spurs won 5 and I'm set for the rest of my life. :lol How much fun do you have sucking Harden's dick? It hasn't paid off the last few years.

[daslicer]

A lot of stars these days are coddled bitches, but none I’ve seen are even close to the level Kawhi’s at. Saying “that’s just how it is these days” is dumb; there are plenty star-level players that have demonstrated loyalty and don’t cause drama

I'm old school in the sense that if your getting paid then STFU. I could understand back in the day before max contracts how some guys would openly complain about getting underpaid but with the max in effect today these superstars never get underpaid.

[SpurSpike]

Guess speaking the truth and having a mind of your own isn't coveted in Cali...

Would be cool to see Bowen as a Spurs announcer or maybe he could take Jabari Youngs job?

[TimmyBuckets]

Guess speaking the truth and having a mind of your own isn't coveted in Cali...

Would be cool to see Bowen as a Spurs announcer or maybe he could take Jabari Youngs job?

Bowen's not a journalist. As an announcer, who's place would he take? Sean? Bill? Both those guys are awesome. I do agree that Jabari should gtfo. What a turd.

[ElNono]

If only you-know-who had 1/10000th as much loyalty as Bowen.

Parker?

[dbestpro]

This is just not a good image for the NBA.

[spurs10]

Bruce was absolutely right and I’m glad he spoke out. Now if someone can replace the lost income. Another casualty of nephew.....I’m starting to not like that guy! :makemyday

[heyheymymy]

Kawhi is such a little bitch he's getting people fired on teams he doesn't even play for.

[coachmac87]

Bowen honestly wasn’t very good at TV...but him getting fired over Kawhi is ridiculous.

[hater]

Good firing tbqh

You cannot publicly bully a retard who cannot defend himself on the public stage. There are laws that protect invalids and retards.

Good on you clips

[RD2191]

Good firing tbqh

You cannot publicly bully a retard who cannot defend himself on the public stage. There are laws that protect invalids and retards.

Good on you clips

:lol

[LakerHater]

Great defender mediocre analyst.

[Strategic]

Does this mean that Bowen won’t have a selfie hung in the Forum rafters? Damn Clips

[TD 21]

I doubt Bowen's comments were out of loyalty or that his firing was a directive from Leonard's representative(s).

The former was probably more so what we've seen from myriad Spurs alumni: They are proud to have had a hand, however small, in building the vaunted "culture" and contributing to the success that made this the premiere organization in sports the past 2 decades. Naturally, they don't want anyone (least of all, someone who was late to the party and who the organization had a sizable role in developing) attempting to denigrate it.

The latter was probably more so due diligence. The Clippers, like any organization believed to have a chance to sign a superstar or star, is going to do everything in their power to make that happen. And let's be honest, Bowen is easily disposable not just in terms of role, but in the fact that he's been affiliated with them for one measly season.

[SpurSpike]

Bowen's not a journalist. As an announcer, who's place would he take? Sean? Bill? Both those guys are awesome. I do agree that Jabari should gtfo. What a turd.

The word "Journalist" doesn't mean what it used to... I feel anyone could be a "journalist" these days. Yeah i wouldn't want him taking Bill or Sean's job, but seems we could squeeze him in somewhere.

[TimmyBuckets]

I doubt Bowen's comments were out of loyalty or that his firing was a directive from Leonard's representative(s).

The former was probably more so what we've seen from myriad Spurs alumni: They are proud to have had a hand, however small, in building the vaunted culture and contributing to the success that made this the premiere organization in sports the past 2 decades. Naturally, they don't want anyone (least of all, someone who was late to the party and who the organization had a sizable role in developing) attempting to denigrate it.

The latter was probably more so due diligence. The Clippers, like any organization believed to have a chance to sign a superstar or star, is going to do everything in their power to make that happen. And let's be honest, Bowen is easily disposable not just in terms of role, but in the fact that he's been affiliated with them for one measly season.

fify

[Spur|n|Austin]

Just another ripple from Kawhi's sensitivity.. What a schmuck he turned out to be.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Wow!

Give me man Bruce a job in the front office!

This makes me appreciate Bruce Bowen even more!

[exstatic]

Won’t SA need someone to take over Monaco’s pre game gig?

[BillMc]

Kawhi is such a little bitch he's getting people fired on teams he doesn't even play for.

Post of the year. Truth

[tonski117]

I think Clippers will offer Bowen's spot for kawhi to relieve him of the pressure of becoming main man. :spin

[Spurtacular]

"Hip injuries are sometimes diagnosed as groin injuries and vice versa"

Brian Windhorst during an explanation on Kawhi's "misdiagnosis"

This is the kind of guy the corporate media wants and needs.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

is there any evidence other than circumstantial that kawhi comments were the reason for bowen not being renewed

[Spurtacular]

is there any evidence other than circumstantial that kawhi comments were the reason for bowen not being renewed

It was sourced in the article, bruh. Anonymous of course. But if you're arguing that the media could be making sh** up, well welcome to the club.

[tonight...you]

"Hip injuries are sometimes diagnosed as groin injuries and vice versa"

Brian Windhorst during an explanation on Kawhi's "misdiagnosis"

This is the kind of guy the corporate media wants and needs.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l0Iy0ZNnqn6I5q6g8/source.gif

[tonight...you]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0Iy0ZNnqn6I5q6g8/source.gif
I like how he can't even hold his smile through three head nods. He's already going into vegetable-mode as soon as he can.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

It was sourced in the article, bruh. Anonymous of course. But if you're arguing that the media could be making sh** up, well welcome to the club.

even with anonymous sources, woj doesnt make a causal link between bowens nonrenewal (not firing) and his kawhi comments. only that renewal was expected, then came kawhi comments, then the nonrenewal

hedgier than the english countryside

[Seventyniner]

Bowen goes down with the ship while defending the Spurs? Damn. Bring him home.

If only you-know-who had 1/10000th as much loyalty as Bowen.

Call him Number 2. It works on so many levels.

[SwansonInSibagat]

I wonder how prime Bowen would do defending Leonard?

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Funny the difference in the two best defensive Sf's Spurs have ever had. One is uber talented, but a wuss. One is far less talented, but bulldog tough on and off the court. Kawhi was better, but Bruce will always be Silver and Black to the core.

Well said.

[superbigtime]

:rollinShit is comical at this point. Bruce’s comments were a mild critique; as were Tony’s, Manu’s and David’s. This desperate attempt to spin those quotes as attacks is just pathetic.

Absolutely embarrassing from an organization standpoint for the Clips, too: firing a guy who, months ago, criticized a player you would like to acquire in a year. I mean Jesus, have some integrity.

it's just pathetic.

[SouthTexasRancher]

To hell with both LaLa Land teams. May they both miss the playoffs this coming season. The Clips however, will not land Kawhitter.

[bic50]

Can't have someone around who might have hurt Kawhi's feelings. :cry

I swear, Nephew has the psyche of a fucking five year old.
doubt Kawhi had anything to do with his firing

[DMC]

I read somewhere that she was done with chemo. Best wishes to them though. I'm sure that was a tough call.

I'm sure it wasn't.

[DMC]

Can't have Bruce throwing shade at Kawhi as if he's a Spurs announcer. KL could very well want to play for the Clippers, and just Bruce being there could be the reason he wouldn't. Possibly they just used the comments as a misdirection, in reality they wanted to remove anything Spurs from the potential path of Kawhi Leonard.

[Ice009]

Jerry West must really like Kawhi. :hungry:

Jerry West absolutely loves Kawhi. I remember seeing a short clip of him a couple of years ago saying that Kawhi is one of his favourite players to watch, or he may have even said that he is his favourite player (I can't remember exactly what he said, but he's a huge Kawhi fan). You can bet your ass he wants Kawhi on his team over 99% of the rest of the players in the NBA.

[offset formation]

I'm sure it wasn't.

If what I read is true, then she's already been cleared of cancer. But perhaps you're correct...walk a day in his shoes and all.

[BatManu20]

Kawhi’s suckage getting former Spurs players fired smh.. unreal.

[BatManu20]

Kawhi will never be a Clipper. Bruce getting the axe for nothing. Fucking lame.

[anon]

Jerry West must really like Kawhi. :hungry:
Unironically this. We've known for quite some time now that Jerry thinks his organization has a shot at Kawhi. West knows who holds the power in today's league. Silver lining for the Spurs is we got another martyr from the glory days to circlejerk around.

Suit up Bow!

[R to the P McMurphy]

F kiwi. Long live Bruce.

[Stabula]

Tbh, a lot of our fans didn't like Bruce to begin with. People felt he didn't mesh well with Ralph. I didn't mind him because he was actually willing to be critical of Doc and Austin instead of toeing the company line (plus anyone's better than Mike Smith). But I'm not surprised that he's not coming back next season. Shitty reason to fire him, though - of course a former Spur is going to take the Spurs' side.

Not saying this in a mean-spirited way but honestly why do you still support this franchise at this point?

[Stabula]

Good firing tbqh

You cannot publicly bully a retard who cannot defend himself on the public stage. There are laws that protect invalids and retards.

Good on you clips

:lol

[venitian navigator]

what is weird is that I see till now nobody on tv having to say a word about that...and that's horrible because means that all these supposed journalist are ok about a firing just because somebody has expressed his legitimate opinion. I frankly think not only that's against the right of free speach and the right to have and express an opinion on facts, but also gives you the exact amount of credibility about a cathegory of journalist that don't rise up against a policy that deprive them of the only quality they should have alias express their real opinions of the matters they are gonna speak about.
That means they are just puppets with mouths ready to just say what somebody else already has told them to say.
So...no credibility at all and all these supposed journalist are simply trash...

[duncan2k5]

I doubt Bowen's comments were out of loyalty or that his firing was a directive from Leonard's representative(s).

The former was probably more so what we've seen from myriad Spurs alumni: They are proud to have had a hand, however small, in building the vaunted "culture" and contributing to the success that made this the premiere organization in sports the past 2 decades. Naturally, they don't want anyone (least of all, someone who was late to the party and who the organization had a sizable role in developing) attempting to denigrate it.

The latter was probably more so due diligence. The Clippers, like any organization believed to have a chance to sign a superstar or star, is going to do everything in their power to make that happen. And let's be honest, Bowen is easily disposable not just in terms of role, but in the fact that he's been affiliated with them for one measly season.

Finally someone with common sense

[duncan2k5]

You guys are being misled... Woj never said the clippers stated that as the reason they fired Bowen... He simply wrote two facts next to each other... Bowen criticized Kawhi... Months later his contract wasn't renewed... The rest is sheer speculation... Kawhi nor his team didn't order them to do anything... I doubt Kawhi cares what Bowen thinks... He isn't his teammate that he had played with for his entire career throwing him under the bus... This is simply the clippers doing what they feel is best to get Kawhi... Bowen was cringy as an analyst... Great Spur... But come o

[John B]

Clippers have a real shot at Kawhi and doesn’t want to scare him away. Such a wuss

[Othyus Lalanne]

Clippers have a real shot at Kawhi and doesn’t want to scare him away. Such a wuss

We have no idea if he would care or not.

[offset formation]

We have no idea if he would care or not.

Who is this "we" you speak of? You're a sac holder.

[Coach X]

Organizations giving players additional power, like if they didn't have enough in the NBA. Ironic.

[DAF86]

You guys are being misled... Woj never said the clippers stated that as the reason they fired Bowen... He simply wrote two facts next to each other... Bowen criticized Kawhi... Months later his contract wasn't renewed... The rest is sheer speculation... Kawhi nor his team didn't order them to do anything... I doubt Kawhi cares what Bowen thinks... He isn't his teammate that he had played with for his entire career throwing him under the bus... This is simply the clippers doing what they feel is best to get Kawhi... Bowen was cringy as an analyst... Great Spur... But come o

Why are you here still trying to defend Kawhi?

[exstatic]

Why are you here still trying to defend Kawhi?

Exactly. After seeing his butthurt over Parker's comments, West fired Bowen as a pre-emptive move for next summer. No one said that Kawhi told them to do this, but the fact remains that this was done to placate his sensitive ego.

[Clipper Nation]

Not saying this in a mean-spirited way but honestly why do you still support this franchise at this point?

At the end of the day, even with their tendency to be the corniest franchise in the league, the Clippers still have the richest owner in pro sports, the best executive in league history, and tons of cap space and flexibility starting next offseason. I was a fan during the Sterling era, and this is way better by comparison.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Unless Matt Bonner is fired theirs just no room for Bruce at spurs sports and entertainment.

[Uncle Dennis]

You guys are being misled... Woj never said the clippers stated that as the reason they fired Bowen... He simply wrote two facts next to each other... Bowen criticized Kawhi... Months later his contract wasn't renewed... The rest is sheer speculation... Kawhi nor his team didn't order them to do anything... I doubt Kawhi cares what Bowen thinks... He isn't his teammate that he had played with for his entire career throwing him under the bus... This is simply the clippers doing what they feel is best to get Kawhi... Bowen was cringy as an analyst... Great Spur... But come o

Nobody talks like that to my Son-figure.

[exstatic]

Unless Matt Bonner is fired theirs just no room for Bruce at spurs sports and entertainment.

Monaco moved on, so there's a spot on the pre and post game in-arena set.

[Othyus Lalanne]

Who is this "we" you speak of? You're a sac holder.

I am right regardless.

[daslicer]

Nobody talks like that to my Son-figure.

:lol

[TimDunkem]

Monaco moved on, so there's a spot on the pre and post game in-arena set.

No more Monaco has probably been the best news of the off-season so far.

[StinkyWeezleteats]

No more Monaco has probably been the best news of the off-season so far.

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/946368/Renner04_medium.jpg

This douche will still be around though. :makemyday

[bklynspursfan]

1029373846124670982

[Emperor]

LMAO

[TimDunkem]

Per my sources, Bowen has accepted the Zoo's offer. He starts next Monday.

[sasaint]

Monaco moved on, so there's a spot on the pre and post game in-arena set.

I thought they filled Monaco's slot with some announcer for the Rampage. If not, bring in Bruce. I always hated that he was associated with the Clips.

[sasaint]

I am sorry that Bruce got fired, but he will land on his feet. Great guy.

Beyond that, who cares? Clips doing Clips things. Nephew doing nephew things. The two deserve each other. Perhaps Number two can elevate the Clips to the same glorious heights that CP3 and Blake achieved. Oh, and I can't leave out DJordan.

[YGWHI]

clippers already maneuvering towards signing leonard.

"For the Clippers, eliminating Bowen becomes a clear message about how it plans to protect star players within the organization."

Not only Kawhi. The Clippers will have 2 max slots next season. Even if Kawhi doesn't sign with them, they could lure other stars with this speech "Unlike other franchises, we protect our stars from media attacks"

We should remember that OKC newspaper frontpage calling KD "Mr.Unreliable" in 2014 playoffs. Then San Francisco Examiner called him "Mr.Realiable" in 2017 playoffs.

Like it or not, media plays a role in players' decisions. And teams know it in 2018.

[sasaint]

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/946368/Renner04_medium.jpg

This douche will still be around though. :makemyday

Wow, his hair actually looked kinda like hair back then instead of some weird helmet.

[YGWHI]

I'd love for Kawhi to go to the Clippers. lol.
Agree. The Spurs need Kawhi on the Clippers, tbh.

Kawhi and LeBron together could be a thing, Kawhi on the Clips battling LAC roster's mediocrity alone, for the next four years, would benefit any other West team.

[Laker_1995]

Agree. The Spurs need Kawhi on the Clippers, tbh.

Kawhi and LeBron together could be a thing, Kawhi on the Clips battling LAC roster's mediocrity alone, for the next four years, would benefit any other West team.

i prefer Kawahi on the lakers lol 😂

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

The NBA is getting tough to watch. Protecting all the prima donna's really makes the game no fun. It used to be the only guy getting the star treatment was MJ, and his treatment was nothing compared to what even the second tier superstars are getting today. Lame. The NBA has been my pro sport choice for most of my life...mostly because of the Spurs and their throwback style to when players respected their coaches and were approachable and real. Kawhi has done his best to destroy that shred of connection to the "Spurs Way". It may never be the same.

[YGWHI]

A lot of stars these days are coddled bitches, but none I’ve seen are even close to the level Kawhi’s at. Saying “that’s just how it is these days” is dumb; there are plenty star-level players that have demonstrated loyalty and don’t cause drama

:lol

In top 10 level, only Curry, Russ and Davis are still on teams that drafted them. But we'll see how end AD's 2019 offseason, despite a possible $230M extension no one knows if he really wants to stay in NO or win a title with a contender.

[Pavlov]

"For the Clippers, eliminating Bowen becomes a clear message about how it plans to protect star players within the organization."

Not only Kawhi. The Clippers will have 2 max slots next season. Even if Kawhi doesn't sign with them, they could lure other stars with this speech "Unlike other franchises, we protect our stars from media attacks"

We should remember that OKC newspaper frontpage calling KD "Mr.Unreliable" in 2014 playoffs. Then San Francisco Examiner called him "Mr.Realiable" in 2017 playoffs.

Like it or not, media plays a role in players' decisions. And teams know it in 2018.Especially snowflakes like Kawhi.

[YGWHI]

Especially snowflakes like Kawhi.
Don't be that salty :D

You already know that EVERY star in this league hates media criticism.

I remember LeBron saying 'I stopped caring a long time ago' then he started replying every media quote in the same interview...

Or Westbrook refusing to talk with some media guys in locker room...I also remember him blocking a media question in a post-game interview with 'next question'...

[CitizenDwayne]

:lol

In top 10 level, only Curry, Russ and Davis are still on teams that drafted them. But we'll see how end AD's 2019 offseason, despite a possible $230M extension no one knows if he really wants to stay in NO or win a title with a contender.

I didn’t say they had to stay on 1 team their entire career; just that Durant and Kawhi are pretty much in their own league in terms of being coddled divas. It’s unfair to judge the entire nba by them

[YGWHI]

I didn’t say they had to stay on 1 team their entire career; just that Durant and Kawhi are pretty much in their own league in terms of being coddled divas. It’s unfair to judge the entire nba by them
I don't jugde the whole league. You talked about stars, like it or not, most stars are divas. If you don't think that LeBron, Russ, Harden, CP3 are divas, I can't help.

[CitizenDwayne]

I don't jugde the whole league. You talked about stars, like it or not, most stars are divas. If you don't think that LeBron, Russ, Harden, CP3 are divas, I can't help.

Lebron I’ll give you. The others, I don’t really see many examples of their organizations coddling them. Preferential treatment is different than letting a star dictate everything about your organization, which Kawhi seems to be doing with a team he doesn’t even play for yet

[Bill_Brasky]

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/946368/Renner04_medium.jpg

This douche will still be around though. :makemyday

Lmao, i remember this guy after a game against Detroit poking fun at Sean Elliott for never making trips up north, Sean didn't miss a beat and told him "it's OK, i brought my coat made of Rick Renner hair".

[YGWHI]

The NBA is getting tough to watch. Protecting all the prima donna's really makes the game no fun. It used to be the only guy getting the star treatment was MJ, and his treatment was nothing compared to what even the second tier superstars are getting today. Lame. The NBA has been my pro sport choice for most of my life...mostly because of the Spurs and their throwback style to when players respected their coaches and were approachable and real. Kawhi has done his best to destroy that shred of connection to the "Spurs Way".

Like it or not, Kawhi just did what was the best for himself like everyone does in his life.

IT said that Kawhi protected his body and career, he regrets playing injured, now he thinks he should have sat in playoffs.
If Kawhi thought that playing last season would aggravate his injury, he did the right thing.
If Kawhi for misdiagnosis/not getting super-max/big market thing/whatever reason, asked for a trade, he did the right thing for his career, too.

On these days, a player has to do the best for his career. I don't blame him for that because in my work, I won't put the interest of my boss or the company over my career.


It may never be the same.
Fans tend to overreact.

We shouldn't forget that a season after the retirement of the best franchise player a team had in NBA history, the Spurs made WCF in a very Spurs' way: flying under the radar with a quiet best guy.

Don't worry....The Spurs are and will be the Spurs, always.

[Pavlov]

Don't be that salty :D

You already know that EVERY star in this league hates media criticism.

I remember LeBron saying 'I stopped caring a long time ago' then he started replying every media quote in the same interview...

Or Westbrook refusing to talk with some media guys in locker room...I also remember him blocking a media question in a post-game interview with 'next question'...So other players are snowflakes too.

[YGWHI]

Lebron I’ll give you. The others, I don’t really see many examples of their organizations coddling them. Preferential treatment is different than letting a star dictate everything about your organization, which Kawhi seems to be doing with a team he doesn’t even play for yet

I really doubt Kawhi or his camp called them "Clips, fire Bowen, that guy hates Kawhi". Nah...LAC are doing this for two reasons, a-Bruce wasn't exactly a great analyst and Clips transmissions need a change, b-the team wants to send a message to Kawhi and FAs...."We'll protect you from media attack"

[YGWHI]

So other players don't like media criticism.
Finally you get it, bro :tu

[SpursDynasty85]

Like it or not, Kawhi just did what was the best for himself like everyone does in his life.

IT said that Kawhi protected his body and career, he regrets playing injured, now he thinks he should have sat in playoffs.
If Kawhi thought that playing last season would aggravate his injury, he did the right thing.
If Kawhi for misdiagnosis/not getting super-max/big market thing/whatever reason, asked for a trade, he did the right thing for his career, too.

On these days, a player has to do the best for his career. I don't blame him for that because in my work, I won't put the interest of my boss or the company over my career.


Fans tend to overreact.

We shouldn't forget that a season after the retirement of the best franchise player a team had in NBA history, the Spurs made WCF in a very Spurs' way: flying under the radar with a quiet best guy.

Don't worry....The Spurs are and will be the Spurs, always.

The Spurs were not trying to rush Kawhi back. Read an article that stated PATFO wanted to call him out for the rest of the season but played along with Kawhi and his group's notion that he would be back before the playoffs. If you recall everyone was frustrated at that time. Spurs were losing games and about to miss the playoffs and the rest of the team needed to come together to make a playoff push. Kawhi and his group telling everyone he is coming back this day, NOT, ok this day, NOT. It almost seemed like they were trying to sabotage the season. The players got frustrated and decided to make it clear. "If you are not ready. Go to NY and rehab. We understand" Franchise players should be there to support there teammates not frustrate the hell out of them during a playoff run.

Secondly, I have tried my best to give Kawhi the benefit of doubt but to me it's obvious his uncle and agent just wanted him out of SA. lawsuits, agency, and uncle dennis rumors are enough for me. Way more than all this petty media bs about exagerrated quotes from Pop, Ginobili, and Parker.

I will say one thing in Kawhi's defense. When your dealing with media, billionaires, hollywood, family, suspect agencies etc... it must be extremely hard. This sort of pressure is not normal and 90% of Spurstalk members would crumble under this kind of pressure for professional athletes. 90% of the people NBA players meet are trying to take advantage of them not to mention media circus and fan pressure to perform at games. I understand why players want to be protected to and they should be. It is a nasty and dirty game they are all playing.

[CitizenDwayne]

I really doubt Kawhi or his camp called them "Clips, fire Bowen, that guy hates Kawhi". Nah...LAC are doing this for two reasons, a-Bruce wasn't exactly a great analyst and Clips transmissions need a change, b-the team wants to send a message to Kawhi and FAs...."We'll protect you from media attack"
Lol “media attack”

[Clipper Nation]

Lebron I’ll give you. The others, I don’t really see many examples of their organizations coddling them. Preferential treatment is different than letting a star dictate everything about your organization, which Kawhi seems to be doing with a team he doesn’t even play for yet
The Clippers definitely coddled CP0 - that's why we have Doc instead of a real coach.

[YGWHI]

The Spurs were not trying to rush Kawhi back. Read an article that stated PATFO wanted to call him out for the rest of the season but played along with Kawhi and his group's notion that he would be back before the playoffs. If you recall everyone was frustrated at that time. Spurs were losing games and about to miss the playoffs and the rest of the team needed to come together to make a playoff push. Kawhi and his group telling everyone he is coming back this day, NOT, ok this day, NOT. It almost seemed like they were trying to sabotage the season.
Saying he was trying to sabotage the season seems a bit ridiculous. What benefit he would have gotten sabotaging their season...RC, Danny Green, Pop, Kawhi, everyone said his rehab wasn't linear, he felt fine one day, he felt pain the next day...At this point, people should get that some problematic injuries act this way.

Also, it's not like he said "I'll return this season" but he didn't do anything for...Most media guys said Kawhi was doing crazy workouts to get his quad right to return last season, working hard every day in NBPA. People here like he opted to sit and went home to eat tacos while watching Spurs' games on TV.


The players got frustrated and decided to make it clear. "If you are not ready. Go to NY and rehab. We understand" Franchise players should be there to support there teammates not frustrate the hell out of them during a playoff run.
When players are rehabbing they're in other cities, like Hayward was in Indiana the whole playoffs games until the last game or Boogie in Las Vegas. On other hand, it's pretty obvious that Kawhi could have handled this better.


Secondly, I have tried my best to give Kawhi the benefit of doubt but to me it's obvious his uncle and agent just wanted him out of SA. lawsuits, agency, and uncle dennis rumors are enough for me. Way more than all this petty media bs about exagerrated quotes from Pop, Ginobili, and Parker.
I'm not sure his camp wanted him out since day 1, his greedy uncle would have signed a supermax extension. That's why we read Jabari tweets saying they were in a healing stage of relationship with the Spurs and ready to sign the extension. Big market are nice, $220M "nicer"

Anyway, I still think that Spurs' shouldn't let that frustration make them say the wrong things in public. I've said this before, it doesn't matter if it's Kawhi, LeBron or Harden, teammates don't question the franchise player in front media. I think "don't wash dirty laundry in public" applies to any team, Spurs included.


I will say one thing in Kawhi's defense. When your dealing with media, billionaires, hollywood, family, suspect agencies etc... it must be extremely hard. This sort of pressure is not normal and 90% of Spurstalk members would crumble under this kind of pressure for professional athletes. 90% of the people NBA players meet are trying to take advantage of them not to mention media circus and fan pressure to perform at games. I understand why players want to be protected to and they should be. It is a nasty and dirty game they are all playing.
Good point.

[Pavlov]

Finally you get it, bro :tuI already knew that Kawhi wasn't the only snowflake out there, thanks.

[YGWHI]

I already knew that Kawhi wasn't the only snowflake out there, thanks.
What makes you happy...

[Pavlov]

What makes you happy...It doesn't make me happy nor sad.

It just is.

Kawhi is a snowflake.

[davidbowie]

bruce is goddamn legend forever in my eyes.

kawhi you bum!!!!

[SpursDynasty85]

Saying he was trying to sabotage the season seems a bit ridiculous. What benefit he would have gotten sabotaging their season...RC, Danny Green, Pop, Kawhi, everyone said his rehab wasn't linear, he felt fine one day, he felt pain the next day...At this point, people should get that some problematic injuries act this way.

Also, it's not like he said "I'll return this season" but he didn't do anything for...Most media guys said Kawhi was doing crazy workouts to get his quad right to return last season, working hard every day in NBPA. People here like he opted to sit and went home to eat tacos while watching Spurs' games on TV.

Easy to answer if you want to be open to this idea. The media seemed dead set and ready to pounce on anything negative that came out of the Spurs locker room or out of Management's mouth. It was quite ridiculous. If your entourage and yourself are being completely hard headed "not answering phone calls or texts in china, not wanting to listen to Spurs and in doing so making his nephew walk through freaking New Orleans streets to make the all star game, doing crazy workouts but not making yourself available during the last playoff push in MARCH, shopping 6 or 7 doctors, hiding a rehabilitating player that is making $18M from you this year" all this was bound to make any organization frustrated. Once things starting to come out of the Spurs mouth "player's meeting" Pop's famous "ask his group", Stephen Jackson and Cris Carter pounced and the narrative was set. This made way for serious franchise derailing. Have a cancer enter into your locker room next season on a 1 yr contract or trade him for peanuts because he is being the most unwilling complicated super star to trade since "Kobe in 2007".


When players are rehabbing they're in other cities, like Hayward was in Indiana the whole playoffs games until the last game or Boogie in Las Vegas. On other hand, it's pretty obvious that Kawhi could have handled this better.

This is freaking obvious! How can you blindly defend this man who clearly has a greedy uncle and a VERY suspect AGENT? explain this to me. Why? Why glare over lawsuits, fishy payroll schemes, suddenly rejecting $20M shoes deals from a guy who still drove a 97 trailblazer? His uncle has been calling the shots.

Secondly, if the Spurs misdiagnosed him. So what? That doesn't mean you act unprofessional and isolate yourself from the team and sneak jabs at everyone via Stephen Jackson, Jalen Rose, Cris Carter. (still doesn't sound fishy and possibly blackmail/sabotage?)



I'm not sure his camp wanted him out since day 1, his greedy uncle would have signed a supermax extension. That's why we read Jabari tweets saying they were in a healing stage of relationship with the Spurs and ready to sign the extension. Big market are nice, $220M "nicer"

Rumors were pretty clear any extension they were going to sign needed to have "No trade clause". It was their best play to get the most money. Their contract was up in a year anyway to the rule of not trading a player after a year after signing a Supermax would not be effective anyway and once they put that No Trade Clause in, your left with an isolated $50M/yr player with a crazy uncle, mysterious injury, and someone that does not appear to support his teammates when it matters the most. - Spurs will always take the high road when talking about Kawhi but you know it was frustrating when your franchise player needed 6 or 7 doctor appointments to find the right diagnosis and is screwing with your playoff run. The player's meeting happened for a reason. It was clear they were frustrated at Kawhi's camp being flaky at a time when they needed to know who they had for the playoff run.


Anyway, I still think that Spurs' shouldn't let that frustration make them say the wrong things in public. I've said this before, it doesn't matter if it's Kawhi, LeBron or Harden, teammates don't question the franchise player in front media. I think "don't wash dirty laundry in public" applies to any team, Spurs included.


THEY NEVER DID. Protected him as long as they could. Literally their culture and credibility being attacked made them leak some stuff to Michael Wright and a few local media over the offseason. Pop and players are always professional anything they said was just twisted by the media.

[YGWHI]

It doesn't make me happy nor sad.
If you say so...

Fans have different ways to deal with these situations because losing a top player never is good. People get angry, they want his career ends abruptly, wish him the worst in this world...At some point, they accept he's not on their favorite team anymore, then they barely remember him, and finally move on.

It's a process with different stages...You just need to know, I'll support you all the way.


Kawhi is a snowflake.
Repeating a thing several times doesn't make it true.

Anyway, I'm a very empathetic person, I know you need this..."Snowflake, snowflake, little snowflake, snowflake falling from the sky..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c-pm_6kvyU

[YGWHI]

Easy to answer if you want to be open to this idea.
I truly believe that Kawhi was injured. We all know he had issues in his quad before.


The media seemed dead set and ready to pounce on anything negative that came out of the Spurs locker room or out of Management's mouth. It was quite ridiculous. If your entourage and yourself are being completely hard headed "not answering phone calls or texts in china, not wanting to listen to Spurs and in doing so making his nephew walk through freaking New Orleans streets to make the all star game, doing crazy workouts but not making yourself available during the last playoff push in MARCH, shopping 6 or 7 doctors, hiding a rehabilitating player that is making $18M from you this year" all this was bound to make any organization frustrated. Once things starting to come out of the Spurs mouth "player's meeting" Pop's famous "ask his group", Stephen Jackson and Cris Carter pounced and the narrative was set. This made way for serious franchise derailing. Have a cancer enter into your locker room next season on a 1 yr contract or trade him for peanuts because he is being the most unwilling complicated super star to trade since "Kobe in 2007".

Well, if you buy that a guy who loved to drive a '97 Tahoe would care about other star's limos...Or he shoppoing 7 doctors...


How can you blindly defend this man who clearly has a greedy uncle and a VERY suspect AGENT? explain this to me. Why? Why glare over lawsuits, fishy payroll schemes, suddenly rejecting $20M shoes deals from a guy who still drove a 97 trailblazer? His uncle has been calling the shots.
I'm not defending him, it's just my point of view.
I guess, everyone has a toxic family member. Some people could deal with it, others not. I wouldn't blame him for the sins of his fam.


Secondly, if the Spurs misdiagnosed him. So what? That doesn't mean you act unprofessional and isolate yourself from the team and sneak jabs at everyone via Stephen Jackson, Jalen Rose, Cris Carter. (still doesn't sound fishy and possibly blackmail/sabotage?)
I doubt that Kawhi even talks with Cris Carter. That guy is close to Kawhi's agent and his uncle, not the player.

If a pro player got mad because team's doctors misdiagnosed him or mishandled his injury, how can you blame him for that? It's his body and career at risk...


Rumors were pretty clear any extension they were going to sign needed to have "No trade clause". It was their best play to get the most money. Their contract was up in a year anyway to the rule of not trading a player after a year after signing a Supermax would not be effective anyway and once they put that No Trade Clause in, your left with an isolated $50M/yr player with a crazy uncle, mysterious injury, and someone that does not appear to support his teammates when it matters the most. - Spurs will always take the high road when talking about Kawhi but you know it was frustrating when your franchise player needed 6 or 7 doctor appointments to find the right diagnosis and is screwing with your playoff run. The player's meeting happened for a reason. It was clear they were frustrated at Kawhi's camp being flaky at a time when they needed to know who they had for the playoff run.

This is your version of why the Spurs didn't give him an extension but still makes my point his camp didn't want him out since day 1, they would have signed a supermax contract.


THEY NEVER DID. Protected him as long as they could. Literally their culture and credibility being attacked made them leak some stuff to Michael Wright and a few local media over the offseason. Pop and players are always professional anything they said was just twisted by the media.
Who knows. "my injury was 100 times worse than..." is different than "I didn't see him yet but I wish him a full and quick recovery". I guess the latter wouldn't bother anyone.

[BillMc]

SA Zoo looking out for Bruce
https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/look-sa-zoo-looking-to-hire-bruce-bowen



Dear Bruce Bowen,
WE’RE HIRING and you can have any job you want here! We’re also providing you a famous private parking spot for all of your honest & insightful player analysis & assessment capabilities.

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[Twisted_Dawg]

I wonder if the Clips will give Uncle Pennis a front office job to entice Kawhi?

[Twisted_Dawg]

I wonder if the Clips will give Uncle Pennis a front office job to entice Kawhi?

[SpursDynasty85]

I wonder if the Clips will give Uncle Pennis a front office job to entice Kawhi?

Probably going to be an interview and decision on who can coddle Uncle Dennis the most.

[SpursDynasty85]

I truly believe that Kawhi was injured. We all know he had issues in his quad before.



Well, if you buy that a guy who loved to drive a '97 Tahoe would care about other star's limos...Or he shoppoing 7 doctors...


I'm not defending him, it's just my point of view.
I guess, everyone has a toxic family member. Some people could deal with it, others not. I wouldn't blame him for the sins of his fam.


I doubt that Kawhi even talks with Cris Carter. That guy is close to Kawhi's agent and his uncle, not the player.

If a pro player got mad because team's doctors misdiagnosed him or mishandled his injury, how can you blame him for that? It's his body and career at risk...



This is your version of why the Spurs didn't give him an extension but still makes my point his camp didn't want him out since day 1, they would have signed a supermax contract.


Who knows. "my injury was 100 times worse than..." is different than "I didn't see him yet but I wish him a full and quick recovery". I guess the latter wouldn't bother anyone.

The point is the outrage by Spurs fans is understandable. I do not condone using nasty language and hateful comments but strong criticism is warranted for Kawhi's group at the least and largely Kawhi for letting it happen. To criticize the Spurs before Kawhi is ridiculous considering the unprofessionalism shown by him and his entourage.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Like it or not, Kawhi just did what was the best for himself like everyone does in his life.

IT said that Kawhi protected his body and career, he regrets playing injured, now he thinks he should have sat in playoffs.
If Kawhi thought that playing last season would aggravate his injury, he did the right thing.
If Kawhi for misdiagnosis/not getting super-max/big market thing/whatever reason, asked for a trade, he did the right thing for his career, too.

On these days, a player has to do the best for his career. I don't blame him for that because in my work, I won't put the interest of my boss or the company over my career.


Fans tend to overreact.

We shouldn't forget that a season after the retirement of the best franchise player a team had in NBA history, the Spurs made WCF in a very Spurs' way: flying under the radar with a quiet best guy.

Don't worry....The Spurs are and will be the Spurs, always.

Kawhi’s sitting out wasn’t the problem. If you didn’t show up for work and didn’t communicate with your boss you’d be fired. Kawhi’s lack of professionalism is what I object to.

[Pavlov]

If you say so...

Fans have different ways to deal with these situations because losing a top player never is good. People get angry, they want his career ends abruptly, wish him the worst in this world...At some point, they accept he's not on their favorite team anymore, then they barely remember him, and finally move on.

It's a process with different stages...You just need to know, I'll support you all the way.


Repeating a thing several times doesn't make it true.

Anyway, I'm a very empathetic person, I know you need this..."Snowflake, snowflake, little snowflake, snowflake falling from the sky..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c-pm_6kvyU
lol you're the one in denial. You're never going to grow out of that stage.

You can't even admit you're defending him. Sad.

[YGWHI]

lol you're the one in denial. You're never going to grow out of that stage.

You can't even admit you're defending him. Sad.

In this thread a guy posted that players get more and more power... That's the difference between you and me. I don't find it's a bad thing.

Players are on the court, they have the ball, they score/defend...They make me keep excited about this league, like in a roman circus they're the gladiators that entertain me, not the owners of NBA teams.

I'm not defending him. I truly believe what I'm posting...I always tend to take the player's side in a conflict because owners have their own businesses, but a player only has his body and career.

[Pavlov]

In this thread a guy posted that players get more and more power... That's the difference between you and me. I don't find it's a bad thing.

Players are on the court, they have the ball, they score/defend...They make me keep excited about this league, like in a roman circus they're the gladiators that entertain me, not the owners of NBA teams.

I'm not defending him. I truly believe what I'm posting...I always tend to take the player's side in a conflict because owners have their own businesses, but a player only has his body and career.I truly believe Kawhi is a snowflake.

It's a bad thing.

You like it.

Good for you.

[YGWHI]

Kawhi’s sitting out wasn’t the problem. If you didn’t show up for work and didn’t communicate with your boss you’d be fired. Kawhi’s lack of professionalism is what I object to.

I've said that he could have handled this way better, no doubt. But most fans have issues with Kawhi sitting out, they think he faked an injury when it's known his quad problem. I was talking about those fans, that's why that's IT quote.

Don't want to sound like Jonathon Simmons but "communicate is key". I agree with you on that.
When I heard that DRob or any other in the organization say, they barely talk with him or they can "count on one hand how many words he's really said" to them in his 7 years as a Spur...I wonder why this was a problem last season, but it wasn't in the previous six years? I mean, why did the organization let this happen during 6 years?
If they did nothing in the previous 6 years to change this situation and they just let Kawhi being "quiet", they shouldn't use it as part of the problem, now. Otherwise, it sounds like they realized just last season that the lack of communication was a big deal, which sounds a bit naive for a sport organization like the Spurs.

[StinkyWeezleteats]

Lmao, i remember this guy after a game against Detroit poking fun at Sean Elliott for never making trips up north, Sean didn't miss a beat and told him "it's OK, i brought my coat made of Rick Renner hair".

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol I vaguely recall that. It looks like a porcupine crawled on top of his head and died.

[Dejounte]

I've said that he could have handled this way better, no doubt. But most fans have issues with Kawhi sitting out, they think he faked an injury when it's known his quad problem. I was talking about those fans, that's why that's IT quote.

Don't want to sound like Jonathon Simmons but "communicate is key". I agree with you on that.
When I heard that DRob or any other in the organization say, they barely talk with him or they can "count on one hand how many words he's really said" to them in his 7 years as a Spur...I wonder why this was a problem last season, but it wasn't in the previous six years? I mean, why did the organization let this happen during 6 years?
If they did nothing in the previous 6 years to change this situation and they just let Kawhi being "quiet", they shouldn't use it as part of the problem, now. Otherwise, it sounds like they realized just last season that the lack of communication was a big deal, which sounds a bit naive for a sport organization like the Spurs.

Nah, I believe the Spurs didn't use it as an excuse but that Kawhi took it to another level of silence this past year to the point of AWOL. That's when it became a problem for the Spurs. There's no defending Kawhi here, and there are only 2% of fans who believe there's a conspiracy regarding his injury vs the 98% who are mad at Kawhi for being shady/ flaky as hell this past season.

[TheDoctor]

Nah, I believe the Spurs didn't use it as an excuse but that Kawhi took it to another level of silence this past year to the point of AWOL. That's when it became a problem for the Spurs. There's no defending Kawhi here, and there are only 2% of fans who believe there's a conspiracy regarding his injury vs the 98% who are mad at Kawhi for being shady/ flaky as hell this past season.

[KlAWKLAMP Redemption]

How ridiculous are the Clippers going to feel when they discover they exposed their unprofessional silly selfs to impress a system player that Kawhi will prove himself to be? Oh never mind,wait...it’s the Clippers so it’s a union made in basketball heaven!

[james evans]

great another Kawai thread disguised as a Bowen thread.

[acoelho1]

The issue was never about an injury or misdiagnosis. It’s about a player that severely lacks the communication skills necessary to manage any sort of hardship. In addition, you have his camp purposely trying to sabotage the relationship and when you put the 2 together, the outcome is a trade that no one saw coming a year ago. This was the oddest situation I’ve ever seen in sports in terms of a divorce. It’s very disappointing but it’s probably time to move on. I think we will never get the complete answer on this but I truly believe the Spurs acted in Kawhi’s best interest and their camp took advantage of the situation. I think in time Kawhi will regret his decision.

[YGWHI]

Nah, I believe the Spurs didn't use it as an excuse but that Kawhi took it to another level of silence this past year to the point of AWOL. That's when it became a problem for the Spurs. There's no defending Kawhi here, and there are only 2% of fans who believe there's a conspiracy regarding his injury vs the 98% who are mad at Kawhi for being shady/ flaky as hell this past season.

I get this. I just wonder how it became an issue las season but wasn't in previous years when people in the organization are saying he didn't talk with them in those 6 years either.

It was pretty obvious they had a communication problem and that issue could deteriorate every relationship.

I guess that's the reason why the team had issues reading their best players situations in last seasons.
Pop said he didn't know about LMA feelings until he asked for a trade in 2017 summer...

I'm just saying I expect everyone learn from these last two offseasons.

[exstatic]

I get this. I just wonder how it became an issue las season but wasn't in previous years when people in the organization are saying he didn't talk with them in those 6 years either.

It was pretty obvious they had a communication problem and that issue could deteriorate every relationship.

I guess that's the reason why the team had issues reading their best players situations in last seasons.
Pop said he didn't know about LMA feelings until he asked for a trade in 2017 summer...

I'm just saying I expect everyone learn from these last two offseasons.

They made the same mistake that a lot of us did. They thought his quietness was akin to Duncan's, and that he would eventually open up, not turn on the team. LMA and Pop had their issues, but they sat down, talked, and worked it out. KL either is incapable of that, or he's not the one in control of his group. My 'aha' moment was the phone video when Uncle Fester LITERALLY took Kawhi by the hand and led him away from some Spurs fans in NYC.

[blizz]

I just heard Buce on the DP Show. Straight from his mouth. The clipper’s management flat out told him that he was getting fired because of what he said about kawitter and that they didn’t agree and couldn’t take any chances. They literally told him he was fired because of what he said. So to those who said that’s not what happened, fuck you.

[FireMicoHalili]

Bowen had a final shot at the Clippers when Patrick told him that someone with the Clippers said Bowen knew he should not have been talking about Leonard because they wanted to sign the former Spurs all-star forward, and have a difficult time getting free agents to Los Angeles. “If you can’t get free agents in California, in Los Angeles that is, that has nothing to do with Bruce Bowen, that has more to do with the organization,” Bowen said (https://www.ksat.com/sports/nba/spurs/bruce-bowen-speaks-out-after-losing-job-over-kawhi-comments-takes-aim-at-clippers).
Full article: https://www.ksat.com/sports/nba/spurs/bruce-bowen-speaks-out-after-losing-job-over-kawhi-comments-takes-aim-at-clippers

soundbite makes a ton of sense

[Killakobe81]

Bowen had a final shot at the Clippers when Patrick told him that someone with the Clippers said Bowen knew he should not have been talking about Leonard because they wanted to sign the former Spurs all-star forward, and have a difficult time getting free agents to Los Angeles. “If you can’t get free agents in California, in Los Angeles that is, that has nothing to do with Bruce Bowen, that has more to do with the organization,” Bowen said (https://www.ksat.com/sports/nba/spurs/bruce-bowen-speaks-out-after-losing-job-over-kawhi-comments-takes-aim-at-clippers).
Full article: https://www.ksat.com/sports/nba/spurs/bruce-bowen-speaks-out-after-losing-job-over-kawhi-comments-takes-aim-at-clippers

soundbite makes a ton of sense

Damn, Bowen went in...
Clippers gonna Clip...

[MoSpur02]

Just listened to Bowen on the DP Show. I'm glad he didn't back down. This says a lot about the Clippers organization and not in a good way. Kawhi seems even more sensitive than what I initially thought. His camp definitely had something to do with the firing of Bruce Bowen. Dude is more of a cupcake than KD.

[LCM]

My 'aha' moment was the phone video when Uncle Fester LITERALLY took Kawhi by the hand and led him away from some Spurs fans in NYC.[/QUOTE]

Is there any way to see that footage? Website? Twitter?

[Fusternino]

Is there any way to see that footage? Website? Twitter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBujjzhh1vQ

Pretty sure this is the original upload.

[LCM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBujjzhh1vQ

Pretty sure this is the original upload.

Thank you! Never saw that before. That's incredible.

[YGWHI]

?They thought his quietness was akin to Duncan's
It's silly to think they were that stupid to do something like that. DRob said that most people in the organization can "count on one hand how many words Kawhi's really said" to them in 7 years as Spur.
I doubt that Tim didn't talk with them in his first 7 years in SA.


They made the same mistake that a lot of us did. ... LMA and Pop had their issues, but they sat down, talked, and worked it out.

But they aren't fans like us, they're an NBA team with people that have to deal with this situations better than us. The communication issue they had with their two best players was a mistake.

In two situations, the team could fix one. And like Pop said, they didn't trade LMA just because they wouldn't get great offers for him "I told him, 'I'd be happy to trade you. You get me a talent like Kevin Durant, and I'll drive you to the airport" Who knows if LMA would be on the team if they would have gotten an All Star for him like DeRozan.

I'm glad they could solve the issue with LMA but it doesn't change the fact that he asked for a trade while Pop "ignored" what was happening to his player.
I wonder what happened to "CIA" Pop in last years, the coach that knew everything about his players on/off court...

Again, they're not reading well situations and had communications issues.

For the sake of the team, I just expect everyone learned from these last two summers, and the Spurs change their approach to relationship-building with today NBA stars.

There isn't a Tim Duncan anymore. The Spurs can't expect players to be like him or the rest of the Big3. The league has changed and players, esp stars have changed too.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

:jack