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Gino-Step
08-15-2018, 11:45 PM
It's been 4/5 years since I made my comments about all length lineups and the then upcoming devaluation of traditional PG's and C's.
Have been following the NBA closely these years but have spent most of my time building startups.

The NBA is going to have an identity crisis soon. The way they have designed the league, it is becoming less diversified despite the game becoming more global. How many Chinese players have entered since Yao? When you run a rule set that encourages 6'7 players with 7'3 wingspans, you will have monolithic athlete types where Tony Snell gets drafted just because he looks like Kawhi and Giannis' brothers get a chance because they are tall and long also.

As advanced stats practitioners like Hinkie and Morey have caught up to this thought process and begun executing the plan, you've seen a homogeneity developing in the NBA that if left unchanged will ruin this sport in the years to come. Carmelo for as much flack as we give him, is forced to play basketball like a 24 year old 3 and D player because quite frankly all 5 positions must now play 3 and D. That will get boring real fast.

This is why Greg Popovich hates the three pointer. It's not because he's old school. It's because he is a visionary and sees the crisis coming.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/gregg-popovich-on-the-3-pointer-i-still-hate-it-ill-never-embrace-it/

The solution to this is not moving the three point line back or putting in a 4 pointer. That would make it worse. It would further require longer wingspan players as they'd have to cover an even further apart surface area (near the rim, and even farther beyond the line). Football, Hockey, Soccer, have broad appeal because they designed their ruleset to encourage the offence to attack the defence. A goal is a goal no matter where you score from and a touchdown is a touchdown no matter where you throw from. This encourages concentrated action near the goal line / goal which sparks physical competition instead of this 3 ball dart throwing which is more similar to penalty kicks and field goals. Gimmicks. Without the 3 point line, we would see a greater genetic diversity of players like before with Wilt / Russell / Kareem / Yao contrasting to Bob Cousy, John Stockton, Isiah Thomas, Pete Maravich.

The entire surface area of around 30 feet from the hoop would be in play as all shots count the same rather than just at the rim and just around this made up 22-23 foot line. This would inspire a renaissance in creativity with floaters, fades, cuts, picks, and passes.

I am hopeful either the NBA adopts this change or we will see a new challenger that goes retro on the rule set.

Bynumite
08-15-2018, 11:57 PM
Nope :nope

You gonna watch Lasoft, Derozanus and Rudy Faggot shooting inefficient iso midrange fadeaways all season long and you gonna love it.

Lets's call it "The Beautiful Game 2.0" ;);)

Holden_Caulfield
08-16-2018, 12:01 AM
i propose the 4 pt shot because thats whats exciting nowadays and halfcourt shots are 5 pts.

Walter Donovan
08-16-2018, 12:02 AM
I propose we get rid of the 2 point shot OP. You only score points if you shoot from beyond the 3-point line.

midnightpulp
08-16-2018, 05:26 AM
Just make it where it actually is a high risk/reward scenario, as it was intended to be. It was once basketball's Hail Mary play. Move the line back to like 40 feet. A good league wide 3 point average should be in the range of 20-25% for balance purposes. We're all yelling out clouds, though. The NBA found its formula.

Spurtacular
08-16-2018, 10:36 PM
Just make it where it actually is a high risk/reward scenario, as it was intended to be. It was once basketball's Hail Mary play. Move the line back to like 40 feet. A good league wide 3 point average should be in the range of 20-25% for balance purposes. We're all yelling out clouds, though. The NBA found its formula.

Yea, I don't see it changing. I actually think this helps mitigate athleticism; Spurs shouldn't be complaining.

Stabula
08-17-2018, 12:48 AM
I agree with OP 100% but also agree the NBA isn't changing shit anytime soon. As long as they're making loads of cash, why rock the boat?

Caltex2
08-17-2018, 09:54 AM
Move it back 2-3 feet. Problem solved.

TheRemix
08-17-2018, 09:56 AM
Its not broke. So why fix it? NBA is a business and it's growing exponentially

Raven
08-18-2018, 04:15 AM
I think they should get rid of hand checking fouls outside of the 3point line, as it has become too hard to defend.

DMC
08-18-2018, 09:07 AM
Nope :nope

You gonna watch Lasoft, Derozanus and Rudy Faggot shooting inefficient iso midrange fadeaways all season long and you gonna love it.

Lets's call it "The Beautiful Game 2.0" ;);)

Because Lebron is a knock down 3pt shooter :lol

Spurtacular
08-20-2018, 10:48 PM
I propose we get rid of the 2 point shot OP. You only score points if you shoot from beyond the 3-point line.

Isn't that what we have now?

JohnnyMax
08-20-2018, 11:12 PM
Spurs fans are salty Warriors keep beating Lebron, who they only root for because they hate Kobe.

Captain Marvel
08-21-2018, 02:10 AM
I like the three point shot. I disagree, OP.

Stabula
08-21-2018, 03:54 AM
https://beliotblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/ma5.jpg

Walter Donovan
08-21-2018, 12:59 PM
Isn't that what we have now?

No. As of right now, players can still score 2-pointers inside the 3-point line. My proposal would eliminate that.

Caltex2
08-21-2018, 02:34 PM
No. As of right now, players can still score 2-pointers inside the 3-point line. My proposal would eliminate that.

He's joking...

Walter Donovan
08-21-2018, 06:32 PM
He's joking...

Joking about what?

Caltex2
08-22-2018, 12:15 PM
He's saying no one shoots 2's anymore, just 3's, which metaphorically is true.

Walter Donovan
08-23-2018, 12:23 PM
He's saying no one shoots 2's anymore, just 3's, which metaphorically is true.

False. Lots of players still dunk and shoot lay-ups. Those are 2-point shots and NOT 3-point shots.

MarCowMar
08-23-2018, 12:33 PM
It'd be cool to see the rules adjusted and guys like Boban be able to get court time again. The three and D thing is getting a bit ridiculous. The game is suffering from a dearth of variety in play strategy.

Caltex2
08-23-2018, 01:36 PM
False. Lots of players still dunk and shoot lay-ups. Those are 2-point shots and NOT 3-point shots.

You don't have an ounce of sarcasm in your bones, do you?

Walter Donovan
08-23-2018, 05:52 PM
You don't have an ounce of sarcasm in your bones, do you?

Sarcasm with respect to what?

dbestpro
08-23-2018, 05:55 PM
I propose we get rid of the 2 point shot OP. You only score points if you shoot from beyond the 3-point line.

That's called H.O.R.S.E.

dbestpro
08-23-2018, 05:57 PM
i propose the 4 pt shot because thats whats exciting nowadays and halfcourt shots are 5 pts.

Why don't we limit the amount of 3s that can count per game. After making 10, then they all count as 2. Definitely would bring more strategy to the game.

Caltex2
08-25-2018, 11:05 AM
Why don't we limit the amount of 3s that can count per game. After making 10, then they all count as 2. Definitely would bring more strategy to the game.

But that would bring scoring down. Remember Jordan's last Finals series when both the Bulls and the Jazz struggle d to score 90 almost every game and the Jazz scored 54 in all of Game 3?

The NBA is not going back to that. Just move the line back.

AaronY
08-25-2018, 03:54 PM
https://beliotblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/ma5.jpg
Careful you dont cut yourself on that edge there bro

lefty
08-25-2018, 04:32 PM
But that would bring scoring down. Remember Jordan's last Finals series when both the Bulls and the Jazz struggle d to score 90 almost every game and the Jazz scored 54 in all of Game 3?

The NBA is not going back to that. Just move the line back.
The late 90s were hard to watch, I'll give you that.
Blame the NBA for that tbh

Still, fuck today's NBA

Stabula
08-25-2018, 04:34 PM
Careful you dont cut yourself on that edge there bro

Thanks for the concern bro that means a lot

KimmyGib
08-25-2018, 05:41 PM
Defenders are barely allowed to guard the 3-point shot. You can battle in the post, but if you so much as breathe on a 3-attempt, dude's getting 3 freethrows.

I find low scoring games more exciting, personally, where each basket is a really big deal.

lefty
08-25-2018, 06:03 PM
Defenders are barely allowed to guard the 3-point shot. You can battle in the post, but if you so much as breathe on a 3-attempt, dude's getting 3 freethrows.

I find low scoring games more exciting, personally, where each basket is a really big deal.

94 Finals were very intense tbh. Low scoring but good battles

Seventyniner
08-27-2018, 09:29 AM
Just have the 3-point line continue to the sideline instead of turning parallel. Eliminate the corner three and then 3 players can cover the entire 3-point line. Moving the line back 2 feet or so would complete the process.

Gino-Step
08-27-2018, 07:55 PM
This is a great 'compromise' that's an innovation in its own right. Kind of love it!