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Avante
08-21-2018, 04:53 PM
Yep, in big bold black letters is the history of the prison system here in America.

Robert Perkinson the author, the book was written in 2010.

There is a picture of a gang of black convicts digging a ditch on the cover, obviously an old picture. Bummer is the book didn't come with a CD about prisons, being a prisoner. Tons of songs out there about that experience.

I own what is considered the original "Black Betty", it was recorded in 1933 right there in Sugarland Prison. Ironhead Baker the lead singer with his fellow prisoners doing the background vocals. Amazing stuff.

Looking at the index for Angola Prison,(Louisiana) where Lead Belly and Robert Pete Williams were discovered I came across...

African Americans 2-4 6, 8, 9, 13, 20, 26, 45, 56, 121-122, 138-141, 149, 150-151, 161, 171-172, 177-180, 184-189, 205, 210-212, 232, 238, 240-241, 246-248, 256-257, 289-297, 303-305, 310, 312,313, 328, 334, 335, 338, 339, 363-366.

Hmmm?

We do see Alan and John Lomax mentioned, they are the ones who found Lead Belly. Who is mentioned numerous times.

I hate to move books up ahead of what I had planned but I can't wait to delve into this one, so an exception to my rule. As soon as I finish The Midnight Line the latest Jack Reacher novel.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4XFXJSQQOI

DJR210
08-21-2018, 05:14 PM
:wakeup

BD24
08-21-2018, 05:21 PM
:sleep

Avante
08-21-2018, 05:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ5XKUPZeRY



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpzWdY6prBA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xyp63MaSBs

Avante
08-21-2018, 06:04 PM
:sleep

A little bit about the book


In the prison business, all roads lead to Texas. A pioneer in criminal justice severity―from assembly-line executions to supermax isolation, from mandatory sentencing to prison privatization―Texas is the most locked-down state in the most incarcerated country in the world. Texas Tough, a sweeping history of American imprisonment from the days of slavery to the present, explains how a plantation-based penal system once dismissed as barbaric became a template for the nation.
Drawing on the individual stories as well as authoritative research, Texas Tough reveals the true origins of America's prison juggernaut and points toward a more just and humane future.

Avante
08-21-2018, 06:11 PM
I own a few CD's recorded right there in prison by the convicts, yep....interesting.

One of them the singer is singing all about going home, "I'm going home..I'm going home, I'm going home, I'm going home" after the song the guy recording him asks him..."so what were you thinking about there", he replies..."ah, well....going home".....hahaha!

Robert Pete Williams killed a man so he was sent to the infamous Angola Prison in Louisiana. This was recorded while he was there. He did get out and would sign a recording contract, he also played at blues festivals. He along with Texan Mance Lipscomb and Mississippi Fred McDowell were old enought to have recorded in the 30's but for some reason they didn't. They didn't show up until the late 50's/ early 60's.

This is famous in the blues world.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9uMbGjxqBI

benefactor
08-21-2018, 07:59 PM
The bitch of it is that it doesn't matter if Kori neuters him again. Registration is back open. He'll just reincarnate like he did after RaZon got pinked.

Avante
08-21-2018, 08:05 PM
The bitch of it is that it doesn't matter if Kori neuters him again. Registration is back open. He'll just reincarnate like he did after RaZon got pinked.

The real bitch of it is you.

Dude, what about this doesn't your dumb ass understand?


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Discuss anything that is on your mind. Let it all hang out :)

Wouldn't books and music be.....anything that is on your mind?

Dude, grow up, ok?

Why not complain about crap like this?

Which peed his pants? (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275133&goto=newpost)

Blake
08-21-2018, 08:18 PM
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Just as good as hefty

Avante
08-21-2018, 08:20 PM
Stick to the topic remember?

Avante
08-21-2018, 08:26 PM
Chapter 3...."Worse Than Slavery" and it's about 60 pages.

I do read two books at the same time sometimes, yep, that's what I'm going to do.

Blake
08-21-2018, 08:27 PM
Stick to the topic remember?

I did

Avante
08-21-2018, 08:33 PM
I did

Blake

This thread is about a book called TEXAS TOUGH which is about how the prison system started in this country. In the book there is mention of Lead Belly a legendary folk/blues singer who was discovered in Angola Prison....ok?

If you really thought it was about trash bags then I have to question a Texas Tech education.

You said this.

But stick to the topic, pussy. No more "me"

So stick to the topic. ok?

Blake
08-21-2018, 10:21 PM
I'm talking about Texas Tough trash bags. I'm not talking about you. Stop making this about me and stick to the topic of trash bags.

Now what's your opinion on Costco brand?

Avante
08-21-2018, 10:24 PM
I'm talking about Texas Tough trash bags. I'm not talking about you. Stop making this about me and stick to the topic of trash bags.

Now what's your opinion on Costco brand?

Ok, cool, just don't wimper around the next time you start a thread and I talk about blind blues singers...ok?

Do you know anything at all about the family behind TEXAS TOUGH trash bags? That was The Wahlberg family out of Shreveport Louisiana. The old man was a former piano player in New Orleans, played with Bunk Johnson. His wife was in charge of a whore house in Worthing Texas. So tell us how they got into the trash bag business.

Blake
08-21-2018, 10:31 PM
Ok, cool, just don't wimper around the next time you start a thread and I talk about blind blues singers...ok?

Screw you, I'm on topic.

Avante
08-21-2018, 10:33 PM
Screw you, I'm on topic.

Who started this thread me or you?

DJR210
08-21-2018, 11:55 PM
The bitch of it is that it doesn't matter if Kori neuters him again. Registration is back open. He'll just reincarnate like he did after RaZon got pinked.

Exactly. He'll come up with another faggoty superhero name like RaZon and be right back within days.

Avante
08-22-2018, 12:01 AM
Exactly. He'll come up with another faggoty superhero name like RaZon and be right back within days.

Dude, talking books and music is a no no, really?

But it's ok to go around accusing strangers of being some sick ass pedo like you do, right?

Trust me ya little shit ya try that anywhere else and you'd be banned.

Xevious
08-22-2018, 12:06 AM
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Just as good as hefty

:tu

Avante
08-22-2018, 12:08 AM
Next time Blake makes a thread we'll talk trash bags in depth, trust me.

Xevious
08-22-2018, 12:13 AM
Next time Blake makes a thread we'll talk trash bags in depth, trust me.

Why don't you create a duplicate thread about texas tough like you did Jack Reacher to let us know just how strongly you feel about the subject.

Avante
08-22-2018, 12:16 AM
Why don't you create a duplicate thread about texas tough like you did Jack Reacher to let us know just how strongly you feel about the subject.

Dude, look at the dates, ok? 2013 and 2018. How many posters do we have here now that weren't here in 2013? And there has been another Reacher movie since then.

Why don't you do something all your own, it appears ya just leech off everyone else.

Avante
08-22-2018, 12:22 AM
Are you kidding me? Who in the hell is going to post two threads about the exact same thing on the same day? Where is the common sense?

Xevious
08-22-2018, 12:25 AM
People use the search function all the time to continue old discussions that have already been started.

Avante
08-22-2018, 12:29 AM
People use the search function all the time to continue old discussions that have already been started.

The real question should be who brings up an old thread from 2013 when a new one is staring them in the face? That make any sense to you?

How about....ok man I get it now didn't notice the 2013, sorry.

DJR210
08-22-2018, 12:39 AM
Trust me ya little shit ya try that anywhere else and you'd be banned.

You should know you've been banned and neutered everywhere you've ever posted at :lol

DJR210
08-22-2018, 12:41 AM
The real question should be who brings up an old thread from 2013 when a new one is staring them in the face?

Uhhh.. the majority of the board. We have plenty of threads that are years old, you're too fucking stupid to realize we don't need 18k of the same blues topics :lol

Avante
08-22-2018, 12:48 AM
You should know you've been banned and neutered everywhere you've ever posted at :lol

Let's talk about that, tell me where do I post right now besides here, well? Yep, no clue. So why the lie? I post on about a dozen forums right now, in my history I've been banned from ...two. Pinked here. And in that history I've probably posted on 50 different forums with no troubles at all.

How long do you think you'd last anywhere else accusing posters of being some sick ass pedo when it's totally obvious that isn't true, well?

Dude, here I am just talking about a book and some music, this is a problem, why?

Avante
08-22-2018, 12:52 AM
Uhhh.. the majority of the board. We have plenty of threads that are years old, you're too fucking stupid to realize we don't need 18k of the same blues topics :lol

Dude, show me another thread here I made about prison blues, come on prove it. Yep, ya can't so why the lie?

And, start going back page after page and show me the last thread brought up from 2013. Yep, you won't do it because ya know you won't find one. So why the lie?

Avante
08-22-2018, 02:05 AM
Just browsing TEXAS TOUGH, page 49.


"TEXAS MUST BE A SLAVE COUNTRY"

Hmm?

The Gus Cannon Jug Stompers wrote and recorded this back around 1928ish. Nowhere in the song is Viola Lee mentioned.

We hear the classic lyrics....judge he pleaded, clerk wrote it down....for the first time in that orginal.

Great cover of a classic prison song.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osrb3SqpP90&list=RDOsrb3SqpP90

Avante
08-22-2018, 02:38 AM
Is it possible to share a book and some music here without....OH MY GOD A BO0K SOME VIDEOS WHAT AM I GOING TO DO...HELPPPPPPPPP~~~~~

I only post in threads that interest me, yep, works for me.

DJR210
08-22-2018, 03:14 AM
Let's talk about that, tell me where do I post right now besides here, well? Yep, no clue. So why the lie? I post on about a dozen forums right now, in my history I've been banned from ...two. Pinked here. And in that history I've probably posted on 50 different forums with no troubles at all.

How long do you think you'd last anywhere else accusing posters of being some sick ass pedo when it's totally obvious that isn't true, well?

Dude, here I am just talking about a book and some music, this is a problem, why?

I've seen the investigative work that's been posted in the NFL forums fool, you're not tricking me. I've seen several forums you post at exposed in that topic, and everyone of them you are being shit on

DJR210
08-22-2018, 03:18 AM
And, start going back page after page and show me the last thread brought up from 2013.

I'll do you one better, RaZon..

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175871&page=143&p=9516008#post9516008

2011

Blake
08-22-2018, 09:35 AM
Next time Blake makes a thread we'll talk trash bags in depth, trust me.

Lol thin skinned ol fart

Fabbs
08-22-2018, 09:39 AM
Texas sure was tough on Affluenza Teen and his Mommy.

Avante
08-22-2018, 07:06 PM
I've seen the investigative work that's been posted in the NFL forums fool, you're not tricking me. I've seen several forums you post at exposed in that topic, and everyone of them you are being shit on

Prove it.

Blake
08-22-2018, 07:07 PM
Prove it.

Stay on topic, pussy.

What's your trash bag of choice?

Avante
08-22-2018, 07:10 PM
Stay on topic, pussy.

What's your trash bag of choice?

The next time you start a thread we'll totally tear it all down in depth.

Blake, grow up son, ok?

Avante
08-22-2018, 07:13 PM
I'll do you one better, RaZon..

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175871&page=143&p=9516008#post9516008

2011

Dude, you have a real bad case of Avanteitist, get over it...ok?

Blake
08-22-2018, 08:46 PM
The next time you start a thread we'll totally tear it all down in depth.

Blake, grow up son, ok?

The thread is titled TEXAS TOUGH. I posted about TEXAS TOUGH.

Avante
08-22-2018, 08:57 PM
The thread is titled TEXAS TOUGH. I posted about TEXAS TOUGH.

Texas Tech education says it all.

Dude, you do stupid better than anyone here.

Avante
08-23-2018, 10:34 PM
How about this Texas musical mix?

Larry Davis who recorded the original Texas Flood
SRV doing Tin Pan Alley
Bessie Tucker
Lightnin' Hopkins doing my fav post war blues song..."Hello Central Please Give Me 209"
Frankie Lee Sims
Guy Clark
Texas Alexander
James McMurtry
Blind Lemon Jefferson
Willie Nelson
Hayes Caril
Ramblin' Thomas
Smokey Hogg
Waylon Jennings
The Black Ace
Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys
Blind Wilie Johnson
Ernest Tubb
Sippie Walace
Johnny Winter
Prince Albert Hunt
Hattie Hudson
Black Ivory King
Albert Collins
Townes Van Zandt
Janis Joplin
ZZ Top
Calvin Russell
Black Boy Shine
Delbert McClinton
Lyle Lovett
Chris Duarte


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdfJ7zmgtyA




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTG54f6MLto




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VUiNtZP6js

Avante
09-07-2018, 04:26 PM
Will be starting the book tonight. I rarely jump ahead of my reading plans, yep...an exception.

I own a lot of old blues recorded in prison, mostly Parchman Farm in Mississippi and Angola Prison in Louisiana. Some right there on the road and chain gang chants, it gets no more real than that.

So many songs about doing time, jails and prison, I need a good read about that experience.

Angola Bound.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klxDxqhBctI

The Neville Brothers a must listen.