Idlib, Syria. Next stage in war. Anothe Chemical Hoax imminent

[hater]

Syrian forces having freed the south of Syria from barbarians are now concentrating on the northern Idlib provine. A huge province taken over by militants since 2015.

Were in talks to peacefully negotiate terrorists out and free it but looks like talks have failed.

Terrorists including Al Nusra(Al Qaeda) have just said they will launch an offensive vs Syria. Forces

And today this:

https://twitter.com/conflicts/status/1032169165342298112?s=21

Writing is on the wall on what will happen next.

Another chemical weapon hoax that will bait US to once again get in

[hater]

https://twitter.com/hdner/status/1032243490304876544?s=21

[hater]

Famous words by Sun Tzu come to mind

“When your army has surrounded the enemy and is about to anihilate them, bomb them with chemical weapons so world powers much more powerful than you come in and destroy you”

[hater]

https://twitter.com/tim_hayward_/status/1032216214788091904?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/johnwight1/status/1032195067006603264?s=21

[koriwhat]

i say let them all gas each other and allow the ME to be the shit sandbox it is. fuck that whole region!

[hater]

i say let them all gas each other and allow the ME to be the shit sandbox it is. fuck that whole region!

But looks like we wont

We might actually protect the biggest Al Qaeda territory in history

https://twitter.com/brasco_aad/status/1032332057459011584?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/maytham956/status/1031110747672199168?s=21

This could possibly be the final battle in Syria folks

Assad vs AlQaeda

[hater]

EFH7X54e9IE

[Red Pill Regimen]

Not a story for those on a blue pill regimen, tbh.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/shehabifares/status/1032168710893694976?s=21

[hater]

Damn we were feeding them terrorists and had to stop cause we got caught

https://twitter.com/ea_worldview/status/1032966525064499201?s=21

[hater]

How is this gonna work?

https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/1032967151102173185?s=21

[hater]

Al Qaeda Air Force arrives

https://twitter.com/elintnews/status/1033239803943444481?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/freddie1999/status/1033326883897835521?s=21

[hater]

Even Israeli propaganda/intelligence agrees Idlib ismostly Al Qaeda:

It is not known if these vessels are carrying combat personnel or just equipment. However, DEBKAfile’s military sources conclude that the two large Russian landing craft consigned from the Black Sea to Syria are almost certainly carrying Russian marines or special forces for attacking rebel groups in Idlib from the sea or the coast.
This province, which is situated on Syria’s northern border with Turkey, is ruled by the Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham militia (ex-Al Qaeda offshoot Nusra Front) under the command of Abu Mohammad al-Julani. Its fighting strength numbers between 60,000 and 70,000. This militia is supported militarily and financially by Turkey which has ringed the bastion round with 13 military positions and compounds,.
Ankara has sent its top officials to Moscow to try and avert the combined Russian-Iranian-Syrian offensive to


https://www.debka.com/three-russian-warships-steaming-to-syria-for-idlib-operation-hizballah-opts-out/

[DMX7]

Famous words by Sun Tzu come to mind

“When your army has surrounded the enemy and is about to anihilate them, bomb them with chemical weapons so world powers much more powerful than you come in and destroy you”

Destroy you? He can do it precisely because he knows the consequences are almost non-existent. And because enough clowns will defend it as a hoax or unproven, as if the Syrians were gassing themsevles.

[hater]

Destroy you? He can do it precisely because he knows the consequences are almost non-existent. And because enough clowns will defend it as a hoax or unproven, as if the Syrians were gassing themsevles.

“Almost non-existent”

You almost convinced me. But getting the ire of the most powerfl army in the world and taking 100 tomahawks up your ass is far far far from non-existent consequences.

Plus this time US will make punishment harsher. They have to. No way they make the punishment same or lesser. They would look stupid.

So no matter how you look at it gassing anyone is a net negative thus only a moron or suicidal idiot would do this on the syrian side. And 8 years of war has proven Assad is neither. Syria has zero incentive to do this also because strategically gassing civilian neihhborhoods even infested by jihadis still does not help in any way to win the war.

On the other hand the incentive by Al Qaeda to stage a chemical hoax has a billion reason strategically. They would employ the best air force in the world to fight for them.

So in conclusion Assad gassing his peeps would be equivalent to an average joe walking into a bar and spilling his beer on top of the biggest strongest MMA fighter in there

[hater]

https://twitter.com/lummideastrss2/status/1034781726407573529?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/shagova_alena/status/1034781928359190528?s=21

[hater]

http://www.moonofalabama.org/images6/idlibmap20180815.jpg

“Idlib Province is the largest al-Qaeda safe haven since 9/11,” says Brett McGurk, the senior US envoy to the international coalition fighting Isis.

[hater]

Idleb is a cesspool in which various Jihadi factions continuously fight each other. At least 290 members and leaders of such groups have been assassinated during the last four months. Hundreds of locals who talked with the Syrian government to negotiate rehabilitation were arrested by HTS. The Syrian army and Russian military police opened corridors to allow civilians to flee the area.

The Inspector General of the U.S. aid agency shut down an aid program through which al-Qaeda in Idleb was fed:

US charity Catholic Relief Services wouldn’t directly confirm it was the NGO involved but left little doubt, saying it had “closed” its operations in northwest Syria following reports of aid diversion, and had dismissed staff as it works to “further enhance” anti-fraud measures. CRS has received $147 million from USAID for projects in Syria over the last three financial years, according to the USAID website.
USAID’s inspector general, reporting to Congress, first in March and with more details released in July, said that staff of an unnamed non-profit added “fighters” of armed group Hay’at Tahrir Al-Sham to lists of civilians eligible for food packages and then covered up the records. The US government regards HTS as a successor to the al-Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front.

First reports of this scheme through which the U.S. supplied al-Qaeda were already published in 2012. It was widely known that al-Qaeda systematically "taxed" up to 50% of all food and weapon supplies U.S. supported "moderate rebels" received.

[hater]

There is an obvious build up on all sides for a large battle over Idleb province. No plans on how the battle will proceed have been published. The number of forces assembled will make sure that it will be the biggest battle the war on Syria has seen so far. A first phase will likely avoid the city of Idleb itself. Jish al-Shigur in the north-west and the areas south and east of the M4 and M5 highway will be the primary targets. The battle will proceed from there. It is likely that the U.S., in one way or another, will try to hamper any Syrian army progress.

Six month from now, after the Idleb operation is over, the Syrian army is likely to move further north to retake the Syrian areas Turkey is currently holding and attempting to annex. After that the U.S. occupation force in north-east Syria will come into sight.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/08/syria-sitrep-the-build-up-for-the-idleb-campaign.html#more

[hater]

X00qU0co56o

Stupid to wait till end of september to start the campaing in Idlib tbqh

Chemical hoax could happen easily in the next 30 days

I dont buy it thta stuff will wait that long. Erdo, putin are going to Iran Sept 7

Stuff might hapoen right after that

[Fabbs]

Is shit about to get real?

[hater]

Is shit about to get real?

Lets ask UN envoy:

UN Syria envoy Staffan de Mistura said a potential "perfect storm" is looming over Syria's Idlib province, with possible military implications beyond the region.

Speaking to reporters in Geneva on Thursday, De Mistura offered to travel to Idlib to help ensure civilians can leave through a humanitarian corridor amid fears of an imminent government offensive to retake the last major region controlled by rebels.

"You can understand that when there is a perfect storm coming up in front of our eyes potentially, we need to address first things first," De Mistura said.

"I am once again prepared ... personally and physically, to get involved myself ... to ensure such a temporary corridor would be feasible and guaranteed for the people so that they can then return to their own places once this is over," he added.

The UN envoy said there were an estimated 10,000 al-Qaeda and al-Nusra fighters in Idlib, along with their families.

[hater]

Russia said on Wednesday that fighters there "must be liquidated" and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov described them as "a festering abscess".

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2018/08/de-mistura-potential-perfect-storm-looming-syria-idlib-180830114717200.html?__twitter_impression=true

[hater]

https://twitter.com/news4globe/status/1035151953901350912?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/inteltweet/status/1035021872046460928?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/thelemniscat/status/1035055412771520512?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/thelemniscat/status/1035058268324986881?s=21

[hater]

:lmao this stupid bitch cant keep her mouth ahut

Now she claims shes clairvoyant and knows Syria used the next chemical attack :lol

https://twitter.com/ronpaul/status/1037394872683114502?s=21

[ElNono]

the best people

[hater]

https://pics.onsizzle.com/angelo-ohngage-when-your-enemy-is-nearly-defeated-and-final-victory-32208089.png

[Winehole23]

well hater (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609), now that Russia has preempted the threat of US retaliation for a (fake?) chemical attack, what's your reassessment of the situation?

[hater]

well hater (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609), now that Russia has preempted the threat of US retaliation for a (fake?) chemical attack, what's your reassessment of the situation?

Both idiots are butting heads but still too chickenshit to really test the other (uncle sam and mr bear)

This weeknd Putin, Erdopig will go to Iran qnd probably make a decision.

Regardless I believe the headchoppers in Idlib have their days counted

[Winehole23]

their days are numbered, we say in English

[hater]

their days are numbered, we say in English

Same shit

[Winehole23]

same shit

[hater]

US senator ma noga richard black with da goods

https://twitter.com/alexgordon4me/status/1038195378347298817?s=21

[turkish spurs fan]

iran, russia and their puppet assad reggime are ready to massacre. we will see how turkey can resist to this bloody shit. the only country who thinks people's lives in syria.

[pgardn]

Hater still thinks there is a Syrian army with actual Syrians running the show.

Complete Dupe.
Assad has been granted permission to lead and he still Fs up.

Half of Syria is intermittently under Russian, Iran, Assad’s control.
Good luck with peace. Good luck with faking like you care about people’s lives.
There all kinds of groups acting against Assad because he murders anything.
Hater thinking Assad has no real Syrian opposition when he blatantly murders his own population to get at rebels.

[pgardn]

US senator ma noga richard black with da goods

https://twitter.com/alexgordon4me/status/1038195378347298817?s=21

Meet Richard Black working in his first public office with a Library:

Black first held elective office on the Loudoun County Library Board (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudoun_County_Public_Library), where in 1997 he authored a policy that blocked pornography on library computers.[5] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Black_(politician)#cite_note-5) To explain why the policy was necessary, he invited a reporter to film him watching rape pornography (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_pornography) on a library computer, to show how nearby library users could also see the pornography.[6] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Black_(politician)#cite_note-dick-6)Librarians only received one complaint about their computers being used to view pornography - when Black did so.[6] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Black_(politician)#cite_note-dick-6) The policy drew national attention and first amendment litigation struck down the policy, costing the Board $100,000.[7] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Black_(politician)#cite_note-7)[8] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Black_(politician)#cite_note-8)




You can’t make this shit up. What a great plan!
This guy is short bus material.

[Winehole23]

anonymous US sources whispering to the WSJ that Assad has already given the order:


Syrian President Bashar Assad has given approval for the use of chlorine gas in the country’s last remaining rebel holdout in Idlib province, U.S. officials told The Wall Street Journal on Sunday. (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-says-syria-plans-gas-attack-in-rebel-stronghold-1536535853)http://thehill.com/policy/defense/405856-syrias-assad-has-approved-use-of-chlorine-gas-in-idlib-report

[Winehole23]

Germany, Britain and France are allegedly in consultation to participate in joint strikes

[FrostKing]

Germany, Britain and France are allegedly in consultation to participate in joint strikes
Enjoy your migrants!

[hater]

anonymous US sources whispering to the WSJ that Assad has already given the order:

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/405856-syrias-assad-has-approved-use-of-chlorine-gas-in-idlib-report

Niga Assad probably re-read Sun Tzu over the weekend

https://pics.onsizzle.com/angelo-ohngage-when-your-enemy-is-nearly-defeated-and-final-victory-32208089.png

[hater]

https://twitter.com/dalatrm/status/1039090484222861312?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1039118800766029825?s=21

[hater]

No wonder they are melting down over “chemical attack” tbqh

https://twitter.com/charles_lister/status/1039173101655863296?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/antiwar1984/status/1039253463362887683?s=21

[Pavlov]

Rolos?

lol

[DMC]

Damn Hater, you're being right so often, so fast, you lose letters in words in your thread titles. It's amazing, but you called that too.

[in2deep]

I cant imagine Assad and Russia attacking now after all the serious threats by US. Seems like they are not playing around. Although if somehow Assad pulls this off it would mean complete victory.

theres much to gain but much to lose.

but if it means winning the war once and for all, Assad might just risk it. It would all depend in the assurances by Putin. It seems Turkey is reinforcing their borders but not their outposts in Syria as to mean they will not stand in the way

the Russian have said last week that for every one Syrian/Russia asset bomb by US, they will bomb a US one in Eastern Syria.

[in2deep]

And I just read Netherlands has stopped aiding Idlib rebels and White Helmets as they say its a lost cause

[pgardn]

Idlib innocents are dead meat since 60% is controlled by bad guys.
Syria/Russia/Iran make this easy with no care for collateral damage

[in2deep]

Idlib innocents are dead meat since 60% is controlled by bad guys.
Syria/Russia/Iran make this easy with no care for collateral damage

Agree

but we did the same or worse in Raqqa

war is horrible

[Winehole23]

Enjoy your migrants! Iraq, Iran, Jordan and Lebanon will take the brunt.

Turkey controls the spigot to Europe.

Perhaps a few hundred refugees will be allowed in the US. Between October of 2017 and April 12 of this year, only 44 Syrian war refugees have been allowed to enter the US.

The US led attack on Raqqa alone displaced 160,000 people.

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/04/12/602022877/the-u-s-has-welcomed-only-11-syrian-refugees-this-year.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/14/staggering-civilian-deaths-from-us-led-airstrikes-in-raqqa-says-un

[Winehole23]

Close
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmqTDr-WwAAIYPr.jpg:large

[Winehole23]

look who wrote an op-ed in the WSJ:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-world-must-stop-assad-1536614148

[pgardn]

Agree

but we did the same or worse in Raqqa

war is horrible

We also saved 20,000 Yazidis without any advantage militarily or National Security wise.

[pgardn]

look who wrote an op-ed in the WSJ:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-world-must-stop-assad-1536614148

This guy lands in the US, let’s his thugs beat up Turkish protesters on US soil... expects us to take him seriously.
Not to mention his thriving “democracy”

[in2deep]

We also saved 20,000 Yazidis without any advantage militarily or National Security wise.

At the expense of of thousands other civilians dead and an entire city leveled.

not to mention Mosul which was pretty much the same.

Both sides have been attrocious on Syrian/Iraqi civilian populations.

[hater]

I still dont believe white helmets/uk would start the false flag before the Idlib operation truly starts. But if they were I guess it makes sense they already have footage on hand

https://twitter.com/northonsixty1/status/1039485136734179328?s=21

[hater]

The adorable white helmets:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmzN9AcUwAE6-S6?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmzN9AYUwAAPiu1?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmzN9AXU0AAhu5s?format=jpg&name=900x900

[hater]

And I just read Netherlands has stopped aiding Idlib rebels and White Helmets as they say its a lost cause

Yes Dutch caught red handed aiding a terrorist group with 25 million euros. This was discovered through investigation of a case of the dutch gov vs a Dutch jihadist.

They immediately announced they are stopping aido to all rebel groups in Syria including white helmets

[hater]

https://twitter.com/tulsigabbard/status/1039636324322402304?s=21

[hater]

Tulsi!! Tulsi!!! Tulsi!!!!

Tulsi 2020

[Winehole23]

srsly?

if she does I bet you take the other side.

[hater]

srsly?

if she does I bet you take the other side.

Id take both tbqh :lol

[in2deep]

The operation was to commence right after summit in Iran. But Erdogan came in with a plan to keep Turkish troops in control of Idlib and did not want Syria. Forces involved. Obviously this was rejected and plans fell apart.

now Erdogan is flirting back with the US. This is why you dont hear any more peep out of the “missionary” who is prisioner in Turkey or more sanctions from US media.

turkey and US are back at the ngotiating table.

iran and syria were ready to start the attack but Russia had second thoughts.

Erdogan is quietly negotiating for Turkish annexation of Idlib. This is a classic stalemate

[turkish spurs fan]

BREAKING: #Russia (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Russia?src=hash), #Turkey (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Turkey?src=hash) agreed to establish demilitarized zone http://sptnkne.ws/j8qr (https://t.co/GXi8RUbfbG)

BREAKING: There will be no operation in #Idlib (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Idlib?src=hash) - Russian Defense Minister http://sptnkne.ws/j8qr (https://t.co/GXi8RUbfbG)


https://twitter.com/SputnikInt/status/1041729852267745281

LOL :smokin

[Winehole23]

sun comes up, hater is wrong again

[turkish spurs fan]

#Syria (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Syria) State News Agency: Missiles that targeted a facility in #Latakia (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Latakia) came from the sea.

[hater]

Missile drone attack from Israel most likely

They are pissed Erdopig and Putin sem to have reachd an agreement in Idlib.

Both turkish and russian forces will enforce a de militarized zone

[turkish spurs fan]

it is still unknown who targeted #Latakia (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Latakia)

[hater]

Most likely Israel as “attacks came from the sea”

The Putin-cErdopig deal is giving Erdopog consolidation powers in Northern Syria where he can reinforce his jihadis and they can anihilate the Kurds.

Putin gets his buffer zone where almost weekly drones attacks were coming from attacking Russia bases. Putin is playing the long game, giving cerdopig what he wants now but Putin will come back a knocking in a few months when Iran oil embargo kicks in and Turkey will defy the embargo souring US/Turkey relations even more. Thats when Putin will ask for the favor back from Pig

[hater]

The French now launching missiles.

Russian plane has been lost while Israeli conducted the strikes. 14 ppl on board. RIP tbqh

Is what happens when you have too many cooks in the kitchen

[hater]

Hopefully shit doesnt escalate tbqh

https://twitter.com/dannymakkisyria/status/1041834760329457670?s=21


Praying for those souls and for peace :tu

[turkish spurs fan]

russian planes :)

[turkish spurs fan]

"the US military believes that Syrian anti-aircraft artillery accidentally shot down a Russian maritime patrol aircraft Monday while the Syrian regime was attempting to shoot down a barrage of Israeli missiles targeting locations in Latakia, a US official tells CNN"

[pgardn]

Hopefully shit doesnt escalate tbqh

https://twitter.com/dannymakkisyria/status/1041834760329457670?s=21


Praying for those souls and for peace :tu

Bullshit Putin wacko

[hater]

LOL US spinning that Syrian anti aircraft shot down the russian plane. That has very remote chance of being true as Syrian weapons are russian ls and friendly fire scenario on a russian spy plane is almost impossible as they ID targets.

But I guess everything is possible, but more likely it was the french missile or the Israelis

[turkish spurs fan]

hater had better take a break

[hater]

hater had better take a break

Sup ma niga? Hows your daily ration of turkish bread going? Filling?

[spurraider21]

Hopefully shit doesnt escalate tbqh
god knows we cant afford WW XVII

[hater]

:lmao cnn :lol

What a godawful “news” network

https://twitter.com/crumfordsphungo/status/1041846190378299392?s=21

[hater]

Looking more likely it was Israel

Russia S400 attemoted to retaliate by shooting down an F16

https://twitter.com/alsuraenglish/status/1041846738028384256?s=21

[turkish spurs fan]

Sup ma niga? Hows your daily ration of turkish bread going? Filling?

give us cheaper gas bro.

[hater]

give us cheaper gas bro.

We accept gold at the pump tbqh

[turkish spurs fan]

LOL Russia accepted their air defenses shot down the russian plane.

[DMC]

3rd world problems tbh

[hater]

“The Israeli pilots used the Russian plane as cover and set it up to be targeted by the Syrian air defense forces. As a consequence, the Il-20, which has radar cross-section much larger than the F-16, was shot down by an S-200 system missile,” the statement said.


I guess its smart of Israelis to use Russian planes as cover


:lmao these Russian scrubs are starting to look like cucks

Letting Israel have their way with Syria is primetime cuck

Like letting a jew savagge your wife. Embarrasing :lmao

They better close the airspace to Israel now or be forever called a cuck

[hater]

:lmao Putin just said it was a tragic circumstance :lmao

What a fucking cuck

Lavrov should take him to a room and bitchslap him

[hater]

Its official Cuckin is Bibis bitch :lol

“Netanyahu stressed the importance of continuing coordination in the security area between Israel and Russia, which prevented many losses on the both sides over the past three years,” the press service said on Tuesday, after Putin and the Israeli PM spoke by telephone.

Bibi has both Dump and Cuckin as puppets. Damn. Most powerful Israeli PM of all times :wow GOAT

[hater]

Cuckin getting roasted online even by Russia. Bots :lmao

https://twitter.com/russiainsider/status/1042055162418741248?s=21

[hater]

Cuckin getting roasted online even by Russia. Bots :lmao

https://twitter.com/russiainsider/status/1042055162418741248?s=21

:lmao the comments section is gold :lol. What an epic meltdown of Cuckin fanboys

[in2deep]

I heard Israel destroyed some Iranian s300 equipment in this attack. Not sure if true.

So ot looks like Trump is Putins puppet and Putin is Bibis puppet.


israel will rule the world

[in2deep]

Russian MOD still talking about Israeli responsibility here. Putin has already moved on

what a clusterfuck

[hater]

Israel already rules the world. They control US elections, own europe and have Cuckin in thir pocket.

Ww3 is over before it started. Israel won

they just made the Russians look like cuck amateurs. This is not an average plane they obliterated, it is one of their prides a plane with the most advanced radar and EW technology. With 15 of probably the most important EW engineers in mother Russia. And they were used by Israeli army like a used condom and disposed. It will be near impossible to replace tbqh

its a huge embarrasment. I dont think Russia and Cuckin will recover from this. Especially since Cuckin is a slave to Bibi and Russian Zionist oligarchs.

They probably have pee tapes on Cuckin just like Trump :lol

game over

time to visit the Promised Land and try to become a Jew

Thats pretty much any os us can aspire to now :lmao

[hater]

:lmao Russian nigas going HAM on Cuckin on the interwebs

“The dwarf in the Kremlin” :lmao

[hater]

Cuckin trying to save face?

The Russian Defense Ministry suddenly announced Thursday morning, Sept. 20, the closure of the eastern Mediterranean to air traffic and shipping – from the Syrian and Lebanese coasts to Cyprus -due to a snap “military exercise.”
DEBKAfile: By this device, Russia has shut down Israel’s capacity to strike targets in Syria from the sea or from Lebanon. Air raids henceforth can only be launched directly from Israel or through Jordanian air space. Israel’s missile ships are also prevented from reaching waters off the Syrian coast.

This is also Irans chance to ship anything they want to Syria as no way Israel dares to attack anytime soon. Ship baby ship!

[hater]

Shoigu only Russian wit a backbone tbqh

https://twitter.com/avischarf/status/1044197110382563329?s=21

[hater]

DEBKAfile’s military experts point out that this the first time a major world power has declared electronic war against any country. After rejecting Israel’s version of the Ilyushin crash with 15 Russian servicemen aboard as untruthful, Moscow has thrown down the electronic gauntlet before the IDF and pitched the dispute onto a much higher elevation. This challenge confronts Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Gady Eisenkot with three tough options:

1.They could have sought a way out of this high-stakes showdown with Moscow up until Monday. But now, it is too late. Shoigu slammed the door shut on a quiet exit. However, Israel is even more unable to give up on its air offensive against Iranian and its proxies’ presence in Syria, despite the escalated risk of a clash with the Russians, because it would constitute a humiliating comedown against Iran and Hizballah. However, in future, the IDF may be more cautious and select its targets with greater circumspection.

2. They could meet Moscow’s challenge for an electronic duel. In previous encounters, Israel came of best. In 1982, the Israeli Air Force destroyed a Russian air defense network installed by Russia in the Lebanese Beqaa Valley; and more recently, in 2007, Israeli planes, before destroying the Iranian-North Korean plutonium reactor in Deir Ez-Zour, activated its “Suter” system to “blind” the Syrian/Russian radar protecting the site.

Russian electronic warfare specialists have since sought answers for Israel’s jamming measures, but have found it difficult to catch up with is constant advances. However, this time may be different. DEBKAfile reports that the latest Russian challenge may stretch Israel’s Air Force and Navies beyond their capacity. While successful in coping with electronic antagonists over small targets in the past, they now see the Russian Defense Minister painting a large arena of many hundreds of kilometers covering Syria and the eastern Mediterranean for the new challenge. Israel lacks operational experience on this scale of electronic warfare.

3. The IDF is much less worried about the impending delivery of S-300 missiles systems to Bashar Assad’s army. For years, the IAF has been practicing combat against these batteries. But for taking on massive Russian jamming across the eastern Mediterranean, Israel may have to turn to the United States for assistance. This request may be raised when Netanyahu meets President Donald Trump on Wednesday Sept. 26, on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York.

[in2deep]

Dont think the s300 will make much of a difference in terms of limiting Israeli strikes

more importantly Russia has basically taken over Lebanese airspace. Israel will not be able to freely fly over Lebanon anymore. Thats their punishment

Additionally this is a warning from Russia, they already greenlit s300 to Syria and they can easily and quickly do it to Iran if necessary.

in a matter of a few months the following countries will have Russian made air defenses:
-china s400
- india s400
- turkey s400
- saudi s400
- iraq s400
- syria s300

in process:
- egypt s300
- qatar s400
- iran s300

thats quite amazing

tAlk about changing the landscape. These russian systems are best bang for the buck defense systems out there and are basically a no brainer for any country that can afford it.

[hater]

Russian cucks trying to save face

BEIRUT, LEBANON (7:00 P.M.) – The Russian military has established a no-fly zone over the Latakia province of western Syria, Russian Senator and former Air Force commander Viktor Bondarev stated on Monday.

“The establishment of a no-fly zone over the Russian military base in Latakia will prevent a repeat of the IL-20 aircraft tragedy,” Bondarev told the Russian Federation’s Council this evening.

“After creating a no-fly zone in Latakia, it is necessary to announce that any unauthorized objects in the sky over Hmeimim Airport will definitely be eliminated,” he added.

Talking some hard shit now. Well see. Israel might just give them a second black eye to match the other one

[hater]

From Debkafile (Israeli intelligence/propaganda)

Neither Israel nor the US intervened when Iran broke new strategic ground on Monday, Oct. 1 by sending a squadron of 11 stealth UAVs to attack ISIS in E. Syria. DEBKAfile: The attack drones were greater cause for concern than the six surface missiles the Revolutionary Guards launched from their base in Kermanshah in western Iran. Like the missiles, the assault drones cut through Iraqi air space to their targets in Syria, without asking Baghdad for permission; but, unlike the missiles, they also returned to home base by the same route unhindered. Not a single Israeli or American aircraft took to the air stop them.
Therefore, not only is Iran continuing to establish a military presence in Syria in defiance of Israel’s vow to pre-empt their effort – even in Iraq, its Revolutionary Guards have taken a step further and activated a stealth air force from their home base across two frontiers.

[hater]

Very high tech attack by Iran tbqh

Stealth drones flew into Iraq basically undetected. Pinpointed coordinates using true sight. And fed them to their missiles waiting back home. Then went home on their merry way and watched the firworks

:wow

[Winehole23]

Iran had a strong regional enemy until we deposed Saddam. It would be a cruel joke to say Iraq is better off now.

Also, by invading Iraq, we strengthened Iran vis a vis Iraq and the whole neighborhood.

[hater]

:lmao this old piece of walrus fuckface still at it :lol

https://twitter.com/cbsnews/status/1047536354362572800?s=21

[hater]

WWhen Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said on Oct. 2 that the “unified” S-300 air defense systems in Syria will be installed in Syria by Oct. 20, he really meant its integration in the Russian homeland system. This element of his report to President Vladimir Putin is the key to the real import of Moscow’s response to the downing of its Il-20 spy plane on Sept. 17, for which Shoigu blamed Israel. DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources report that Putin seized on the disaster to establish in Syria an advanced air defense weapons system linked not only to the Russian Khmeimim Air Base in Latakia, but integrated in Russia’s own C3 command, control and communications system against nuclear attack.
This move is a strategic game-changer for American and Israeli operations in Syria. They are no longer taxed with staying clear of Russian and Syrian missile batteries in Damascus, but are facing their first direct contest with the air defense system which defends Russian cities. Shoigu seemed to offer details on the S-300s delivered to Syria. He mentioned 49 units of “radars, basic target acquisition systems, command posts and four launchers.” But he carefully omitted to reveal how the Syrian and Russian air defense networks were to be linked to the command and control center in Russia and exactly how they would function together. A critical question remains open: Is the Syrian S-300 system fully integrated in the Russian homeland C-3 or only partially?
The C-3 is pretty much an unknown quantity for Western intelligence since Russian military engineers have been working tirelessly on upgrades for some months. Israel military officers have wisely stopped boasting that their air force can easily handle the S-300s, having realized that the version of this anti-air system tested in Israeli war games in Greece and other places is more or less obsolete. It has been has been replaced by a far more sophisticated S-300 which is the version shipped to Syria in the last two weeks.
Moscow has therefore substantially raised the stakes of the military contest between Russia and the United States in Syria to a much higher level. Putin has chosen this arena to directly test Russia’s air defense capabilities against the US Air Force’s F-22 stealth plane and Israel’s US-made F-35 “Adir” super plane, to find out which comes out best.

[pgardn]

Hater’s Hero

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-45586903