Manu Ginobili Appreciation Thread

[Holden_Caulfield]

manu is my 2nd favorite player. dude made the spurs exciting.

[DrSteffo]

Thank you Manu.

[BillMc]

Manu sacrificed a lot. Only 2 All Star appearances. Play-wise, I consider him a top 3 SG all time. The stats really hurt his case though.

Dude sacrificed a testicle and a straight nose for the team too. Major props.

[BillMc]

So, if Manu makes HOF on the first ballot, who else is he likely to in with? Who else retired this year? Can't think of anyone major immediately.

[DAF86]

Huh? He would have been in the all-star game if he was voted in.

If the all-star voting would have remained fans voting only, he would have got in.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

With Timmy you knew the knee was gone and so it was easier to accept him retiring I think. Manu could still play this year and play well I think...but him walking away on his own terms though is pretty cool for Manu. He had some really good moments last year and carried the Spurs in many games, especially down the stretch.

I'm really bummed I didn't get to see him play one last time, but really grateful for all the memories. :tu

[BatManu20]

So, if Manu makes HOF on the first ballot, who else is he likely to in with? Who else retired this year? Can't think of anyone major immediately.

D-Wade for sure if he decides to hang em up. Chauncey Billups has a chance too.

[TimmyBuckets]

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/8/28/17790934/translation-manu-ginobilis-farewell-letter-to-fans

Translation of Manu's column in La Nacion.

I sit here writing with mixed feelings, just like I said on the tweet announcing my retirement. I’m very excited about the decision I made and for what’s coming, but also uncertain of how I’ll adjust to a day to day life that doesn’t include thinking about the next game. I’ve been playing my whole adult life, since I was 18 and left for La Rioja up to a couple of months. It’s going to be strange, no doubt, but I believe I’m well prepared and I’m certain I’m surrounded by the best possible people to face it.

Besides, I can’t claim this was a rushed or unexpected decision. I’m 41 years old. I really squeezed all the juice out of this whole basketball thing, right? There’s also the fact that last season was, in my mind, the last one at all times. I never made that known because it made no sense to limit my options. I wanted to leave the door open, in case I changed my mind and felt the physical and mental strength needed to face an NBA season.

When the season ended, I let a couple of months go by to see how I felt, like I usually do. In a meeting before I went to Canada on vacation, I told Pop that I thought I was more likely out than in, but we would stay in touch and talk when I got back. During our holiday, Many and I talked about the very real possibility that this was actually it, but we never dared confirm it or really believe it fully. I wanted to have the chance to return to San Antonio and see if something would awake in me, calling me back to the court. The opposite happened. I got back and started lifting weights and taking shots, watching the young guys bust their backs trying to get in shape for preseason while I was still feeling pain from two hits I suffered last season. I slowly started to convince myself of making this decision.

I had to wait a few days until Pop returned from Europe, because I wanted him to be the first one to know and the first one I talked to about it. On August 27 it was time to make my decision public. You can’t imagine how stressed I was in front of that screen before hitting “send.” I don’t really know why, since I was convinced it was the right decision for me. It was crazy. I’m certain and happy with the step I took.

It’s hard to explain what I felt. Right after, I experienced great relief and I thought I was going to be able to disconnect, but the messages kept pouring in and I couldn’t help but read them. Some made me emotional. I really should say made us emotional, because Many, my wife, is going through this with me. She’s also retiring. We’ve shared 21 of these 23 years I played. She suffered through every competition, celebrating, crying, yelling, from up close and far away. She even put up with me leaving for two months in the offseason to go play with the national team, instead of going on family vacations. She took care of the house through it all, of our kids, of making sure they didn’t wake me up early before an important game. She was the one who supported me in losses and celebrated with me in victory. Anyway, the list of what she means to me could go on for a few more pages.

I’m probably not the only one who feels this way about retirement. It must happen in every job. It’s just that, in basketball, achieving the sense of family we had in San Antonio is unusual. To play with some of the same teammates for 16 years, for the same coach, and to see the same faces year after year generates a strong sense of belonging. I don’t want to start naming people, because I’m sure I’d be unfair with some. But just like I said in my tweet, I’m immensely grateful to everyone.

I did made it clear to Pop that this is not a “bye, I’m out” situation. My kids already started school and while I’m in the city, I’m going to be close to the team and the franchise. I might not be able to help by drawing a charge or getting a steal or whatever, but I’ll try to pitch in wherever I can. I have a deep affection for my teammates, the staff and everyone around the team and I want them to do as well as possible. If I can help from the outside, I’ll be glad to do so.

I can say that I did everything I wanted to do in basketball. I played until I wanted, until I was 41, while others have to retire before their time because they get hurt or for other reasons. I have nothing I wished I could have done but didn’t. I even actually indulged in playing these past three years like you would with friends, without feeling the pressure of being solely responsible for how things went, feeling like I had already done all I could to lead us to success. I played because I liked to play, and because of the respect and affection I had for the place in which I was.

I thanked everyone the way I could on my tweet, because there’s a lot of people with whom I shared time on this road. One of the things I’m the happiest about looking back is that I never had a fight with the teammates I played with, all 274 of them, or with the coaches. I didn’t have many, but with the nine coaches I had I got along great, feeling mutual respect and appreciation. And then there’s also the vast amount of people who work in the shadows, busting their backs so that we can be in playing shape. They might not be in the spotlight or have their names in the media, but they are crucial for the success of an organization.

I also have to mention that I became the player that I was only after going to Europe. Beyond just the success I had in Bologna and the growing up I did in Reggio Calabria, everything I learned there helped me later compete at the highest level in the NBA.

Everything about my career was special. It’s not common to be on a team for such a long time and it’s certainly not common to have processes in which a handful of players spend 20 years together, like it happened with the Spurs (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/san-antonio-spurs) and the Golden Generation. I was fortunate enough to be a part of two groups who had incredible relevance in the sport, and on both occasions it was with a group of people of unmatched quality. As a professional, to have experienced that is astounding.

I have to thank the San Antonio fans, who embraced me since day one. My Latino origin and the fact I spoke Spanish surely helped build a bond with them. We had a unique connection for 16 years, with unconditional love and support. As for my Argentine fans, I have no words. What we lived, for example, in Mar Del Plata and Rio de Janeiro is hard to forget. I can’t really described what I experienced with the national team in a couple of sentences. I can say I was profoundly touch by the love I was showered with in Rio, on my last game. Beyond that, seeing a stream of Argentinians past through San Antonio to watch me play over the past few years was just amazing. I know the sacrifices they had to make to come and that moved me.

Well, it’s now time for me to start spending more time with my wife and kids; to enjoy quality time in Argentina with friends and family; to eat my old man’s polenta and barbecue with friends; to spend the second half of my life without so many responsibilities and take care of my body, since it’s the only one I have. I will, ultimately, enjoy this free time I have, since it’s what everyone is after and it’s available to me, at 41. Thank you all for supporting me through this long journey.

[dg7md]

Thank you Manu, always my favorite Spur. I will miss his style of play that won us games but also costed us (see: 2006 vs. Mavs), but he was the heart and soul of the team for the longest time. It is impressive he made it as long as he did.

I am ready for us to move into the next generation, though, but I will not forget his contributions.

[BillMc]

D-Wade for sure if he decides to hang em up. Chauncey Billups has a chance too.

I didn't know D-wade was seriously considering retiring. If true that'd be a good classmate.

[BatManu20]

Since the Basketball HOF changed the waiting period for eligibility from 4 years to 3 years a few months ago, Manu will now be eligible for the 2021 Class.

[Monostradamus]

Thanks for the memories, Manu!

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2422/2757/320/Dirk%26Manu.jpg

[DAF86]

Anyone has ESPN insider access?

http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/19496268/is-manu-ginobili-nba-career-hall-fame-worthy-san-antonio-spurs

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DloKwrZUUAACgPQ.jpg

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/8/28/17790934/translation-manu-ginobilis-farewell-letter-to-fans

Translation of Manu's column in La Nacion.

I sit here writing with mixed feelings, just like I said on the tweet announcing my retirement. I’m very excited about the decision I made and for what’s coming, but also uncertain of how I’ll adjust to a day to day life that doesn’t include thinking about the next game. I’ve been playing my whole adult life, since I was 18 and left for La Rioja up to a couple of months. It’s going to be strange, no doubt, but I believe I’m well prepared and I’m certain I’m surrounded by the best possible people to face it.

Besides, I can’t claim this was a rushed or unexpected decision. I’m 41 years old. I really squeezed all the juice out of this whole basketball thing, right? There’s also the fact that last season was, in my mind, the last one at all times. I never made that known because it made no sense to limit my options. I wanted to leave the door open, in case I changed my mind and felt the physical and mental strength needed to face an NBA season.

When the season ended, I let a couple of months go by to see how I felt, like I usually do. In a meeting before I went to Canada on vacation, I told Pop that I thought I was more likely out than in, but we would stay in touch and talk when I got back. During our holiday, Many and I talked about the very real possibility that this was actually it, but we never dared confirm it or really believe it fully. I wanted to have the chance to return to San Antonio and see if something would awake in me, calling me back to the court. The opposite happened. I got back and started lifting weights and taking shots, watching the young guys bust their backs trying to get in shape for preseason while I was still feeling pain from two hits I suffered last season. I slowly started to convince myself of making this decision.

I had to wait a few days until Pop returned from Europe, because I wanted him to be the first one to know and the first one I talked to about it. On August 27 it was time to make my decision public. You can’t imagine how stressed I was in front of that screen before hitting “send.” I don’t really know why, since I was convinced it was the right decision for me. It was crazy. I’m certain and happy with the step I took.

It’s hard to explain what I felt. Right after, I experienced great relief and I thought I was going to be able to disconnect, but the messages kept pouring in and I couldn’t help but read them. Some made me emotional. I really should say made us emotional, because Many, my wife, is going through this with me. She’s also retiring. We’ve shared 21 of these 23 years I played. She suffered through every competition, celebrating, crying, yelling, from up close and far away. She even put up with me leaving for two months in the offseason to go play with the national team, instead of going on family vacations. She took care of the house through it all, of our kids, of making sure they didn’t wake me up early before an important game. She was the one who supported me in losses and celebrated with me in victory. Anyway, the list of what she means to me could go on for a few more pages.

I’m probably not the only one who feels this way about retirement. It must happen in every job. It’s just that, in basketball, achieving the sense of family we had in San Antonio is unusual. To play with some of the same teammates for 16 years, for the same coach, and to see the same faces year after year generates a strong sense of belonging. I don’t want to start naming people, because I’m sure I’d be unfair with some. But just like I said in my tweet, I’m immensely grateful to everyone.

I did made it clear to Pop that this is not a “bye, I’m out” situation. My kids already started school and while I’m in the city, I’m going to be close to the team and the franchise. I might not be able to help by drawing a charge or getting a steal or whatever, but I’ll try to pitch in wherever I can. I have a deep affection for my teammates, the staff and everyone around the team and I want them to do as well as possible. If I can help from the outside, I’ll be glad to do so.

I can say that I did everything I wanted to do in basketball. I played until I wanted, until I was 41, while others have to retire before their time because they get hurt or for other reasons. I have nothing I wished I could have done but didn’t. I even actually indulged in playing these past three years like you would with friends, without feeling the pressure of being solely responsible for how things went, feeling like I had already done all I could to lead us to success. I played because I liked to play, and because of the respect and affection I had for the place in which I was.

I thanked everyone the way I could on my tweet, because there’s a lot of people with whom I shared time on this road. One of the things I’m the happiest about looking back is that I never had a fight with the teammates I played with, all 274 of them, or with the coaches. I didn’t have many, but with the nine coaches I had I got along great, feeling mutual respect and appreciation. And then there’s also the vast amount of people who work in the shadows, busting their backs so that we can be in playing shape. They might not be in the spotlight or have their names in the media, but they are crucial for the success of an organization.

I also have to mention that I became the player that I was only after going to Europe. Beyond just the success I had in Bologna and the growing up I did in Reggio Calabria, everything I learned there helped me later compete at the highest level in the NBA.

Everything about my career was special. It’s not common to be on a team for such a long time and it’s certainly not common to have processes in which a handful of players spend 20 years together, like it happened with the Spurs (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/san-antonio-spurs) and the Golden Generation. I was fortunate enough to be a part of two groups who had incredible relevance in the sport, and on both occasions it was with a group of people of unmatched quality. As a professional, to have experienced that is astounding.

I have to thank the San Antonio fans, who embraced me since day one. My Latino origin and the fact I spoke Spanish surely helped build a bond with them. We had a unique connection for 16 years, with unconditional love and support. As for my Argentine fans, I have no words. What we lived, for example, in Mar Del Plata and Rio de Janeiro is hard to forget. I can’t really described what I experienced with the national team in a couple of sentences. I can say I was profoundly touch by the love I was showered with in Rio, on my last game. Beyond that, seeing a stream of Argentinians past through San Antonio to watch me play over the past few years was just amazing. I know the sacrifices they had to make to come and that moved me.

Well, it’s now time for me to start spending more time with my wife and kids; to enjoy quality time in Argentina with friends and family; to eat my old man’s polenta and barbecue with friends; to spend the second half of my life without so many responsibilities and take care of my body, since it’s the only one I have. I will, ultimately, enjoy this free time I have, since it’s what everyone is after and it’s available to me, at 41. Thank you all for supporting me through this long journey.

It's not bad but it could have been more heartfelt. Bummer he only said thank you once and he didn't even use all caps.

[SuperCam]

when will pat riley put up his jersey in the rafters for the ring he gave them in '13 and probably '06?

[Brazil]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DloKwrZUUAACgPQ.jpg

tough times for pop tbh...

[SpursDynasty85]

BUT even using .3 is a compliment if you gonna Be real and honest. Manu did everything right. A contest without fouling, a heavily contested shot is very low %. And furthermore Fisher has to break his form and follow through on the release... Fisher was a clutch player but that shot was luck. Good luck Lakers, bad luck Spurs... Manu defended that play as best as anyone could...
Great photograph if I were still coaching I would use that Pic to demonstrate a perfect close/contest.

Not in the NBA. Best closeout are the ones that have the highest reach which usually means your closing out with one hand. Manu took the safe route. Just like parker on Ray Allen. You close out on clutch shooters by changing the arc of their shot not crowding them.

[DMC]

Will kawhi say anything about manu?

"He was good... what? I said he was good"

[TimmyBuckets]

Not in the NBA. Best closeout are the ones that have the highest reach which usually means your closing out with one hand. Manu took the safe route. Just like parker on Ray Allen. You close out on clutch shooters by changing the arc of their shot not crowding them.

Doesn't matter, they started the clock late. BS shot.

[DMC]

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/8/28/17790934/translation-manu-ginobilis-farewell-letter-to-fans

Translation of Manu's column in La Nacion.

I sit here writing with mixed feelings, just like I said on the tweet announcing my retirement. I’m very excited about the decision I made and for what’s coming, but also uncertain of how I’ll adjust to a day to day life that doesn’t include thinking about the next game. I’ve been playing my whole adult life, since I was 18 and left for La Rioja up to a couple of months. It’s going to be strange, no doubt, but I believe I’m well prepared and I’m certain I’m surrounded by the best possible people to face it.

Besides, I can’t claim this was a rushed or unexpected decision. I’m 41 years old. I really squeezed all the juice out of this whole basketball thing, right? There’s also the fact that last season was, in my mind, the last one at all times. I never made that known because it made no sense to limit my options. I wanted to leave the door open, in case I changed my mind and felt the physical and mental strength needed to face an NBA season.

When the season ended, I let a couple of months go by to see how I felt, like I usually do. In a meeting before I went to Canada on vacation, I told Pop that I thought I was more likely out than in, but we would stay in touch and talk when I got back. During our holiday, Many and I talked about the very real possibility that this was actually it, but we never dared confirm it or really believe it fully. I wanted to have the chance to return to San Antonio and see if something would awake in me, calling me back to the court. The opposite happened. I got back and started lifting weights and taking shots, watching the young guys bust their backs trying to get in shape for preseason while I was still feeling pain from two hits I suffered last season. I slowly started to convince myself of making this decision.

I had to wait a few days until Pop returned from Europe, because I wanted him to be the first one to know and the first one I talked to about it. On August 27 it was time to make my decision public. You can’t imagine how stressed I was in front of that screen before hitting “send.” I don’t really know why, since I was convinced it was the right decision for me. It was crazy. I’m certain and happy with the step I took.

It’s hard to explain what I felt. Right after, I experienced great relief and I thought I was going to be able to disconnect, but the messages kept pouring in and I couldn’t help but read them. Some made me emotional. I really should say made us emotional, because Many, my wife, is going through this with me. She’s also retiring. We’ve shared 21 of these 23 years I played. She suffered through every competition, celebrating, crying, yelling, from up close and far away. She even put up with me leaving for two months in the offseason to go play with the national team, instead of going on family vacations. She took care of the house through it all, of our kids, of making sure they didn’t wake me up early before an important game. She was the one who supported me in losses and celebrated with me in victory. Anyway, the list of what she means to me could go on for a few more pages.

I’m probably not the only one who feels this way about retirement. It must happen in every job. It’s just that, in basketball, achieving the sense of family we had in San Antonio is unusual. To play with some of the same teammates for 16 years, for the same coach, and to see the same faces year after year generates a strong sense of belonging. I don’t want to start naming people, because I’m sure I’d be unfair with some. But just like I said in my tweet, I’m immensely grateful to everyone.

I did made it clear to Pop that this is not a “bye, I’m out” situation. My kids already started school and while I’m in the city, I’m going to be close to the team and the franchise. I might not be able to help by drawing a charge or getting a steal or whatever, but I’ll try to pitch in wherever I can. I have a deep affection for my teammates, the staff and everyone around the team and I want them to do as well as possible. If I can help from the outside, I’ll be glad to do so.

I can say that I did everything I wanted to do in basketball. I played until I wanted, until I was 41, while others have to retire before their time because they get hurt or for other reasons. I have nothing I wished I could have done but didn’t. I even actually indulged in playing these past three years like you would with friends, without feeling the pressure of being solely responsible for how things went, feeling like I had already done all I could to lead us to success. I played because I liked to play, and because of the respect and affection I had for the place in which I was.

I thanked everyone the way I could on my tweet, because there’s a lot of people with whom I shared time on this road. One of the things I’m the happiest about looking back is that I never had a fight with the teammates I played with, all 274 of them, or with the coaches. I didn’t have many, but with the nine coaches I had I got along great, feeling mutual respect and appreciation. And then there’s also the vast amount of people who work in the shadows, busting their backs so that we can be in playing shape. They might not be in the spotlight or have their names in the media, but they are crucial for the success of an organization.

I also have to mention that I became the player that I was only after going to Europe. Beyond just the success I had in Bologna and the growing up I did in Reggio Calabria, everything I learned there helped me later compete at the highest level in the NBA.

Everything about my career was special. It’s not common to be on a team for such a long time and it’s certainly not common to have processes in which a handful of players spend 20 years together, like it happened with the Spurs (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/san-antonio-spurs) and the Golden Generation. I was fortunate enough to be a part of two groups who had incredible relevance in the sport, and on both occasions it was with a group of people of unmatched quality. As a professional, to have experienced that is astounding.

I have to thank the San Antonio fans, who embraced me since day one. My Latino origin and the fact I spoke Spanish surely helped build a bond with them. We had a unique connection for 16 years, with unconditional love and support. As for my Argentine fans, I have no words. What we lived, for example, in Mar Del Plata and Rio de Janeiro is hard to forget. I can’t really described what I experienced with the national team in a couple of sentences. I can say I was profoundly touch by the love I was showered with in Rio, on my last game. Beyond that, seeing a stream of Argentinians past through San Antonio to watch me play over the past few years was just amazing. I know the sacrifices they had to make to come and that moved me.

Well, it’s now time for me to start spending more time with my wife and kids; to enjoy quality time in Argentina with friends and family; to eat my old man’s polenta and barbecue with friends; to spend the second half of my life without so many responsibilities and take care of my body, since it’s the only one I have. I will, ultimately, enjoy this free time I have, since it’s what everyone is after and it’s available to me, at 41. Thank you all for supporting me through this long journey.


I can see midseason, Manu in the stands, draws a charge as a fan.

[DMC]

It's not bad but it could have been more heartfelt. Bummer he only said thank you once and he didn't even use all caps.

He didn't tap his chest a few times and point to the crowd. Definitely not HOFer

[Beartrucci]

How has Harden not said anything? He got so much of his game from Manu, probably more than anyone.

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZftTxiwJAo

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

How has Harden not said anything? He got so much of his game from Manu, probably more than anyone.

That block. He was Manu's bitch. Manu's bitches only talk when Manu says they can talk. I didn't see Manu giving Harden permission.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Manu was one of the all-time greats in the game.



I think NBA players recognize it more than the talking heads out there. Cris Carter and Shannon Sharpe have taken one too many blows to the head.

[Laker_1995]

Crazy how some people think Parker was better than Manu. Lmao 😂 Manu is a top 5 SG of all time. For a bench player that’s fucking ridiculous. Give this man the amount of shots kobe or wade had he would be much higher on the scoring list.

[beirmeistr]

this feels like a death in the family. I all still watch spurs games, of course, but it won’ t feel the same. I wonder how long pop will go on. I will be hoping that Manu and his family will be in the stands watching some of those games.

[Slippy]

Well i never expected manu to go this long so the last few years were an added bonus. Along with David , my altime favourite spur. Thank you Manu for everything you gave to basketball. You made the game a pleasure to watch & still won. In my era of watching ball only the likes of MJ & magic can boast the same.

[Mikeanaro]

Shaq hasnt said a word, neither Rasheed :rollin

[Spur|n|Austin]

Thanks for the memories, Manu!

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2422/2757/320/Dirk%26Manu.jpg

Too bad nothing came from that for the Mavs :lol

[Spur|n|Austin]

when will pat riley put up his jersey in the rafters for the ring he gave them in '13 and probably '06?

When will the city of Charlotte put anything up in the rafters?

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[Silver&Black]

Never has there been a Spurs player that gave me more ups and downs that Manu. Manu (especially in his prime) would do 2-3 things a night that made you just say, "Wow." Now he also did 2-3 things that same game that had you cussing at the TV and throwing the remote. Can't talk about one without the other.

Just a few things I'm gonna remember: The entire Pistons Finals. The dunk on the entire Lakers team. Halloween night and the bat. These two passes...1)Behind the back to Blair 2)Bullet pass to Bonner.
These are just to name a few.

He's just a class act. Terrific guy. Never any nonsense outta him. Took a bench role happily. One of the best to ever don the Silver & Black. Now I'm waiting for both his Jersey Retirement Speech and his HOF Speech.

Enjoy retirement Manu. You deserve it. Many thanks.

:bobo

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Dan Rather lol


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[sasaint]

Never has there been a Spurs player that gave me more ups and downs that Manu. Manu (especially in his prime) would do 2-3 things a night that made you just say, "Wow." Now he also did 2-3 things that same game that had you cussing at the TV and throwing the remote. Can't talk about one without the other.

Just a few things I'm gonna remember: The entire Pistons Finals. The dunk on the entire Lakers team. Halloween night and the bat. These two passes...1)Behind the back to Blair 2)Bullet pass to Bonner.
These are just to name a few.

He's just a class act. Terrific guy. Never any nonsense outta him. Took a bench role happily. One of the best to ever don the Silver & Black. Now I'm waiting for both his Jersey Retirement Speech and his HOF Speech.

Enjoy retirement Manu. You deserve it. Many thanks.

:bobo

Very well said. I'd like to add that those "ups and downs" weren't just run-of-the-mill ups and downs, though. They were typically monumental peaks and deep canyons often during the course of a single game. That was the nature of his high risk/high reward style.

[BatManu20]

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[SAGirl]

lol supposed to be emotionally invested in derozan/aldridge/gay?
Very difficult to do, let’s not be hypocrites...

Its possible the Spurs never again reach the levels they played at for so long... They need someone unexpected to develop into a top player eventually...

[SpursDynasty85]

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Wow. There was literally no off ball players and 0nly Stephon Marbury was a decent shooter.

[SAGirl]

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Amazing... at 40!
Ill miss him 4 sure.

He sounded so happy with his decision though and it felt like it was time... so to those who couldn’t bear last season... they missed it.

[Ice009]

With Timmy you knew the knee was gone and so it was easier to accept him retiring I think. Manu could still play this year and play well I think...but him walking away on his own terms though is pretty cool for Manu. He had some really good moments last year and carried the Spurs in many games, especially down the stretch.

I'm really bummed I didn't get to see him play one last time, but really grateful for all the memories. :tu

I was hoping he'd play at least one more year. I just don't like how last season went. I think this season we would have had a better chance to finish higher without all the Kawhi bullshit. For some reason, though, I'm nowhere near as sad as when Tim retired. I thought I would be, but maybe that is because I'm disappointed he retired while he could still play. Last season Manu showed he was still a good player in limited minutes, and it if was me, I'd still play if I was physically healthy enough. I'm pretty sure that Tim would also still be playing if his knees didn't pack it in. If I was in the same situation, and I was still physically OK (no major injuries), I'd only retire if I was having a negative effect on the team and hurting the team due to age related decline (less hops, slower reaction time/s, not being able to do what I want to do out on the court), but I don't think that was the case with Manu as he was still in pretty decent/good shape IMO.

I still respect his decision, though. Maybe he wasn't interested in playing if there was no chance at winning a Championship. If that was the case, then I'm cool with that, and don't blame him one bit for retiring as we're used to competing for Championships rather than just to make the playoffs, and an ultimate competitor like Manu might not be interested in continuing to play just to make the playoffs.

[diego]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZftTxiwJAo

damn, are you sure they aren't argies? daslicer, tell me again, what guard has more legend than manu from the 90s and 00s?

Lots of nice articles coming from my network of argentinean spies:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/manu-ginobili-played-basketball-with-reckless-abandon-and-perfect-control?mbid=social_twitter

https://www.gq.com/story/manu-forever?mbid=social_twitter

https://hoopshype.com/2018/08/27/manu-ginobili-retirement-career-personal-accolades/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5b851d2f4b7385000188da00&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter



Nevertheless, for the duration of his prime, the Argentinian lefty put up starter-like numbers anyway. Over a seven-season stretch between 2004-05 and 2010-11, Ginobili averaged 16.8 points, 4.1 rebounds, 4.2 assists, 1.5 steals and 1.7 three-pointers per contest, shooting 45.4 percent from the floor, 37.4 percent from deep and 84.4 percent on 5.3 nightly free-throw attempts.


In that time frame, Ginobili led the Spurs in regular-season Win Shares on two separate occasions. (Yes, you read that correctly: Manu Ginobili, on a team with arguably the greatest power forward of all time on it, actually bested Tim Duncan in accumulated Win Shares over a season – and he did it more than once.) More importantly, San Antonio won two championships over that stretch, one in 2004-05 and another in 2006-07.
..

What helped Ginobili find all that ludicrous team success was that throughout his prime and even late in his playing days, he possessed an otherworldly ability to make outcome-changing impact in extended stints off the bench. That trait is best exemplified by the fact that the ball-handling maestro’s career Box Plus/Minus (+4.9) is the third-best mark since the inception of the three-point line among qualified players with fewer than 400 starts – and the two players ahead of him are current full-time starters who just haven’t crossed the requisite games-started threshold yet.

You might say that’s making a decent impact.

https://www.si.com/nba/2018/08/27/manu-ginobili-announces-retirement-san-antonio-spurs-dynasty-gregg-popovich?utm_source=twitter.com&xid=socialflow_twitter_si&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=thecrossover

http://ballislife.com/nba-players-react-to-manu-ginobilis-retirement/

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/manu-ginobili-retire-spurs-news-euro-step-highlights-argentina-usa-fiba-2002/1g6dzbliszubj13tvuz5j7rbkq?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/08/27/few-players-have-had-a-more-widespread-impact-on-basketball-than-manu-ginobili/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.77e8078f0225


When people think of the Spurs, Ginóbili isn’t the first to come to mind — that would be Tim Duncan or Coach Gregg Popovich. When people think of the best international players in basketball history, he isn’t at the top of the list, either — that would be Dirk Nowitzki or Hakeem Olajuwon. He made an all-star team only twice and earned the same number of all-NBA selections, both times to the third team.

But looking at Ginóbili through a narrow lens obscures the bigger picture. There are few players of the past generation who have made a larger impact on basketball.

https://fansided.com/2018/08/28/nylon-calculus-manu-ginobili-retires-bench-player/


With Kevin McHale as the only other non-starter to cross 100 Wins Added, Manu compiling an impressive 129 is a testament to his incredible impact across the board. He also leads all bench players who played at least 10,000 minutes in career Player Impact Plus-Minus.

Manu even stacks up amazingly against full-time starters in terms of career accomplishments, with his career Wins Added as the 35th highest since 1973-74.

Without a doubt, the most amazing part of having the privilege to enjoy Manu Ginobili for the past 16 years have been the what-in-the-hell-did-he-just-do moments that he provided every game he played in. He only had below a 20 assist percentage twice in his career and if insane, no-look, behind-the-back passes were tracked, I am sure he would have finished near the top of the league every single season.

NEXT: How will Carmelo transition to the Rockets?
As an elite competitor, Manu Ginobili just made his teams better. When he came on the court for his 25 minutes a night, the entire dynamic of the Spurs offense shifted. For his career, across countless iterations of the Spurs ever evolving offense, the team was 4.3 points per 100 possessions better with him on the court offensively.

Manu is one of just 15 qualifying players to average more than 18 points, 5 rebounds and 5 assists per 36 minutes. He is the only one to do it from a bench role. He would and could do anything asked of him, sacrificing what surely would have been more individual acclaim to win four NBA titles and become a legend for the Spurs, Argentina, and basketball as a whole.

Thank you, Manu, for an amazing ride.



and from twitter, dont know how to embed


Ben Taylor
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@ElGee35
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Manu Ginobili peak percentiles from my insider sheet:

scaled APM: 100%
AuPM: 99%
PS 3yr AuPM: 91% (among stars only)
Creation: 99%
Passer rating: 99%

And by my BPM:
8x All-Star
5x All-NBA
Top-5 in 2005
41st in career CORP


:worthy:

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNWUFfXXUAAZN2V.jpg:large

[ace3g]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/3660671b7f989a82065fca074390dd9f/5C2161A0/t51.2885-15/e35/39486070_461009244412562_7458474832812834816_n.jpg ?_nc_eui2=AeFFSp5r5kGJleCqFAxJE8rjCMxOMwkN3y6c8kGq w1cu88rMWi9S7Gs70ZxsZk7feIgODcKvlFlt8LGL3Cy8PSXy

https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA/status/1034153106643275776

[Stabula]

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[alpha_HaZE]

Thanks for the memories Manu :)!

We were all so fortunate to watch him play the game of basketball.

[Russ]

Here's a story from the New Yorker:

Manu Ginóbili Played Basketball with Reckless Abandon and Perfect Control

By Vinson CunninghamAugust 28, 2018

Manu Ginóbili’s athleticism was predicated on creativity, on moments that defied conventional game-planning.Photograph by Kamil Krzaczynski / EFE / ZUMA Press
Manu Ginóbili, who retired on Monday from the N.B.A., after sixteen years as a member of the San Antonio Spurs, was the master of a paradoxical brand of excellence. When we call attention to the dominance of a basketball player, we usually mean that we can see, from the moment he or she touches the ball—and sometimes even before, as the player stands somewhere waiting to receive it—exactly what that player would like to achieve, and how the player will achieve it. He takes the route to the hoop that he’d always meant to take, or passes to the guy he knew would score, or pulls up to shoot from some preplanned and unconscionable distance, regardless of the hand obscuring his vision. From the beginning of his tenure with the Spurs, Ginóbili was different. He never seemed to step onto the court with a fully fleshed-out plan, or to have decided on a move—whether to shoot, to dribble, or to zing some oddball pass, fishy with English—until he was already partway through the motion that made it possible.

This penchant for constant, sometimes infuriating improvisation is the key to his legacy. And what a legacy: he is a four-time N.B.A. champion, almost certainly the best Argentine ever to play in the league; his admission to the Hall of Fame should be undisputed.* His influence is best encapsulated by the now-ubiquitous Euro step—which he didn’t technically invent, but which was adopted by players everywhere in large part because of the flair and ingenuity with which he executed the move. The Euro step is a simple elaboration of one of basketball’s most basic rules: after a player picks up his dribble, he’s allowed two steps before stopping to shoot or pass. But, as that forgotten first Euro stepper figured out, nobody said that those steps have to be taken in a single direction. So you now see players at every level gathering their dribble, jerking toward the center of the lane, baiting defenders to follow, and, then, with another hop, slipping back toward the baseline for an unimpeded layup. A zig and then a zag, which is nearly unstoppable if the zig is sufficiently convincing.

The Euro step is practically one of the game’s fundamentals now, the sort of thing taught at camps to seven-year olds. Sometimes, I’ve noticed, people do it for no real reason at all, when a quick move to one side of the hoop or the other would do just as well. But, in the mid-aughts, when Ginóbili was making the move famous, it appeared to rise out of strict necessity. He was a wild, bouncy presence back then, with long, black hair that traced a kind of wake as he ran; his legs, especially during his impossible forays toward the basket, would shoot him four or five feet forward at a time. So, with an opposing guard tied to his hip, he’d make a little gesture toward the baseline that would somehow leave him nearly out of bounds, then manage a half-balanced catapult in the opposite direction, toward the hoop. It was all contingency, an impromptu solution to a problem that had arisen in the heat of a moment. This is the main difference between Ginóbili and his most prominent descendant, James Harden, the league’s reigning M.V.P. Ginóbili’s offense was predicated on creativity, on moments that defied conventional game-planning, where Harden’s is machinelike, almost algorithmic, in its polish. This, I think, is why Ginóbili inspires cult-like love where Harden garners, let’s say, a more restrained admiration. Ginóbili’s game felt like a metaphor for adaptability.

There was also always the pleasurable tension between Ginóbili, an impulse follower, and the martial-seeming Gregg Popovich, who was the only coach Ginóbili ever had in the N.B.A. In some ways, each of the two men serves as proof of the other’s brilliance. Popovich could be operatic in his annoyance at Ginóbili’s decision-making, but, just as often, he would grin, or simply shake his head, when an ostensibly rash move yielded two or three unexpected, even undeserved, points. Ginóbili was famously willing to come off the bench throughout his career, and Popovich repaid him by leaving him in the game even if he chucked a series of questionable three-pointers or tossed one of his daring passes into the hands of a defender. And, for his part, Ginóbili was able to submit himself to Popovich’s strictures without losing the visionary current that made him more or less inimitable. The Spurs have been the most consistently excellent team of the early twenty-first century, and here was an illustration of what that excellence required, and, perhaps, what it means to play great basketball anywhere, at any time: wonderful plans, shot through with unpredictable inspiration.

Probably Ginóbili has been pondering, perhaps even planning, his retirement for a while now. The departures of his fellow leading men in San Antonio—first Tim Duncan, to retirement, and then Tony Parker, who, earlier this summer, departed for the Charlotte Hornets—provide an obvious occasion to head toward the exits. But I prefer to imagine that Ginóbili retired as he played: on a whim. Maybe he just woke up, gave it a thought, and picked up the phone, ready to surprise Popovich, and his teammates, one last time.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/manu-ginobili-played-basketball-with-reckless-abandon-and-perfect-control

[Brazil]

1034476731963465729

dat big 3...

[Cherry]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40209217_1714371135328192_295707738120388608_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=842f684c9772826f539fb8b5e6abcc4d&oe=5C33DC32

FUUUCK :fight:(

[vander]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40209217_1714371135328192_295707738120388608_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=842f684c9772826f539fb8b5e6abcc4d&oe=5C33DC32

damn

[Spurs Homer]

FUUUCK :fight:(

So, only the Coyote is left?

[r0drig0lac]

So, only the Coyote is left?

yep

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40209217_1714371135328192_295707738120388608_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=842f684c9772826f539fb8b5e6abcc4d&oe=5C33DC32

Oh man!!!

It just needs the Infinity War dust added in those 4 spots and it would be perfect.

[hooperflash]

So, only the Coyote is left?

yep

Can you guys not see Patty , or is that the joke? :lol

[baseline bum]

If I had to pick my favorite moment of Manu's career, it would be an early one. Namely, November 6th, 2003. We never really got to see the real Manu Ginobili his rookie season since he was battling injuries that started with ankle injury in the 2002 World Championships. By the time he started getting healthy it was way too late in the season for him to get the minutes and role his talent should have gotten him. But on 11/06/03 there was no other option with both Parker and Duncan hurt and a Lakers team that looked unreal in the early season when everyone was buying into their roles and sharing the ball. But god, Manu almost carried the Spurs to a win against that ridiculous team in an ugly and angry matchup that looked more like a playoff game than Game 5 of the regular season. That was the time everyone realized that he was for real, that Manu really was a franchise talent. I still love watching that clip of Kobe hiking up his shorts and staring Manu down like motherfucker I'm gonna D you up and Manu throws the ball right through his legs to get Robert Horry an easy layup.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmBLBV0u_J0

To think the Spurs lost that game because of Jason Hart's 8-second call. :pctoss

[FkLA]

San Antonio's favorite son :cry

https://i.imgur.com/07sWkNp.jpg?1

[FkLA]

If I had to pick my favorite moment of Manu's career, it would be an early one. Namely, November 6th, 2003. We never really got to see the real Manu Ginobili his rookie season since he was battling injuries that started with ankle injury in the 2002 World Championships. By the time he started getting healthy it was way too late in the season for him to get the minutes and role his talent should have gotten him. But on 11/06/03 there was no other option with both Parker and Duncan hurt and a Lakers team that looked unreal in the early season when everyone was buying into their roles and sharing the ball. But god, Manu almost carried the Spurs to a win against that ridiculous team in an ugly and angry matchup that looked more like a playoff game than Game 5 of the regular season. That was the time everyone realized that he was for real, that Manu really was a franchise talent. I still love watching that clip of Kobe hiking up his shorts and staring Manu down like motherfucker I'm gonna D you up and Manu throws the ball right through his legs to get Robert Horry an easy layup.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmBLBV0u_J0

To think the Spurs lost that game because of Jason Hart's 8-second call. :pctoss

That's when I knew he was going to be special. Lakers were the heavy title favorites after adding GP and Malone and Manu had them on the ropes with guys like Hart and that blonde Aussie (Heal?) seeing significant minutes. Seems like it was just yesterday. :cry

[Stabula]

I'll never be able to get behind DDR, LMA, Murray, and whoever else the way I did for the legendary big 3

[Russ]

We never really got to see the real Manu Ginobili his rookie season since he was battling injuries that started with ankle injury in the 2002 World Championships. By the time he started getting healthy it was way too late in the season for him to get the minutes and role his talent should have gotten him. . . .

I gotta disagree slightly -- Manu played an important role earlier in the June '03 title run.

The steal below was a critical play in clinching Game 6 vs. the Nets and a play I will always remember:

=9Qtb3IDifQ0

[baseline bum]

I gotta disagree slightly -- Manu played an important role earlier in the June '03 title run.

The steal below was a critical play in clinching Game 6 vs. the Nets and a play I will always remember:

=9Qtb3IDifQ0

We knew he was special in the 03 title run, but this 2OT game against the Lakers was the first time you could see he was a just give him the ball and get the hell out of the way level player.

[spurraider21]

If I had to pick my favorite moment of Manu's career, it would be an early one. Namely, November 6th, 2003. We never really got to see the real Manu Ginobili his rookie season since he was battling injuries that started with ankle injury in the 2002 World Championships. By the time he started getting healthy it was way too late in the season for him to get the minutes and role his talent should have gotten him. But on 11/06/03 there was no other option with both Parker and Duncan hurt and a Lakers team that looked unreal in the early season when everyone was buying into their roles and sharing the ball. But god, Manu almost carried the Spurs to a win against that ridiculous team in an ugly and angry matchup that looked more like a playoff game than Game 5 of the regular season. That was the time everyone realized that he was for real, that Manu really was a franchise talent. I still love watching that clip of Kobe hiking up his shorts and staring Manu down like motherfucker I'm gonna D you up and Manu throws the ball right through his legs to get Robert Horry an easy layup.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmBLBV0u_J0

To think the Spurs lost that game because of Jason Hart's 8-second call. :pctoss
shane heal sighting

[baseline bum]

shane heal sighting

Whott was such a fan of his. Damn I miss that guy even though we agreed on almost nothing. :lol

[Arcadian]

Favorite Manu memory #1: catching a wild bat with his bare hands

#2: Literally busting a nut (thanks Ryan Anderson) and still coming back to play with one ball

[spurraider21]

this was a low-stakes, meaningless regular season game from the crappy 2010 season, a game where manu only scored 14 points. nothing special in the box.

but for some reason is always one of the first games that comes to mind when i think of some great manu moments. the assists to RJ/McDyess/Blair were just something else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6gu7A1PQIU

[manufan10]

4EOaswqRUwM

Will never forget this moment.

[manufan10]

DiMW5_1dEIc

[Spurtacular]

4EOaswqRUwM

Will never forget this moment.

Best part was Cancerny crying about it in postgame at his locker.

[Skoobz]

Man, this sucks ass tbh. Adios Argentine legend - thanks for your hard work, loyalty and commitment even when he who shall not be named bitched out your last season.

Salute Manu.

PS: FCK Hater and The Gayest Yacht.

[BillMc]

So, only the Coyote is left?

Actually, there's even a different guy playing the Coyote.

[BatManu20]

End of an era indeed.

1034854724825239554

[lefty20]

A fucking Legend. Dude is my favorite Athlete of All Time and it ain't even close.

[hooperflash]

1035119943656898560

[DAF86]

this was a low-stakes, meaningless regular season game from the crappy 2010 season, a game where manu only scored 14 points. nothing special in the box.

but for some reason is always one of the first games that comes to mind when i think of some great manu moments. the assists to RJ/McDyess/Blair were just something else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6gu7A1PQIU

This was the game where Manu had 14, 10 and 9 in like just 20 minutes. Pop asked him if he wanted to keep playing to get that 10th rebound and Manu was like "nah".

But then idiots that put raw numbers over all (among them even some Spurs fans) will say "Manu wasn't that great. He never even had a triple double".

[diego]

Took me a while to find it:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200712050SAS.html

Spurs v Mavs, Timmy is out, Manu leads Parker, Bowen, Elson and oberto to 2pt victory vs Dirk, Terry, Harris Howard and dampier. 37/4/6, and a nasty dunk on Howard and diop who were trying to rough him up all game (no foul called on the clear shot to the face).

The third quarter was 31-17 Spurs, Manu had 16 pts on 6 shots including the dunk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ReFuGEoEpA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHuVDHh50kM

[Blake]

Thank you Manu.

:depressed

[Floyd Pacquiao]

The amount of love manu has received across the league and sports in general is pretty amazing. His original retirement tweet now has over 375k likes.

[gambit1990]

1034139515718430720

[DAF86]

1034139515718430720

Game. Set. Match.

[Phenomanul]

He was closing most of those games too...

They had another article compiling his crunch time stats saying that no other player in the 2000s had better PLAYOFF crunchtime numbers. Not Kobe, not Wade, not LeBron, not Melo, not Kidd, not Nowitzki, not Kevin Garnett, not Paul Pierce, not Chauncey Billups, not Nash... Manu freaking Ginobili.

[NASpurs]

Manu was at practice today

BnHKpksn4bP

[Diego20]

Manu was practice today

BnHKpksn4bP

y'all dont get it.. this is all a joke, manu is playing the first game of the regular season..

oh wait.. :(

[TMTTRIO]

CIA Pop: Manu maybe we can use you to make them think you're retiring.

[BillMc]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dl5L85kXoAA95XK.jpg

[hooperflash]

1035316235439931398

[Since89]

He was closing most of those games too...

They had another article compiling his crunch time stats saying that no other player in the 2000s had better PLAYOFF crunchtime numbers. Not Kobe, not Wade, not LeBron, not Melo, not Kidd, not Nowitzki, not Kevin Garnett, not Paul Pierce, not Chauncey Billups, not Nash... Manu freaking Ginobili.

Manu didnt have to carry his team for 35 mins then step it up in crunch time. He had Tim Fukn Duncan.

[r0drig0lac]

1035316235439931398

only one of these can carry your NT for the glories

[Chillen]

He can always unretire. There is nothing stopping him from changing his mind at some point.

Of course it doesn't look good in the public eye to retire and come back but it's his call.

Like Tim he is just gonna be hanging around all the time. He will probably stay retired.

I would not be surprised to see him come back he is very competitive. I think though even if he gets that itch to return he will probably stay retired.

[vander]

So will Manu continue living in America? or go back to Argentina?

[JWH]

Manu was at practice today

BnHKpksn4bP


Has this been confirmed as being yesterday or at least since his retirement announcement?

[sasaint]

He was closing most of those games too...

They had another article compiling his crunch time stats saying that no other player in the 2000s had better PLAYOFF crunchtime numbers. Not Kobe, not Wade, not LeBron, not Melo, not Kidd, not Nowitzki, not Kevin Garnett, not Paul Pierce, not Chauncey Billups, not Nash... Manu freaking Ginobili.

And his detractors want to focus on his not being a "starter" - when he was THE "finisher"... SMH!

[sasaint]

So will Manu continue living in America? or go back to Argentina?

Yeah, that's the big question in my mind. Since his kids are enrolled in school, he will prolly be here this season. Beyond that I hope he joins the staff, and maybe even succeeds Pop.

[bjpk]

So will Manu continue living in America? or go back to Argentina?
living here in ARg. is a nightmare....... 55 years doing it... I know. Manu will respect the scolarship of the kids, and return back to argentina just the time to get fun with friends or so... then back to usa to get safe....

[BillMc]

He can always unretire. There is nothing stopping him from changing his mind at some point.

Of course it doesn't look good in the public eye to retire and come back but it's his call.

Like Tim he is just gonna be hanging around all the time. He will probably stay retired.

I would not be surprised to see him come back he is very competitive. I think though even if he gets that itch to return he will probably stay retired.

As long as there is no Brett Favre-like hell I'm fine with him coming back. But like you I think he'll stay retired.

[sasaint]

living here in ARg. is a nightmare....... 55 years doing it... I know. Manu will respect the scolarship of the kids, and return back to argentina just the time to get fun with friends or so... then back to usa to get safe....

A couple of years ago, my wife and I spent a couple of weeks in Argentina - Iguazú, Bariloche, Buenos Aires (3 days). We enjoyed our trip and were not ever concerned for personal safety. Money changers were everywhere in BA, as the economy was a big concern - as it perpetually seems to be...

[bjpk]

A couple of years ago, my wife and I spent a couple of weeks in Argentina - Iguazú, Bariloche, Buenos Aires (3 days). We enjoyed our trip and were not ever concerned for personal safety. Money changers were everywhere in BA, as the economy was a big concern - as it perpetually seems to be...

I said safe not in a sense of fisical security, or robery..... that its as any place...but mental safe.... its a rollercoaster. today we have a devaluation of our money of 10%. but last week we found that the former president stole 36.000 millons of dollars..(yes , that amount)... and so..every week a new issue. .manu have a lot of money in their pocket, he remain in the states....

[gambit1990]

He can always unretire.
that is what i want him to do. come back in january/february. sean elliott considered returning for a 2003 playoff run iirc.

what stops manu from returning depends on what the spurs did with manu's contract. if the spurs treated his contract like duncan's then i don't think he can return to the spurs this upcoming season.

[kaji157]

I said safe not in a sense of fisical security, or robery..... that its as any place...but mental safe.... its a rollercoaster. today we have a devaluation of our money of 10%. but last week we found that the former president stole 36.000 millons of dollars..(yes , that amount)... and so..every week a new issue. .manu have a lot of money in their pocket, he remain in the states....
Please link

[Architects08]

Damn, you niggas had quite the offseason. Manu was always fun to watch. Respect #20 :toast

[Seventyniner]

this was a low-stakes, meaningless regular season game from the crappy 2010 season, a game where manu only scored 14 points. nothing special in the box.

but for some reason is always one of the first games that comes to mind when i think of some great manu moments. the assists to RJ/McDyess/Blair were just something else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6gu7A1PQIU

Great find. I love how Manu would pass the ball not to the man but where the man needs to be. There were at least three ridiculous bounce passes in that video alone.

Some people like to say that Manu would have had gaudy Harden-like numbers if he was the #1 option on a worse team, but I don't know if Manu would be able to put up with less talented teammates that wouldn't be where they needed to be to receive his passes. Having really talented teammates like Tim and Tony and great finishing bigs like Splitter and Blair brought out the best in Manu.

He would have made an amazing NFL QB, except that he might have gotten broken in half in his first season as a starter.

[bjpk]

Please link

https://twitter.com/fargosi/status/1028647769207201793?lang=es

[DAF86]

Great find. I love how Manu would pass the ball not to the man but where the man needs to be. There were at least three ridiculous bounce passes in that video alone.

Some people like to say that Manu would have had gaudy Harden-like numbers if he was the #1 option on a worse team, but I don't know if Manu would be able to put up with less talented teammates that wouldn't be where they needed to be to receive his passes. Having really talented teammates like Tim and Tony and great finishing bigs like Splitter and Blair brought out the best in Manu.

He would have made an amazing NFL QB, except that he might have gotten broken in half in his first season as a starter.

Being where you need to be has to do with IQ, not talent. And not even that high of an IQ, after a couple trainings alongside Manu you understand where you need to be as a roller. That's why limited players like Blair, Splitter, Oberto, Mohamed, Bonner, etc. understood Manu to perfection. Actually, Manu does the thinking for you.

[Seventyniner]

Being where you need to be has to do with IQ, not talent. And not even that high of an IQ, after a couple trainings alongside Manu you understand where you need to be as a roller. That's why limited players like Blair, Splitter, Oberto, Mohamed, Bonner, etc. understood Manu to perfection. Actually, Manu does the thinking for you.

Being where you need to be: IQ. What you do when you get there: talent. Someone with hands of stone but good BBIQ is still going to fumble passes, even from Manu.

Splitter was a great PnR finisher, hardly "limited" and not deserving to be lumped in with guys like Mohammed and Bonner in that regard. Blair was a pretty good finisher too, it's just that his defense was poor and his rebounding didn't make up for it so he was usually a net negative.

[kaji157]

https://twitter.com/fargosi/status/1028647769207201793?lang=es

I had been reading that and couldn't find any reliable source for the formula. Thou I can tell you a couple of mistakes in that article.
First off it's a theory, secondly it has a perennial error that is commonly in non serious articles. It takes off by speculating a wide amount of networks used to "steal money" yet on their own calculations they don't stimate the time it takes to. A find the correct people to develop such a complex network. B the times it takes to start the network. C it considers a lineal amount of cash flow Wich is incorrect because you have to at least spare in two phases ( start and full speed).
Those are the basics. I am surprised by the low quality of that article and many more I read to conclude this. And also by the fact that the Argentinean journalism's is based mostly on opinions and very little on cold facts.

[Pocho La Pantera]

I said safe not in a sense of fisical security, or robery..... that its as any place...but mental safe.... its a rollercoaster. today we have a devaluation of our money of 10%. but last week we found that the former president stole 36.000 millons of dollars..(yes , that amount)... and so..every week a new issue. .manu have a lot of money in their pocket, he remain in the states.... kirchnerismo stole a lot more, that number is only the public construction. Energy, imports, djai, health. Education, provinces, are not included there

[Dverde]

The word “Left” should be changed to “Ginóbili” on all San Antonio highway signs. Get it done RC!

[baseline bum]

Two of my favorite games of Manu's career


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3_pkEiF09A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VV6ibmaUFc

[Spurtacular]

Two of my favorite games of Manu's career


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3_pkEiF09A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VV6ibmaUFc

The NBA doesn't do these old players and their legacies any favors by putting copyright violations on any videos not in 240P.

[Killakobe81]

Not in the NBA. Best closeout are the ones that have the highest reach which usually means your closing out with one hand. Manu took the safe route. Just like parker on Ray Allen. You close out on clutch shooters by changing the arc of their shot not crowding them.

His arc did change!!
Well at least his shooting motion, did for sure.. That was good defense imo and is contest was not as late and much better than Tony's...

[boutons_deux]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvqZO1LIf0U

[SpursDynasty85]

His arc did change!!
Well at least his shooting motion, did for sure.. That was good defense imo and is contest was not as late and much better than Tony's...

I think the arc was exactly what Fisher wanted it to be. At that moment I much prefer Ginobili contesting high with one hand to make Fisher question his shot while was still in motion. Fisher took a risky higher arc but once he decided to so it he knew Ginobili was not going to get to it. Same with Parker on Ray Allen.

Parker got their a second late and wanted to body him a bit before Ray took the shot. Both with split second decisions that I don't blame them for but hindsight is 20/20.

[benefactor]

Two of my favorite games of Manu's career


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3_pkEiF09A


Saw it in person. One of my best memories as a fan.

[timvp]

I really wanted Manu to play for another year. It would have been great to have him around for one more year to bridge the gap to the next generation. But I obviously respect his decision. I'll miss watching him play the game of basketball.

Outstanding career. Unforgettable highlights. Genuine person. It was fun. Really damn fun.

Thanks for everything, Manu.

:tu

[spurs10]

I really wanted Manu to play for another year. It would have been great to have him around for one more year to bridge the gap to the next generation. But I obviously respect his decision. I'll miss watching him play the game of basketball.

Outstanding career. Unforgettable highlights. Genuine person. It was fun. Really damn fun.

Thanks for everything, Manu.

:tu Yes I'm really grateful having Manu on our team for all these remarkable seasons. The highest winning % in the NBA for any player that played over 1000 games.

Muchisimas gracias Manu! Might need to buy a ticket to Springfield, Mass.
:flag:

[ace3g]

BnSd_uehM7k


Man(u) Oh man(u), where do I start...first I want to congratulate you on a hell of a career. From the time I watched you from home while I was in high school to becoming your teammate, you’ve always been one of my favorite players. It was always an aspiration to be half as good as you. I've learned so much from you over these last 8 seasons that made me a better player and person...still trying to get that eurostep in my game, but my hips won’t let me lol! I always hated the fact that you came off the bench and that you subbed in for me because I had the most fun when I shared the court with you. Your approach & passion for every game, practice and everything that you did has inspired so many, including myself. You are the ultimate warrior and a true champion! I’ve been extremely blessed to share a locker room with you and to be able to call you my friend and brother. It sucks to see you go, but a complete honor to have played with you for your last game. I wish you well in your next chapter and tell my favorite guys in the Spurs arena (your sons) i will miss them on the sidelines cheering for us, especially Luca lol. Much Love Gramps and hope to see you on the sidelines again sometime soon! @manuginobili (https://www.instagram.com/manuginobili/) 🙏🏾💯

[Phenomanul]

:tu #tears

[Since89]

BnSd_uehM7k

Green better come back next season.

[Stabula]

I love Manu but it's good that he's going now after one hell of a season and allowing the young guns to develop. Classy move tbh.

[rjv]

saw the tribute from danny green. i guess i shouldn't hold my breath waiting on one from leonard.

[Dex]

saw the tribute from danny green. i guess i shouldn't hold my breath waiting on one from leonard.

Kawhi would say THANK YOU for retiring!

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/ptitecao/status/1035200589439885312

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dl3FaqYWsAI54ja.jpg:large

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io0uLvkxL6Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rzxc9lm1R4&feature=youtu.be

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/pabloborsu/status/1038403585455910913

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/1036721997743448064

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHhXQF_RmFQ

full video here:

https://foxsanantonio.com/sports/manu-ginobili-on-retirement-memories-chicken-fingers-and-more

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvbeJxv82io

[Play Boban]

:cry

[tbhtbhtbhtbhtbh]

Manu got me into basketball and the Spurs specifically. #NeverForget

[boutons_deux]

the outpouring of respect from the entire basketball business shows that Manu was a exceptional player and exceptional person.

[sammy]

:cry Spurs won't be the same without Manu!

[bigfan]

The guy has been one of the greatest Spurs obviously. I'd love to see him stick around in a front office or coaching job but I bet he misses his home in Argentina and is ready to move back there for good. All I can say is thanks for the years Manu.

[chasky]

kirchnerismo stole a lot more, that number is only the public construction. Energy, imports, djai, health. Education, provinces, are not included there

No, Macri is the worst president in the world, we live a lot better with the kirchners... they had a lot of defects but people live better... is a shame that Macri cant "change" the bad things of kirchnerismo, instead he destroy the good things that kirchnerismo made.

[Canyonero]

Kircherns and Macri are all shit fwiw. Stop the OT so we can appreciate our GOAT :worthy::worthy::worthy:

[kaji157]

No, Macri is the worst president in the world, we live a lot better with the kirchners... they had a lot of defects but people live better... is a shame that Macri cant "change" the bad things of kirchnerismo, instead he destroy the good things that kirchnerismo made.

Nice to see you back Chasky

[Pocho La Pantera]

No, Macri is the worst president in the world, we live a lot better with the kirchners... they had a lot of defects but people live better... is a shame that Macri cant "change" the bad things of kirchnerismo, instead he destroy the good things that kirchnerismo made.
The little defect is that they stole no less than 3,6 billion dollars.

[chasky]

Nice to see you back Chasky

Hi, this is a wierd season for the Argentines, 0 Argentines in the NBA... Campazzo, Deck, Vildoza in ACB are the best prospects to have another NBA player from Argentina. Maybe Next season, but i dont see that happening.

And may be we cant see another player with the influence of Manu in our lives.

[kaji157]

Hi, this is a wierd season for the Argentines, 0 Argentines in the NBA... Campazzo, Deck, Vildoza in ACB are the best prospects to have another NBA player from Argentina. Maybe Next season, but i dont see that happening.

And may be we cant see another player with the influence of Manu in our lives.

For sure, as Manu will always be the first Argentinean to be a star, but maybe just maybe we see someone half as important as number 20.

[Lagru20]

Easy to be a "good" president with 10 years of fiscal deficit. At some point, however, you have to face reality or end up like chavist Venezuela.

[SAGirl]

I appreciate his interview about it. Thanks Manu!

[gambit1990]

not sure if the video has been posted but this was a game that's been mentioned:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoG9xLUWtys

manu had to share the court with the likes of jason hart, devin brown, shane heal, ron mercer :lol

[rastaspur]

Manu is such a legend. I saw him score 24 straight points against the hawks in atlanta in 07. The atlanta fans jaws lierally all dropped to the floor as manu was just singlehandedly man handling the whole team. It was crazy.

[Ice009]

Manu is such a legend. I saw him score 24 straight points against the hawks in atlanta in 07. The atlanta fans jaws lierally all dropped to the floor as manu was just singlehandedly man handling the whole team. It was crazy.

Was that the 24 points in like 4 minutes something? You got to see that game live?

[rastaspur]

Yes. I was about 20th row. Best seats i ever had. It was insane. The crowd pulled a rocky IV. Everyone was cheering for him like the hometown hero during the end. It was cool.

[Ice009]

Manu is such a legend. I saw him score 24 straight points against the hawks in atlanta in 07. The atlanta fans jaws lierally all dropped to the floor as manu was just singlehandedly man handling the whole team. It was crazy.

Wow, that's pretty cool. Did you live there back then, or were you just there and happened to catch that game? Was Kevin Willis on that Atlanta team back then? I always found it cool that KW would hype up Manu even after he was let go by the Spurs.

[rastaspur]

I live relatively close. Used to travel to memphis, nola and atlanta to see the spurs during the regular season. Ive lived all over the south. Florida, georgia, alabama and north carolina

[ElNono]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/12E1C/production/_103204377_mediaitem103204376.jpg

[hater]

So glad this scrub is off the team finally nigas.

On a more important note We will really miss MVParker thou

I dreamt we started 0-3 due to missing Parkers leadership.


Im never wrong

[XDT76]

I am not a hater of Tony, but you know we started without him in the first half of last season right?

[Brazil]

Yes. I was about 20th row. Best seats i ever had. It was insane. The crowd pulled a rocky IV. Everyone was cheering for him like the hometown hero during the end. It was cool.

That's dope mate !

[kaji157]

Easy to be a "good" president with 10 years of fiscal deficit. At some point, however, you have to face reality or end up like chavist Venezuela.
Lol
Clearly you've never been in Venezuela or know nothing about economics.
You could have ten more years of whatever government you want in Argentina, yet you've never were going to be "Venezuela".
Clearly those kind of assumptions only show that the standard voter in Argentina and it's media is really uninformed in both political affairs and economics.
So far, internationally your current president has been treated fairly worst in the international media that your last, and I could clearly point that none of both is treated as the next "Maduro" or "Chavez" that's just an invention of Argentina's media.
You were never close of being Venezuela, just travel around South America and check.

[hater]

I am not a hater of Tony, but you know we started without him in the first half of last season right?

His leadership was stil present

[chasky]

Easy to be a "good" president with 10 years of fiscal deficit. At some point, however, you have to face reality or end up like chavist Venezuela.

That is a Lie, fiscal deficit in average in the Kirchners administration was the lowest of any administration in 117 years in Argentina. Check your data, actually in Macri administration the average of fiscal deficit is one of the highest. I repeat Kirchners had a LOT of defects, but unemployement was really low in Argentina standards, people in general live better that in this moments, and external deubt was really low. And nobody who lives in Argentina can argue this three things and some others.

[Phenomanul]

not sure if the video has been posted but this was a game that's been mentioned:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoG9xLUWtys

manu had to share the court with the likes of jason hart, devin brown, shane heal, ron mercer :lol

Yeah that game finished after midnight... this clip shows one of the more memorable blooper moments I've witnessed in person. Kobe scores a bucket and begins to wag his finger tauntingly at the crowd - but he trips on his own feet and ends up doing a backward roll - they must've shown that clip on the jumbotron like 15 times during the remainder of the game... :lol

If you watch the entire clip you can see how the Lakers went on their runs with Ginobili on the bench.

[Phenomanul]

The 12:05 mark on the video was the Ref moment that allowed the Lakers to eventually take the win. Manu gets fouled by Shaq in the waning moments of the 4th but the refs swallowed their whistles, Shaq outlets to Kobe who then gets the same sort of contact - and of course they do call that one.

[kaji157]

Sometimes it's really good to look out for opinions about your own country in media from around the world. They are usually more "objective" as they don't have interests to defend.
https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/http%3A%2F%2Fcom.ft.imagepublish.upp-prod-us.s3.amazonaws.com%2F5278150e-594c-11e8-bdb7-f6677d2e1ce8?source=next&fit=scale-down&quality=highest&width=490

[Lagru20]

Sometimes it's really good to look out for opinions about your own country in media from around the world. They are usually more "objective" as they don't have interests to defend.
https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/http%3A%2F%2Fcom.ft.imagepublish.upp-prod-us.s3.amazonaws.com%2F5278150e-594c-11e8-bdb7-f6677d2e1ce8?source=next&fit=scale-down&quality=highest&width=490

Wow feels like know everything about me! What media I watch or don´t watch. What countries I have visited latley. Remarkable!

I´m not sure what is your point. All I see is the former goverment´s primary deficit rising more 100% every year in an unsustainable fashion (Reserves fell to less than half by 2015. Macri assumed the presidency on Dec, 2015, just to be clear).

And I`d rather take on debt than to increase primary deficit just for the sake of people´s happìnes, like chasky our soft-hearted friend would . Bond holders mind their own buissines once you pay, they dont expect you to find them useless jobs or file for child support while inflation rises. Better on the long run.

By now, however primary fiscal deficit is just 0.3%, and intrest make for 3.2% of GDP. IMHO,

https://www.reuters.com/article/argentina-fiscal/update-1-argentina-primary-deficit-falls-to-0-8-pct-of-gdp-in-first-half-idUSL1N1UF0Y1

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/13/reuters-america-update-2-argentina-q1-deficit-just-0-point-3-pct-of-gdp-beats-goal-minister.html

Finally, I´ve been to Venezuela actually. Copa America 2007. Different country, diffrent economy, less educated people. However, same flaws on the economic model, flaws on steroids. They didn´t see it coming.


Lets, not continue this. This is a Manu appreciation thread. If it was up to me all political/economic comments should be deleted from this thread, included this one.

Cheers!

[kaji157]

Wow feels like know everything about me! What media I watch or don´t watch. What countries I have visited latley. Remarkable!

I´m not sure what is your point. All I see is the former goverment´s primary deficit rising more 100% every year in an unsustainable fashion (Reserves fell to less than half by 2015. Macri assumed the presidency on Dec, 2015, just to be clear).

And I`d rather take on debt than to increase primary deficit just for the sake of people´s happìnes, like chasky our soft-hearted friend would . Bond holders mind their own buissines once you pay, they dont expect you to find them useless jobs or file for child support while inflation rises. Better on the long run.

By now, however primary fiscal deficit is just 0.3%, and intrest make for 3.2% of GDP. IMHO,

https://www.reuters.com/article/argentina-fiscal/update-1-argentina-primary-deficit-falls-to-0-8-pct-of-gdp-in-first-half-idUSL1N1UF0Y1

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/13/reuters-america-update-2-argentina-q1-deficit-just-0-point-3-pct-of-gdp-beats-goal-minister.html

Finally, I´ve been to Venezuela actually. Copa America 2007. Different country, diffrent economy, less educated people. However, same flaws on the economic model, flaws on steroids. They didn´t see it coming.


Lets, not continue this. This is a Manu appreciation thread. If it was up to me all political/economic comments should be deleted from this thread, included this one.

Cheers!

Both of your numbers are incorrect, 0,8 represents the deficit of the first 4 months, at least you have to multiply it by 3 to have a somehow credible measure. That it will not tell you the whole truth as it is usual that the deficit grows more by the end of the period.
That said this year proyected primarily deficit for Argentina is (most optimist) -2.6 and to that you have to add almost a full 4 percent of fiscal deficit (debt interest). That would put Argentina at it's historically worst scenario.
I don't want to have a political argument here, just by the numbers this administration is worse that the one before.

[chasky]

https://hoopshype.com/2018/08/27/manu-ginobili-retirement-career-personal-accolades

[SAGirl]

Manu finally opened that taqueria that everyone kept talking about. Apparently it's a hit.

1047586759352221696

I heard he was also welcomed into a very exclusive club.

1047554906423525376

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/OlympicCh_es/status/1047894351274266626

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoxREd8X4AYvwWo.jpg:large

[Pocho La Pantera]

This
Wow feels like know everything about me! What media I watch or don´t watch. What countries I have visited latley. Remarkable!

I´m not sure what is your point. All I see is the former goverment´s primary deficit rising more 100% every year in an unsustainable fashion (Reserves fell to less than half by 2015. Macri assumed the presidency on Dec, 2015, just to be clear).

And I`d rather take on debt than to increase primary deficit just for the sake of people´s happìnes, like chasky our soft-hearted friend would . Bond holders mind their own buissines once you pay, they dont expect you to find them useless jobs or file for child support while inflation rises. Better on the long run.

By now, however primary fiscal deficit is just 0.3%, and intrest make for 3.2% of GDP. IMHO,

https://www.reuters.com/article/argentina-fiscal/update-1-argentina-primary-deficit-falls-to-0-8-pct-of-gdp-in-first-half-idUSL1N1UF0Y1

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/13/reuters-america-update-2-argentina-q1-deficit-just-0-point-3-pct-of-gdp-beats-goal-minister.html

Finally, I´ve been to Venezuela actually. Copa America 2007. Different country, diffrent economy, less educated people. However, same flaws on the economic model, flaws on steroids. They didn´t see it coming.


Lets, not continue this. This is a Manu appreciation thread. If it was up to me all political/economic comments should be deleted from this thread, included this one.

Cheers!

[TheGreatYacht]

Can we move this dumpster to the Club forum? Thought this forum was for SPURS players

[gilmor2002]

https://twitter.com/manuginobili/status/1047544298944811008

[DAF86]

Manu needs to do us a solid and come back from retirement, tbh.

[SAGirl]

Manu needs to do us a solid and come back from retirement, tbh.
Nah. With this curse? No way.

[DAF86]

Manu would still be a top 5 player on this roster of flawed fucks. :lol

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/OlympicCh_es/status/1047894351274266626

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoxREd8X4AYvwWo.jpg:large

Film is available to watch now:

https://www.olympicchannel.com/en/films/detail/five-rings-films-the-golden-generation/film/the-golden-generation-five-rings-films/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=tw-post&utm_campaign=social-owned&utm_content=OCContent_GG&sf202284562=1

[DAF86]

Manu would still be a top 5 player on this roster of flawed fucks. :lol

Truer than ever. Who was the fucker that was arguing with me last season that Manu needed to go? You know who you are fucker. :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Truer than ever. Who was the fucker that was arguing with me last season that Manu needed to go? You know who you are fucker. :lol

Manu should have went to GS, he's a huge fan and they desperately need bench help..

[TheGreatYacht]

He was a negative all around last year :lol not sure why this thread was bumped...

[kaji157]

We would had a chance on all the close games. Now we all know that close games equate loses.

[JeffDuncan]

Manu has retired.

[Pocho La Pantera]

Second best Spur ever.

[spurraider21]

Manu would still be a top 5 player on this roster of flawed fucks. :lol
:lol thinking derrick white is the 3rd best player on the team
:lol thinking bertans starting and getting 30 mpg will solve problems

you just play favorites with your pet players tbh

[Play Boban]

We’d have 3+ more wins with manu. FACT.

[DAF86]

:lol thinking derrick white is the 3rd best player on the team
:lol thinking bertans starting and getting 30 mpg will solve problems

you just play favorites with your pet players tbh

Derrick will be that by the end of the season. Gay, Bertans and then White.

[JeffDuncan]

We’d have 3+ more wins with manu. FACT.

Hell, we'd have 3 more wins with Boban.

[Ice009]

Derrick will be that by the end of the season. Gay, Bertans and then White.

What do you mean by that? You think Aldridge and DeRozen will be gone by then?

[DAF86]

What do you mean by that? You think Aldridge and DeRozen will be gone by then?

Who the hell knows what I meant. I just say things.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/manuginobili/status/1063878648212660224

[Play Boban]

Hell, we'd have 3 more wins with Boban.
:wow Truth nuke :wow

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/manuginobili/status/1070819140762566656

[JeffDuncan]

That is wonderful! Congratulations to the mom and dad of Manu!

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/johndelizondo/status/1124072498973351937

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/InfoManu/status/1123960993858633728

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1155497388989177856

[cutewizard]

the best ever

[cutewizard]

the one you would go to battle to.....

together with Timmy

[Spurtacular]

the best ever

Top ten player for me, tbh.

[hater]

Hope he never sets foot in San Antonio again

[BackHome]

Manu a Living Legend can not wait for him to join the Spurs Organization In 2021 :spin