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Spurtacular
08-27-2018, 05:49 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23841819/manu-ginobili-san-antonio-spurs-career-defined-20-moments-nba

I thought he was going to do one more year, tbh. He must really think the Spurs cannot get the chip for the first time in his career....

I still remember him coming up and just being all over the place; and I was thinking the Lakers wish they had a beast like that.

cd98
08-27-2018, 06:41 PM
They should do a 20 for 20 on whether Manu is a HOF based on his NBA accolades. I think he is, but it would be an interesting debate. Problem is finding a credible source in the media that doesn’t think so. There might be a few that say he isn’t unless you include his international success.

Spurtacular
08-28-2018, 12:32 AM
They should do a 20 for 20 on whether Manu is a HOF based on his NBA accolades. I think he is, but it would be an interesting debate. Problem is finding a credible source in the media that doesn’t think so. There might be a few that say he isn’t unless you include his international success.

I actually thought that list was a little lacking either way. I'll bet there are some Spurs fans here who could do much better. Also, the ranking was terrible. 05 Finals MVP (unofficial) and crushing a "dream team" at the 04 Olympics should be top two regardless of what order.

spurs10
08-28-2018, 01:00 AM
I actually thought that list was a little lacking either way. I'll bet there are some Spurs fans here who could do much better. Also, the ranking was terrible. 05 Finals MVP (unofficial) and crushing a "dream team" at the 04 Olympics should be top two regardless of what order. Yeah you could probably do several hours on Manu's greatest moments. He delivered....and the 04 Olympics is just off the chart.

cd98
08-28-2018, 11:05 AM
I actually think Manu gave us two of the biggest plays in basketball: the euro step and the blocking foul. I know the blocking foul has existed for a long time, but Manu made it a big part of his defense. It started as flopping, but he got so good at anticipating where guys where going and then getting there first. In the 90s, you'd see a charge every so often. Now, you see if multiple times a game. Manu was at the forefront of that change.

daslicer
08-28-2018, 11:09 AM
I actually think Manu gave us two of the biggest plays in basketball: the euro step and the blocking foul. I know the blocking foul has existed for a long time, but Manu made it a big part of his defense. It started as flopping, but he got so good at anticipating where guys where going and then getting there first. In the 90s, you'd see a charge every so often. Now, you see if multiple times a game. Manu was at the forefront of that change.

I actually give Derek Fisher the credit for the blocking foul. He was the first player I saw who could stop a fast break through flopping.

Laker_1995
08-28-2018, 11:19 AM
No Manu, Timmy, Parker, or Klaw? Damn spurs going to look weird.

cd98
08-28-2018, 12:47 PM
I actually give Derek Fisher the credit for the blocking foul. He was the first player I saw who could stop a fast break through flopping.

Derek Fisher was a pro at that too. Probably his best skill. But Manu started as a flopper, but perfected the positioning to get legit charging calls. Fisher was only a flopper.

Spurtacular
08-28-2018, 10:46 PM
I actually give Derek Fisher the credit for the blocking foul. He was the first player I saw who could stop a fast break through flopping.

Manu actually got in position. The refs just pretended Fisher's were charges most the time cos the Lakers on the front.

SpurOutofTownFan
08-31-2018, 07:45 PM
Fisher's charges were almost all bullshit. He flopped like crazy. Refs gave him many of those for no reason

Spurtacular
08-31-2018, 07:49 PM
Fisher's charges were almost all bullshit. He flopped like crazy. Refs gave him many of those for no reason

Laker$ is the reason. And Fox, Horry and even scrubs like George got in on the act. At any given time, the Lakers had three to four serial floppers on the court.

paperboy77
08-31-2018, 08:02 PM
Manu in the latter years always said he'd return if the Spurs truly wanted him. If he felt needed. I guess Pop and RC did not make him feel that way. Sux! The guy could have made an impact with the newbies.

Spurtacular
08-31-2018, 10:57 PM
Manu in the latter years always said he'd return if the Spurs truly wanted him. If he felt needed. I guess Pop and RC did not make him feel that way. Sux! The guy could have made an impact with the newbies.

Probably a half truth. Manu would be back if Kawhi had stayed and Spurs were still serious contenders.

SpursDynasty85
09-01-2018, 12:36 AM
Probably a half truth. Manu would be back if Kawhi had stayed and Spurs were still serious contenders.

Nah. Manu was pushing retirement since 13'. In his letter he made up in his mind that this was the time he would retire. He knows the Spurs wanted him. I think the article was right. He finally felt like his mind and body were done when he came back to workout. He had a heck of a final season though.

Spurtacular
09-01-2018, 01:15 AM
Nah. Manu was pushing retirement since 13'. In his letter he made up in his mind that this was the time he would retire. He knows the Spurs wanted him. I think the article was right. He finally felt like his mind and body were done when he came back to workout. He had a heck of a final season though.

I didn't read the article; but I doubt he'd walk away while still being this good if a ring was a realistic pursuit. It's not in his DNA to do that.

SpurOutofTownFan
09-01-2018, 11:16 AM
Nah. Manu was pushing retirement since 13'. In his letter he made up in his mind that this was the time he would retire. He knows the Spurs wanted him. I think the article was right. He finally felt like his mind and body were done when he came back to workout. He had a heck of a final season though.

I loved the fact Manu had one of his best seasons last year. He really rode off into the sunset.

Elvis has left the building kids....