Joker origin movie [2019]

[djohn2oo8]

With Joaquin Phoenix. Not expected to be apart of DCU like JL etc.

[Blake]

I'd like to care but I just don't. Suicide Squad ruins it for me.

[monosylab1k]

Jared Leto kinda ruined the Joker in movies for a good long while. It’s like putting nipples on the Batsuit, you need a half decade or more before people will forget.

Plus it’s supposed to be directed by Todd Phillips, who sucks ass for the most part.

[AaronY]

DC trying to see how bad they can get apparently

[LaMarcus Bryant]

This is hilarious

[Avante]

If done right meaning go back to the true origins of the character this could be great. But, something tells me .....fail.

[spurraider21]

DC trying to see how bad they can get apparently
trying to be good didnt work for them

when marvel zigs, they zag

altho shazam actually looks fun

[Blake]

If done right meaning go back to the true origins of the character this could be great. But, something tells me .....fail.

I'm thinking John Goodman would be a perfect Joker

[Avante]

I'm thinking John Goodman would be a perfect Joker

I'm sure you do.

[Avante]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WalgYTQjHTc

[StrengthAndHonor]

I’m getting Sin City (part 1) vibes. Not too worried about the director, the Russo’s had some pretty shitty movies pre MCU. It would be funny if the movie does well and the whole DCU is rebooted around this.

[Blake]

I'm sure you do.

Also I'm thinking Steve Harvey if he can get out of his family feud contract

[Blake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WalgYTQjHTc

Now imagine the Joker in the Wild West.

[djohn2oo8]

Depends. I just have a feeling Phoenix is gonna mail in the fuck out of his performance

[Blake]

Depends. I just have a feeling Phoenix is gonna mail in the fuck out of his performance

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Joaquin-Phoenix-Thumbs-Down-Reaction-Gif-In-Gladiator.gif

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Let's get Jesse Eisenberg to play Joker, maybe he would do his method acting thing and kill himself after trying to emulate heath ledger

[StrengthAndHonor]

Depends. I just have a feeling Phoenix is gonna mail in the fuck out of his performance
Joaquin is very selective with his roles. I don’t think he’s in it purely for a paycheck. He turned down Disney to play Strange.

[djohn2oo8]

Let's get Jesse Eisenberg to play Joker, maybe he would do his method acting thing and kill himself after trying to emulate heath ledger
Lol

[djohn2oo8]

https://www.deviantart.com/imizuri/art/JOAQUIN-PHOENIX-JOKER-754608742


concept art is dope though

[Chucho]

Let's get Jesse Eisenberg to play Joker, maybe he would do his method acting thing and kill himself after trying to emulate heath ledger

:lol

[Blake]

Joaquin is very selective with his roles. I don’t think he’s in it purely for a paycheck. He turned down Disney to play Strange.

Glad he did. Cumberbatch nails it.

[chunticakes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WalgYTQjHTc

How fast is the Joker? Is he sub 4.4 speed?

[AaronY]

trying to be good didnt work for them

when marvel zigs, they zag

altho shazam actually looks fun
Alec Baldwin is supposed to play Bruce Wayne's dad in this one but like some kind of fat rich buffoon version. He was good on thirty rock doing something similar but this sounds like it will be mega bad and cartoonish crap movie all the way through

[Pavlov]

Kind of sounds like Warner decided to take the same route with live action DC movies it took with the animated features. Only a few of those are connected with reboots and alternate realities occurring all the time. The result is some really good stories but zero continuity. All the Batman recasting rumors make sense now.

[BD24]

They should use Tom Cruise, after his performance in Jack Reacher I’m confident he could play any role.

[Avante]

How fast is the Joker? Is he sub 4.4 speed?

While at Parkville HS in Boise Idaho he ran a 4.6 on grass. He was a Lancers cornerback and kick returner. Still holds the school record with his 99 yard kickoff return, a record that might be tied but never broken.

Coach Smith talked about how he was.....different.

[Pavlov]

While at Parkville HS in Boise Idaho he ran a 4.6 on grass. He was a Lancers cornerback and kick returner. Still holds the school record with his 99 yard kickoff return, a record that might be tied but never broken.

Coach Smith talked about how he was.....different.No one cares.

Off topic.

[Avante]

They should use Tom Cruise, after his performance in Jack Reacher I’m confident he could play any role.

There is talk of Cruise playing David in a remake of David and Goliath. He wanted the role of Goliath, but the powers that be couldn't afford the $$$$$ he was asking for a part that short.

[Quadzilla99]

Let's get Jesse Eisenberg to play Joker, maybe he would do his method acting thing and kill himself after trying to emulate heath ledger

:lmao

[Blake]

While at Parkville HS in Boise Idaho he ran a 4.6 on grass. He was a Lancers cornerback and kick returner. Still holds the school record with his 99 yard kickoff return, a record that might be tied but never broken.

Coach Smith talked about how he was.....different.

Wow a black joker?

[Blake]

There is talk of Cruise playing David in a remake of David and Goliath. He wanted the role of Goliath, but the powers that be couldn't afford the $$$$$ he was asking for a part that short.

Cruise would make a fine goliath

[Avante]

Cruise would make a fine goliath

Texas Tech huh?

[Pavlov]

Peter Dinklage played a 10 foot tall giant in Infinity War....

[lefty]

Wow those DC movies are a huge clusterfuck

[Xevious]

Wow those DC movies are a huge clusterfuck

[LaMarcus Bryant]

These shitty DC movies are going to force Trainwreck to start fappin to fat chicks with jelly rolls :lol

[djohn2oo8]

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[chunticakes]

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Dell, that looks like shit, tbh. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Dell, that looks like shit, tbh. :lol
And probably will still end up decent compared to the rest of the Recent DC stuff

[Chucho]

Hey! djohn is alive! how'd you store sooo much food under the rock you were hiding?

[LaMarcus Bryant]

:rollin there needs to be a new word invented for how bad DC is at everything they do :lol
:lol DC origin movies

[spurraider21]

i actually think it looks interesting.

then again, everything about suicide squad looked interesting up until i actually watched the movie

[Avant]

The best thing DC ever did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdRY-BjdqJM

[Reck]

The trailer looks promising. Joaquin Phoenix is such a freaky looking creep. Perfect casting.

[Millennial_Messiah]

ugh when will adults wake up and realize that there are way better movies out there than superhero crap!

[Reck]

ugh when will adults wake up and realize that there are way better movies out there than superhero crap!

Why so serious?

Also, funny coming from a guy with Millennial in his name. The most immature, hand holded generation to come in some time.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Why so serious?

Also, funny coming from a guy with Millennial in his name. The most immature, hand holded generation to come in some time.

funny coming from a staunch democrat who needs all of my generation's votes to win

[Reck]

funny coming from a staunch democrat who needs all of my generation's votes to win

I'm actually a millennial myself. I just like to earn my living and work properly.

That's actually quite funny that you think our generation votes.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I'm actually a millennial myself. I just like to earn my living and work properly.

That's actually quite funny that you think our generation votes.

I'm just saying... usually someone who makes a comment like "millennials are too hand held" are pretty far to the right wing and older.

[Kurgan]

ugh when will adults wake up and realize that there are way better movies out there than superhero crap!

Unlike that generic Disney/Marvel shit that's made for adolescents and man children, this actually looks interesting. Visuals looks like there's some actual artistry involved and Joaquin Phoenix seems to be acting his ass off. The fact that this is rated R and not connected to any corny comic universe has me interested.

[lefty]

I think this Joker movie could be good tbh

[lefty]

Unlike that generic Disney/Marvel shit that's made for adolescents and man children, this actually looks interesting. Visuals looks like there's some actual artistry involved and Joaquin Phoenix seems to be acting his ass off. The fact that this is rated R and not connected to any corny comic universe has me interested.

Joaquin’s acting + depression angle can make this movie very interesting.
It looks like this movie will be more about our society than the Joker himself

[Pavlov]

As with just about everything else with the Ledger version of the character, nothing is going to top his Joker's non-origin story -- but life goes on. I'm fine with non-continuity and not sharing a universe in every movie. It works well with the DC animated movies (although the only Superman story they can seem to tell is killing him one way or another) and thank God I don't have to see Jared Leto as the main character.

[140]

Unlike that generic Disney/Marvel shit that's made for adolescents and man children, this actually looks interesting. Visuals looks like there's some actual artistry involved and Joaquin Phoenix seems to be acting his ass off. The fact that this is rated R and not connected to any corny comic universe has me interested.
This tbh

[SpursforSix]

thank God I don't have to see Jared Leto as the main character.

This for sure.

[Reck]

As with just about everything else with the Ledger version of the character, nothing is going to top his Joker's non-origin story -- but life goes on. I'm fine with non-continuity and not sharing a universe in every movie. It works well with the DC animated movies (although the only Superman story they can seem to tell is killing him one way or another) and thank God I don't have to see Jared Leto as the main character.

If anyone can match Ledger's Joker..it's Phoenix.

He seems to specialize on psychotic and maniacal characters and does them well.

Actually this movie promises greatness. We'll get to see the Joker before he was the Joker so it will be interesting to see him descent into the madness we know.

[Pavlov]

There's no one else I'd rather see as the Joker now. Phoenix can play crazy without going over the top too much.

[lefty]

There's no one else I'd rather see as the Joker now. Phoenix can play crazy without going over the top too much.

His forced therapy laugh in that cabaret was creepy as fuck

[SpursforSix]

There's no one else I'd rather see as the Joker now. Phoenix can play crazy without going over the top too much.

I kind of mentally did that exercise as well and concluded the same.

That being said, Ledger's name wouldn't have crossed my mind in TDK.

[Chucho]

Unlike that generic Disney/Marvel shit that's made for adolescents and man children, this actually looks interesting. Visuals looks like there's some actual artistry involved and Joaquin Phoenix seems to be acting his ass off. The fact that this is rated R and not connected to any corny comic universe has me interested.

:bobo

[LaMarcus Bryant]

What if prior to release J. Phoenix commits suicide by Ambien like Heath Ledger did

[Pelicans78]

What if prior to release J. Phoenix commits suicide by Ambien like Heath Ledger did

He’d get nominated for an Oscar.

[ChumpDumper]

Warner seems to finally be getting its act together with DC now that the suits lowered their financial expectations somewhat and aren't demanding a copy of the MCU. They're going to be running like seven different universes between movies and TV and no one cares. Tried out the streaming service during an 80 cent promotion -- it's off to good start.

[DPG21920]

Warner seems to finally be getting its act together with DC now that the suits lowered their financial expectations somewhat and aren't demanding a copy of the MCU. They're going to be running like seven different universes between movies and TV and no one cares. Tried out the streaming service during an 80 cent promotion -- it's off to good start.

What streaming service is that?

[ChumpDumper]

What streaming service is that?DC Universe.

Unless there's another deal like I got, I'd wait a couple months til you can binge the whole season of Doom Patrol which has been really great. It's as crazy as the source material. Titans is OK but tries too hard and the new Swamp Thing looks promising. They also have a lot of the animated features and series in one place along with restored versions of the cheesy 70s series and movies. Won't be worth an ongoing subscription unless you want to read the comic archive too, but I'll sign up to binge series once or twice a year.

[lefty]

He’d get nominated for an Oscar.
:lol

[DPG21920]

DC Universe.

Unless there's another deal like I got, I'd wait a couple months til you can binge the whole season of Doom Patrol which has been really great. It's as crazy as the source material. Titans is OK but tries too hard and the new Swamp Thing looks promising. They also have a lot of the animated features and series in one place along with restored versions of the cheesy 70s series and movies. Won't be worth an ongoing subscription unless you want to read the comic archive too, but I'll sign up to binge series once or twice a year.

Interesting- don’t know how I missed that. I’m not really a tv person. I like movies.

[DPG21920]

I’m really excited about this and I don’t want to watch too many more trailers.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao acting like it being rated R is a magic potion to make it good. Not saying it won’t work, but a good movie is a good movie regardless of rating.

“:cry it’s not good unless someone says fuck a few times :cry”

it’s directed by Todd Phillips, it’s probably going to suck ass regardless of an R rating or if it’s a G rated kids movie.:lol that is a weird choice for director.

The streaming shows might as well have been written by Scorsese with all the F-bombs they have.

[DPG21920]

Phoenix is such a gifted actor that I have the utmost faith in him giving everything he has which alone is usually good enough.

The cinematography already looks beautiful.

The arch makes sense.

I’m not a huge comic book guy, so I don’t have the Joker “unclear backstory” issue that many seem to have. I do think going with the complexity of the question of empathy for people who do bad things makes for something interesting.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

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[Xevious]

I think I'm actually looking forward to this, especially since it has a lower budget and doesn't look like it has any ties to the other DC movies. Joaquin Phoenix and Todd Phillips seem pretty adamant that they don't consider this a comic book movie, but more a character study.

[Pavlov]

Rupert Pupkin sighting.

[Reck]

This movie will be a cult classic.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

This movie will be a cult classic.
https://movieweb.com/joker-movie-reactions-social-media/?fbclid=IwAR2weKuq7I3UNAcHlT74aDcg1kOhzmVHzmtBsCl_ zCsNJ3wJHPRWzJwXQdU


First reviews are in. Apparently it’s amazing.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

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[Sheriff Hoyt]

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[redzero]

I've been saying for years that Todd Phillips should just do a crime movie, instead of making his comedies heavily crime focused. I'm glad he finally did it, with the Joker no less.

[Blake]

I just can't get up for this one.

Maybe I'm wrong but it looks like it's gonna be a long emo movie with little action on a pretty simple plot.

[koriwhat]

I just can't get up for this one.

or your ex...

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

ok i :lold

[Reck]

or your ex...

Damn Blake you really got burned by this crackhead?

[koriwhat]

Damn Blake you really got burned by this crackhead?

what crackhead? you're a tranny and chances are you've seen an alley or two in your time so i'd wager you know more about that drug than i will ever know.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

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[Blake]

Damn Blake you really got burned by this crackhead?

Well you follow me around long enough like kw does and sooner or later you're gonna get a solid jab in there at some point

[cd021]

Phoenix is apparently getting Oscar buzz for the role. Who knew?

[koriwhat]

Well you follow me around long enough like kw does and sooner or later you're gonna get a solid jab in there at some point

ain't that the pot calling the kettle black... COPING MECHANISM!!! poor pansyCuckBlaKKKe

[koriwhat]

Phoenix is apparently getting Oscar buzz for the role. Who knew?

the oscars have been a sham forever so what's new? didn't they say the same about his johnny cash impersonation though i don't remember cash ever having a cleft lip? how about "her" that total flop of a pos movie?

either way this seems like it might be good. the atmosphere of it seems cool like an old noir movie of sorts.

[Blake]

ain't that the pot calling the kettle black... COPING MECHANISM!!! poor pansyCuckBlaKKKe

Sorry but the evidence here is clear as to what happened:

You being the angry you that you are, saw that I posted in this thread.

You followed me in to see what I wrote, saw your chance to take that sweet jab that's been eluding you for oh so many years and you took it.

It was a good one. Now I suggest you take the W and walk away. Stop trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by stalking me like you do.

[koriwhat]

Sorry but the evidence here is clear as to what happened:

You being the angry you that you are, saw that I posted in this thread.

You followed me in to see what I wrote, saw your chance to take that sweet jab that's been eluding you for oh so many years and you took it.

It was a good one. Now I suggest you take the W and walk away. Stop trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by stalking me like you do.

i'm not here for fake W's like you worthless cucks.

i also didn't follow you into this thread even though you'd like to believe you're so important when you're not.

i hope men like you are a dying breed in our society tbh.

[Blake]

i also didn't follow you into this thread even though you'd like to believe you're so important when you're not.


Sorry but the evidence suggests otherwise. Just take that rare W and be happy with it.

[Reck]

the oscars have been a sham forever so what's new? didn't they say the same about his johnny cash impersonation though i don't remember cash ever having a cleft lip? how about "her" that total flop of a pos movie?

either way this seems like it might be good. the atmosphere of it seems cool like an old noir movie of sorts.

They get oscar consideration based on their solo performance, not on whether the movie was good or bad.

Do you stop ever being a massive idiot?

[koriwhat]

Sorry but the evidence suggests otherwise. Just take that rare W and be happy with it.

fuck W's on a stupid messageboard. are you not understanding that i don't live in a make believe world like you do cuck?


They get oscar consideration based on their solo performance, not on whether the movie was good or bad.

Do you stop ever being a massive idiot?

nah, it's all a popularity contest because most really good movies never get mentioned let alone their actors.

[koriwhat]

:lmao at racistBlaKKKe thinking he's so important that i'd follow him into this thread when he posted in 2018 and i could've went after him then. you're such a fucking pussy.

[Blake]

Lol 2018? Wut?

[koriwhat]

Lol 2018? Wut?

Post #2 forgetfulBlaKKKe

[Blake]

Post #2 forgetfulBlaKKKe

Talking about my post from 2018 seems like legit stalker stuff

[koriwhat]

Talking about my post from 2018 seems like legit stalker stuff

Excuses as always. I simply pointed out your ludicrous claim and then the excuses come flowing in from your bitchass bitchassBlaKKKe.

[Blake]

K, stalker

[koriwhat]

K, stalker

why do you cry so much? i guess if i was a bitch like you i'd cry too.

[spurraider21]

kkkoriwhat melting down

[koriwhat]

kkkoriwhat melting down

^^^ just another faggot tooting his/her/its/them/they horn.

[Reck]

^^^ just another faggot tooting his/her/its/them/they horn.

eh eh

[koriwhat]

eh eh

^^^
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[gambit1990]

not a fan of comic book movies but props to dc for taking a risk. they can't compete with an avengers type movie anytime soon... it's actually really smart for them to make one off films. even if this has sequels, that's fine too.

just make good movies. people will pay for this joker and pay for a different joker in a modern era. never saw suicide squad and never will but that joker is fucking awful. dc should cut that shit asap. luckily for dc, affleck is out :tu

[Pavlov]

From what I’ve seen, this movie looks pretty clearly ghost directed by Scorsese, with Todd Phillips just doing whatever Marty told him to. Which is probably why it doesn’t appear to suck.Yeah, you can see every loner De Niro movie rolled up in there, but Scorsese has just been remaking Goodfellas for 30 years so this isn't bad.

[Trill Clinton]

I'm going to wait a few weeks and let the incels do their thing before I see this in theaters.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I can't wait to see what new direction DC tries to take after this shit bombs

Even if the movie is good it'll be unlikely the crowd shifts numbers wise bc it's critically acclaimed and artsy due to the long term DC consistency of sucking. Meanwhile the non comic artsy type fan isn't going to show up in droves either, i dont think. We'll see.

[redzero]

I can't wait to see what new direction DC tries to take after this shit bombs

Even if the movie is good it'll be unlikely the crowd shifts numbers wise bc it's critically acclaimed and artsy due to the long term DC consistency of sucking. Meanwhile the non comic artsy type fan isn't going to show up in droves either, i dont think. We'll see.
There is no way in hell that this $55 million Joker movie is going to bomb. At all.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

There is no way in hell that this $55 million Joker movie is going to bomb. At all.

Never know. It's DC do they really deserve benefit of the doubt? :lol

What box office level will be considered success with that type of budget? And does this lead them to continue making movies like this? Would be nice if DC tried doing their own thing instead of a fake ham fisted mcu rip off.

[Pavlov]

Never know. It's DC do they really deserve benefit of the doubt? :lol

What box office level will be considered success with that type of budget? And does this lead them to continue making movies like this? Would be nice if DC tried doing their own thing instead of a fake ham fisted mcu rip off.The last two DC movies have been stand-alone projects. One was a modest success and the other was a home run. Joker cost basically nothing to make and has major buzz, even on the festival circuit. It's projected to do better in the states than Shazam! which would make it a solid success not even counting the foreign market.

[Reck]

The last two DC movies have been stand-alone projects. One was a modest success and the other was a home run. Joker cost basically nothing to make and has major buzz, even on the festival circuit. It's projected to do better in the states than Shazam! which would make it a solid success not even counting the foreign market.

The R rating hurts it internationally. Specially in China where the bulk of the money would come from.

[Pavlov]

The R rating hurts it internationally. Specially in China where the bulk of the money would come from.If it makes half as much as Logan or Deadpool did overseas, it will be just fine.

[Reck]

If it makes half as much as Logan or Deadpool did overseas, it will be just fine.

Oh I have no doubt it will be just fine. More than

This movie is fixing to make thrice as much as it cost to make. I'm already a fan and I haven't even seen it yet.

[redzero]

Not only has the initial critical reception been positive, but it's the fucking Joker. Logan made $619 million*. Joker will easily match that or surpass it.

Edit.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

If DC starts making good movies not based on batman and superman origin stories I'm all for it.

I'll wait for Joker to come to Prime video.

[Xevious]

Never know. It's DC do they really deserve benefit of the doubt? :lol

What box office level will be considered success with that type of budget? And does this lead them to continue making movies like this? Would be nice if DC tried doing their own thing instead of a fake ham fisted mcu rip off.
From what I understand, this will be labeled as DC Black or some shit. Future movies they do under that label will be in the same vein... one-off stories that are a little more adult oriented and have nothing to do with other DC movies. That way they could still bring back Jared Leto's shitty ass Joker at some point (if they really wanted to) and not contradict anything.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

From what I understand, this will be labeled as DC Black or some shit. Future movies they do under that label will be in the same vein... one-off stories that are a little more adult oriented and have nothing to do with other DC movies. That way they could still bring back Jared Leto's shitty ass Joker at some point (if they really wanted to) and not contradict anything.

LOL imagine 70 year old washed up rock star Jared Leto as the joker in a DC re-telling of Anne Rice's "Queen of the Damned"

[Chris Fall]

The film might be good and I get that it might be a one-off. But it’s another curious casting job by DC. Henry Cavill “looked” the part. Ben Affleck had a big Hollywood name. Joaquin is an established method actor who’s also really fucking weird in real life. But how are you making an origin movie with a guy in his mid 40s? It’d make some sense if Phoenix was like 30 years old. Now, seems odd. One of the very real problems DC suffered from was their casting decisions, from day 1.

If they weren’t spending $300 million to make a huge production, it would have been nice to see them take this “dark” angle with a younger, maybe a little more interesting actor. Bill Skarsgard would have been intriguing imo. That’s not to say Phoenix couldn’t play the part. As an origin story, I’m just curious about the casting decision.

[Sheriff Hoyt]

The film might be good and I get that it might be a one-off. But it’s another curious casting job by DC. Henry Cavill “looked” the part. Ben Affleck had a big Hollywood name. Joaquin is an established method actor who’s also really fucking weird in real life. But how are you making an origin movie with a guy in his mid 40s? It’d make some sense if Phoenix was like 30 years old. Now, seems odd. One of the very real problems DC suffered from was their casting decisions, from day 1.

If they weren’t spending $300 million to make a huge production, it would have been nice to see them take this “dark” angle with a younger, maybe a little more interesting actor. Bill Skarsgard would have been intriguing imo. That’s not to say Phoenix couldn’t play the part. As an origin story, I’m just curious about the casting decision.
Because they needed a name. After Ledger’s performance they needed a big name. Couldn’t risk another flop like Leto

[DAF86]

So, this just won the hipster's movie awards for best picture. The hype is real.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

So, this just won the hipster's movie awards for best picture. The hype is real.

If it's got all that scorcese stuff going for it that's not surprising at all

[djohn2oo8]

That was wild

[SnakeBoy]

I'm going to wait a few weeks and let the incels do their thing before I see this in theaters.

Yeah waiting until the theaters stop paying for extra security before you go sounds like the right plan.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Only seeing this pos if chump dumper likes it even then I'll watch at home

[djohn2oo8]

It was definitely Scorcese all the way through

[Pavlov]

Only seeing this pos if chump dumper likes it even then I'll watch at home

:tu let you know in a couple weeks

[Texas_Ranger]

Saw it yesterday and i survived. No one wanted to shoot up the cinema, so thats good (sorry media). It was pretty good and didn't feel like a comic book movie at all. It felt more like The king of comedy mixed with Taxi driver. Id still say those films are better, but yea Joker was not that bad. Id give it a 7/10.

[djohn2oo8]

Joaquin open to doing more movies

[SnakeBoy]

Saw it today. A bit slow but very good. Not really that violent, at least nothing like what I was expecting from some of the negative critic reviews. Phoenix will get an Oscar

[cd021]

Saw it yesterday and i survived. No one wanted to shoot up the cinema, so thats good (sorry media). It was pretty good and didn't feel like a comic book movie at all. It felt more like The king of comedy mixed with Taxi driver. Id still say those films are better, but yea Joker was not that bad. Id give it a 7/10.

:lol

I sat near the back and every time the doors opened I found my self looking over my shoulder, slumping down in my seat thinking someone might bring a tool in.

Really liked it tbh. Personally, 5/5

[LaMarcus Bryant]

So I'm out of the loop
Why the fuck has the media been predicting someone was going to do a mass shooting during at the theater

[Trainwreck2100]

So I'm out of the loop
Why the fuck has the media been predicting someone was going to do a mass shooting during at the theater

because, white people

[redzero]

I liked it a lot. Arthur shouldn't have crossed the violence threshold so quickly, though.

[koriwhat]

So I'm out of the loop
Why the fuck has the media been predicting someone was going to do a mass shooting during at the theater

because it was a movie that was supposed to pander to "incels". i listened to some tim pool commentary earlier today and he spoke about the movie, loved it, and said it had nothing to do with "incels" whatsoever. it was just fear-hype by our sensationally fake news outlets.

[djohn2oo8]

I liked it a lot. Arthur shouldn't have crossed the violence threshold so quickly, though.
I mean, the meds though lol

[djohn2oo8]

It just seems that there were way too many hints for that twist not to be true

[Spurminator]

So I'm out of the loop
Why the fuck has the media been predicting someone was going to do a mass shooting during at the theater

I haven't really seen "the media" predicting shootings, it's been more of a social media thing. It's a movie about a guy who feels outcast by women and society so he becomes a complete sociopath, so people are pointing out incel and white terrorism connections.

The extra security is probably unnecessary but better safe than sorry.

[Trill Clinton]

I really liked it. The scene where his friends come to check on him was hilarious and demonic at the same time.

[IronMaxipad]

I really liked it. The scene where his friends come to check on him was hilarious and demonic at the same time.

i was worried for the midget

[vy65]

Thought it was amazing. I think the bad reviews are more an outcry against the inevitable incel circle jerk for it than the movie itself

[DarrinS]

Thought it was amazing. I think the bad reviews are more an outcry against the inevitable incel circle jerk for it than the movie itself

Why would incels circle jerk for it?

[vy65]

Why would incels circle jerk for it?

Seriously? Why would disaffected loners circle jerk over a disaffected loner who incites mass violence?

[Isitjustme?]

Thought it was amazing. I think the bad reviews are more an outcry against the inevitable incel circle jerk for it than the movie itself

The movie had a 70% on rotten tomatoes and won some film festival awards so it was mostly good reviews anyway.

[Texas_Ranger]

The movie had a 70% on rotten tomatoes and won some film festival awards so it was mostly good reviews anyway.

anyone that looks at rotten tomatoes for scores is a retard. Fucking Batwoman series is rated higher than the Joker and once again, the losers are deleting user reviews. Also I saw the first ep of Batwoman and perhaps it's not the worst thing in the world (id give it a 4/10), but there is no fucking way it's better than the Joker.

[Ginobilly]

Why would incels circle jerk for it?

Arthur was worse than an incel. He was mentally retarded. Incels at least some get married, some get prostitutes, etc Arthur was imagining the whole relationship with the hot single mom. So he wasn't really shunned by women in the film. Weren't "incels" called nerds/geeks back in the 90s/2000s? Who comes up with these cheesy middle school putdown words?

[Trill Clinton]

Arthur was worse than an incel. He was mentally retarded. Incels at least some get married, some get prostitutes, etc Arthur was imagining the whole relationship with the hot single mom. So he wasn't really shunned by women in the film. Weren't "incels" called nerds/geeks back in the 90s/2000s? Who comes up with these cheesy middle school putdown words?

Incels gave themselves that name, dumbass. It stands for involuntary celibate which i'm sure you can relate to.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

anyone that looks at rotten tomatoes for scores is a retard. Fucking Batwoman series is rated higher than the Joker and once again, the losers are deleting user reviews. Also I saw the first ep of Batwoman and perhaps it's not the worst thing in the world (id give it a 4/10), but there is no fucking way it's better than the Joker.

Meh, it can give you a decent snapshot idea of the quality of non-name brand movies

[Isitjustme?]

anyone that looks at rotten tomatoes for scores is a retard. Fucking Batwoman series is rated higher than the Joker and once again, the losers are deleting user reviews. Also I saw the first ep of Batwoman and perhaps it's not the worst thing in the world (id give it a 4/10), but there is no fucking way it's better than the Joker.

thanks for the heads up

[AaronY]

every "tough guy" i know melts down over rottentomatoes.com now whether its on FB or twitter lol. its hilarious. 70% is a good score but still they find reasons to complain and wallow in victimhood over it lol

[Texas_Ranger]

every "tough guy" i know melts down over rottentomatoes.com now whether its on FB or twitter lol. its hilarious. 70% is a good score but still they find reasons to complain and wallow in victimhood over it lol

70% is pretty good, but when stuff that is shit, is rated higher, then it looks stupid. Tell me with a straight face that the Ghostbusters remake is better than the Joker. Also the site changed their voting system just cause of Captain Marvel and has been deleting reviews since the Last Jedi. You don't have to be a ''tough guy'' to see that site is bullshit.

also no one is having a meltdown, i find this stuff pretty funny.

[DarrinS]

Lol

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/batwoman/s01

[Spurminator]

TV ratings on RT generally score higher than movies because the standard is lower. If you're bitching about a TV show getting a higher RT rating than a movie you like, you're probably also the type of loser who submits low ratings for movies and shows you've never seen, while simultaneously claiming that the User Rating reflects people's true feelings about the quality of that movie/show.

[spurraider21]

70% is pretty good, but when stuff that is shit, is rated higher, then it looks stupid. Tell me with a straight face that the Ghostbusters remake is better than the Joker. Also the site changed their voting system just cause of Captain Marvel and has been deleting reviews since the Last Jedi. You don't have to be a ''tough guy'' to see that site is bullshit.

also no one is having a meltdown, i find this stuff pretty funny.
can you blame them, given how that went down?

[Texas_Ranger]

can you blame them, given how that went down?

people have the right to vote. I am pretty sure no one would have downvoted the movie if Brie Larson didnt say it wasnt for white men (which is like 70% of the MCU fan base). So if she can be a bitch, people can downvote her movie. It was also a giant Marvel movie and even if 10K people did give it a 1, there still sould be a lot of peole that would put that movie in the 70+%. And a lot of people gave it a positive review just cause they were mad at the people that downvoted it, but no one deleted those ones. So they deleted more then 10K user votes and the movie is still at like 50% while 80% of the critics love it.
btw, I didn't downvote the movie, I went to the cinema and saw it for myself and I have to agree with the audience on this one. It was a mediocre movie on the lvl of IronMan2 so Id also give it a 5/10.
just for fun go to imdb and see the scores. There were 25K people that gave it a 1 and 42K people that gave it a 10. So if the 1's are unrealistic so are the 10's.

[spurraider21]

people have the right to vote. I am pretty sure no one would have downvoted the movie if Brie Larson didnt say it wasnt for white men (which is like 70% of the MCU fan base). So if she can be a bitch, people can downvote her movie. It was also a giant Marvel movie and even if 10K people did give it a 1, there still sould be a lot of peole that would put that movie in the 70+%. And a lot of people gave it a positive review just cause they were mad at the people that downvoted it, but no one deleted those ones. So they deleted more then 10K user votes and the movie is still at like 50% while 80% of the critics love it.
btw, I didn't downvote the movie, I went to the cinema and saw it for myself and I have to agree with the audience on this one. It was a mediocre movie on the lvl of IronMan2 so Id also give it a 5/10.
just for fun go to imdb and see the scores. There were 25K people that gave it a 1 and 42K people that gave it a 10. So if the 1's are unrealistic so are the 10's.
thats not what rotten tomatoes reviews are meant to measure

what if from now on users only review movies on rotten tomatoes based on, say, how attractive they find the lead actor and on no other criteria. is rotten tomatoes just supposed to honor that? no, its meant to be people's assessments of the film. when thousands of people who havent seen the movie vote one way because they're triggered at comments of the actress, i cant blame them for stepping in

[Texas_Ranger]

thats not what rotten tomatoes reviews are meant to measure

what if from now on users only review movies on rotten tomatoes based on, say, how attractive they find the lead actor and on no other criteria. is rotten tomatoes just supposed to honor that? no, its meant to be people's assessments of the film. when thousands of people who havent seen the movie vote one way because they're triggered at comments of the actress, i cant blame them for stepping in

all i am saying is that for every negative review the user gave there was almost 2 positive ones just to fight those that downvoted it. So should they delete the positive ones aswell? No, they should just leave it as it is.

[Spurminator]

all i am saying is that for every negative review the user gave there was almost 2 positive ones just to fight those that downvoted it. So should they delete the positive ones aswell? No, they should just leave it as it is.

If there was a 2:1 positive ratio then the user rating wouldn't be under 50%. Angry incels vote in droves because they disproportionately give a shit.

You've brought up Ghostbusters, Batwoman and Captain Marvel in the past 24 hours. It's pretty obvious where you sit.

[Texas_Ranger]

If there was a 2:1 positive ratio then the user rating wouldn't be under 50%. Angry incels vote in droves because they disproportionately give a shit.

You've brought up Ghostbusters, Batwoman and Captain Marvel in the past 24 hours. It's pretty obvious where you sit.

Yea i brought up 3 things that sucked. Its weird that everyone uses the word incel with those 3 movies and thinks, well its just cause u hate wahmen. But how come no one downvoted wonder woman and alita?

[Spurminator]

Yea i brought up 3 things that sucked. Its weird that everyone uses the word incel with those 3 movies and thinks, well its just cause u hate wahmen. But how come no one downvoted wonder woman and alita?

I didn't say anything about women. But Ghostbusters and Captain Marvel are 2/4 of the Mount Rushmore of Movies Incels Can't Stop Bitching About.

[Texas_Ranger]

I didn't say anything about women. But Ghostbusters and Captain Marvel are 2/4 of the Mount Rushmore of Movies Incels Can't Stop Bitching About.

yea, well i just said what i thought about rotten tomatoes, i dont really care about those 2 movies. If some people think they are good thats great, i won't tell people what to like or dislike. I just dont like it that people say u are an incel or a sexist or whatever if you didn't like Cpt Marvel.

[Xevious]

It just seems that there were way too many hints for that twist not to be true

SPOILERS

Seems like there are three options:

1. Eveything really happened except for certain delusions throughout. Him being locked up in Arkham just happens after the fact when he's caught. Arthur is the real Joker within this particular universe. I actually prefer this.

2. None of it happened. It was all the delusions/fantasies of some dude already locked up. I don't care for this, because why would they even include the Thomas/Bruce Wayne stuff at the end?

3. This character is the "real" Joker locked up in Arkham, but the story if Arthur Fleck is one of his delusions. Since Todd Phillips said they took inspiration from The Killing Joke, and Joker had said in that comic that he preferred his past be multiple choice, I have a feeling this is the ending Todd Phillips/Joaquin Phoenix intended.

[AaronY]

people have the right to vote.

Before even watching the movie? :lol

[Chucho]

I didn't say anything about women. But Ghostbusters and Captain Marvel are 2/4 of the Mount Rushmore of Movies Incels Can't Stop Bitching About.

What are the other two? Black 007 and Black Panther?

[Spurminator]

What are the other two? Black 007 and Black Panther?

Good question. I said 4 because of Mount Rushmore, but the only other one I can think of that compares to GB and CM is The Last Jedi.

[TimmyBuckets]

Just saw it. Fucking amazing.

[Texas_Ranger]

Before even watching the movie? :lol

on a corrupted site like Rotten Tomatoes, yea. If the critics can lie about reviews just so they can be in good eyes with the movie industry, then normal people can go and vote.
https://twitter.com/Dataracer117/status/1103524417190092800

also, if i am an Hotel owner and i go out and say that i don't want any white people at my hotel, should i get mad that people are giving me bad reviews, even if they didn't visit my hotel?
Brie Larson should have just said that she can't wait for everyone to see the film, but nope, she acted like a bitch and people got pissed.

[djohn2oo8]

SPOILERS

Seems like there are three options:

1. Eveything really happened except for certain delusions throughout. Him being locked up in Arkham just happens after the fact when he's caught. Arthur is the real Joker within this particular universe. I actually prefer this.

2. None of it happened. It was all the delusions/fantasies of some dude already locked up. I don't care for this, because why would they even include the Thomas/Bruce Wayne stuff at the end?

3. This character is the "real" Joker locked up in Arkham, but the story if Arthur Fleck is one of his delusions. Since Todd Phillips said they took inspiration from The Killing Joke, and Joker had said in that comic that he preferred his past be multiple choice, I have a feeling this is the ending Todd Phillips/Joaquin Phoenix intended.

***Spoilers below***


Definitely good scenarios. If indeed it happened as Arthur remembers,

then how the hell could Penny have been allowed to adopt him with her mental illness? And why would TW needed to know that or keep tabs on her?

[Xevious]

***Spoilers below***


Definitely good scenarios. If indeed it happened as Arthur remembers,

then how the hell could Penny have been allowed to adopt him with her mental illness? And why would TW needed to know that or keep tabs on her?
It was all to make Arthur further question his identity. There are enough clues to go either way. In the end, he doesn't know where he came from, the Joker persona is the only thing he identifies with.

[AaronY]

on a corrupted site like Rotten Tomatoes, yea. If the critics can lie about reviews just so they can be in good eyes with the movie industry, then normal people can go and vote.
https://twitter.com/Dataracer117/status/1103524417190092800

also, if i am an Hotel owner and i go out and say that i don't want any white people at my hotel, should i get mad that people are giving me bad reviews, even if they didn't visit my hotel?
Brie Larson should have just said that she can't wait for everyone to see the film, but nope, she acted like a bitch and people got pissed.
What if you saw the movie and liked it? You'd have to lie about it then right. Don't want nobody calling you a libtard cuck

[Texas_Ranger]

What if you saw the movie and liked it? You'd have to lie about it then right. Don't want nobody calling you a libtard cuck

Sorry man, i am not from US, so i kinda dont care for your politics. To me this whole right vs left is funny.
But yea id definitely wouldn't lie about a movie score cause everyone has their own taste.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Sorry man, i am not from US, so i kinda dont care for your politics. To me this whole right vs left is funny.
But yea id definitely wouldn't lie about a movie score cause everyone has their own taste.
:lol funny how everyone here who parrots conservative talking points ad nauseam are also always insisting that they don’t support either side.

[Texas_Ranger]

top critis on Rotten Tomatores have it at 44%... who the fuck are this so called ''top'' critics. All of this fuckers need to be called ''retard'' critics.

[Spurminator]

top critis on Rotten Tomatores have it at 44%... who the fuck are this so called ''top'' critics. All of this fuckers need to be called ''retard'' critics.

You're still getting emotional over a scoring system you obviously don't understand.

[Spurminator]

I saw it. It was fine. If I reviewed movies for a living I'd give it a positive score. But I think reasonable people can dislike it too. That's the thing about art.

Some people attach far too much of their self-validation to other people's opinions of stuff they like (or dislike).

[Texas_Ranger]

You're still getting emotional over a scoring system you obviously don't understand.

is it normal that just 44% of the TOP critics think this movie is better than average?

[Spurminator]

is it normal that just 44% of the TOP critics think this movie is better than average?

That number does not seem unusual or irrational to me. I can easily accept that a majority of film critics might not have an overall positive impression of it. There are movies that I like that have an even lower RT critic score. It has no impact on my feelings about those films, and it certainly doesn't make me angry or reduce my self-worth.

Have you seen it?

[Texas_Ranger]

That number does not seem unusual or irrational to me. I can easily accept that a majority of film critics might not have an overall positive impression of it. There are movies that I like that have an even lower RT critic score. It has no impact on my feelings about those films, and it certainly doesn't make me angry or reduce my self-worth.

Have you seen it?

i know there are movies that somehow the critics dont like, but i have a problem when in their reviews they are not really talking bad about the movie, but about the world today.

and yea, I saw it twice. It's not the best thing ever and I am not one of the guys that would give it 10 or even a 9, but still it's one of the best movies i saw this year, if not the best. The movie would also be just as good if it was not connected to the DC universe. So idk, I guess this time I'll just have to agree with the audience which likes it.

[DAF86]

Just saw it. Great movie. Just wished I had seen/read less about it before going to watch it. I was expecting many of the twists before they happened from reading all the suppossed "non-spoiler" reviews.

I feel like if I had watched the movie without knowing anything at all about it, it would have blown my mind.

[DAF86]

***Spoilers below***


Definitely good scenarios. If indeed it happened as Arthur remembers,

then how the hell could Penny have been allowed to adopt him with her mental illness? And why would TW needed to know that or keep tabs on her?

The theory I choose to believe: Arthur is really Thomas Wayne's son.

Penny getting locked up in Arkham and the whole adoption thing (including "official" papers) is just Wayne using his power in his benefit to clear his name.

Penny wasn't allowed to adopt anyone, she had a child. And that's why Thomas brings up the suppossed adoption (he shouldn't have known about), It's the story he created.

After Arthur killed his mother you can see a photo of young Penny in which Thomas wrote "I still love your smile", hinting that there was indeed a story between the two.

[DAF86]

What I don't get is why so many people are seeing this as a "right-wing" flick when the only way the movie could make its left-wing ideas any more clear was by having the Joker wear a Karl Marx t-shirt. :lol

Gun control, lack of social funding, rich people and their retarded "meritocracy" speech. How much more obvious do you want it? :lol

[140]

What I don't get is why so many people are seeing this as a "right-wing" flick when the only way the movie could make its left-wing ideas any more clear was by having the Joker wear a Karl Marx t-shirt. :lol

Gun control, lack of social funding, rich people and their retarded "meritocracy" speech. How much more obvious do you want it? :lol
Yeah, it's fucking retarded :lol murikans love to insert their shitty politics into everything though, so it doesn't surprise me tbh. Movie was great imho

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Alright real question for those qualified to answer honestly

Is this movie deserving of the praise it's getting if you've already seen and are familiar with Taxi Driver and King of Comedy?

It seems to be getting a 8-10/10 from people from a younger demo and more critical reviews from older reviewers. What would the ranking be if you subtract the presumably huge number of (young millennial) people that are lying when they say they're familiar with the scorsese movies

[Texas_Ranger]

Alright real question for those qualified to answer honestly

Is this movie deserving of the praise it's getting if you've already seen and are familiar with Taxi Driver and King of Comedy?

It seems to be getting a 8-10/10 from people from a younger demo and more critical reviews from older reviewers. What would the ranking be if you subtract the presumably huge number of (young millennial) people that are lying when they say they're familiar with the scorsese movies

it does deserve the praise just cause this year there weren't really any great movies, so perhaps just cause of that, it stands out. In my eyes it's not as good as Taxi Driver, but i'd say it's just as good as King of Comedy if not even a little better. I also think it's for everyone, not just young people. I'd also wouldn't watch any reviews, just go out and check it for yourself. Of course some people won't like it, but I am pretty sure like 90% of the people that saw it liked it. I went with 5 friends and everyone was happy with it and our age range was from 20-40.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

it does deserve the praise just cause this year there weren't really any great movies, so perhaps just cause of that, it stands out. In my eyes it's not as good as Taxi Driver, but i'd say it's just as good as King of Comedy if not even a little better. I also think it's for everyone, not just young people. I'd also wouldn't watch any reviews, just go out and check it for yourself. Of course some people won't like it, but I am pretty sure like 90% of the people that saw it liked it. I went with 5 friends and everyone was happy with it and our age range was from 20-40.

Movie reviews and fan reactions are more superlative now than ever. I'll see it eventually for sure.

[DAF86]

Alright real question for those qualified to answer honestly

Is this movie deserving of the praise it's getting if you've already seen and are familiar with Taxi Driver and King of Comedy?

It seems to be getting a 8-10/10 from people from a younger demo and more critical reviews from older reviewers. What would the ranking be if you subtract the presumably huge number of (young millennial) people that are lying when they say they're familiar with the scorsese movies

It is a great movie. The only ones that are giving it bad reviews are dumbfucks that for some reason think this is an alt-right movie. Pretty reminescent of the idiots that thought that Columbine was Marilyn Manson's fault.

Word of advise: stop reading anything about the movie untill you go and see it.

[Xevious]

Alright real question for those qualified to answer honestly

Is this movie deserving of the praise it's getting if you've already seen and are familiar with Taxi Driver and King of Comedy?

It seems to be getting a 8-10/10 from people from a younger demo and more critical reviews from older reviewers. What would the ranking be if you subtract the presumably huge number of (young millennial) people that are lying when they say they're familiar with the scorsese movies
Honestly It's been so long since I've seen either movie that I'd have to watch them again to do a fair comparison. What I do remember is that neither movie really stuck with me the way Joker has. I left the threatre in almost a trance and I still find myself thinking about it every now and then. It's worthy of the praise it's getting. Most of the criticisms I see are politically driven, people saying that it's just a Scorsese ripoff, or I've also seen some comic book purists saying that this isn't anything like THE Joker. Even if this isn't your type of movie, you have to appreciate Phoenix' acting, the score, directing, etc. It's just an impressive film IMO.

[01Snake]

I saw it last night and wasn't real impressed with it. Great acting but just got a little tiring watching it until the last 15 minutes.

[FrostKing]

I saw it last night and wasn't real impressed with it. Great acting but just got a little tiring watching it until the last 15 minutes.
It was approaching this point with me but ended strong

Overall a solid film. No complaints. A sequel is must see status.

[Pelicans78]

I loved the movie. It was fantastic.

[Reck]

DC trying to see how bad they can get apparently


This is hilarious


The trailer looks promising. Joaquin Phoenix is such a freaky looking creep. Perfect casting.


If anyone can match Ledger's Joker..it's Phoenix.

He seems to specialize on psychotic and maniacal characters and does them well.

Actually this movie promises greatness. We'll get to see the Joker before he was the Joker so it will be interesting to see him descent into the madness we know.


This movie will be a cult classic.

All the doubters in the first 3 pages. :lol

Even I understimated this movie. Not a cult classic at all. It's a cultural phenomenon.

Joker now stands alone as the most profitable comic book movie in history.

[AaronY]

Haven't seen it yet. Thought it looked bad based on previews/news tbh. I will admit I am pretty biased against Joaquin Phoenix based on that whole super-tedious Andy Kaufman annoying homeless guy shtick he did for two years

[AaronY]

I think he also tried to be a real bad rapper during that homeless guy shtick too iirc

[lefty]

Meh average movie tbh

[TDMVPDPOY]

not a bad movie man...

love it how ppl thinks he has a mental disorder, but it can apply to anyone who doesnt have one...

you can always put on a fake laughing/smiling in front of everyone, but deep down inside do they know ur hurting or suffering from something?...no...

[djohn2oo8]

Phoenix just won a golden Globe

[DAF86]

Meh average movie tbh

Not enough big explosions and CGI fights for my man lefty.

[lefty]

Not enough big explosions and CGI fights for my man lefty. (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20689)
Nah I was kidding, I actually liked it

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZionistReport/status/1224417414311530504

[ChumpDumper]

Hollywood power player David Schwimmer!

[tlongII]

This movie is crap.

[FrostKing]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ZionistReport/status/1224417414311530504
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