Trump cancels scheduled pay raises for nearly 2 million Americans

[RandomGuy]

Just in time for the midterm elections, Donald Trump has some bad news for 1.8 million Americans: he wants to scrap the pay raise they were scheduled to receive.


President Donald Trump announced Thursday that he was canceling pay raises for most federal employees that had been set to go into effect in January, citing government budget concerns.

In a letter to House and Senate leaders, Trump wrote that he’d decided “across-the-board” pay raises as well as locality pay raises for civilian federal workers in 2019 would be frozen.

The president justified the move by arguing, “We must maintain efforts to put our nation on a fiscally sustainable course"

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-cancels-scheduled-pay-raises-nearly-2-million-americans
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Looking like 2019 is another trillion dollar+ deficit

[Winehole23]

antagonize federal workers, hamstring their unions, freeze their pay, cut departmental budgets -- and then complain that government is broken.

honestly, I see no reason why that won't work.

[Blake]

How else will the wall get funded?

[LkrFan]

1035271810315636737

[Reck]

Chris your hot take?

[Blake]

Chris your hot take?

Trump

[RandomGuy]

antagonize federal workers, hamstring their unions, freeze their pay, cut departmental budgets -- and then complain that government is broken.

honestly, I see no reason why that won't work.

It is scary brilliant and simple. Republicans can't be trusted with the keys. They just suck at governing.

[Incel]

Waste of money, smart move by DJT :tu Added bonus of crying triggered libs :tu

[Isitjustme?]

Surprised he announced this before midterms

[Fabbs]

Know lots of Fed workers.

Get overpaid to jerk off.

If anything efficiency should be enforced.

[Reck]

Know lots of Fed workers.

Get overpaid to jerk off.

If anything efficiency should be enforced.

Looks like we got our first semen shield casualty.

[leemajors]

Know lots of Fed workers.

Get overpaid to jerk off.

If anything efficiency should be enforced.

How about Senators and Congressmen?

[Fabbs]

How about Senators and Congressmen?
Extremely overpaid jerk offs.

[Fabbs]

Looks like we got our first semen shield casualty.
Looks like someone with a jerk off job weighs in.

[Pavlov]

Extremely overpaid jerk offs.President's staff?

[boutons_deux]

Apparently, You People have not been listening to, watching the oligarchy/Repugs these past 40 years.

The propaganda has been, still is that GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM. The message has been droning on relentlessly.

"Welfare Queens in Cadillacs)

Degrading, reducing govt until it can be drowned in a bath tub, etc, etc.

Busting govt (and all unions) (done),

crippling USPS (done),

reducing govt employee rights and salaries (done),

defunding govt (except MIC) into dysfuntionality (done),

intentionally MISgoverning (done) to screw employees, patients, women, blacks, brown, the poor, the environment, to discourage govt professionals into quitting to be replaced by Repug political incomeptent hacks.

destroying the social/economic safety net For The People (done)

so that govt prioritizes enriching, protecting, enabling the oligarchy (done)

America is fucked and unfuckable (done)

so Trash/Repug base LOVES the move to screw govt employees, since Trash's base is mostly economically precarious, while govt employees have good jobs, job security, retirement/saving plans, so Trash's base is thrilled to fuck over govt employees, pull down to the level of Trash's cult

[Winehole23]

so much for increased revenue paying for tax cuts and making us all richer

[boutons_deux]

so much for increased revenue paying for tax cuts and making us all richer

they lie, we cry

[Chris]

Chris your hot take?

non-issue

[Reck]

non-issue

Fucking over your own is a non issue to you? :lol

[Fabbs]

so much for increased revenue paying for tax cuts and making us all richer
A lot of gov't workers exert such little energy in their positions they can get a 2nd job and do some real earning.

[Reck]

non-issue

https://twitter.com/votevets/status/1035210752406290432

Chris doesn't care about our veterans.

[benefactor]

so much for increased revenue paying for tax cuts and making us all richer

[Fabbs]

Chris doesn't care about our veterans.
:cry poor Federally employed salaried veterans. :cry
Had to cancel their 3rd week of vacation.

[Fabbs]

Federal Employees Earn 50% More Than The Private Workforce
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/moneytips/federal-employees-earn-50_b_8855508.html

and:
In 2014, the average federal employee salary was $84,153, approximately 50% more than the average private sector worker earned. This discrepancy increases to 78% when benefits are included. The average federal worker costs the government (aka taxpayers) $119,934.

[Chris]

Fabbs

[Reck]

:cry poor Federally employed salaried veterans. :cry
Had to cancel their 3rd week of vacation.

Taking a vacation is the least they can do after serving their country for most of their life, Faggs.

They fought so you can be cheated out of buying a piece of shit electronic device for 400 when when they went for 100.

[Fabbs]

Taking a vacation is the least they can do after serving their country for most of their life, Faggs.

They fought so you can be cheated out of buying a piece of shit electronic device for 400 when when they went for 100.
Weaksause with another of your lame Straws.

Gonna address this or keep dancing?:

Federal Employees Earn 50% More Than The Private Workforce
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/moneytips/federal-employees-earn-50_b_8855508.html

and:
In 2014, the average federal employee salary was $84,153, approximately 50% more than the average private sector worker earned. This discrepancy increases to 78% when benefits are included. The average federal worker costs the government (aka taxpayers) $119,934.

[boutons_deux]

Federal Employees Earn 50% More Than The Private Workforce
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/moneytips/federal-employees-earn-50_b_8855508.html

and:
In 2014, the average federal employee salary was $84,153, approximately 50% more than the average private sector worker earned. This discrepancy increases to 78% when benefits are included. The average federal worker costs the government (aka taxpayers) $119,934.

is there a difference in average credentials? like college educated govt employee, other credentials versus low-ed, uncredentialed private employee?

for 40+ years, the oligarchy has been screwing workers income down, real household incomes have been basically flat, so now the oligarchy target is to screw govt employees, so they are as stressed, as precarious financially as oligarchy-screwed private employees

Do you have ANY fucking idea of what's been going on?

[Blake]

Fabbs

"...help me "

[Spurminator]

How much more than the average private workforce worker do the top recipients of the $1.5 trillion tax break earn?

[clambake]

How much more than the average private workforce worker do the top recipients of the $1.5 trillion tax break earn?

fuck you with your math....and probably science.

[AaronY]

Weaksause with another of your lame Straws.

Gonna address this or keep dancing?:


How much more than the average private workforce worker do the top recipients of the $1.5 trillion tax break earn?

[Spurminator]

I hate to be Captain Obvious here but the fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals, economically speaking, seems to be the fight over who should have to work harder to earn money: the wealthy, or the rest.

[boutons_deux]

I hate to be Captain Obvious here but the fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals, economically speaking, seems to be the fight over who should have to work harder to earn money: the wealthy, or the rest.

the controlling wealthy, the oligarchy, don't "work".

Their income is mostly unearned from stocks, bonds, investments, financial casino, rents, interest income, while avoiding and evading taxes

[DarrinS]

I’m good. My fellow citizens don’t pay me with their taxes.

[DarrinS]

And, I have to plan my own retirement. I can’t get a check from my fellow citizens’ taxes until I die.

[AaronY]

And, I have to plan my own retirement. I can’t get a check from my fellow citizens’ taxes until I die.
Look at Darrin going around lecturing people on personal responsibility like this is the Republican party of 1985..so adorable!

I just wanna pinch you on your cheeks!

[Trainwreck2100]

So we're gonna just ignore paving responsibility when he gave away 1 trillion dollars last year

[pgardn]

And, I have to plan my own retirement. I can’t get a check from my fellow citizens’ taxes until I die.

Bet you were pissed the military federal employees still get their raises and their pensions.
You just failed to mention it.

And same here your above, but I gained wealth from government infrastructure. I can get to work on roads and bridges, you just put your Superman suit on a fly everywhere. Good for you. Government never helped you in any way, you could become rich in Somalia.

[Spurtacular]

:cry Muh govt. jobs :cry

:lmao OP

[Chris]

Bet you were pissed the military federal employees still get their raises and their pensions.
You just failed to mention it.

And same here your above, but I gained wealth from government infrastructure. I can get to work on roads and bridges, you just put your Superman suit on a fly everywhere. Good for you. Government never helped you in any way, you could become rich in Somalia.

Are you saying Somalia is a shithole country?

[hater]

Its sad to see this as we gave 1.5 trilionto bilkionaires and 1 trillion to make bombs to be used on children overseas

Thats 2.5 trillion right there

Byt federal orkers will be fine and will eventualky get paid. I have lots of family in the federal workforce and they are not worried one bit

[boutons_deux]

Just Hours After Ordering Pay Cut for Millions of Public Workers, Trump Proposes $100 Billion Gift to Richest 1%
Trump wants to send another kiss to the rich—

unilaterally, without any approval from Congress.

He ignores the law,

governs for the top one percent, and

doesn't give a hoot about the rest of us."

he is considering a regressive and possibly illegal (https://twitter.com/taxjusticewonk/status/1035279880605315074) plan to use his executive power to hand the rich another $100 billion in tax cuts by indexing capital gains to inflation.

for Trump and the Republican Party, concerns for "fiscal sustainability" are quickly dropped when it comes time to deliver major gifts to the rich (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/12/22/corporations-are-literally-going-wild-says-trump-he-signs-tax-bill-most-americans), Wall Street (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/04/18/workers-see-crumbs-biggest-wall-street-banks-have-already-pocketed-25-billion-trump), and the Pentagon (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/08/02/40-senate-democrats-join-gop-send-717-billion-military-spending-bill-trumps-desk).

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) wrote that Trump is once again "making it clear he has no interest in supporting working people."
"Trump himself has pocketed millions over the years grifting off of taxpayers, but now he wants to make it harder for workers to get ahead," Sanders added.

"Trump and his Republican friends in Congress didn't have any problem finding $1.5 trillion in tax giveaways for the wealthiest people and

hugely profitable corporations,

but suddenly they don't have enough money to pay fair salaries to hardworking public servants."

86 percent of the benefits of this change in tax policy would go to the top one percent (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/30/us/politics/trump-tax-cuts-rich.html).


https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/08/31/just-hours-after-ordering-pay-cut-millions-public-workers-trump-proposes-100-billion?cd-origin=rss

[in2deep]

Yeah thats not a good look if we are handing out trillions to milionaires and military

[Isitjustme?]

Weaksause with another of your lame Straws.

Gonna address this or keep dancing?:
Oh no 50% more than the average worker?!? That group sounds real privileged! Last thing they need is a handout!
1035268686452420608

[pgardn]

Are you saying Somalia is a shithole country?

No.

Im saying Darrin is obviously incredibly resourceful in countries that have no government.

Are you trying to say Trump is attempting to turn the US into a shithole country?

[DMC]

We all know government employees work their asses off. That's why it only takes 6 months to get a form 4 through when it should take a few days.

[Winehole23]

where's my 4,000 smackers? why is the deficit bigger?

[rmt]

We all know government employees work their asses off. That's why it only takes 6 months to get a form 4 through when it should take a few days.

Next time you go to the Post Office, please pay attention to how much tape they use to tape on an address label - boggled my mind - like 3 times what was needed - all I thought was if she does that for every customer, all day long, for 30 years ....

[Pavlov]

Next time you go to the Post Office, please pay attention to how much tape they use to tape on an address label - boggled my mind - like 3 times what was needed - all I thought was if she does that for every customer, all day long, for 30 years ....:lmao you're a government employee

[AaronY]

Stupid Gov't!

Using too much tape at the post office! Goddamm I hate em so much!1!!1

[ElNono]

Stupid Gov't!

Using too much tape at the post office! Goddamm I hate em so much!1!!1

True if huge

[baseline bum]

:lmao you're a government employee

Doubtful, probably Wild Cobra's troll seeing the join date.

[rmt]

:lmao you're a government employee

I am a not a FEDERAL government employee - local govt that has to balance their budget. For those retiring soon, their pensions are golden - lots have changed since to bring salaries/pensions under control (such as the years after 2011 - no COLA). But I knew what would happen staying home to raise kids - no regrets - I'd do it all over again.

[rmt]

Doubtful, probably Wild Cobra's troll seeing the join date.

Is his join date close to mine? So you mean I'm really WC? If so, that's some alter ego and a vivid imagination.

Actually, it was probably frustration from the Mavs' series that drove me to this board - egad, what a poorly officiated series that was - but what goes around, comes around (in the Finals :-)

[dabom]

I am a not a FEDERAL government employee - local govt that has to balance their budget. For those retiring soon, their pensions are golden - lots have changed since to bring salaries/pensions under control (such as the years after 2011 - no COLA). But I knew what would happen staying home to raise kids - no regrets - I'd do it all over again.

He didn't say Federal you dumb fuck.:lmao

[rmt]

He didn't say Federal you dumb fuck.:lmao

We were talking about a Post Office employee who is a federal employee - this thread is about federal employees.

[dabom]

We were talking about a Post Office employee who is a federal employee - this thread is about federal employees.

And I'm still correct you dumb fuck. :lmao

[dabom]

You know what really grinds my gears? Foreign asian teachers who kids can't discern shit from. I'm going to blame our public education failures on those people.:lmao

[AaronY]

True if huge
oh indubitably. thats why if i get in office i will pass the postal tape responsibility act of 2019. no more wasting tax payer $$!!

[AaronY]

then all the boxes will be falling open and shit and hell be complaining about that lol

[rmt]

oh indubitably. thats why if i get in office i will pass the postal tape responsibility act of 2019. no more wasting tax payer $$!!

You should help out with those HEB commercials :-)

[rmt]

then all the boxes will be falling open and shit and hell be complaining about that lol

I'm talking address labels - not securing boxes.

[AaronY]

lmao

[Ennis Del Mar]

I'm talking address labels - not securing boxes.
:lmao Republicans pay for their sexual harrassment settlements with taxpayer funds, and you don’t say shit. But extra tape on a shipping label is an INEXCUSABLE WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY.

[rmt]

:lmao Republicans pay for their sexual harrassment settlements with taxpayer funds, and you don’t say shit. But extra tape on a shipping label is an INEXCUSABLE WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY.

Gosh, you people are so uptight - it was just a simple comment. If we're talking tape on a long weekend, things aren't bad at all. Relax.

[dabom]

Gosh, you people are so uptight - it was just a simple comment. If we're talking tape on a long weekend, things aren't bad at all. Relax.

Gets upset over tape use at one location and then downplays said gravity. :lmao

[rmt]

I got more response about tape than Spurs' Homer's proof that Trump should be impeached (sans WH) - just saying.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao Republicans pay for their sexual harrassment settlements with taxpayer funds, and you don’t say shit. But extra tape on a shipping label is an INEXCUSABLE WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY.

The guy who goes around posting gay porn has an opinion :lmao

[dabom]

I got more response about tape than Spurs' Homer's proof that Trump should be impeached (sans WH) - just saying.

When you defend something so stupid, you will get made fun of. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

When you defend something so stupid, you will get made fun of. :lmao

Speaking of, what is your little pink friend up to these days? :lmao

[baseline bum]

She is the stupidest piece of shit on a site that has tsa spurt and ducks.

Add in her racism, and she is the worst overall. Ducks is smarter in comparison.

She is Wild Cobras troll most likely

[Spurtacular]

She is the stupidest piece of shit on a site that has tsa spurt and ducks.

Add in her racism, and she is the worst overall. Ducks is smarter in comparison.

Are you under the allusion that you're showing yourself to be above the top twenty percentile of intelligent posters here?

SMFH: These losers and the stones they throw.

:lmao

[dabom]

Speaking of, what is your little pink friend up to these days? :lmao

What happened to we're the same person shtick? :lol

[rmt]

She is Wild Cobras troll most likely

I don't believe I've ever specifically addressed anything to WC.

[rmt]

When you defend something so stupid, you will get made fun of. :lmao

You mean criticize and being criticized for the criticism. I don't mind being made fun of - we need some levity - way too intense around here. Time for Federer.

[Ennis Del Mar]

Gosh, you people are so uptight - it was just a simple comment. If we're talking tape on a long weekend, things aren't bad at all. Relax.
:lmao backtracking when your bullshit gets shoved back in your face.

[Ennis Del Mar]

The guy who goes around posting gay porn has an opinion :lmao
:lmao did it get your little weenis hard? Did that scare you?

[Spurtacular]

What happened to we're the same person shtick? :lol

Turned out you were Dumber to his Dumb. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

:lmao did it get your little weenis hard? Did that scare you?

Nope on both counts. Just confirmed you're a raging faggot. :lmao

[Nivek_ogre]

Of course trump doesn't care about their pay. They're not millionaires.

[boutons_deux]

Of course trump doesn't care about their pay. They're not millionaires.

... but Trash's base does. The Repugs/oligarchy have been lying for 45 years that all govt (for the people) is The Problem, must be destroyed and privatized.

Govt employees with secure, well paid jobs and benefits must be punished, pulled down to the level of all the low-ed, low-paid assholes in Trash's base.

[Ennis Del Mar]

Nope on both counts. Just confirmed you're a raging faggot. :lmao
https://media.giphy.com/media/13LRZ4W843DhpS/200w.gif

[Spurtacular]

^^^

Posting more homoerotic cinematography. Sad.

[Ennis Del Mar]

^^^

Getting so aroused by homoerotic cinematography that he can’t stop commenting about it. Sad.

[Spurtacular]

jesus Christ. First, I actually don’t care what people on an anonymous fan site think. You should try that.

Second, I’m not on here parroting morons because I seek their approval, because I have no friends in the outside world. You should definitely try that.

Third, spell check is part of every cell service, use it.

Fourth, saying stupid shit and making assertions based upon debunked lies, then trying to play it off when pressed to answe does not make you an edgy intellectual. It makes you look stupid. And you should definitely try that

:lmao Loser raging hard.

[Spurtacular]

Here’s the part you never ever get. Telling a dumb fuck they’re a dumb fuck, requires no anger. I get that the people that think for you give you cute little buzzwords to deflect the hurt of understanding you’re a dumb fuck. but your stupidity, and raging homosexual panic, is what makes your unwillingness to shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about pitiful, not maddening.

Now quit proving what a dumb fuck you are every fucking day of your pitiful existence

:lmao More loser raging.
:lmao Keep going, bruh.

https://media.giphy.com/media/1pw5Hn77ylYxW/giphy.gif

[Pavlov]

Are you under the allusion that you're showing yourself to be above the top twenty percentile of intelligent posters here?

SMFH: These losers and the stones they throw.

:lmaolol "above the top twenty percentile of intelligent posters"

[dabom]

lol "above the top twenty percentile of intelligent posters"

:lol

[RandomGuy]

Are you under the allusion that you're showing yourself to be above the top twenty percentile of intelligent posters here?

SMFH: These losers and the stones they throw.

:lmao


allusion
noun al·lu·sion \ ə-ˈlü-zhən \

an implied or indirect reference especially in literature


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/allusion?src=search-dict-hed


Dunning-Kruger poster boy :lmao

You must be under the allusion that you are part of the twenty percent of public companies.
.

[DMC]

Dunning-Kruger isn't just about low intelligence. It's also about high intelligence. Both subsets tested out as not being aware of something, only the lower IQ group overrated themselves while the upper IQ group overrated others. Both suffer from basically the same effect. Perhaps those who misuse the term should consider which group they belong to.

[Spurtacular]

Dunning-Kruger isn't just about low intelligence. It's also about high intelligence. Both subsets tested out as not being aware of something, only the lower IQ group overrated themselves while the upper IQ group overrated others. Both suffer from basically the same effect. Perhaps those who misuse the term should consider which group they belong to.

:lol And give up their meme? Never!

[Winehole23]

:lol And give up their meme? Never!it's optional, dummy.

it ain't that funny.

[AaronY]

Dunning-Kruger isn't just about low intelligence. It's also about high intelligence. Both subsets tested out as not being aware of something, only the lower IQ group overrated themselves while the upper IQ group overrated others. Both suffer from basically the same effect. Perhaps those who misuse the term should consider which group they belong to.
Sounds just like what someone with Dunning Kruger would say tbh

[AaronY]

My take on the Dunning-Kruger is that I hope its related to the Kruger industrial smoothing from Seinfeld haha. Mema det guy he was a funny plot line

me smart. me not dunning nor kruger

[DMC]

Sounds just like what someone with Dunning Kruger would say tbh

Pretty sure I'm right.

[AaronY]

Pretty sure I'm right.
You are lol. I was being a goofball

[DMC]

You are lol. I was being a goofball

Same here with the "pretty sure I'm right". That defines the lower end of the spectrum lol