View Full Version : Trump cancels scheduled pay raises for nearly 2 million Americans
RandomGuy
08-30-2018, 03:33 PM
Just in time for the midterm elections, Donald Trump has some bad news for 1.8 million Americans: he wants to scrap the pay raise they were scheduled to receive.
President Donald Trump announced Thursday that he was canceling pay raises for most federal employees that had been set to go into effect in January, citing government budget concerns.
In a letter to House and Senate leaders, Trump wrote that he’d decided “across-the-board” pay raises as well as locality pay raises for civilian federal workers in 2019 would be frozen.
The president justified the move by arguing, “We must maintain efforts to put our nation on a fiscally sustainable course"
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-cancels-scheduled-pay-raises-nearly-2-million-americans
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Looking like 2019 is another trillion dollar+ deficit
Winehole23
08-30-2018, 03:47 PM
antagonize federal workers, hamstring their unions, freeze their pay, cut departmental budgets -- and then complain that government is broken.
honestly, I see no reason why that won't work.
Blake
08-30-2018, 04:08 PM
How else will the wall get funded?
LkrFan
08-30-2018, 04:10 PM
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Blake
08-30-2018, 04:25 PM
Chris your hot take?
Trump
RandomGuy
08-30-2018, 04:30 PM
antagonize federal workers, hamstring their unions, freeze their pay, cut departmental budgets -- and then complain that government is broken.
honestly, I see no reason why that won't work.
It is scary brilliant and simple. Republicans can't be trusted with the keys. They just suck at governing.
Incel
08-30-2018, 04:30 PM
Waste of money, smart move by DJT :tu Added bonus of crying triggered libs :tu
Isitjustme?
08-30-2018, 04:31 PM
Surprised he announced this before midterms
Fabbs
08-30-2018, 04:47 PM
Know lots of Fed workers.
Get overpaid to jerk off.
If anything efficiency should be enforced.
Know lots of Fed workers.
Get overpaid to jerk off.
If anything efficiency should be enforced.
Looks like we got our first semen shield casualty.
leemajors
08-30-2018, 04:59 PM
Know lots of Fed workers.
Get overpaid to jerk off.
If anything efficiency should be enforced.
How about Senators and Congressmen?
Fabbs
08-30-2018, 05:01 PM
How about Senators and Congressmen?
Extremely overpaid jerk offs.
Fabbs
08-30-2018, 05:02 PM
Looks like we got our first semen shield casualty.
Looks like someone with a jerk off job weighs in.
Pavlov
08-30-2018, 05:02 PM
Extremely overpaid jerk offs.President's staff?
boutons_deux
08-30-2018, 05:07 PM
Apparently, You People have not been listening to, watching the oligarchy/Repugs these past 40 years.
The propaganda has been, still is that GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM. The message has been droning on relentlessly.
"Welfare Queens in Cadillacs)
Degrading, reducing govt until it can be drowned in a bath tub, etc, etc.
Busting govt (and all unions) (done),
crippling USPS (done),
reducing govt employee rights and salaries (done),
defunding govt (except MIC) into dysfuntionality (done),
intentionally MISgoverning (done) to screw employees, patients, women, blacks, brown, the poor, the environment, to discourage govt professionals into quitting to be replaced by Repug political incomeptent hacks.
destroying the social/economic safety net For The People (done)
so that govt prioritizes enriching, protecting, enabling the oligarchy (done)
America is fucked and unfuckable (done)
so Trash/Repug base LOVES the move to screw govt employees, since Trash's base is mostly economically precarious, while govt employees have good jobs, job security, retirement/saving plans, so Trash's base is thrilled to fuck over govt employees, pull down to the level of Trash's cult
Winehole23
08-30-2018, 05:16 PM
so much for increased revenue paying for tax cuts and making us all richer
boutons_deux
08-30-2018, 05:31 PM
so much for increased revenue paying for tax cuts and making us all richer
they lie, we cry
Chris
08-30-2018, 05:31 PM
Chris your hot take?
non-issue
non-issue
Fucking over your own is a non issue to you? :lol
Fabbs
08-30-2018, 05:38 PM
so much for increased revenue paying for tax cuts and making us all richer
A lot of gov't workers exert such little energy in their positions they can get a 2nd job and do some real earning.
non-issue
https://twitter.com/votevets/status/1035210752406290432
Chris doesn't care about our veterans.
benefactor
08-30-2018, 05:54 PM
so much for increased revenue paying for tax cuts and making us all richer
Fabbs
08-30-2018, 06:36 PM
Chris doesn't care about our veterans.
:cry poor Federally employed salaried veterans. :cry
Had to cancel their 3rd week of vacation.
Fabbs
08-30-2018, 06:40 PM
Federal Employees Earn 50% More Than The Private Workforce
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/moneytips/federal-employees-earn-50_b_8855508.html
and:
In 2014, the average federal employee salary was $84,153, approximately 50% more than the average private sector worker earned. This discrepancy increases to 78% when benefits are included. The average federal worker costs the government (aka taxpayers) $119,934.
Chris
08-30-2018, 06:41 PM
Fabbs
:cry poor Federally employed salaried veterans. :cry
Had to cancel their 3rd week of vacation.
Taking a vacation is the least they can do after serving their country for most of their life, Faggs.
They fought so you can be cheated out of buying a piece of shit electronic device for 400 when when they went for 100.
Fabbs
08-30-2018, 07:39 PM
Taking a vacation is the least they can do after serving their country for most of their life, Faggs.
They fought so you can be cheated out of buying a piece of shit electronic device for 400 when when they went for 100.
Weaksause with another of your lame Straws.
Gonna address this or keep dancing?:
Federal Employees Earn 50% More Than The Private Workforce
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/moneytips/federal-employees-earn-50_b_8855508.html
and:
In 2014, the average federal employee salary was $84,153, approximately 50% more than the average private sector worker earned. This discrepancy increases to 78% when benefits are included. The average federal worker costs the government (aka taxpayers) $119,934.
boutons_deux
08-30-2018, 07:46 PM
Federal Employees Earn 50% More Than The Private Workforce
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/moneytips/federal-employees-earn-50_b_8855508.html
and:
In 2014, the average federal employee salary was $84,153, approximately 50% more than the average private sector worker earned. This discrepancy increases to 78% when benefits are included. The average federal worker costs the government (aka taxpayers) $119,934.
is there a difference in average credentials? like college educated govt employee, other credentials versus low-ed, uncredentialed private employee?
for 40+ years, the oligarchy has been screwing workers income down, real household incomes have been basically flat, so now the oligarchy target is to screw govt employees, so they are as stressed, as precarious financially as oligarchy-screwed private employees
Do you have ANY fucking idea of what's been going on?
Blake
08-30-2018, 08:00 PM
Fabbs
"...help me "
Spurminator
08-30-2018, 08:03 PM
How much more than the average private workforce worker do the top recipients of the $1.5 trillion tax break earn?
clambake
08-30-2018, 08:07 PM
How much more than the average private workforce worker do the top recipients of the $1.5 trillion tax break earn?
fuck you with your math....and probably science.
AaronY
08-30-2018, 09:10 PM
Weaksause with another of your lame Straws.
Gonna address this or keep dancing?:
How much more than the average private workforce worker do the top recipients of the $1.5 trillion tax break earn?
Spurminator
08-30-2018, 09:19 PM
I hate to be Captain Obvious here but the fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals, economically speaking, seems to be the fight over who should have to work harder to earn money: the wealthy, or the rest.
boutons_deux
08-30-2018, 10:00 PM
I hate to be Captain Obvious here but the fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals, economically speaking, seems to be the fight over who should have to work harder to earn money: the wealthy, or the rest.
the controlling wealthy, the oligarchy, don't "work".
Their income is mostly unearned from stocks, bonds, investments, financial casino, rents, interest income, while avoiding and evading taxes
DarrinS
08-30-2018, 10:02 PM
I’m good. My fellow citizens don’t pay me with their taxes.
DarrinS
08-30-2018, 10:04 PM
And, I have to plan my own retirement. I can’t get a check from my fellow citizens’ taxes until I die.
AaronY
08-30-2018, 10:32 PM
And, I have to plan my own retirement. I can’t get a check from my fellow citizens’ taxes until I die.
Look at Darrin going around lecturing people on personal responsibility like this is the Republican party of 1985..so adorable!
I just wanna pinch you on your cheeks!
Trainwreck2100
08-31-2018, 12:31 AM
So we're gonna just ignore paving responsibility when he gave away 1 trillion dollars last year
pgardn
08-31-2018, 01:30 AM
And, I have to plan my own retirement. I can’t get a check from my fellow citizens’ taxes until I die.
Bet you were pissed the military federal employees still get their raises and their pensions.
You just failed to mention it.
And same here your above, but I gained wealth from government infrastructure. I can get to work on roads and bridges, you just put your Superman suit on a fly everywhere. Good for you. Government never helped you in any way, you could become rich in Somalia.
Spurtacular
08-31-2018, 01:34 AM
:cry Muh govt. jobs :cry
:lmao OP
Chris
08-31-2018, 01:55 AM
Bet you were pissed the military federal employees still get their raises and their pensions.
You just failed to mention it.
And same here your above, but I gained wealth from government infrastructure. I can get to work on roads and bridges, you just put your Superman suit on a fly everywhere. Good for you. Government never helped you in any way, you could become rich in Somalia.
Are you saying Somalia is a shithole country?
hater
08-31-2018, 09:17 AM
Its sad to see this as we gave 1.5 trilionto bilkionaires and 1 trillion to make bombs to be used on children overseas
Thats 2.5 trillion right there
Byt federal orkers will be fine and will eventualky get paid. I have lots of family in the federal workforce and they are not worried one bit
boutons_deux
08-31-2018, 09:26 AM
Just Hours After Ordering Pay Cut for Millions of Public Workers, Trump Proposes $100 Billion Gift to Richest 1%
Trump wants to send another kiss to the rich—
unilaterally, without any approval from Congress.
He ignores the law,
governs for the top one percent, and
doesn't give a hoot about the rest of us."
he is considering a regressive and possibly illegal (https://twitter.com/taxjusticewonk/status/1035279880605315074) plan to use his executive power to hand the rich another $100 billion in tax cuts by indexing capital gains to inflation.
for Trump and the Republican Party, concerns for "fiscal sustainability" are quickly dropped when it comes time to deliver major gifts to the rich (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/12/22/corporations-are-literally-going-wild-says-trump-he-signs-tax-bill-most-americans), Wall Street (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/04/18/workers-see-crumbs-biggest-wall-street-banks-have-already-pocketed-25-billion-trump), and the Pentagon (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/08/02/40-senate-democrats-join-gop-send-717-billion-military-spending-bill-trumps-desk).
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) wrote that Trump is once again "making it clear he has no interest in supporting working people."
"Trump himself has pocketed millions over the years grifting off of taxpayers, but now he wants to make it harder for workers to get ahead," Sanders added.
"Trump and his Republican friends in Congress didn't have any problem finding $1.5 trillion in tax giveaways for the wealthiest people and
hugely profitable corporations,
but suddenly they don't have enough money to pay fair salaries to hardworking public servants."
86 percent of the benefits of this change in tax policy would go to the top one percent (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/30/us/politics/trump-tax-cuts-rich.html).
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/08/31/just-hours-after-ordering-pay-cut-millions-public-workers-trump-proposes-100-billion?cd-origin=rss
in2deep
08-31-2018, 09:45 AM
Yeah thats not a good look if we are handing out trillions to milionaires and military
Isitjustme?
08-31-2018, 03:23 PM
Weaksause with another of your lame Straws.
Gonna address this or keep dancing?:
Oh no 50% more than the average worker?!? That group sounds real privileged! Last thing they need is a handout!
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pgardn
08-31-2018, 03:29 PM
Are you saying Somalia is a shithole country?
No.
Im saying Darrin is obviously incredibly resourceful in countries that have no government.
Are you trying to say Trump is attempting to turn the US into a shithole country?
We all know government employees work their asses off. That's why it only takes 6 months to get a form 4 through when it should take a few days.
Winehole23
09-01-2018, 10:07 PM
where's my 4,000 smackers? why is the deficit bigger?
We all know government employees work their asses off. That's why it only takes 6 months to get a form 4 through when it should take a few days.
Next time you go to the Post Office, please pay attention to how much tape they use to tape on an address label - boggled my mind - like 3 times what was needed - all I thought was if she does that for every customer, all day long, for 30 years ....
Pavlov
09-02-2018, 12:08 AM
Next time you go to the Post Office, please pay attention to how much tape they use to tape on an address label - boggled my mind - like 3 times what was needed - all I thought was if she does that for every customer, all day long, for 30 years ....:lmao you're a government employee
AaronY
09-02-2018, 12:12 AM
Stupid Gov't!
Using too much tape at the post office! Goddamm I hate em so much!1!!1
ElNono
09-02-2018, 04:55 AM
Stupid Gov't!
Using too much tape at the post office! Goddamm I hate em so much!1!!1
True if huge
baseline bum
09-02-2018, 12:59 PM
:lmao you're a government employee
Doubtful, probably Wild Cobra's troll seeing the join date.
:lmao you're a government employee
I am a not a FEDERAL government employee - local govt that has to balance their budget. For those retiring soon, their pensions are golden - lots have changed since to bring salaries/pensions under control (such as the years after 2011 - no COLA). But I knew what would happen staying home to raise kids - no regrets - I'd do it all over again.
Doubtful, probably Wild Cobra's troll seeing the join date.
Is his join date close to mine? So you mean I'm really WC? If so, that's some alter ego and a vivid imagination.
Actually, it was probably frustration from the Mavs' series that drove me to this board - egad, what a poorly officiated series that was - but what goes around, comes around (in the Finals :-)
dabom
09-03-2018, 02:25 PM
I am a not a FEDERAL government employee - local govt that has to balance their budget. For those retiring soon, their pensions are golden - lots have changed since to bring salaries/pensions under control (such as the years after 2011 - no COLA). But I knew what would happen staying home to raise kids - no regrets - I'd do it all over again.
He didn't say Federal you dumb fuck.:lmao
He didn't say Federal you dumb fuck.:lmao
We were talking about a Post Office employee who is a federal employee - this thread is about federal employees.
dabom
09-03-2018, 02:41 PM
We were talking about a Post Office employee who is a federal employee - this thread is about federal employees.
And I'm still correct you dumb fuck. :lmao
dabom
09-03-2018, 02:51 PM
You know what really grinds my gears? Foreign asian teachers who kids can't discern shit from. I'm going to blame our public education failures on those people.:lmao
AaronY
09-03-2018, 03:29 PM
True if huge
oh indubitably. thats why if i get in office i will pass the postal tape responsibility act of 2019. no more wasting tax payer $$!!
AaronY
09-03-2018, 03:31 PM
then all the boxes will be falling open and shit and hell be complaining about that lol
oh indubitably. thats why if i get in office i will pass the postal tape responsibility act of 2019. no more wasting tax payer $$!!
You should help out with those HEB commercials :-)
then all the boxes will be falling open and shit and hell be complaining about that lol
I'm talking address labels - not securing boxes.
AaronY
09-03-2018, 03:36 PM
lmao
Ennis Del Mar
09-03-2018, 04:05 PM
I'm talking address labels - not securing boxes.
:lmao Republicans pay for their sexual harrassment settlements with taxpayer funds, and you don’t say shit. But extra tape on a shipping label is an INEXCUSABLE WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY.
:lmao Republicans pay for their sexual harrassment settlements with taxpayer funds, and you don’t say shit. But extra tape on a shipping label is an INEXCUSABLE WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY.
Gosh, you people are so uptight - it was just a simple comment. If we're talking tape on a long weekend, things aren't bad at all. Relax.
dabom
09-03-2018, 06:52 PM
Gosh, you people are so uptight - it was just a simple comment. If we're talking tape on a long weekend, things aren't bad at all. Relax.
Gets upset over tape use at one location and then downplays said gravity. :lmao
I got more response about tape than Spurs' Homer's proof that Trump should be impeached (sans WH) - just saying.
Spurtacular
09-03-2018, 06:55 PM
:lmao Republicans pay for their sexual harrassment settlements with taxpayer funds, and you don’t say shit. But extra tape on a shipping label is an INEXCUSABLE WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY.
The guy who goes around posting gay porn has an opinion :lmao
dabom
09-03-2018, 07:04 PM
I got more response about tape than Spurs' Homer's proof that Trump should be impeached (sans WH) - just saying.
When you defend something so stupid, you will get made fun of. :lmao
Spurtacular
09-03-2018, 07:37 PM
When you defend something so stupid, you will get made fun of. :lmao
Speaking of, what is your little pink friend up to these days? :lmao
baseline bum
09-03-2018, 07:41 PM
She is the stupidest piece of shit on a site that has tsa spurt and ducks.
Add in her racism, and she is the worst overall. Ducks is smarter in comparison.
She is Wild Cobras troll most likely
Spurtacular
09-03-2018, 07:43 PM
She is the stupidest piece of shit on a site that has tsa spurt and ducks.
Add in her racism, and she is the worst overall. Ducks is smarter in comparison.
Are you under the allusion that you're showing yourself to be above the top twenty percentile of intelligent posters here?
SMFH: These losers and the stones they throw.
:lmao
dabom
09-03-2018, 07:47 PM
Speaking of, what is your little pink friend up to these days? :lmao
What happened to we're the same person shtick? :lol
She is Wild Cobras troll most likely
I don't believe I've ever specifically addressed anything to WC.
When you defend something so stupid, you will get made fun of. :lmao
You mean criticize and being criticized for the criticism. I don't mind being made fun of - we need some levity - way too intense around here. Time for Federer.
Ennis Del Mar
09-03-2018, 08:26 PM
Gosh, you people are so uptight - it was just a simple comment. If we're talking tape on a long weekend, things aren't bad at all. Relax.
:lmao backtracking when your bullshit gets shoved back in your face.
Ennis Del Mar
09-03-2018, 08:28 PM
The guy who goes around posting gay porn has an opinion :lmao
:lmao did it get your little weenis hard? Did that scare you?
Spurtacular
09-03-2018, 08:35 PM
What happened to we're the same person shtick? :lol
Turned out you were Dumber to his Dumb. :lmao
Spurtacular
09-03-2018, 08:36 PM
:lmao did it get your little weenis hard? Did that scare you?
Nope on both counts. Just confirmed you're a raging faggot. :lmao
Nivek_ogre
09-03-2018, 08:45 PM
Of course trump doesn't care about their pay. They're not millionaires.
boutons_deux
09-03-2018, 09:11 PM
Of course trump doesn't care about their pay. They're not millionaires.
... but Trash's base does. The Repugs/oligarchy have been lying for 45 years that all govt (for the people) is The Problem, must be destroyed and privatized.
Govt employees with secure, well paid jobs and benefits must be punished, pulled down to the level of all the low-ed, low-paid assholes in Trash's base.
Ennis Del Mar
09-03-2018, 09:19 PM
Nope on both counts. Just confirmed you're a raging faggot. :lmao
https://media.giphy.com/media/13LRZ4W843DhpS/200w.gif
Spurtacular
09-03-2018, 09:36 PM
^^^
Posting more homoerotic cinematography. Sad.
Ennis Del Mar
09-03-2018, 09:50 PM
^^^
Getting so aroused by homoerotic cinematography that he can’t stop commenting about it. Sad.
Spurtacular
09-03-2018, 10:45 PM
jesus Christ. First, I actually don’t care what people on an anonymous fan site think. You should try that.
Second, I’m not on here parroting morons because I seek their approval, because I have no friends in the outside world. You should definitely try that.
Third, spell check is part of every cell service, use it.
Fourth, saying stupid shit and making assertions based upon debunked lies, then trying to play it off when pressed to answe does not make you an edgy intellectual. It makes you look stupid. And you should definitely try that
:lmao Loser raging hard.
Spurtacular
09-03-2018, 10:56 PM
Here’s the part you never ever get. Telling a dumb fuck they’re a dumb fuck, requires no anger. I get that the people that think for you give you cute little buzzwords to deflect the hurt of understanding you’re a dumb fuck. but your stupidity, and raging homosexual panic, is what makes your unwillingness to shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about pitiful, not maddening.
Now quit proving what a dumb fuck you are every fucking day of your pitiful existence
:lmao More loser raging.
:lmao Keep going, bruh.
https://media.giphy.com/media/1pw5Hn77ylYxW/giphy.gif
Pavlov
09-04-2018, 01:09 AM
Are you under the allusion that you're showing yourself to be above the top twenty percentile of intelligent posters here?
SMFH: These losers and the stones they throw.
:lmaolol "above the top twenty percentile of intelligent posters"
dabom
09-04-2018, 06:24 AM
lol "above the top twenty percentile of intelligent posters"
:lol
RandomGuy
09-04-2018, 10:46 AM
Are you under the allusion that you're showing yourself to be above the top twenty percentile of intelligent posters here?
SMFH: These losers and the stones they throw.
:lmao
allusion
noun al·lu·sion \ ə-ˈlü-zhən \
an implied or indirect reference especially in literature
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/allusion?src=search-dict-hed
Dunning-Kruger poster boy :lmao
You must be under the allusion that you are part of the twenty percent of public companies.
.
Dunning-Kruger isn't just about low intelligence. It's also about high intelligence. Both subsets tested out as not being aware of something, only the lower IQ group overrated themselves while the upper IQ group overrated others. Both suffer from basically the same effect. Perhaps those who misuse the term should consider which group they belong to.
Spurtacular
09-05-2018, 01:25 AM
Dunning-Kruger isn't just about low intelligence. It's also about high intelligence. Both subsets tested out as not being aware of something, only the lower IQ group overrated themselves while the upper IQ group overrated others. Both suffer from basically the same effect. Perhaps those who misuse the term should consider which group they belong to.
:lol And give up their meme? Never!
Winehole23
09-05-2018, 02:24 AM
:lol And give up their meme? Never!it's optional, dummy.
it ain't that funny.
AaronY
09-05-2018, 03:07 AM
Dunning-Kruger isn't just about low intelligence. It's also about high intelligence. Both subsets tested out as not being aware of something, only the lower IQ group overrated themselves while the upper IQ group overrated others. Both suffer from basically the same effect. Perhaps those who misuse the term should consider which group they belong to.
Sounds just like what someone with Dunning Kruger would say tbh
AaronY
09-05-2018, 03:08 AM
My take on the Dunning-Kruger is that I hope its related to the Kruger industrial smoothing from Seinfeld haha. Mema det guy he was a funny plot line
me smart. me not dunning nor kruger
Sounds just like what someone with Dunning Kruger would say tbh
Pretty sure I'm right.
AaronY
09-05-2018, 08:37 PM
Pretty sure I'm right.
You are lol. I was being a goofball
You are lol. I was being a goofball
Same here with the "pretty sure I'm right". That defines the lower end of the spectrum lol
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