So Eminem just released a new album

[lefty]

"What do you think?"

- Van Patten

[Avante]

I own one of his CD's. He does a fantastic job at selling what he is about, which is a deranged idiot who STILL thinks vulgarity is cool. And if you are in that mood it gets no better than Eminem. His book a must read.

Very talented at what he does. And I do get in that deranged idiot fuck this fuck that mood.


The Way I Am (book)

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Author
Marshall Mathers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem)


Country
United States


Language
English


Subject
Autobiography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobiography)


Genre
Non-fiction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-fiction)


Publisher
Dutton Adult (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutton_Adult)


Publication date
October 21, 2008


Media type
Print (Hardcover (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcover))


Pages
208


ISBN (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number)
0-525-95032-X (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/0-525-95032-X)


OCLC
223800516 (https://www.worldcat.org/oclc/223800516)


LC Class
ML420.E56 A3 2008


Preceded by
Angry Blonde (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angry_Blonde)


The Way I Am is a 2008 autobiography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobiography) by American rapper Eminem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem). The book was first published on October 21, 2008 by Dutton Adult (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutton_Adult).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_I_Am_%28book%29#cite_note-1) It is a collection of Eminem's personal stories, reflections, photographs, original artwork, and lyric sheets. It details his struggles with poverty, drugs, fame, heartbreak, family and depression, along with stories about his rise to fame and commentary on past controversies. The book is illustrated with never before published photos of Eminem's life. It also contains original drawings, previously unpublished lyric sheets, and other rare memorabilia. The autobiography is named after the song of the same name (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_I_Am_%28Eminem_song%29).

[FrostKing]

His daughter is beautiful

[Thanos]

:lmao people today are very shocked that Eminem said faggot in a new song :lmao

[FrostKing]

:lmao people today are very shocked that Eminem said faggot in a new song :lmao
Cause of Enimem's pathetic Trump bashing

[Avante]

:lmao people today are very shocked that Eminem said faggot in a new song :lmao

I seriously doubt anyone is shocked over anything anymore. Disgusted maybe, but shocked...nay!

[DJR210]

I own one of his CD's. He does a fantastic job at selling what he is about, which is a deranged idiot who STILL thinks vulgarity is cool.


And I do get in that deranged idiot fuck this fuck that mood.


Cool vulgarity :tu

[DJR210]

Cause of Enimem's pathetic Trump bashing

Why are you so invested in American/Western affairs?

[FrostKing]

Why are you so invested in American/Western affairs?
It seeps into everything everywhere

[Architects08]

Trash beats, and some of the choruses made my ears bleed. Lyrically though hes still a master. :lol at people still getting butt hurt about "faggot". He was just repeating what Tyler said and it was censored...

[DJR210]

It seeps into everything everywhere

It seeps where there is nothing else of interest going on..

[FrostKing]

It seeps where there is nothing else of interest going on..
Not necessarily. I remember the SoCal city I'm in had a ton of classic rock stations and alternative/rock in general. Then they started being replaced by generic pop/rap ran by iHeartMedia. Now there is only 1 classic rock station remaining and 3 rock all together.

I just Wikipedia and iHeartMedia filed for bankruptcy 3 months ago - $20 Billion in debt.

Even if iHeartMedia packs up and bails, will those rock stations return 1, 2 decades later. "If the market wants it so". Yah but DJs moved on, users moved to new outlets out of frustration. Not so simple

West has more wealth. More power to force feed their crap. At best they pack up and bail leaving an empty void and at worst they find some financial loophole to stick around. It goes deeper like America blowing up buildings overseas and replacing with their own product.

[Thanos]

Cause of Enimem's pathetic Trump bashing
It has nothing to do with that, stupid Polack.

It’s just amazing that people would go into an Eminem album and be upset to hear the word faggot, that’s been his calling card for twenty years :lol

[Avante]

Cool vulgarity :tu

So simple.

[FrostKing]

It has nothing to do with that, stupid Polack.

It’s just amazing that people would go into an Eminem album and be upset to hear the word faggot, that’s been his calling card for twenty years :lol
Because he recently tried being some sort of moral compass on Trump.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LunHybOKIjU

[Chris]

Just another pimp for UMG/Vivendi.

Music is shit.

[DMC]

Blah blah blah I'm rich as fuck but I'm like you.. now get off my property.

[Bynumite]

Should go back to using his indoors voice when he's rapping. The constant fast-paced yelling makes it unlistenable imho.

Something similar to this would be alright:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8eA7SRTb7Y

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Lucky you is the shit tbh. I've been jamming to it all day.

[paperboy77]

Blah blah blah I'm rich as fuck but I'm like you.. now get off my property.

You could say the same for any rich celeb or athlete. BTW is just finished watching The Shop and that's full of shit.... nothing but race shit from LBJ. Dude your a billionaire!

[paperboy77]

That album is definitely better than the shit he'd been putting out. Glad to hear the old EM (somewhat).

[koriwhat]

i'm no eminem fan but in a sea of wannabe rappers today who are whack as fuck including those who don't even rap but are considered rappers, like post malone, em is a breath of fresh air. with that said, fuck listening to this garbage and i don't need fresh air if it's coming out of em's halitosis mouth.

[DMC]

Jesse Pinkman with a hoodie and posse

[Reck]

His daughter is beautiful

Isn't she still underage?

[DAF86]

Number 1 on 70 different countries under 24 hs. GOATS gonna GOAT.

[AaronY]

Because he recently tried being some sort of moral compass on Trump.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LunHybOKIjU
410 posts in like a week lmao. god stfu already

[Spurtacular]

Cause of Enimem's pathetic Trump bashing

He's a sellout going for the lowest hanging fruit.

[Spurtacular]

Isn't she still underage?

:lmao Tranny pedophile

[Frank Dux]

https://twitter.com/chrisdelia/status/1035992382011895808?s=17
lol

[leemajors]

too busy listening to that new Bun B to care. You checked it Trill Clinton?

[Trill Clinton]

Yup i listened to some of the Bun yesterday. I really like it. The song with run the jewels and lil Wayne are my favorites.

[Geo210SpursSanAnto.]

Bring chad butler back... Pimp c was the realist.. They sacrificed him..... He was about to expose the music industry.. Its exactly what he said would happen with these fake ass booty hole plexin rappers nowadays

[InRareForm]

album is not bad!

[DJR210]

410 posts in like a week lmao. god stfu already

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

The Ringer and Lucky you are fire

[Fabbs]

song "Fall" seems pretty good.
Can some of you rappereses tell me what's behind his beef with many people on this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYjdfrEyWG8

[Bynumite]

https://twitter.com/chrisdelia/status/1035992382011895808?s=17
lol

OMG i'm in tears :lmao

[benefactor]

too busy listening to that new Bun B to care. You checked it Trill Clinton?
Outta Season had me feeling nostalgic. Good shit by Bun and KRIT.

[DJR210]

too busy listening to that new Bun B to care.


Bring chad butler back... Pimp c was the realist.. They sacrificed him..... He was about to expose the music industry.. Its exactly what he said would happen with these fake ass booty hole plexin rappers nowadays


Outta Season had me feeling nostalgic. Good shit by Bun and KRIT.

Will listen to that new Bun next time I'm on the road, thanks for the heads up :tu

Z-Ro is set to drop Sadism any day now, sure that's gonna be fire too

[Chucho]

Rap is experiencing what happened to rock back in the 2000's- all the best artists in the genre are old vets. Not a bad thing, just an indictment on how shit the current gen of artists are.

Bun has always been cold, tho.

[Spurminator]

Rap is experiencing what happened to rock back in the 2000's- all the best artists in the genre are old vets. Not a bad thing, just an indictment on how shit the current gen of artists are.

I don't know that most listeners would agree with you. Most younger hip hop listeners probably aren't listening to Bun B and Snoop. And to be honest, I'd have a hard time putting their new work up against Kendrick, Young Thug, Gucci, etc.

Rap is probably more popular now than it's ever been, so certainly there are going to be some new artists scraping the bottom. But the top artists are putting out some of the most inventive material the genre has ever seen.

Older rock fans pined for the good ole days during the grunge movement, but 25 years later there aren't many people suggesting the early 90's output of the hair metal and classic rock dinosaurs stands the test of time better than Nirvana, Soundgarden, etc.

[monosylab1k]

Rock and Rap both hit their absolute cultural rock bottom in the 1998-2004ish era. There’s some good rap out there today, but if the Lil’ Xans and 6ix9ines of the world are the future, rap might reach it’s lowest point yet, even lower than the Master P/Juvenile/50 Cent/Nelly/Ruff Ryders era.

[Chucho]

I don't know that most listeners would agree with you. Most younger hip hop listeners probably aren't listening to Bun B and Snoop. And to be honest, I'd have a hard time putting their new work up against Kendrick, Young Thug, Gucci, etc.

Rap is probably more popular now than it's ever been, so certainly there are going to be some new artists scraping the bottom. But the top artists are putting out some of the most inventive material the genre has ever seen.

Older rock fans pined for the good ole days during the grunge movement, but 25 years later there aren't many people suggesting the early 90's output of the hair metal and classic rock dinosaurs stands the test of time better than Nirvana, Soundgarden, etc.


Yeah, this is definitely going to be something we agree to disagree on, as tends to be with subjective entertainment.

Lamar is cool, but YT and Gucci are garbage to me and a lot of people I chat music with feel the same. It's the generational thing, but to me the output of guys like RiffRaff, Drake and the slew of pop musicians have watered down the genre. It is pop music.

It's what happened with rock in the early 2000's. The awesomeness of the 90s gave way to your Limp Bizkits and PowerMan 5000's etc. like we see watered down rappers like your Guccis and Young Thugs and your just garbage like 69 and whatnot.

Being popular doesn't make it better, but again, entertainment is all subjective.

[Chucho]

Rock and Rap both hit their absolute cultural rock bottom in the 1998-2004ish era. There’s some good rap out there today, but if the Lil’ Xans and 6ix9ines of the world are the future, rap might reach it’s lowest point yet, even lower than the Master P/Juvenile/50 Cent/Nelly/Ruff Ryders era.


Fiddy was legit. Replace him with Ja Rule and that statement is 100.

[monosylab1k]

Fiddy was legit. Replace him with Ja Rule and that statement is 100.

LOL Ja Rule, I forgot all about him and Murder Inc. My god that era of rap was such trash :lol

[Spurminator]

There’s some good rap out there today, but if the Lil’ Xans and 6ix9ines of the world are the future, rap might reach it’s lowest point yet

I think those guys are blips. They're viral stunts. The rap equivalent of Gangham Style.

But we'll see.

[Chucho]

LOL Ja Rule, I forgot all about him and Murder Inc. My god that era of rap was such trash :lol


LOL, I think someone here posted an article about that dude tryna run a music festival and it was complete and utter shits and false advertising since they advertised "cabannas" for people to stay in and they were just shitty survival tents.

[DAF86]

Rock and Rap both hit their absolute cultural rock bottom in the 1998-2004ish era. There’s some good rap out there today, but if the Lil’ Xans and 6ix9ines of the world are the future, rap might reach it’s lowest point yet, even lower than the Master P/Juvenile/50 Cent/Nelly/Ruff Ryders era.

Hardcore hip-hop fans talk about the 90's to the early 2000's as the golden era of hip-hop, tbh.

[Spurminator]

The late 90's to early 00's were a low point in a lot of areas of pop culture. Remember how every other summer blockbuster was a war movie for a while because of Saving Private Ryan?

[Spurminator]

Even worse, the absolute barrage of post-American Pie teen comedies.

[Spurminator]

On the other hand, the Golden Age of TV started then, so it wasn't all bad.

[Chucho]

^^Sopranos starting and Simpsons curtailing really was, tbh.

[monosylab1k]

Hardcore hip-hop fans talk about the 90's to the early 2000's as the golden era of hip-hop, tbh.

Early to mid-90’s yes. Nobody at all talks about early 2000’s rap being anything but total trash.

[DAF86]

Early to mid-90’s yes. Nobody at all talks about early 2000’s rap being anything but total trash.

Well, most have Eminem, Nas and Jay-Z on the short list of GOATS and that's the era where those dudes made most of their work.

[monosylab1k]

The late 90's to early 00's were a low point in a lot of areas of pop culture. Remember how every other summer blockbuster was a war movie for a while because of Saving Private Ryan?

We Were Soldiers, Hart’s War, Windtalkers etc :lol take an aging star to be a grizzled captain, throw in a young up and comer to question his authority, make sure there’s one really graphic bloody scene to show the “grim realities of war”, cash in, bro down.

[monosylab1k]

Well, most have Eminem, Nas and Jay-Z on the short list of GOATS and that's the era where those dudes made most of their work.

Most :lol

[DAF86]

Most :lol

Pretty much every list of hip hop GOATS I see on the web have those three in it.

[monosylab1k]

The only good albums Nas made were in 94 and 96, his efforts after that are widely regarded as subpar at best, Jay’s best album was in 96, by 2000 he was doing Big Pimpin and went full pop, and Eminem’s work in that time is solid but not amazing, it stood out because it was released in such a godawful time for rap music.

[monosylab1k]

Pretty much every list of hip hop GOATS I see on the web have those three in it.

Oh, well my mistake, I didn’t realize you had internet lists on your side of the argument.

[DAF86]

Oh, well my mistake, I didn’t realize you had internet lists on your side of the argument.

Internet lists display the opinion of millions and millions of people around the World. That's fairer than going by one subjective opinion, imho.

[monosylab1k]

Internet lists display the opinion of millions and millions of people around the World. That's fairer than going by one subjective opinion, imho.

Millions and millions :lol

[DJR210]

:lol Young Thug the Lady Gaga of rap

[lefty]

Eminem >>>>>> any black rapper tbh

[Fabbs]

Is Bun B and Krit what you's call "Mumble Rap"?
Borderline Mumble Rap?

[Bynumite]

Rock and Rap both hit their absolute cultural rock bottom in the 1998-2004ish era. There’s some good rap out there today, but if the Lil’ Xans and 6ix9ines of the world are the future, rap might reach it’s lowest point yet, even lower than the Master P/Juvenile/50 Cent/Nelly/Ruff Ryders era.

Ruff Ryders, really? DMX is an all time great. You can't make a song like this and be classified as "cultural rock bottom".




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ww-TQUeA3E

[Fabbs]

Ruff Ryders, really? DMX is an all time great. You can't make a song like this and be classified as "cultural rock bottom".




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ww-TQUeA3E
Yawn.
Repetetive.

[Spurminator]

:lol Young Thug the Lady Gaga of rap

I don't know what that means, is it because of the album cover where he wore a blue dress?

And tbh, Lady Gaga ushered in the best 4-5 year run of chick pop since Madonna and Whitney's prime. Flame away.

[Geo210SpursSanAnto.]

Dmx had some bangers that still stand the test of time, you can feel the pain hes spittin on "slippin"... Not on one of these mumble rappin simps nowdays could not match even that one song much less his discography...

[DMC]

Rap - finally a medium for songwriters who cannot sing

[lebomb]

All I know??

Eminem is about to destroy this clown Machine Gun Kelly..........:fight

[Quadzilla99]

DMX is awesome tbh

[lefty]

What is it with the dissing thing in rap music?

Fucking retarded tbh

[Fabbs]

What is it with the dissing thing in rap music?

Fucking retarded tbh
:rollin ST Krews or individual Krew Members battles.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183969&highlight=krews

[Chucho]

DMX is awesome tbh


Next to ODB taking MTV into the Welfare office with him, DMX getting blitzed out of his mind and crashing into an airport fence and then pretending to be an FBI Agent is one of the most thugged, ghetto fabulous rap moments ever.

[Avante]

The bottom line is unless you are a young black kid lacking musical knowledge you are going to be aware of so much stuff far superior to rap/hip hop.

White guy living on a ranch in Wyoming, who grew listening to Roy Acuff, Ernest Tubb, Hank Williams, isn't going to think much of untalented black guys with no class.

[lefty]

:rollin ST Krews or individual Krew Members battles.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183969&highlight=krews
:lol

[cd021]

Eminem >>>>>> any black rapper tbh
We just going to forget about NaS? Cool story bro.

[cd021]

The Ringer and Lucky you are fire

Kamikaze and the Ringer are fucking dope. Ringer is some of the best rapping I've heard in several years.

[cd021]

Well, most have Eminem, Nas and Jay-Z on the short list of GOATS and that's the era where those dudes made most of their work.

91-96 is the golden era in my opinion. Late 90's to early 2000s were pretty bad, save for Em, Jay-Z, NaS, and Outlast.

The pre Kim-ye Kanye was good enough to help carry rap till Cole, Kendrick and Drake took over.

[leemajors]

We just going to forget about NaS? Cool story bro.

Rakim.

[resistanze]

91-96 is the golden era in my opinion. Late 90's to early 2000s were pretty bad, save for Em, Jay-Z, NaS, and Outlast.

The pre Kim-ye Kanye was good enough to help carry rap till Cole, Kendrick and Drake took over.

You dudes are crazy...There was tons of great hip-hip from 97-2000

Aquemini
The Love Movement
Black on Both Sides
Black Star
Operation Doomsday
Things Fall Apart
Slim Shady LP
Chronic 2001
Murda Muzik
It's Dark and Hell is Hot
Moment of Truth
The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
Capital Punishment
Still Standing
Uptown Saturday Night
Wu-Tang Forever
One Day It’ll All Make Sense
Train Of Thought
Like Water for Chocolate

[Trill Clinton]

You dudes are crazy...There was tons of great hip-hip from 97-2000

Aquemini
The Love Movement
Black on Both Sides
Black Star
Operation Doomsday
Things Fall Apart
Slim Shady LP
Chronic 2001
Murda Muzik
It's Dark and Hell is Hot
Moment of Truth
The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
Capital Punishment
Still Standing
Uptown Saturday Night
Wu-Tang Forever
One Day It’ll All Make Sense
Train Of Thought
Like Water for Chocolate

Yup, so much heat. Don't forget the blueprint.

[FrostKing]

Tupac and DMX were my "niggas"

I enjoyed Nas and Jay-Z. But in 2000 when Cash Money and bling rap took over I forever lost interest. It seemed my interest and playing Basketball coincided with Rap.

[koriwhat]

We just going to forget about NaS? Cool story bro.

lmao eminem is better than all black rappers... big L says what's up.

[resistanze]

Yup, so much heat. Don't forget the blueprint.

Yeah i didn't even go past 2000. Blueprint was fire and so much more albums to add...

[cd021]

lmao eminem is better than all black rappers... big L says what's up.

:lol no he isn't. Eminem has said on multiple occasions that Nas is better than him. And he admitted that he copied his style on Infinite.

[cd021]

You dudes are crazy...There was tons of great hip-hip from 97-2000

Aquemini
The Love Movement
Black on Both Sides
Black Star
Operation Doomsday
Things Fall Apart
Slim Shady LP
Chronic 2001
Murda Muzik
It's Dark and Hell is Hot
Moment of Truth
The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
Capital Punishment
Still Standing
Uptown Saturday Night
Wu-Tang Forever
One Day It’ll All Make Sense
Train Of Thought
Like Water for Chocolate

Mentioned those two when I said Em', Jay, Nas and Outkast.

Blackstar, Miseducation, Like Water for Chocolate, Cap. Punishement are all flames but compared to '91-96 that list is less than half of the classics that were dropping.

[FrostKing]

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-big-l-is-my-favorite-rapper-of-all-time-he-got-killed-quite-a-few-years-ago-now-but-andy-milonakis-113-0-024.jpg

[cd021]

Rakim.

Nas surpassed Rakim long ago imo

[cd021]

Yup, so much heat. Don't forget the blueprint.
My original post already mentioned Jay, Nas, Em, and Outkast being the best rappers of the 97-04 era. Before Kanye came out. That era was otherwise forgettable in large part because of Ja Rule, and 50. That was when pop rap really became a thing; hell Jennifer Lopez had a number 1 rap hit with the "I'm Real Remix" :lol

[lebomb]

Dont forget about UGK and the Ghetto Boyz...........dem niggas own.

[Trill Clinton]

My original post already mentioned Jay, Nas, Em, and Outkast being the best rappers of the 97-04 era. Before Kanye came out. That era was otherwise forgettable in large part because of Ja Rule, and 50. That was when pop rap really became a thing; hell Jennifer Lopez had a number 1 rap hit with the "I'm Real Remix" :lol

Gotcha

[leemajors]

Nas surpassed Rakim long ago imo

No. Paid in Full is #1 easily.

[monosylab1k]

You dudes are crazy...There was tons of great hip-hip from 97-2000

Aquemini
The Love Movement
Black on Both Sides
Black Star
Operation Doomsday
Things Fall Apart
Slim Shady LP
Chronic 2001
Murda Muzik
It's Dark and Hell is Hot
Moment of Truth
The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
Capital Punishment
Still Standing
Uptown Saturday Night
Wu-Tang Forever
One Day It’ll All Make Sense
Train Of Thought
Like Water for Chocolate

Not saying that era of music was all trash. I called rock music trash in that era too, doesn’t mean I’m shitting on Kid A.

As a whole, that era of rap is a low point. Master P, Ja Rule, Juvenile, Nelly, etc.

Also, DMX is fucking terrible, I know he sounds cool and has street cred, but the dude put out tons of garbage.

[monosylab1k]

Mentioned those two when I said Em', Jay, Nas and Outkast.

Blackstar, Miseducation, Like Water for Chocolate, Cap. Punishement are all flames but compared to '91-96 that list is less than half of the classics that were dropping.


My original post already mentioned Jay, Nas, Em, and Outkast being the best rappers of the 97-04 era. Before Kanye came out. That era was otherwise forgettable in large part because of Ja Rule, and 50. That was when pop rap really became a thing; hell Jennifer Lopez had a number 1 rap hit with the "I'm Real Remix" :lol
:tu

[leemajors]

Not saying that era of music was all trash. I called rock music trash in that era too, doesn’t mean I’m shitting on Kid A.

As a whole, that era of rap is a low point. Master P, Ja Rule, Juvenile, Nelly, etc.

Also, DMX is fucking terrible, I know he sounds cool and has street cred, but the dude put out tons of garbage.

His roller coaster work and Rudolph cover are high points.

[DAF86]

:lol no he isn't. Eminem has said on multiple occasions that Nas is better than him. And he admitted that he copied his style on Infinite.

Eminem has said on many occasions he's the GOAT too. I wouldn't put too much emphasis on what he says, tbh.

To me the only two GOATs candidates are 2pac and Emin3m. When you talk about the GOAT of something people have to know about said GOAT. People that don't even have a clue about the thing that is being discussed but have at least heard the name of the person involved.

People that have never watched a tennis match, have heard the name Federer. People that don't like golf, know who Tiger Woods is. Folks that don't care about soccer recognize the names Maradona and Messi. Not to mention MJ (both MJs), Ali, The Beatles, etc.

Rap is minuscule in Argentina, almost non-existent, yet my 80 years old grandma has heard the names Eminem and Tupac. Same can't be said about guys like Jay-Z, Nas, Biggie or others.

[monosylab1k]

Eminem has said on many occasions he's the GOAT too. I wouldn't put too much emphasis on what he says, tbh.

To me the only two GOATs candidates are 2pac and Emin3m. When you talk about the GOAT of something people have to know about said GOAT. People that don't even have a clue about the thing that is being discussed but have at least heard the name of the person involved.

People that have never watched a tennis match, have heard the name Federer. People that don't like golf, know who Tiger Woods is. Folks that don't care about soccer recognize the names Maradona and Messi. Not to mention MJ (both MJs), Ali, The Beatles, etc.

Rap is minuscule in Argentina, almost non-existent, yet my 80 years old grandma has heard the names Eminem and Tupac. Same can't be said about guys like Jay-Z, Nas, Biggie or others.

:lmao By that logic NSYNC and Taylor Swift are the GOAT music acts

[FrostKing]

Does Fred Durst count?

[Avante]

It's all about genre.

Willie Nelson is not a rapper. Eminem is not a soul singer.

A cowboy in Wyoming is probably going with country, while a black kid in Detroits inner city......country????

[FrostKing]

It's all about genre.

Willie Nelson is not a rapper. Eminem is not a soul singer.

A cowboy in Wyoming is probably going with country, while a black kid in Detroits inner city......country????
Blacks tend to listen to black music regardless of region or upbringing. Hence why you see blacks raised in France wearing baseball hats, basketball shoes and saggy jeans

[Avante]

Blacks tend to listen to black music regardless of region or upbringing. Hence why you see blacks raised in France wearing baseball hats, basketball shoes and saggy jeans

You do understand the impact black music has had on white music, right? Why?

[DAF86]

:lmao By that logic NSYNC and Taylor Swift are the GOAT music acts

Taylor Swift isn't more known than pop artists like Michael Jackson or Madonna, tbh.

NSYNC comes second to the BackStreet Boys on the GOAT boy band list, tbh.

[Geo210SpursSanAnto.]

Jay-z took big l's style and is deep into the occult.. Fuck that clown.. K-rino is the last realist alive.. After they murdered prodigy in 2017...

[FrostKing]

You do understand the impact black music has had on white music, right? Why?
Meh. Europeans had Operas while africans were still wiping their butts with bushes. Not like blacks brought the guitar to America as slaves. Their main influence is drum and bass

[Avante]

Meh. Europeans had Operas while africans were still wiping their butts with bushes. Not like blacks brought the guitar to America as slaves. Their main influence is drum and bass

You really aren't getting it at all.

Where did country music come from?
How about soul, funk, blues, jazz, R&B, rock & roll...well?
British rock?

Where did Pink Floyd get that name? How about The Rolling Stones? Ever read up on.....anyone?

[FrostKing]

You really aren't getting it at all.

Where did country music come from?
How about soul, funk, blues, jazz, R&B, rock & roll...well?
British rock?

Where did Pink Floyd get that name? How about The Rolling Stones? Ever read up on.....anyone?
That's all 20th Century

[Avante]

That's all 20th Century

Dude, weren't you talking about slaves?

Reality, ok?

Nat King Cole. Ella Fitzgerald. Chuck Berry. Aretha Franklin. Kendrick Lamar.

When it comes to understanding the power of black artists in the American musical landscape, there is certainly no shortage of icons from which to choose. In fact, it is impossible to discuss the history of American music without examining the origins and impact of black music. For consumers of music today, the overarching influence of black music is palpable in every chord and lyric.

“You cannot imagine American music without its African influences. It just doesn’t exist,” said Benjamin Harbert, an assistant professor of music in the Department of Performing Arts.

Black music adds a layer of diversity to the American identity and constantly responds to the black American experience. The daily struggles, triumphs, hopes and failures of generations of black Americans are carefully and methodically recorded not only in the pages of history textbooks but also by the music and lyrics of the era.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Who recorded the first Rock & Roll records? Where did Jimmie Rodgers "The Father of Country Music" get his influenses growing up in Mississippi? Who influensed The Rolling Stones? How about Led Zeppelin? Bob Dylan? Bob Wills? The Beatles, Elvis?

[DAF86]

Best selling Rapper

1-Eminem
2-Jay-Z
3-Tupac

Most grammys for best rap album

1-Eminem
2-Jay-Z
3-Kanye West

At the top of both commercial and critical success, tbh.

[monosylab1k]

:lmao Grammys. Bring up all his Kids Choice Awards too while you’re at it.

[Avante]

It is also known that Eminem was a big NWA fan. He recalls about his first meeting with Dr Dre :

“It was an honor to hear the words out of Dre’s mouth that he liked my shit. Growing up, I was one of the biggest fans of N.W.A, from putting on the sunglasses and looking in the mirror and lip-synching to wanting to be Dr. Dre, to be Ice Cube. This is the biggest hip-hop producer ever.”


The listener who has studied a NWA tape has probably noticed how many rich its musical composition is :you will so many different black musical genres : soul, blues, jazz, reggae …

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You can't find any music today that can't be traced back to earlier influenses.

[monosylab1k]

Puff Daddy, Ludacris, & Macklemore all have Best Rap Album Grammys :lmao

[FrostKing]

Dude, weren't you talking about slaves?

Reality, ok?

Nat King Cole. Ella Fitzgerald. Chuck Berry. Aretha Franklin. Kendrick Lamar.

When it comes to understanding the power of black artists in the American musical landscape, there is certainly no shortage of icons from which to choose. In fact, it is impossible to discuss the history of American music without examining the origins and impact of black music. For consumers of music today, the overarching influence of black music is palpable in every chord and lyric.

“You cannot imagine American music without its African influences. It just doesn’t exist,” said Benjamin Harbert, an assistant professor of music in the Department of Performing Arts.

Black music adds a layer of diversity to the American identity and constantly responds to the black American experience. The daily struggles, triumphs, hopes and failures of generations of black Americans are carefully and methodically recorded not only in the pages of history textbooks but also by the music and lyrics of the era.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Who recorded the first Rock & Roll records? Where did Jimmie Rodgers "The Father of Country Music" get his influenses growing up in Mississippi? Who influensed The Rolling Stones? How about Led Zeppelin? Bob Dylan? Bob Wills? The Beatles, Elvis?
Fuck American music. Same garbage as McDonalds and ESPN.

[DAF86]

My hip-hop top 10, tbh:

1-Eminem
2-Tupac
3-Jay-Z
4-Biggie
5-Nas
6-N.W.A
7-Wu-Tang Clan
8-Outkast
9-Kanye West
10-Rakim

[140]

:lmao Grammys. Bring up all his Kids Choice Awards too while you’re at it.
:lol

[Avante]

Fuck American music. Same garbage as McDonalds and ESPN.

What are you listening to here?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFDYuO53BUk




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fymacb7GYDg




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryRDcE2sB2A

[DAF86]

Puff Daddy, Ludacris, & Macklemore all have Best Rap Album Grammys :lmao

Do they have 6?

[DAF86]

:lmao Grammys. Bring up all his Kids Choice Awards too while you’re at it.

What do you want to go by son? :lol

[DAF86]

We can go by Oscars if you want, tbh.

[monosylab1k]

We can go by Oscars if you want, tbh.

Three 6 Mafia has one of those :lmao

[DAF86]

Three 6 Mafia has one of those :lmao

Do they also have 6 grammys for best album and are the best selling artist?

[monosylab1k]

Skrillex has 8 Grammys :lmao what a prestigious honor.

[FrostKing]

What are you listening to here?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFDYuO53BUk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5p_U8J0iRQ

[DAF86]

Skrillex has 8 Grammys :lmao what a prestigious honor.

Seriously son, tell me what do you want to base the argument on. :lol

[monosylab1k]

Seriously son, tell me what do you want to base the argument on. :lol

If you think you can analyze hip hop credentials through album sales and Grammys, then you’re hopeless. It’s okay, you aren’t American so didn’t have much of a chance.

[Avante]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5p_U8J0iRQ

Totally missed the point.

All those videos by white artists were covers of old black music......why?

What Eminem does can be traced back to old black music.

[FrostKing]

Totally missed the point.

All those videos by white artists were covers of old black music......why?

What Eminem does can be traced back to old black music.
"Old black music"

It's all 20th century.

[DAF86]

If you think you can analyze hip hop credentials through album sales and Grammys, then you’re hopeless. It’s okay, you aren’t American so didn’t have much of a chance.

Do you want to go by lyricism, technichal abilities, word play and range of subjects? I have some things to post about that too, tbh.

[Avante]

"Old black music"

It's all 20th century.

You lost me, what?

[monosylab1k]

Do you want to go by lyricism, technichal abilities, word play and range of subjects? I have some things to post about that too, tbh.

I might believe that you aren’t talking out of your ass right here, but if you knew anything about any of that, you wouldn’t have put Tupac or NWA on your list :lmao

[DAF86]

I might believe that you aren’t talking out of your ass right here, but if you knew anything about any of that, you wouldn’t have put Tupac or NWA on your list :lmao

Everybody knows Tupac isn't the most technichal rapper out there, yet he's still considered the GOAT by many, which goes to show you that there's more to the GOAT discussion than technichal abilities.

[monosylab1k]

Everybody knows Tupac isn't the most technichal rapper out there, yet he's still considered the GOAT by many, which goes to show you that there's more to the GOAT discussion than technichal abilities.

:lmao just admit you were talking out of your ass. Or keep googling on the fly to keep up.

[FrostKing]

> most technical rapper

Entirely subjective

[koriwhat]

:lol no he isn't. Eminem has said on multiple occasions that Nas is better than him. And he admitted that he copied his style on Infinite.

you're arguing against me or with me? reread my reply that you quoted.

eminem sucks and always has.

[DAF86]

> most technical rapper

Entirely subjective

There are objective ways to determine such things. Go check the Youtube channel "Genius".

[DAF86]

:lmao just admit you were talking out of your ass. Or keep googling on the fly to keep up.

lol son. I've been a hip-hop fan all my life. Tupac getting jabs for not being the most technichal rapper is nothing new. But that isn't good criticism, imho, considering that his flow might be the catchiest of all-time and his range of topics is among the best ever.

[monosylab1k]

lol son. I've been a hip-hop fan all my life. Tupac getting jabs for not being the most technichal rapper is nothing new. But that isn't good criticism, imho, considering that his flow might be the catchiest of all-time and his range of subjects is among the best ever.

Range of subjects :lol

“Hennessy, i’ll kill all yall muthafuckas, respect women, shut up bitchass hoe”

So much range.

Tupac was a very catchy pop rapper. He was fun and played up his fake thug image to perfection.

[koriwhat]

lol son. I've been a hip-hop fan all my life. Tupac getting jabs for not being the most technichal rapper is nothing new. But that isn't good criticism, imho, considering that his flow might be the catchiest of all-time and his range of topics is among the best ever.

:tu

brenda has a baby is a masterpiece in hip hop history. plenty other bangers too. mono is just a dipshit who wants so badly to be cool but he isn't. he's just a fucking loser behind a computer typing with chopsticks.


Range of subjects :lol

“Hennessy, i’ll kill all yall muthafuckas, respect women, shut up bitchass hoe”

So much range.

Tupac was a very catchy pop rapper. He was fun and played up his fake thug image to perfection.

you have no clue you fat fucking wonton.

[DJR210]

I don't think 2pac is the GOAT, but now in my mid 30's trip on how mature his lyrics were for a dude in his early 20's

[monosylab1k]

I don't think 2pac is the GOAT, but now in my mid 30's trip on how mature his lyrics were for a dude in his early 20's

He was the same confused manbaby most dudes are in their 20’s. At least he was aware enough to do one “respect women” song for every “slap a bitch and punch a hoe” track.

[monosylab1k]

:tu

brenda has a baby is a masterpiece in hip hop history. plenty other bangers too. mono is just a dipshit who wants so badly to be cool but he isn't. he's just a fucking loser behind a computer typing with chopsticks.



you have no clue you fat fucking wonton.
:lmao thinking tupac is deep.

[DJR210]

He was the same confused manbaby most dudes are in their 20’s. At least he was aware enough to do one “respect women” song for every “slap a bitch and punch a hoe” track.

Still on a different level than what you see from most 20ish year old artists, whether you liked him or not. Today these dumb shits primarily talk about garbage like popping percocets

[koriwhat]

:lmao thinking tupac is deep.

lmao thinking you know anything at all. you're a fucking retard holmes.

[monosylab1k]

Still on a different level than what you see from most 20ish year old artists, whether you liked him or not. Today these dumb shits primarily talk about garbage like popping percocets

Yeah considering his age he was more thoughtful than most his age. He still rapped about a lot of dumb shit and a lot of his philosophies were incredibly immature tho. Actually considering how stupid most guys in their early 20’s are (myself included) i probably am not giving Pac enough credit. And XXXtentacion was actually very similar to Pac in this regard.

[monosylab1k]

lmao thinking you know anything at all. you're a fucking retard holmes.

:lmao a dude with Spur calf tats who hangs out at trap houses calling anyone else a retard. Your entire fucking life is a warning label for anyone under 18.

[koriwhat]

:lmao a dude with Spur calf tats who hangs out at trap houses calling anyone else a retard. Your entire fucking life is a warning label for anyone under 18.

you'll be dead before me homie. that cardiac arrest or diabetes gonna catch you slippin.

your lifestyle screams agoraphobia.

[monosylab1k]

you'll be dead before me homie. that cardiac arrest or diabetes gonna catch you slippin.

your lifestyle screams agoraphobia.

Whatever I do with my life, I can just ask myself two questions:

1. Do I have shitty calf tats?

2. Do I frequently hang out at trap houses?

If the answer to both is “no” then my life is less shitty and pathetic than yours.

[koriwhat]

Whatever I do with my life, I can just ask myself two questions:

1. Do I have shitty calf tats?

2. Do I frequently hang out at trap houses?

If the answer to both is “no” then my life is less shitty and pathetic than yours.

lmao the tattoos are only shitty to you because they're on me done by a very professional tattooer. as well, i don't frequent trap houses and only been to one like twice in which i wanted out asap; went with a friend. big deal right? wow!

on the flip side, i can still see my dick and not die early because i'd rather stuff my gullet with sweet n' sour everything like you.

i'd way rather be me any day of the week than some obese loser ass motherfucker trying to be a badass. my life ain't grand but at least i'm not dying under my own weight.

keep reaching fat fuck!

[DJR210]

Yeah considering his age he was more thoughtful than most his age. He still rapped about a lot of dumb shit and a lot of his philosophies were incredibly immature tho. Actually considering how stupid most guys in their early 20’s are (myself included) i probably am not giving Pac enough credit. And XXXtentacion was actually very similar to Pac in this regard.

He changed when he joined Death Row.. He stopped giving a fuck. Prison time and being shot a bunch of times has that effect IMO..

[resistanze]

Not saying that era of music was all trash. I called rock music trash in that era too, doesn’t mean I’m shitting on Kid A.

As a whole, that era of rap is a low point. Master P, Ja Rule, Juvenile, Nelly, etc.

Also, DMX is fucking terrible, I know he sounds cool and has street cred, but the dude put out tons of garbage.

I'd take any of those mainstream artists you mentioned over XXXTentaciaon, Lil Pump, Lil Xan, Lil Yatchy, Tekashi 6ix9ine, Post Malone and Cardi B :lol

The list I mentioned doesn't support a low point - I can't name that many good albums from (mostly) mainstream artists from say, 2015-18. Can you?

[monosylab1k]

I'd take any of those mainstream artists you mentioned over XXXTentaciaon, Lil Pump, Lil Xan, Lil Yatchy, Tekashi 6ix9ine, Post Malone and Cardi B :lol

The list I mentioned doesn't support a low point - I can't name that many good albums from (mostly) mainstream artists from say, 2015-18. Can you?

I already said earlier in the thread that the current era of hip hop might be worse than the 98-04ish era.

That era of rock-rap, Dirty South, and pop-rap is absolute trash no matter how you spin it. There was good stuff, like there is in every era, but overall it was a cultural valley, as is 2018.

[cd021]

No. Paid in Full is #1 easily.
illmatic is far better tbh

[cd021]

Best selling Rapper

1-Eminem
2-Jay-Z
3-Tupac

Most grammys for best rap album

1-Eminem
2-Jay-Z
3-Kanye West

At the top of both commercial and critical success, tbh.

:lol do people really use Grammys as a barometer for anything anymore?

Macklemore won a rap Grammy over Kendrick, let that sink in.

Eminem has the benefit of "crossover appeal" being that he is more likely to get play on non hip-hop stations as well as hip-hop stations.

Jay-Z and NaS never really had that, that doesn't mean that they are worse rappers just because they sold fewer than Eminem.

[cd021]

My hip-hop top 10, tbh:

1-Eminem
2-Tupac
3-Jay-Z
4-Biggie
5-Nas
6-N.W.A
7-Wu-Tang Clan
8-Outkast
9-Kanye West
10-Rakim

Nas
Jay-Z
2pac
André 3000
Eminem
Ice Cube
Kanye
Biggie
LL Cool J


Are we still pretended like NaS isn't better than Biggie? NaS' first two albums are better than his.

Ice Cube made NWA, once he left they were just another group. Ice Cube had a run of 3 straight classics (not including Straight Outta Compton) he is criminally underrated.

[cd021]

Jay-z took big l's style and is deep into the occult.. Fuck that clown.. K-rino is the last realist alive.. After they murdered prodigy in 2017...

Not really, Jays style on Reasonable doubt is definitely different from L's. L may be the greatest punchline rapper ever but that has never been Jay-z's style.

[djohn2oo8]

FxQTY-W6GIo

[Clipper Nation]

Jay-z took big l's style and is deep into the occult.. Fuck that clown.. K-rino is the last realist alive.. After they murdered prodigy in 2017...

Jay's style hasn't been remotely similar to Big L's since the early '90s, tbh. Even by the time Reasonable Doubt came out, he had already changed his flow.

[Clipper Nation]

Jay’s best album was in 96
Reasonable Doubt wasn't better than The Blueprint or The Black Album, imo.

[MultiTroll]

What do you faggots think now that the new Eminem has been out for a while?

[HarlemHeat37]

He's always been overrated, but now he's just an embarrassment..

Even the tracks he put out when he was nice have aged poorly..