Dallas cop fearing for her life shoots scary black man in apartment

[Winehole23]

Pick a side DMC.

It's gonna hurt.

[Pavlov]

Don't feed the creeper...:lol keep posting only about me, derp

[Pavlov]

Pick a side DMC.

It's gonna hurt.:lol he's gonna say something edgy about you now.

[spurraider21]

There are reasons for this. People will make claims such that "god told me to do it", etc. Even if they were completely brainwashed and truthful, it's still murder.
insanity defense tbh

[Winehole23]

:lol he's gonna say something edgy about you now.His edgy comments have been lame of late. For awhile, actualy.

There's something to the old saw that premature cynics, for lack of idealistic brio, get senile prematurely..

So you get a DMC who's a stodgy acolyte.of police power.

[Winehole23]

While pretending to be a free thinking libertarian.

[Winehole23]

Seems like the correct decision since she is claiming self defense

Already said I think murder is the correct charge but why do you think the jury shouldn't be able to consider her defense? She's entitled to one right?Didn't Botham Jean have the right to resist a wrongful home inavsion?

If not, why not?

[Winehole23]

Why does the castle doctrine protect the invader but not the legal resident?

[Winehole23]

Oh right, he was black with Caribbean heritage. Not from here.

Fuck that church singer!

[Winehole23]

A cop got confused and scared; he deserved to die!

[SnakeBoy]

But that includes lack of intent to kill. She testified she intended to kill. I think it's either murder or she walks. She'll never wear a badge again, but she should serve some time just for the fact of wrongful death. We know she won't be able to pay off a lawsuit, and the city won't need to settle until the wrongful death civil case.

Yeah I think it is murder. Would like to see her do a few years plus probation. Hopefully she doesn't walk.

[SnakeBoy]

Didn't Botham Jean have the right to resist a wrongful home inavsion?

If not, why not?

Sure. She's still entitled to a defense.

[Winehole23]

Who cares besides friends and kin, it's just a man's life sacrificed to the emotional frailty of LE.

God forbid a civil servant should be momentarily inconvenienced, better to extinguish the complaint altogether.

[SnakeBoy]

Oh right, he was black with Caribbean heritage. Not from here.

Fuck that church singer!

Probably what the judge was thinking amirite?

[SnakeBoy]

2 in the morning. Whinehole drunk and angry lol.

[Winehole23]

Sure. She's still entitled to a defense.

Not contested.

She's getting one. Bully on her lawyers. Protecting the guilty from legal responsibility is a primary obligation of defense.

[Winehole23]

2 in the morning. Whinehole drunk and angry lol.what are you doing up at this hour?

[Winehole23]

Probably what the judge was thinking amirite?Your hypothesis, not mine. I was thinking of the defense.

[Winehole23]

Sure. She's still entitled to a defense.Was Botham Jean entitled to resist a cop who had no good reason to invade his home?

[Blake]

Since they aren't in a trial about morality, legal will be all that matters. Benefit of the doubt. Good to know your uninformed mob mentality is intact. Keep up the fight. Fuck the justice system.

Legal will be all that matters in a court of law? No way!

"Benefit of doubt" of what? That in the dark she thought his ice cream spoon was really a knife?

Good to know you're okay with her walking free. All hail the Justice system. It's infallible. Don't fight it.

[ElNono]

insanity defense tbh

yep, that's what I pointed out as an exception, mental illness

[ElNono]

Seems like the correct decision since she is claiming self defense

Already said I think murder is the correct charge but why do you think the jury shouldn't be able to consider her defense? She's entitled to one right?

Honestly, her defense makes sense in a civil case (which I'm sure there will be one), not a criminal trial. Murder cases like this one, where the murderer confessed and there's no mental illness or some such going on, end up being a cursory trial to prove the forensics indicate that indeed she pulled the trigger, etc. Which is pretty damn clear in this case.

The jury itself doesn't define the sentence, which is where there's wiggle room to take into consideration her reasoning can come into play.

[Pavlov]

Well, I can't say I'm surprised DMC would champion the feelings-based defense when it's a black man who got murdered.

[ElNono]

I wouldn't take DMC as somebody that's racist. And the confusion between criminal vs civil is pretty common, tbh

[Pavlov]

I wouldn't take DMC as somebody that's racist.I just wasn't surprised tbh.

Mostly about the feelings.

[Blake]

I wouldn't take DMC as somebody that's racist. And the confusion between criminal vs civil is pretty common, tbh

Yeah I would take DMC as somebody that's confused. Pretty common for him, tbh

[Spurminator]

Was Botham Jean entitled to resist a cop who had no good reason to invade his home?

I haven't seen anyone suggest otherwise.

[Winehole23]

I haven't seen anyone suggest otherwise.Anyone who says it was reasonable for Guyger to shoot Botham Jean is suggesting otherwise.

[Spurminator]

Anyone who says it was reasonable for Guyger to shoot Botham Jean is suggesting otherwise.

That goes back to whether you accept her confusion about where she was, which is what this whole case is about.

No one thinks it's okay to intentionally walk into someone else's apartment and kill them out of supposed self-defense.

[MultiTroll]

That goes back to whether you accept her confusion about where she was, which is what this whole case is about.

No one thinks it's okay to intentionally walk into someone else's apartment and kill them out of supposed self-defense.
True, but zero accountability? Lets bring in the defense liarwyers:

Drive car wrong way and head on kill a family of 4. "Whoopsies, I thought I was going the right way. Not guilty."

Pharmacist gives your kid the wrong stuff and it kills him. "Whoopsies, I thought I was giving you an antibiotic. Not guilty."

Pavlov and Chunko have a dinner date at the local hospital cafeteria. They are served contaminated stuff from the lab and spend their last moments spooning while posting on ST. "Whoopsies, we mixed up the lab plates with the cooks area plates. Not guilty."

[Pavlov]

:lol Flabbs still has fantasies about men here.

[DMC]

Legal will be all that matters in a court of law? No way!

"Benefit of doubt" of what? That in the dark she thought his ice cream spoon was really a knife?

Good to know you're okay with her walking free. All hail the Justice system. It's infallible. Don't fight it.

Anything that's not beyond a reasonable doubt means that benefit of doubt is granted.

[DMC]

That goes back to whether you accept her confusion about where she was, which is what this whole case is about.

No one thinks it's okay to intentionally walk into someone else's apartment and kill them out of supposed self-defense.

So you're saying it was about intent.

[spurraider21]

True, but zero accountability? Lets bring in the defense liarwyers:

Drive car wrong way and head on kill a family of 4. "Whoopsies, I thought I was going the right way. Not guilty."

Pharmacist gives your kid the wrong stuff and it kills him. "Whoopsies, I thought I was giving you an antibiotic. Not guilty."

Pavlov and Chunko have a dinner date at the local hospital cafeteria. They are served contaminated stuff from the lab and spend their last moments spooning while posting on ST. "Whoopsies, we mixed up the lab plates with the cooks area plates. Not guilty."
Some crimes are strict liability, like traffic violations. Others require prosecutors to establish mens rea

[Pavlov]

Guilty of murder.

[MultiTroll]

Others require prosecutors to establish mens rea
I'm not touching the Pavlov - Chunko case.

[resistanze]

Guilty of murder.

Wow, I obviously agree with verdict but shocked they came to conclusion relatively quickly.

[Trill Clinton]

Yesssssss!!!!

[Pavlov]

I'm not touching the Pavlov - Chunko case.You're too busy touching yourself thinking about it.

[MultiTroll]

Jury with a clue. :clap

Hopefully Guyger can get some serious rehab if there is a sincere bone in her body.

[Pavlov]

Wow, I obviously agree with verdict but shocked they came to conclusion relatively quickly.True, especially after the judge told them BTW, here's a way you can have her skate completely. Just sayin'.

[resistanze]

True, especially after the judge told them BTW, here's a way you can have her skate completely. Just sayin'.
:lol

I've read a theory the judge included castle doctrine and manslaughter in order to lower the prospects of a retrial (i.e. appeal that options were not considered in the first trial.). Not sure if that was true but it did seem the jury knew how to apply the law and thought castle doctrine was absurd.

[boutons_deux]

Amazing. Now the sentencing.

Can Botham Jean's family sue DPD? She was off duty, but in uniform, and acting as DPD cop does, escalating immediately to shoot to kill.

[Spurminator]

True, but zero accountability?

I'm not suggesting zero accountability either. At all. She should get prison time and probation. And pay a hefty civil penalty.

[Pavlov]

:lol

I've read a theory the judge included castle doctrine and manslaughter in order to lower the prospects of a retrial (i.e. appeal that options were not considered in the first trial.). Not sure if that was true but it did seem the jury knew how to apply the law and thought castle doctrine was absurd.Right. Ultimately none of the excuses were reasonable. It just came down to the question Did you really have to shoot the guy?

Of course not.

[spurraider21]

Based on the publicly available facts, a murder conviction has been the only reasonable outcome for quite some time. That they were even asked to consider manslaughter is preposterous. Judge clearly wanted the jury to go another way, which sucks.

I dont think she deserves a very long sentence tbh

[MultiTroll]

She was off duty,
Should end any DPD liability right there.
Assuming they can show proper amount of hours trained to operate a gun etc.

[MultiTroll]

I dont think she deserves a very long sentence tbh
Really? Why not?

[Spurminator]

So you're saying it was about intent.

I get that intent, legally speaking, is defined as the moment she pulled the trigger she intended to kill him. So by definition, murder makes sense. What I've been questioning in this thread is whether that definition is too rigid.

[boutons_deux]

What if Botham Jean had been a scofflaw Freddy Gray type? or an ex-con? A different verdict?

[DMC]

Right. Ultimately none of the excuses were reasonable. It just came down to the question Did you really have to shoot the guy?

Of course not.

Agreed. All else is reasonable. Cops are too comfortable with taking life.

[spurraider21]

Really? Why not?
I don’t think she acted with malice. She was likely mistaken. It’s just not a good enough one to avoid accountability when using lethal force.

[DMC]

I get that intent, legally speaking, is defined as the moment she pulled the trigger she intended to kill him. So by definition, murder makes sense. What I've been questioning in this thread is whether that definition is too rigid.

She could have gotten off with less if she said "stop him" instead of "kill him"

She is culpable.

[spurraider21]

I get that intent, legally speaking, is defined as the moment she pulled the trigger she intended to kill him. So by definition, murder makes sense. What I've been questioning in this thread is whether that definition is too rigid.
My initial assumption ITT was that manslaughter was a slam dunk charge until i actually read the Texas penal code sections on homicide. I think the leeway in sentencing makes up for that rigidity tbh

[MultiTroll]

So what's the minimum under Texass law?

[Spurminator]

She could have gotten off with less if she said "stop him" instead of "kill him"

She is culpable.

Right, but culpable is a huge step down from "murderer."

Anyway, credit to the jury for coming to the right decision under the law. Hopefully some healing comes from this.

[DMC]

Right, but culpable is a huge step down from "murderer."

Anyway, credit to the jury for coming to the right decision under the law. Hopefully some healing comes from this.

It's unfortunate all around but if there is a responsible party it's her.

[RD2191]

Black man kills white woman in Texas? He'd already be hanging in front of the court house. Give this bitch life.

[boutons_deux]

...

[Spurminator]

It's a fascinating case because you don't often, if ever, have a high-profile murder trial like this where the defendant (1) admits to killing someone, and (2) shows such a high level of remorse. To say nothing of the racial and law enforcement angles.

[MultiTroll]

Black man kills white woman in Texas? He'd already be hanging in front of the court house. Give this bitch life.
2 wrongs = 1 right? :nope

I want her doing some serious time. With access to rehab so she can be productive. Would be nice to hear what really came down if she ever gets to the point to tell it without the filter of liarwyers. Her mind must have been out there after phoning and texting with her booty call.

[spurraider21]

Black man kills white woman in Texas? He'd already be hanging in front of the court house. Give this bitch life.
I don’t really think she’d be a danger to society going forward tbh

[Spurminator]

I don’t really think she’d be a danger to society going forward tbh

I thought that at one time.... but then I guess you have to ask if a reflexive shooter who has a history of confusion about her surroundings is really that much less of a danger than your typical first-time murderer.

[vy65]

Based on the publicly available facts, a murder conviction has been the only reasonable outcome for quite some time. That they were even asked to consider manslaughter is preposterous. Judge clearly wanted the jury to go another way, which sucks.

I dont think she deserves a very long sentence tbh

Not necessarily. Judges include instructions and questions to protect themselves on appeal.

[MultiTroll]

I don’t really think she’d be a danger to society going forward tbh
But you're not sure. :lol Can she move next door to you? Hey I agree she's probably never going to go near a gun again.

So what kind of a sentence are you imposing?

[DMC]

Pick a side DMC.

It's gonna hurt.

No need to take a side. Its not a team sport, dummy.

[spurraider21]

Not necessarily. Judges include instructions and questions to protect themselves on appeal.
that reverse castle doctrine shit was disturbing imo

[Pavlov]

Well she's going to get at least a nickel. I'd at least double that but I'm biased.

[resistanze]

On TV they said if she gets a sentence of 10 or less, she can be released from jail if she files an appeal.

[Pavlov]

On TV they said if she gets a sentence of 10 or less, she can be released from jail if she files an appeal.Shit, she's gonna have to move to Mineola if she's out.

[boutons_deux]

She'll probably get hired, like ex-cops do, somewhere as sheriff's deputy. Sheriff depts seem to hire the bottom of the barrel.

[MultiTroll]

BTW is it known who financed her high priced private defense liarwyers? The KKK? Good ole boy Dallas police alumni?

Doubt that's public knowledge but...

[MultiTroll]

On TV they said if she gets a sentence of 10 or less, she can be released from jail if she files an appeal.
Can you picture some gov't dumbfucks sitting in a room making up these laws / loopholes. :spin

[Pavlov]

Not necessarily. Judges include instructions and questions to protect themselves on appeal.From what I've read about the judge, this may be the case here. Seemed like it came in out of left field but I wasn't following the trial all that closely.

[SnakeBoy]

From what I've read about the judge, this may be the case here. Seemed like it came in out of left field but I wasn't following the trial all that closely.

Her defense was basically that she thought she was defending herself on her own property. Makes sense to me that the judge would say the jury can consider her defense.

[Pavlov]

Her defense was basically that she thought she was defending herself on her own property. Makes sense to me that the judge would say the jury can consider her defense.Everything I heard was a little peripheral to castle doctrine; that she was just reasonable in every single thing she did.

Also: https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ZtjJBcqu3vhKCwE/giphy.gif

[MultiTroll]

Shit, she's gonna have to move to Mineola if she's out.
Psssh I'm sure she is more then welcome in many Dallass and Texass neighborhoods.

[Pavlov]

Psssh I'm sure she is more then welcome in many Dallass and Texass neighborhoods.Not Dallas proper. Why do you think she wanted a change of venue in the first place?

And Mineola is in Texas.

[MultiTroll]

Not Dallas proper. Why do you think she wanted a change of venue in the first place?

And Mineola is in Texas.
1. Wanted to get to a 99% white jury pool location.

2. Now I know. Thought you meant Minnesota.

[Blake]

Anything that's not beyond a reasonable doubt means that benefit of doubt is granted.

You don't say!

[Blake]

No need to take a side. Its not a team sport, dummy.

Yeah you sure did walk the fence when asked your opinion here, sideliner.

[baseline bum]

Guilty of murder

[baseline bum]

Get in here RD2191

[baseline bum]

Guyger sounds racist as fuck in this shit being read out in court before the sentencing.

[resistanze]

Guyger sounds racist as fuck in this shit being read out in court before the sentencing.

Using SMS in 2018 ������

[Millennial_Messiah]

Guyger sounds racist as fuck in this shit being read out in court before the sentencing.
Would bang <3

[baseline bum]

Looks like Guyger's about to go on the stand and beg for a lighter sentence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C8vZramNkI

[Millennial_Messiah]

Looks like Guyger's about to go on the stand and beg for a lighter sentence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C8vZramNkI
sentence is "anywhere between 5 and 99" years... can't wait for the :monkey reaction when she gets 6 1/2 years with a 50% time good behavior reduction clause :lol

[RD2191]

Get in here RD2191

Get the rope gawd dammit!

[baseline bum]

Get the rope gawd dammit!

I'm going to guess ten years will be her sentence.

[baseline bum]

So Guyger is in custody now. Wonder if she tries to Epstein herself tonight.

[AaronY]

sentence is "anywhere between 5 and 99" years... can't wait for the :monkey reaction when she gets 6 1/2 years with a 50% time good behavior reduction clause :lol
Yea, sure would be embarrassing for blacks to be upset about something like this

[RD2191]

I'm going to guess ten years will be her sentence.

Yeah, I'd be surprised if it went anywhere past 10 tbh.

[RD2191]

So Guyger is in custody now. Wonder if she tries to Epstein herself tonight.

:lol

[Trill Clinton]

sentence is "anywhere between 5 and 99" years... can't wait for the :monkey reaction when she gets 6 1/2 years with a 50% time good behavior reduction clause :lol

Only chimp reactions we've seen so far are your monkey feet

[Spurs Homer]

Very surprised to see murder over manslaughter

but

judge and jury appeared to have followed the law properly

good news overall

unless the sentence is too light.

[Trainwreck2100]

It's fucking hilarious that a certain demographic was celebrating and thinks this one ruling changes anything. It won't you'll still get shot in the street. And the cops will walk. This was just a special case where they couldn't find a way to cover it up.

[LkrFan]

So Guyger is in custody now. Wonder if she tries to Epstein herself tonight.

That would be nice. Save taxpayers money that way :tu

[RD2191]

It's fucking hilarious that a certain demographic was celebrating and thinks this one ruling changes anything. It won't you'll still get shot in the street. And the cops will walk. This was just a special case where they couldn't find a way to cover it up.

Bend over, I'll shoot you in the street.

[DarrinS]

So Guyger is in custody now. Wonder if she tries to Epstein herself tonight.

Why would the Clintons care about her?

[baseline bum]

Why would the Clintons care about her?

OK Cosmored

[DMC]

She'll get 20 years.

[Millennial_Messiah]

It's fucking hilarious that a certain demographic was celebrating and thinks this one ruling changes anything. It won't you'll still get shot in the street. And the cops will walk. This was just a special case where they couldn't find a way to cover it up.

They couldn't cover it up because she committed home invasion (albeit, apartment) breaking and entering in addition to the killing. I think some evidence of her being racist was presented in court as well.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Why would the Clintons care about her?

:wow :toast :lol 9.5/10 sir

[spurraider21]

Author of Texas 'Castle Doctrine' self-defense law says it wasn't designed for defendants like Amber Guyger (https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-texas-castle-doctrine-defense-law-designed-defendants/story?id=65978174)

[benefactor]

She'll get 20 years.
About what I was thinking tbh

[Blake]

Author of Texas 'Castle Doctrine' self-defense law says it wasn't designed for defendants like Amber Guyger (https://abcnews.go.com/US/author-texas-castle-doctrine-defense-law-designed-defendants/story?id=65978174)






If only he'd had a gun instead of an ice cream spoon.

Although I've heard it's possible to kill multiple people with a spoon.

[Spurminator]

If only he'd had a gun instead of an ice cream spoon.

He'd be facing Capital Murder for killing a cop while black.

[Reck]

Some of the texts released today shows what she was all about.


-“When does this end lol,” read a text to Guyger, to which she responded, “When MLK is dead… oh wait…”
-“Just push them… or spray your pepper spray in that general area.”
-“Although she may be racist,” the dog’s owner messaged Guyger.

She goes on to say;

-“It’s okay,” Guyger replied. “I’m the same.”
-“Damn I was at this area with 5 different black officers!!!,”
-“Not racist but damn,” he responded.
-“Not racist but just have a different way of working and it shows,” she replied.
-“Stay low, go fast; kill first, die last; one shot, one kill; no luck, all skill.”

Then she finishes the conversation with this gem:


“I wear all black to remind you not to mess with me, because I’m already dressed for your funeral.”

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/texas-cop-murdered-black-man-143208798.html

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyrwMOakZ3c

[spurraider21]

personally i dont think this stuff should carry much weight in sentencing. not like she sat there for a few seconds and processed the situation, thought "hm, this dudes black, i should kill him"

[resistanze]

10 years, she'll get paroled in 5. Pretty much expected imo

[Spurminator]

personally i dont think this stuff should carry much weight in sentencing. not like she sat there for a few seconds and processed the situation, thought "hm, this dudes black, i should kill him"

I'm not so sure. A lot of white cops have been conditioned to fear violence by BLM or other supposedly anti-cop groups. I wouldn't be surprised at all if seeing a black man in an apartment she thought was hers caused her to immediately react as if he was a threat, where seeing a white guy might have registered more as confusion or prompted a less immediate reaction of "self defense."

[baseline bum]

10 years, she'll get paroled in 5. Pretty much expected imo

Pretty much what I called a couple of pages back. I think it's a reasonable sentence given this wasn't a premeditated murder.

[boutons_deux]

When is sentencing?

[Spurminator]

When is sentencing?

30 minutes ago

[spurraider21]

5-10 seemed reasonable given all the circumstances imo.

this is also why i thought it was weird people were very concerned about the charge being murder and not manslaughter. mitigating factors come into play during sentencing. the people that wanted the charge to be manslaughter probably assumed this would be the sentence anyway

[Blake]

5-10 seemed reasonable given all the circumstances imo.

this is also why i thought it was weird people were very concerned about the charge being murder and not manslaughter. mitigating factors come into play during sentencing. the people that wanted the charge to be manslaughter probably assumed this would be the sentence anyway

Well maybe people think manslaughter might look better than murder on the next job application

[resistanze]

Pretty much what I called a couple of pages back. I think it's a reasonable sentence given this wasn't a premeditated murder.

Yeah I was OK with anything between 10-20 years, given she'll likely be given parole at first opportunity half through (so really 5-10). She got lucky to get on the lighter side of the sentence.

[boutons_deux]

prosecutors introduced text messages sent by the former officer that show her making offensive statements.

In the texts, Guyger

jokes about Martin Luther King Jr.’s death,

mocks her black colleagues and

discusses a dog that her friend warns

“may be racist.”

“It’s okay.. I’m the same,”

Guyger wrote back about the dog, just days before she fatally shot 26-year-old Botham Jean in his Dallas apartment on Sept. 6, 2018.

One minute later, she texted again: “I hate everything and everyone but y’all.”

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/10/02/amber-guyger-text-messages-emerge-sentencing-trial/ (https://www.texastribune.org/2019/10/02/amber-guyger-text-messages-emerge-sentencing-trial/)

DPD has great vetting procedures, only racists need apply

[spurraider21]

Well maybe people think manslaughter might look better than murder on the next job application
manslaughter sounds much worse tbh :lol

[resistanze]

:lol at victims brother going on stand saying God loves you and I forgive you, I wish you weren't going to jail. His family better disown him tbh

[Reck]

Either way, she's finished and janitorial work is in her future immediately upon release.

[Trill Clinton]

:lol at victims brother going on stand saying God loves you and I forgive you, I wish you weren't going to jail. His family better disown him tbh

black people are the most forgiving race of people. shoot up our churches, we forgive you. kill our brother eating ice cream in his house, we forgive you. smh.

[boutons_deux]

Legal Analysts ‘Insulted’ and ‘Disappointed’ by Amber Guyger’s Lenient Ten Year Sentence

former Assistant U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia Gene Rossi said that ten years was far too lenient for Guyger,

calling the jury’s sentencing decision insulting.

I know people who committed tax crimes who got more than 10 years.

I know non-violent drug dealers that got more than 10 years.

This jury found that she intentionally took the life of a helpless man who was 26-years-old. I am offended.

I was predicting maybe 30 or 40 years.

If I’m Amber Guyger I’m popping the champagne.”

Law&Crime Legal Analyst and civil rights trial attorney Katherine Smith said she expected a longer sentence, particularly in light of the
evidence the prosecution introduced during Guyger’s sentencing hearing.

“I’m scratching my head. I don’t get it,” Smith said,

“especially since we know there were some underlying biases that the defendant had.

I don’t get it.”

the sentence was a clear “win” for Guyger, whose attorneys did not appear to be on top of their game.

“It’s a win for the defense given all of their missteps,”

Guyger joked about the death of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.,

and made racially incendiary remarks about black police officers,

saying they have a “different way of working.”

The prosecution had urged the jury to return a sentence of no less than 28 years.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/legal-analysts-insulted-and-disappointed-by-amber-guygers-lenient-ten-year-sentence/ (https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/legal-analysts-insulted-and-disappointed-by-amber-guygers-lenient-ten-year-sentence/)

[pgardn]

black people are the most forgiving race of people. shoot up our churches, we forgive you. kill our brother eating ice cream in his house, we forgive you. smh.

Large % of Black Americans are Christian.
And I guess they really mean it.

[resistanze]

black people are the most forgiving race of people. shoot up our churches, we forgive you. kill our brother eating ice cream in his house, we forgive you. smh.

that White Jesus bruh :lol

[baseline bum]

Either way, she's finished and janitorial work is in her future immediately upon release.

She's gonna be the old stripper on the Tuesday afternoon shift. Millennial Messiah will be thrilled.

[RD2191]

So a black life is worth 10 years in America. :tu

[baseline bum]

So a black life is worth 10 year in America. :tu

Five with parole.

[baseline bum]

that White Jesus bruh :lol

:lmao

[RD2191]

Five with parole.

Just wow. Smh.

[RD2191]

I have a feeling we haven't heard the last of this bitch. Tbh

[Pavlov]

I have a feeling we haven't heard the last of this bitch. TbhOAN's law enforcement correspondent.

[baseline bum]

I have a feeling we haven't heard the last of this bitch. Tbh

I'll buy her porn blu-ray in five years. Gonna be funny watching her take Lex Steele tbh.

[RD2191]

I'll buy her porn blu-ray in five years. Gonna be funny watching her take Lex Steele tbh.

:lmao she should at least be sentenced to a couple of scenes on blacked:lmao

[Trill Clinton]

Large % of Black Americans are Christian.
And I guess they really mean it.

True but we never get that same forgiveness in return from our fellow so called Christians.

[boutons_deux]

I think blacks know damn well, at least subliminally, they can't make any progress against White Male Supremacy brutality, so "forgiving" at least gives them comfort, but not hope. 400 years

[resistanze]

True but we never get that same forgiveness in return from our fellow so called Christians.

Don't think I heard anyone from the murderer's family/camp even apologize on the stand. I thought that would work against them in sentencing. The last thing I'm doing is fuking forgiving her on the stand. Just embarrassing.

[baseline bum]

:lmao she should at least be sentenced to a couple of scenes on blacked:lmao

Who else is going to hire her?

[spurraider21]

:lol at victims brother going on stand saying God loves you and I forgive you, I wish you weren't going to jail. His family better disown him tbh
i can see it tbh... i think the facts are clear that she didnt have any intent to kill that night. there was no malice. and on a philosophical level, the punitive value of incarceration is arguably completely useless. how does society benefit from somebody who is otherwise not a threat to the public to be sitting behind bars for an extended period of time if there is clear remorse and was never intent to begin with.

i think her overall story is believable. its just not excusable in the eyes of the law

[boutons_deux]

Who else is going to hire her?

county sheriff, somewhere

[resistanze]

i can see it tbh... i think the facts are clear that she didnt have any intent to kill that night. there was no malice. and on a philosophical level, the punitive value of incarceration is arguably completely useless. how does society benefit from somebody who is otherwise not a threat to the public to be sitting behind bars for an extended period of time if there is clear remorse and was never intent to begin with.

i think her overall story is believable. its just not excusable in the eyes of the law

I mean I bet most drunk drivers that kill families can fit in that category. They all think they can make it home, it's just a 10 min ride. It's not good enough imo.

Maybe I'd be open to that reasoning if she pleaded guilty, but her plea and defense (and lies to support her story) don't add up to sufficient remorse for me.

[spurraider21]

I mean I bet most drunk drivers that kill families can fit in that category. They all think they can make it home, it's just a 10 min ride. It's not good enough imo.

Maybe I'd be open to that reasoning if she pleaded guilty, but her plea and defense (and lies to support her story) don't add up to sufficient remorse for me.
i mean she admitted to going into the wrong apartment and shooting/killing the guy. i dont blame her for pleading not guilty because she thought those circumstances could have persuaded a jury to let her off the hook.

i realize we have a penal system and incarceration is our go-so solution... i think DUI is much more repeatable than inadvertently walking into the wrong apartment and killing someone. different crimes have different recidivism rates. property (theft) and drug offenses show higher rates of repeat offense than violent crimes, for instance. and then you take the circumstances into consideration. this wasnt gang violence, which is a life style thing that somebody is particularly susceptible to falling back into

im not even making it specific to this case, but generally, throwing people in prison for prolonged periods of time often times isn't really serving in the public interest, unless there is legitimate concern that the convict is going to repeat his behavior and endanger others. i mean i'd even say the same for DUIs that end in killings. even a year of sitting in prison, going through the criminal process gives the convict plenty of time to reflect, feel legitimate remorse, etc. what is an extra 2 years going to accomplish? they're better off being in counseling tbh

[resistanze]

i mean she admitted to going into the wrong apartment and shooting/killing the guy. i dont blame her for pleading not guilty because she thought those circumstances could have persuaded a jury to let her off the hook.

i realize we have a penal system and incarceration is our go-so solution... i think DUI is much more repeatable than inadvertently walking into the wrong apartment and killing someone. different crimes have different recidivism rates. property (theft) and drug offenses show higher rates of repeat offense than violent crimes, for instance. and then you take the circumstances into consideration. this wasnt gang violence, which is a life style thing that somebody is particularly susceptible to falling back into

im not even making it specific to this case, but generally, throwing people in prison for prolonged periods of time often times isn't really serving in the public interest, unless there is legitimate concern that the convict is going to repeat his behavior and endanger others. i mean i'd even say the same for DUIs that end in killings. even a year of sitting in prison, going through the criminal process gives the convict plenty of time to reflect, feel legitimate remorse, etc. what is an extra 2 years going to accomplish? they're better off being in counseling tbh

Oh I agree with a lot of this in principle but she's def not the poster child for issues with mass incarceration in this country tbh, with so many people rotting in cells for non-violent offenses. Her case is much less sympathetic, especially for reasons you highlighted in this thread about the standard she should be held to.

[spurraider21]

Oh I agree with a lot of this in principle but she's def not the poster child for issues with mass incarceration in this country tbh, with so many people rotting in cells for non-violent offenses. Her case is much less sympathetic, especially for reasons you highlighted in this thread about the standard she should be held to.
i'd definitely agree that non-violent offenders would the the priority... im just sayin i dont think a 20+ year sentence for guyger wouldnt do anybody any good

[DMC]

black people are the most forgiving race of people. shoot up our churches, we forgive you. kill our brother eating ice cream in his house, we forgive you. smh.

Especially after the verdict.

[DMC]

:lol at victims brother going on stand saying God loves you and I forgive you, I wish you weren't going to jail. His family better disown him tbh

You have to admit that girl would be his best chance at a white piece of ass, like right there in front of the court.

[resistanze]

You have to admit that girl would be his best chance at a white piece of ass, like right there in front of the court.

:lol this was probably his reason tbh

[pgardn]

You have to admit that girl would be his best chance at a white piece of ass, like right there in front of the court.

Yuck.

He can do much better than that.

[pgardn]

True but we never get that same forgiveness in return from our fellow so called Christians.

With Christians like Chris... no argument.

[Pavlov]

Yuck.

He can do much better than that.:lol no shit. White women aren't that difficult to get.

[DMC]

Yeah you sure did walk the fence when asked your opinion here, sideliner.

Why would I have an opinion? Do you need to take sides on issues you have no fucking clue about? Just watch the game and shut up.

[DMC]

:lol no shit. White women aren't that difficult to get.

:lmao
:lmao
:lmao
:lmao
:lmao
:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Pavlov]

Apparently very difficult for DMC.

Sorry, dude.

[ducks]

Either way, she's finished and janitorial work is in her future immediately upon release.

she make more as an escort

[ducks]

:lol no shit. White women aren't that difficult to get.

What is your excuse then ?

[spurraider21]

What is your excuse then ?
your wife was tired tonight

[Winehole23]

No need to take a side. Its not a team sport, dummy.It's disingenuous to feign you never took a side, tbh.

[Pavlov]

It's disingenuous to feign you never took a side, tbh.To be fair, he bookended his takes with interracial sex fantasies.

[ElNono]

your wife was tired tonight

https://i.gifer.com/DBgl.gif

[MultiTroll]

Yup
Blake, anyone what do you think of the judge handing Amber Guyger a bible in court while on duty?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/you-start-with-this-judge-tammy-kemp-gives-amber-guyger-a-bible-after-sentencing/ar-AAIcJaz?ocid=spartanntp

'You start with this': Judge Tammy Kemp gives Amber Guyger a Bible after sentencing

[Blake]

Blake, anyone what do you think of the judge handing Amber Guyger a bible in court while on duty?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/you-start-with-this-judge-tammy-kemp-gives-amber-guyger-a-bible-after-sentencing/ar-AAIcJaz?ocid=spartanntp

'You start with this': Judge Tammy Kemp gives Amber Guyger a Bible after sentencing


I'm kinda fine with the judge handing her a Bible for something to read in jail.

I have a bit of a problem with the judge hugging her tho. I get the judge is human with some empathy but time and place.

[MultiTroll]

I'm kinda fine with the judge handing her a Bible for something to read in jail.

I have a bit of a problem with the judge hugging her tho. I get the judge is human with some empathy but time and place.
I'm the same "time and place" but with the bible.
Shouldn't be mixing church and state on court time. Judge wants to give her one on her own time, fine.

Just as I don't want her handing her a "The Great Dust Spect" book, likewise fairness would be no bible handing either.

[boutons_deux]

Judge gives Bibles and hugs to all convicts?

or just this one white female racist ex-cop?

[Spurminator]

I find it difficult to be angry about anything that transpired in that courtroom over the past two days, but we are addicted to righteous anger.

The statement from the brother was just gutting. Incredibly moving.

[SnakeBoy]

lol Did not foresee this becoming a triggered atheist thread

[Blake]

lol Did not foresee this becoming a triggered atheist thread

Fabbs isn't atheist

[SnakeBoy]

The healing power of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in action

1179582194219663360

[Pavlov]

Christ trolling?

Whatever floats your boat, I guess.

[Blake]

Reverse triggered

[DMC]

It's disingenuous to feign you never took a side, tbh.

I am always on the side of justice.

[Kim Jong-il]

It's disingenuous to feign you never took a side, tbh.
But that’s his gimmick

[InRareForm]

Soooo bizarre that everyone was giving her a hug. The judge, the baliff, the brother. She is a murderer , why did that happen?? The brother giving her a hug was powerful but did everyone else have to do it? Unheard of

The brother saying I don't even want you to go to jail.


WTF !

[Bynumite]

Negroes and their undying love for white broads :lol

The bitch needed to be hunt down and tortured law abiding citizen style, not a fucking hug.

[resistanze]

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/10/05/joshua-brown-killed-dallas-atera-apartments-witness-amber-guyger-trial/

[DMC]

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/10/05/joshua-brown-killed-dallas-atera-apartments-witness-amber-guyger-trial/

Former athlete turned entrepreneur..

Any guesses on that?

[Trill Clinton]

Former athlete turned entrepreneur..

Any guesses on that?


barbershop owner, food truck owner, landscaping business. What are you thinking?

[Blake]

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/10/05/joshua-brown-killed-dallas-atera-apartments-witness-amber-guyger-trial/

I guess if you don't think to ask for witness protection that's on you? Jeez

[Winehole23]

Former athlete turned entrepreneur..

Any guesses on that?
Slain by racists for putting a racist cop in the hoosegow.

What's your guess?

[Winehole23]

Dp

[AaronY]

Soooo bizarre that everyone was giving her a hug. The judge, the baliff, the brother. She is a murderer , why did that happen?? The brother giving her a hug was powerful but did everyone else have to do it? Unheard of

The brother saying I don't even want you to go to jail.


WTF !
made these guys on twitter happy

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGJob4qVAAA0QYZ?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Trainwreck2100]

Former athlete turned entrepreneur..

Any guesses on that?

i would guess that any shady shit would have been brought up at trial by her lawyers. The only guesses are, were they cops or racists that ambushed his ass

[DMC]

barbershop owner, food truck owner, landscaping business. What are you thinking?

Thinking you're due for new avatar.

[DMC]

i would guess that any shady shit would have been brought up at trial by her lawyers. The only guesses are, were they cops or racists that ambushed his ass

That seems like some club related shit to me.

[Winehole23]

That seems like some club related shit to me.Joshua Brown was shot in the mouth.

[DMC]

Slain by racists for putting a racist cop in the hoosegow.

What's your guess?

So you have made up your mind on it without a second of investigation.

Good to know you're a rational person.

[Winehole23]

So you have made up your mind on it without a second of investigation.

Good to know you're a rational person.Guesses were solicited. Do you have one?

[Winehole23]

Dp

[DMC]

Joshua Brown was shot in the mouth.

Witnesses say in the buttocks and side according to Lee Merritt.

I'd guess he was either at a party or club and pissed some people off, they followed him and killed him when he got out of his vehicle. How many racist rednecks do you see driving silver sedans?

Can't rule it out, but why jump straight to the Netflix level narrative? :lol

[Winehole23]

Just because there's no evidence for a guess doesn't mean it's irrational, silly man.

Are you starting to get a nosebleed on your very tall throne of dispassionate priggishness?

[DMC]

Guesses were solicited. Do you have one?

Not about the murder. I asked about the "athlete turned entrepreneur" angle. What does he do for a living? That might give more of a hint as to the motive.

[DMC]

Just because there's no evidence for a guess doesn't mean it's irrational, silly man.

Are you starting to get a nosebleed on your very tall throne of dispassionate priggishness?

You jump straight to "racist" as a motive when the large majority of black men are killed by other black men for non-racist motives. Since he was in a high profile case, he was seen by a lot of people. It's possible someone was after him already.

[Winehole23]

Not about the murder. I asked about the "athlete turned entrepreneur" angle. What does he do for a living? That might give more of a hint as to the motive.Right, but there's a knowable motive staring you right in the face.

You have no evidence based reason to dismiss it, why do you dismiss it?

[Winehole23]

In a nearly evidence free scenario, why do you privilege a hypothetical motive over one we clearly know: Joshua Brown put a cop in prison for murder.

[boutons_deux]

whatever that means, Joshua Brown was known to have been "managing" several AirBnB rentals in several cities.

getting shot in the mouth?

held down and gun-dick raping his mouth while killer(s) told him he shouldn't have ratted out a DPD cop?

[DMC]

Right, but there's a knowable motive staring you right in the face.

You have no evidence based reason to dismiss it, why do you dismiss it?

There are a lot of possible motives. Racist retribution for simply testifying against a cop isn't the most plausible theory, with all options still on the table. I guess if that's your currently held worldview though you will automatically place the race card.

[Winehole23]

What is the most plausible theory, right now?

[Winehole23]

That seems like some club related shit to me.This and saying we need to know more about Joshua Brown's lifestyle is you playing the race card, tbh.

[DMC]

In a nearly evidence free scenario, why do you privilege a hypothetical motive over one we clearly know: Joshua Brown put a cop in prison for murder.

So she would have walked if not for him saying he heard gunshots? She admitted to wanting to kill him, there was no question she did kill him, no question he wasn't in possession of a firearm, no question she was in the wrong apartment (her defense).

Again you make a huge leap that Brown was the catalyst.

Here's the reason I say it was most likely club or gang related:

https://i.imgur.com/4WauHqm.jpg

Statistical probability heavily favors gang related killing, or an altercation at a party or club... maybe over a female.

[DMC]

This and saying we need to need more about Joshua Brown's lifestyle is you playing the race card, tbh.

Only if you're looking through your Al Sharpton glasses as yours seem glued to your face.

If his business is a barbershop owner, maybe an ex employee shot him. You never know without knowing more about the victim.

That's only if you're a rational person who doesn't jump to irrational conclusions based on bias and a touch of mental retardation.

[Winehole23]

Oh, it must've been a club related beef then.

[boutons_deux]

"he was a roofing contractor for a few years after graduating from college and

now he’s been running a business managing AirBNBs,

including two in Los Angeles and one in Atlanta.

He was working on getting another AirBNB in Dallas."

https://heavy.com/news/2019/10/joshua-brown-shooting/ (https://heavy.com/news/2019/10/joshua-brown-shooting/)

Obviously, for the ST racists, JB's AirBnB stuff was a cover for gang/drug/whore/child-trafficking/pimp businesses.

[Winehole23]

Lol DMC teasing wild conclusions about Joshua Brown and calling others irrational for pointing out the obvious.

[DMC]

Oh, it must've been a club related beef then.

Your all or nothing bifurcation method fails so often, its no wonder you have avalanches of consecutive brain droppings as you wrestle with your inner voices.

[DMC]

"he was a roofing contractor for a few years after graduating from college and

now he’s been running a business managing AirBNBs,

including two in Los Angeles and one in Atlanta.

He was working on getting another AirBNB in Dallas."

https://heavy.com/news/2019/10/joshua-brown-shooting/ (https://heavy.com/news/2019/10/joshua-brown-shooting/)

Obviously, for the ST racists, JB's AirBnB stuff was a cover for gang/drug/whore/child-trafficking/pimp businesses.





Stats don't lie. If you don't like the stats, that's too bad.

If you find out it was based on continuation of a club altercation, will you comment or will you just continue puking out your crazy ass links and articles?

[DMC]

Lol DMC teasing wild conclusions about Joshua Brown and calling others irrational for pointing out the obvious.

You made the conclusion already. It was a group of rednecks in a silver sedan, no doubt wearing MAGA hats and carrying bleach.

Didn't you learn anything with the Smollett shit? You shit yourself there too.

[Winehole23]

It's a guess, man. Based on limited info. My mind isn't made up about anything.

Btw, you left an embarrassing skidmark.

[DMC]

It's a guess, man. Based on limited info. My mind isn't made up about anything.

Btw, you left an embarrassing skidmark.

So your guess isn't based on statistics or reason.

If this was retribution for the trial, what does race have to do with it? You brought "racist" into the mix.

[Winehole23]

So your guess isn't based on statistics or reason.

If this was retribution for the trial, what does race have to do with it? You brought "racist" into the mix.Yeah I did.

You got a problem with that? As long as we're just speculating about who would want to kill a black man who put a cop in prison and broke the prevalent pattern of police impunity for killing unarmed blacks, not sure it makes much sense to exclude a racial motive

Why do you want to exclude it?

[DMC]

Yeah I did.

You got a problem with that? As long as we're just speculating about who would want to kill a black man who put a cop in prison and broke the prevalent pattern of police impunity for killing unarmed blacks, not sure it makes much sense to exclude a racial motive

Why do you want to exclude it?

So was it racism or retribution? You give two completely different motives for killing him.

Since you've already decided that whatever reason existed for someone to kill this young man has to be coupled with racism, what if you find out the shooter was black or Hispanic? Will you then play another word salad post spree game and pretend you didn't actually say that?

If it's discovered that this was based on a skirmish, many like you will create a new narrative of a cover up. Either way you'll try to feel right about your initial comments, made with zero evidence.

[Winehole23]

False dilemma.

It can be racism and retribution at the same time.

Demanding that spitballing be corroborated by evidence is absurd. Seems you're having a hard time seeing the frame here.

[DMC]

False dilemma.

It can be racism and retribution at the same time.

Demanding that spitballing be corroborated by evidence is absurd. Seems you're having a hard time seeing the frame here.

It can also be gang related, racism, retribution, lover's spat and mistaken identity all at the same time. Let's not limit it to two.

No one asked for your spitballing but you seem to offer it at every turn.

By now anyone reading already knows you think it was based on racism or some SJW narrative. Why posit it?

[Winehole23]

forum cop disdains spitballing -- while spitballing!

[DMC]

forum cop disdains spitballing -- while spitballing!

I leaned on the stats that I even posted. You just relied on your awkward social bend.

[Winehole23]

I don't need your invitation or anyone else's to post anything. It's an open forum, even for stuffy prigs like you.

[Winehole23]

I leaned on the stats that I even posted. You just relied on your awkward social bend.You leaned on stats that have no demonstrable connection to this case.

Nice work, profe!

Better hope hard no one sees the category error, but then again, maybe you're just pandering to dummies.

[Blake]

So she would have walked if not for him saying he heard gunshots? She admitted to wanting to kill him, there was no question she did kill him, no question he wasn't in possession of a firearm, no question she was in the wrong apartment (her defense).

Again you make a huge leap that Brown was the catalyst.

Here's the reason I say it was most likely club or gang related:

https://i.imgur.com/4WauHqm.jpg

Statistical probability heavily favors gang related killing, or an altercation at a party or club... maybe over a female.

DMC is determined to show this murder had nothing to do with him being a witness

[Winehole23]

DMC is determined to show this murder had nothing to do with him being a witnessSOUNDS LIKE SOME CLUB RELATED SHIT

[ElNono]

AFAIK, there's not enough information now to ascertain whether it was trial related or not. What's potentially concerning is the Dallas PD handling this case. Should probably be handed over to the FBI. Not because the Dallas PD is incompetent, but because there's a clear possibility a bad apple might be involved (again, unknown at this time).

[Pavlov]

I leaned on the stats that I even posted. You just relied on your awkward social bend.Upon what stats were you leaning when you said Botham was fucking Guyger and his brother wanted to fuck Guyger?

[benefactor]

Witness who help convict shot and killed. Welp.

[Trill Clinton]

i thought dmc was was being genuine, silly me. dude was race baiting the entire time smh.

[DMC]

DMC is determined to show this murder had nothing to do with him being a witness

You kill a witness before they testify. Afterward it's pointless, unless you paid them to say something and now you don't want them telling anyone, or they got on the stand and didn't say what you paid them to say.

That's some Netflix level, continue the series level shit. The less exciting version is what I initially suggested as support by the data.

[Chucho]

:rollin

In b4:

Conspiracy theories good now.

[spurraider21]

You kill a witness before they testify. Afterward it's pointless, unless you paid them to say something and now you don't want them telling anyone, or they got on the stand and didn't say what you paid them to say.

That's some Netflix level, continue the series level shit. The less exciting version is what I initially suggested as support by the data.
is the concept of retaliation lost on you?

[DMC]

is the concept of retaliation lost on you?

Racist retaliation? Why wasn't the prosecutor targeted?

[spurraider21]

Racist retaliation? Why wasn't the prosecutor targeted?
Easier target? I just don’t see why you’d rule it out off hand. Of course we don’t have much information either way right now.

[DMC]

Easier target? I just don’t see why you’d rule it out off hand. Of course we don’t have much information either way right now.

So the prosecutor never gets out of his vehicle?

I don't rule it out. I just don't go there 1st like others here did.

[DMC]

Witnesses say in the buttocks and side according to Lee Merritt.

I'd guess he was either at a party or club and pissed some people off, they followed him and killed him when he got out of his vehicle. How many racist rednecks do you see driving silver sedans?

Can't rule it out, but why jump straight to the Netflix level narrative? :lol


Easier target? I just don’t see why you’d rule it out off hand. Of course we don’t have much information either way right now.

:lol

[DMC]

Andre Emmett comes to mind tbh

[spurraider21]

So the prosecutor never gets out of his vehicle?
people who are willing to commit a murder to make a statement are rarely the most logical people around. you'd have to ask them. i'd still say a random dude is likely an easier target than a prosecutor particularly coming off a high profile case


I don't rule it out. I just don't go there 1st like others here did.
the timing of it, and the heavy attention the guyger trial got make it not seem that far-fetched.

[Spurminator]

I mean you're all kind of right. Chances are it's unrelated to the case, but it's also a huge coincidence, and DPD's investigation of this murder should be closely watched.

[DMC]

people who are willing to commit a murder to make a statement are rarely the most logical people around. you'd have to ask them. i'd still say a random dude is likely an easier target than a prosecutor particularly coming off a high profile case


the timing of it, and the heavy attention the guyger trial got make it not seem that far-fetched.

Last November, Brown was shot and another man killed outside a strip club called the Dallas Cabaret on Walnut Ridge Street in Northwest Dallas.

Kendall Deshonn Morris has been indicted on a charge of murder and an aggravated assault in connection with the incident. He is currently out on bond.

[DMC]

Damn it got quiet as fuck up in here

[spurraider21]

Damn it got quiet as fuck up in here
thank god you weren't taking sides

[spurraider21]

dp

[DMC]

thank god you weren't taking sides

That's all you got?

[Blake]

Here's the reason I say it was most likely club or gang related:

https://i.imgur.com/4WauHqm.jpg

Statistical probability heavily favors gang related killing, or an altercation at a party or club... maybe over a female.

Lol "statistical probability"

Where on that chart does it say gangs or night clubs?

[Winehole23]

thank god you weren't taking sidesOh but he did take a side: aggregate crime data against a specific case and against the known circumstances of the case.

For some reason, he seems to think aggregate data will be predictive for this case, or trumps all other surmises. Because he says so, naturally.

[spurraider21]

Oh but he did take a side: aggregate crime data against a specific case and against the known circumstances of the case.

For some reason, he seems to think aggregate data will be predictive foe this case, or bests all other surmises.
based on crime rates the murder probably happened in chicago

[Winehole23]

based on crime rates the murder probably happened in chicagoSOUNDS LIKE SOME CLUB RELATED SHIT.

[Winehole23]

Damn it got quiet as fuck up in here
There's only so much to be said about the giant skidmark you left in this thread.

[Reck]

Maybe the guy's family who just got shot in the mouth and chest can go hug the perpetrator too.

Anyone who doesn't think this is related or at the very least suspect is just plain blind.

[DMC]

Oh but he did take a side: aggregate crime data against a specific case and against the known circumstances of the case.

For some reason, he seems to think aggregate data will be predictive for this case, or trumps all other surmises. Because he says so, naturally.


based on crime rates the murder probably happened in chicago


SOUNDS LIKE SOME CLUB RELATED SHIT.


There's only so much to be said about the giant skidmark you left in this thread.

So this is meaningless to you?


Last November, Brown was shot and another man killed outside a strip club called the Dallas Cabaret on Walnut Ridge Street in Northwest Dallas.

Kendall Deshonn Morris has been indicted on a charge of murder and an aggravated assault in connection with the incident. He is currently out on bond.

Or are you two just pretending it doesn't exist? You don't think this "out on bond" guy has any motive to kill someone who he meant to kill in the 1st place, and who can testify against him?

[Winehole23]

So this is meaningless to you?



Or are you two just pretending it doesn't exist? You don't think this "out on bond" guy has any motive to kill someone who he meant to kill in the 1st place, and who can testify against him?oh he was shot somewhere else so it must be his fault this time too.

[Winehole23]

You know, like you presume it was his fault last time.

[DMC]

Lol "statistical probability"

Where on that chart does it say gangs or night clubs?


Last November, Brown was shot and another man killed outside a strip club called the Dallas Cabaret on Walnut Ridge Street in Northwest Dallas.

Kendall Deshonn Morris has been indicted on a charge of murder and an aggravated assault in connection with the incident. He is currently out on bond.

I know you're naive Blake, but this isn't rocket science.

[Winehole23]

Lol data

[DMC]

oh he was shot somewhere else so it must be his fault this time too.

Who said it was his fault either way? You're shitty at creating false narratives. Try harder. You're a fraud intellectual e-peener.