*** Official ST NFL Pick 'em Thread for 2018 NFL Season ***

[JohnnyD]

Just do it the rest of the way in this thread to prove your "expertise".

I plan on it.

[Darth_Pelican]

Well I do have 8 weeks to prove it.

Week 10

Steelers
Bears
Saints
Falcons
Packers
Colts
Chiefs
Jets
Redskins
Pats
Chargers
Rams
Eagles
Niners

Every single one of those picks are the Vegas favorite. Every single one. It doesn’t take a fucking expert to pick every team that is favored to win.

[JohnnyD]

Every single one of those picks are the Vegas favorite. Every single one. It doesn’t take a fucking expert to pick every team that is favored to win.

Thing is I haven't looked at the betting line yet.

Now look at points scored/points given up, and home/road records. So what dog will win SU?

Break down where I went wrong, love to see it.

Go back to the beginning of this thread and check out my week one picks.

[Robz4000]

11-3 this week, 78-41-2 on the season.

8-5 this week, 86-46-2 this season.

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 9 Picks:

Raiders
Bears
Chiefs
Dolphins
Vikings
Redskins
Panthers
Ravens
Texans
Chargers
Saints
Patriots
Titans

10-3

86-46-2

[spurraider21]

11-3 this week

73-44-2 overall
10-3 this week

83-47-2 overall

[JohnnyD]

Sam Darnold out vs Bills, just sayin'.

[Robz4000]

Steelers
Bears
Saints
Falcons
Patriots
Colts
Chiefs
Jets
Buccaneers
Chargers
Packers
Rams
Eagles
Niners

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 10 Picks:

Steelers
Saints
Lions
Falcons
Patriots
Colts
Chiefs
Jets
Redskins
Chargers
Packers
Rams
Eagles
Giants

[spurraider21]

Steelers
Saints
Falcons
Packers
Colts
Bears
Chiefs
Cheatriots
Bucs
Jets
Raiders (cant stop wont stop)
Rams
Eagles
Giants

[JohnnyD]

Steelers tonight, need to rethink my original picks, meaning...check the injury report. I jumped the gun.

Looking forward to seeing James Conner tonight, his size/speed combo classic Steeler RB.

Christian McCaffrey needs more out in space plays.

When have we seen two bigger QB's in the same game?

Getting back to the Steelers

Stold this.

In between, the Steelers have won 10 consecutive primetime games. Counting the postseason, they have won their past 12 games that kicked off after 7 p.m.
Five days after extending their “Monday Night Football” winning streak to six with a 30-27 win at Tampa Bay, the Steelers look to make it 10 in a row in Sunday night games when they face the Ravens at 8:20 p.m.

They lost that game, so 12-1. Losing two prime time games at home back to back, I can't see it.

Since 2006 the Panthers are 1-5 on TNF. That gives the Steelers a nice 17-2 trend.

[Millennial_Messiah]

CAR @ PIT

NO @ CIN
ATL @ CLE
DET @ CHI
AZ @ KC
NE @ TEN
WAS @ TB
BUF @ NYJ
JAX @ IND
SD @ OAK
SEA @ LAR
MIA @ GB
DAL @ PHI

NYG @ SF

[chunticakes]

Steelers tonight, need to rethink my original picks, meaning...check the injury report. I jumped the gun.

Looking forward to seeing James Conner tonight, his size/speed combo classic Steeler RB.

Christian McCaffrey needs more out in space plays.

When have we seen two bigger QB's in the same game?

Getting back to the Steelers

Stold this.

In between, the Steelers have won 10 consecutive primetime games. Counting the postseason, they have won their past 12 games that kicked off after 7 p.m.
Five days after extending their “Monday Night Football” winning streak to six with a 30-27 win at Tampa Bay, the Steelers look to make it 10 in a row in Sunday night games when they face the Ravens at 8:20 p.m.

They lost that game, so 12-1. Losing two prime time games at home back to back, I can't see it.

Since 2006 the Panthers are 1-5 on TNF. That gives the Steelers a nice 17-2 trend.

Steelers -4.5

[JohnnyD]

Steelers -4.5

Opened up at -4, so some public action on the Steelers.

These TNF games have strongly favored the home teams from an ATS perspective.

Only play is lay the points or pass.

Road dogs on TNF not strong plays.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Week 1: 11-4-1
Week 2: 11-4-1
Week 3: 7-8
Week 4: 12-3
Week 5: 11-4
Week 6: 10-5
Week 7: 11-3
Week 8: 11-2
Week 9: 8-4

Season: 92-37-2

I pick the Steelers for tonight.

The rest of picks will come later

[Millennial_Messiah]

Opened up at -4, so some public action on the Steelers.

These TNF games have strongly favored the home teams from an ATS perspective.

Only play is lay the points or pass.

Road dogs on TNF not strong plays.

even the fucking Browns won at home on TNF :lol

[JohnnyD]

even the fucking Browns won at home on TNF :lol

TNF is ridiculous, what a stupid idea.

Carolina wasn't ready to play and it was so obvious. Guys still not right from Sunday but forced to get out there. I put nothing into this game, no the Steelers aren't that good and the Panthers that bad.

[Millennial_Messiah]

TNF is ridiculous, what a stupid idea.

Carolina wasn't ready to play and it was so obvious. Guys still not right from Sunday but forced to get out there. I put nothing into this game, no the Steelers aren't that good and the Panthers that bad.
Steelers ARE that good, Panthers aren't that bad.

[JohnnyD]

Steelers ARE that good, Panthers aren't that bad.

I talk "spots" where one team has a load of stats/trends favoring them in that "spot". We saw a great example of that last night. The Steelers are one of the great prime time teams while the Panthers are not. The Panthers had gone 1-5 last 6 on TNF, while the Steelers had gone 12-1 last 13 prime time. I do put a lot into situations.

Yes the Steelers are great, but not 52 points great.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I talk "spots" where one team has a load of stats/trends favoring them in that "spot". We saw a great example of that last night. The Steelers are one of the great prime time teams while the Panthers are not. The Panthers had gone 1-5 last 6 on TNF, while the Steelers had gone 12-1 last 13 prime time. I do put a lot into situations.

Yes the Steelers are great, but not 52 points great.

Their offense is definitely 52 points great. They have the best OL in football, the 6th best QB in the NFL (a long term veteran at that), and a host of insanely talented skill players. They struggled the first 4 weeks, but they could be the 2nd best team in the AFC behind KC... we'll find out in late December who is better between them and NE.

[Spurtacular]

(PIT @ CAR)
DET @ CHI
NO @ CIN
ATL @ CLE
NE @ TEN
JAX @ iND
ARI @ KC
BUF @ NYJ
WAS @ TB
LAC @ OAK
MIA @ GB
SEA @ LAR
DAL @ PHI
NYG @ SF

[Spurtacular]

Screw it. Missed like four Thursday games now. Just gonna predict the rest now....

GB @ SEA
CHI @ DET
NO @ DAL
JAX @ TEN
LAC @ KC
WAS @ TEN

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Jets
Falcons
Saints
Buccaneers
Patriots
Packers
Colts
Bears
Chiefs
Chargers
Rams
Eagles

[Robz4000]

Steelers
Bears
Saints
Falcons
Patriots
Colts
Chiefs
Jets
Buccaneers
Chargers
Packers
Rams
Eagles
Niners

8-5 going into MNF.

[spurraider21]

Steelers
Saints
Falcons
Packers
Colts
Bears
Chiefs
Cheatriots
Bucs
Jets
Raiders (cant stop wont stop)
Rams
Eagles
Giants
7-6 heading into MNF... yeesh

[spurraider21]

9-5 going into MNF.
8-5 tbh

[Robz4000]

8-5 tbh

:tu

[Millennial_Messiah]

7-6 heading into MNF... yeesh

that's what you get for chronically picking the team that should be winless if they didn't luck into a controversial OT win against the biggest joke team in sports tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

CAR @ PIT

NO @ CIN
ATL @ CLE
DET @ CHI
AZ @ KC
NE @ TEN
WAS @ TB
BUF @ NYJ
JAX @ IND
SD @ OAK
SEA @ LAR
MIA @ GB
DAL @ PHI

NYG @ SF

9-4 with tomorrow to come


I don't get why anyone picked the Jets trotting out a backup tbh.

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 10 Picks:

Steelers
Saints
Lions
Falcons
Patriots
Colts
Chiefs
Jets
Redskins
Chargers
Packers
Rams
Eagles
Giants

9-5

95-51-2

[Robz4000]

8-5 this week, 86-46-2 this season.

8-6, 94-52-2

[JohnnyD]

Well I do have 8 weeks to prove it. (this a copy from an above post)

Week 10

Steelers
Bears
Saints
Falcons
Packers
Colts
Chiefs
Jets
Redskins
Pats
Chargers
Rams
Eagles
Niners

9 wins one less than my average.

94 plus 9....103

These are the guys I've been competing against. I never look at their picks until Monday night. I'm sitting pretty right now.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/features/writers/expert/picks/straight-up/10

[spurraider21]

10-3 this week

83-47-2 overall
8-6 this week

91-53-2 overall

[JohnnyD]

A tool I use after week 4 is points scored vs points given up.

An average Rams game has them at plus 10. An average Raiders game has them at minus 13.

So if the two met...Rams plus 23.

Bears vs Vikes Sunday, Bears plus 9, Vikes plus 2, so with both at plus we have a Bears plus 7. Let's see what happens.

Obviously no system works all the time just looking for 10 times it does that week.

Home vs road also a tool.

Accumulation of info and knowing how to use it is the key.

A must have,

https://www.google.com/search?q=nfl+standings+2018&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1#sie=lg;/g/11ggrjz626;6;/m/059yj;st;fp



(https://www.google.com/search?q=nfl+standings+2018&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1#sie=lg;/g/11ggrjz626;6;/m/059yj;st;fp)

[JohnnyD]

The Steelers were 12-1 in prime time games, the Panthers were 1-5 on TNF.

So we have the Steelers at 17-2, remember what happened in that game?

Stuff like that is very important when playing SU picks.

Now the next time we see the Steelers in a prime time game....13-1, the next time we see the Panthers on TNF...1-6.

[JohnnyD]

Got Seahawks the rest later.

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 11 Picks:

Packers
Falcons
Panthers
Colts
Giants
Redskins
Steelers
Bengals
Cardinals
Chargers
Saints
Vikings
Rams

[spurraider21]

Seahawks
Falcons
Panthers
Colts
Giants
Redskins
Steelers
Ravens
Raiders
Chargers
Saints
Bears
Rams

[Robz4000]

Seacucks
Titans
Bucs
Steelers
Panthers
Falcons
Ravens
Texans
Cardinals
Chargers
Saints
Bears
Rams

[Millennial_Messiah]

Seattle has lost 2 in a row at the bitter end against elite teams (both had the chance to win at the end- final drives came up short), while Packers are coming off a comfy home win over a bad AFC fodder team. Seattle won't go away easily with that coach and QB. Gotta go Seattle at home over the GOAT. Though wouldn't be stunned if the GOAT pulled it out.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Week 1: 11-4-1
Week 2: 11-4-1
Week 3: 7-8
Week 4: 12-3
Week 5: 11-4
Week 6: 10-5
Week 7: 11-3
Week 8: 11-2
Week 9: 8-4
Wek 10: 8-5
Season: 100-42-2

I pick the Seahawks for tonight.

The rest of picks will come later

[JohnnyD]

103 wins

Seahawks as mentioned above

Falcons
Ravens
Bears
Panthers
Colts
Saints
Giants
Redskins
Cards
Chargers
Steelers

Back and forth, back and forth on this one. Really having a hard time here.

Now that the game is in LA that is the only reason.......Rams.

[Spurtacular]

Week 1: 10-5-1
Week 2: 9-6-1
Week 3: 8-8-0
Week 4: 7-8-0
Week 5: 9-6-0
Week 6: 10-5-0
Week 7: 8-6-0
Week 8: 12-2-0
Week 9: 8-5-0
Week 10: 8-6-0

Overall: 89-57-2

GB @ SEA
DAL @ ATL
TEN @ IND
TB @ NYG
HOU @ WAS
PIT @ JAX
CIN @ BAL
OAK @ ARI
DEN @ LAC
PHI @ NO
MIN @ CHI
KC @ LAR

[Spurtacular]

Week 1: 11-4-1
Week 2: 11-4-1
Week 3: 7-8
Week 4: 12-3
Week 5: 11-4
Week 6: 10-5
Week 7: 11-3
Week 8: 11-2
Week 9: 8-4
Wek 10: 8-5
Season: 100-42-2


You're short a game in all of those; I stopped going back and checking after that.

[JohnnyD]

We will see NFL history today.

The Ravens will use two QB's with sub 4.41 speed, that is a first.

[chunticakes]

We will see NFL history today.

The Ravens will use two QB's with sub 4.41 speed, that is a first.

How fast was Barry Sanders?

[TheCultOfPersonality]

You're short a game in all of those; I stopped going back and checking after that.
I didn't pick a TNF game for Week 8 and 9 and didn't pick a MNF game for week 10. I hoping to get back on track for the final weeks.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

The Sunday Games

Panthers
Falcons
Ravens
Bears
Saints
Colts
Redskins
Buccaneers
Chargers
Raiders
Steelers

(Picks subject to change before kickoff)

[Spurtacular]

I didn't pick a TNF game for Week 8 and 9 and didn't pick a MNF game for week 10. I hoping to get back on track for the final weeks.

Those are L's if you don't pick them. I haven't picked like 4 of them and counted them as L's every time.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Those are L's if you don't pick them. I haven't picked like 4 of them and counted them as L's every time.
I'll take 4 L's. I also did not pick Jets vs Browns.

[spurraider21]

Seahawks
Falcons
Panthers
Colts
Giants
Redskins
Steelers
Ravens
Raiders
Chargers
Saints
Bears
Rams
8-4 going into Monday

[JohnnyD]

8-4 going into Monday

There is a site that keeps up with everybody who picks games for various pick um sites.

8 wins was the best all the leaders did, I had 7.

[Blake]

There is a site that keeps up with everybody who picks games for various pick um sites.

8 wins was the best all the leaders did, I had 7.

You also lost thousands of dollars here.

[JohnnyD]

You also lost thousands of dollars here.

Dude, so how did I magically turn that around the next season? I said this...ok time to give my legit plays....plus over 2000. So I just figured it out in a year?

[JohnnyD]

Could be leaving at any time, not sure yet.'

My Turkey day picks.

Bears
Cowboys
Saints

[Robz4000]

Seacucks
Titans
Bucs
Steelers
Panthers
Falcons
Ravens
Texans
Cardinals
Chargers
Saints
Bears
Rams

6-6 going into tonight.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

I pick the Seahawks for tonight.

The rest of picks will come later


The Sunday Games

Panthers
Falcons
Ravens
Bears
Saints
Colts
Redskins
Buccaneers
Chargers
Raiders
Steelers

(Picks subject to change before kickoff)

7-5.

I got the Rams tonight.

[JohnnyD]

7-5 and Rams

First non 9 or better this season.

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 11 Picks:

Packers
Falcons
Panthers
Colts
Giants
Redskins
Steelers
Bengals
Cardinals
Chargers
Saints
Vikings
Rams

5-8

100-59-2

[Blake]

Dude, so how did I magically turn that around the next season? I said this...ok time to give my legit plays....plus over 2000. So I just figured it out in a year?

You're a documented liar.

[JohnnyD]

You're a documented liar.

Dude, just talk football and stop bugging everyone, ok?

[JohnnyD]

8 wins my first sub 9 week.

111 wins


Just picking home teams you'd have 94 wns.

These are the guys I try to beat.

https://nflpickwatch.com/

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(https://nflpickwatch.com/)

[Blake]

Dude, just talk football and stop bugging everyone, ok?

Liar

[JohnnyD]

Liar

So what did ya think of that amazing game last night Blake?

Dude, here we talk football, ok? Why not take your personal problems to The Club, ok?

Hell, make a thread.

[spurraider21]

8-6 this week

91-53-2 overall
9-4 this week

100-57-2 overall

[Blake]

So what did ya think of that amazing game last night Blake?

Dude, here we talk football, ok? Why not take your personal problems to The Club, ok?

Hell, make a thread.

Liar

[JohnnyD]

Liar

You are disrupting the football talk guy so here is the deal.

You will be ignored here, we can talk else where.

Now watch this freak start following me around....again,

What a sad little shit.

[Robz4000]

6-6 going into tonight.

7-6 this week, 101-58-2 overall.

[Blake]

You will be ignored here

Another lie

[Robz4000]

Lions
Cowboys
Saints
Bengals
Panthers
Jaguars
Ravens
Colts
Bucs
Eagles
Pats
Chargers
Steelers
Packers
Texans

[Spurtacular]

Liar

This ain't your cuckoon, blake.

[Spurtacular]

Week 1: 10-5-1
Week 2: 9-6-1
Week 3: 8-8-0
Week 4: 7-8-0
Week 5: 9-6-0
Week 6: 10-5-0
Week 7: 8-6-0
Week 8: 12-2-0
Week 9: 8-5-0
Week 10: 8-6-0
Week 11: 4-9-0

Overall: 93-66-2

CHI @ DET
WAS @ DAL
ATL @ NO
JAX @ BUF
CLE @ CIN
NE @ NYJ
NYG @ PHI
SF @ TB
SEA @ CAR
OAK @ BAL
ARI @ LAC
PIT @ DEN
MIA @ IND
GB @ MIN
TEN @ HOU

[JohnnyD]

You see my 111 and think...sure.

I could simply go with these guys and have 109. But my thing is beating them and I've been playing this for a few years now.

I spend a lot of time on it, I do the homework. I do know all the stats ya need in picking SU.

Pay no attention to this until Tuesday. Then see how I did.




https://nflpickwatch.com/

(https://nflpickwatch.com/)

[JohnnyD]

I'm going make my picks this week taking on Spurtacular

CHI @ DET .......Chicago
WAS @ DAL......Dallas
ATL @ NO
JAX @ BUF
CLE @ CIN
NE @ NYJ
NYG @ PHI....Phillie
SF @ TB
SEA @ CAR....Sea
OAK @ BAL
ARI @ LAC
PIT @ DEN
MIA @ IND
GB @ MIN
TEN @ HOU

Obviously agree with those I didn't mention.

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 12 picks:

Bears
Cowboys
Saints
Bills
Bengals
Patriots
Eagles
Bucs
Seahawks
Ravens
Chargers
Steelers
Colts
Packers
Texans

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Week 1: 11-4-1
Week 2: 11-4-1
Week 3: 7-9
Week 4: 12-3
Week 5: 11-4
Week 6: 10-5
Week 7: 11-3
Week 8: 11-3
Week 9: 8-5
Wek 10: 8-6
Week 11: 8-5
Season: 108-51-2

I pick the Bears, Cowboys, and Saints for tonight.

The rest of picks will come later

[spurraider21]

Damn, forgot the game starts this early.

Dallas
New Orleans
Jacksonville
Cleveland
New England
Philly
Tampa Bay
Seattle
Oakland
LA Chargers
Steelers
Colts
Vikings
Texans

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Bills
Ravens
Buccaneers
Eagles
Browns
Patriots
Seahawks
Colts
Chargers
Steelers
Vikings

(Picks subject to change before kickoff)

[spurraider21]

Damn, forgot the game starts this early.

Dallas
New Orleans
Jacksonville
Cleveland
New England
Philly
Tampa Bay
Seattle
Oakland
LA Chargers
Steelers
Colts
Vikings
Texans
10-3 going into MNF. still kicking myself for not getting my picks in before the early thursday game, as bears were an easy pick. but ah well, i missed it.

[JohnnyZ]

11 wins with Houston on MNF.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Week 1: 11-4-1
Week 2: 11-4-1
Week 3: 7-9
Week 4: 12-3
Week 5: 11-4
Week 6: 10-5
Week 7: 11-3
Week 8: 11-3
Week 9: 8-5
Wek 10: 8-6
Week 11: 8-5
Season: 108-51-2

I pick the Bears, Cowboys, and Saints for tonight.

The rest of picks will come later


Bills
Ravens
Buccaneers
Eagles
Browns
Patriots
Seahawks
Colts
Chargers
Steelers
Vikings

(Picks subject to change before kickoff)

13-1

As for tonight's game. This is a tough one to call. I can see either team winning, but I'll go with the Texans.

[Robz4000]

Lions
Cowboys
Saints
Bengals
Panthers
Jaguars
Ravens
Colts
Bucs
Eagles
Pats
Chargers
Steelers
Packers
Texans

9-5 going into tonight.

[JohnnyZ]

12 wins this week.

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 12 picks:

Bears
Cowboys
Saints
Bills
Bengals
Patriots
Eagles
Bucs
Seahawks
Ravens
Chargers
Steelers
Colts
Packers
Texans

12-3

112-62-2

[Robz4000]

9-5 going into tonight.

10-5 this week, 111-63-2 on the season.

[spurraider21]

9-4 this week

100-57-2 overall
11-3 this week

111-60-2 overall

[JohnnyZ]

123 wins right now.

Like I mentioned trying to beat these guys.

The real key to picking straight up is what road teams can win? Home/road the big deal.

Hard to believe but if all you ever picked was home teams you'd have 106 wins. Every week 8/9 home teams will win.

Going into a bye/coming off a bye, who sucks/shines in prime time. Stuff ya need to know. Who is the best in Sept/Oct/Nov/Dec ya need to know.

If you just go with with your gut you can hit 8/9 wins a week, if ya plan on averaging 10 you will need to know stuff like..........


Steelers are NFL's best December team since 2013

4-1 in Dec in 2017



https://nflpickwatch.com/

[Darth_Pelican]

123 wins right now.

Like I mentioned trying to beat these guys.

The real key to picking straight up is what road teams can win? Home/road the big deal.

Hard to believe but if all you ever picked was home teams you'd have 106 wins. Every week 8/9 home teams will win.

Going into a bye/coming off a bye, who sucks/shines in prime time. Stuff ya need to know. Who is the best in Sept/Oct/Nov/Dec ya need to know.

If you just go with with your gut you can hit 8/9 wins a week, if ya plan on averaging 10 you will need to know stuff like..........


Steelers are NFL's best December team since 2013

4-1 in Dec in 2017



https://nflpickwatch.com/

More lies. No documentation here that you have 123 wins. No one here believes you.

[JohnnyZ]

More lies. No documentation here that you have 123 wins. No one here believes you.

I have four of my weeks documented the first and last three. Remember me talking about averaging 10 wins a week?

week one...11
week ten...9
week eleven..8
week twelve...12

Add that up...40....so what is my average?

Dude, see that link below my above post, check out what those guys are hitting, my goal is to beat them not copy them.

Like I said somewhere, I will average 10 wins a week the rest of this season watch and see.

You really haven't noticed my thing about trends, stats, "spots",.....really? Yes guy I have the info, I know what I'm doing, and that should be real obvious.

Dude, there is a system to this and it all evolves around home/road, points scored/points given up.

Dude, why in the hell don't you stop all your shit come to the realization here is a long time football fan and pick up a few things. Hell, I can totally school you on your Saints, trust me.

Here is a tool I use.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nflstandings&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1

Ok ya look at the home/road records.

Example....

Bills 2-4 at home, minus 6 in points
Cards 4-2 on the road a plus 6 in points

So the Cards with the advantage.

Now add the Bills suck coming out of a bye week, last 10....2-8.

See how it works? Hell guy, just picking home teams you'd have 106 wins.

Accumulation of info favoring a side in a particular "spot"...ok?

I don't lie guy, just freak people out because of all my experience. What did John Gillum do in the very first Saints game?

Been picking games since since HS in the 60's, how about you?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxAMKH3ggHo

This after week one

So we count the Eagles game?

11-4-1

Why a loss?

You simply cannot take a rookie QB on the road in his first game, so I had the right side.

Same with Chiefs on the road vs Chargers, sorta.

Ok the Skins are better than I thought.

Nobody saw Buc's beating Saints.


It usually takes me a few weeks to get the new season. Usually hit 9-11 I don't expect anything different this season.

See where I say, Usually hit 9-11 I don't expect anything different, so....10 average.

[JohnnyZ]

Ok, Saints vs Cowboys

So how do these teams do on TNF?

Who has the points scored.given up advantage?

How about vs winning opposition?

Be right back.

TNF

D..6-2
NO...2-3

Points

D...plus 2
NO...plus 15

Home/Road

D...4-1
NO...5-0

Opposition

D...haven't beaten anyone, lost to Sea, Hous, Wash, Titans, Panthers
NO...beat Rams, Vikes, haven't lost since week one.

QB play....Drew Brees vs Dak Prescott

I think I'll go with............Saints.

The road team as a 7 point RF, what is Vegas telling us?

I do that for all my plays, so it really is amazing I only average 10 wins a week.

Another tool, so we have the number one ranked Saints vs the number twelve ranked Cowboys.

Who out there puts in that kind of time over this, yep..nobody. So the guy who does the work.....guess what?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000993239/article/nfl-power-rankings-week-13-seahawks-hit-top-10-steelers-fall

(http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000993239/article/nfl-power-rankings-week-13-seahawks-hit-top-10-steelers-fall)

[JohnnyZ]

Check it out.

I need a real good reason to play a dog when it comes to SU, here is the reason.

Away Teams


68-106-2
39.08%


Home Teams
106-68-2
60.92%


Favorites
117-57-2
67.24%


Dogs
57-117-2
32.76%


Away Favorites
33-22-2
60.00%


Away Dogs
35-84-0
29.41%


Home Favorites
84-35-0
70.59%


Home Dogs
22-33-2
40.00%



You would have 117 wins just playing favorites.

All that stuff above in this thread is where I;m at with this, hell yes with all study you are going hit more winners than a buch of guys who do none of that, simply common sense.


That's why I compete vs these guys, they are like me. Spend the time.

Been doing this since the mid 60's, you do figure it all out in 50ish years.


https://nflpickwatch.com/

[JohnnyZ]

Sorry about all that guys, I just get tired of the crap. I wanted to show just now serious I take this stuff. How deeply I go with it. Why I can hit 10 a week average, I do the work that takes, I put in the time. Far more than anyone else here, so I should get more right. Who here pays any attention to bye weeks?

[Millennial_Messiah]

I'd say the Cowboys are a very good dog considering they're on a roll and Prescott does well when they're on winning streaks. And they're at home and it's TNF and Dallas has the defense to give Brees some trouble.

[JohnnyZ]

I'd say the Cowboys are a very good dog considering they're on a roll and Prescott does well when they're on winning streaks. And they're at home and it's TNF and Dallas has the defense to give Brees some trouble.

How often are road teams fav by 7.5? and lose the game SU?

This NO team is already historically great and Brees is having a monstous season. Dallas hasn't beat any elite team all season for a reason.

Obviously....the Saints can show up flat, some penalities, special teams breakdowns, a few injuries, that can happen and for Dallas to win it has to happen.

Not unrealistic to see the Saints in total control the out come never in doubt, always in the lead, talking 24 13ish, with seconds to go the Cowboys backdoor a 24-20 loss, but haul in that ATS $$$$$$$$$$$.

Then there is this little gem.


NFL betting trends
The Saints are 9-3 ATS in their last 12 games vs. the Cowboys.
The total has gone over in four of the Saints' last five games vs. the Cowboys.
The Saints are 14-3 ATS in their last 17 games on the road vs. teams with winning records.

That gives the Saints a STRONG 23-6 trend in this "spot".

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 13 Picks:

Saints
Ravens
Broncos
Rams
Packers
Dolphins
Bears
Panthers
Colts
Texans
Titans
Chiefs
Patriots
Seahawks
Chargers
Eagles

[Robz4000]

Saints
Bears
Packers
Colts
Texans
Panthers
Dolphins
Bengals
Falcons
Rams
Chiefs
Titans
Pats
Seacucks
Steelers
Eagles

[spurraider21]

Saints
Ravens
Texans
Broncos
Dolphins
Colts
Raiders
Titans
Giants
Packers
Rams
Panthers
Patriots
Seahawks
Steelers
Eagles

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Week 1: 11-4-1
Week 2: 11-4-1
Week 3: 7-9
Week 4: 12-3
Week 5: 11-4
Week 6: 10-5
Week 7: 11-3
Week 8: 11-3
Week 9: 8-5
Wek 10: 8-6
Week 11: 8-5
Week 12: 14-1
Season: 122-52-2


I got the Saints.

The rest of the picks will come later.

[Millennial_Messiah]

How often are road teams fav by 7.5? and lose the game SU?

This NO team is already historically great and Brees is having a monstous season. Dallas hasn't beat any elite team all season for a reason.

Obviously....the Saints can show up flat, some penalities, special teams breakdowns, a few injuries, that can happen and for Dallas to win it has to happen.

Not unrealistic to see the Saints in total control the out come never in doubt, always in the lead, talking 24 13ish, with seconds to go the Cowboys backdoor a 24-20 loss, but haul in that ATS $$$$$$$$$$$.

Then there is this little gem.


NFL betting trends
The Saints are 9-3 ATS in their last 12 games vs. the Cowboys.
The total has gone over in four of the Saints' last five games vs. the Cowboys.
The Saints are 14-3 ATS in their last 17 games on the road vs. teams with winning records.

That gives the Saints a STRONG 23-6 trend in this "spot".

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:lmao Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[JohnnyZ]

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:lmao Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Like I said


Obviously....the Saints can show up flat, some penalities, special teams breakdowns, a few injuries, that can happen and for Dallas to win it has to happen.

[chunticakes]

Like I said


Obviously....the Saints can show up flat, some penalities, special teams breakdowns, a few injuries, that can happen and for Dallas to win it has to happen.

Yep. You gotta pick your...spots.

[JohnnyZ]

Yep. You gotta pick your...spots.

That's right rookie, the Cowboys 6-2 last 8 on TNF, the Saints 2-4 last six since 2006. TNF home teams big advantage over road teams

Don't act like an idiot guy, I mentioned the Saints could show up flat, they did?


Dummy, don't act like retarded monkey over one game, ok? There was a reason the Cowboys were 7.5 dogs and NOBODY took them to win the game.

Where is your opinion before the game?

[chunticakes]

NFL betting trends
The Saints are 9-3 ATS in their last 12 games vs. the Cowboys.
The total has gone over in four of the Saints' last five games vs. the Cowboys.
The Saints are 14-3 ATS in their last 17 games on the road vs. teams with winning records.

That gives the Saints a STRONG 23-6 trend in this "spot".

Good thing I didn't listen to you or other pundits. I said I wouldn't touch this game with a ten foot pole. And I didn't.

I'm a Cowboys fan hence I don't bet on their games. I bet with my head not with my heart.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Sunday Picks

Colts
Steelers
Carolina
Falcons
Texans
Dolphins
Giants
Broncos
Rams
Packers
Chiefs
Titans
Patriots
Seahawks

(Picks subject to change before kickoff)

[Spurtacular]

NO @ DAL (Dafuq!?!?)
BAL @ ATL
DEN @ CIN
LAR @ DET
ARI @ GB
BUF @ MIA
CHI @ NYG
CAR @ TB
IND @ JAX
CLE @ HOU
NYJ @ TEN
KC @ OAK
MIN @ NE
SF @ SEA
LAC @ PIT
WAS @ PHI

Week 1: 10-5-1
Week 2: 9-6-1
Week 3: 8-8-0
Week 4: 7-8-0
Week 5: 9-6-0
Week 6: 10-5-0
Week 7: 8-6-0
Week 8: 12-2-0
Week 9: 8-5-0
Week 10: 8-6-0
Week 11: 4-9-0
Week 12: 8-7-0

Overall: 101-73-2

[Spurtacular]

Good thing I didn't listen to you or other pundits. I said I wouldn't touch this game with a ten foot pole. And I didn't.

I'm a Cowboys fan hence I don't bet on their games. I bet with my head not with my heart.

Hard to believe Cowboys were only +300 ML at peak. I would've thought +675 or something with the way the Saints had been shredding teams.

[JohnnyZ]

NO @ DAL (Dafuq!?!?)
BAL @ ATL
DEN @ CIN.....................Denver
LAR @ DET
ARI @ GB
BUF @ MIA
CHI @ NYG
CAR @ TB......................Caro
IND @ JAX
CLE @ HOU
NYJ @ TEN
KC @ OAK
MIN @ NE..............NE
SF @ SEA
LAC @ PIT
WAS @ PHI




I agree with the ones I didn't mention.

I expect to hit another 12.

123 right now.

My goal is beat these guys.

https://nflpickwatch.com/

Nobody had Dallas
(https://nflpickwatch.com/)

[spurraider21]

Saints
Ravens
Texans
Broncos
Dolphins
Colts
Raiders
Titans
Giants
Packers
Rams
Panthers
Patriots
Seahawks
Steelers
Eagles
9-6 going into monday... ugh

[JohnnyZ]

I need the Eagles to win to hit my 10 games a week average.

The Cards hadn't won in GB since the 40's.
The Steelers were 220-0-2 in games they had a 14 point lead.
When was the last time the Panthers lost 4 in a row?

Snake bit.

[Robz4000]

Saints
Bears
Packers
Colts
Texans
Panthers
Dolphins
Bengals
Falcons
Rams
Chiefs
Titans
Pats
Seacucks
Steelers
Eagles

7-8 going into MNF. :lol wow...

[Blake]

How often are road teams fav by 7.5? and lose the game SU?

This NO team is already historically great and Brees is having a monstous season. Dallas hasn't beat any elite team all season for a reason.

Obviously....the Saints can show up flat, some penalities, special teams breakdowns, a few injuries, that can happen and for Dallas to win it has to happen.

Not unrealistic to see the Saints in total control the out come never in doubt, always in the lead, talking 24 13ish, with seconds to go the Cowboys backdoor a 24-20 loss, but haul in that ATS $$$$$$$$$$$.

Then there is this little gem.


NFL betting trends
The Saints are 9-3 ATS in their last 12 games vs. the Cowboys.
The total has gone over in four of the Saints' last five games vs. the Cowboys.
The Saints are 14-3 ATS in their last 17 games on the road vs. teams with winning records.

That gives the Saints a STRONG 23-6 trend in this "spot".

Oh look another bad bet from Avante.

And he's fat

[Will Hunting]

Oh look another bad bet from Avante.

And he's fat
:lol that’s especially funny because there was a lot of sharp money on Dallas and a lot of public money that was on the Saints.

All of the trends used in Avantes posts are retarded to bet on and reek of logic used by the typical public money gambler who loses money every year.

In order of the trends he listed:
- The Saints last 12 games against the Cowboys go back probably 20+ years with teams that don’t have any of the personnel these teams currently have.
- Ignoring the fact it makes no sense to use the prior 12 games for one “trend” and then the prior 5 games for another, the total going over in their last 5 matchups has nothing to do with the Saints being able to cover a spread.
- The Saints record ATS on the road vs teams with winning records might be the dumbest trend he mentions. The last 17 games the Saints have played on the road against winning teams likely consists of games where the Saints were favored to lose and as long as they kept it close had a good shot at covering the spread, ie, scenarios that aren’t relevant to last Thursday when the Saints were favored by over a touchdown.

Putting money on a team that’s 5-1 at home and on a 3 game winning streak to lose by more than a touchdown because of games that happened 20 years ago is yet another shining example of Avantes stupidity.

[Will Hunting]

That's right rookie, the Cowboys 6-2 last 8 on TNF, the Saints 2-4 last six since 2006. TNF home teams big advantage over road teams

Don't act like an idiot guy, I mentioned the Saints could show up flat, they did?


Dummy, don't act like retarded monkey over one game, ok? There was a reason the Cowboys were 7.5 dogs and NOBODY took them to win the game.

Where is your opinion before the game?
You mentioned the Saints “could show up flat” to hedge your prediction such that you’d be able to say you were right either way even though the opinion that the Saints could come out flat is mutually exclusive with the opinion that them winning by over a touchdown is a good bet.

If the Cowboys are so much better on TNF than the Saints are and if there was a chance the Saints could show up flat, then why the fuck did you mention the Saints winning by over a touchdown is a good bet?

[Blake]

Lol the Hedge

[Darth_Pelican]

:lol that’s especially funny because there was a lot of sharp money on Dallas and a lot of public money that was on the Saints.

All of the trends used in Avantes posts are retarded to bet on and reek of logic used by the typical public money gambler who loses money every year.

In order of the trends he listed:
- The Saints last 12 games against the Cowboys go back probably 20+ years with teams that don’t have any of the personnel these teams currently have.
- Ignoring the fact it makes no sense to use the prior 12 games for one “trend” and then the prior 5 games for another, the total going over in their last 5 matchups has nothing to do with the Saints being able to cover a spread.
- The Saints record ATS on the road vs teams with winning records might be the dumbest trend he mentions. The last 17 games the Saints have played on the road against winning teams likely consists of games where the Saints were favored to lose and as long as they kept it close had a good shot at covering the spread, ie, scenarios that aren’t relevant to last Thursday when the Saints were favored by over a touchdown.

Putting money on a team that’s 5-1 at home and on a 3 game winning streak to lose by more than a touchdown because of games that happened 20 years ago is yet another shining example of Avantes stupidity.

It was Mason's pick

[Will Hunting]

Lol the Hedge

The Saints are a great pick to win by more than a touchdown in this "spot" but they could also either win by a touchdown or less if they're only up by 11 when the other team scores a touchdown at the end of the game (since that would mean they only win by 4), or if they score less points than the other team they could outright lose!

Lets see you tell me I'm wrong after that!

[spurraider21]

what a shitty week tbh :lol... only one i'm proud of picking is giants over bears

[JohnnyZ]

ATS wagering, is all about accumulating the info needed to find a side that has the big advantage in a particular "spot".

The last time I picked ATS games here I ended the season a plus $2,100. That is documented in a thread....Avante Betting Tracker thread. How I did that can be found there.

You look for historically strong trends. Anyone thinking ....that shit don't matter....knows nothing about ATS betting.

The Saints didn't want to be there, it happens. If they meet up vs Dallas in the playoffs watch what happens.

[Blake]

ATS wagering, is all about accumulating the info needed to find a side that has the big advantage in a particular "spot".

The last time I picked ATS games here I ended the season a plus $2,100. That is documented in a thread....Avante Betting Tracker thread. How I did that can be found there.

You look for historically strong trends. Anyone thinking ....that shit don't matter....knows nothing about ATS betting.

The Saints didn't want to be there, it happens. If they meet up vs Dallas in the playoffs watch what happens.

Lol wut? You ended way down you lying fat piece of shit.

:lol how desperate are you when you have to lie to a bunch of strangers that don't want you here

[Will Hunting]

ATS wagering, is all about accumulating the info needed to find a side that has the big advantage in a particular "spot".

The last time I picked ATS games here I ended the season a plus $2,100. That is documented in a thread....Avante Betting Tracker thread. How I did that can be found there.

You look for historically strong trends. Anyone thinking ....that shit don't matter....knows nothing about ATS betting.

The Saints didn't want to be there, it happens. If they meet up vs Dallas in the playoffs watch what happens.
The Avante betting tracker had you down by thousands.

Lying again per usual.

[JohnnyZ]

The Avante betting tracker had you down by thousands.

Lying again per usual.

Dude, I was in two of those (first one my son fucked around with) one started by spurraider, THAT was the last one where I finally agreed to hand out free $$$$$$. Go ahead PM him and ask him about it.

I went something like 69-46ish winning over 2100. It's back there somewhere.

I don't lie guy.

He started the thread to watch me fail, and the first week....BOOM....down 330. Yep....YOU SUCK.

Then as time went on and I'm winning and winning.......hahahaha~~~~

Ask him guy, he got tired ok ok ok you're up................

[Blake]

Dude, I was in two of those (first one my son fucked around with) one started by spurraider, THAT was the last one where I finally agreed to hand out free $$$$$$. Go ahead PM him and ask him about it.

I went something like 69-46ish winning over 2100. It's back there somewhere.

I don't lie guy.

He started the thread to watch me fail, and the first week....BOOM....down 330. Yep....YOU SUCK.

Then as time went on and I'm winning and winning.......hahahaha~~~~

Ask him guy, he got tired ok ok ok you're up................

Nobody is buying your bullshit, fatty. Just go away

[JohnnyZ]

Nobody is buying your bullshit, fatty. Just go away

So you are saying that no there wasn't a thread documenting my plus 2100 betting season?

If I find it you take 30 days off?

[spurraider21]

Dude, I was in two of those (first one my son fucked around with) one started by spurraider, THAT was the last one where I finally agreed to hand out free $$$$$$. Go ahead PM him and ask him about it.

I went something like 69-46ish winning over 2100. It's back there somewhere.

I don't lie guy.

He started the thread to watch me fail, and the first week....BOOM....down 330. Yep....YOU SUCK.

Then as time went on and I'm winning and winning.......hahahaha~~~~

Ask him guy, he got tired ok ok ok you're up................
you forgot when you were down nearly 9k the year before tbh :lol

winning something like 2k in 2014 doesn't make up for that

[JohnnyZ]

you forgot when you were down nearly 9k the year before tbh :lol

So I just figured it all out in one season, really? How is that possible?

It was funny watching you, ha~~~ Ok ok ok ya won............

[Will Hunting]

So you are saying that no there wasn't a thread documenting my plus 2100 betting season?

If I find it you take 30 days off?
There was a thread documenting you up +2100, and another thread documenting you being down nearly 9 grand.

Add the two up and you get a shitty result.

[spurraider21]

There was a thread documenting you up +2100, and another thread documenting you being down nearly 9 grand.

Add the two up and you get a shitty result.
"but the bad year was mason!"

[Will Hunting]

"but the bad year was mason!"
I know he tried to claim the $5000 bet he lost was fake :lol

[JohnnyZ]

There was a thread documenting you up +2100, and another thread documenting you being down nearly 9 grand.

Add the two up and you get a shitty result.

There was a thread I started designed to fuck around, my son thought it would funny and it was.

Then the next season spurraider...let's have an Avante Betting Tracker Thread. I thought it over not wanting to hand out $$$$$$ for free. I finally...ok ok ok my legit plays. Yep...plus 2100.....using trends, stats "spots" as I mention in that thread.

[Will Hunting]

There was a thread I started designed to fuck around, my son thought it would funny and it was.

Then the next season spurraider...let's have an Avante Betting Tracker Thread. I thought it over not wanting to hand out $$$$$$ for free. I finally...ok ok ok my legit plays. Yep...plus 2100.....using trends, stats "spots" as I mention in that thread.
So when you lost money they were Masons picks, but when you won money it was actually your picks.

How convenient.

[JohnnyZ]

I know he tried to claim the $5000 bet he lost was fake :lol

Dude, I never played anymore than 550 in that real thread.

[spurraider21]

there was a betting tracker thread in 2013 where you lost nearly 9k, and a betting tracker in 2014 where you won a little over 2k

so you're a big fat loser overall

[Will Hunting]

Dude, I never played anymore than 550 in that real thread.
Yeah we get it. All of the bets you post on here that win are for real, and the ones that don’t pan out are fake.

[Will Hunting]

there was a betting tracker thread in 2013 where you lost nearly 9k, and a betting tracker in 2014 where you won a little over 2k

so you're a big fat loser overall
And just big and fat in general.

[Blake]

It was Mason's pick

[JohnnyZ]

So when you lost money they were Masons picks, but when you won money it was actually your picks.

How convenient.

Actually it was....."last season was all about fucking around with Blake, the guy is cracking us up" ....now time to get serious, this season my legit plays the ones I call in.

Dude, you don't figure this stuff out in one season, it takes years is get it down.

Yes there is a thread somewhere back there where I break down my picks showing the why the play ,yep....plus 2100.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Does Mason have sex with dudes in the gay bay??

[Will Hunting]

Actually it was....."last season was all about fucking around with Blake, the guy is cracking us up" ....now time to get serious, this season my legit plays the ones I call in.

Dude, you don't figure this stuff out in one season, it takes years is get it down.
Timeline

Pre 2012 season - You proclaim to win 70% of your bets
2012 season - You don’t even win 50% of your bets, then you say they were your sons picks.

Pre 2013 season - You say that last season was Mason messing around but this season is for real.
2013 season - You lose close to 9k, then claim that those picks weren’t real and that you were fucking with Blake.

Pre 2014 season - You claim that this is going to be the for real season and swear you’re not messing around.
2014 season - You actually post bets that show you up 2k, so this season they were conveniently your picks.

Pretty easy to be good at betting when every time you had a bad season they were someone else’s picks.

[JohnnyZ]

Fundamentals

A team will play a role week to week

Home fav
Home dog
Road fav
Road dog

X...is at home as a HD in that role they are a weak...4-26
Z...as a RF a strong 26-4.
Z...enjoying a STRONG...52-12 trend.

Just an example of where ya start in handicapping a game. Then ya look at injuries, points scored.given up, turnovers, bye week status, second home, second road? You are searching for reasons to play a game.

You are trying to find three/five games where one team has a HUGE advantage in that "spot" from a ATS perspective. Yep,time consuming, so ya better be a serious player.

[spurraider21]

yeah remember that game the cowboys lost in 1998? I'm going to use that to bet against them this week!

[JohnnyZ]

Timeline

Pre 2012 season - You proclaim to win 70% of your bets
2012 season - You don’t even win 50% of your bets, then you say they were your sons picks.

Pre 2013 season - You say that last season was Mason messing around but this season is for real.
2013 season - You lose close to 9k, then claim that those picks weren’t real and that you were fucking with Blake.

Pre 2014 season - You claim that this is going to be the for real season and swear you’re not messing around.
2014 season - You actually post bets that show you up 2k, so this season they were conveniently your picks.

Pretty easy to be good at betting when every time you had a bad season they were someone else’s picks.

I don't have good and bad seasons, nobody does once ya get to a certain level. It's how much will ya win season to season.

My son lived here back then we shared this computer, he liked to post here and I wasn't too serious about it, so fuck it.

[JohnnyZ]

yeah remember that game the cowboys lost in 1998? I'm going to use that to bet against them this week!

What is the the home record of the Pats in December in the Belichick/Brady era?

[spurraider21]

What is the the home record of the Pats in December in the Belichick/Brady era?
much more relevant than looking at saints/cowboys games from the 90's :lol

[JohnnyZ]

yeah remember that game the cowboys lost in 1998? I'm going to use that to bet against them this week!


By
Hayden Bird (https://www.boston.com/author/hayden-bird)
December 9, 2016


Though the month of December brings cold weather and less daylight, it also spells great news for Patriots fans.

During the course of the Brady-Belichick years in New England, making a dominant stretch run has been a signature move. Since Tom Brady became the starter in 2001, the Patriots have gone 54-10 in December. That’s the best in the NFL


So you have never listened to gamblers breaking down a game?

[JohnnyZ]

much more relevant than looking at saints/cowboys games from the 90's :lol

Why is it the Steelers, Pats, Cowboys, Niners, have played in a TON of SBs while....Browns, Lions, have never been in a SB? all those years, all those player, simply didn't matter, right


Check it out,

NFL Football Betting Trends - December, 2018

WashingtonGameCenter (https://www.oddsshark.com/nfl/washington-philadelphia-odds-december-3-2018-971602)Philadelphia



The total has gone OVER in 5 of Washington's last 6 games when playing on the road against Philadelphia
The total has gone OVER in 4 of Washington's last 5 games when playing Philadelphia
The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Philadelphia's last 6 games at home
The total has gone OVER in 5 of Philadelphia's last 6 games when playing at home against Washington

You simply don't understand what ATS wagering is all about. Hell guy there have books written on this stuff yes following trends, stats "spots" is very real.

Trust me, unless you understand basic fundamentals about ATS wagering you cannot win over time.

How To Win at Sports Betting


Remember how I usually played 110 to win 100? And when I played something bigger I never lost?

Dude, don't fight it.


Bengals Sunday night football.....


The Bengals have performed horribly in the prime time spot for years, dropping their past eight games on Sunday night, where they're 3-15 overall.

Now ya find out how there opponet does in that "spot", what if 15-3?

[Fabbs]

wth is wrong with todays Steelers?

[Millennial_Messiah]

wth is wrong with todays Steelers?
Jekyll and Hyde syndrome big time.


Let's hope Dr. Jekyll shows up against the Patsies in 2 weeks.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Week 1: 11-4-1
Week 2: 11-4-1
Week 3: 7-9
Week 4: 12-3
Week 5: 11-4
Week 6: 10-5
Week 7: 11-3
Week 8: 11-3
Week 9: 8-5
Wek 10: 8-6
Week 11: 8-5
Week 12: 14-1
Season: 122-52-2


I got the Saints.

The rest of the picks will come later.


Sunday Picks

Colts
Steelers
Carolina
Falcons
Texans
Dolphins
Giants
Broncos
Rams
Packers
Chiefs
Titans
Patriots
Seahawks

(Picks subject to change before kickoff)

9-6.

I got the Eagles.

[spurraider21]

11-3 this week

111-60-2 overall
10-6 this week

121-66-2 overall

[JohnnyZ]

I hit my weeky 10 win average, so...133 wins.

Still leading vs....

https://nflpickwatch.com/

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 13 Picks:

Saints
Ravens
Broncos
Rams
Packers
Dolphins
Bears
Panthers
Colts
Texans
Titans
Chiefs
Patriots
Seahawks
Chargers
Eagles

11-5

123-67-2

[Robz4000]

7-8 going into MNF. :lol wow...

8-8 this week, 119-71-2 on the year.

[JohnnyZ]

Have Titans on TNF.

Rest later.

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 14 Picks:

Titans
Saints
Bills
Browns
Packers
Chiefs
Patriots
Giants
Texans
Chargers
Broncos
Cowboys
Steelers
Lions
Bears
Seahawks

[spurraider21]

Titans
Chiefs
Patriots
Texans
Bills
Chargers
Broncos
Packers
Giants
Saints
Panthers
Eagles
Raiders
Lions
Bears
Seahawks

[Darth_Pelican]

Titans
Chiefs
Patriots
Texans
Bills
Chargers
Broncos
Packers
Giants
Saints
Panthers
Eagles
Raiders
Lions
Bears
Seahawks

https://i.imgur.com/W9jXXjY.gif?noredirect

[spurraider21]

https://i.imgur.com/W9jXXjY.gif?noredirect
brah i've picked them every week this season

[Robz4000]

Titans
Panthers
Chiefs
Texans
Patriots
Giants
Saints
Packers
Bills
Chargers
Broncos
Eagles
Steelers
Cardinals
Rams
Seacucks

[JohnnyZ]

There are some strong trends favoring Miami over NE.

Can we really take Cleveland over Carolina?

Chicago needs it, the Rams not so much.

Teams who have wrapped up a playoff spot, teams counting the days before this season is over.


Tough week and will be tough here on out.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Week 1: 11-4-1
Week 2: 11-4-1
Week 3: 7-9
Week 4: 12-3
Week 5: 11-4
Week 6: 10-5
Week 7: 11-3
Week 8: 11-3
Week 9: 8-5
Wek 10: 8-6
Week 11: 8-5
Week 12: 14-1
Week 13: 10-6
Season: 132-58-2

As for TNF, I guess the Titans. This is a really really tough one.

[Darth_Pelican]

edit, wrong thread

[JohnnyZ]

Titans
Saints
Bills
Browns
Packers
Chiefs
Patriots
Giants
Texans
Chargers
Broncos
Cowboys
Steelers
Lions
Bears
Seahawks

Did I really take the Browns?

[Millennial_Messiah]

CAR @ CLE
BAL @ KC
IND @ HOU
NE @ MIA
NYG @ WAS
NO @ TB *** Upset of the Week ***
ATL @ GB
NYJ @ BUF
CIN @ SD
DEN @ SF
PHI @ DAL
PIT @ OAK
DET @ AZ
LA @ CHI
MIN @ SEA

[Millennial_Messiah]

brah i've picked them every week this season

also pittsburgh is the ultimate jekyll and hyde team

[Spurtacular]

JAX @ TEN (Previously selected, Pg. 10)
CAR @ CLE
BAL @ KC
IND @ HOU
NE @ MIA
NYG @ WAS
NO @ TB
ATL @ GB
NYJ @ BUF
CIN @ LAC
DEN @ SF
PHI @ DAL
PIT @ OAK
DET @ AZ
LAR @ CHI
MIN @ SEA

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Sunday Picks

Chiefs
Texans
Browns
Packers
Saints
Bills
Patriots
Giants
Broncos
Chargers
Cardinals
Cowboys
Steelers
Rams

(Picks are subject to change before kickoff)

[Spurtacular]

I strongly considered picking TB; but I didn't want to over-react to the Dallas game. Apparently, teams are figuring out the Saints.

[Darth_Pelican]

NO @ TB *** Upset of the Week ***

:tu Thanks bro. I knew I wouldn’t have to sweat this one out.

[Darth_Pelican]

brah i've picked them every week this season

:bobo

[spurraider21]

:bobo
:lol finally det shit paid off

[Robz4000]

Titans
Panthers
Chiefs
Texans
Patriots
Giants
Saints
Packers
Bills
Chargers
Broncos
Eagles
Steelers
Cardinals
Rams
Seacucks

6-9 heading into MNF :vomit:...

[spurraider21]

Titans
Chiefs
Patriots
Texans
Bills
Chargers
Broncos
Packers
Giants
Saints
Panthers
Eagles
Raiders
Lions
Bears
Seahawks
9-6 going into monday

[TheCultOfPersonality]

As for TNF, I guess the Titans. This is a really really tough one.


Sunday Picks

Chiefs
Texans
Browns
Packers
Saints
Bills
Patriots
Giants
Broncos
Chargers
Cardinals
Cowboys
Steelers
Rams

(Picks are subject to change before kickoff)

8-7

I got the Seahawks for MNF.

[spurraider21]

10-6 this week

121-66-2 overall
10-6 again this week

131-72-2 overall

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 14 Picks:

Titans
Saints
Bills
Browns
Packers
Chiefs
Patriots
Giants
Texans
Chargers
Broncos
Cowboys
Steelers
Lions
Bears
Seahawks

11-5

134-72-2

[Robz4000]

6-9 heading into MNF :vomit:...

7-9 this week, 126-80-2 on the year.

[Robz4000]

Chiefs
Texans
Broncos
Falcons
Bengals
Vikings
Cowboys
Ravens
Lions
Bears
Jaguars
Titans
Seacucks
Patriots
Rams
Saints

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 15 Picks:

Chargers
Texans
Browns
Falcons
Bills
Bears
Bengals
Colts
Vikings
Giants
Jaguars
Ravens
Seahawks
Steelers
Rams
Saints

[spurraider21]

Chiefs
Texans
Broncos
Vikings
Titans
Jaguars
Raiders
Patriots
Colts
Bears
Ravens
Bills
Falcons
Seahawks
Rams
Saints

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Week 1: 11-4-1
Week 2: 11-4-1
Week 3: 7-9
Week 4: 12-3
Week 5: 11-4
Week 6: 10-5
Week 7: 11-3
Week 8: 11-3
Week 9: 8-5
Wek 10: 8-6
Week 11: 8-5
Week 12: 14-1
Week 13: 10-6
Week 14: 9-7
Season: 141-65-2

I feel asleep and missed TNF, but I'll do the Saturday picks.

Texans
Browns

(Picks subject to change)

Sunday picks will be in a seperate post just all of my daily picks.

[Spurtacular]

Hou @ NYJ*
Cle @ Den
Ari @ Atl
Det @ Buf
GB @ Chi
Oak @ Cin
Dal @ Ind
Was @ Jax
TB @ Bal
Sea @ SF
NE @ Pit
Phi @ LAR
NO @ Car
LAC @ KC (See pg 10)

* I guess I'll take the forfeit loss; but the game is only 3-3 in the first Q.

[Millennial_Messiah]

NE - PIT loses some of its juice because of how bad PIT has been lately. This was supposed to determine the 2nd seed, but now it's more likely to determine if the Pats keep the 2nd seed (instead of Houston) or the Steelers keep their slim division lead over the Ravens.

The only way the Patriots can get the #1 seed is to win out & have the Chiefs lose at least once AND for the Chargers to lose at least TWICE. Unlikely.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

I feel asleep and missed TNF, but I'll do the Saturday picks.

Texans
Browns

(Picks subject to change)

Sunday picks will be in a seperate post just all of my daily picks.

Thursday 0-1
Saturday 2-0

Sunday picks

Vikings
Raiders
Ravens
Cowboys
Lions
Bears
Giants
Jaguars
Falcons
Seahawks
Patriots
Rams

[Millennial_Messiah]

AZ @ ATL
DET @ BUF
GB @ CHI ***** UPSET!!! *****
OAK @ CIN
Dal @ IND
WAS @ JAX
TB @ BAL
SEA @ SF
NE @ PIT
Phi @ LAR ********* UPSET OF THE WEEK ************
NO @ CAR

[Millennial_Messiah]

Bears


That one had to hurt. :lol

[spurraider21]

Chiefs
Texans
Broncos
Vikings
Titans
Jaguars
Raiders
Patriots
Colts
Bears
Ravens
Bills
Falcons
Seahawks
Rams
Saints
8-7 going into monday, ugh

[Robz4000]

Chiefs
Texans
Broncos
Falcons
Bengals
Vikings
Cowboys
Ravens
Lions
Bears
Jaguars
Titans
Seacucks
Patriots
Rams
Saints

7-8 heading into MNF. I've been Larry-bad with my predictions these last few weeks.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Thursday 0-1
Saturday 2-0

Sunday picks

Vikings
Raiders
Ravens
Cowboys
Lions
Bears
Giants
Jaguars
Falcons
Seahawks
Patriots
Rams
6-9

My underdog picks sucked (other than the Browns) and my favorites mostly sucked.


Oh well, I got the Saints.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

That one had to hurt. :lol
Nah, I don't really hate the Bears. They're just another team.

The Bears are good at home and have a very good defense, the Packers are terrible on the road and have at best a so-so offense, easy decision.

Sure it's the NFL and anything can happen, but this isn't one of those times.

[Millennial_Messiah]

AZ @ ATL
DET @ BUF
GB @ CHI ***** UPSET!!! *****
OAK @ CIN
Dal @ IND
WAS @ JAX
TB @ BAL
SEA @ SF
NE @ PIT
Phi @ LAR ********* UPSET OF THE WEEK ************
NO @ CAR
Bingo. Only person on ST to pick the Eagles!

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 15 Picks:

Chargers
Texans
Browns
Falcons
Bills
Bears
Bengals
Colts
Vikings
Giants
Jaguars
Ravens
Seahawks
Steelers
Rams
Saints

12-4

146-76-2

[spurraider21]

10-6 again this week

131-72-2 overall
9-7 this week

140-79-2 overall

:wow darth pelican crushed it this week

[Darth_Pelican]

9-7 this week

140-79-2 overall

:wow darth pelican crushed it this week

Yeah the Chargers, Browns, and Steelers, and Bills picks worked out well for me.

[Robz4000]

7-8 heading into MNF. I've been Larry-bad with my predictions these last few weeks.

8-8 this week, 134-88-2 overall.

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 16 Picks:

Titans
Chargers
Browns
Cowboys
Vikings
Colts
Dolphins
Patriots
Packers
Eagles
Falcons
Rams
Bears
Saints
Seahawks
Broncos

[spurraider21]

Titans
Chargers
Eagles
Patriots
Colts
Browns
Dolphins
Saints
Cowboys
Packers
Vikings
Falcons
Bears
Rams
Chiefs
Raiders

[Millennial_Messiah]

WAS @ TEN
BAL @ SD
TB @ DAL ***** UPSET OF THE WEEK!!!!! *****
MIN @ DET **** UPSET! *****
ATL @ CAR
HOU @ PHI
NYG @ IND
CIN @ CLE
BUF @ NE
GB @ NYJ
JAX @ MIA
CHI @ SF
LA @ AZ
PIT @ NO
KC @ SEA
DEN @ OAK



My Upset pick of the week worked last week, will it this week???

[Robz4000]

Titans
Chargers
Cowboys
Vikings
Panthers
Eagles
Colts
Browns
Patriots
Panthers
Dolphins
Bears
Rams
Saints
Chiefs
Raiders

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Week 1: 11-4-1
Week 2: 11-4-1
Week 3: 7-9
Week 4: 12-3
Week 5: 11-4
Week 6: 10-5
Week 7: 11-3
Week 8: 11-3
Week 9: 8-5
Wek 10: 8-6
Week 11: 8-5
Week 12: 14-1
Week 13: 10-6
Week 14: 9-7
Week 15: 7-9
Season: 148-74-2


Titans
Chargers

(Picks subject to change)

Sunday picks will come later.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Titans
Chargers


1-1

Sunday games.

Cowboys
Patriots
Falcons
Dolphins
Colts
Texans
Vikings
Packers
Browns
Rams
Bears
Saints
Seahawks


(Picks subject to change)

[Spurtacular]

Forgot to do it this week. I wasn't gonna win, anyways. Might've got second.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

1-1

Sunday games.

Cowboys
Patriots
Falcons
Dolphins
Colts
Texans
Vikings
Packers
Browns
Rams
Bears
Saints
Seahawks


(Picks subject to change)

12-3


Monday night game is really tough.

I got the Broncos for now.

[spurraider21]

Titans
Chargers
Eagles
Patriots
Colts
Browns
Dolphins
Saints
Cowboys
Packers
Vikings
Falcons
Bears
Rams
Chiefs
Raiders
12-3 going into Monday. Whiffed on Chargers, dolphins, chiefs.

[Robz4000]

Titans
Chargers
Cowboys
Vikings
Panthers
Eagles
Colts
Browns
Patriots
Panthers
Dolphins
Bears
Rams
Saints
Chiefs
Raiders

10-4 going into MNF. Not sure why I put Panthers instead of Packers, but w/e.

[spurraider21]

9-7 this week

140-79-2 overall

:wow darth pelican crushed it this week
13-3 this week

153-82-2 overall

[Robz4000]

8-8 this week, 134-88-2 overall.

11-4 this week, 145-92-2 overall.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Week 1: 11-4-1
Week 2: 11-4-1
Week 3: 7-9
Week 4: 12-3
Week 5: 11-4
Week 6: 10-5
Week 7: 11-3
Week 8: 11-3
Week 9: 8-5
Wek 10: 8-6
Week 11: 8-5
Week 12: 14-1
Week 13: 10-6
Week 14: 9-7
Week 15: 7-9
Week 16: 12-4
Season: 160-78-2

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 16 Picks:

Titans
Chargers
Browns
Cowboys
Vikings
Colts
Dolphins
Patriots
Packers
Eagles
Falcons
Rams
Bears
Saints
Seahawks
Broncos

13-3

159-79-2

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 17 Picks:

Saints
Bills
Packers
Patriots
Giants
Falcons
Texans
Chargers
Chiefs
Rams
Vikings
Steelers
Seahawks
Eagles
Ravens
Colts

[spurraider21]

Patriots
Texans
Bills
Cowboys
Saints
Falcons
Packers
Ravens
Raiders
Steelers
Chargers
Bears
Rams
Eagles
Seahawks
Colts

[Robz4000]

Bills
Packers
Patriots
Saints
Texans
Giants
Falcons
Chiefs
Seacucks
Rams
Broncos
Bears
Ravens
Eagles
Steelers
Colts

[Millennial_Messiah]

MIA @ BUF
DET @ GB
NYJ @ NE
CAR @ NO **** UPSET OF THE WEEK! ****
JAX @ HOU
DAL @ NYG
ATL @ TB
OAK @ KC
AZ @ SEA
SF @ LA **** UPSET OF THE WEEK #2! ****
SD @ DEN
CHI @ MIN
CLE @ BAL
PHI @ WAS
CIN @ PIT
IND @ TEN


Standings (end of season):

AFC

1) Kansas City
2) New England
3) Houston
4) Baltimore
5) San Diego
6) Indiana


NFC

1) New Orleans
2) Chicago
3) Los Angeles
4) Dallas
5) Seattle
6) Philadelphia

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Bills
Packers
Patriots
Saints
Texans
Giants
Falcons
Chiefs
Seahawks
Rams
Chargers
Bears
Ravens
Eagles
Steelers
Colts


(Picks are subject to change before kickoff)

[Robz4000]

Bills
Packers
Patriots
Saints
Texans
Giants
Falcons
Chiefs
Seacucks
Rams
Broncos
Bears
Ravens
Eagles
Steelers
Colts

12-4 today, 157-96-2 at the end of the season.

[spurraider21]

13-3 this week

153-82-2 overall


Patriots
Texans
Bills
Cowboys
Saints
Falcons
Packers
Ravens
Raiders
Steelers
Chargers
Bears
Rams
Eagles
Seahawks
Colts
13-3 again.

166-85-2

[Millennial_Messiah]

MIA @ BUF
DET @ GB
NYJ @ NE
CAR @ NO **** UPSET OF THE WEEK! ****
JAX @ HOU
DAL @ NYG
ATL @ TB
OAK @ KC
AZ @ SEA
SF @ LA **** UPSET OF THE WEEK #2! ****
SD @ DEN
CHI @ MIN
CLE @ BAL
PHI @ WAS
CIN @ PIT
IND @ TEN


Standings (end of season):

AFC

1) Kansas City
2) New England
3) Houston
4) Baltimore
5) San Diego
6) Indiana


NFC

1) New Orleans
2) Chicago
3) Los Angeles
4) Dallas
5) Seattle
6) Philadelphia

HOT DANG!!! Nailed the most important week of the season for the most part.

14-2, absolutely killed week 17


The Millennial Messiah

[Darth_Pelican]

AND got the standings exactly perfect.

The Rams are the 2 seed

[Darth_Pelican]

Week 17 Picks:

Saints
Bills
Packers
Patriots
Giants
Falcons
Texans
Chargers
Chiefs
Rams
Vikings
Steelers
Seahawks
Eagles
Ravens
Colts

12-4

171-83-2

[Millennial_Messiah]

The Rams are the 2 seed

oh shit, you're right, my dumbass had the niners


but still, 14-2 is probably the best for anyone all year... it's too bad my september and october were full of those 8-7-1 and 8-7 type weeks

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Bills
Packers
Patriots
Saints
Texans
Giants
Falcons
Chiefs
Seahawks
Rams
Chargers
Bears
Ravens
Eagles
Steelers
Colts


(Picks are subject to change before kickoff)

13-3

173-81-2 for the entire season.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

oh shit, you're right, my dumbass had the niners


but still, 14-2 is probably the best for anyone all year... it's too bad my september and october were full of those 8-7-1 and 8-7 type weeks

I went 14-1 in Week 12. They only reason I didn't go undefeated is because the Steelers couldn't beat the Broncos.


https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275607&page=12&p=9613609&viewfull=1#post9613609

Not listed in the link, but the Texans defeated the Titans on MNF.

[Millennial_Messiah]

13-3

173-81-2 for the entire season.

I think you might have won the thread, in large part because of no homerism

[Darth_Pelican]

Wild Card Weekend Picks:

Texans
Cowboys
Chargers
Bears

[spurraider21]

Colts
Seahawks
Chargers
Bears

[Millennial_Messiah]

Colts

Ravens

Cowboys

Eagles

[Robz4000]

Colts
Ravens
Seacucks
Eagles

[TheCultOfPersonality]

I'll do the Sunday games in a seperate post in case i need to make a change.

Colts
Cowboys

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Sunday picks

Chargers
Bears

[Darth_Pelican]

Wild Card Weekend Picks:

Texans
Cowboys
Chargers
Bears

2-2

173-85-2

[Killakobe81]

I should have been posting here I got all 4 correct last week.

My initial call for next week is

chargers
chiefs
Rams
Saints

But tempted to flip to Cowboys and Colts will make final picks on Friday

[spurraider21]

13-3 again.

166-85-2


Colts
Seahawks
Chargers
Bears
2-2

168-87-2

[Robz4000]

Colts
Ravens
Seacucks
Eagles

2-2, 159-98-2

[Robz4000]

Divisional Round:

Colts
Rams
Patriots
Eagles

[spurraider21]

Divisional round picks:

Chiefs
Patriots
Saints
Rams

[TheCultOfPersonality]

I'll do the Sunday games in a seperate post in case i need to make a change.

Colts
Cowboys

Sunday picks

Chargers
Bears

3-1 (Fuck you Parkey!)

176-82-2 for the season.

My divisional round picks will come later.

[StinkyWeezleteats]

Cowboys
Saints

Chargers
Colts

0-0 for the season.

[Darth_Pelican]

Divisional Round Picks:

Chiefs
Rams
Chargers
Saints

[Millennial_Messiah]

DIVISIONAL ROUND:


- Chiefs
- Cowboys
- Patriots
- Eagles


3-1 so far!

[Trainwreck2100]

Chiefs
Saints
Chargers
Saints

Tough to go against BDN, but they should have lost that game against the bears so i can't see them beating brees. Also may flip on Chiefs Andy Reid plus a half mobile QB doesn't scream certainty to me

[Darth_Pelican]

Chiefs
Saints
Chargers
Saints

Tough to go against BDN, but they should have lost that game against the bears so i can't see them beating brees. Also may flip on Chiefs Andy Reid plus a half mobile QB doesn't scream certainty to me

The Saints will win twice this weekend? :wow

[Trainwreck2100]

The Saints will win twice this weekend? :wow

Meant the Rams, douche

[Fabbs]

3-1 (Fuck you Parkey!)
Do you know the ball got tipped?

And it was not a low kick.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Meant the Rams, douche

You're the douche for picking against your own team in the playoffs.

Remove star from skin, dingus.

[Darth_Pelican]

You're the douche for picking against your own team in the playoffs.

Remove star from skin, dingus.

The way you always remove your Cowboys skin the moment that they lose? You're the most bandwagon fan in the NFL forum. You only stand with your team when they win.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The way you always remove your Cowboys skin the moment that they lose? You're the most bandwagon fan in the NFL forum. You only stand with your team when they win.

at least I'm not the 49ers fan who sucks Russell Wilson's dick every 10 seconds... I wouldn't consider myself a bandwagon fan at all, I just get pissed off at the leadership of my franchise

[StinkyWeezleteats]

lol Texans

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Saturday Games

Chiefs
Rams

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Sunday games

Chargers
Saints

[Robz4000]

Divisional Round:

Colts
Rams
Patriots
Eagles

2-2, 161-100-2

[Robz4000]

Championship Games:

Patriots
Saints