Take Your Pick: Steve Nash vs Jason Kidd

[FrostKing]

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[lefty]

Kidd

[FrostKing]

Kidd
Yah I think his defense and learning the 3 point shot late in career; gives him the edge. I think Nash might be more influential (gimmicky offense) but if I'm creating a team I prefer Kidd

[Spurtacular]

Less wife beating with Nash, tbh.

[spurraider21]

nash. at his peak, he was better than kidd ever was.

unless you get some frankenstein monster where a younger kidd has older kidd's 3-point shooting

[JakeCuenca]

Nash.

How is this a debate?

[lefty]

Nash is just a better shooter.

Kidd was better at everything else

[bdictjames]

Kidd was a proven winner; Nash had a great style. If you wanna sell tickets, pick Nash. If you wanna win, go with Kidd. But neither can do it on their own.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Nash. He turned scrubs into All stars. Lol at the Knicks paying Stat 100 million. Also today is all about pick n roll and 3 point shooting which Nash was simply better at in his peak. People who bring up Kidd and his improved 3 forget that he only learned how to shoot when he no longer could blaze past people so it's a moot point. Also PG defense is highly overrated imo so I dont care much that kidd was better bc it's not like he could stop nash anyways.

[JohnnyMax]

Nash is better as the man. He can elevate a team to a title contender because of his ability to create all-time great offenses (Dirk/Nash Mavericks, Dantoni Suns).
While Kidd as the man results in mediocre offense and early playoff exits in West. We all know those Nets teams would've been fish food in the West.

Kidd is better as a supporting cast player similar to Kevin Garnett with Boston.

[spurraider21]

Kidd was a proven winner; Nash had a great style. If you wanna sell tickets, pick Nash. If you wanna win, go with Kidd. But neither can do it on their own.
ehh... kidd was making finals playing in a god awful eastern conference in early 2000's and they got smoked by LAL and SAS... Nash was just as much a winner as Kidd except he had to play the spurs in earlier rounds as the suns were in the significantly tougher west.

kidd only won a ring when he was purely a role player on a very good dallas team. you say neither could do it on their own, but look at how nash carried phoenix when stoudemire missed the full season

[lefty]

Nash is just a D'Antoni system player.
And he couldn't defend for shit.

Kidd could shine in any team/system

[DMC]

Either better than Porker

[lefty]

Either better than Porker
Duh

[Clipper Nation]

Nash got exposed on a regular basis against Bibby, Chauncey, even Porker. I'm going with Kidd over Nash all day.

[baseline bum]

Nash easily. Kidd's defense was so overrated. He couldn't stay in front of second year Parker in the Finals and Byron Scott had to force Kerry Kittles on to Parker. Plus Kidd was barely above Rubio level as a shooter until he went to Dallas. Nash though, even in his Dallas days I remember the Spurs switching Avery Johnson on to Dirk repeatedly just to keep Nash out of the lane. Nash is one of the most devastating guards I have seen on the pick and roll and honestly, he'd probably have a ring and a Finals MVP if not for Big Shot Rob putting in work in Game 4. :toast

[Arcadian]

I got Nash. He was the precursor to Curry.

[lefty]

I got Nash. He was the precursor to Curry.
Uh no that would be Abdul Rauf

[adonis827]

but look at how nash carried phoenix when stoudemire missed the full season
Boris Diaw excelled as a point center then but I feel as PG you are supposed to elevate your teammates and not do it alone. It is unfair to expect PGs to do it alone.

Even franchise players like Shaq, Jordan, KG and Duncan etc needs some decent teammates and never did it alone

[adonis827]

Uh no that would be Abdul Rauf

Curry is definitely Nash with way more shots. There was Arenas too without the injuries. Or maybe trigger happy Van Exel

[TDMVPDPOY]

kidd is overrated man, all those triple doubles, how many equate to wins? hence rebound for a pg is not essential but better then none, jack of all trades but master of none...

give me nash, yes he plays no defense, but who cares, he is dangerous with the ball, his a efficient sharp shooter also anywhere on the court u cant leave open, too bad he was passive at scoring...his like stockton and mark price

[baseline bum]

Uh no that would be Abdul Rauf

No he was the precursor to Kaepernick.

[lefty]

No he was the precursor to Kaepernick.
That too

[lefty]

Curry is definitely Nash with way more shots. There was Arenas too without the injuries. Or maybe trigger happy Van Exel

What about Mark Price?

[Chucho]

Nash. All day every day. If he shot even just 25% more per game, he gets into GOAT PG territory. He is the victim of playing in the most dominant conference in all of sports ever and came damn close many times. Better shooter, better passer. JKidds D is over rated as fuck as is his ability to knock the 3 down later in his career.

[HarlemHeat37]

Nash and it isn't even close..

Kidd is the most overrated player of all-time..a "historic" PG that only led 1 or 2 above average offenses during his entire career is pathetic..

[TDMVPDPOY]

u have to select 1 of the 2
1 is a wife beater
the other is a known cuck...

ummm interesting selection to choose from

[namlook]

kidd is overrated man, all those triple doubles, how many equate to wins?...

Nash was overrated too. How many other MVPs have never made it to the finals? Derrick Rose?

[lefty]

Nash is just a system player, a glorified Fat Lever .

Dirk was the man in Dallas when Nash was there

Dirk won a ring without Nash

Dirk won a ring with Kidd


Tbh

[Blake]

I'd like to see what Kidd would do in a DAntoni system.

[ambchang]

Nash. All day every day. If he shot even just 25% more per game, he gets into GOAT PG territory. He is the victim of playing in the most dominant conference in all of sports ever and came damn close many times. Better shooter, better passer. JKidds D is over rated as fuck as is his ability to knock the 3 down later in his career.

I’d not say Nash was a better passer. In the pick and roll yes, but as an overall passer Kidd was better.

[lefty]

I'd like to see what Kidd would do in a DAntoni system.
He would be even greater

[Killakobe81]

I’d not say Nash was a better passer. In the pick and roll yes, but as an overall passer Kidd was better.

This, tbh

[baseline bum]

I’d not say Nash was a better passer. In the pick and roll yes, but as an overall passer Kidd was better.

Especially when he passed his five fingers over Joumana's face.

[HarlemHeat37]

Kidd's final stint with the Mavs was the role he should have played his entire career..he was perfect as a role player once he learned how to shoot, but there's a reason his offenses were consistently terrible..

He's the face of nostalgia, though..handchecking defense, pass-first, can't shoot..

[MB20]

TP9

[Clipper Nation]

Nash is just a system player, a glorified Fat Lever .

Dirk was the man in Dallas when Nash was there

Dirk won a ring without Nash

Dirk won a ring with Kidd


Tbh
Dirk immediately became a much better player after Nash left. Weird how Nash's fanboys always gloss over that.

[140]

Kidd easily tbh. Top 5 bball in of all time.

[DMC]

Nash's incredible weakness on defense is why the SSOL had to be run in the 1st place. He was a monster on offense from many different perspectives but a huge liability on defense. It's a two way game, and I honestly believe Goran Dragic would have taken those Suns teams further than Nash did.

[DMC]

TP9

Tony's in Texas, hurricane Harvey destroys it. Tony goes to NC.... Flo

Tony runs his mouth, KL quits. Tony leaves anyhow.

Yeah Tony is great.