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Blake
09-14-2018, 02:03 PM
Retarded? That's not very woke of you. Ask Ben Sasse if Trump is a conservative Republican. The only thing he's passed is tax cuts. That's it. And wasteful spending? That's a key cog of the Democrat party.

Wasteful spending is a politicIan thing that goes for both parties.

You're batting 000 here

boutons_deux
09-14-2018, 02:03 PM
Capitalism promotes individualism and competence. Socialism promotes team work, solidarity and equality.

Capitalism is ONLY the amassing of Capital, amassing without end, and at any (external) cost.

Any purported redeeming features are offset.

baseline bum
09-14-2018, 02:10 PM
Retarded? That's not very woke of you. Ask Ben Sasse if Trump is a conservative Republican. The only thing he's passed is tax cuts. That's it. And wasteful spending? That's a key cog of the Democrat party.

LOL Ben Sasse and Bob Corker and Jeff Flake who talk a lot of crap about Trump for the cameras and then still vote with him anyways. Wasteful spending not being a key cog of the Republican party after seeing their work in Iraq. :lmao

I remember when shitheads like you used to say Bush was really a Democrat too ten years ago here.

koriwhat
09-14-2018, 02:33 PM
If he does drugs then he is still a druggy that does more here than you do.

You should leave.

keep sucking the celebrity cock cuck boy. it suits you better than trying to play pretend straight. cuck boy blake the celebrity fluffer.

koriwhat
09-14-2018, 02:35 PM
Socialism promotes team work, solidarity and equality.

ahahahaha what a load of bullshit!

Blake
09-14-2018, 02:38 PM
keep sucking the celebrity cock cuck boy. it suits you better than trying to play pretend straight. cuck boy blake the celebrity fluffer.

K, druggy

koriwhat
09-14-2018, 02:42 PM
K, druggy

http://utahoutcasts.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Cuckc.jpg

cd98
09-14-2018, 03:02 PM
LOL Ben Sasse and Bob Corker and Jeff Flake who talk a lot of crap about Trump for the cameras and then still vote with him anyways. Wasteful spending not being a key cog of the Republican party after seeing their work in Iraq. :lmao

I remember when shitheads like you used to say Bush was really a Democrat too ten years ago here.

Hmmm, never said it, but I guess that's the stereotype.

cd98
09-14-2018, 03:03 PM
LOL Ben Sasse and Bob Corker and Jeff Flake who talk a lot of crap about Trump for the cameras and then still vote with him anyways. Wasteful spending not being a key cog of the Republican party after seeing their work in Iraq. :lmao

I remember when shitheads like you used to say Bush was really a Democrat too ten years ago here.

Funny enough Ben Sasse and Jeff Flake gave up their political careers standing up to Trump publicly. When has a Democrat taking that kind of stance against the extremists in their party?

Blake
09-14-2018, 03:04 PM
http://utahoutcasts.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Cuckc.jpg

Angry bird druggy

koriwhat
09-14-2018, 03:05 PM
Angry bird druggy

fucking love drugs! weed and my gluten enzymes are fucking me up!

Blake
09-14-2018, 03:09 PM
fucking love drugs! weed and my gluten enzymes are fucking me up!

Uh huh.

RandomGuy
09-14-2018, 03:38 PM
No. In a perfect capitalist world, everyone would have a good or service they could sell for the same amount as everyone else sells their good or service, and that good or service would enable them to live just as well as anyone else. In a socialist, communist world, the goods and services of some are subpar, unwanted, but we are forced to buy them through collective payment/proxy so that everyone lives as if they have a viable good or service, even the bums.

:lol can't tell the difference between socialism and communism.

baseline bum
09-14-2018, 03:41 PM
Funny enough Ben Sasse and Jeff Flake gave up their political careers standing up to Trump publicly. When has a Democrat taking that kind of stance against the extremists in their party?

Standing up to Trump :lmao

Flake wanted to sell a shitty book. Sasse hasn't done shit to give up his political career.

Winehole23
09-14-2018, 04:11 PM
And wasteful spending? That's a key cog of the Democrat party.Nonsense, borrow and spend has been the Republican SOP since Reagan.

Winehole23
09-14-2018, 04:14 PM
Funny enough Ben Sasse and Jeff Flake gave up their political careers standing up to Trump publicly. too bad neither one has the stones to vote against his policies

Winehole23
09-14-2018, 04:15 PM
or his nominees

Winehole23
09-14-2018, 04:16 PM
according to the latest Monthly Treasury Statement:


government outlays, or total spending, soared to $433.3 billion, were not only 30% higher than a year ago, but the highest government monthly outlay of any month on record.
https://theantimedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/govt-spending-sept-2018.jpg


combined with declining revenue, this resulted in:


an August budget deficit of $214 billion, which was not only one of the highest one-month deficits on record, but also the highest August deficit on record.
https://theantimedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/budget-deficit-ytd.jpg
The August deficit brought the cumulative 2018F budget deficit to over $898BN during the first 11 month of the fiscal year, up a whopping 40% over the past year.
https://theantimedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/deficit-YTD-sept-2018.jpg

FrostKing
09-14-2018, 04:24 PM
In a Capitalist World that "as well as" doesn't exist. Capitalism promotes individualism and competence. Socialism promotes team work, solidarity and equality.
Multiculturalism has fractured societies. That is why it doesn't mix with socialism ~ team work and solidarity

Poland is homogenous so I prefer socialism there. USA is multicultural so prefer capitalism

AaronY
09-14-2018, 04:33 PM
"People like me should give more money"

"Why don't you?"

"It's not mandatory"
"Well we should make it mandatory then."

"Sounds good to me."

"Agreed."

"Agreed."

DMC
09-14-2018, 04:35 PM
:lol can't tell the difference between socialism and communism.

Thus the comma, genius. You really do have poor reading skills, which is likely why you just regurgitate articles with little to no commentary.

DMC
09-14-2018, 04:36 PM
"Well we should make it mandatory then."

"Sounds good to me."

"Agreed."

"Agreed."

Fundamental difference between left and right: Right thinks people should do what they think is right. Left thinks people should be forced to do what they think is right.

boutons_deux
09-14-2018, 04:42 PM
Ryan, etc have told us the deficit from the oligarchy's tax cuts will paid for by destroying the safety net.

So don't nobody act surprised if that happens right after the Repugs get control of the House again.

rmt
09-14-2018, 04:44 PM
Ryan, etc have told us the deficit from the oligarchy's tax cuts will paid for by destroying the safety net.

So don't nobody act surprised if that happens right after the Repugs get control of the House again.

You don't believe in the blue wave, bou?

koriwhat
09-14-2018, 04:52 PM
Fundamental difference between left and right: Right thinks people should do what they think is right. Left thinks people should be forced to do what they think is right.

:tu

boutons_deux
09-14-2018, 04:57 PM
You don't believe in the blue wave, bou?

I don't know. These are weird, unpredictable times, perverted, corrupted by the oligarchy's $Bs.

I don't trust the Dem establishment, aka moderate Repugs, after their failed 2016 policy-free campaign, to be smart, nasty enough to counter the $100Ms the oligarchy is pouring into the Repugs, Repug gerrymandering, rampant voter suppression, Repug vote counting fraud. The Dems will pickup House seats, but probably not enough to get anything done. If anything done, it will be killed in the Senate.

Fucking unfuckable America will continue with only the slightest pause.

dabom
09-14-2018, 04:59 PM
:lol can't tell the difference between socialism and communism.

He doesnt understand how capitalist works either. :lol

Blake
09-14-2018, 05:08 PM
Fundamental difference between left and right: Right thinks people should do what they think is right. Left thinks people should be forced to do what they think is right.

:lol no. It goes both ways.

Blake
09-14-2018, 05:09 PM
:tu

:cry "but I'm not a Republican I'm not I'm not I'm not"

Spurtacular
09-14-2018, 05:20 PM
Fundamental difference between left and right: Right thinks people should do what they think is right. Left thinks people should be forced to do what they think is right.

Nah. Left don't care about what it is right. They're entitled ho bags, mostly.

cd98
09-14-2018, 05:33 PM
too bad neither one has the stones to vote against his policies

What does that even mean? He voted for tax cuts. Ok. But what else? Judicial nominees? The have all been qualified candidates. The only opposition is based on politics, not competency. If Dems had any backbone, they’d vote for him like Republicans did for Ginsburg, an equally qualified judge.

Winehole23
09-14-2018, 06:15 PM
the Dems have no backbone, true, but neither do Sasse and Flake.

they say mean things about Trump but haven't stood in his way procedurally whatsoever.

baseline bum
09-14-2018, 06:48 PM
What does that even mean? He voted for tax cuts. Ok. But what else? Judicial nominees? The have all been qualified candidates. The only opposition is based on politics, not competency. If Dems had any backbone, they’d vote for him like Republicans did for Ginsburg, an equally qualified judge.

Fuck that shit, no Democrat should vote for any of Trump's appointees after McConnell and the senate just decided out of the blue the president doesn't have the right to make a supreme court appointment and get a hearing and a vote and stole Obama's appointment. On top of that fuck Kavanaugh and his argument that sitting presidents shouldn't be subject to investigations when that piece of shit was part of Ken Starr's investigation into Clinton. He means Republican sitting presidents shouldn't be subject to investigations.

cd98
09-14-2018, 06:50 PM
the Dems have no backbone, true, but neither do Sasse and Flake.

they say mean things about Trump but haven't stood in his way procedurally whatsoever.

Really? They both gave up their chance at reelection to stand up to Trump. Not sure I know of other politicians that were willing to become unpopular with their party by speaking out against the President. Certainly no dem ever crossed Obama.

cd98
09-14-2018, 06:51 PM
Fuck that shit, no Democrat should vote for any of Trump's appointees after McConnell and the senate just decided out of the blue the president doesn't have the right to make a supreme court appointment and get a hearing and a vote and stole Obama's appointment. On top of that fuck Kavanaugh and his argument that sitting presidents shouldn't be subject to investigations when that piece of shit was part of Ken Starr's investigation into Clinton. He means Republican sitting presidents shouldn't be subject to investigations.

Your just a party loyalist. You have no idea what is required to sit on the bench.

AaronY
09-14-2018, 06:51 PM
Fundamental difference between left and right: Right thinks people should do what they think is right. Left thinks people should be forced to do what they think is right.
I think I seen this quote shorter before and on someones pickup truck bumper.

baseline bum
09-14-2018, 06:53 PM
Your just a party loyalist. You have no idea what is required to sit on the bench.

GOP gets to play dirty and then it's all about unity when your party is in power? Bullshit. Fuck off.

cd98
09-14-2018, 07:05 PM
GOP gets to play dirty and then it's all about unity when your party is in power? Bullshit. Fuck off.

Garland would be on the bench but for Harry Reid. GOP played DEM game.

Winehole23
09-14-2018, 07:08 PM
Really? They both gave up their chance at reelection to stand up to Trump. Not sure I know of other politicians that were willing to become unpopular with their party by speaking out against the President. Certainly no dem ever crossed Obama.Too chicken to criticize Trump and face their constituents at the polls? What heroes.

baseline bum
09-14-2018, 07:14 PM
Garland would be on the bench but for Harry Reid. GOP played DEM game.

No, the Democrats not only gave hearings but confirmed Kennedy in Reagan's final year. The GOP game is all McConnell. Eight years of obstruction and now you fuckers think you're entitled to unity from the other side.

baseline bum
09-14-2018, 07:15 PM
Too chicken to criticize Trump and face their constituents at the polls? What heroes.

Plus one had a book to sell and needed to drum up interest by going on a TV network tour.

koriwhat
09-14-2018, 07:24 PM
:cry "but I'm not a Republican I'm not I'm not I'm not"

i'm not. just like i'm not you and thank god for that. would suck to be a bitch like you.

DMC
09-14-2018, 07:27 PM
:lol no. It goes both ways.

This makes no sense.

DMC
09-14-2018, 07:28 PM
I think I seen this quote shorter before and on someones pickup truck bumper.

Were you bent over the tailgate? I think I know you. Bob is that you?

Blake
09-14-2018, 08:05 PM
This makes no sense.

If you seriously can't think of ways the right wants to force people to do what they think is right then you're completely out of touch.

DMC
09-14-2018, 08:08 PM
If you seriously can't think of ways the right wants to force people to do what they think is right then you're completely out of touch.

Another "I can't wait to disagree" retort that comes without even understanding what I said.

The left knows what they want but they need someone to force them to do it. Otherwise why say you're for paying more money but only if someone forces you to pay it?

Winehole23
09-14-2018, 08:15 PM
The left knows what they want but they need someone to force them to do it. Otherwise why say you're for paying more money but only if someone forces you to pay it?Jeff Bezos been listening to Bernie:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/science/2018/09/13/amazon-ceo-jeff-bezos-announces-2-billion-charity-fund/1289788002/

Winehole23
09-14-2018, 08:17 PM
but, not a penny more for Amazon employees worked like coolies and paid starvation wages.

go figure.

DMC
09-14-2018, 08:19 PM
Jeff Bezos been listening to Bernie:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/science/2018/09/13/amazon-ceo-jeff-bezos-announces-2-billion-charity-fund/1289788002/

He should consider giving some to Elon Musk.

Winehole23
09-14-2018, 08:24 PM
He should consider giving some to Elon Musk.Elon Musk has amply earned what's coming to him. It'd be a shame if anyone interfered.

boutons_deux
09-14-2018, 08:58 PM
but, not a penny more for Amazon employees worked like coolies and paid starvation wages.

go figure.

like a lot of billionaires, eg, the Kock Bros, they give away money like that to "buy friends", buy goodwill, and shut people up.

AaronY
09-15-2018, 04:40 AM
Were you bent over the tailgate? I think I know you. Bob is that you?
Haha ha excellent counterpoint

DAF86
09-15-2018, 12:14 PM
Fundamental difference between left and right: Right thinks people should do what they think is right. Left thinks people should be forced to do what they think is right.

Suuuure. That's why right wing people are so open to gay marriage, abortion and things like that, right?

DAF86
09-15-2018, 12:20 PM
Another "I can't wait to disagree" retort that comes without even understanding what I said.

The left knows what they want but they need someone to force them to do it. Otherwise why say you're for paying more money but only if someone forces you to pay it?

Except they do, most of these "left wing celebrities" have charitable foundations. They ask for policies that promote equality because they know charitable foundations aren't enough if you want to make a real change.

Blake
09-15-2018, 12:35 PM
Another "I can't wait to disagree" retort that comes without even understanding what I said.

The left knows what they want but they need someone to force them to do it. Otherwise why say you're for paying more money but only if someone forces you to pay it?

That makes no sense

DMC
09-15-2018, 03:22 PM
Except they do, most of these "left wing celebrities" have charitable foundations. They ask for policies that promote equality because they know charitable foundations aren't enough if you want to make a real change.

That wasn't how the conversation was flowing. You're lost again.

DMC
09-15-2018, 03:22 PM
That makes no sense

I'd expect you to struggle with truth.

DMC
09-15-2018, 03:26 PM
Suuuure. That's why right wing people are so open to gay marriage, abortion and things like that, right?

This makes no sense either. Right wing people think they should not have Gay marriage or abortion. They think you shouldn't have either. What they want to force is protection of what they consider sacred, which is marriage in once instance and life in the other. They don't say "I don't believe in Gay marriage, but I am having a Gay wedding I just wish someone would outlaw it" or "I am pro-life but I am having an abortion because it's legal".

OTOH, liberals are saying "We want rich people taxed heavier, but I am not going to volunteer any money... it has to be forced from me by law".

AaronY
09-15-2018, 04:37 PM
This makes no sense either. Right wing people think they should not have Gay marriage or abortion. They think you shouldn't have either. What they want to force is protection of what they consider sacred, which is marriage in once instance and life in the other. They don't say "I don't believe in Gay marriage, but I am having a Gay wedding I just wish someone would outlaw it" or "I am pro-life but I am having an abortion because it's legal".

OTOH, liberals are saying "We want rich people taxed heavier, but I am not going to volunteer any money... it has to be forced from me by law".
thats deep mane

DAF86
09-15-2018, 06:32 PM
This makes no sense either. Right wing people think they should not have Gay marriage or abortion. They think you shouldn't have either. What they want to force is protection of what they consider sacred, which is marriage in once instance and life in the other. They don't say "I don't believe in Gay marriage, but I am having a Gay wedding I just wish someone would outlaw it" or "I am pro-life but I am having an abortion because it's legal".

You said: "Right thinks people should do what they think is right."

Gay people think they should be allowed to get married, yet the right wants the law to tell them they can't. That seems like forcing people to do what the right wants, tbh.


OTOH, liberals are saying "We want rich people taxed heavier, but I am not going to volunteer any money... it has to be forced from me by law".

That's a lie. Like I told you earlier, left celebrities are already volunteering money.

boutons_deux
09-15-2018, 06:57 PM
goddamn, these ST rightwingnutjobs are fuckin stupid.

DMC
09-15-2018, 07:22 PM
You said: "Right thinks people should do what they think is right."

Gay people think they should be allowed to get married, yet the right wants the law to tell them they can't. That seems like forcing people to do what the right wants, tbh.



That's a lie. Like I told you earlier, left celebrities are already volunteering money.

You really don't grasp simple concepts.

Blake
09-15-2018, 11:24 PM
I'd expect you to struggle with truth.

K, link your claim.

Otherwise lol "truth"

Blake
09-15-2018, 11:27 PM
You really don't grasp simple concepts.

You like to spin.

Blake
09-15-2018, 11:32 PM
This makes no sense either. Right wing people think they should not have Gay marriage or abortion. They think you shouldn't have either. What they want to force is protection of what they consider sacred, which is marriage in once instance and life in the other. They don't say "I don't believe in Gay marriage, but I am having a Gay wedding I just wish someone would outlaw it" or "I am pro-life but I am having an abortion because it's legal".

OTOH, liberals are saying "We want rich people taxed heavier, but I am not going to volunteer any money... it has to be forced from me by law".

Lol "they want to force protection of what they consider sacred".

They want to force that unwed mother to have the baby.

You're an idiot.

DMC
09-16-2018, 11:00 AM
K, link your claim.

Otherwise lol "truth"
If you're going to interject, I expect you to have read the material you're responding to. I won't hand-hold you so you can catch up.


You like to spin.
This doesn't negate my statement.


Lol "they want to force protection of what they consider sacred".

They want to force that unwed mother to have the baby.

You're an idiot.
They think they are protecting the baby. They don't try to force her to get pregnant, be unwed or keep the baby.

Also, there's nothing in their stance that differentiates between wed and unwed. Do you think married women don't have abortions?

Blake
09-16-2018, 12:05 PM
They think they are protecting the baby. They don't try to force her to get pregnant, be unwed or keep the baby.

Also, there's nothing in their stance that differentiates between wed and unwed. Do you think married women don't have abortions?

Unwed is just part of the usual religious rant of the right. You're right, it's no big deal to say it.

But they absolutely want to force women to keep babies.

If you don't think there are conservatives out there that are against abortions but have them within the confines of the current law, then you're pretty stupid.

Blake
09-16-2018, 12:10 PM
Lol that was easy to find

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/republican-politician-pro-life-tim-murphy-woman-affair-abortion-urged-us-congressman-a7982476.html

Blake
09-16-2018, 12:12 PM
If you're going to interject, I expect you to have read the material you're responding to. I won't hand-hold you so you can catch up.

It's your claim of "truth" on an open message board.

If you can't back it up I'll just lol. Like usual.

DMC
09-16-2018, 02:38 PM
Unwed is just part of the usual religious rant of the right. You're right, it's no big deal to say it.

But they absolutely want to force women to keep babies.

If you don't think there are conservatives out there that are against abortions but have them within the confines of the current law, then you're pretty stupid.


Lol that was easy to find

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/republican-politician-pro-life-tim-murphy-woman-affair-abortion-urged-us-congressman-a7982476.html


It's your claim of "truth" on an open message board.

If you can't back it up I'll just lol. Like usual.

Start a thread if you're interested.

Blake
09-16-2018, 04:17 PM
Start a thread if you're interested.

No, I'll just lol at your bull crap like usual.

Lol.

DMC
09-16-2018, 04:42 PM
No, I'll just lol at your bull crap like usual.

Lol.

Whatever keeps you quiet.

Blake
09-16-2018, 06:18 PM
Whatever keeps you quiet.

Lol DMC

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