Hostel of Josh Heustis

[Dverde]

Josh Heustis signs deal ... https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/spurs-josh-huestis-receives-exhibit-10-deal/

https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1041732001450156032

https://clutchpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Former-Thunder-1st-round-pick-Josh-Huestis-gets-a-deal-to-training-camp-1000x600.jpg

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuzt3di_bQU

[exstatic]

#hotgarbage

[TimmyBuckets]

What's wrong with this guy? Is he too slow? It says on BR that he played PF mostly on OKC. He looks like a good defender. If he can shoot the three, why not? We need a 3 that can defend, no?

[ceperez]

He's a pretty good 3 and D project to build on. His one weakness is his inconsistent shooting. Chip may be able to fix this.

[cd021]

He's a pretty good 3 and D project to build on. His one weakness is his inconsistent shooting. Chip may be able to fix this.


What's wrong with this guy? Is he too slow? It says on BR that he played PF mostly on OKC. He looks like a good defender. If he can shoot the three, why not? We need a 3 that can defend, no?

Said this several times, but he's had four years of college, two years of G-league play and three years with OKC and is still one of the worst shooters in the league.

[exstatic]

D

Said this several times, but he's had four years of college, two years of G-league play and three years with OKC and is still one of the worst shooters in the league.

...and rapidly approaching his 27th birthday. If he were 23-24, I'd say sure, but he's just to damn old to still be a project. He has no offensive skills at all.

[ceperez]

Block machine:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=43&v=TjldMTyKRcM

[exstatic]

Block machine:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=43&v=TjldMTyKRcM

d-league highlights...

[ceperez]

d-league highlights...

NBA level consecutive blocks that wins the game!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PSL7ivS14k

[NameLess Scrub]

NameLess Scrub

[exstatic]

NBA level consecutive blocks that wins the game!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PSL7ivS14k

Nothing in the d-league is NBA level. He blocked some d-league scrubs, and probably bricked half a dozen jumpers.

Sam Presti is a talent evaluator second to none, and if he's given up on this clown, he needs to be cut clean, no two way contract. He's unplayable, a failure in the g-league.

[TD 21]

All valid points as to why he's more than likely not an NBA player. Still, given how dire the situation is on the wing, I don't mind taking a look at damn near any able bodied 20 something with his physical tools and relative experience.

There's no reason they should be in this situation. The likes of Anderson, Luwawu-Cabarrot and Richardson could have been had for little to nothing, yet they inexplicably passed. I realize all 3 have been bad - terrible so far, but they're the types teams in the Spurs predicament should be interested in.

[TimmyBuckets]

Said this several times, but he's had four years of college, two years of G-league play and three years with OKC and is still one of the worst shooters in the league.


...and rapidly approaching his 27th birthday. If he were 23-24, I'd say sure, but he's just to damn old to still be a project. He has no offensive skills at all.

Oh :depressed

[4lifecowboy]

Our next Danny Green.

[ceperez]

Bruce Bowen joined the Spurs on his 7th season in the NBA. In his previous season he shot .336 from 3 point.

So don't count out a potential 3 and D player for the Spurs because of his age and previous lack of production.

Besides, Heustis obviously has above average defense. So if we got Murray who can't shoot, then why not Heustis (who is bigger) who also can't shoot?

[WallyTiger]

:lobt2::lobt:

[Dverde]

Here is his emo whiny blog...

https://jhuestis.wordpress.com

[Dex]

Right now, he fits in the Danny Green mold, but doesn't play as good of defense and can't shoot.

So...yeah.

The Spurs have been known to make diamonds out of coal before, but he seems like a long shot at this point.

[ceperez]

Right now, he fits in the Danny Green mold, but doesn't play as good of defense and can't shoot.

So...yeah.

The Spurs have been known to make diamonds out of coal before, but he seems like a long shot at this point.

That's the fun thing about watching the Spurs. Which nobody can they develop into a somebody.

Everyone's down on Forbes because they know that it doesn't matter how good he can shoot, he's just too small to guard anyone.

Lot of ST hated Kyle Anderson because (despite his skills) he was just unathletically slow.

Heustis has the size and athleticism, just a question of skills.

[Othyus Lalanne]

NameLess Scrub (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49729)

Those guys are a big part of the Spurs. Same would be said about Danny Greem or Jonathon Simmons after his preseason.


Here is his emo whiny blog...

https://jhuestis.wordpress.com

This>>>>>>>>>>Pop's impotent Trump soapboxing.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Training camp fodder...nothing to see here.

[tbdog]

Don't underestimate the importance of training matchups. Spurs often had a big guy just so TD could body up too. Perhaps it's a way for DD to go up against a lengthy player.

[FireMicoHalili]

Said this several times, but he's had four years of college, two years of G-league play and three years with OKC and is still one of the worst shooters in the league.
^ this. I'd love to be proven wrong during the course of the season since any improvement benefits the Spurs and ergo benefits me as a fan, but (and apologies because I don't know how to embed tweets):

Cranjis McBasketball‏ @T1m_NBA (https://twitter.com/T1m_NBA) Sep 6 (https://twitter.com/T1m_NBA/status/1037893680949067776)



Lonzo Ball is unique:
Playmaking: A
Perimeter D: A-
Interior D: A-
Rebounding: A
0 players match that combination of skill grades.BUT, there's also only 1 player grading as poor in Perimeter Shooting, Off Ball Movement, One on One, & Finishing as Lonzo w/1,000+ minutes played

Cranjis McBasketball‏ @T1m_NBA (https://twitter.com/T1m_NBA) Sep 6 (https://twitter.com/T1m_NBA/status/1037894624969465859)More



Cranjis McBasketball Retweeted Frank Costello
Players who played 1000 minutes and were as poor as Lonzo Ball in Perimeter Shooting, Off Ball Movement, One on One ability, and and Finishing:
Josh Huestis - 1001 minutes

DeAndre Liggins (738) and Ryan Arcidiacono (304) are the next closest in minutes played.


David Locke‏ @Lockedonsports (https://twitter.com/Lockedonsports) Aug 25 (https://twitter.com/Lockedonsports/status/1033385919162736640)More



Take players Expected pts per shot based on where they shoot on the floor to their actual points per shot and only 4 players in the NBA last year were worse than Lonzo Ball (min 164 shots) Michael Carter Williams, Josh Huestis, Jawun Evans and Semi Ojelye

[NameLess Scrub]

Those guys are a big part of the Spurs. Same would be said about Danny Greem or Jonathon Simmons after his preseason.

Don't think it'll happen with this one, but you're right.

[phxspurfan]

oo, a Hostel

https://horrorfreaknews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/maxresdefault-2-1024x683.jpg

[John B]

Our next Danny Green.
Hey I cringed every time Danny dribbles the ball, same thing with Bruce. I sincerely hope Spurs coaching staff can turn this kid around. He has so much upside. He’s very smart just reading his blogs. I hope it translates to bball IQ.

[ceperez]

Hey I cringed every time Danny dribbles the ball, same thing with Bruce. I sincerely hope Spurs coaching staff can turn this kid around. He has so much upside. He’s very smart just reading his blogs. I hope it translates to bball IQ.

If Spurs created Bruce Bowen, they certainly can re-create Josh Huestis.

A similar player to Huestis was Shane Battier. Who used his size and smarts to frustrate his opponents. I don't recall Battier having any one elite skill.

[John B]

If Spurs created Bruce Bowen, they certainly can re-create Josh Huestis.

A similar player to Huestis was Shane Battier. Who used his size and smarts to frustrate his opponents. I don't recall Battier having any one elite skill.

Bruce couldn’t dribble nor pass said Pops on an interview when asked to compare Bruce to Kawhitter. Bruce was a true lockdown defender than Battier. Huestis is more athletic than any Bruce, Danny and Battier combined. Can’t wait to see Spurs coaching staff to unleash this kid’s potential.

[Chinook]

Danny Green is a much better player inside the arc than Huestis. Let that sink in.

[exstatic]

Hey I cringed every time Danny dribbles the ball, same thing with Bruce. I sincerely hope Spurs coaching staff can turn this kid around. He has so much upside. He’s very smart just reading his blogs. I hope it translates to bball IQ.

Huestis
Can’t
Fucking
Shoot

If he puts the ball up from 10 feet, it’s coming back out. He’s fucking terrible. You LITERALLY can ignore him on offense. Even his off ball movement is rated poor. At almost 27, you really have to stop talking about potential. He is what he is. Danny Green was 23 when he got here, and was already an above average 3 point shooter.

[ceperez]

Huestis
Can’t
Fucking
Shoot

If he puts the ball up from 10 feet, it’s coming back out. He’s fucking terrible. You LITERALLY can ignore him on offense. Even his off ball movement is rated poor. At almost 27, you really have to stop talking about potential. He is what he is. Danny Green was 23 when he got here, and was already an above average 3 point shooter.

Bruce Bowen shot .363 from the field before the Spurs picked him up. He was already 30 years old and had played 7 years in the NBA.

[exstatic]

Bruce Bowen shot .363 from the field before the Spurs picked him up. He was already 30 years old and had played 7 years in the NBA.

Bruce Bowen also shot .362 FROM THREE POINT LAND before he became a Spur on over 500 attempts. If Huestis had shown ANY ability to shoot AT ALL, I wouldn't be so down on him. If he could stand in the corner like Bruce and snipe away, he could add real value. Unfortunately, he couldn't hit water if he fell out of a fucking boat.

Huestis
Can't
Fucking
Shoot

[TheGreatYacht]

Better than Eubanks tbh

[Atl Spur]

I like Roberson , OKC like Roberson for what ........DEFENSE! Huestis hopefully can bring that trait to the table in aces!

[ceperez]

Bruce Bowen also shot .362 FROM THREE POINT LAND before he became a Spur on over 500 attempts. If Huestis had shown ANY ability to shoot AT ALL, I wouldn't be so down on him. If he could stand in the corner like Bruce and snipe away, he could add real value. Unfortunately, he couldn't hit water if he fell out of a fucking boat.

Huestis
Can't
Fucking
Shoot

Kawhi Leonard shot .291 from 3 point range when left college.

We already know that Heustis can't shoot.... that doesn't mean he can't learn how to shoot under Chip.

Beside Spurs are in DIRE need for a defense stopper of his size.

[Dverde]

He’s going to back up the starters and play limited minutes. Do not understand the obsession with his three point percentage. If no one guards him, he should be able get more offensive rebounds.

[r0drig0lac]

Better than Eubanks tbh

and Forbes..

[exstatic]

I like Roberson , OKC like Roberson for what ........DEFENSE! Huestis hopefully can bring that trait to the table in aces!

I like Roberson, and he can do enough inside of the 3 point line to stay on the floor, AND he is the same age as Huestis, but much more developed. OKC had both, and they kept Roberson.

[exstatic]

He’s going to back up the starters and play limited minutes. Do not understand the obsession with his three point percentage. If no one guards him, he should be able get more offensive rebounds.

His best case is a two way contract out of camp. That means he can do minimal damage, only being able to spend 45 days with the big club. Oh, and guarding someone is different than blocking them out and keeping them off of the glass. They'll do that.

You also misunderstood me. The Spurs like 3 point shooters because they space the floor, but that's not his issue. He has no jumper at all. Not from 15 feet. Not from 10 feet. Not from 5 feet. He's never made an NBA FG between 10-16 feet. Never. He shoots 10% from 3-10 feet.

Huestis
Can't
Fucking
Shoot.

[ceperez]

His best case is a two way contract out of camp. That means he can do minimal damage, only being able to spend 45 days with the big club. Oh, and guarding someone is different than blocking them out and keeping them off of the glass. They'll do that.

You also misunderstood me. The Spurs like 3 point shooters because they space the floor, but that's not his issue. He has no jumper at all. Not from 15 feet. Not from 10 feet. Not from 5 feet. He's never made an NBA FG between 10-16 feet. Never. He shoots 10% from 3-10 feet.

Huestis
Can't
Fucking
Shoot.

For a system like the Spurs, he could be a great fit. Spurs need a good defensive player at the 3. If all he ever does is camp on offense at the corner and hits 3's, then he'll be good enough.

[Dverde]

He’s going to back up the starters and play limited minutes. Do not understand the obsession with his three point percentage. If no one guards him, he should be able get more offensive rebounds.

[TimmyBuckets]

Ya I think ppl are higher on him than Pondexter it seems cuz of his youth and D

[exstatic]

He’s going to back up the starters and play limited minutes. Do not understand the obsession with his three point percentage. If no one guards him, he should be able get more offensive rebounds.

Apparently, you can't fucking read any better than he can shoot. It's not just his 3 pointer that's broken.

He has no jumper at all. Not from 15 feet. Not from 10 feet. Not from 5 feet. He's never made an NBA FG between 10-16 feet. Never. He shoots 10% from 3-10 feet.

[ceperez]

Apparently, you can't fucking read any better than he can shoot. It's not just his 3 pointer that's broken.

Well what about Wahsburn? He average 5 points a game in the G-league. You think he can shoot better?

[exstatic]

Well what about Wahsburn? He average 5 points a game in the G-league. You think he can shoot better?

Training camp fodder, and don't care about or like him, either. You need roughly 20 bodies there to run your drills with proper rest in between.

It's funny that you compare one non-NBA caliber player to another, though. Appropriate.

[Pavlov]

Well what about Wahsburn? He average 5 points a game in the G-league. You think he can shoot better?He actually can shoot better than Huestis, but he's as averse to offense as Anderson was.

[TheGreatYacht]

Upgrade over Ginose, tbh.

[LakerHater]

I think Spurs can mold'em!!

[sananspursfan21]

Said this several times, but he's had four years of college, two years of G-league play and three years with OKC and is still one of the worst shooters in the league.

Can’t be worse than .3 from the line Roberson

[4lifecowboy]

Danny Green is a much better player inside the arc than Huestis. Let that sink in.

Danny Green didn't start off as a reliable outside threat. Huestis just really needs a niche to find in his offensive game, doesn't have to be an all around scoring threat.

[John B]

His best case is a two way contract out of camp. That means he can do minimal damage, only being able to spend 45 days with the big club. Oh, and guarding someone is different than blocking them out and keeping them off of the glass. They'll do that.

You also misunderstood me. The Spurs like 3 point shooters because they space the floor, but that's not his issue. He has no jumper at all. Not from 15 feet. Not from 10 feet. Not from 5 feet. He's never made an NBA FG between 10-16 feet. Never. He shoots 10% from 3-10 feet.

Huestis
Can't
Fucking
Shoot.

I’ve never seen Bruce shot 15, 10 nor 5 footers. And those Danny floaters? Yikes!

[Chinook]

Danny Green didn't start off as a reliable outside threat. Huestis just really needs a niche to find in his offensive game, doesn't have to be an all around scoring threat.

Danny Green started off much better than Huestis. I don't know what people are thinking, but Danny was essentially the same player he was for the Spurs when the was in college.

In his last season at UNC, Green averaged 13/5/3 with a combined blocks/steals of over 3 and on 41-percent shooting from three en route to an NCAA title. He was easily the best defensive player on that team, but he was also the fourth-best offensive player. He was much better than Huestis was in college.

Anyways, I think you should read my post again. Green is obviously and has always been better OUTSIDE the arc. But people don't realize that he is and has been much better than Huestis INSIDE the arc as well. Green at his worst could still finish better, pull-up better and make plays better than Huestis has ever done. It's frankly insulting to Danny to assert he was anywhere near as bad as Josh was. Green was an NBA-caliber player with attitude problems and a perceived lack of upside. Huestis isn't an NBA player. It's very different.

[Chinook]

I’ve never seen Bruce shot 15, 10 nor 5 footers. And those Danny floaters? Yikes!

And yet, Green shoots floaters WAY better than Huestis does. It literally doesn't matter how bad you think Green was/is. Huestis is a lot worse. That's what exstatic has been trying to drive home. Huestis isn't Green. He's not on the same track. He doesn't have the same strengths and weaknesses as Danny did. He's much closer to Julian Washburn or Ralph Putney than he is to Danny.

[ceperez]

And yet, Green shoots floaters WAY better than Huestis does. It literally doesn't matter how bad you think Green was/is. Huestis is a lot worse. That's what exstatic has been trying to drive home. Huestis isn't Green. He's not on the same track. He doesn't have the same strengths and weaknesses as Danny did. He's much closer to Julian Washburn or Ralph Putney than he is to Danny.

I agree, comparing with Green isn't the right one in terms of development. He already could shoot. Now Bruce Bowen and Leonard couldn't shoot and that's where the hope is that Chip can make Heustis into a better shooter. What's the harm in hoping that Chip can create a miracle? I'm saying that Heustis has size and speed that's needed for defense and I'm hoping he can shoot well enough.

Robserson's free throw percentage is 0.316, his 3 point percentage last year was .222!!!

Heustis 3 point % in the g-league was 0.385.... we know the Spurs take only open shots... I don't know what kind of shots they take at OKC... not unreasonable to assume that he can shoot better in a Spurs offensive setup playing as a 3.

[cd021]

Bruce Bowen shot .363 from the field before the Spurs picked him up. He was already 30 years old and had played 7 years in the NBA.

Bowen is an outlier, historically wings in their mid-twenties who are poor 3pt and also FT shooters (considered predictive) almost never become good 3pt shooters.

DeMarre Carrol and Bowen are the only ones that I can think of Huestis getting there isn't likely.

[cd021]

I agree, comparing with Green isn't the right one in terms of development. He already could shoot. Now Bruce Bowen and Leonard couldn't shoot and that's where the hope is that Chip can make Heustis into a better shooter. What's the harm in hoping that Chip can create a miracle? I'm saying that Heustis has size and speed that's needed for defense and I'm hoping he can shoot well enough.

Robserson's free throw percentage is 0.316, his 3 point percentage last year was .222!!!

Heustis 3 point % in the g-league was 0.385.... we know the Spurs take only open shots... I don't know what kind of shots they take at OKC... not unreasonable to assume that he can shoot better in a Spurs offensive setup playing as a 3.

What good is taking open 3s when he flat out can't shoot?

[JPB]

Bruce Bowen joined the Spurs on his 7th season in the NBA. In his previous season he shot .336 from 3 point.

So don't count out a potential 3 and D player for the Spurs because of his age and previous lack of production.

Besides, Heustis obviously has above average defense. So if we got Murray who can't shoot, then why not Heustis (who is bigger) who also can't shoot?

Sure, you'll always take one more guy who can't shoot.

[exstatic]

Bruce Bowen joined the Spurs on his 7th season in the NBA. In his previous season he shot .336 from 3 point.

So don't count out a potential 3 and D player for the Spurs because of his age and previous lack of production.

Besides, Heustis obviously has above average defense. So if we got Murray who can't shoot, then why not Heustis (who is bigger) who also can't shoot?

Murray was 19 when drafted. Huestis is rapidly approaching 27. That's a BIG fucking difference.

There's a reason that NCAA seniors usually fall in the draft. They may be more NBA ready, but your upside shrinks and then disappears as you add years to your age.

[Dverde]

Murray was 19 when drafted. Huestis is rapidly approaching 27. That's a BIG fucking difference.

There's a reason that NCAA seniors usually fall in the draft. They may be more NBA ready, but your upside shrinks and then disappears as you add years to your age.

”rapidly” turning 27....quit being so dramatic. Ya gotta chill out with your hyperbole. Dude is coming training camp, not a multi year deal.

[exstatic]

”rapidly” turning 27....quit being so dramatic. Ya gotta chill out with your hyperbole. Dude is coming training camp, not a multi year deal.

You didn't address the main point: that there is a BIG difference in training up a 19 year old and a 26 year old who's already had chances, and failed pretty hard in both the NBA and the g-league.

The hyperbole is fools comparing him to Danny and Bruce. THAT is beyond ridiculous. Bruce was a very good euro-league player, and shot 36% from NBA 3 before getting here. Danny was a 20ppg scorer who shot 45/45/80 in the g-league. There was something, some NBA skill on O, even if it was just corner 3s, that showed they belonged in the NBA. Huestis hasn't even shown that he belongs in the g-league.

[SpursDynasty85]

You didn't address the main point: that there is a BIG difference in training up a 19 year old and a 26 year old who's already had chances, and failed pretty hard in both the NBA and the g-league.

The hyperbole is fools comparing him to Danny and Bruce. THAT is beyond ridiculous. Bruce was a very good euro-league player, and shot 36% from NBA 3 before getting here. Danny was a 20ppg scorer who shot 45/45/80 in the g-league. There was something, some NBA skill on O, even if it was just corner 3s, that showed they belonged in the NBA. Huestis hasn't even shown that he belongs in the g-league.

Huestis looks like he has potential to be a hustle and D guy with some skills sprinkled in the inside game. Guys like Robert Horry and Reggie Evans comes to mind. I'm still boggled Robert Horry's stats look like utter trash but he was a very important player on the teams he played for. Not all of our roster guys need to be potential scorers and more etc.. Sometimes a guy like Huestis will play 30 mpg gaurding guys like Antetokounpo, PG, Harden, etc and some games I imagine he'll get DNP. He's worth a look.

[exstatic]

Huestis looks like he has potential to be a hustle and D guy with some skills sprinkled in the inside game. Guys like Robert Horry and Reggie Evans comes to mind. I'm still boggled Robert Horry's stats look like utter trash but he was a very important player on the teams he played for. Not all of our roster guys need to be potential scorers and more etc.. Sometimes a guy like Huestis will play 30 mpg gaurding guys like Antetokounpo, PG, Harden, etc and some games I imagine he'll get DNP. He's worth a look.

He finishes at 50% in the restricted area, which is pathetic. He shoots 24% from the FT line. If he's playing NBA minutes at all, we're screwed.

Reggie Evans would be nearly unplayable in today's NBA. Robert Horry was a first round draft pick, and I challenge you to compare his 'trash' stats with Huestis. Horry didn't exactly pan out and become a star, but his stats were anything but trash.

[SpursDynasty85]

He finishes at 50% in the restricted area, which is pathetic. He shoots 24% from the FT line. If he's playing NBA minutes at all, we're screwed.

Reggie Evans would be nearly unplayable in today's NBA. Robert Horry was a first round draft pick, and I challenge you to compare his 'trash' stats with Huestis. Horry didn't exactly pan out and become a star, but his stats were anything but trash.

The point I was making is that Horry's value was much greater than his stats showed. Huestis is one guy and the Spurs need a wing defender badly.

[Chinook]

The point I was making is that Horry's value was much greater than his stats showed. Huestis is one guy and the Spurs need a wing defender badly.

They badly need his defensive ability, but they just-as-badly need to avoid his offensive short-comings.

[SpursDynasty85]

They badly need his defensive ability, but they just-as-badly need to avoid his offensive short-comings.

Last year, I would agree but this year our offense should be much better. Wing defense is what is lacking most this year. Admittedly we would only use him sparingly I'm guessing unless our offense is clicking on all cylinders and can mask his deficiencies.

[BackHome]

Should have just signed Hanga and called it a day

[cd021]

The point I was making is that Horry's value was much greater than his stats showed. Huestis is one guy and the Spurs need a wing defender badly.

Horry, at least in his Spurs years had a tendency to half-ass it during the RS. I actually rewatched that game 7 4th quarter of the Spurs-Pistons game 7 and actually forgot how good playoff Horry was. He was mobile, lanky, could switch or show and recover on D and with Manu and Bowen gave the Spurs spacing on offense for Duncan to operate down low or Parker to drive.


Horrry's advanced numbers were off the charts in the playoffs and serviceable during the season

RS (322 Games for the Spurs)

13.4 P.E.R
+10 Net Rtg
.144 Win Shares per 48
.50 TS%

PS (79 Games for the Spurs)

14.9 P.E.R
+16 Net Rtg :wow
.157 Win Share per 48 minutes
.560 TS%

Comparing Huestis to Horry is baffling. They don't even play the same position and Horry. Plus Horry played in a different era, he retired 10 seasons ago.

[SpursDynasty85]

Horry, at least in his Spurs years had a tendency to half-ass it during the RS. I actually rewatched that game 7 4th quarter of the Spurs-Pistons game 7 and actually forgot how good playoff Horry was. He was mobile, lanky, could switch or show and recover on D and with Manu and Bowen gave the Spurs spacing on offense for Duncan to operate down low or Parker to drive.


Horrry's advanced numbers were off the charts in the playoffs and serviceable during the season

RS (322 Games for the Spurs)

13.4 P.E.R
+10 Net Rtg
.144 Win Shares per 48
.50 TS%

PS (79 Games for the Spurs)

14.9 P.E.R
+16 Net Rtg :wow
.157 Win Share per 48 minutes
.560 TS%

Comparing Huestis to Horry is baffling. They don't even play the same position and Horry. Plus Horry played in a different era, he retired 10 seasons ago.

Huestis has not had the chance to have enough NBA minutes to go purely off advanced stats yet. Point is Horry's value to a team was greater than his stats. True or not? Huestis is not on Horry's level but the way they could use him like a Andre Roberson, a good team can mask Huestis's deficiencies while on the floor when Huestis's defense is needed.

Spurs are playing a swiss army knife approach with players now needing certain players to make up wholes in their roster. Right now our biggest hole is wing defense. Why not bring in the guy who might be the best wing defender? If our other pieces work out the way they should Huestis is a possibility over the other guys.

[ceperez]

Huestis has not had the chance to have enough NBA minutes to go purely off advanced stats yet. Point is Horry's value to a team was greater than his stats. True or not? Huestis is not on Horry's level but the way they could use him like a Andre Roberson, a good team can mask Huestis's deficiencies while on the floor when Huestis's defense is needed.

Spurs are playing a swiss army knife approach with players now needing certain players to make up wholes in their roster. Right now our biggest hole is wing defense. Why not bring in the guy who might be the best wing defender? If our other pieces work out the way they should Huestis is a possibility over the other guys.

I agree, one big hole is 'wing defense'. Manu said it best about Bruce Bowen. Bowen allowed money to save his energy by not having to guard the best offensive player on the other team. I don't expect DeRozan or Gay to have enough energy guarding the Durants and LeBrons of this league. Pondexter might not be healthy enough and Cunningham may not have to foot speed.

[cd021]

Huestis has not had the chance to have enough NBA minutes to go purely off advanced stats yet. Point is Horry's value to a team was greater than his stats. True or not? Huestis is not on Horry's level but the way they could use him like a Andre Roberson, a good team can mask Huestis's deficiencies while on the floor when Huestis's defense is needed.

Spurs are playing a swiss army knife approach with players now needing certain players to make up wholes in their roster. Right now our biggest hole is wing defense. Why not bring in the guy who might be the best wing defender? If our other pieces work out the way they should Huestis is a possibility over the other guys.
Because having a wing that can't do anything other than defend is sort of like going to by just nails at a hardware store, it's inconvenient. Also, Roberson is one of the best defensive wings in the NBA, if Huestis were that good he'd have a guaranteed deal- even if it were on a cheap deal. We don't know if he is even that good to merit a roster spot or a two way.


Anderson and Murray both fit a similar bill last season, though they did have other skills. As a result Pop had to tinker with the lineups to find a way to keep both on the floor at the same time without getting killed offensively.

Is there a realistic lineup that Huestis could play in where is not a problem offensively? If we are talking about 1 sided wings, I'd rather have Belinelli play than Huestis, he is far better at his side of the ball than Huestis is at his.

[SpursDynasty85]

Because having a wing that can't do anything other than defend is sort of like going to by just nails at a hardware store, it's inconvenient. Also, Roberson is one of the best defensive wings in the NBA, if Huestis were that good he'd have a guaranteed deal- even if it were on a cheap deal. We don't know if he is even that good to merit a roster spot or a two way.


Anderson and Murray both fit a similar bill last season, though they did have other skills. As a result Pop had to tinker with the lineups to find a way to keep both on the floor at the same time without getting killed offensively.

Is there a realistic lineup that Huestis could play in where is not a problem offensively? If we are talking about 1 sided wings, I'd rather have Belinelli play than Huestis, he is far better at his side of the ball than Huestis is at his.

We are talking about the 15th man on the roster. I trust the coaches will evaluate the team and make the right choice. No one else stands out honestly. We need a defensive wing. Andre Roberson makes $12M/yr too. Huestis is looking at a minimum of just above that and possibly not playing most games. Seems dumb to scrutinize him taking a training camp spot when he could be the best defensive wing for us.

[cd021]

We are talking about the 15th man on the roster. I trust the coaches will evaluate the team and make the right choice. No one else stands out honestly. We need a defensive wing. Andre Roberson makes $12M/yr too. Huestis is looking at a minimum of just above that and possibly not playing most games. Seems dumb to scrutinize him taking a training camp spot when he could be the best defensive wing for us.

I don't know what Blossomgame is in the NBA but I would much rather have him.

[KDKSpurs24]

I don't know what Blossomgame is in the NBA but I would much rather have him.
I’d rather have Okaro White than Huestis.

[ceperez]

The 15th position is up for grabs between these SFs:

Pondexter
Heustis
O. White
Blossomgame

The two way contract is available only to:

Heustis
Blossomgame

Let's see who comes out of this 'hunger games' scenario.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

his last year in gleague he shot 39% on almost 6 3pts a game ... he shot very rarely in nba so maybe just maybe he doesnt super suck but probably

[Dverde]

Hostel is temporarily closed.
http://thehostelworker.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Funny-Hostel-Sign-1-400x400.jpg

[exstatic]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/f97abf9a2cd52b1efe12122e8e299151/tenor.gif?itemid=8629854

[SAGirl]

hm so he's not in training camp and instead Blossomgame, Okaro White got deals.

Also, Nick Johnson.

Seems the coaches have changed their minds up a lot or Huestis got a deal somewhere else. I looked up twitter to see if there are any news about him but nothing. ... heh, he fell off the radar b4 we even saw the team scrimmage.

[SAGirl]

The 15th position is up for grabs between these SFs:

Pondexter
Heustis
O. White
Blossomgame

The two way contract is available only to:

Heustis
Blossomgame

Let's see who comes out of this 'hunger games' scenario.

I like the "hunger games"... it's what makes preseason so interesting.

Seems like someone was already eliminated tho.

[Dverde]

Maybe he changed his mind and decided to play overseas.

[ceperez]

I like the "hunger games"... it's what makes preseason so interesting.

Seems like someone was already eliminated tho.

We'll have to find out what happened. There are 19 players in the roster of a max of 20. He may have been eliminated prior to the games starting or he may have decided he to bail for something else.

Hanlan also is missing. He may be in same situation as Brinmah and Washburn.

[NASpurs]

Were the bodies of Hanlan and Huestis ever found? Dudes just disappeared from the face of the Earth.

[ceperez]

Were the bodies of Hanlan and Huestis ever found? Dudes just disappeared from the face of the Earth.

Still searching. We'll let you know when they turn up.

[Chinook]

hm so he's not in training camp and instead Blossomgame, Okaro White got deals.

Also, Nick Johnson.

Seems the coaches have changed their minds up a lot or Huestis got a deal somewhere else. I looked up twitter to see if there are any news about him but nothing. ... heh, he fell off the radar b4 we even saw the team scrimmage.

I think Blossomgame and Hanlan might have pulled a fast one and PATFO and forced their way into camp. That could be what has caused so much turmoil.

[Pavlov]

lol turmoil

Hanlan was waived Sunday.

[SAGirl]

I think Blossomgame and Hanlan might have pulled a fast one and PATFO and forced their way into camp. That could be what has caused so much turmoil.
Good guess. For Hanlan I thought he was just waived to allocate to the Gleague team. I have seen those early waivers and allocations in the past, but I never really understood the rules, it seemed a procedural matter. Spurs do lose rights to him after this waiver tho, so he might just have forced his way in and out.

Blossomgame might have pulled a Deshaun Thomas. Thomas at least stuck around all of training camp and was waived after all games were played in preseason. So Spurs had a good look at him. Blossom might be angling for the same opportunity and bets on himself he can stick around in the Spurs, and failing that, elsewhere.

[Pavlov]

Good guess. For Hanlan I thought he was just waived to allocate to the Gleague team. I have seen those early waivers and allocations in the past, but I never really understood the rules, it seemed a procedural matter. Spurs do lose rights to him after this waiver tho, so he might just have forced his way in and out.He got a bonus for signing and now can be picked up by any team if he stays in the G-League this season.


Blossomgame might have pulled a Deshaun Thomas. Thomas at least stuck around all of training camp and was waived after all games were played in preseason. So Spurs had a good look at him. Blossom might be angling for the same opportunity and bets on himself he can stick around in the Spurs, and failing that, elsewhere.He made it farther than Hanlan FWIW.

I believe the roster stands at 19 so theoretically Huestis could still be added.

[SAGirl]

He got a bonus for signing and now can be picked up by any team if he stays in the G-League this season.

He made it farther than Hanlan FWIW.

I believe the roster stands at 19 so theoretically Huestis could still be added.

Thanks for that explanation. It's just so weird nothing was released about what happened to him. One of my guesses was that he took himself elsewhere.

[Pavlov]

Thanks for that explanation. It's just so weird nothing was released about what happened to him. One of my guesses was that he took himself elsewhere.It's as good a guess as any. The other guess is Hanlan had to be signed and waived to fit Huestis in now. The radio silence is a little puzzling, but not unusual this deep in the roster.

[Truth4sale$]

Hanlan can play, I hope he is comfortable playing in the Gleague 1 more year. It is a numbers game. Too many guards, with either more potential (Lonnie Walker) or more experience ( Mills, Bertonili)

[Truth4sale$]

If my choice is Heustis, Blossomgame or Pointdexter for the 15th spot. I prefer Blossomgame for his higher upside. He has some useful skills. But I am good with him getting a two way deal letting the veterans sit the 15th spot

[Pavlov]

Apparently the bonuses kick in after 60 days in the G-League after training camp, so those guys should be in Austin til at least the showcase barring some great deal elsewhere.

[JPB]

Premature ejaculation thread.

[ceperez]

Blossomgame gets waived.

Pondexter doesn't look like an NBA player.

Looks like Spurs got Huestis to sign.

Rise of the Phoenix!

[Dverde]

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/53ded70ee4b0c9befeccbea4/t/586715c0f7e0abf6d52f1005/1483150789384/

[ceperez]

I just discovered... Huestis has a jones fracture (right foot).... he's injured!

kudos for Spurs signing him despite his injury.

What this means is that Huestis is likely going to play for the Spurs in the regular season. Either as a two-way contract or the 15th spot.

Why sign a guy who is injured?

[SAGirl]

I just discovered... Huestis has a jones fracture (right foot).... he's injured!

kudos for Spurs signing him despite his injury.

What this means is that Huestis is likely going to play for the Spurs in the regular season. Either as a two-way contract or the 15th spot.

Why sign a guy who is injured?
What??? He has a Jones fracture? Nothing was released about his status and the S A media never inquired. He simply disappeared off the radar. Spurs signed him despite a Jones fracture? When is he expected to play? Sounds like a charity case...

[ceperez]

What??? He has a Jones fracture? Nothing was released about his status and the S A media never inquired. He simply disappeared off the radar. Spurs signed him despite a Jones fracture? When is he expected to play? Sounds like a charity case...

The rumor was that he signed with a Chinese basketball team. But I doubt a Chinese team would sign an injured player.

This will explain why you might not see him play in the last two pre-season games. I'll be surprised that he has recovered from his injury.

Charity? No, I think they see the potential in this player. They waived Blossomgame, so it's likely Huestis is a much better player.

[SAGirl]

The rumor was that he signed with a Chinese basketball team. But I doubt a Chinese team would sign an injured player.

This will explain why you might not see him play in the last two pre-season games. I'll be surprised that he has recovered from his injury.

Charity? No, I think they see the potential in this player. They waived Blossomgame, so it's likely Huestis is a much better player.
You are probably right that they liked him better in practices but a Jones fracture is serious. He may not play for many weeks if not months.

[Pavlov]

I just discovered... Huestis has a jones fracture (right foot).... he's injured!Source?

[bklynspursfan]

Source?

1049740483235340293

[exstatic]

https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/sports/2018/10/09/josh-huestis-injured-but-signs-contract-san-antonio-spurs/1581262002/

[NASpurs]

1049740483235340293

Explains his disappearance.

That's a new one though. We're signing guys who are already injured.

[Pavlov]

1049740483235340293Thanks. Guess we'll see him when we see Walker.

[ceperez]

Explains his disappearance.

That's a new one though. We're signing guys who are already injured.

Yes, first time I've ever seen the Spurs do this.

[Hoops Czar]

1049740483235340293
It took Durant a long time to completely heal from a Jones fracture.

Maybe the Spurs made a deal with his agent that if the Spurs signed him, he could continue to collect health insurance and in return, he would mop the floors at night.

[bklynspursfan]

It took Durant a long time to completely heal from a Jones fracture.

Maybe the Spurs made a deal with his agent that if the Spurs signed him, he could continue to collect health insurance and in return, he would mop the floors at night.

In fairness, snakes probably take a bit longer to heal from such injuries.

[BackHome]

If they did surgery about 4 months before he plays but Spurs probably 5 months no rush. So probably be back on the floor in January

[exstatic]

If they did surgery about 4 months before he plays but Spurs probably 5 months no rush. So probably be back on the floor in January

WTF are you talking about? At no point was surgery even mentioned.

[playbonner15]

It took Durant a long time to completely heal from a Jones fracture.

Maybe the Spurs made a deal with his agent that if the Spurs signed him, he could continue to collect health insurance and in return, he would mop the floors at night.

:lmao Spurms

[BackHome]

Calm down EX I said “If” if he is just letting it heal then 6 to 8 weeks but is more likely to break again if he selected not to have surgery

[venitian navigator]

there was something weird in his disappearance and lack of news (i've red somewhere he was supposed to have signed for a chinese team, but no real link about that). The point is that the F.O. obviously see a very very good (defensive) value in him, considering they waived Blossomgame and that he may not be available for months due to the fracture he suffered...

[dbestpro]

His fx is considered mild and is expected to recover in 6-8 weeks from dx. Which, means that he may have another 2-4 weeks out before he gets back on the court. 75% of the patients will make a complete recover in this disposition without need for further tx.

[anonymouse]

Ty

[BackHome]

Yeah but 25% of patients break it again that’s why most athletes select surgery even more for basketball players who run and jump on hard service.

[JeffDuncan]

But... but... the Spurs medical staff has cleared him to play! </lunacy>

[cd021]

I've been out of the loop for the last few days, so is Blossomgame already been ruled out for the 2 way spot?

[exstatic]

I've been out of the loop for the last few days, so is Blossomgame already been ruled out for the 2 way spot?

He's been waived, so, yeah.

[Dverde]

Don’t count on Huestis coming back anytime soon...he had a blog post in Oct talking about his injury.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5b71f2ed25bf021d52c92e22/t/5bbe7532ec212d4a1f4f95a7/1539208512988/IMG_3797.JPG?format=750w

https://www.jhuestisbasketball.com/blog/nocoincidence

[exstatic]

Don’t count on Huestis coming back anytime soon...he had a blog post in Oct talking about his injury.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5b71f2ed25bf021d52c92e22/t/5bbe7532ec212d4a1f4f95a7/1539208512988/IMG_3797.JPG?format=750w

https://www.jhuestisbasketball.com/blog/nocoincidence
He's actually supposed to be ready some time in December. The recovery time for Jones fracture surgery is 6-8 weeks, and that blog post was like 5 weeks old. I'm not a huge fan, other than his defensive chops, but it seems that the Spurs may be saving that second two way contract slot for Josh.

[Dverde]

I think he’s gonna be in the G League for atleast a couple weeks...I doubt we see him in 2018

[NameLess Scrub]

Was this the Scrub some people where excited about because of 1 shot he blocked that one time?

Hope he gets better soon.

[exstatic]

Was this the Scrub some people where excited about because of 1 shot he blocked that one time?

Hope he gets better soon.

He's actually elite defensively, but his offense, to this point, is not a zero, it's a minus...a negative. If they can get him to stand in the corner and hit threes, he would be a good 'get'.

[NameLess Scrub]

He's actually elite defensively, but his offense, to this point, is not a zero, it's a minus...a negative. If they can get him to stand in the corner and hit threes, he would be a good 'get'.

I see.

He any good in transition?

[BackHome]

Sorry but he had surgery to repair the break which will keep him
out 4 months and longer if he needed a bone graft.

[slick'81]

Sorry but he had surgery to repair the break which will keep him
out 4 months and longer if he needed a bone graft.


Who cares? Dude isnt moving any needle tbh

[exstatic]

Sorry but he had surgery to repair the break which will keep him
out 4 months and longer if he needed a bone graft.

Bone grafts are normally only done for repeated fractures of the same metatarsal.

[Atl Spur]

He’s better offensively then Roberson; he may end up surprising some of you.

[exstatic]

He’s better offensively then Roberson; he may end up surprising some of you.

No he's not. He's had two years where his Ortg is 91 or less, and his OBPM is strongly negative, like less than -4.0. That's a lot for a guy who doesn't play a ton of minutes. He's also never hit a jumper from between 10 and 16 feet in his entire NBA career.

Make no mistake: up to this point in his NBA career, he's been an offensive boat anchor.

[BackHome]

I’ll take Julian Washburn over him any day I think the Spurs organization is just doing him a solid since he hurt himself working out for us.

[Chinook]

Still trying to figure out why folks keep saying Hue is an elite defender. He certainly hasn't shown that at the NBA level. I mean, compared to some on the team, he is probably really good, but folks are acting like he's shut down big-name guys on the reg or something. He'd've been the five-best perimeter defender on the roster last year.

[SAGirl]

I think he’s gonna be in the G League for atleast a couple weeks...I doubt we see him in 2018
That’s exactly what I expect too. Maybe next January he gets called up, maybe. If the Spurs have been in a freefall and a tank by then I don’t see the point.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Making his G-league debut right now, dude looks completely out of shape.

[Pavlov]

Fat? Not that I see.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Fat? Not that I see.
Yeah my bad I had to take that back lol for some reason he looked it at first glance. Does look out of shape though and extremely slow. What was his injury?

[Pavlov]

Yeah my bad I had to take that back lol for some reason he looked it at first glance. Does look out of shape though and extremely slow. What was his injury?Broken foot.

Is Ledbetter out? The halfcourt offense is dogshit when Johnson is out.

[Pavlov]

HE MADE A JUMPER :wow

[ceperez]

At least he's finally on the court. Looks extremely rusty, but hope Austin gives him playing time.

[RC_Drunkford]

HE MADE A JUMPER :wow

I can make jumpers

[J_Paco]

So, I guess I'll ask: Do you waive either Pondexter or Cunningham if he rounds into shape before February?

I don't think Pondexter is a NBA player anymore, but I'm also not sold that Huestis will ever develop any semblance of a perimeter game.....

If he hasn't lost any lateral quickness then he'd be a huge positive on the defensive end, but the floor would shrink drastically if he still can't make a jumper (against NBA level defenders).

[ceperez]

So, I guess I'll ask: Do you waive either Pondexter or Cunningham if he rounds into shape before February?

I don't think Pondexter is a NBA player anymore, but I'm also not sold that Huestis will ever develop any semblance of a perimeter game.....

If he hasn't lost any lateral quickness then he'd be a huge positive on the defensive end, but the floor would shrink drastically if he still can't make a jumper (against NBA level defenders).

Spurs seem to do okay with Poetl who also can't shoot.

I think PATFO will figure this out.

[Joseph Kony]

so whatever happened with this dude? spurs could really use his size on the perimeter. is he still stuffing his face with pizza in a hospital bed? :lol

[ceperez]

Rehabing in Austin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd7xGIJsqWo

[J_Paco]

so whatever happened with this dude? spurs could really use his size on the perimeter. is he still stuffing his face with pizza in a hospital bed? :lol

He's on the Austin Spurs but is shooting like doo doo (33%), so who knows if he's worth calling up....

[BackHome]

Sad when it comes to us drooling over a guy who can’t shoot.

[Atl Spur]

Spurs seem to do okay with Poetl who also can't shoot.

I think PATFO will figure this out.

I agree with u.

[r0drig0lac]

Sad when it comes to us drooling over a guy who can’t shoot.

give me the John Huestis's defense about any midget "shooter" 24/7

[RD2191]

How low we've fallen:lol

[Othyus Lalanne]

Sad when it comes to us drooling over a guy who can’t shoot.

I love my role players wery much thank you.

[Dverde]

Huestis had a good shooting game on Sunday, 15 points, 3-6 3 point shooting. He has played the most minutes the last three games. I wouldn’t be shocked for him to be on the Spurs active roster this year. I think they are trying to get him in game shape.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i think patfo needs to speed up his implementation into the roster to get comfortable playing alongside the younger players who will be the future of this premature ejaculation franchise...

[Dverde]

A player on the roster who doesn’t dribble dribble shoot is a plus nowadays

[ceperez]

Huestis had a good shooting game on Sunday, 15 points, 3-6 3 point shooting. He has played the most minutes the last three games. I wouldn’t be shocked for him to be on the Spurs active roster this year. I think they are trying to get him in game shape.

He just needs to get back in shape. The Spurs desperately need a good defender at SF. Got to plug that hole!

[Dverde]

He just needs to get back in shape. The Spurs desperately need a good defender at SF. Got to plug that hole!
That’s what she said.

[wildbill2u]

Spurs usually bring some players from Austin up to the big team for a ten day stint to reward them for good effort and play within the Spurs system. Maybe he will get that reward later in the year. But as I recall, some guys like Ledbettter who has really become an Austin veteran, hasn't been good enough to bring up ever.

[Dverde]

Huestis was an NBA level player before his injury. His problem was terrible shooting. I doubt PATFO see him as a d-leaguer. The stint is about rehabbing him. They’ll either eventually sign him for an active roster spot or cut him.

[exstatic]

Spurs usually bring some players from Austin up to the big team for a ten day stint to reward them for good effort and play within the Spurs system. Maybe he will get that reward later in the year. But as I recall, some guys like Ledbettter who has really become an Austin veteran, hasn't been good enough to bring up ever.

Yeah, they don’t ‘reward’ anyone. If you get a 10 day from SA, it’s because they’re evaluating you for a spot on the 15 man roster, not as some kind of reward.

[ceperez]

Huestis was an NBA level player before his injury. His problem was terrible shooting. I doubt PATFO see him as a d-leaguer. The stint is about rehabbing him. They’ll either eventually sign him for an active roster spot or cut him.

The last game was a good sign that he was finally getting back into shape and rhythm. I hope that he makes it into the lineup come playoff time.

He's had a ton of experience starting for OKC, I hope that translates to the Spurs. Perhaps he can just be like a Ben Simmons, pass the ball well and play defense.

[Dverde]

The last game was a good sign that he was finally getting back into shape and rhythm. I hope that he makes it into the lineup come playoff time.

He's had a ton of experience starting for OKC, I hope that translates to the Spurs. Perhaps he can just be like a Ben Simmons, pass the ball well and play defense.

He can’t even do that stuff in the G-League. He seems like bench filler that would play 10-15 minutes a game. Fill in more when Rudy gets hurt.

[dbestpro]

He can’t even do that stuff in the G-League. He seems like bench filler that would play 10-15 minutes a game. Fill in more when Rudy gets hurt.

10-15 minutes of someone other than White playing defense would be like Manna form Heaven.

[exstatic]

10-15 minutes of someone other than White playing defense would be like Manna form Heaven.

The problem with Huestis is that he stops BOTH teams from scoring...

[Dverde]

The problem with Huestis is that he stops BOTH teams from scoring...

He got plenty of shooters that have no problem jacking up contested shots. I really don’t think he will kill our offense in limited minutes. Our defense is our main problem.