Preseason Game #1 Thread: Spurs vs Heat - 9/30/18 @ 4 pm CST on NBATV

[NASpurs]

Seems fine. My guess is that Pop wanted to put Forbes back in but decided guys like Cun and Bertans needed more run than Gay. I'm pretty pleased with what Rudy showed so far, and the middle positions have a lot of players who need looks.

Yeah I just him laughing so I’m guessing he’s alright. He looked to be in pain and holding his hand when he immediately got subbed off. The dude has been banged around a couple of times tonight.

[NASpurs]

At least we have all of those IG videos of DJ working on his game.

[Chinook]

Exactly what does Cunningham do again?

Can't think of a consistent role-player like him the Spurs have had, at least not in recent memory. I'd say he takes up minutes doing bit things in lineups without well-defined responsibilities . The Spurs usually run too tight of a scheme to allow for those kind of generalists. They've been moving toward a system where such a player could find success in a glue-guy role, though.

[SAGirl]

DAvis block!

[SAGirl]

How is GAsol looking? He looks like he should be competing for minutes with others at this point.

[james evans]

I hope Murray isn't the 2nd coming of Rondo. I just don't understand how his jumper is so bad and isn't getting better

[Eggeye]

Bryn Forbes

[r0drig0lac]

it must be nice being Forbes and be on an NBA team.

[NASpurs]

I hope Murray isn't the 2nd coming of Rondo. I just don't understand how his jumper is so bad and isn't getting better

That shot was wet when he was shooting over some fat midget on Instagram.

[BillMc]

This has been fairly entertaining for a preseason game.

[007nites]

Anyone here just realized as well that Haslem still in the league? :lol

Lmao. I thought he retired 7-8 years ago. I don't even remember him being on the team when they beat us and we beat them in the finals.

[JakeCuenca]

Wow this team is so trash.

[RD2191]

DJ is trash. Move him for Butler asap. Spur fans need to stop overrating scrubs. He's an alright defender but that isn't enough to be starting.

[Pavlov]

How is GAsol looking? He looks like he should be competing for minutes with others at this point.Looks fine for an octogenarian.

[r0drig0lac]

great pass by bertans

[Chinook]

Jimmer was cut in camp and Bryn is on his second contract with the Spurs... I don't know what's up with that, but it's a fact.

Jimmer did have four or five years in the league, though. Jimmer in a vacuum is a lot better than Bryn. But his shooting motion is really bad. Bryn has a great motion. It's just not as fast as you'd like it to be, and him being short hurts his ability to space the floor. I don't think Bryn would have a huge problem getting a shot off if he were coached to just shoot it instead of hesitating and putting the ball on the floor so much. He may not as accurate, but it'd help the team out a lot more if teams had to play him for the shot every time rather than knowing he'll get scared into pulling it down for a drive.

[ace3g]

Metu and Pondexter in the game.

[ralph nyc]

Wow this team is so trash.
How you figure?

[NASpurs]

#Metu

[NickiRasgo]

Quincy looks out of shape.

[bklynspursfan]

Lmao. I thought he retired 7-8 years ago. I don't even remember him being on the team when they beat us and we beat them in the finals.

Duncan abused him in game 5 during his short stint

[Pavlov]

Wow this team is so trash.https://78.media.tumblr.com/e50ee2833d11eb6939a0f4500b32a40e/tumblr_oc3o9gXu3v1ryachyo1_r1_540.gif

[SAGirl]

Davis pass to a cutting Cunningham... nice.

[r0drig0lac]

white!!!!

[Pavlov]

lol four forward lineup

[SAGirl]

Jimmer did have four or five years in the league, though. Jimmer in a vacuum is a lot better than Bryn. But his shooting motion is really bad. Bryn has a great motion. It's just not as fast as you'd like it to be, and him being short hurts his ability to space the floor. I don't think Bryn would have a huge problem getting a shot off if he were coached to just shoot it instead of hesitating and putting the ball on the floor so much. He may not as accurate, but it'd help the team out a lot more if teams had to play him for the shot every time rather than knowing he'll get scared into pulling it down for a drive.
good point.

[NickiRasgo]

White quickly redeemed himself in the 2nd half and meanwhile Forbes...:lol

[BackHome]

White is so trash, slow, and ugly that SAGirl (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524) might bone him

Did KY give you time off from you ass wiping duties? You leaving Daboon all alone again?

[SAGirl]

White quickly redeemed himself in the 2nd half and meanwhile Forbes...:lol
Forbes will still be Forbes.

White just canned a 3. watch out.

[JakeCuenca]

This team going to compete for homecourt advantag? Lol

[RD2191]

Did KY give you time off from you ass wiping duties? You leaving Daboon all alone again?

White knight ey?

[Chinook]

Cun's been pretty good so far. I'd rather him have a spot on the second unit than Forbes, even if Bryn's also had his moments. That bench is going to need a glue guy with so many new faces.

[Pavlov]

Cun's been pretty good so far. I'd rather him have a spot on the second unit than Forbes, even if Bryn's also had his moments. That bench is going to need a glue guy with so many new faces.He's fine.

Don't call him that.

:lmao det coed hype team

[bklynspursfan]

This team going to compete for homecourt advantag? Lol

Seriously! They've played together 39 mins and still haven't figured it out smh. What a joke

[SAGirl]

Cun's been pretty good so far. I'd rather him have a spot on the second unit than Forbes, even if Bryn's also had his moments. That bench is going to need a glue guy with so many new faces.
I hate typing his full name but Cun's so ugly. He needs a nickname. I actually prefer calling him Dante if it must be.

[c whata11]

Quincy looks out of shape.

Seriously. Dude does not look like a wing/perimeter player at all

[NASpurs]

:lmao det coed hype team

Ugh that seriously hurt watching.

[SAGirl]

White looking great tbh... he was too nervous when he got in the game. He's practically a rook with how little he's played in the NBA

[NASpurs]

Pondexter looks like the second coming of Carl Herrera.

[NickiRasgo]

Forbes will still be Forbes.

White just canned a 3. watch out.

I'm rooting for White but I feel that Pop will be Pop.
He'll choose to play Forbes over White or Walker. :depressed

[Fusternino]

How bad have Mills and Belinelli actually been? Don't just wanna use the boxscore.

[iGetbuckets]

Play Walker

[kjhip1]

Carl Herrerra sighting....

[SAGirl]

Davis!

[NASpurs]

I thought #17 was J Simms for a sec :lol

[SAGirl]

I thought #17 was J Simms for a sec :lol
me too.. just a flashback moment.

[dabom]

How bad have Mills and Belinelli actually been? Don't just wanna use the boxscore.

Patty= MVP of game.

Beli van fuck off. :lol

[Chinook]

Blo is coming in. That's nice. Has a similar chance to get the same role as Cun does.

[NickiRasgo]

How bad have Mills and Belinelli actually been? Don't just wanna use the boxscore.

Surprisingly, Beli was nice a while ago offensively. Mills is still Mills.

[bklynspursfan]

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Almost the same spot as nephew for the Raps lol

[RD2191]

How bad have Mills and Belinelli actually been? Don't just wanna use the boxscore.

Beli has been decent. Mills has been trash per usual.

[bklynspursfan]

I thought #17 was J Simms for a sec :lol

Haha same. And I thought 24 was Andre Miller

[Russ]

Eubanks looks exactly like Hedo Turkaglu.

[RD2191]

Haha same. And I thought 24 was Andre Miller

Haha. And I though 21 was Tim Duncan.

[Pavlov]

Blo is coming in. That's nice. Has a similar chance to get the same role as Cun does.Doubtful if he's just going to play in shit lineups.

[kjhip1]

WE WANT WALKER

[NASpurs]

WE WANT WALKER

Injured unfortunately .

[Nathan89]

Did anyone else miss KA today?:lol

[iGetbuckets]

They all suck

[NickiRasgo]

Nothing to see on these training camp invites - maybe aside from Blossomgame.

[BillMc]

Our trash -time guys are trashier than the Heat's trash-time guys.

[SAGirl]

Blossomgame not doing squat

[Chinook]

Doubtful if he's just going to play in shit lineups.

Yeah. I stated that wrong. I meant more like if he makes it in the league, it'll be as a similar player, not that he has as much chance at getting playing time or a roster spot.

[Chinook]

Blossomgame not doing squat

As you say that.

[Texas_Ranger]

just cut everyone that is on the floor right now.

[NASpurs]

Stop giving the ball to Eubanks. Nothing good ever happens

[RD2191]

Did anyone else miss KA today?:lol

Permaban this bum, Kori.

[c whata11]

Eubanks is really good at looking active, but not doing anything necessarily productive

[Russ]

Except for the starters, this is kind of an interesting team to watch . . .

[SAGirl]

I like this team better than I thought I would. They still need White to be a good player for their bench, and Pau and Marco are veterans who didn't look that well but Pop is still going to play them bc they are veterans.

[Pavlov]

Eubanks is really good at looking active, but not doing anything necessarily productiveSigning him so quickly is still a headscratcher to me.

[NickiRasgo]

Nice pass from Metu to Blossomgame.

[Chinook]

Did anyone else miss KA today?:lol

Less than I ever have, honestly. He would have probably looked all right, but Bertans has looked really good. If this game were the rest of their careers, PATFO made the right choice.

[SAGirl]

As you say that.
good for him. He needs to show something. Pondexter looked bad. He could possibly have a chance, possibly.

[Pavlov]

Yeah. I stated that wrong. I meant more like if he makes it in the league, it'll be as a similar player, not that he has as much chance at getting playing time or a roster spot.Still a chance for a two way I suppose.

[Nivek_ogre]

I like beli and white off the bench. Not sure where that leaves useless fucking mills. Start white with Murray. Have gasol fuck off. Start gay or bertans at pf or just go with poeltl and play big

[SAGirl]

my stream cut off with 3 minutes to go. Overall it was a good showing IMO. Gives me hope for this team.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bottomgame > Vending machine head

[Dejounte]

I like beli and white off the bench. Not sure where that leaves useless fucking mills. Start white with Murray. Have gasol fuck off. Start gay or bertans at pf or just go with poeltl and play big

White would be rendered useless starting with White. He needs the ball in his hands.

[NASpurs]

Did he just say that Wade considered playing for the Spurs?

#bulletdodged

[JakeCuenca]

Wow Spurs scouting has really fallen of the cliff.

This is just sad.

RC "fleeced" buford needs to go.

[NickiRasgo]

Eubanks is so bad. :lol

[Pavlov]

Wow Spurs scouting has really fallen of the cliff.

This is just sad.

RC "fleeced" buford needs to go.What happened to you main screen name?

[ralph nyc]

Did he just say that Wade considered playing for the Spurs?

#bulletdodged
what's wrong?

[ralph nyc]

Wow Spurs scouting has really fallen of the cliff.

This is just sad.

RC "fleeced" buford needs to go.
How did he get fleeced?

[NickiRasgo]

Referee missed that inbound pass by White. :lol

[Pavlov]

Blossom would've made a bit of a statement had he corralled that last rebound.

[BillMc]

Victory :flag:

[tonight...you]

Wow Spurs scouting has really fallen of the cliff.

This is just sad.

RC "fleeced" buford needs to go.
Thank- thank you, try-hard.

[Dejounte]

Wow Spurs scouting has really fallen of the cliff.

This is just sad.

RC "fleeced" buford needs to go.

You need to go back using your old screen name, Apo.

[HankChinaski]

Wish I could have watched this game. Would like to have seen how the starting lineup looked as well as some of the new additions off the bench.

Interested more in how well new players meshed in the lineups out there. Not necessarily the buckets dropping into the hole but how well they looked making space for open looks, held defense, shot selection, etc.

[gambit1990]

spurs gonna lose to okc in the first round.

[ElNono]

good win, tbh...

[Chinook]

I like the idea of Eubanks. He's essentially Jalil Okafor with no investment. He has good size and some skill in the post. I don't see much in him, but I guess it doesn't hurt to keep him around for a bit.

All in all, I think this was a good game. The team really needs to gel, and they have to figure out how to balance their rotation if Gay starts. I think Murray, DeRozan, Gay, Aldridge, Gasol, Mills, White, Belinelli, Bertans and Poeltl are the top 10 with little room for someone like DC (since the previous nickname is now taboo), Pon or Walker to get minutes. I didn't say Forbes, though, and I wish I had. I do think he's going to be Derrick's direct competition for the rotation spot. I wish it were someone where if he won, I'd be okay with it. There are scenarios where Bryn instead of White could work in the rotation, but there aren't that many. I really liked the way Derrick responded to his poor first half, but I still don't think he's can be relied on game in and game out. But neither can Bryn.

[tonight...you]

Wish I could have watched this game. Would like to have seen how the starting lineup looked as well as some of the new additions off the bench.

Interested more in how well new players meshed in the lineups out there. Not necessarily the buckets dropping into the hole but how well they looked making space for open looks, held defense, shot selection, etc.
1st impressions:
Dejounte's shot looks quite improved.
This is going be a more fluid moving team, once they get used to each other.
White, once he settled down, looks very smooth.
Poeltl looks pretty darn good!

[jmard5]

Loved the overreaction on a first pre-season game.

[Pavlov]

I like the idea of Eubanks. He's essentially Jalil Okafor with no investment. He has good size and some skill in the post. I don't see much in him, but I guess it doesn't hurt to keep him around for a bit.I'm assuming Gasol is going to get several rest games so they wanted someone to eat minutes.


All in all, I think this was a good game. The team really needs to gel, and they have to figure out how to balance their rotation if Gay starts. I think Murray, DeRozan, Gay, Aldridge, Gasol, Mills, White, Belinelli, Bertans and Poeltl are the top 10 with little room for someone like DC (since the previous nickname is now taboo), Pon or Walker to get minutes. I didn't say Forbes, though, and I wish I had. I do think he's going to be Derrick's direct competition for the rotation spot. I wish it were someone where if he won, I'd be okay with it. There are scenarios where Bryn instead of White could work in the rotation, but there aren't that many. I really liked the way Derrick responded to his poor first half, but I still don't think he's can be relied on game in and game out. But neither can Bryn.Bryn works if he shoots lights out. That's about it.

I think the starters are going to try to find as many ways to make plays as possible before settling into a steady diet PnR and dumping to LMA in the post. It will be ugly, but don't read too much into the experimentation.

[Mr. Body]

First off, fuck Kawhi.

Second, this team will be much more dangerous than many are admitting.

Poetl has good foot speed and is a banger. You can play Bertans beside him, which is an added plus.

Bertans didn't outright suck like he did last year.

DeRozan was okay. I have no worries about him. They'll work him in.

Gay is great. Just a load for a lot of defenders and a really nice add to the starters. Kyle who?

White was very good. Some jitters early but he played through it. He has a nice skill set.

Murray was good. Him and fucking Kawhi would be beasts on perimeter defense.

The rest? I don't really remember much else. Aldridge and Gasol were putting in their time, preseason and all that. Wish we could have seen Walker.

Oh, it's good to see Belinelli back.

[Mr. Body]

Oh yeah, Forbes shouldn't be in any game before White. I don't get it.

[Spur|n|Austin]

First off, fuck Kawhi.

Second, this team will be much more dangerous than many are admitting.

Poetl has good foot speed and is a banger. You can play Bertans beside him, which is an added plus.

Bertans didn't outright suck like he did last year.

DeRozan was okay. I have no worries about him. They'll work him in.

Gay is great. Just a load for a lot of defenders and a really nice add to the starters. Kyle who?

White was very good. Some jitters early but he played through it. He has a nice skill set.

Murray was good. Him and fucking Kawhi would be beasts on perimeter defense.

The rest? I don't really remember much else. Aldridge and Gasol were putting in their time, preseason and all that. Wish we could have seen Walker.

Oh, it's good to see Belinelli back.

:tu

[Darius Bieber]

God damn this team is trash

[BackHome]

White is better then Forbes not even close.

[Indianman]

I'm really miffed that they didn't let Lonnie play tonight. He deserved minutes ahead of someone like a Nick Johnson.

[ceperez]

I'm relieved that Poetl and White seem to be good enough to get a lot of minutes this season.

For the 15th spot, I felt that Blossomgame played better than Pondexter and O. White. Blossomgame moved well without the ball and never got stalled in offense. I can't say the same for Pondexter and White, when they got the ball, the momentary kept it to figure out what next to do.

Belinelli tried to be playmaker, but that failed badly.

Non eventful for Cunningham.

[Chinook]

I'm really miffed that they didn't let Lonnie play tonight. He deserved minutes ahead of someone like a Nick Johnson.

Walker was hurt, so you don't have to be upset anymore.

[tonight...you]

I'm really miffed that they didn't let Lonnie play tonight. He deserved minutes ahead of someone like a Nick Johnson.
Injured bro.

[Indianman]

God damn this team is trash

They'll leave you surprised when the season is done and dusted.

[BillMc]

I'm really miffed that they didn't let Lonnie play tonight. He deserved minutes ahead of someone like a Nick Johnson.

He's hurt.

Hopefully his uncle doesn't hold him out the whole season.

[Indianman]

Walker was hurt, so you don't have to be upset anymore.

Thanks for the info. 'preciate it.

[HankChinaski]

1st impressions:
Dejounte's shot looks quite improved.
This is going be a more fluid moving team, once they get used to each other.
White, once he settled down, looks very smooth.
Poeltl looks pretty darn good!

Sounds encouraging for just only having a couple of days in training camp leading into their first preseason game. Have to wait an see about some YouTube post full game highlights hopefully.

[tonight...you]

I'm relieved that Poetl and White seem to be good enough to get a lot of minutes this season.

For the 15th spot, I felt that Blossomgame played better than Pondexter and O. White. Blossomgame moved well without the ball and never got stalled in offense. I can't say the same for Pondexter and White, when they got the ball, the momentary kept it to figure out what next to do.

Belinelli tried to be playmaker, but that failed badly.

Non eventful for Cunningham.
Belinelli's shot right now looks like Jeff Hornacek on weed.

[J_Paco]

I like the idea of Eubanks. He's essentially Jalil Okafor with no investment. He has good size and some skill in the post. I don't see much in him, but I guess it doesn't hurt to keep him around for a bit.

All in all, I think this was a good game. The team really needs to gel, and they have to figure out how to balance their rotation if Gay starts. I think Murray, DeRozan, Gay, Aldridge, Gasol, Mills, White, Belinelli, Bertans and Poeltl are the top 10 with little room for someone like DC (since the previous nickname is now taboo), Pon or Walker to get minutes. I didn't say Forbes, though, and I wish I had. I do think he's going to be Derrick's direct competition for the rotation spot. I wish it were someone where if he won, I'd be okay with it. There are scenarios where Bryn instead of White could work in the rotation, but there aren't that many. I really liked the way Derrick responded to his poor first half, but I still don't think he's can be relied on game in and game out. But neither can Bryn.

I think White was very jittery and anxious in the first half. Once he settled down and let the game "come to him" he was much, much better.

Pondexter looked really big (looks like he outweighs Metu & Blossomgame], slow and unathletic. Maybe he can show more in the next few games but it isn't looking too good (for him)....

Eubanks needs to do better converting inside - he missed on a nice alley oop attempt - and rebounding. He could find a solid "Aron Baynes" type role but he needs to be better in those areas.

I liked the athleticism and hustle that Metu and Blossomgame displayed. Those two had good chemistry and seems like Chimezie might have some solid passing skills.

Spurs are clearly going small off the bench in the backcourt/swing spots, but I liked what I saw from Cunningham. He'll be solid insurance if someone goes down with injuries or falters. Needs to be able to extend his range yet I see why the team brought him in.

Poeltl might foul too much for Pop's liking but I still see him taking Pau's starting position by season's end. Pau is just such a "low motor" player at this point in his career and the team needs athleticism, hustle and "heart" more than ever.

Everyone else was about what I expected and I think DeRozan not being too aggressive offensively was intentional. He is the best creator/ball handler on the team and needs to build chemistry/learn his teammates sweet spots, right now.

His ability to score and create for himself isn't going anywhere.

[ceperez]

White is better then Forbes not even close.

This is indeed true. He can get off a shot even with someone covering him.

I see Forbes as the 11th man on the team.

[SAGirl]

I'm really miffed that they didn't let Lonnie play tonight. He deserved minutes ahead of someone like a Nick Johnson.
He has had a sore groin and been injured. No reason to risk him.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

I'm really miffed that they didn't let Lonnie play tonight. He deserved minutes ahead of someone like a Nick Johnson.:pop: He's in the dog house.

[Chinook]

Belinelli's shot right now looks like Jeff Hornacek on weed.

Ugliest shot I've seen from someone whose motion isn't just broken. The balls come out so flat that there's no margin for error there. Dunno how he's even as accurate as it is, though I do have admire how hard it is to contest his attempts due to how variable his release point is.

[ceperez]

Ugliest shot I've seen from someone whose motion isn't just broken. The balls come out so flat that there's no margin for error there. Dunno how he's even as accurate as it is, though I do have admire how hard it is to contest his attempts due to how variable his release point is.

Yes, very disappointing for Belinelli. But he's a veteran, he'll pickup speed eventually.

[SAGirl]

I think White was very jittery and anxious in the first half. Once he settled down and let the game "come to him" he was much, much better.

Pondexter looked really big (looks like he outweighs Metu & Blossomgame], slow and unathletic. Maybe he can show more in the next few games but it isn't looking too good (for him)....

Eubanks needs to do better converting inside - he missed on a nice alley oop attempt - and rebounding. He could find a solid "Aron Baynes" type role but he needs to be better in those areas.

I liked the athleticism and hustle that Metu and Blossomgame displayed. Those two had good chemistry and seems like Chimezie might have some solid passing skills.

Spurs are clearly going small off the bench in the backcourt/swing spots, but I liked what I saw from Cunningham. He'll be solid insurance if someone goes down with injuries or falters. Needs to be able to extend his range yet I see why the team brought him in.

Poeltl might foul too much for Pop's liking but I still see him taking Pau's starting position by season's end. Pau is just such a "low motor" player at this point in his career and the team needs athleticism, hustle and "heart" more than ever.

Everyone else was about what I expected and I think DeRozan not being too aggressive offensively was intentional. He is the best creator/ball handler on the team and needs to build chemistry/learn his teammates sweet spots, right now.

His ability to score and create for himself isn't going anywhere.
I endorse this post. :clap

[Spurs2019champs]

MVPatty with Game High +15. :wow

what is that +/- stat indicating ? Does it mean most impact on game ?

[dabom]

what is that +/- stat indicating ? Does it mean most impact on game ?

Yes. Faggot.

[RD2191]

Yes. Faggot.

Chill bruh. Mills is trash. :lol

[dabom]

Chill bruh. Mills is trash. :lol

Dude carried. Facts.

[SpursDynasty85]

Yes, very disappointing for Belinelli. But he's a veteran, he'll pickup speed eventually.

I do recall that they do a lot of heavy calisthenics and leg work first few training camp days and use the preseason games to break them in. His shot was unusually flat today.

[SAGirl]

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[J_Paco]

I endorse this post. :clap

Thanks, SAGirl.

Anyway, I do have a few more thoughts:

DeJounte being aggressive on both ends and being a disruptive force on defense was a huge plus. Someone needs to take the mantle of being the linchpin on defense with Anderson, Green, Leonard and (to a lesser extent) Ginobili gone. I also loved what I saw from him on offense. He took his jumpshots without hesitation, in rhythm and most of all with confidence.

Bertans played how I expected him to last year. Coming off screens and taking good, clean looks. He wasn't pressing or forcing the issue like so many times last year.

If I can think of anything else I'll post again.

[NASpurs]

1046545479918587904

Yeah no shit Pop.

[bic50]

Team looks good :tu

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/1046558967768518658

[Mr. Body]

Thanks, SAGirl.

Anyway, I do have a few more thoughts:

DeJounte being aggressive on both ends and being a disruptive force on defense was a huge plus. Someone needs to take the mantle of being the linchpin on defense with Anderson, Green, Leonard and (to a lesser extent) Ginobili gone. I also loved what I saw from him on offense. He took his jumpshots without hesitation, in rhythm and most of all with confidence.

Bertans played how I expected him to last year. Coming off screens and taking good, clean looks. He wasn't pressing or forcing the issue like so many times last year.

If I can think of anything else I'll post again.

Poeltl helps Bertans, who is extremely weak. Gasol is too slow to help.

[J_Paco]

Poeltl helps Bertans, who is extremely weak. Gasol is too slow to help.

That might be the case but eventually Poeltl is going to surpass Gasol in production/effort and will deserve to start. And Pau could probably be more productive going against 2nd rate centers instead of starting caliber ones.

He was getting his shit pushed in (on the glass) by Whiteside in the first half.

[SpurPadre]

Just one game but I just saw a stream of this game and I'm really excited by this team's potential. Poetl's fouling is going to be annoying at times but he's a solid presence on the floor. Murray looks to have a true breakout year and at least be in the running for most improved player in the league. Dude has leadership, confidence, and Pop's trust. Derozan is going to be fine. I think he'll adapt to the system better than LMA did in his first season with the team. Gay still has enough left in the tank to be starting material but even though he feels he has his athleticism back, he is definitely past his prime. Nevertheless, he'll be even better than last year. We'll need Gasol's three ball at the 5 but he definitely needs to cede time to Poetl. The game's just too fast for him now to be a starter. I'm a little worried about the bench and I'm still skeptical of White (I think fans overrate him) but they looked ok out there. If Walker can get time over Forbes' sorry ass, they'll be even better. Overall, I think we'll surprise. You can tell Derozan will be a solid addition and make for a good one two punch with LMA. The biggest surprise will be Murray. I think he can be special and is my new favorite Spurs player. It was weird as fuck though seeing this team without any of The Big 3 though.

[LakerHater]

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Didnt know where to put this!?

[tonight...you]

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Betetr than that- they were going under on his PnR's and he was shooting over the top and hitting.

[playbonner15]

Betetr than that- they were going under on his PnR's and he was shooting over the top and hitting.
Would love to see Murray hitting his jumpers. Couldnt watch the game and heard that Murray did good

[NASpurs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MgvH5whGPA

[tonight...you]

Would love to see Murray hitting his jumpers. Couldnt watch the game and heard that Murray did good
His shot has very much improved and he purposefully hit over the top shots when they went under, just to show he could do it, more than once.

[SpursDynasty85]

I was most pleased with Gay, Murray, Poeltl, and White. In that order. A bit disappointed with how bad Derozan's defense is. He constantly losing his man and is always flat footed.

[tonight...you]

I was most pleased with Gay, Murray, Poeltl, and White. In that order. A bit disappointed with how bad Derozan's defense is. He constantly losing his man and is always flat footed.
Yeah... his D was a bit abysmal. I'm hoping Pop can start enforcing better habits that will help him.
He sinks too deep to one side and has to recover when it shouldn't have been an issue.
He's still got that Raptor stink right now.

He'll be a work-in-progress on that end. Probably on offense too, although that won't be as big a deal.

[offset formation]

Oh yeah, Forbes shouldn't be in any game before White. I don't get it.

White might be better than Murray, tbh. I wonder if Pop ever plays them both, with White at the 2.

[SAGirl]

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[BackHome]

Wish Bruce would show up and work with him..

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2WHGmCI-Po

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ndIqpXpJu4

[SAGirl]

His shot has very much improved and he purposefully hit over the top shots when they went under, just to show he could do it, more than once.
yup. I liked that. MIP candidate if he continues that well. Also we didn't see the one handed floater from 15 feet and such, instead he went to his jumpshot. Another thing, liked that drive he had in transition. He had about 2-3 minutes of play where he made several impressive plays.

[High Plains Drifter]

I got to watch the first 3 quarters this afternoon and was pretty stoked by what I saw.

My thoughts in no particular order:

1. If Rudy Gay is able to knock down 3 balls like he did in the first half, it will more than adequately address my concerns about the 3 spot this season. His shooting the ball like that from 3 makes him very playable with DeRozan and LA for a potent offensive trio. Also, that dunk he attempted was insane. The fact he had the confidence in his physical abilities to even try that monster throw down tells me he is indeed feeling fully healthy again.

2. Poeltl passed the eye test. Big time. He was disruptive on the defensive end, runs the floor well, has good hands, has good footwork, knew how to get positioning, and was effective at tipping the ball out when he couln’t pull down the rebound. Having him as a 3rd big on the squad is quite a luxury.

3. DJM seems poised to take the step forward I was hoping he might this season. He still struggled to finish at the rim on a play or two, but his stroke and confidence shooting the ball seemed much improved. When those shots start to fall it is going to be sweet. He is hands down our best perimeter defender and boy are we going to need him.

4. D. White is going to be alright this season. He looked like he should be in the rotation without question.

5. I’m not sure I can say the same for Forbes. He struggled to get his shot off, he was constantly behind the play on the defensive end, and his body language when things didn’t go his way (often) was horrible. If he isn’t in the rotation maybe it opens up minutes for Walker, but I’d also be okay rolling with more minutes for DJM and DDR with Mills and White.

6. We all wondered how the SF spot was going to work out. It’s way to early to assume the SL is set, but if Pop stays with Gay as the starting 3 and Belli backs him up it makes as much sense as anything I guess. Especially if number 1 on this list sorts out.

7. Gasol actually looked okay to me tonight. He had an impressive block that reminded me of the ones Timmy used to get where he wouldn’t even jump as he stuffed somebody like a holiday turkey. Offensively there was a high low feed from Gasol to LA that just made me smile. Those guys are going to feast on that action in today’s small ball NBA. Gasol doesn’t have to play big minutes to be effective, which opens up Poeltl and Bertans to bring interesting and different skill sets to the rotation. Thrown in LA as the stud of the bunch and I really like our big rotation this year.

A couple of of things I thought were funny from the broadcast:

1. There was a graphic during one of the breaks that was titled “gone but not forgotten”. It showed Manu, TP, Danny Green, and Leonard as Spurs who moved on. All I could think was poor Kyle. I’d rather remember him than Leonard...

2. I was in the kitchen cooking before the tip off and had the volume up so I could hear the TV in the den. I got really excited when I thought I heard Bill Land’s voice. Turns out it was a Miami broadcaster. That dude sounded so much like Bill Land that I couldn’t shake it the whole game. I kept waiting for an “oh mama!!” that never came...

[SAGirl]

I was most pleased with Gay, Murray, Poeltl, and White. In that order. A bit disappointed with how bad Derozan's defense is. He constantly losing his man and is always flat footed.

Mine were Murray, Poltl, White and Bertans. Derozan looked like a bad roleplayer at times, but he's getting adjusted and isn't used to Pop's schemes so I am really not paying that much attention. He will figure it out with some time or be gone in the future if he disappoints.

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYuKAx1lUKY

[Stabula]

Derrick White is one ugly motherfucker

[RD2191]

Derrick White is one ugly motherfucker

:lol

[GB20]

Derrick White is one ugly motherfucker
come on dude!!!:lol

[LakerHater]

does anyone know who the new PA announcer is?

[Mr. Body]

White might be better than Murray, tbh. I wonder if Pop ever plays them both, with White at the 2.

I think White is a much more natural point guard and scorer, Murray the better defender. They can complement each other well.

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX7aEh85ceA

[tonight...you]

yup. I liked that. MIP candidate if he continues that well. Also we didn't see the one handed floater from 15 feet and such, instead he went to his jumpshot. Another thing, liked that drive he had in transition. He had about 2-3 minutes of play where he made several impressive plays.
Very good point. A proper shot, than a shot put.

[SpurPadre]

Derrick White is one ugly motherfucker

http://i.imgur.com/bLppPEo.gif

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/marcobelinelli/status/1046592760797630464

[Beartrucci]

Gotta love Spurstalk. All the basketball goods

really talking about someone's looks after a game.

unfortunately I had to miss most of game so looking forward to insight and highlights.

[Fusternino]

Pondexter and Eubanks really that bad? They didn't show up in the highlights so I couldn't tell.

[Fusternino]

Did it look like DDR was intentionally deferring?

[Spurtacular]

14 pages; not bad.

[KDKSpurs24]

Did it look like DDR was intentionally deferring?
Kind of I guess. But I don’t get why they didn’t let him handle the ball more. He’s probably our best playmaker as of now so I’m not sure why the team wasn’t experimenting with that. I guess that will happen in the later preseason games when rotations start shaping up.

[ezau]

Impressed with Poeltl and Gay. Murray looks a legit starter out there. Demar did facilitate in a quite a few plays and that’ll be his major role for the team I suppose.

[Archie Moses]

Hey, dudes.

Bigtime Jazz fan here (I know, I hate myself too.)

Anyway, I'm a big University of Utah fan and love Poeltl. Having Pop coach him and Duncan work with him, I can't help but think how he's going to exceed many of your expectations. The kid has a solid all around game and if he gets a little confidence, who knows where his limit will be. I'm for sure going to follow him this year.

Yes, sir. Thank you, sir.

[Emperor]

Hey, dudes.

Bigtime Jazz fan here (I know, I hate myself too.)

Anyway, I'm a big University of Utah fan and love Poeltl. Having Pop coach him and Duncan work with him, I can't help but think how he's going to exceed many of your expectations. The kid has a solid all around game and if he gets a little confidence, who knows where his limit will be. I'm for sure going to follow him this year.

Yes, sir. Thank you, sir.

:toast

[Chinook]

Hey, dudes.

Bigtime Jazz fan here (I know, I hate myself too.)

Anyway, I'm a big University of Utah fan and love Poeltl. Having Pop coach him and Duncan work with him, I can't help but think how he's going to exceed many of your expectations. The kid has a solid all around game and if he gets a little confidence, who knows where his limit will be. I'm for sure going to follow him this year.

Yes, sir. Thank you, sir.

:tu Already the best Jazz fans on the site.

[Archie Moses]

:tu Already the best Jazz fans on the site.

Thank you, brother.

If anyone of you are ever in Utah maybe we could grab a root beer together or you could keep one of my eight wives company? (These types of jokes never get old, eh?)

Anyway, back to Poeltl. Get ready for him to show that he's a lil more than a stiff.
Dude is going to be a double double machine and a Pop fav.
https://youtu.be/einnChcgPi0

Oh, Poeltl. He's my Austrian Hammer.

☺😚☺

[mikec]

THANK YOU

[SwansonInSibagat]

Rudy will shoot better from 3 this year. He was hitting outside shots with much confidence in those Drew League games with DeMar. I say that will carry over to this season for sure.

Whether he starts or not Rudy is going to be key this season. Murray's still growing as an offensive player, and we've yet to see consistency from Bertans and the other guys; there appears to be no one else better suited for the role of 3rd scorer.

Here's praying that 32- year- old body holds up.

[ismael-robert]

Btw here on spurstalk ur considered a Jizz fan, not Jazz sorry but welcome

[spurs10]

Hey, dudes.

Bigtime Jazz fan here (I know, I hate myself too.)

Anyway, I'm a big University of Utah fan and love Poeltl. Having Pop coach him and Duncan work with him, I can't help but think how he's going to exceed many of your expectations. The kid has a solid all around game and if he gets a little confidence, who knows where his limit will be. I'm for sure going to follow him this year.

Yes, sir. Thank you, sir. Cool Archie! I watched him for the first time today and he looked great. Involved, focused, and skilled. He held his own on the boards against one of the NBA's best.

[dbestpro]

After watching the highlights, the thing that I was most impressed with for a preseason game was the ball movement. When the ball moved, the Spurs scored.

[weeks]

Oh, Poeltl. He's my Austrian Hammer.

☺☺

great we have another SAGirl:drunk

[superbigtime]

Is Quincy pondexter really going to be on this team? Yuck

[ceperez]

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Just prove it!

He doesn't have the jumping out of the gym athleticism of Walker or the defensive talent of Murray, but he definitely is a lot more basketball skills that these other two.

Tony Parker didn't have a lot of athleticism and he's a future HOF. Very promising. I hope he learned a lot from Parker from last year.

BTW, did you notice that he blocked as shot on one of Miami's centers? His lack of athleticism and length is deceptive. He's been known to block a lot of shots.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Typical 1st preseason game after 3 or 4 practices with Pop trying out everyone except LW 4.

Lots of turnovers. But, I think by mid-season we're going to be a pretty good team. JMHO

[r0drig0lac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EWwbE4qhqw



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w2UYPpL_9A



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqZ2VkAQTZw

[spursparker9]

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Didnt know where to put this!?

Kawhi-esque

[Truth4sale$]

I would have liked to have seen one veteran PG stay with the 3rd string. The win was almost blown because a lack of cohesion, skill and veteran presence.
I am pulling for Jaron Blossomgame and he showed whom hustle in limited minutes. I did not see anything from Pondexter at all, not sure why he played before Blossomgame. Eubanks, not sure why a two way was given to him when guys such as Deyona Davis are around and Amidah was cut. The 3rd strings guys just dont seem to have much upside. Okaro White is a tweener, and took a 3pt shot and seemed redundant with Cunningham.

[Maddog]

I would have liked to have seen one veteran PG stay with the 3rd string. The win was almost blown because a lack of cohesion, skill and veteran presence.
I am pulling for Jaron Blossomgame and he showed whom hustle in limited minutes. I did not see anything from Pondexter at all, not sure why he played before Blossomgame. Eubanks, not sure why a two way was given to him when guys such as Deyona Davis are around and Amidah was cut. The 3rd strings guys just dont seem to have much upside. Okaro White is a tweener, and took a 3pt shot and seemed redundant with Cunningham.

It's the first pre-season game of the year after 3or 4 practices. The game was almost blown due to a lack of players who will be on a NBA roster mid October. Heck someof those will not be on a roster in a week.

[ceperez]

I would have liked to have seen one veteran PG stay with the 3rd string. The win was almost blown because a lack of cohesion, skill and veteran presence.
I am pulling for Jaron Blossomgame and he showed whom hustle in limited minutes. I did not see anything from Pondexter at all, not sure why he played before Blossomgame. Eubanks, not sure why a two way was given to him when guys such as Deyona Davis are around and Amidah was cut. The 3rd strings guys just dont seem to have much upside. Okaro White is a tweener, and took a 3pt shot and seemed redundant with Cunningham.

Not worried about blowing the game because of playing camp invites.

This is just first game, you'll see players being cut and the original order (pondexter over blossomgame) changing.

The Heat commentators where in all praise for the two-way contract (Jones Jr.).

[Nathan89]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EWwbE4qhqw



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w2UYPpL_9A



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqZ2VkAQTZw

Thanks for the vids.

I love that mid lane drive by White.

[John B]

I was so impressed with Gay, his rebounding, shooting the 3’s, his athleticism. I hope he keeps hitting those 3’s. Dang he answered that mid-range questions quick. Murray has Kawhi-ish suffocating defense and much confidence in his strokes. But I can’t help comparing him to White who has the most natural PG skills. White’s athleticism is deceptive with his rebounding and a block on that center. Why he reminds me of Jason Kidd? I don’t know. They are the same height, But maybe more of his demeanor, savviness? I feel more secure when he has the rock than Murray and Mills. He just belongs out there and I’m excited for him and what more he could bring. Please stop with Mills at PG. I love Mills, but he is a a shooting guard and streak scorer, that’s it. Any minutes for Forbes should go to Walker development period. Poeltl will start sooner than later. That kid at 22 is a bruiser. He might not have the passing skills of Gasol, but I think he got us extra possessions because of his reboundings and hassle plays. If LMA will be hitting those outside shots, then Poeltl needs to anchor the middle. While he looks like a big white dude to dunk on, and I know he would get his Blake-Posterizing-Gasol moments, a lot of players would find out wrong because this dude will not back down. Demar is still finding his way with the offense, but be selfish and find your shots. Spurs need him to be an alpha and not defer too much. Sometimes it’s necessary to be a have mamba moment. LMA will find his rythmn. And having more scorers should open his shots more. I’m pleasantly surprised to see Metu. But I admit he is going to Austin. All in all, I like what Pops/RJ did. Nothing sexy but Spurs will be competing. GSG :flag:

[bklynspursfan]

It's the first pre-season game of the year after 3or 4 practices. The game was almost blown due to a lack of players who will be on a NBA roster mid October. Heck someof those will not be on a roster in a week.

this. idk why people don't realize the circumstances and are treating this like it's a meaningful game in March or something

[playbonner15]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EWwbE4qhqw





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w2UYPpL_9A




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqZ2VkAQTZw

That was a nice set play for Bertans!:clap

And White looks like a quicker Kyle Anderson who can score lol

[Russ]

My take -- the Spurs have a very good overall personnel level.

However, the starters are slow and, worse, don't move the ball well. Bluntly put, after all those years of being falsely accused, the Spurs (starters at least) actually are boring.

The good news, they probably can learn to move the ball better (they'll never get quicker of course).

The better news, this is an interesting team with many diamonds in the rough -- that's a reallly good situation.

Most urgently, the Spurs need to find a leader -- then they can find an identity (and it had better be based on ball movement and old school Spurs basketball).

[WallyTiger]

Just prove it!

Tony Parker didn't have a lot of athleticism and he's a future HOF. Very promising. I hope he learned a lot from Parker from last year..

he will screw Murray‘s girl.

[Mugen]

:lol I understand it's kinda f'd up to say and I hope that it's nothing too serious, happy he got paid, etc....

But the only way this season has any chance of being remotely entertaining/fun/building for the future, etc. is if Forbes suffers an injury paving the way for White or Lonnie....

Pop is gonna find a way to give probably my most hated player in the last 10 years at least 20mins a night unless he doesn't have that option tbh...

[Truth4sale$]

The 1st game is exactly when you want to see the camp invites, to see who is a player and who is not. You want to see them with a established rotational player to keep the team organized. The 4th quarter was a sloppy mess.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I think Poetl has me the most excited. I know we'll have a very good player in Demar, and I think he's going to improve defensively as time goes on. Poetl can be a game changer. A young, mobile center who can run, defend and rebound is a pretty big find.

[sasaint]

Just prove it!

He doesn't have the jumping out of the gym athleticism of Walker or the defensive talent of Murray, but he definitely is a lot more basketball skills that these other two.

Tony Parker didn't have a lot of athleticism and he's a future HOF. Very promising. I hope he learned a lot from Parker from last year.

BTW, did you notice that he blocked as shot on one of Miami's centers? His lack of athleticism and length is deceptive. He's been known to block a lot of shots.

i think you are painting with too broad a brush to say Tony didn't have a lot of athleticism. He was a blur when he entered the league - fastest thing in sneakers I had ever seen. White is just a completely different type of player. I like his calmness and his court vision/awareness. I really have high hopes for him.

[look_at_g_shred]

Somethin about this team..feels like everyone is pulling for each other to do good like genuinely. Reminds me of the defense in the NFL when they make a pick they all get together and pose in front of the camera. I think that chemistry bodes well for us. It's like we want to win for each other.

[look_at_g_shred]

Sounds like you'd be the first to scream that the sky is falling if everyone looked like shit too

[ceperez]

i think you are painting with too broad a brush to say Tony didn't have a lot of athleticism. He was a blur when he entered the league - fastest thing in sneakers I had ever seen. White is just a completely different type of player. I like his calmness and his court vision/awareness. I really have high hopes for him.

Parker was pretty quick, but he took advantage by being deceptive with his speed. There were times when Parker attempted to dunk, and even missed them when being completely alone.

[Texas_Ranger]

White did start to play good in the second half. I hope he gets minutes instead of Forbes if he'll play like he did yesterday. Bertans didn't surprise me on offense cause we all know he can shoot, but he did great on defense and with his lenght he will cause problems for the other team. Same goes for Poetl who has shown he is a great rebounder. And if Rudy will stay 100% we can expect one of his better season.

[rogcl1]

Just prove it!

He doesn't have the jumping out of the gym athleticism of Walker or the defensive talent of Murray, but he definitely is a lot more basketball skills that these other two.

Tony Parker didn't have a lot of athleticism and he's a future HOF. Very promising. I hope he learned a lot from Parker from last year.

BTW, did you notice that he blocked as shot on one of Miami's centers? His lack of athleticism and length is deceptive. He's been known to block a lot of shots.

Tony Parker was very athletic. Quick and fast and good body control in the lane. . That was how he got to the bucket on his drives. He was clocked as the fastest player with the ball.

[Truth4sale$]

Poetl will be a great addition the team. He will be a legit factor as he continues to develop his offensive game. His offensive game seemed non existant outside a layup. But grabbing 10 rebounds in 20 minutes, when battling Hassan Whiteside is a win! I see a great 2 man game in the second unit with Poetl and White.

[rogcl1]

Parker was pretty quick, but he took advantage by being deceptive with his speed. There were times when Parker attempted to dunk, and even missed them when being completely alone.

Athleticism is not defined by vertical leap and dunking alone. Parker had blinding speed and quickness with the ball in his hands. His control on spin moves was incredible. His loss of that step is why he is no longer playable.

[Larry O]

It's exciting that the NBA season is back, although it's preseason, and with all the new additions to the team, I'm sure Spurs fans are intrested to see how this "new era" of Spurs basketball his going to pan out. On one hand, meh, it's preseason, so Pop's lineup tinkering has a chance for an early start, which will continue into the regular season, tbh. On the other hand, with the new additions, the players have to build chemistry together while getting into a BB rhythm, which calls for a good extensive playing time. There was some rust; some jitters, I'm sure from some of the players such as DeRozan, but as this team begins to play more together, I think that the chemistry will come around as well & this team will have playoff promise. I agree with most of the posters here who are preferring DW over Forbes. Heck, I would even say, as far as a PG, White is probably the best on the roster over DJ, although DJ is more athletic & has length over DW, but White, to me, seems a bit more polished. DW had a bad first half outing, but he seemed to get his act together in the second half & balled his gluteus maximus off! Hopfully DW will prove to Pop & the coaching staff, that he should at least be the sixth man off the bench or moreso, at least be DJ's back-up PG over Mills, but that's well wishing, I'm sure. Poetl (JP) for his first outting, sure looked good! Decent rim protection & rebounding! But I think that once he get's acclimated and aquainted with the team, he will be a great pick-up steal! It will be interesting to see if he will take over the 5 spot in the starting lineup, especially with certain matchup situations. I think that for DD, it would be good for him for P & R schemes due to their prior playing time in Toronto. I'm also rooting for Blossomgame as well to win that 2-way contract. He had some positive moments in yesterday's game, too, so hopfully, he can get a chance to prove himself throughout the preseason that he belongs on this team. Metu also had some good moments, but I recall that there was a bone headed move that coud have cost us the game there at the game closing, but hopfully with experience, he too will grow & become an important bench role player, but I can also see him down in Austin for a great deal of the season. GSG!!!

[rogcl1]

I was suprised the Spurs won when I checked the box score after randomly reading through parts of this thread ,I would have thought we were being thrashed by a bunch. The Heat played 13 players while the Spurs played 18 and 17 scored. Looks like a lot of players got looks which is what should be happening now. And we won.

[bklynspursfan]

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Rudy smiling mid air, right before the miss lol

[ceperez]

Athleticism is not defined by vertical leap and dunking alone. Parker had blinding speed and quickness with the ball in his hands. His control on spin moves was incredible. His loss of that step is why he is no longer playable.

Not going to argue if agility is athleticism. There are plenty of players with a ton of vertical, but aren't very agile. Let's just say that Parker was a different kind of athletic. That is the kind without a spring but with a ton of body control.

[Leetonidas]

Lol at someone saying Parker wasn't athletic.

[rogcl1]

Not going to argue if agility is athleticism. There are plenty of players with a ton of vertical, but aren't very agile. Let's just say that Parker was a different kind of athletic. That is the kind without a spring but with a ton of body control.

Lol. Not just body control or agility or whatever you call it. Young and prime Parker was lightning quick and blazing fast.

[ceperez]

Lol. Not just body control or agility or whatever you call it. Young and prime Parker was lightning quick and blazing fast.

6'2" player who barely could dunk the ball.

Not saying dunking is necessary. But Parker was a unique kind of player. A guard that made most of his points in the paint.

[San Antonio Slayer]

that 4th quarter was a real suffering for viewers imo

[Dex]

Lol at someone saying Parker wasn't athletic.

People seem to equate athleticism with "jumps high and dunks hard".

Parker was never a high flyer but he was once one of the fastest guys in the NBA and had a motor that never quit.

People also say Steve Nash wasn't athletic but he was probably one of the most fit guys in the league until damn near 40.

[ceperez]

People seem to equate athleticism with "jumps high and dunks hard".

Parker was never a high flyer but he was once one of the fastest guys in the NBA and had a motor that never quit.

People also say Steve Nash wasn't athletic but he was probably one of the most fit guys in the league until damn near 40.

Parker also led in a statistic that measures the distance a player has run within a game. Parker could run forever and he was a master at shifting his speed to confuse the defense.

But 'Jumping out of the gym' athleticism isn't what he had.

[picnroll]

Parker often had the highest FG% scoring in the paint at 6’2” (probably closer to 6’) beating out all the bigs.

[ceperez]

Parker often had the highest FG% scoring in the paint at 6’2” (probably closer to 6’) beating out all the bigs.

Yep, and he didn't do it by dunking on people. Parker may have dunked less than 5 times in his entire career!

[JPB]

And then Kawhtter is never the same player again and Spurs stole the trade.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Derrick White is one ugly motherfucker

lol at someone posting about another man's looks on a sports forum.

[SpursDynasty85]

Yep, and he didn't do it by dunking on people. Parker may have dunked less than 5 times in his entire career!

Parker is a generous 6' 2". He could dunk pretty easily until probably 2013. How many and what guys were dunking at his height? I feel as though 6' 2" is generous. I'm sure hes right around 6 feet without shoes.

[Beartrucci]

Parker is a generous 6' 2". He could dunk pretty easily until probably 2013. How many and what guys were dunking at his height? I feel as though 6' 2" is generous. I'm sure hes right around 6 feet without shoes.

I walked by him at the opening of Malik Rose's Philly Cheesesteak restaurant back in the day. No way he was 6'0". I was actually surprised at how tall he was in person. I would guess 6'2".

[SpursDynasty85]

I walked by him at the opening of Malik Rose's Philly Cheesesteak restaurant back in the day. No way he was 6'0". I was actually surprised at how tall he was in person. I would guess 6'2".

Well they usually list guys with their shoes. 6' without shoes is nothing to sneeze at. Average height is about 5'10" in among caucasians.

[Beartrucci]

Well they usually list guys with their shoes. 6' without shoes is nothing to sneeze at. Average height is about 5'10" in among caucasians.

Understand what you're saying, but I'm pretty sure tony was well above 6'0". Now a guy like Kyle Lowry is a legit 5'11", and it's easy to see on the floor when he's playing. Really makes everything he does that much more impressive when you know his true height. Sorry random tangent there :lol

[picnroll]

I walked by him at the opening of Malik Rose's Philly Cheesesteak restaurant back in the day. No way he was 6'0". I was actually surprised at how tall he was in person. I would guess 6'2".

I stood behind Parker at the Quarry Whole Foods when he was a rookie. I’m 5’10” and there’s no way he was more than 6’. Unless he grew after he was 19 his 6’2” was with 2 inch sneaker heels.

[daslicer]

I stood behind Parker at the Quarry Whole Foods when he was a rookie. I’m 5’10” and there’s no way he was more than 6’. Unless he grew after he was 19 his 6’2” was with 2 inch sneaker heels.

I'm 6'2 and went to Spurs vs Hornets game several years ago in Charlotte. I had court side seats and remember Parker walking past me few times while I was standing. We were both the same exact height.

[SpursDynasty85]

Understand what you're saying, but I'm pretty sure tony was well above 6'0". Now a guy like Kyle Lowry is a legit 5'11", and it's easy to see on the floor when he's playing. Really makes everything he does that much more impressive when you know his true height. Sorry random tangent there :lol

True, Kyle Lowry is short short in NBA standards. Hes got pitbull legs though. Bet it hurts players when his hips bump other players thighs lol.

[spurs50_]

I was at HEB when.........

[LakerHater]

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[rastaspur]

Not going to argue if agility is athleticism. There are plenty of players with a ton of vertical, but aren't very agile. Let's just say that Parker was a different kind of athletic. That is the kind without a spring but with a ton of body control.

Same for splitter. From a lateral quickness perspective and moving his feet, etc, he was very athletic. Poverty ball athletic i guess. Foot coordination. Not street ball/nba athletic

[PuzzBeterson]

I stood behind Parker at the Quarry Whole Foods when he was a rookie. I’m 5’10” and there’s no way he was more than 6’. Unless he grew after he was 19 his 6’2” was with 2 inch sneaker heels.

Parker was known to always take his shoes off at Whole Foods joints.

[Dex]

Parker was known to always take his shoes off at Whole Foods joints.

Don't want to get molasses on your kicks.

[JPB]

I was roaming around Brent's house when Parker fucked wifey. I'm 10 inches and after he ran just by me, clothes in hands I can tell Tony's the same.

[ceperez]

Same for splitter. From a lateral quickness perspective and moving his feet, etc, he was very athletic. Poverty ball athletic i guess. Foot coordination. Not street ball/nba athletic

Then there's the question about Derek White. What kind of athletic is he? He's definitely not "street ball/nba athletic", he's also not as slow paced as slo-mo.

[rjv]

People seem to equate athleticism with "jumps high and dunks hard".

Parker was never a high flyer but he was once one of the fastest guys in the NBA and had a motor that never quit.

People also say Steve Nash wasn't athletic but he was probably one of the most fit guys in the league until damn near 40.


nash may not have had a great vertical but his eye hand coordination was second to none.

[rastaspur]

Derrick white being called ugly is irrelevant, unless you like to jerk to his poster. If he doesnt break the camera so as to where we can watch on tv, then it shouldnt concern a spurs fan.

The knicks drafted a high yellow frankenstein in kevin knox. He might actually break a camera. It could be much worse from an aesthetics perspective.

[SAGirl]

Derrick white being called ugly is irrelevant, unless you like to jerk to his poster. If he doesnt break the camera so as to where we can watch on tv, then it shouldnt concern a spurs fan.

The knicks drafted a high yellow frankenstein in kevin knox. He might actually break a camera. It could be much worse from an aesthetics perspective.

The concern with male appearance in this forum from men who allegedly aren't gay and fawn over Jilly Anais' feet and such is astonishing. I know I have mentioned this before, but it surprises how much ugly men bother trolls. :dizzy

[wildbill2u]

Except for the starters, this is kind of an interesting team to watch . . .

Quote of the Thread. Has to be.

[ace3g]

From spurs.com

https://www.nba.com/spurs/gallery/photos-spurs-vs-heat-9/30

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