Open Scrimmage Thread: Silver vs. Black - 10/3/18 @ 7 PM CST

[timvp]

To be streamed live on Facebook.

[illusioNtEk]

Link?

[tonight...you]

Darn... I don't do Facebook.

[rastaspur]

Darn... I don't do Facebook.

Me either. Might have to make my lady pull it up on her fb page so i can watch. Got off 3 years ago and never looked back. A wise decision that i do not regret. Hate fb

[Dex]

Always interesting to watch a Silver & Black brawl. Will be interesting to see how Pop splits up the squads.

Hopefully the Spurs and Facebook step up their game on the broadcast. I've had issues the past couple years such as no score being available, no audio, etc...

[ducks]

Darn... I don't do Facebook.

you mean 50 million a few days ago got hacked and you do not want to facebook wow
the founder does not like walls

[tonight...you]

you mean 50 million a few days ago got hacked and you do not want to facebook wow
the founder does not like walls
Lol... I've never done FB. Or Twitter, or IG either.
Just never interested enough to join anything like that.
Never joined MySpace either, back in the day.

[Keepin' it real]

Facebook lol

https://media.tenor.com/images/481ba3d97dbd34f116c773059390d6d5/tenor.gif

[paperboy77]

Me either. Might have to make my lady pull it up on her fb page so i can watch. Got off 3 years ago and never looked back. A wise decision that i do not regret. Hate fb

Couldn't agree with you more about fb and not looking back

[Dex]

I'm probably gonna get shit on for this, but Facebook is what you make of it.

If you know and/or follow toxic people, your Facebook is probably going to be toxic.

The people I know who have quit Facebook "because of the drama" also happen to be some of the most dramatic people I know.

[rjv]

from what i've heard, we should get a chance to see walker in action.

[rastaspur]

I'm probably gonna get shit on for this, but Facebook is what you make of it.

If you know and/or follow toxic people, your Facebook is probably going to be toxic.

The people I know who have quit Facebook "because of the drama" also happen to be some of the most dramatic people I know.

I enjoyed fb for a while. Then it just wound up being drama. Dumb shit really. Flirting with pretty ladies on fb. Got me in trouble. Then i had a few stalker friends that were females and just liked everything i said and openly flirted with me. Lady hated it. I am very opinionated and many of my comments would stir up shit. Being liberal in the deep south is really going against the grain. And all the bullshit and propaganda that was steadily increasing in 2015 made it suck as well.

And then some girl came out of left field and tried to say her 7 year old child was mine on fb was the straw that broke the camels back. I called her out, let everyone know its biologically impossible to get pregnant from a blow job. I also reminded her that she actually threw up while in the act and that ended that whole rendezvous and it grossed me out so bad i never physically touched that girl ever again. In fact, i was an asshole about it for at least 6 months.

[FlAVaK]

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/43178747_10155758907746981_8758222749370941440_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=3d268d5355258d693279f44ee89a1f82&oe=5C58EED9

[Dex]

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:lol First day and Tim has already stolen Manu's mug.

[gambit1990]

I'm probably gonna get shit on for this, but Facebook is what you make of it.

If you know and/or follow toxic people, your Facebook is probably going to be toxic.

The people I know who have quit Facebook "because of the drama" also happen to be some of the most dramatic people I know.
facebook as a company is toxic.

[gambit1990]

sucks that they own instagram.

[BillMc]

:lol First day and Tim has already stolen Manu's mug.
:lol

[gambit1990]

made it to the scrimmage the past few years but skipping this one. interest has waned with no kawhi, manu and that the team will be lucky to make it out of the first round of the playoffs. roster is too limited.

[SAGirl]

made it to the scrimmage the past few years but skipping this one. interest has waned with no kawhi, manu and that the team will be lucky to make it out of the first round of the playoffs. roster is too limited.
you mean you aren't excited to see Bryn, whose burned everyone in training camp, kill it in the scrimmage?:)

can't blame ya.

[TheRemix]

https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/43178747_10155758907746981_8758222749370941440_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=3d268d5355258d693279f44ee89a1f82&oe=5C58EED9

Timmy looking younger with that nice fade

[QRD30]

Anyone have a link for the open scrimmage? Can't seem to find it on facebook

[QRD30]

Oh wait it might be 8 EST

[Cardinal]

Anyone have a link? I can't find it either

[timvp]

^ No link yet. Got another 30 minutes before it starts.

[playblair]

Lol... I've never done FB. Or Twitter, or IG either.
Just never interested enough to join anything like that.
Never joined MySpace either, back in the day.

wtf u must be married over 50 years.......... social media = easy thots u can get a new girl every week

[tonight...you]

wtf u must be married over 50 years.......... social media = easy thots u can get a new girl every week
I'm happily married and well under 50. Lol. I just have no interest.

[BillMc]

Anyone got a nonFB link? PM me please

[timvp]

Stream live in 3 ... 2...

[NASpurs]

You don't need a FB account to watch this.

[NASpurs]

https://twitter.com/EvanClosky/status/1047629069825835008?s=09

[r0drig0lac]

live on now

[BillMc]

https://twitter.com/EvanClosky/status/1047629069825835008?s=09

Cheers :bobo

[r0drig0lac]

Bertans looking better and better

[NASpurs]

Wait, I thought Walker had gotten a haircut. :lol

[K...]

https://www.facebook.com/Spurs/

[K...]

these uniforms suzk

[NASpurs]

I was excited at first... now I'm realizing I can't take much more of this. :lol

[baseline bum]

Why is the fucking video interlaced?

[BlackAndWhite]

Way too unbalanced

[Chinook]

Flash of BG on Marco's extra pass to Poeltl for the dunk.

[r0drig0lac]

Walker has incredible potential

[Fusternino]

Very laggy but fairly sure it's a problem on my end.

[hater]

:lmao ppl still using facefuck

Why dont u just give out all your private info :lmao

[Maddog]

Not able to access it my phone.

[rastaspur]

wtf u must be married over 50 years.......... social media = easy thots u can get a new girl every week

Thots are problematic for guys in committed relationships. They cause problems. Thats the fb drama i couldnt deal with.

[objective]

Who was that little selfish guy who wouldn't throw the oop to Walker? Cut that guy now.

[Keepin' it real]

Playoff atmosphere.

[r0drig0lac]

Walker on another team would probably have regular minutes since the start of the season

[hater]

wtf u must be married over 50 years.......... social media = easy thots u can get a new girl every week

Lol needing to give out all your private info to get a girl :lol

[SpursDynasty85]

Demar still not looking comfortable out there. Rudy looking healthy. White's handles are again very shaky. Okaro White looks solid. Bryn is a practice monster which explains why he gets the minutes in real games. Dejounte is better but still developing his game. Lonnie Walker looks pretty good. His lack of perimeter moves could still suit this team this year because he appears to have good fundamentals that will allow him to get his shots off in this system.

[SAGirl]

Demar still not looking comfortable out there. Rudy looking healthy. White's handles are again very shaky. Okaro White looks solid. Bryn is a practice monster which explains why he gets the minutes in real games. Dejounte is better but still developing his game. Lonnie Walker looks pretty good. His lack of perimeter moves could still suit this team this year because he appears to have good fundamentals. Will be able to get his shots off in this system off set all these set plays and picks.
Appreciate the review. I attempted to watch it but it was lagging pretty bad on my end and the camera was poor... my image was fuzzy/hazy. Anyways, point is appreciate it.

I miss not having watched Lonnie but hopefuly he gets to play next preseason game, bc if he played in the scrimmage he's healthy. :tu

[SpursDynasty85]

Appreciate the review. I attempted to watch it but it was lagging pretty bad on my end and the camera was poor... my image was fuzzy/hazy. Anyways, point is appreciate it.

I miss not having watched Lonnie but hopefuly he gets to play next preseason game, bc if he played in the scrimmage he's healthy. :tu

YW. only caught like 2.5 out of the 5 scrimmages though.

[Leetonidas]

Hurry up and post a long and thoughtful analysis timvp I didn't get to watch

[BillMc]

A summary please for those of us who didn't see it. Thanks in advance good people.

[Mr. Body]

Walker has incredible potential

He has tools out the butt.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1047673017998831616

https://twitter.com/KSATRJ/status/1047671130293772288

[ace3g]

I went to the scrimmage tonight.

Good to see Cunningham knock down 3s

[rastaspur]

The recap article on pounding the rock is an adequate summary for those who didn't watch.

[Mr. Body]

I went to the scrimmage tonight.

Good to see Cunningham knock down 3s

This is the funniest take I've ever read.

[Gordy58]

Rudy looking great, Aldridge is still gonna get his buckets, Demar is slowly getting more comfortable but he was knocking down some shots from his sweet spots, Derrick White didn’t do much to stand out but I think he’ll be fine, Murray looking much more comfortable with his pull up mid range shot, Bryn knocking down threes but didn’t really take it to the hole much, Eubanks with great positioning around the basket for easy buckets, I saw Blossomgame knock down some mid range shots and he looks really active around the rim, Metu didn’t see too much out of him, didnt really look like he was trying to score though, Cunningham looked intriguing since he was knocking down some threes and looked comfortable doing so. Pondexter didn’t do much to standout, Patty had a couple points on drives, Marco scored some buckets too and you can tell he’s trying to be more of a playmaker. Lonnie has great potential, he knows how to create space for himself and he threw down a nice tomahawk jam.

I wouldn’t put too much thought in this one, it’s just preseason and the effort and intensity wasn’t really there overall.

[John B]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1047673017998831616

https://twitter.com/KSATRJ/status/1047671130293772288
I like this kid’s confidence and swagger. Very athletic. I really hope he can make that leap fast and into the rotation. I feel he’s one of the best rookies out there and could really prove himself. Unfortunately Spurs are win now attitude and Pop would not have too many youngsters (Murray, White, Forbes and Poeltl for sure) in the rotation.

[playbonner15]

Bryn is a practice monster which explains why he gets the minutes in real games.
Yeah lots of people are wondering why he can't dominate in regular games. I don't really watch practice to see Forbes, but do you think it's a confidence issue?

[bklynspursfan]

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[TDomination]

I went to scrimmage, quick notables.

-a lot of love for Lonnie and DDR. DDR even got a small MVP chant while at the line lol but it shows the love which is nice.

-Pau struggled and was schooled by Lamarcus.

-Lamarcus looks to be in midseason form, I expect him to make all star again this year.

-Dejounte looked to run quite a few times and he had a nice burst of speed but struggled to finish when he attempted a layup, needs to work on finishing those.

-DDR has great handles and looks silky smooth weaving through traffic. He hesitated to shoot a few times and Is looking to pass more than to shoot at the moment which is understandable but i hope he looks for his shot more.

-Walker showed off for the crowd during layup drills

-Pop just sat behind the players bench and let the assistants coach. He did sit next to Murray at the end of the game with Murray having his arm around Pop. I feel that Murray really wants to be the leader of this team.

I had never been to a scrimmage before but really wanted to go this year. I got a chance to sit 4 rows from the court, closest I've ever been. It was a nice experience. I'd recommend for those who dont ever get a chance to get close seats. It's free with free parking. Will probably go again next year.

[ace3g]

I went to scrimmage, quick notables.



I had never been to a scrimmage before but really wanted to go this year. I got a chance to sit 4 rows from the court, closest I've ever been. It was a nice experience. I'd recommend for those who dont ever get a chance to get close seats. It's free with free parking. Will probably go again next year.

That is the main reason to go, I always tell people the exact same thing.

**As the players exited through the tunnel I believe it was Dejounte who threw one of his shoes into the stands.

***Still early I know but I hate when a player has a smooth jumper like LWIV yet has very inconsistent shooting %. Bertans is similar, hoping he can break away from that stigma this season.

[wildcardX]

Yeah lots of people are wondering why he can't dominate in regular games. I don't really watch practice to see Forbes, but do you think it's a confidence issue?
I think he has the same issue as Simmons. Worried about getting pulled by Pop in a game for missing shots or screwing up. He's already doing that so he should just play his game.

[Duncan87]

https://youtu.be/cR6HNQN8Hrc

[Duncan87]

Extended highlights 👆

[dbestpro]

The whole game can still be seen on facebook. Just finished watching it.

[szkorhetz]

Gay seems like the player he was in Memphis. I am really surprised how much more athletic and healthy he seems, and his confidence is clearly through the roof.

[SwansonInSibagat]

Lonnie is already better than Number 2 at 19, offensively that is.

Give this kid a couple of years and he'd be a difference - maker.

[benfti]

I don’t care what it costs but I want us to re sign him to a longer deal at the end of the season

[SpursDynasty85]

Yeah lots of people are wondering why he can't dominate in regular games. I don't really watch practice to see Forbes, but do you think it's a confidence issue?

I think its a combination of games being more intense than practice, Bryn trying to hard to live up to those expectations and not letting the game come to him.

[Coach X]

It was good to see several line-ups, different structures and some combinations working well.

The Mills-Marco-Gay-Gasol core looks very good in offense: showing a lot of men and ball movement, taking advantage of great spacing with good passing. White didn't play very well but could be a good fit to complete this second unit, whilst inserting Cunningham would improve the defense and general toughness of this group. Forbes would complete a full attack mode unit and Poetl would make sense as well, in order to add rim protection, rebound, and physicality.

Another clear conclusion after watching the practice is that any pure shooter next to Aldridge, DeRozan, and Murray will get a good number of open shots. Forbes in the first quarter and Bertans more regularly took and hit a good number of threes. Forbes can't play any defense even against bench NBA players so I don't consider starting him a real option (despite Pop could decide to do it). To me, Bertans should start at SF or PF, regardlessly. I don't see Popovich renouncing to play two bigs so Gasol/Poetl could start, play a few minutes and be substituted by Rudy Gay (on a 6th man but true starter role). Patty could replace Bertans and so on and so on.

Lonnie Walker looks promising every time we watch him play. It's a shame he's too raw yet so the best scenario for him is to play 30min/game in Austin. The kid can create his own shot in all kind of 1on1 situations. White can make pays and shoot, Murray can rebound, play good defense and has a character, but Walker is clearly more talented than both.

DeRozan is still vulnerable in individual defense but I've noticed he's working hard on team defense. He's focused when he's away off the ball, trying to have a good positioning and helping/rotating as needed. He just lacks a little of pride in 1on1 action, hopefully that will come as he gains confidence and he fells more comfortable into the group.

The scrimmage was really interesting, we watched a lot of things from our players. I have one question for the ones who were at the AT&T: Was Ginobili around the Black Team bench?

[boutons_deux]

Why is the fucking video interlaced?

probably not the usual camera crew and cameras

[gilmor2002]

Gay just remind me so much of Horry..

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iBzLej3wX8

[TimmyBuckets]

After seeing Lonnie on the court, yall think he'll get good time on the court this year?

[SAGirl]

After seeing Lonnie on the court, yall think he'll get good time on the court this year?
Only if there are injuries... And if Forbes/White flop big time.

[TimmyBuckets]

Only if there are injuries... And if Forbes/White flop big time.

Don't think Lonnie will replace Forbes? Looks like that project failed imho.

[playbonner15]

Belinelli's shot selections :lol

[SAGirl]

Don't think Lonnie will replace Forbes? Looks like that project failed imho.
I just think our perception of Forbes isn’t the same Pop has and he’s very likely to get a lot of opportunities until it becomes absolutely clear he’s not an NBA player, or the opposite: that he is. I don’t think he’s considered a failed experiment or he wouldn’t have gotten a 2 year deal.

[picnroll]

Walker looked very good. He only had one shot that didn’t look good. Everything else was on target. Good enough handles and solid defense given it’s so early. Hard to see how he doesn’t get time with the Spurs.

Don’t understand the hate for White. He had a couple of turnovers but otherwise played a pretty solid game imo.

[dbestpro]

Biggest surprise - How well Forbes played.
Biggest disappointment - How bad White played.

Of note is Walker has a tendency of playing better when playing with better players. He will get some minutes at the NBA level particularly if White continues to play so badly.

[sasaint]

I just think our perception of Forbes isn’t the same Pop has and he’s very likely to get a lot of opportunities until it becomes absolutely clear he’s not an NBA player, or the opposite: that he is. I don’t think he’s considered a failed experiment or he wouldn’t have gotten a 2 year deal.

timvp started the thread about player pairings that indicated Forbes was substantially better than the common perception on ST.

[JPB]

What is that Facebook thing you all talking about ?

[Pavlov]

timvp started the thread about player pairings that indicated Forbes was substantially better than the common perception on ST.IT CAN'T BE HE SUCKS BECAUSE I SAID SO

[SAGirl]

timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) started the thread about player pairings that indicated Forbes was substantially better than the common perception on ST.
Very matchup dependent.

[Dex]

Belinelli's shot selections :lol

Belinelli is coming out firing, and I don't think that is any coincidence. He is shooting way more than he did during his last stint with the Spurs, and even when he was with Sacramento or Philly.

It may just be because it's preseason and the games don't matter so he feels like he has a green light...or it could be that the coaches are grooming him to be our Manu Lite and be a bench gunner. Time will tell...

[tonight...you]

Belinelli is coming out firing, and I don't think that is any coincidence. He is shooting way more than he did during his last stint with the Spurs, and even when he was with Sacramento or Philly.

It may just be because it's preseason and the games don't matter so he feels like he has a green light...or it could be that the coaches are grooming him to be our Manu Lite and be a bench gunner. Time will tell...
Probably Pop telling him to go ahead and gun.

[r0drig0lac]

Probably Pop telling him to go ahead and gun.

agree, Bertans also seems to have that same freedom

[gambit1990]

didn’t watch so still haven’t seen lonnie in action. looking forward to seeing him vs an actual nba rotation.

[sasaint]

Very matchup dependent.

Possibly, but the chart he posted isn't that specific. For his averages to be as good as they are, he would have to have some scintillating performances to offset the pitiful performances that have shaped his reputation.

[SAGirl]

Possibly, but the chart he posted isn't that specific. For his averages to be as good as they are, he would have to have some scintillating performances to offset the pitiful performances that have shaped his reputation.
Small sample sizes, in specific pairings. Very bad when paired up with Mills and Tony since he's then a wing matched up with bigger guys. Remember Rodney Hood lighting him up? That's more significant than garbage time but you can't separate the two.
Context. Numbers are pretty to look at but context and matchups matter. New eason, less defensive players next to him matters. I will have to be convinced this season.

[sasaint]

Small sample sizes, in specific pairings. Very bad when paired up with Mills and Tony since he's then a wing matched up with bigger guys. Remember Rodney Hood lighting him up? That's more significant than garbage time but you can't separate the two.
Context. Numbers are pretty to look at but context and matchups matter. New eason, less defensive players next to him matters. I will have to be convinced this season.

Yeah, I will be, too. I was just amazed at the pairings numbers for Forbes, and I'm just kind of being devil's advocate with you. I doubt he will ever become a plus performer, but I will keep my fingers crossed. Pop sees more of him than anybody; he must see something in him... ?

[SAGirl]

Yeah, I will be, too. I was just amazed at the pairings numbers for Forbes, and I'm just kind of being devil's advocate with you. I doubt he will ever become a plus performer, but I will keep my fingers crossed. Pop sees more of him than anybody; he must see something in him... ?
He's a special shooter in practice. Needs to be that good every night to get steady minutes.

The team needs shooting bc their main players don't shoot the 3 in sufficient volume. So he's going to get plenty of opportunities. I think it's possible that the impact you see is a reflection of context. He had a positive impact bc the starters were so starved for spacing and shooting that a somewhat good shooter will bump their offense a lot, more than his individual skills absent context would warrant otherwise.

Considering the SL is still starved for shooters he might still be a positive pairing with some guys. I don't know if you grasp what I mean. If no one can shoot well enough on a particular game in the starting lineup, he may come in hit a couple of 3s and impact positively immediately without him doing much of anything else great. But pair him with undersized guards and what he does offensively isn't going to be enough.

Not sure his impact on the bench is the same since they have a lot of shooters already and poor creators and several small guards.

I am now expecting Dex to change his avatar bc it wouldn't surprise to see Forbes start a few games.

[Hoops Czar]

Possibly, but the chart he posted isn't that specific. For his averages to be as good as they are, he would have to have some scintillating performances to offset the pitiful performances that have shaped his reputation.

This goes beyond reputation. He's been a negative player for the Raptors in every year of his career except 2010-11. No point going back that far but here's his last three seasons.

on/off #'s

2015-16

RS: -6.1 PS: -4.8

2016-17

RS: -4.7 PS: -13.0

2017-18

RS: -2.7 PS: -18.1

[Chinook]

This goes beyond reputation. He's been a negative player for the Raptors in every year of his career except 2010-11. No point going back that far but here's his last three seasons.

on/off #'s

2015-16

RS: -6.1 PS: -4.8

2016-17

RS: -4.7 PS: -13.0

2017-18

RS: -2.7 PS: -18.1

Bryn's first year was 2016-2017. He was in school in 2015. I imagine you're talking about DeRozan, but that's off-topic as shit.

[Chinook]

Possibly, but the chart he posted isn't that specific. For his averages to be as good as they are, he would have to have some scintillating performances to offset the pitiful performances that have shaped his reputation.

As I've said, Bryn's analytics are actually great. Guys apparently don't score well on him when they actually shoot. Dunno if that's the result of help that leads to others having bad numbers. The pairings don't suggest that. Some of his team metrics do, though.

[Ice009]

I just want Walker to play. I don't give a crap about him spending time in Austin. I know he's not as polished as Donovan Mitchell was as a rookie, but if multiple people are touting Lonnie to be the next Donovan Mitchell, I want to see him playing now. Give him some real chances throughout the season and see how he goes. If he doesn't do well and shows he's not ready, then maybe send him to Austin later in the year.

Oh, and I forgot the main reason I want him to play - I believe he has a lot more defensive potential than almost all of the other wings in the team. With his size, strength and athleticism, he has a chance to be a really good defender, so that is the main reason I'd like to see him getting court time. I want to see if he can start out focusing on defense and go from there. This team badly needs perimeter defense on the wing.

I really do wonder, if Donovan was on the Spurs last season, would he have played and become the player he did for Utah in SA, or would Pop have not played him much at all?

[Hoops Czar]

Bryn's first year was 2016-2017. He was in school in 2015. I imagine you're talking about DeRozan, but that's off-topic as shit.

:lmao Yeah, I guess it is. If people are still trying to find the positives in Bryn Forbes, forget looking under rocks, You'll have to dig up the earth's crust. I don't care how well he plays in glorified scrimmages, he provides zero impact on a basketball court during actual games. I don't know why people are so enamoured with a player's offense that they're willing to forget or gloss over their defensive shortcomings. What little, microscopic production he might provide offensively ends up being given right back on the defensive end. And this year, the Spurs won't be able to hide him on the court, not even a little bit.

[Hoops Czar]

As I've said, Bryn's analytics are actually great. Guys apparently don't score well on him when they actually shoot. Dunno if that's the result of help that leads to others having bad numbers. The pairings don't suggest that. Some of his team metrics do, though.

I don't know but, could it be that he's being matched up against poor shooters? Sometimes, players just miss shots. Does the metrics show how many times he F'ed up his assignments or completely lost track of his man? I've seen chickens with no head have better awareness of their surroundings. Maybe this is where the luck factor comes into play.

[sasaint]

As I've said, Bryn's analytics are actually great. Guys apparently don't score well on him when they actually shoot. Dunno if that's the result of help that leads to others having bad numbers. The pairings don't suggest that. Some of his team metrics do, though.

It would be great if it were a matter of finding the right pairings for Bryn to flourish - as in the lineup last night with Dijon and DeMar. The Spurs would be a great deal more dynamic with Bryn consistently nailing threes at a percentage in the high 30's.

[cd021]

I just think our perception of Forbes isn’t the same Pop has and he’s very likely to get a lot of opportunities until it becomes absolutely clear he’s not an NBA player, or the opposite: that he is. I don’t think he’s considered a failed experiment or he wouldn’t have gotten a 2 year deal.
I think the two year deal was them locking up a player that they liked and that other teams didn't seem to have interest in. I think fan perception- at least mine, certainly, is that he is fairly one dimensional with 3pt shooting being his only average to above average skill. He shot it well, if extremely inconsistently season- that being said, if White had that same opportunity i'm not sure that he wouldn't have played as well. As a deep bench guy, he's fine but I really hope that he isn't a rotation player.

[cd021]

I just want Walker to play. I don't give a crap about him spending time in Austin. I know he's not as polished as Donovan Mitchell was as a rookie, but if multiple people are touting Lonnie to be the next Donovan Mitchell, I want to see him playing now. Give him some real chances throughout the season and see how he goes. If he doesn't do well and shows he's not ready, then maybe send him to Austin later in the year.

Oh, and I forgot the main reason I want him to play - I believe he has a lot more defensive potential than almost all of the other wings in the team. With his size, strength and athleticism, he has a chance to be a really good defender, so that is the main reason I'd like to see him getting court time. I want to see if he can start out focusing on defense and go from there. This team badly needs perimeter defense on the wing.

I really do wonder, if Donovan was on the Spurs last season, would he have played and become the player he did for Utah in SA, or would Pop have not played him much at all?
Pop does play rookies, but not unless they play at a position of need. Kawhi was a legit SF- something that the Spurs desperately needed and slotted him in behind RJ. Splitter ,on the other hand, got injured early and missed some of training camp and the preseason iirc and that cost him a chance to crack the murderers row of the Duncan, Blair, McDyess, Bonner rotation :lol

[Pavlov]

As I've said, Bryn's analytics are actually great. Guys apparently don't score well on him when they actually shoot. Dunno if that's the result of help that leads to others having bad numbers. The pairings don't suggest that. Some of his team metrics do, though.This is something I think many people may have whiffed on completely regarding Forbes. He doesn't have the physical tools to be a good defender apart from being relatively quick, but he does put himself where he is required to be by his defensive assignments. That alone can bother opponents into shooting a lower percentage.

He may look ineffective guarding someone one-on-one but the point is he is there to do it in the first place; that's something in itself.

[r0drig0lac]

I just want Walker to play. I don't give a crap about him spending time in Austin. I know he's not as polished as Donovan Mitchell was as a rookie, but if multiple people are touting Lonnie to be the next Donovan Mitchell, I want to see him playing now. Give him some real chances throughout the season and see how he goes. If he doesn't do well and shows he's not ready, then maybe send him to Austin later in the year.

Oh, and I forgot the main reason I want him to play - I believe he has a lot more defensive potential than almost all of the other wings in the team. With his size, strength and athleticism, he has a chance to be a really good defender, so that is the main reason I'd like to see him getting court time. I want to see if he can start out focusing on defense and go from there. This team badly needs perimeter defense on the wing.

I really do wonder, if Donovan was on the Spurs last season, would he have played and become the player he did for Utah in SA, or would Pop have not played him much at all?

no way

[SAGirl]

I think the two year deal was them locking up a player that they liked and that other teams didn't seem to have interest in. I think fan perception- at least mine, certainly, is that he is fairly one dimensional with 3pt shooting being his only average to above average skill. He shot it well, if extremely inconsistently season- that being said, if White had that same opportunity i'm not sure that he wouldn't have played as well. As a deep bench guy, he's fine but I really hope that he isn't a rotation player.
I agree with you.

[ceperez]

As I've said, Bryn's analytics are actually great. Guys apparently don't score well on him when they actually shoot. Dunno if that's the result of help that leads to others having bad numbers. The pairings don't suggest that. Some of his team metrics do, though.

Well, could it be because (1) players guarded by Bryn are expected to force the issue and score (2) that player may not be the most efficient offensive player (3) Bryn already knows that said player is going to attempt to score (instead of pass).

Paired with Mills or Parker, the opponents offense still has a option to exploit the other player (leading to more unpredictability).

Let's get real, Spurs got a bargain for two years with Forbes. $6m for two years for a player who is young and has shown improvement in the last 2 years is a bargain by NBA standards. He's one of the few players in the team that nobody is going to be surprised if he hits 5 3 pointers in a game.

[spurs10]

Tonight's game..see it live or listen on the radio I suppose.

[ceperez]

I just want Walker to play. I don't give a crap about him spending time in Austin. I know he's not as polished as Donovan Mitchell was as a rookie, but if multiple people are touting Lonnie to be the next Donovan Mitchell, I want to see him playing now. Give him some real chances throughout the season and see how he goes. If he doesn't do well and shows he's not ready, then maybe send him to Austin later in the year.

Oh, and I forgot the main reason I want him to play - I believe he has a lot more defensive potential than almost all of the other wings in the team. With his size, strength and athleticism, he has a chance to be a really good defender, so that is the main reason I'd like to see him getting court time. I want to see if he can start out focusing on defense and go from there. This team badly needs perimeter defense on the wing.

I really do wonder, if Donovan was on the Spurs last season, would he have played and become the player he did for Utah in SA, or would Pop have not played him much at all?

Walker playing in G-league will help him improve his game. I want him to get to know the system first before he becomes a regular. I expect him to play mid-way of the season.

[Mugen]

This is something I think many people may have whiffed on completely regarding Forbes. He doesn't have the physical tools to be a good defender apart from being relatively quick, but he does put himself where he is required to be by his defensive assignments. That alone can bother opponents into shooting a lower percentage.

He may look ineffective guarding someone one-on-one but the point is he is there to do it in the first place; that's something in itself.

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