ragas
10-05-2018, 07:27 AM
After timvp's interesting analysis of the Spurs roster, I looked at the stats of last year's Raptors roster, more precisely the 5-man-lineups.
First: Some of the numbers are based on a very small sample size. So you have to take it carefully.
Poeltl had some nice net ratings with all of the lineups he played in, except 2 lineups with Demar. These were really bad. Not so tragic, one might think. It could also be on other players, who made it that bad. Unfortunately, when you take a look at Demar's numbers, it's noticeable that he made every 5-man-lineup better except the lineups with Poeltl.
https://i.imgur.com/yCozw6D.jpg
The net rating of Derozan's & Poeltl's 2-man-lineups underpin the theory. In both cases their pairing is among the worst 3.
https://i.imgur.com/7Wlr8In.jpg
So what's the problem with them? Is it on offense or on defense?
Poeltl's offensive ratings took a hit when he played with DeRozan & Lowry. Not so when he played with DeRozan & VanFleet.
Same for DeRozan. There is one 5-man-lineup that played worse with DeMar, it had also Poeltl & DeMar in it. (The other one has a 4-minute sample-size.)
https://i.imgur.com/gPs99Ag.jpg
When it comes to defense it gets really bad.
Again: Poeltl's defense took a hit when playing with DeMar & Lowry. When VanFleet was involved instead of Lowry the rating wasn't good, but at least it was better than combinations without Poeltl.
Derozan's defensive ratings got worse in all 5-man-lineups with Poeltl.
https://i.imgur.com/yCozw6D.jpg
Conclusion: It wasn't so much a problem between Demar & Jakob, but there was no chemistry at all, when coach Casey mixed up the bench and starters. So it didn't work well, when Poeltl played with the starters guards. Same for the defense, but much more extreme, because of Demar's defensive liabilities.
But what does it mean for the Spurs?
I hope they won't use hockey line-ups like the Raptors. So that Demar & Jakob develop some chemistry with all of the Spurs players. But both have to get better when they leave their comfort zone.
Poeltl has to be more active and agressive on offense. Play with confidence! On defense he has the tendency to overhelp. That's why he needs at last one good defensive guard, when Demar shows no improvement.
Demar has to be more active and agressive on defense. On offense: Less isolation plays, more ball movement. He got better with it last season, but that has to continue.
First: Some of the numbers are based on a very small sample size. So you have to take it carefully.
Poeltl had some nice net ratings with all of the lineups he played in, except 2 lineups with Demar. These were really bad. Not so tragic, one might think. It could also be on other players, who made it that bad. Unfortunately, when you take a look at Demar's numbers, it's noticeable that he made every 5-man-lineup better except the lineups with Poeltl.
https://i.imgur.com/yCozw6D.jpg
The net rating of Derozan's & Poeltl's 2-man-lineups underpin the theory. In both cases their pairing is among the worst 3.
https://i.imgur.com/7Wlr8In.jpg
So what's the problem with them? Is it on offense or on defense?
Poeltl's offensive ratings took a hit when he played with DeRozan & Lowry. Not so when he played with DeRozan & VanFleet.
Same for DeRozan. There is one 5-man-lineup that played worse with DeMar, it had also Poeltl & DeMar in it. (The other one has a 4-minute sample-size.)
https://i.imgur.com/gPs99Ag.jpg
When it comes to defense it gets really bad.
Again: Poeltl's defense took a hit when playing with DeMar & Lowry. When VanFleet was involved instead of Lowry the rating wasn't good, but at least it was better than combinations without Poeltl.
Derozan's defensive ratings got worse in all 5-man-lineups with Poeltl.
https://i.imgur.com/yCozw6D.jpg
Conclusion: It wasn't so much a problem between Demar & Jakob, but there was no chemistry at all, when coach Casey mixed up the bench and starters. So it didn't work well, when Poeltl played with the starters guards. Same for the defense, but much more extreme, because of Demar's defensive liabilities.
But what does it mean for the Spurs?
I hope they won't use hockey line-ups like the Raptors. So that Demar & Jakob develop some chemistry with all of the Spurs players. But both have to get better when they leave their comfort zone.
Poeltl has to be more active and agressive on offense. Play with confidence! On defense he has the tendency to overhelp. That's why he needs at last one good defensive guard, when Demar shows no improvement.
Demar has to be more active and agressive on defense. On offense: Less isolation plays, more ball movement. He got better with it last season, but that has to continue.