Lonnie Walker IV Suffers Torn Meniscus, To Undergo Surgery

[LkrFan]

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I wonder how long he'll be out?

[bklynspursfan]

Dammit

[jeebus]

James Anderson 2.0

[bklynspursfan]

He looks fine. Will get plenty of rest either way this year, no way Pop plays a rookie

He's the highest pick since Kawhi, and Kawhi played a great deal. Granted we didn't have much else at the 3, but still. He could've played more than the usual rook does

[loveforthegame]

Damn. :td

[TheRemix]

Welp thats that. Wanted to see more of this kid. Fuck

[bklynspursfan]

Back before the new year hopefully. Obviously a blow cause he needs as much reps as possible, but could be worse. 8 weeks is December 1st

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[Harry Callahan]

Two non contact injuries in almost no playing time and now will be out for weeks or months. Not looking good at all.

Looks like the breaks are not going to go our way for awhile. Sucks.

Would they sew the tear or remove the Cartilage? The Spurs need to do whatever will allow for a long term recovery and not rush him back.

[MoSpur02]

That sucks for the Spurs and Walker.

[JPB]

Just keep the kid away form his uncle now.

[BillMc]

Didn't he have a meniscus tear in college too?

[kobyz]

I hope he gets a second opinion

[Flawless]

Hopefully this doesn't ruin his career like it did Andersons... Get better Lonnie :(

[cd98]

Torn meniscus is much better than what it could’ve been. Sad to see him out for that long, but glad it’s not an ACL year like what usually happens when there is a non contact knee injury.

[bklynspursfan]

Didn't he have a meniscus tear in college too?

Yea I believe the same leg

[longhorn]

Didn't he have a meniscus tear in college too?

yep. tore the meniscus in the same knee, less than a year and a half ago, in preseason

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19967089/lonnie-walker-miami-tears-meniscus-right-knee-requires-surgery

worthy of additional concern

[bklynspursfan]

1048665328434040832

[cd98]

James Anderson 2.0

Naw. James Anderson with broken foot was much worse than this.

[Ice009]

Two non contact injuries in almost no playing time and now will be out for weeks or months. Not looking good at all.

Looks like the breaks are not going to go our way for awhile. Sucks.

Would they sew the tear or remove the Cartilage? The Spurs need to do whatever will allow for a long term recovery and not rush him back.

I can't remember exactly, but Ron Artest/Metta World Peace did the quicker option (which I think was to remove the meniscus) when he was playing for the Lakers trying to get back for the playoffs. He was never the same after that and was pretty much done.

I agree that the Spurs should take the long term option if it's possible. I think repairing it is the better way to go. Someone correct me if I am wrong, though.

This really does suck because I wanted to see this kid play more than anyone else on the team.

[kobyz]

Spurs medical stuff missed it once again, should not approve him on draft

[RD2191]

Spurms :lol

[Ice009]

Spurs might have to think about getting a new medical staff. I don't know if they missed something, but if they did, they need to take a long, hard look at their medical staff.

[NickiRasgo]

Wow. Didn't he dunked during the warm-up before the Pistons?

https://www.facebook.com/Spurs/videos/185398395690154/?__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARD24oZy-qCgOwTsePxdIgJp0bm4Bi8fzFiThp2RStfE--eMF-IUUxSjZPE8mM4PDKxF2SCQdNx4_d4lOlplDNLVnDVh2XtI2iIl IC_20pH5k3LMeE_Np7FphTnmF1lJIS6cmgEtDjF8MNhKo7MKyX QqTK9alzVifCahuZIBeCwnXtI9H4bP&__tn__=-R

[Spurs da champs]

Bust

[ceperez]

Sucks big time! It's only a preseason game, doesn't have the same intensity as a regular season game. He might need to take it easy for this entire year and give his body time to grow. He's just 19 and he might be pushing his body to its limits.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1048669205892096005

[BillMc]

yep. tore the meniscus in the same knee, less than a year and a half ago, in preseason

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19967089/lonnie-walker-miami-tears-meniscus-right-knee-requires-surgery

worthy of additional concern


Yea I believe the same leg

Thanks guys. Definitely not a good sign 2 tears in the same knee before age 20.

[daslicer]

I can't remember, but Ron Artest did the quicker option (which I think was to remove the meniscus) when he was playing for the Lakers trying to get back for the playoffs. He was never the same after that and was pretty much done.

I agree that the Spurs should take the long term option if it's possible. I think repairing it is the better way to go. Someone correct me if I am wrong, though.

This really does suck because I wanted to see this kid play more than anyone else on the team.

Dwyane Wade also did the quicker option when he was in college. I remember hearing Wade say in an interview recently that if he could have done it all over again that he wouldn't have had the meniscus removed. Wade said the reasoning for this is because he believes he would have been able to play at a higher level longer.

[cd98]

I can't remember exactly, but Ron Artest/Metta World Peace did the quicker option (which I think was to remove the meniscus) when he was playing for the Lakers trying to get back for the playoffs. He was never the same after that and was pretty much done.

I agree that the Spurs should take the long term option if it's possible. I think repairing it is the better way to go. Someone correct me if I am wrong, though.

This really does suck because I wanted to see this kid play more than anyone else on the team.

Thats true but wasn’t Artest old by then anyway. I’m not sure it was the injury as much as the age.

[daslicer]

Spurs might have to think about getting a new medical staff. I don't know if they missed something, but if they did, they need to take a long, hard look at their medical staff.

Injuries like this can't be prevented. The kid is unfortunately injury prone which is why he fell as low as he did in the draft.

[Russ]

Torn meniscus early in your career?

You'll never be the same again -- just ask Tim Duncan and Russell Westbrook. :)

[TheGreatYacht]

Drunkford can't even hire a proper medical staff. Atrocity of a GM without Duncan spraying cologne on his stinky shit

[gambit1990]

wow.

[gambit1990]

rip spurs.

[Leetonidas]

:pctoss well I was wrong as fuck on that. Kid probably wasn't going to get much floor time this season and now he really won't

[timvp]

:pctoss

Yeah, this sucks. The silver lining is that it's only his meniscus and not a ligament. And it's better that it's medial and not lateral.

But it's pretty damn bad news because he already suffered a torn meniscus in his right knew while at Miami. I've never been able to find out whether they removed or tried to repair his meniscus at Miami. With this latest news, I'm assuming they tried to repair it ... but he returned to Miami pretty fast if it was indeed a repair job. Those usually keep you out longer.

With the 6-to-8 week timeline, it sounds like the plan is now to go in there and remove part of the meniscus. Most players recover their athleticism after such a procedure (Russell Westbrook had a couple medial meniscus surgeries about five years ago) so it's not the end of the world. Meniscus issues are usually career-shortening injuries rather than career-threatening. So in about 10 years or so, Walker IV will likely really start feeling that bone-on-bone discomfort that Tim Duncan dealt with starting in his early 30s.

[timvp]

If Walker IV had his lateral meniscus removed at Miami and is getting his medial meniscus removed on Monday, that's be really bad news. That'd put him in Brandon Roy territory (Roy had both removed in each knee). Hopefully we'll hear more specifics but given the state of the Express-News, I'm not holding my breath.

[weeks]

fuck. i am so tired of all the bad news this year :depressed

[Texas_Ranger]

next time don't draft a guy that already has one leg fucked up.

[TimDunkem]

Yet another wasted pick.

[dabom]

Drunkford can't even hire a proper medical staff. Atrocity of a GM without Duncan spraying cologne on his stinky shit

That's your shtick this year. :lmao

[BackHome]

Well good thing we got two first round draft picks next year... one for SF and now one for SG.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/GeorgeLangberg/status/1048681257524191232

[Spurtacular]

That's the problem with a lot of these hot shot high flyers. They think they're invincible and don't have to be smart about how they conduct themselves, day to day; and then a freak injury comes.

[TheGreatYacht]

Yet another wasted pick.
As is the norm for PATFO.

[DJR210]

I called this shit in the game thread.. Dude looked way too calm after the injury, that's when you know its bad.

[RD2191]

I called this shit in the game thread.. Dude looked way too calm after the injury, that's when you know its bad.

:lol tbh

[Killakobe81]

Sorry to hear this, hate to see Young guys get injured

[baseline bum]

Still can't believe this dumbfuck doesn't believe we landed on the moon.

[ceperez]

If Walker IV had his lateral meniscus removed at Miami and is getting his medial meniscus removed on Monday, that's be really bad news. That'd put him in Brandon Roy territory (Roy had both removed in each knee). Hopefully we'll hear more specifics but given the state of the Express-News, I'm not holding my breath.

Wow.... what luck!

Spurs down to just 13 players guaranteed.

How do you manage a 19 year old athletic player who's body seems to be breaking down from all the stress? Place him on ice for a year?

[Russ]

https://twitter.com/GeorgeLangberg/status/1048681257524191232

At this point, I'll take my chances on a path with no obstacles.

[Keepin' it real]

Didn't he have a meniscus tear in college too?

Yes, that's one of the reasons Pop and the Spurs liked him -- consistency.

[RD2191]

Should've packaged him for Butler :pctoss

[exstatic]

Spurs might have to think about getting a new medical staff. I don't know if they missed something, but if they did, they need to take a long, hard look at their medical staff.

Don’t drink the koolaid. To disparage the Spurs medical staff is to come down on the side of Cris Carter and The Group.

[Pavlov]

lol ST never fails to meltdown

[exstatic]

Hopefully this doesn't ruin his career like it did Andersons... Get better Lonnie :(

Anderson didn’t tear his meniscus, he’d had a fractured fifth metatarsal bone, which has ended other careers. Please stop passing incorrect information.

[exstatic]

I can't remember exactly, but Ron Artest/Metta World Peace did the quicker option (which I think was to remove the meniscus) when he was playing for the Lakers trying to get back for the playoffs. He was never the same after that and was pretty much done.

I agree that the Spurs should take the long term option if it's possible. I think repairing it is the better way to go. Someone correct me if I am wrong, though.

This really does suck because I wanted to see this kid play more than anyone else on the team.

Metta was old AF and way overweight by the time he got to LA. He was never the same because he was OLD.

[Flawless]

Did not know, thought it was the meniscus. Either way it sucks to see him out with this injury.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Still can't believe this dumbfuck doesn't believe we landed on the moon.

Ugh get over it and stop worshiping governments. You don't know that we landed on the moon.



Don’t drink the koolaid. To disparage the Spurs medical staff is to come down on the side of Cris Carter and The Group.

Our medical staff apparently fucked over Danny Green too.

Maybe they are incompetent after all.

[TD 21]

It's hard not to think the worst long term. Not with this injury specifically, but in general. I knew there had to be a reason a player with all of his obvious attributes was available at 18, beyond his previous meniscus tear and a possible rapid decline around 30. Outside of the top few picks, GM's aren't passing up a player who conceivably or theoretically possesses star potential because of what he might look like 10 years down the line.

Unfortunately, everything probably gets pushed back a season now. He can't be trusted health wise at this point, so they're going to have to find a credible, placeholder 3 and D wing.

[baseline bum]

Ugh get over it and stop worshiping governments. You don't know that we landed on the moon.

:rollin

[Pavlov]

Walker wasn't going to play much this year anyway. Such drama.

[Mikeanaro]

Fuck, all that nice haircut for nothing.

[tim_duncan_fan]

:rollin

:elephant There's no reason to believe something just because 'Merica said so. We very well may have landed on the moon. Can we verify that? No. And is our government one to lie about things? :elephant

[ceperez]

Sad to find Lonnie to be so injury prone!

Ankle injury in Summer League, had to be shut down.
Groin injury first pre-season game. No show.
Shot 100% on 3 out of 3 in 2nd pre-season game. Meniscus tear.

Looks like he needs to be iced for the entire season.

[Harry Callahan]

Sad to find Lonnie to be so injury prone!

Ankle injury in Summer League, had to be shut down.
Groin injury first pre-season game. No show.
Shot 100% on 3 out of 3 in 2nd pre-season game. Meniscus tear.

Looks like he needs to be iced for the entire season.

I would red shirt the guy and get him 100% given what has happened to him over the last 1 1/2 years. Perhaps the U of Miami doctors did not take care of everything last year.

Lonnie has a ton of athletic ability even compared to other NBA players. Pop and RC should just be patient - I'm sure they will be careful with him going forward.

[Pavlov]

I would red shirt the guy and get him 100% given what has happened to him over the last 1 1/2 years. Perhaps the U of Miami doctors did not take care of everything last year.

Lonnie has a ton of athletic ability even compared to other NBA players. Pop and RC should just be patient - I'm sure they will be careful with him going forward.

Not redshirting but definitely a no-pressure recovery. Absolutely no reason to rush this.

[J_Paco]

Torn meniscus early in your career?

You'll never be the same again -- just ask Tim Duncan and Russell Westbrook. :)

Yeah, Westbrook who had multiple surgeries to correct/repair the tear. But, but, but, the Spurs missed this "non - contact/freak injury" so the medical staff should be fired.....

Also, didn't Bertans suffer two ACL tears on the same knee? It has hurt his athleticism, obviously, but he's made it to the NBA and still has room for growth.

Spurstalk, overreaction central.....

[baseline bum]

:elephant There's no reason to believe something just because 'Merica said so. We very well may have landed on the moon. Can we verify that? No. And is our government one to lie about things? :elephant

I don't believe it because America said it. I believe it because it would have been harder to fake than to actually do. Did they put the entire moon set inside a vomit comet to simulate the moon's lower gravitational acceleration? Now that would have been impressive.

LOL conspiritards

[ceperez]

I would red shirt the guy and get him 100% given what has happened to him over the last 1 1/2 years. Perhaps the U of Miami doctors did not take care of everything last year.

Lonnie has a ton of athletic ability even compared to other NBA players. Pop and RC should just be patient - I'm sure they will be careful with him going forward.

That amount of athletic talent isn't going to amount to much if he can't keep healthy.

He's only 19 and he keeps getting injured, something is either wrong with his body or with his training. I suspect it is his training, he's only 19 but has an NBA ready body.

Tiago Splitter was one of those rare fragile Spurs players. Played only 1 full season in 7 seasons.

Leonard's first two seasons, he missed almost 40 games.

[baseline bum]

At least Walker's not a flat earther level of retard like Kyrie Irving.

[bklynspursfan]

As is the norm for PATFO.

Yea clearly... :rollin

Really surprised you haven't taken your 'talents' elsewhere

[Nivek_ogre]

That's the problem with a lot of these hot shot high flyers. They think they're invincible and don't have to be smart about how they conduct themselves, day to day; and then a freak injury comes.
What the fuck are you talking about...

[rjv]

Walker wasn't going to play much this year anyway. Such drama.
ST as usual, act as if what Walker will do this season is minimal, unless he gets injured and then act as if he will be sorely missed.

[illusioNtEk]

I hope he gets a second opinion

:lmao

[J_Paco]

What the fuck are you talking about...

He is a moron and wishes more players were like Jimmer Fredetter. Unathletic, entitled, selfish and (most of all) White.....

[SAGirl]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1048669205892096005
I have PTSD with the injury report now. Specially the Spurs injury report in big headline letters

[ceperez]

Not redshirting but definitely a no-pressure recovery. Absolutely no reason to rush this.

Agree. He was slotted to play in the G-league this season. The only loss is the loss in player development time.

Sad that the only game he played with a Spurs uniform was never recorded.

[Pavlov]

Agree. He was slotted to play in the G-league this season. The only loss is the loss in player development time.
Yeah-- fewer, less important games and more practices will be more beneficial than ever after surgery and missing camp. I'd say there was a chance he could've developed into an important player for the mothership this season because he seems to be a quick learner, but it's all moot now.

[ceperez]

Yeah-- fewer, less important games and more practices will be more beneficial than ever after surgery and missing camp. I'd say there was a chance he could've developed into an important player for the mothership this season because he seems to be a quick learner, but it's all moot now.

It wasn't like a freak accident. Too many injuries in so short a time. Time for him to rest and focus on skill building.

[slick'81]

Such a shame

[wildcardX]

I can't remember exactly, but Ron Artest/Metta World Peace did the quicker option (which I think was to remove the meniscus) when he was playing for the Lakers trying to get back for the playoffs. He was never the same after that and was pretty much done.

I agree that the Spurs should take the long term option if it's possible. I think repairing it is the better way to go. Someone correct me if I am wrong, though.

This really does suck because I wanted to see this kid play more than anyone else on the team.

I think with the time frame they predict that it's a minor meniscus tear(radial or flap) where they make 2-3 holes and shave out the torn areas. The healing will be for the pain and swelling. Usually those types of tears won't have a blood supply, so no long term waiting to heal. Then general knee conditioning and strengthening to get back in game shape and prevention of another injury.

A meniscus repair is when they sew up a bigger tear that is deeper and has blood supply and is able to heal but the waiting to heal part takes longer. Those types of tissues take a lot longer than muscles to heal due to poor blood supply. Lonnie may have had this surgery at Miami, it may not have been completely healed or the area where it was repaired may not have blood supply thus the torn part of the meniscus was just sewn together. Then a small piece may have frayed off in the Detroit game, causing the injury he has now. Just a guess though without seeing the MRI report.

[DJR210]

I don't believe it because America said it. I believe it because it would have been harder to fake than to actually do. Did they put the entire moon set inside a vomit comet to simulate the moon's lower gravitational acceleration? Now that would have been impressive.

LOL conspiritards

I'm not a conspiritard, but the rush to the moon and battle for technological superiority during the cold war is a pretty legit reason to fake it. BTW, I do vaccinate my children.

[Rip Chord]

Medial meniscus. No big deal. Lateral, big problems.

[RD2191]

:lol @anyone who believes we landed on the moon. My uncle in Mexico said the shots were filmed in his backyard.

[baseline bum]

:lol @anyone who believes we landed on the moon. My uncle in Mexico said the shots were filmed in his backyard.

I filmed a donkey show with your mom in his backyard too

[Spurs Homer]

As if Pop was actually gonna play this kid ahead of Bryn Forbes -
this is probably bad news for the Austin team.

[jermaine]

Opens the door wide open for White now

[siraulo23]

rip

[Spurtacular]

What the fuck are you talking about...

If you do a dunk contest everyday for warmups, shit's gonna happen, ogre.

[Pavlov]

If you do a dunk contest everyday for warmups, shit's gonna happen, ogre.lol white people

[Mugen]

Thank god we have Bryn Forbes to hold the fort down. :tu


https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/07/71/02/aa/fort-washita-historic.jpg

[Spurtacular]

lol white people

lol cucks

[Dverde]

It’s an ankle sprain call in the specialists in New York

[Pavlov]

lol cucksalso usually white dudes like you

[playbonner15]

Thank god we have Bryn Forbes to hold the fort down. :tu


https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/07/71/02/aa/fort-washita-historic.jpg

:lol

[SpursDynasty85]

Guys with that much leap are always prone for some injuries like this. I hope he takes this as a warning and works very hard on his footwork and skills so he wont have to use so much of that dangerous athleticism.

[Spurtacular]

also usually white dudes like you

Certainly including you

[RD2191]

I filmed a donkey show with your mom in his backyard too

Dad?!?

[Pavlov]

Certainly including you:lol says the incel.

[Dverde]

It’s an ankle sprain call in the specialists in New York

[BatManu20]

Fuckin A. That sucks. Lonnie seems injury-prone so far in his young career. Hope he bounces back long-term like Timmy and Westbrook did from the same injury.

[Chinook]

Fuckin A. That sucks. Lonnie seems injury-prone so far in his young career. Hope he bounces back long-term like Timmy and Westbrook did from the same injury.

Hopefully this doesn't turn out any worse than Curry's ankle. Before often forget that Steph had his career stuttered by injuries for years. It wasn't just getting behind the eight-ball for a season. He was hurt so much that he was convinced to sign that tiny extension because he couldn't trust himself to stay healthy. I hate that Walker got reinjured, and I hope he and the team are doing what they should be doing for his long-term health. Just saying that starting off a career being injury-prone doesn't mean that player can't overcome the injuries enough to reach his potential.

[Das Texan]

I hope he gets a second opinion

maybe a third and a fourth also.

[gambit1990]

7/12/17

Miami freshman Lonnie Walker, a five-star prospect from the Class of 2017, tore the meniscus in his right knee during practice Tuesday morning and will undergo surgery later this week.

Walker, a 6-foot-5 guard, was a McDonald's All-American coming out of high school and thus is one of the most heralded recruits in Miami history. He's projected as a top-15 pick in the 2018 NBA Draft.

"I promise this will not slow me down," Walker tweeted Tuesday night.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/five-star-miami-freshman-lonnie-walker-suffers-torn-meniscus-during-practice/

[Chinook]

With that tweet, Walker's already said more to his fans than Kawhi did for months when he was out.

[Spurtacular]

:lol says the incel.

Yea, you're getting a lot of pussy spending your days in a mumu in front of a screen all day. :lmao

[Pavlov]

Yea, you're getting a lot of pussy spending your days in a mumu in front of a screen all day. :lmao:lol you're trying too hard

[Spurtacular]

:lol you're trying too hard

Are you telling us that you're getting a lot of pussy?

[Pavlov]

Are you telling us that you're getting a lot of pussy?:lmao obsessed with my personal life.

Keep trying. Especially in an upstairs thread. It's going to work out great for you.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao obsessed with my personal life.

Keep trying. Especially in an upstairs thread. It's going to work out great for you.

Did you not make it personal first?

If it's any consolation, I don't care about your personal life. I already know it's probably pretty sad.

[Pavlov]

Did you not make it personal first?

If it's any consolation, I don't care about your personal life. I already know it's probably pretty sad.Of course you care -- you're asking specific questions about it.

[BackHome]

You Two Need to Get A Room.

[DMC]

Never heard of a "medical meniscus". Is that a new body part? Did he mean "medial meniscus"? Maybe the Spurs staff is looking in the wrong areas.

[Ice009]

I think with the time frame they predict that it's a minor meniscus tear(radial or flap) where they make 2-3 holes and shave out the torn areas. The healing will be for the pain and swelling. Usually those types of tears won't have a blood supply, so no long term waiting to heal. Then general knee conditioning and strengthening to get back in game shape and prevention of another injury.

A meniscus repair is when they sew up a bigger tear that is deeper and has blood supply and is able to heal but the waiting to heal part takes longer. Those types of tissues take a lot longer than muscles to heal due to poor blood supply. Lonnie may have had this surgery at Miami, it may not have been completely healed or the area where it was repaired may not have blood supply thus the torn part of the meniscus was just sewn together. Then a small piece may have frayed off in the Detroit game, causing the injury he has now. Just a guess though without seeing the MRI report.

Thanks for this insight into these types of injuries.


Don’t drink the koolaid. To disparage the Spurs medical staff is to come down on the side of Cris Carter and The Group.

Yep, you and Daslicer are right. Nothing the Spurs medical staff could have done about it if he didn't show any signs of it bothering him.


Metta was old AF and way overweight by the time he got to LA. He was never the same because he was OLD.

No, he was playing a lot better before the got the meniscus removed. He dropped off a cliff after he came/rushed back.

[phxspurfan]

He's the highest pick since Kawhi, and Kawhi played a great deal. Granted we didn't have much else at the 3, but still. He could've played more than the usual rook does

relax, we're soon to get higher picks

[Chinook]

relax, we're soon to get higher picks

You mean high-seconds from when Dennis implodes the Raptors this year what what

[superbigtime]

Sucks

[davidbowie]

NO WAY WE'LL WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP NOW :frying:

[phxspurfan]

GWS make sure to watch all the film to train for all those new moves you're gonna have

[SAGirl]

Hopefully this doesn't turn out any worse than Curry's ankle. Before often forget that Steph had his career stuttered by injuries for years. It wasn't just getting behind the eight-ball for a season. He was hurt so much that he was convinced to sign that tiny extension because he couldn't trust himself to stay healthy. I hate that Walker got reinjured, and I hope he and the team are doing what they should be doing for his long-term health. Just saying that starting off a career being injury-prone doesn't mean that player can't overcome the injuries enough to reach his potential.
Well Curry got those “bionic ankle bracelets” to help with his weak ankles.

There’s really no telling how Walker goes from here. There’s the range of players from Westbrook to Wade to Rose unfortunately.

Its just a real bummer. And takes the hope he could compete this season for minutes, which was already very small, away. There’s no guarantee he doesn’t get hurt in the Gleague either. He got hurt in a practice in college and summer league. Moreover his injuries were not caused by heavy contact.

[SpurPadre]

Soft ass motherfucker, tbh.

[Kurgan]

Sucks but he was never going to get much playing time anyway with Pop's rookie doghouse bullshit. Still really disappointing as he looked to be the most athletic Spur on the roster.

[Nobull]

Well Curry got those “bionic ankle bracelets” to help with his weak ankles.

There’s really no telling how Walker goes from here. There’s the range of players from Westbrook to Wade to Rose unfortunately.

Its just a real bummer. And takes the hope he could compete this season for minutes, which was already very small, away. There’s no guarantee he doesn’t get hurt in the Gleague either. He got hurt in a practice in college and summer league. Moreover his injuries were not caused by heavy contact.
Are you predicting a ACL tear because that tore up Rose right knee.

[Chillen]

Not good to have players get banged up in the preseason. Get better Lonnie!

[Kawhitstorm]

Spurms :lol

:claw

[Kawhitstorm]

With that tweet, Walker's already said more to his fans than Kawhi did for months when he was out.

Kawhi doesn't give a rat ass for the folks that live by the dirty creek #inferioritycomplex

[BackHome]

Should you not be in Toronto wiping KY Ass?

[kobyz]

I blame it on his hair, and I'm not kidding, it's not comfortable to play with this kind of haircut and that's what happens...

[YGWHI]

DJ Murray, Loonie are young guys very active on IG/Twitter, they care about other people say about them online -they shouldn't but they do-... It's fairly safe to say that they/their fam read the biggest Spurs' fans forum.

It's sad to read all this shit about his hair, if he said a word more than other former Spur, if the team will get high picks...in a thread about an injured player.

GWS, Loonie. You're a great talent and will get better and better.

[Keepin' it real]

Can a rookie win Comeback Player of the Year? Cuz he gonna come back from this injury with a vengeance!

[CosmicCowboy]

There are lots of options on meniscus issues now. I basically have no meniscus in my left knee (bone on bone) and I get fake knee slime made out of rooster combs injected in my knee every 8 months or so that basically simulates a healthy meniscus.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

DJ Murray, Loonie are young guys very active on IG/Twitter, they care about other people say about them online -they shouldn't but they do-... It's fairly safe to say that they/their fam read the biggest Spurs' fans forum.

It's sad to read all this shit about his hair, if he said a word more than other former Spur, if the team will get high picks...in a thread about an injured player.

GWS, Loonie. You're a great talent and will get better and better.

Calls out others for disrespecting him but then goes on to misspell his name twice and disrespecting him by calling him Loonie. Subtle troll job. I like it:toast

[YGWHI]

Calls out others for disrespecting him but then goes on to misspell his name twice and disrespecting him by calling him Loonie. Subtle troll job. I like it:toast
My bad. I shouldn't post this early in the morning...

[JPB]

There are lots of options on meniscus issues now. I basically have no meniscus in my left knee (bone on bone) and I get fake knee slime made out of rooster combs injected in my knee every 8 months or so that basically simulates a healthy meniscus.

Are you still human ?

[SpursDynasty85]

There are lots of options on meniscus issues now. I basically have no meniscus in my left knee (bone on bone) and I get fake knee slime made out of rooster combs injected in my knee every 8 months or so that basically simulates a healthy meniscus.

That sounds pretty out there. Is that medically sanctioned and are there any possible side effects to that?

[Maddog]

That sounds pretty out there. Is that medically sanctioned and are there any possible side effects to that?

His neighbors definitely complain at sunrise

[picnroll]

His neighbors definitely complain at sunrise

and the chickens aren’t too happy either.

[CosmicCowboy]

Lol. Its all fda approved.

[NameLess Scrub]

Who's gonna score 8ppg in the G league now?

[venitian navigator]

news on the surgery?

[Dex]

news on the surgery?

The operation was successful, but the patient died.

[dabom]

Who keeps deleting my threads brah.

[K...]

Who keeps deleting my threads brah.

Your threads keep commiting suicide because they realize their own internal absurdist faults.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/1050123955024080897

[JeffDuncan]

The meniscus is that thing on top of his head, right? Are they sure that can be fixed in only 8 weeks?

[SupremeGuy]

Like a lot of people are saying, as soon as this piece of shit opened his mouth, everyone knew he was a fucking loser. Bust.

[hooperflash]

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/1050123955024080897
He better have good sources, Mr. Jabari "Self Diagnosis" Young

[Pavlov]

Like a lot of people are saying, as soon as this piece of shit opened his mouth, everyone knew he was a fucking loser. Bust.Who said that besides angry old white guys?

[KDKSpurs24]

Who said that besides angry old white guys?
Exactly.

[Joseph Kony]

at least with Murray out, white should get time when he comes back

[Nivek_ogre]

Who said that besides angry old white guys?

Yup. More cranky old bitches

[BackHome]

I would keep Walker out at least 4 months to make sure his other knee is not overly compensating and he tears that one. Take time with him really need to figure out his soft tissue issues he is a young guy maybe carrying to much muscle........?

[Ice009]

So it's been repaired and not taken out? If so, I thought repairs take longer to get back from, or is 6-8 weeks the usual timeline?

[SupremeGuy]

Who said that besides angry old white guys?Why are you obsessed with age and race? That's not healthy.

[Pavlov]

Why are you obsessed with age and race? That's not healthy.The angry old white guys obsessed with race are the only ones bitching about Walker.

[weeks]

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/1050123955024080897

if jabari is saying 6-8 weeks i fully expect him to suit up by 2019 preseason

[SAGirl]

I would keep Walker out at least 4 months to make sure his other knee is not overly compensating and he tears that one. Take time with him really need to figure out his soft tissue issues he is a young guy maybe carrying to much muscle........?
I am concerned about that too. He has so far seemed to have such brittle knees. He’s got to play and prove he can stay healthy at some point, but I don’t want him to rush rehab. There’s no point this season if the result is some other nag in the opposite leg.

[SAGirl]

if jabari is saying 6-8 weeks i fully expect him to suit up by 2019 preseason
Good point, Jabari and SA media in general aren’t the most reliable source. What’s tspence saying?

[ceperez]

I would keep Walker out at least 4 months to make sure his other knee is not overly compensating and he tears that one. Take time with him really need to figure out his soft tissue issues he is a young guy maybe carrying to much muscle........?

Rest will indeed help him. He's injured too often. At 19 years old, his body is still adjusting to all the changes. 4 months in ice will be good.

He should then spend time in Austin to et to know the system.

I don't want him back until maybe the post-season or next year.

[sasaint]

The meniscus is that thing on top of his head, right? Are they sure that can be fixed in only 8 weeks?

Dude's hair is a work of art that makes him look 6'10" and has to be a distraction to his defender. What's not to like? Heck, if the Spurs bring in another guard, I want Elfrid Payton. All-hair backcourt.

[sasaint]

if jabari is saying 6-8 weeks i fully expect him to suit up by 2019 preseason

Light work in Austin next spring, increasing slowly through the end of the G-league season.

[Dex]

Dude's hair is a work of art that makes him look 6'10" and has to be a distraction to his defender. What's not to like? Heck, if the Spurs bring in another guard, I want Elfrid Payton. All-hair backcourt.

Payton cut off that abomination he called a haircut.

Lonnie still going around lookin' like a tiki doll.

[SupremeGuy]

The angry old white guys obsessed with race are the only ones bitching about Walker.I am neither. Why are you so obsessed with age and race?

[tesseractive]

I am neither. Why are you so obsessed with age and race?
Then why can't you just let the dude play and cheer for him regardless of his political beliefs?

[bklynspursfan]

1050771865491398662

[Pavlov]

I am neither.What are you and why are you bitching about Walker like an old white guy?

[Chinook]

1050771865491398662

Nice to hear that 6-8 weeks was actually a conservative diagnosis. And this seems to back up the idea that this injury was really just a complication from his last one that needed to get cleaned up. The media has been downplaying the extent of all three of these injuries, and they've all turned out worse than they thought. Hope this is an exception.

[bklynspursfan]

Nice to hear that 6-8 weeks was actually a conservative diagnosis. And this seems to back up the idea that this injury was really just a complication from his last one that needed to get cleaned up. The media has been downplaying the extent of all three of these injuries, and they've all turned out worse than they thought. Hope this is an exception.

Yea, hopefully. Seems like it is from what note but guess we'll see.

[Chinook]

In case anyone is wondering:


Effects of a Partial Medial Meniscectomy
Arthroscopic partial medial meniscectomy is the most common outpatient surgery in the United States. However, meniscus injury and subsequent resection contributes to a 7 times greater risk for developing knee osteoarthritis (https://drrobertlaprademd.com/osteoarthritis-of-the-knee) later in life. While it is generally believed that most patients have an uncomplicated recovery following an arthroscopic partial medial meniscectomy, a close look at patients demonstrates that at least 1 out of 3 continue to have quadriceps strength deficits, subsequent overloading of the knee joint due to poor absorption from this muscle weakness, and decreased physical function which can last for months to years. Thus, quadriceps weakness can be one of the most modifiable risk factors to slow down the progression of arthritis after an arthroscopic partial medial meniscectomy. A physical therapy regimen that is started immediately after surgery can better prevent and address persistent strength deficits and activity limitations following an arthroscopic partial medial meniscectomy. It is important to decrease postoperative pain, work on immediate restoration of quadriceps voluntary activation, and restore joint motion. Through this, the potential to improve overall lower extremity and quadriceps strength and physical function would help to minimize the risk of knee arthritis progression. It is important to recognize that quadriceps weakness increases overall knee joint loading, and arthritic changes can initiate as early as 2 to 5 years after an arthroscopic partial meniscectomy. Thus, there is a critical early window to try to work on addressing muscle inhibition and restoring strength to the joint to slow down the progression of arthritis after a meniscectomy.

https://drrobertlaprademd.com/effects-of-a-partial-meniscectomy-on-articular-cartilage/

If the previous poster is correct that this is what Walker had done, it is short of scary. Could be done before the end of his rookie contract. It's completely up to how well the medical team and Walker work on preventing future injuries.

[SAGirl]

With regards to Walker specifically since he has already had complications in the knee he injured last year, and considering complications that can arise due to compensating for a still recently healing injury, plus his potential, it's definitely best to play it safe and easy.

Good to hear he may well feel fine sooner but they will be extra careful. The last thing they want is for him to blow out the other knee or reinjure the surgically repaired knee.

[ulosturedge]

Payton cut off that abomination he called a haircut.

Lonnie still going around lookin' like a tiki doll.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1935/43462043500_fec09b48be.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/29dAkkA)

Found him!

[SAGirl]

In case anyone is wondering:



https://drrobertlaprademd.com/effects-of-a-partial-meniscectomy-on-articular-cartilage/

If the previous poster is correct that this is what Walker had done, it is short of scary. Could be done before the end of his rookie contract. It's completely up to how well the medical team and Walker work on preventing future injuries.
Wow Chinook. Really scary stuff and you know what? He already had the injury a year ago so he has a high risk of developing osteoarthritis at a young age.

He looks like a very hard worker so I have no doubt he’s going to do whatever he can to strengthen the muscles in that leg. That still is just about reducing risk and improving odds as it were. I hope he doesn’t get the short end of the stick.

[BackHome]

Need to fly his Ass to Panama and get some stem cell treatment on that knee!!! If I had his money that’s what I would do. Stem Cell Institute

1. PRP
2. PTM

[SupremeGuy]

What are you and why are you bitching about Walker like an old white guy?Are you ever going to terms with your obsession over age and race? It's not healthy.

[SupremeGuy]

Then why can't you just let the dude play and cheer for him regardless of his political beliefs?Except he's not playing and is looking like a total bust.

[Pavlov]

Are you ever going to terms with your obsession over age and race? It's not healthy.lol you didn't answer

[SupremeGuy]

lol you didn't answerlol once again obsessed with age and race... proving my point. thanks

[Pavlov]

lol once again obsessed with age and race... proving my point. thanksJust wondering. If you're afraid to say on an anonymous message board, that's OK.

[SupremeGuy]

Just wondering. If you're afraid to say on an anonymous message board, that's OK.Yeah man, we get it. You're obsessed with things like race, age, ethnicity, etc. Good luck with that.

[Pavlov]

Yeah man, we get it. You're obsessed with things like race, age, ethnicity, etc. Good luck with that.I get it, you're afraid to say on a message board how different you are from old white dudes bitching about Walker for no reason at all.

[BackHome]

You two need to get a room ASAP.....:eyebrows

[SAGirl]

Pavlov needs a room with many targets.... and I don’t want one btw.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/mikecwright/status/1051520476852486145

[DJR210]

Ask SA210 aka Chewbacca how long a message board war w/ ChumpDumper can go.. make sure you are in for the long haul before you engage his successor

[Pavlov]

Ask SA210 aka Chewbacca how long a message board war w/ ChumpDumper can go.. make sure you are in for the long haul before you engage his successorThose photoshops tho...:lol

[DJR210]

Those photoshops tho...:lol

Pho.to you mean.. PS requires some talent

[SupremeGuy]

I get it, you're afraid to say on a message board how different you are from old white dudes bitching about Walker for no reason at all.Your obsession with white men is fucking weird. Who raised you to be such a bigot?

[Pavlov]

Your obsession with white men is fucking weird. Who raised you to be such a bigot?What do you care if you're not white or a man?

[BackHome]

I sense a lot of Sexual Tension between you two. ;)

[SupremeGuy]

What do you care if you're not white or a man?Because bigotry is general is a bad thing. Where are you from that it's ok to be a bigot?

[Pavlov]

Because bigotry is general is a bad thing. Where are you from that it's ok to be a bigot?:lolYou're the one who doesn't like Walker because of his hair.

[dabom]

Pavlov for Rookie Allstars this year. Dude be wrecking out here. Keep it up young gun. :tu

[BackHome]

How did I know Dafoom had to be involved. Lol

[runningnurse71]

What the fuck are these two bastards Supreme guy and Pavlov fighting about in this thread? Grow some brain idiots!

[ace3g]

Bo-ENO3heoM

[Duncan87]

Damn left got some bad muscle loss hopefully gets back with no setbacks orrrrr camera angle?

[hombre]

It's insane how much rehab has changed, you used to rest longer after a surgery like that. Walker is going to be great.

[RGMCSE]

It's insane how much rehab has changed, you used to rest longer after a surgery like that. Walker is going to be great.

Yeah that’s old thinking. Now they want you to get on your feet ASAP. Movement speeds up the healing.

[kobyz]

Bo-ENO3heoM

Still with that hair, he doesn't understand it's a problem?

[Ice009]

Still with that hair, he doesn't understand it's a problem?

You're a fuckwit. I've got longer than average hair. If you made a comment like that to me, I'd send you into tomorrow. Stop commenting on people's hair and beards.

[Maddog]

Still with that hair, he doesn't understand it's a problem?

Yeah, it's just extra weight on his joints. Will impede healing...

[John B]

looks like this guy would be back quick

[kobyz]

You're a fuckwit. I've got longer than average hair. If you made a comment like that to me, I'd send you into tomorrow. Stop commenting on people's hair and beards.

imo that way of haircut is not professional for a player, playing that way is not to be all in, look at that payton guy with similar hair that now cut it off cause he know he need to start take it serious now when his rookie contract over and he wants to stay in the league...

[bklynspursfan]

imo that way of haircut is not professional for a player, playing that way is not to be all in, look at that payton guy with similar hair that now cut it off cause he know he need to start take it serious now when his rookie contract over and he wants to stay in the league...

Tell that to guys like Rodman, Ben Wallace, etc... or anyone who played in the 70's for that matter. Your hair has nothing to do with how serious take the game.

[offset formation]

Still with that hair, he doesn't understand it's a problem?

You are the worst poster here now that auntfocker pinked himself into exile.

[SupremeGuy]

:lolYou're the one who doesn't like Walker because of his hair.I haven't mentioned his hair, idiot. :lol

So are you ever going to answer why you're so obsessed with white men?

[Dex]

Damn left got some bad muscle loss hopefully gets back with no setbacks orrrrr camera angle?

Camera angle. It's only been like 2 weeks since he last played. Knee surgery doesn't cause muscle to just magically disappear.

[RodNIc91]

It’s not knee surgery, but rather the inactivity that comes with it. It's amazing how much muscle you can lose in such a short period of time.

[dbestpro]

Could care less about tats, hair, race, gender, etc. The question is can he/she/other play the game.

[SAGirl]

Don't see that knee lasting a long time in good playing shape sorry to say and I hope I am wrong in that feeling...

[JeffDuncan]

Don't see that knee lasting a long time in good playing shape sorry to say and I hope I am wrong in that feeling...

Why not? Think it needs a big bolt through it, like Frankenstein's neck?

[hombre]

Still with that hair, he doesn't understand it's a problem?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/044/247/297.png

[Hoops Czar]

Tell that to guys like Rodman, Ben Wallace, etc... or anyone who played in the 70's for that matter. Your hair has nothing to do with how serious take the game.
Rodman was only half serious about basketball.

[kobyz]

Tell that to guys like Rodman, Ben Wallace, etc... or anyone who played in the 70's for that matter. Your hair has nothing to do with how serious take the game.

You can only legitimate compare his hair to that of payton guy with how uncomfortable and unnatural that thing sit on his head, you can ignore how you want, but it does a problem for a professional player trying to be his best!

[John B]

You can only legitimate compare his hair to that of payton guy with how uncomfortable and unnatural that thing sit on his head, you can ignore how you want, but it does a problem for a professional player trying to be his best!
Well the guy has tremendous neck, so :lol:lol

[SAGirl]

Why not? Think it needs a big bolt through it, like Frankenstein's neck?
Yea... He looks like superman on the outside but it feels like on the inside of that knee things are duct taped. The picture doesn't help with the image in my head since there's tape on the outside of the knee. He's too young to notice it now, probably will be fine for some time but it has an expiration date. Hope it doesn't come when he's in an expensive second deal.

[rjv]

Don't see that knee lasting a long time in good playing shape sorry to say and I hope I am wrong in that feeling...


well, you generally think anyone with a recurring issue is dead in the water (see leonard).

[SAGirl]

well, you generally think anyone with a recurring issue is dead in the water (see leonard).
Don't get your point and don't care. Trusting what he and his camp were representing at the time, a dude missing an entire season with chronic pain and a bone growing in his thigh. Excuse me not if it bothers you, or the dude lied.

[rjv]

Don't get your point and don't care. Trusting what he and his camp were representing at the time, a dude missing an entire season with chronic pain and a bone growing in his thigh. Excuse me not if it bothers you, or the dude lied.

well yeah, you didn't get my point because it had nothing to do with whether or not leonard lied or not. my point was simply that you base your medical opinions on a general inclination towards pessimism alone as opposed to any medical merit. but hey, you don't care so why does it matter?

[SAGirl]

well yeah, you didn't get my point because it had nothing to do with whether or not leonard lied or not. my point was simply that you base your medical opinions on a general inclination towards pessimism alone as opposed to any medical merit. but hey, you don't care so why does it matter?
Bleh bleh bleh. I don't give medical opinions dude... ;)

[Pavlov]

Yea... He looks like superman on the outside but it feels like on the inside of that knee things are duct taped. The picture doesn't help with the image in my head since there's tape on the outside of the knee. He's too young to notice it now, probably will be fine for some time but it has an expiration date. Hope it doesn't come when he's in an expensive second deal.Dude just had surgery on his knee. Don't you think they might want to cover up the incision sites for a few days?

[SAGirl]

Dude just had surgery on his knee. Don't you think they might want to cover up the incision sites for a few days?
Ignore ... No need to go down a rabbit hole...

[Pavlov]

Ignore ... No need to go down a rabbit hole...Great. I'll just say you're overreacting to bandages and be done with you.

[ismael-robert]

U said u dont give medical opinions but u gave the medical opinion his knee wont last long....

[Dejounte]

U said u dont give medical opinions but u gave the medical opinion his knee wont last long....

LMAO right? Sagirl, I enjoy your posts but in this thread there really isn't logic to your posts. I would think the organization and their health group learned their lesson from the Kawhi drama.

[ismael-robert]

I used to but she has been more active lately n all the posts are emotionally based speculation with not much facts

[rjv]

U said u dont give medical opinions but u gave the medical opinion his knee wont last long....

well, in some ways. she's right. her medical opinions are so speculative and lacking in medical evidence they essentially aren't medical opinions.

[J_Paco]

Don't see that knee lasting a long time in good playing shape sorry to say and I hope I am wrong in that feeling...

You are entirely too pessimistic. Yes, two knee injuries early on could doom him (ala Brandon Roy) but we've seen other players suffer similar injuries and have great careers (ala Tim Duncan, Dwyane Wade and Russell Westbrook).

I think it is better to take a wait and see approach instead constantly worrying about things out of our control.

[look_at_g_shred]

Is this the same injury Westbrook had twice?

[J_Paco]

Is this the same injury Westbrook had twice?

Similar, yes. Even down to (pure speculation on my part) them needing to "go back in" and make some corrective procedure. It sounds like that is what they've done with Walker and not a complete repair or removal of the meniscus.

[TDMVPDPOY]

if his hairstyle doesnt affect his game then your wrong,

him and like anyone else in the league who are fkn scrubs who havnt proven shit, who focus shit into their hair to stand out on tv, just like those scrubs who started to wear arm sleeves and leg sleeves, let alone tattoo sleeves like its a fashion trend...

to busy trying to look good on tv, bbut their game are total shit

[Austin_Toros]

Don't see that knee lasting a long time in good playing shape sorry to say and I hope I am wrong in that feeling...

Too early to say but you could very well be right.

[offset formation]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/044/247/297.png

Lol.

[exstatic]

Similar, yes. Even down to (pure speculation on my part) them needing to "go back in" and make some corrective procedure. It sounds like that is what they've done with Walker and not a complete repair or removal of the meniscus.

The difference is that Lonnie played an entire season of NCAA ball between surgeries. Westchuck had a second surgery before he returned from the first one.

[pad300]

if his hairstyle doesnt affect his game then your wrong,



Well, it probably does have a minor impact on his game - that looks to be a couple of pounds of hair, and it's lifted up and away from his skull, meaning it will impact his balance put a little bit more effort on his neck muscles, but I really doubt it's a big deal. As a haircut, I think it looks dumb-ass, but that's his personal business, and none of mine.

[pad300]

Don't see that knee lasting a long time in good playing shape sorry to say and I hope I am wrong in that feeling...

I always worry about recurring knee and ankle injuries (on the same joint) - no medical training/opinion here - but very often they are a bad sign for player durability...

[runningnurse71]

I’m a nurse. An incision doesn’t have to be covered for weeks. I’m sure the Spurs doctor gave him instructions. Duh!!

[emanueldavidginobili]

I can’t wait until this kid is healthy and hopefully stays healthy. I think he can make an immediate impact on this team.

[bklynspursfan]

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[John B]

1064572356113457162
Oh yeah... baby claw:claw

[Spurs fever]

Can he have Marco's minutes?

[r0drig0lac]

1064572356113457162

nb.....gleague = fucked

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I do think Walker will help the team when he gets healthy. You can see he's got a ton of talent. Pop will have to endure his NBA learning curve, but I think he's got more upside than even guys like Murray.

[r0drig0lac]

I do think Walker will help the team when he gets healthy. You can see he's got a ton of talent. Pop will have to endure his NBA learning curve, but I think he's got more upside than even guys like Murray.

and White, and Mills, and Forbes....

[NameLess Scrub]

:pop: "work his way back" for the rest of the season

[NASpurs]

He'll use his time in the G-League in training to get over himself.

[SAGirl]

:pop: "work his way back" for the rest of the season
I am afraid of that...

[Mugen]

Fine - put him in the G-League for a few weeks to work his conditioning back and learn some sets.

But I'm not sure how carrying Jeff Ledbetter's bags in the G-League for an entire season is supposed to help him become a legit NBA player when there's minutes for him now on the main team's garbage roster.

[Pavlov]

It's fun to see ST groupthink develop in the face of contradicting evidence in real time.