Preseason Game #4 Thread: Spurs @ Hawks - 10/10/18 @ 6:30pm CST

[Joseph Kony]

an hour before tip and no thread? smh.

Once again game is not televised so google "reddit nba steams" and you'll find something to watch.

#GSG

:flag::flag::flag::flag:

i'd add some tweets n shit but i'm still at work

[RD2191]

Still at work? :lol you caught Ebola, didn't you?

[Spurs Brazil]

@JMcDonald_SAEN
White, DeRozan, Gay, Cunningham, Gasol for the Spurs tonight, per Pop. Appears L.A. might be getting the night off.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Thank god im going to be able to watch it since the Hawks broadcast their games so it will be on NBA League pass tonight

[gambit1990]

demar should have his best game of the preseason.

[acoelho1]

We’ll see now those clamoring White over Murray whether he can step up in this new role. I hope he succeeds but I think lacks Murray’s toughness & confdence.

[Dex]

Alright, tonight the NEW new era begins!

Let's hope for no newer eras.

[cd98]

We need to just send the Austin Spurs so we avoid any more injuries.

[r0drig0lac]

Gay!!!

[ace3g]

Demar to Gay for corner 3!!!

[spurraider21]

murray looks invisible out there

[ace3g]

Demar to White for 3!!!

[ace3g]

White with a floater in the lane.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Demar is filthy tbh

[r0drig0lac]

future spurs taurean prince looking good

[Namundy]

future spurs taurean prince looking good

Literally thinking the same thing.

[silverblackfan]

Finally a game on league pass. Those crap streams are hard on the eyes.

White starting out with a few buckets and DD is getting to the line, which is nice.

[kjhip1]

Gasol slow as hell on D. Prince looking like mj out there

[silverblackfan]

Prince is really killing it tonight.

[Duncan87]

No links?

[ace3g]

Prince hits again over Gasol.

[r0drig0lac]

Gay...

[ace3g]

Demar fouled by Len going for the floater.

[spurraider21]

pau to gay... that alley oop looked so effortless

[spurraider21]

and then gay again in transition. he looks really good...

[r0drig0lac]

Gasol is so slow

[ace3g]

Gasol high low lob to Gay for dunk!!!

[emanueldavidginobili]

Demar is a VERY underrated playmaker

[spurraider21]

derozan with the great pass but dude couldn't knock it down. then gay gets to the rim again

[ace3g]

Poeltl fighting for Off. reb. forces ball off Hawks.

[silverblackfan]

Gay and Demar already have the Spurs in the bonus at 5 mins.

[spurraider21]

poodle has been very awkward in the paint. missed a bunny then turned it over

[r0drig0lac]

mills and forbes can not play together (or play) ever

[Chinook]

Poe has a LOT of Splitter in him, this time in a bad way. Should have been a dunk, not a stupid push-shot.

[c whata11]

forbes in
two turnovers
spurs give up a 3 and wide open dunk
lmao

[Beartrucci]

Gotta love the uncoordinated white guy line up. Here guys have the basketball we don't need it

[kjhip1]

Beli late on switch to defend 3, mills beat on cut to the rim

[c whata11]

demar is so easy to watch.
his movements are incredibly fluid, not robotic/forced like kawhi.
and I still can't get over how much more athletic rudy is looking so far this season

[r0drig0lac]

spurs 3pt shootout 2018 version

[ace3g]

Beli 2/2 from 3 so far!!!

[kjhip1]

Beli two 3s and a patty 3

[Chinook]

Well then. I guess the Spurs can shoot threes after all.

[kjhip1]

Spurs get some real good picks set for their 3s

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1050173820823318529

[kjhip1]

30-26 spurs

[emanueldavidginobili]

Poeltl seems useless

[Chinook]

I like Spellman. I don't know that he'll be better than Poeltl, but with a guy like that available at the end of the first, I don't know that I consider Jakob that great of a get.

[ace3g]

Spurs up 36-32 after 1

Spurs

Starters
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Cunningham (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3974) SF
7
0-1
0-1
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
+2
0


R. Gay (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3005) SF
7
3-3
1-1
2-3
0
2
2
0
0
0
0
0
+2
9


P. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/996) C
6
0-0
0-0
0-0
0
1
1
2
0
0
0
0
+0
0


D. White (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3078576) PG
6
2-3
1-1
0-0
0
1
1
0
0
0
1
1
+0
5


D. DeRozan (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3978) SG
7
2-2
0-0
3-5
0
0
0
3
0
0
1
0
+2
7


Bench
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426) SF
1
0-0
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
1
-5
0


J. Poeltl (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3134908) C
2
0-2
0-0
0-0
0
1
1
1
0
0
1
0
-3
0


P. Mills (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004) PG
2
1-2
1-1
0-0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
1
-3
3


M. Belinelli (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3190) SG
1
2-2
2-2
0-0
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
1
-5
6


B. Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526) SG
1
1-1
1-1
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
-5
3


C. Metu (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3914283) PF
0
0-0
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
+0
0


D. Eubanks (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3914285) PF
Has not entered game


L. Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983) PF
Has not entered game


O. White (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2528473) PF
Has not entered game


J. Huestis (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2531364) F
Has not entered game


Q. Pondexter (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4253) SF
Has not entered game


D. Murray (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497) PG
Has not entered game


L. Walker IV (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4277890) SG
Has not entered game


N. Johnson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2580589) SG
Has not entered game


TEAM

11-16
6-7
5-8
0
6
6
7
0
0
6
4

33




68.8%
85.7%
62.5%

[kjhip1]

36-32 end of 1st Spurs up

[LakerHater]

7 3s!

[acoelho1]

Giving up 32 points to the Hawks. We are in trouble without Murray.

[SAGirl]

Spurs shooting 85% from 3, up by only 4 pts...

[kjhip1]

Spurs D looked better towards end of the 1st, guys hitting 3s...gotta clean up TOs

[Chinook]

Giving up 32 points to the Hawks. We are in trouble without Murray.

FTLOG, the Hawks' starting back court didn't score a point in the first. Murray would not have prevented Prince from eating Gay alive.

[gambit1990]

poeltl was definitely underwhelming.

[LakerHater]

nice back door

[Chinook]

Great pass by Pau for the White layup.

[silverblackfan]

Well the defense has not been good, but it is preseason. Lots of 3s. No LMA?

[SAGirl]

White has looked good.

[Chinook]

I really liked Bembry coming out of the draft, but he look awful today.

[silverblackfan]

White was fouled on that drive. Home cooking.

[LakerHater]

If u gettin blocked by Lin, u fuckin SUCK!

[kjhip1]

Pop got in his ass for not hustling back on D

[SAGirl]

Just as I said that he got blocked but he still has had a gg so far.

[Beartrucci]

If u gettin blocked by Lin, u fuckin SUCK!

good Lord that was sad

[Chinook]

Bad optics, but I liked what White and Cunningham are doing.

[kjhip1]

Wow nice cut and layup by forbes

[Chinook]

OH SON! That was a great shot by Forbes. Would not have thrown that if I were Gasol.

[spurs10]

OH SON! That was a great shot by Forbes. Would not have thrown that if I were Gasol.Where can we watch? Went to reddit and the streams don't seem to work.

[SAGirl]

Is Bertans going to be out of the rotation at this rate?

[Chinook]

Where can we watch? Went to reddit and the streams don't seem to work.

http://watchkobe.info/nba5.php

[emanueldavidginobili]

Metu needs to see the floor more I get it it’s preseason but in today’s NBA Old Gasol and Poeltl isn’t going to cut it. That block metu had on Prince not a single player on the spurs teams could do that.

[Chinook]

Is Bertans going to be out of the rotation at this rate?

Not with Poeltl playing the way he is.

[Chinook]

Metu needs to see the floor more I get it it’s preseason but in today’s NBA Old Gasol and Poeltl isn’t going to cut it. That block metu had on Prince not a single player on the spurs teams could do that.

Bertans blocked Winslow in almost the exact same way last week. Also, Gasol's been pretty damned good tonight.

[Cardinal]

Surprised that Bertans is not seeing much burn, though I like what Cunningham is doing out there

[spurs10]

http://watchkobe.info/nba5.php Thanks!!

[ace3g]

Spurs up 64-62 at the half:

Spurs

Starters
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Cunningham (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3974) SF
16
2-5
1-3
0-0
0
3
3
1
0
1
1
0
+3
5


R. Gay (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3005) SF
15
4-5
2-3
2-3
0
2
2
2
0
0
1
0
+0
12


P. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/996) C
15
3-4
0-1
0-0
0
3
3
7
0
0
1
0
+3
6


D. White (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3078576) PG
14
4-7
1-2
0-0
0
1
1
1
0
1
1
1
+0
9


D. DeRozan (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3978) SG
15
2-3
0-1
4-6
0
1
1
4
0
0
1
0
+2
8


Bench
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426) SF
4
0-0
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
1
-1
0


J. Poeltl (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3134908) C
9
0-2
0-0
0-0
0
2
2
1
0
0
2
0
-1
0


P. Mills (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004) PG
10
2-3
1-1
0-0
0
0
0
1
0
0
1
1
+2
5


M. Belinelli (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3190) SG
9
3-5
2-3
2-2
0
1
1
1
0
0
1
2
+0
10


B. Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526) SG
8
3-3
2-2
1-1
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
2
+2
9


C. Metu (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3914283) PF
4
0-1
0-0
0-0
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
1
+0
0


D. Eubanks (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3914285) PF
Has not entered game


L. Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983) PF
Has not entered game


O. White (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2528473) PF
Has not entered game


J. Huestis (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2531364) F
Has not entered game


Q. Pondexter (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4253) SF
Has not entered game


D. Murray (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497) PG
Has not entered game


L. Walker IV (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4277890) SG
Has not entered game


N. Johnson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2580589) SG
Has not entered game


TEAM

23-38
9-16
9-12
0
15
15
18
0
2
10
8

64




59.5%
56.3%
75.0%

[SpursDynasty85]

It is weird Metu and Cunningham is playing over Bertans. People on here overreacting to that Lin block. Lin can do that on a lot of players. If it becomes a regular things. Then we can worry.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Bertans blocked Winslow in almost the exact same way last week.
Tbh I honestly forgot about Bertans he’s done that multiple times too. dude needs to be on court more also it’s kind of disrespectful at this point playing with this guys emotions lol

[acoelho1]

FTLOG, the Hawks' starting back court didn't score a point in the first. Murray would not have prevented Prince from eating Gay alive.

Good defense is not 1on1. You discount Murray as a help defender so yes, he could have help against Prince.

[silverblackfan]

I thought Poertl had good hands? He can not grab the ball to save his life out there.
White had a pretty good first half. DDR causes trouble and lots of respect from the defense. Hawks got into the penalty early again so maybe the Spurs can get some guys in foul trouble early.
Forbes is doing pretty well on both offense and defense. He caused at least one turn over, but still not long enough to be a good defender.

[JeffDuncan]

All the starters scored. I no longer miss Danny Green.

[Chinook]

White's looked competent. This is a guard's game tonight, so his scoring was expected. I don't like that he only has the one assist. Pau and DeRozan have been doing the job, though. The passing in general has been very good outside of a couple of rough patches. 18 dimes on 23 makes is much better than they've been doing recently. That's the effect of them not having Aldridge on the court. Gay and DeRozan have a ton more room to operate inside the paint. That's not a reason to get rid of Aldridge, before DAF tries to bump his thread. But that shows why LMA shooting more threes this season is a big deal. He needs to get out of the way when he doesn't have the ball, especially if Poeltl starts.

I like Cunningham, as I said. He isn't great at anything, but the team has a lot of obvious weaknesses, so at any given time on the floor, DC might be one of the team's best defenders, rebounders or shooters. I definitely think Dante is a four in today's league, but he's versatile, even if he's not all that great. I like Metu playing the four today. He hasn't had much of a chance to make plays on offense, but he's come out with effort and done some heady things. Poeltl just seems like an inefficient, low-IQ Splitter. Yes, he has better athleticism, but he lacks all kinds of polish. I'm not trying to cut bait or anything -- better players than him has needed a full year to get into the system -- but folks thinking he's better than Pau are off their rockers or just hate Gasol too much to be objective.

Bryndolen, Patty and Marco have been lighting it up from three, and they've been making plays for each other. That's what a good bench will do. Forbes' defense has been more inspired this year, though I'm not sure how that will hold up as the team faces real competition. As of now, I see more bad than good, though the front court they play with will determine their success. Bertans and Poeltl make the most sense on paper, but if Gasol is a long-term bench player, it's going to be interesting. I think Cun can hold his own if he gets a chance with that unit, though he's going to have to be the defensive ace of that group. Might be asking too much of him.

[Chinook]

Good defense is not 1on1. You discount Murray as a help defender so yes, he could have help against Prince.

Nah, you're just setting up for a year-long shtick of moaning about Murray. I've never discounted him as a help defender. I took major issue with the idea that Murray was a lock-down guy. Regardless, my point is that the back court played good defense. The issue was the front court, namely them missing Aldridge's size and Gay not keeping up with his man. Murray would not have been blocking everyone's shots every game, just like Kawhi didn't when the Spurs gave up 40-point quarters in 2013.

[Chinook]

It is weird Metu and Cunningham is playing over Bertans. People on here overreacting to that Lin block. Lin can do that on a lot of players. If it becomes a regular things. Then we can worry.

Cunningham makes sense as a starter. He's stockier, so he should be better on starting bigs. Bertans should be playing with the bench right now. Not a fan of that not happening.

[RD2191]

Green killing it tonight.

[r0drig0lac]

wow

[212094ever]

Fuck Gasol

[Chinook]

wow

Wow indeed.

[RD2191]

Spurms :lol

[r0drig0lac]

Fuck Gasol

he's an ex-player right now, even with a few moments of offensive brilliance, defensively he's just a body out there being exploited at every pick and roll, it's painful to watch

[LakerHater]

https://images2.imgbox.com/bf/c7/HTxnM3GY_o.gif

[SpursDynasty85]

White is a bit slow footed to be a good pg defender. Looks a bit floppy out there. He needs to get low and stay focused. This unit especially once Aldridge gets back is huge but is slow.

[Seventyniner]

I just tuned in, who's the former Spur doing the commentary?

[SpursDynasty85]

Cunningham makes sense as a starter. He's stockier, so he should be better on starting bigs. Bertans should be playing with the bench right now. Not a fan of that not happening.

Idk. So we are going to throw Mills, Belli, and David in the 2nd unit? I think we will need more physicality especially for the defensive end. Lineup wise. Davis with Gay and Gasol and DeRozan made sense. I agree moving forward Bertans will come off the bench but it will be interesting to see how the line up shakes out. They may need a quicker gaurd in their to gaurd shift pgs. White might not cut it.

Best lineup might be:

Aldridge, Gay, Bertans, DeRozan, Mills/White/Forbes.

[SAGirl]

Davis 3!

[hoopdreams11]

our defense and rebounding is terrible tonight

[Chinook]

They had to bench Poe. He's been garbage tonight.

[SAGirl]

our defense and rebounding is terrible tonight
They will improve a with Lamarcus but this is not your former Spurs.

[acoelho1]

Nah, you're just setting up for a year-long shtick of moaning about Murray.

It’s better than your continued bias towards Murray. Oh, he makes all defense...chinook..I still think he’s overrated defensively... Spurs considerably better when he’s on the court defensively...Chinook...I still think he’s overrated defensively. Spurs worse defensive outing in the preason...chinook...I still think he’s overrated defensively.

[r0drig0lac]

our defense and rebounding is terrible tonight

and we are being physically abused (hopefully not a norm)

[212094ever]

That austrian dude is not a good rebounder

[silverblackfan]

I just tuned in, who's the former Spur doing the commentary?
Dominique Wilkins (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominique_Wilkins)

[ace3g]

Spurs down 92-100 after 3

Spurs

Starters
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Cunningham (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3974) SF
22
2-7
1-4
0-0
0
3
3
1
0
0
1
0
-6
5


R. Gay (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3005) SF
23
5-8
2-4
4-5
2
2
4
3
0
0
1
1
-6
16


P. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/996) C
21
5-6
0-1
2-2
0
4
4
7
1
0
1
2
-6
12


D. White (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3078576) PG
21
4-9
1-3
2-2
0
3
3
1
1
2
1
2
-6
11


D. DeRozan (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3978) SG
25
3-9
0-2
7-9
1
1
2
5
1
0
1
1
-8
13


Bench
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426) SF
9
1-3
1-3
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
1
-2
3


J. Poeltl (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3134908) C
13
0-2
0-0
0-0
0
2
2
1
0
0
2
1
-4
0


P. Mills (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004) PG
15
4-5
1-1
0-0
0
0
0
3
0
0
1
1
-2
9


M. Belinelli (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3190) SG
14
3-5
2-3
2-2
0
1
1
1
0
0
1
2
-4
10


B. Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526) SG
10
4-4
2-2
1-1
0
1
1
0
0
0
1
2
+2
11


C. Metu (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3914283) PF
6
1-2
0-0
0-0
1
2
3
0
0
0
0
1
+2
2


D. Eubanks (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3914285) PF
Has not entered game


L. Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983) PF
Has not entered game


O. White (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2528473) PF
Has not entered game


J. Huestis (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2531364) F
Has not entered game


Q. Pondexter (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4253) SF
Has not entered game


D. Murray (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497) PG
Has not entered game


L. Walker IV (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4277890) SG
Has not entered game


N. Johnson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2580589) SG
Has not entered game


TEAM

32-60
10-23
18-21
4
19
23
22
3
2
11
14

92




52.5%
43.5%
85.7%

[SAGirl]

and we are being physically abused (hopefully not a norm)
I expect it to be a norm. The rebounding marvel that is Murray got injured for the season. They will be better with LMA though but outside of him crickets.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Poeltl looks like a clumsy terrible player who can’t jump can’t catch can’t shoot

[Seventyniner]

Dominique Wilkins (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominique_Wilkins)


Makes sense. Thanks.

He told the story about Pop announcing to the team that he had fired Bob Hill and took over as coach. 'Nique said that everyone on the bus started laughing and then the bus left, the players then thought "I guess he was actually serious."

'Nique gave Pop a taste of what it's like to coach a future HoF player wearing #21.

I just thought, Pop has had a future HoF player on his roster every year of his career: 'Nique, then Duncan, and now Pau is the only lock on the team. How many other coaches have had a run like that? I don't remember enough of Jerry Sloan's career pre and post Stockton/Malone.

[spurs10]

We held them to 38...which means if we can hold them to 152 we are right back in this!!

[spurs10]

Bryn looked good on that drive.

[silverblackfan]

The bench is not much on defense, but have pretty good offensive ceiling. Lots of 3s and not afraid to shoot, especially Belli

[Seventyniner]

Looks like the old continuation rules are back. That Prince and-1 would not have counted last year, he took 2 steps after the whistle.

[KDKSpurs24]

This team is not physical enough.

[Chinook]

It’s better than your continued bias towards Murray. Oh, he makes all defense...chinook..I still think he’s overrated defensively... Spurs considerably better when he’s on the court defensively...Chinook...I still think he’s overrated defensively. Spurs worse defensive outing in the preason...chinook...I still think he’s overrated defensively.

Bruh, we don't need a new white knight poster looking for whatever critical about their guy to get upset by. We just got rid of all the players that had those fans, and you insist on trying to restart it with a fresh batch. My arguments last year were well-supported, to the point that you started off your previous post by conceding them. So now you just feel like complaining. Over and over and over again. It's a long season, and you're going to have 90 games without Murray playing. It's going to get old as shit.

[Joseph Kony]

Still at work? :lol you caught Ebola, didn't you?

:depressed







:lol

[r0drig0lac]

This team is not physical enough.

yes, just Aldridge and Gay have some kind of physicality, and this will kill our team on several nights, saying that we need wings would be more of the same, but the team without Murray looking "soft"

[SAGirl]

We held them to 38...which means if we can hold them to 152 we are right back in this!!
Woot at least we are shooting 3s and can score woot!!
:spin

[Chinook]

Should be two shots because of the Harden rule. But the refs seem to have moved on from the changes last year and are now going to let that slide to focus on "impeding movement".

[acoelho1]

Bruh, we don't need a new white knight poster looking for whatever critical about their guy to get upset by. We just got rid of all the players that had those fans, and you insist on trying to restart it with a fresh batch. My arguments last year were well-supported, to the point that you started off your previous post by conceding them. So now you just feel like complaining. Over and over and over again. It's a long season, and you're going to have 90 games without Murray playing. It's going to get old as shit.

I ain’t your bruh and the Murray injury just happened so don’t get your panties in a bunch. I’ll look forward to your year long on Walker’s nut sack. Now that will get old.

[spurs10]

Great pass!

[spurs10]

It ain’t over yet!

[DAF86]

When does the season start? :sleep

[ace3g]

Spurs cut it to 4 -- 112 - 116

[SAGirl]

Bryn is on fire. Wonder if he can sustain that. Guessing negative.

[Joseph Kony]

damn that was an ugly demar 3 :lol that possession overall sucked, but white saved it. Derozan looks like the best playmaker the spurs have had in quite some time, he definitely should be running the offense

[BillMc]

Just remembered the game. What's the story so far?

[r0drig0lac]

Rudy in mvp mode

[emanueldavidginobili]

Forbes is getting BURNT by young

[Chinook]

I ain’t your bruh and the Murray injury just happened so don’t get your panties in a bunch. I’ll look forward to your year long on Walker’s nut sack. Now that will get old.

That's why I'm nipping this shit in the bud now, because you'll be at it all year otherwise. I love how now you're making this anti-Walker just to pump Murray up. You know whatever anti-Murray bias you see in me isn't because I'm pro-Walker, since we've been going back and forth since last year. I'm telling you as a friend, bro: Don't make this typical player-fan nonsense. You like Murray. That's fine. I like Murray too. We disagree about how good he is, but that's fine. Don't start making it a situation where you start sniping at other players, especially not a young guy who ideally is DeJounte's running mate for the next seven to 10 years.

[LakerHater]

https://images2.imgbox.com/bf/c7/HTxnM3GY_o.gif
https://images2.imgbox.com/7f/24/9mVZOIm2_o.gif

[r0drig0lac]

trae...

[TimDunkem]

Even shooting 9/10, Bryn is still hurting the team more than he helps it. What a garbage player.

[Chinook]

trae...

Have to admit, that was awesome.

[ace3g]

Trae with the Curry 3....

[LakerHater]

The fuck Trae flexin on somebody!? :lol

[r0drig0lac]

Even shooting 9/10, Bryn is still hurting the team more than he helps it. What a garbage player.

which is why in the current nba, it is better to have physical wings (even if they do not shoot 38% 3pt), than players who can be exploited defensively (even if they can shoot 40% 3pt)

[LakerHater]

Bryn sagged waaay off!

[ace3g]

Forbes gets an open look to tie it up all you can ask for .

[ace3g]

Spurs lose 127-130

Spurs

Starters
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Cunningham (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3974) SF
22
2-7
1-4
0-0
0
3
3
1
0
0
1
0
-6
5


R. Gay (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3005) SF
31
10-15
3-6
5-6
2
2
4
5
1
0
1
2
+1
28


P. Gasol (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/996) C
30
6-8
0-1
2-2
2
4
6
10
1
0
1
3
+1
14


D. White (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3078576) PG
29
6-11
1-3
2-2
1
5
6
3
1
2
1
2
+3
15


D. DeRozan (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3978) SG
32
4-12
0-3
7-9
1
1
2
6
1
0
1
1
-1
15


Bench
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Bertans (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6426) SF
13
1-4
1-4
0-0
0
1
1
0
0
0
1
1
-4
3


J. Poeltl (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3134908) C
17
1-4
0-0
0-0
0
6
6
3
0
0
2
3
-6
2


P. Mills (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004) PG
19
4-6
1-1
0-0
0
0
0
4
0
0
1
1
-6
9


M. Belinelli (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3190) SG
19
4-7
2-4
2-2
0
1
1
1
0
0
1
2
-6
12


B. Forbes (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2994526) SG
23
9-11
3-5
1-2
0
2
2
0
2
0
1
4
+7
22


C. Metu (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3914283) PF
6
1-2
0-0
0-0
1
2
3
0
0
0
0
1
+2
2


D. Eubanks (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3914285) PF
Has not entered game


L. Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983) PF
Has not entered game


O. White (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2528473) PF
Has not entered game


J. Huestis (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2531364) F
Has not entered game


Q. Pondexter (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4253) SF
Has not entered game


D. Murray (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497) PG
Has not entered game


L. Walker IV (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4277890) SG
Has not entered game


N. Johnson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2580589) SG
Has not entered game


TEAM

48-87
12-31
19-23
7
27
34
33
6
2
11
20

127




55.8%
40.0%
82.6%

[Leetonidas]

Bryn sagged waaay off!

Who really thought he was going to shoot it and make it from that fucking far? :lol

Hawks deserve that. Big balls shot by Trae young

[LakerHater]

AAAALmost redemption for Bryn

[Cardinal]

You just tip your hat to that shot and move on

[TimDunkem]

AAAALmost redemption for Bryn

But, as usual, he came up short.

[Beartrucci]

We would be the first team Trae Young shits on :lol so Spurs

[tim_duncan_fan]

I know we didn't have LaMarcus but JEEEEEEEEZUS we suck crucified dicks on defense.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Trae Young dazzling early per usual :lol

[LakerHater]

Who really thought he was going to shoot it and make it from that fucking far? :lol

Hawks deserve that. Big balls shot by Trae youngMaaan, musta nota watched film... sayin hes bettr than curry!

[KDKSpurs24]

You just tip your hat to that shot and move on
Definitely.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Gonna have to get used to these shooting nights from DeMar

[TimDunkem]

Maaan, musta nota watched film... sayin hes bettr than curry!

I mean, he does take those all the time. No excuses. Bryn blew it.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Does anyone have the stats on Bryn covering Trae young he got absolutely shitted on

[JeffDuncan]

30 points, evenly divided, from the starting guards. If there's a way to add some defense to that it could look promising.

[SpursDynasty85]

Forbes will be a lot better than last year.

[LakerHater]

I mean, he does take those all the time. No excuses. Bryn blew it.
Yeah, live & learn

[r0drig0lac]

30 points, evenly divided, from the starting guards. If there's a way to add some defense to that it could look promising.

maybe playing with 6 players on the court every moment

[Chinook]

30 points, evenly divided, from the starting guards. If there's a way to add some defense to that it could look promising.

Needs to be closer to 33 or 35 for my liking White has to average at least 12 points for me to feel like he's doing his job, and DeRozan should be able to keep up his previous scoring with White there to handle the ball some.

[Seventyniner]

You just tip your hat to that shot and move on

This.

Young's shot was stupid for two reasons: wayyy behind the arc, and he left the Spurs time for a shot of their own. Two more dribbles and he gets a closer shot at the horn.

[Fusternino]

Glad Pop started Dante. Forbes still getting way too many minutes but I think that's the way it will be from here on out.

[ReadandReactOffense]

Two more dribbles and he gets a closer shot at the horn.
Two more dribbles gets him closer to a defender's outstretched palm as well. He was in his spot, the defender wasn't. He took it wide-open. Game.

[Pavlov]

Glad Pop started Dante. Forbes still getting way too many minutes but I think that's the way it will be from here on out.SpursTalk, where a guy who scores 22 points in 23 minutes on 82% shooting off the bench is getting way too many minutes.

[acoelho1]

That's why I'm nipping this shit in the bud now, because you'll be at it all year otherwise. I love how now you're making this anti-Walker just to pump Murray up. You know whatever anti-Murray bias you see in me isn't because I'm pro-Walker, since we've been going back and forth since last year. I'm telling you as a friend, bro: Don't make this typical player-fan nonsense. You like Murray. That's fine. I like Murray too. We disagree about how good he is, but that's fine. Don't start making it a situation where you start sniping at other players, especially not a young guy who ideally is DeJounte's running mate for the next seven to 10 years.

First off, I like Walker and think he will be a solid rotation player for a long time. Secondly, we are still in preason and nobody anointed you to nip anything in the bud. I still say Murray will be a star and his defense will be sorely missed this year despite your opinion on it. Also, you should take your own advice on the sniping b/c Murray will be the PG for a long time.

[Mr. Body]

Big success. Didn't lose another player for a third game in a row.

[bklynspursfan]

We would be the first team Trae Young shits on :lol so Spurs

22 points on 18 shots is shitting on us?

[Beartrucci]

22 points on 18 shots is shitting on us?

Nah I'm just messing around. It's that shot he hit that's funny to me, but I'm sure he'll hit quite a few of those bs shots throughout his rookie year.

[spurs10]

Great game in the end. Rudy Gay is big for us.

[bklynspursfan]

Nah I'm just messing around. It's that shot he hit that's funny to me, but I'm sure he'll hit quite a few of those bs shots throughout his rookie year.

Yea definitely. Whatever it's pre season lol. He was shooting 25% on 3s coming into tonight

[bklynspursfan]

SpursTalk, where a guy who scores 22 points in 23 minutes on 82% shooting off the bench is getting way too many minutes.

Yea. People are never satisfied here

[LakerHater]

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/demar-derozan-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-handles-the-ball-against-the-picture-id1051853590?k=6&m=1051853590&s=612x612&w=0&h=0rBeVkvEYsJDeAJGzCLV5pRFZFbRx3KsFzQb1DutQbY=

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/demar-derozan-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-shoots-the-ball-against-the-picture-id1051853588?k=6&m=1051853588&s=612x612&w=0&h=qNtHb6cnWawSGQV4or6x9pl9m97vQ601oYINmYZ4M_Y=

[Chinook]

First off, I like Walker and think he will be a solid rotation player for a long time. Secondly, we are still in preason and nobody anointed you to nip anything in the bud. I still say Murray will be a star and his defense will be sorely missed this year despite your opinion on it. Also, you should take your own advice on the sniping b/c Murray will be the PG for a long time.

"My own advice" had nothing to do with liking Walker or not. There's nothing wrong with being critical of players. I'm not going to stop just because it offends you. That's not the same thing as trying to make it a Murray vs Walker thing. They aren't in competition. I never suggested they were. You did. I'm glad you're backing off a bit. You were starting to go down a bad road for the Church of Murray by making it seem like he had to be the best rather than just good or bad in his own right.

[acoelho1]

I wasnt offended and it wasn’t me jumping on anyone who puts Murray in a good light but whatever. I’m bored with this conversation.

[acoelho1]

On other note, if Brin had half the confidence of Curry, he would be a dangerous player in this league.

[r0drig0lac]

On other note, if Brin had half the confidence of Curry, he would be a dangerous player in this league.

Did you mean skills or shooting?

[Kobe'sAchilles]

On other note, if Brin had half the confidence of Curry, he would be a dangerous player in this league.

Unfortunately he has half the skill set

[Kobe'sAchilles]

But this game was meaningless and the people who I wanted to play well did for the most part. LOL at Trae Young and the Atlanta bench acting as if this game meant something. All that dancing and celebration for a preseason game... It's gonna be a long season for the Hawks

[acoelho1]

Did you mean skills or shooting?

Obviously shooting. He just doesn’t have moxie to bring his game to the next level.

[playbonner15]

On other note, if Brin had half the confidence of Curry, he would be a dangerous player in this league.
lol no

[LakerHater]

On other note, if Brin had half the confidence of Curry, he would be a dangerous player in this league.
http://images3.imagebam.com/35/b2/33/6b5810501180628.gif

[SnakeBoy]

SpursTalk, where a guy who scores 22 points in 23 minutes on 82% shooting off the bench is getting way too many minutes.

:lol

[DAF86]

Should have traded Kawhi for Ingram, tbh.

[kuato]

Derosan sucks, Forbes is still trash. I miss Manu.

[BackHome]

Going to miss Manu till the day I die........but life goes on looking forward to the young guns getting back healthy and all three having great careers.......White, Murray, Walker. Spurs..................

[Kawhitstorm]

Should have traded Kawhi for Ingram, tbh.


:pop:DeMare will be just fine in my "system" as a corner 3 specialist

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zvE4Q48whI

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/CharlieOCharles/status/1050241748109156352


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKYp6KXWmX0&feature=youtu.be&a

[Dhbsr555]

Bro your already saying Derozan sucks he hasn’t even played s real game yet

[ceperez]

No need to meltdown. A preseason game. Spurs vets were too lazy to play defense.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Our defense is going to suffer quite a bit this season after losing Kawhitter, Danny, and now Dejounte along with another long, LW 4, who should turn out to be a good defensive player. We should be fairly good in the paint but, the wings/guards & SF is where we are weak. Maybe Pop, can work some magic but, it hasn't worked on Patty or Forbes. We shall see.

[ceperez]

Our defense is going to suffer quite a bit this season after losing Kawhitter, Danny, and now Dejounte along with another long, LW 4, who should turn out to be a good defensive player. We should be fairly good in the paint but, the wings/guards & SF is where we are weak. Maybe Pop, can work some magic but, it hasn't worked on Patty or Forbes. We shall see.

We got LW4 back in 2 months. Also Huestis is a elite wing defender, out for maybe a month. Then maybe you can use Metu as a SF defender.

I kind of expected Cunningham to be that defender, but it seems that he's got feet of lead.

[SAGirl]

Should have traded Kawhi for Ingram, tbh.
I didn’t like Derozan as a building piece and the Spurs got hosed in that trade.
I have accepted it now but didn’t like it. Wait until the paper tiger gets stifled in the playoffs and the choking starts. (If they make the playoffs...)

[ceperez]

I didn’t like Derozan as a building piece and the Spurs got hosed in that trade.
I have accepted it now but didn’t like it. Wait until the paper tiger gets stifled in the playoffs and the choking starts. (If they make the playoffs...)

PATFO had no choice and took the best deal available.

DeRozan has bad shot selection, but he's the only player that can seem to penetrate and dish. Parker and Manu did that for the Spurs, DeRozan may be the only one who could do that now. Actually, White has some skill in that too. DeRozan still needs to figure it out, but he's got some natural talent and just needs a more disciplined approach.

[buujness]

We got LW4 back in 2 months. Also Huestis is a elite wing defender, out for maybe a month. Then maybe you can use Metu as a SF defender.

I kind of expected Cunningham to be that defender, but it seems that he's got feet of lead.
I wouldn't really expect that, as he is a raw rookie that still isn't sure when to hedge or when to play ice as a big man.

That being said, if I were him, I would be trying like hell to get some reps with Gay and DeRozan after practice. Strong wing defense and rebounding is his clearest path to playing time on the roster right now, especially considering his slight build.

[ceperez]

I wouldn't really expect that, as he is a raw rookie that still isn't sure when to hedge or when to play ice as a big man.

That being said, if I were him, I would be trying like hell to get some reps with Gay and DeRozan after practice. Strong wing defense and rebounding is his clearest path to playing time on the roster right now, especially considering his slight build.

That's the only real niche he can fill in the NBA. I doubt he can add extra weight on that small frame of his.

[ace3g]

Main reason I was disappointed that we didn't get OG because of how much perimeter defense we lost in Kawhi/Green.

[Chinook]

Main reason I was disappointed that we didn't get OG because of how much perimeter defense we lost in Kawhi/Green.

You and everyone else, Ace. It just seems like with Green, Leonard, OG and Siakam that Toronto has an embarrassment of riches there while SA has nothing. Poeltl just feels like odd compensation. Toronto should have preferred to keep him. SA should have preferred someone else instead. The team already had a young big waiting to come over and had just drafted a second one they were high on. They NEEDED a defensive forward like they needed air.

[SpursDynasty85]

You and everyone else, Ace. It just seems like with Green, Leonard, OG and Siakam that Toronto has an embarrassment of riches there while SA has nothing. Poeltl just feels like odd compensation. Toronto should have preferred to keep him. SA should have preferred someone else instead. The team already had a young big waiting to come over and had just drafted a second one they were high on. They NEEDED a defensive forward like they needed air.

You can say that more so now that Murray and Walker are out. But what happens to our defense if we dont have Poeltl and lose Aldridge to injury? Our defense would've fallen off a cliff. Poeltl might have not shown it yet but he would be a good replacement for Aldridge.

Also consider albeit weird fittings our perimeter depth is better than our interior one especially when you consider Gasol and Aldridge's age. They were more prone to missing a few games this year.

Toronto also had Ibaka and Valaciunas. Poeltl was expandable for them but was still one of their best bench players. Almost split minutes with Valaciunas.

[Chinook]

You can say that more so now that Murray and Walker are out. But what happens to our defense if we dont have Poeltl and lose Aldridge to injury? Our defense would've fallen off a cliff. Poeltl might have not shown it yet but he would be a good replacement for Aldridge.

Yes, assuming that all of Murray, Walker and Aldridge are out, the team would struggle defensively. That's the case whether they have Poeltl or any other player from Toronto. Just too many missing bodies. I'd rather have OG and Milutinov than just Poe though. Hoping seriously Jakob makes me eat those words.

[SouthTexasRancher]

We got LW4 back in 2 months. Also Huestis is a elite wing defender, out for maybe a month. Then maybe you can use Metu as a SF defender.

I kind of expected Cunningham to be that defender, but it seems that he's got feet of lead.

I'm a little surprised concerning Dante. Hopefully he can get that lead out. Really a shame about Dejounte. He was looking good. And if Lonnie can learn from the sideline while he heals he may get some good minutes from Pop at certain points in the season. While DJ and LW 4 are out I hope Derrick cam really show that he can be a consistent contributor.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zvE4Q48whI

I dunno if they're calling it anymore; but that two-hand dribble by DeRozan at the start is a double dribble.

[Spurtacular]

Two seconds left and the PG is off the guy with the ball? Spurs deserve to lose; just glad it's only preseason.

[BackHome]

Yes, assuming that all of Murray, Walker and Aldridge are out, the team would struggle defensively. That's the case whether they have Poeltl or any other player from Toronto. Just too many missing bodies. I'd rather have OG and Milutinov than just Poe though. Hoping seriously Jakob makes me eat those words.

I don’t know Pop has never been good to young bigs they take minimum of one year to figure out defense amd
offense positions. But I too would have loved OG and bring over Nikola.

[Chinook]

I dunno if they're calling it anymore; but that two-hand dribble by DeRozan at the start is a double dribble.

It does look like a carry. Actually on the play where Walker got hurt, it looked to have carried as well.

[sasaint]

I dunno if they're calling it anymore; but that two-hand dribble by DeRozan at the start is a double dribble.

Look again. The ball only hit the floor once. No way that can be a double dribble.

[Chinook]

Look again. The ball only hit the floor once. No way that can be a double dribble.

I'm assuming he means a carry. Once that second hand goes on the ball, you're not supposed to be able to dribble. He takes two dribbles on that play: one immediately when he catches it, and the other after it looks like he's already started his gather move.

[SpursDynasty85]

Derozans first move is not a carry. He did one quick dribble and picked it up while to the basket. The Walker injury cross over was definitely a double dribble. Hit the ball with his right then left before the ball hits the ground. Looked pretty though.

[Chinook]

Derozans first move is not a carry. He did one quick dribble and picked it up while to the basket. The Walker injury cross over was definitely a double dribble. Hit the ball with his right then left before the ball hits the ground. Looked pretty though.

He did two dribbles. Look at the replay of the play (rather than the first playthrough during live game action). It's one thing to think it was still legal, but he literally dribbled twice.

[SpursDynasty85]

He did two dribbles. Look at the replay of the play (rather than the first playthrough during live game action). It's one thing to think it was still legal, but he literally dribbled twice.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zvE4Q48whI



This first play? I see one pass one dribble then a lay up. It's not a double because it was his first dribble.

[Chinook]

This first play? I see one pass one dribble then a lay up. It's not a double because it was his first dribble.

I think I was wrong here. The "first dribble" looks like him catching the pass. From the replay, the angle makes it look like a dribble DeRozan took.

[SpursDynasty85]

I think I was wrong here. The "first dribble" looks like him catching the pass. From the replay, the angle makes it look like a dribble DeRozan took.

Ah. Yea. It was a bang bang play for sure. I'm sure Popovich loved it. It was very impressive imo.

[sasaint]

I'm assuming he means a carry. Once that second hand goes on the ball, you're not supposed to be able to dribble. He takes two dribbles on that play: one immediately when he catches it, and the other after it looks like he's already started his gather move.

He caught the ball with two hands, put it on the floor once, caught it with both hands, took a step and went up...

[Spurtacular]

Look again. The ball only hit the floor once. No way that can be a double dribble.

Bouncing the ball with two hands (once) is a violation; again, I don't think that's been called for a long time in the NBA though.

[sasaint]

Bouncing the ball with two hands (once) is a violation; again, I don't think that's been called for a long time in the NBA though.

No. Bouncing it TWICE with two hands is. If what you say were true, you could never catch a pass with two hands and then put the ball on the deck. There has never been a rule that you had to catch the ball with one hand in order to preserve your right to dribble - or on the back end of this play any rule that prohibits picking up your dribble with two hands and going to the hole. Or a rule that you had to dribble the ball more than one bounce.

[Spurtacular]

No. Bouncing it TWICE with two hands is. If what you say were true, you could never catch a pass with two hands and then put the ball on the deck. There has never been a rule that you had to catch the ball with one hand in order to preserve your right to dribble - or on the back end of this play any rule that prohibits picking up your dribble with two hands and going to the hole. Or a rule that you had to dribble the ball more than one bounce.

Yea, you're right now that I think about it. Pretty sure.