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Red Pill Regimen
10-17-2018, 04:02 PM
By 'proving' that she is maybe .09% Native American. She really got back at Trump! Obviously, she needed to check that Native American box on the job application.

:lol This is a Democratic frontrunner for the president. Second coming of Dukakis coming.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbpW8hNHRs8

SnakeBoy
10-17-2018, 04:09 PM
What happened?

Will Hunting
10-17-2018, 04:12 PM
There’s no way she’s the candidate after he she acted in 2016.

That DNA test was a stupid political move on so many levels.

Red Pill Regimen
10-17-2018, 11:33 PM
There’s no way she’s the candidate after he she acted in 2016.

That DNA test was a stupid political move on so many levels.

Other than eighty-year-old Biden, she's the only one with a conceivable shot at winning. Nobody's gonna care about Kamala Harris or Corey Booker doing amateur hour.

ElNono
10-18-2018, 11:31 AM
Other than eighty-year-old Biden, she's the only one with a conceivable shot at winning. Nobody's gonna care about Kamala Harris or Corey Booker doing amateur hour.

That's what was said about Obama and Trump. You just can't underestimate people's desire for amateurs.

Spurtacular
10-18-2018, 05:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skvCtT15d2I

Chris
10-18-2018, 05:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skvCtT15d2I

The dumb black guy looked really uncomfortable and got owned pretty hard.

DarrinS
10-18-2018, 07:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21ixwIaN7qw

Red Pill Regimen
10-19-2018, 08:28 PM
That's what was said about Obama and Trump. You just can't underestimate people's desire for amateurs.

Which is why I didn't when I said she was one of two candidates with at least a theoretical shot at beating Trump. But in truth, Pocahontas would be in Mondale territory if she got the nomination.

LGBTQIAPK & G-D
10-19-2018, 08:49 PM
Warren was blackballed by Native Americans. That's not her fault.

Spurtacular
10-19-2018, 08:53 PM
:lmao Warren tried to get ahead of this for 2020 and only shot herself in the gut instead.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaRUZxJGRYg

pgardn
10-19-2018, 09:33 PM
Other than eighty-year-old Biden, she's the only one with a conceivable shot at winning. Nobody's gonna care about Kamala Harris or Corey Booker doing amateur hour.

We elected Donald Fn Trump.

Its wide open.

Spurtacular
10-19-2018, 09:48 PM
We elected Donald Fn Trump.

Its wide open.

:lol Still in denial.

DMC
10-19-2018, 11:34 PM
We elected Donald Fn Trump.

Its wide open.

It's really not.

Spurtacular
10-20-2018, 12:15 AM
It's really not.

Leftists don't think 'It's the economy, stupid' is a thing anymore.

ducks
10-20-2018, 12:22 AM
Warren was blackballed by Native Americans. That's not her fault.

?
She claimed to be on she is not very much

DMC
10-20-2018, 12:42 AM
Leftists don't think 'It's the economy, stupid' is a thing anymore.

This notion that suddenly anyone can become president of the United States is rooted in wishful thinking mostly. If the dems go into 2020 with that in mind, they are going to lose again. It's a mistake now, however, to run old party names. People want a fresher face. They are fairly certain they won't get anything they want out of it either way, but many cannot bet on someone who smells like Washington DC. DC has become the enemy and a strong talking point for both parties. They do it to themselves when they both preach about how shitty it is inside the beltway, yet that's basically where they're from. It's like the NFC and AFC advertising about how shitty the NFL is, and promising something different this year.

Spurtacular
10-20-2018, 01:07 AM
This notion that suddenly anyone can become president of the United States is rooted in wishful thinking mostly. If the dems go into 2020 with that in mind, they are going to lose again. It's a mistake now, however, to run old party names. People want a fresher face. They are fairly certain they won't get anything they want out of it either way, but many cannot bet on someone who smells like Washington DC. DC has become the enemy and a strong talking point for both parties. They do it to themselves when they both preach about how shitty it is inside the beltway, yet that's basically where they're from. It's like the NFC and AFC advertising about how shitty the NFL is, and promising something different this year.

The media did a great job of drilling the idea that Trump was a clumsy shyster incapable of handling the economy. But when I go back and look at the debates I realize he is saying a lot of truths that the bought and paid for politicians would not say and that he had a greater understanding of how it works in the second place. As long as the economy is good, nobody has a chance to beat Trump. Americans don't knowingly vote against their pocketbook.

FrostKing
10-20-2018, 02:33 AM
We elected Donald Fn Trump.

Its wide open.
Trump had 2 aspects going for him that will be difficult to duplicate

- He was a very liked public figure for 2 decades
- He created his reputation in business

Pop culture + business. 2 aspects Americans are bias to.

Othyus Lalanne
10-20-2018, 06:22 AM
This notion that suddenly anyone can become president of the United States is rooted in wishful thinking mostly. If the dems go into 2020 with that in mind, they are going to lose again. It's a mistake now, however, to run old party names. People want a fresher face. They are fairly certain they won't get anything they want out of it either way, but many cannot bet on someone who smells like Washington DC. DC has become the enemy and a strong talking point for both parties. They do it to themselves when they both preach about how shitty it is inside the beltway, yet that's basically where they're from. It's like the NFC and AFC advertising about how shitty the NFL is, and promising something different this year.
Tnhey are so into today's indentity bs the new leadership would also be a disaster.

Spurtacular
10-20-2018, 12:48 PM
Tnhey are so into today's indentity bs the new leadership would also be a disaster.

Fail

LGBTQIAPK & G-D
10-20-2018, 07:06 PM
?
She claimed to be on she is not very much

Her mom told her all this! It's not her fault!

Othyus Lalanne
10-21-2018, 02:17 AM
Fail

That is where the left is headed.

ElNono
10-21-2018, 05:52 AM
Leftists don't think 'It's the economy, stupid' is a thing anymore.

You don't have to be a leftist to know he inherited a pretty fucking great economy (I mean, compared to what Barry inherited, he received a freaking Cadillac). He should get credit for not ruining it. Yet anyways.


This notion that suddenly anyone can become president of the United States is rooted in wishful thinking mostly. If the dems go into 2020 with that in mind, they are going to lose again. It's a mistake now, however, to run old party names. People want a fresher face. They are fairly certain they won't get anything they want out of it either way, but many cannot bet on someone who smells like Washington DC. DC has become the enemy and a strong talking point for both parties. They do it to themselves when they both preach about how shitty it is inside the beltway, yet that's basically where they're from. It's like the NFC and AFC advertising about how shitty the NFL is, and promising something different this year.

This is exactly where I was disagreeing with Spurt... Kamala Harris or Corey Booker are not 'anybody', they're relatively seasoned politicians at the local/state level, have some Washington experience but are also relatively fresh faces in national politics.

I would argue they're actually much better positioned than Biden or Pocahontas, tbh... (not sure about Bernie, he has a pretty solid grass root, but I don't think the party will really throw all the machinery to help him).

The Dems have a big problem in figuring out who they're going align themselves with, which I think if it comes organically, as opposed to what happened last time, it will give them some credibility. On the other hand, they also have a huge plus that the candidate won't be Shillary, an almost automatic improvement. On the GOP side, midterms matter beyond control of Congress, because I think if they do a terrible election, it might push some moderate guys like Kasich to come forward and challenge Trump. On the other hand, turnout for midterms have always been generally a strength for the GOP recently. The big confusion here could be thinking presidential elections are anything like it. At some point they're going to have to face the fact that if you continue to lose the popular vote, the margin of error and your odds of winning irrevocably diminish. Neither the GOP or the Dems have enough with their base to win presidential elections, and I think Trump's message post-election has been strictly aimed at the base. Granted, he's the ultimate bullshitter, so pivoting into a some centrist position overnight wouldn't be surprising in the least.

LaSíSí
10-21-2018, 12:56 PM
You don't have to be a leftist to know he inherited a pretty fucking great economy (I mean, compared to what Barry inherited, he received a freaking Cadillac). He should get credit for not ruining it. Yet anyways.


Anemic, great. Same difference.

ElNono
10-21-2018, 10:51 PM
Anemic, great. Same difference.

What was anemic about it? Let's compare some actual numbers. Heck, easily the biggest Trump's campaign economic claim was bringing back jobs from overseas, something that did not happen and won't be happening either.

LaSíSí
10-22-2018, 08:39 AM
What was anemic about it? Let's compare some actual numbers. Heck, easily the biggest Trump's campaign economic claim was bringing back jobs from overseas, something that did not happen and won't be happening either.

This is more like stump rhetoric than a case. Do you have any actual numbers you want to point to to make your case?

ElNono
10-22-2018, 12:45 PM
Sure, let's review:
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/

- 11.6 million non-farm jobs
- Received unemployment rate at 7.8% (rising to 10% in the first few months during the recession), left office at 4.8%
- Inflation adjusted income of Americans went up by 5.3%
- Corporation profits had record-highs.
- Stocks up an average of 166% in value

I mean, I'm not even a Barry fan, but the economic context that he received, versus what Don received, it's just not even comparable. We're talking getting handed the biggest recession since the great depression vs a booming economy by all measures.

Was it a stellar, spot-less economy? Certainly not, could be improved. But I don't think 'great' is a misnomer, and certainly far from 'anemic', which is what Barry himself received.

tbh, if we're going to talk economy, Dubya also received a booming economy, did his tax cut thing, and then let the banks completely obliterate it. So like I said, Dennison should get credit for not fucking it up, at least just yet.

So let's see your numbers that it was anemic. It was your claim, you get to support it.