The #Metu Movement [Archive] - SpursTalk.com Forums

TheGreatYacht

10-20-2018, 11:35 PM

Aldridge
Bertans
Gay
DeRozan
Briante Weber

Gasol
#Metu
Troy Williams
Belinelli
Forbes

Thats about as well as you can do with what's available out there. I hate the idea of Bertans starting but starters need spacing with Weber being a "Meh 3 & great D" player

Dhbsr555

10-20-2018, 11:36 PM

You will be waiting a long time for him to get in then

JeffDuncan

10-20-2018, 11:39 PM

I'd play him at point guard. Now.

Dejounte

10-20-2018, 11:40 PM

I'd rather see him start over Poe right now, especially given how few minutes Jakob plays anyway. Chim can run and block shots just fine, and at least he has some type of outside game.

The Spurs probably still want to justify pursuing Poetl so he will keep playing... Probably as long as they've tried to push Mills as the "veteran leader" and backup PG who plays way too much.

TheGreatYacht

10-20-2018, 11:45 PM

The Spurs probably still want to justify pursuing Poetl so he will keep playing... Probably as long as they've tried to push Mills as the "veteran leader" and backup PG who plays way too much.
This 1000x

There's no group of individuals as stubborn as PATFO. If Mills was still earning 3M/yr he wouldn't be getting starter minutes and get to close every game. If the Boris Diaw trade was fair, they wouldn't be giving Olivier Hanlan every opportunity possible to make the roster. If Poeltl wasn't a god damn trade filler piece, he wouldn't be starting while providing nothing to the team.

cd021

10-20-2018, 11:46 PM

The #Metu Movement is a potentially fantastic nickname tbh.

I did like what I saw tbh.

objective

10-21-2018, 12:01 AM

I'm sure he'll get a chance after another 70 games of Cunningham et al being trash

james evans

10-21-2018, 01:10 AM

I'm sure he'll get a chance after another 70 games of Cunningham et al being trash
Basically. I seriously don’t know how Cunningham is still in the league. Here is a guy that does absolutely nothing well. He doesn’t have 1 skill

SAGirl

10-21-2018, 01:14 AM

Sign me in.

Spurs da champs

10-21-2018, 01:26 AM

MaNu4Tres

10-21-2018, 01:39 AM

I'd rather see him start over Poe right now, especially given how few minutes Jakob plays anyway. Chim can run and block shots just fine, and at least he has some type of outside game.

Poeltl is a wallflower. Hard to notice him out there. If Im SA, Im calling teams and offering Poeltl, Mills for any big and bad expiring.

BackHome

10-21-2018, 01:53 AM

I like Metu he checks all the boxes:
smart
athletic
hard worker
humble
plays hard

tesseractive

10-21-2018, 04:02 AM

Poeltl is a wallflower. Hard to notice him out there. If Im SA, Im calling teams and offering Poeltl, Mills for any big and bad expiring.
Dude's played a whopping 21 minutes in 2 games in silver and black and it's already time to cut bait? :rolleyes

r0drig0lac

10-21-2018, 05:51 AM

I like Metu he checks all the boxes:
smart
athletic
hard worker
humble
plays hard

I like him because he's athletic and plays hard, that's what we need.

objective

10-21-2018, 02:08 PM

Poeltl is a wallflower. Hard to notice him out there. If Im SA, Im calling teams and offering Poeltl, Mills for any big and bad expiring.

It would probably take a couple of first rounders added from the Spurs to get anyone to not hang up immediately. Sad.

Chinook

10-21-2018, 02:12 PM

I like him because he's athletic and plays hard, that's what we need.

You need smart too, though. Some big-ass dunce wouldn't be any better than an unathletic try-hard. Metu seems like he could fit into a "Beautiful Game" offense, and that's still the team's best chance of winning going forward.

SpursDynasty85

10-21-2018, 02:21 PM

You need smart too, though. Some big-ass dunce wouldn't be any better than an unathletic try-hard. Metu seems like he could fit into a "Beautiful Game" offense, and that's still the team's best chance of winning going forward.

I've listened to him in interviews. He seems like a pretty put together individual. He reminds me of a guy who could play a Robert Horry type role. Hopefully that comes to fruition with a bit more dribbling skill and passing skills.

Chinook

10-21-2018, 02:38 PM

It would probably take a couple of first rounders added from the Spurs to get anyone to not hang up immediately. Sad.

For a pure expiring? Yeah, Mills would take a least a first and a second. But something like Gay and Mills for Parsons? I think they could get away with that straight up. Memphis saves a bit of money and backs way away from the tax next year. The Spurs pay more money overall but get out of Patty's deal earlier. And they get a small-forward, finally. Considering that next season will hopefully be one where the team is trying to break in a new SF, Parsons could make sense as vet competition.

Chinook

10-21-2018, 02:45 PM

I've listened to him in interviews. He seems like a pretty put together individual. He reminds me of a guy who could play a Robert Horry type role. Hopefully that comes to fruition with a bit more dribbling skill and passing skills.

I agree Metu seems smart. He and Bamba both impressed me. Moreover, Metu seems to have a decent BBIQ for a forward. My comment was not about Metu really; it was about the idea that athleticism was more important than IQ. I don't think that's the case. I think they're equally important, and I'd rather have a really smart player with serviceable athleticism than an uber-athlete with only passable intelligence. The Spurs were an elite defense for so many years because of how smart they were, not because they had great athletes. Pretending that Leonard and Green didn't have high defensive IQs is an insult to their impact.

ceperez

10-21-2018, 03:37 PM

I agree Metu seems smart. He and Bamba both impressed me. Moreover, Metu seems to have a decent BBIQ for a forward. My comment was not about Metu really; it was about the idea that athleticism was more important than IQ. I don't think that's the case. I think they're equally important, and I'd rather have a really smart player with serviceable athleticism than an uber-athlete with only passable intelligence. The Spurs were an elite defense for so many years because of how smart they were, not because they had great athletes. Pretending that Leonard and Green didn't have high defensive IQs is an insult to their impact.

I agree. The NBA game is so sophisticated now that just being athletic isn't going to keep you in the court. If you are consistently making errors by simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time, then expect to be pulled.

That said, players still need a level of talent to not be a liability on a one-on-one situation.

BackHome

10-21-2018, 08:26 PM

The game is also a lot faster and the game is going towards everyone being 6'8 who can handle the ball and shoot from the outside.

r0drig0lac

10-21-2018, 08:44 PM

The game is also a lot faster and the game is going towards everyone being 6'8 who can handle the ball and shoot from the outside.
yep...
except Pop that will not let your dwarves go away, unless you have Curry shooting, Cp3 all around game or the Trae Young's playmaking potential, you need to have size to not be fully exploited in defense, no shooter needs to adjust your shot against the dwarf combination of SA.

Seventyniner

10-21-2018, 08:48 PM

The game is also a lot faster and the game is going towards everyone being 6'8 who can handle the ball and shoot from the outside.

Didn't Don Nelson say that 30 years ago?

DJR210

10-21-2018, 11:36 PM

I'd rather see him start over Poe right now, especially given how few minutes Jakob plays anyway. Chim can run and block shots just fine, and at least he has some type of outside game.

Nothing I've seen from Poeltl thus far has justified him as an upgrade over Lord Joffrey

Ice009

10-22-2018, 12:16 AM

Nothing I've seen from Poeltl thus far has justified him as an upgrade over Lord Joffrey

Yeah, the guy sucks so far. Man, I would have loved OG Anunoby instead :(.

Pretty happy with DeMar so far, though. The only thing I don't like from DeMar is his form on his three point shot (I think that is the reason he's an inconsistent shooter from long range). I wonder if Chip thinks it's a good idea to try and change his form, because with that form of his, I really don't see him being a consistent three point shooter.

DJR210

10-22-2018, 02:32 AM

Yeah, the guy sucks so far. Man, I would have loved OG Anunoby instead :(.

Pretty happy with DeMar so far, though. The only thing I don't like from DeMar is his form on his three point shot (I think that is the reason he's an inconsistent shooter from long range). I wonder if Chip thinks it's a good idea to try and change his form, because with that form of his, I really don't see him being a consistent three point shooter.

I never really paid attention to his game, but I'm a fan of it. Simple and smooth.

Ed Helicopter Jones

10-22-2018, 07:58 PM

Can he fill in at the 1? He can probably run the point better than what we have now.

Russ

10-22-2018, 08:36 PM

Nothing I've seen from Poeltl thus far has justified him as an upgrade over Lord Joffrey

Pop has many strengths, but bringing along young bigs isn't one.

I do like Metu if they can find him a position.

DAF86

10-22-2018, 09:16 PM

I don't see any reason why Cunningham should be playing over this guy, tbh.

TimDunkem

10-22-2018, 09:51 PM

I don't see any reason why Cunningham should be playing over this guy, tbh.

Military pecking order.

DAF86

10-22-2018, 09:53 PM

Military pecking order.

Cunningham looking good vs Lakers so far though.

TimDunkem

10-22-2018, 09:56 PM

Cunningham looking good vs Lakers so far though.

Metu will stay glued to the bench.

Pavlov

10-22-2018, 10:03 PM

Yeah, put him on LeBron. Couldn't hurt.

RC_Drunkford

10-23-2018, 07:00 AM

Jsmoothexpress

10-24-2018, 08:34 PM

I been thinking if he can't be a small ball 4 or even a defensive 3 due to his mobility, athleticism and weight. He's to skinny for a big man. He can protect the rim and got a jump shot. I think it would be worth a try
We’ll never know unless they put him on the court. Against he Pacers it seems to be the perfect opportunity for him. We can’t get anything going offensively or defensively. I would love to see Eubanks and Metu right now.

BackHome

10-26-2018, 05:14 PM

Eubanks outplayed Poodle last game which is shocking since I don’t even think he was drafted.

I like Cunningham but we need to put Metu on the face track so he needs to play and I don’t even care if he cost us a game or two. As long as he gets consistent playing time and improves I’ll be a happy camper

DAF86

11-10-2018, 09:44 PM

Loving this guy <3

DAF86

11-10-2018, 09:45 PM

Work on that corner 3 and start at the 4.

Cardinal

11-10-2018, 10:41 PM

He got absolutely manhandled on the defensive boards tonight

Mr. Body

11-10-2018, 10:57 PM

Not ready. At all.

Mirrornick

11-10-2018, 10:57 PM

#meToo
#rapeculture
#Allmenrapes
#men are rapists

faggots

SpursDynasty85

11-10-2018, 10:58 PM

Fine with him getting plugged in. He can be a spark off the bench.

Dejounte

11-10-2018, 10:58 PM

#meToo
#rapeculture
#Allmenrapes
#men are rapists

faggots

What?

Dejounte

11-10-2018, 10:59 PM

I saw great things from Metu tonight for the first half of his minutes. Then he started making rookie mistakes. I think he's going to be great for us. Showed more promise than Poetl.

Mirrornick

11-11-2018, 09:25 AM

What?

Reference to the #metoo movement

duncan2k5

11-11-2018, 01:38 PM

play him...what do we have to lose? we aint winning shit this year...accelerate his growth

Ed Helicopter Jones

11-11-2018, 01:55 PM

play him...what do we have to lose? we aint winning shit this year...accelerate his growth

Play him in Austin.

duncan2k5

11-11-2018, 02:08 PM

Play him in Austin.

Why? What's the downside of playing him against better talent?

offset formation

11-11-2018, 02:41 PM

Reference to the #metoo movement

You are the new auntfocker. Pink this guy.

Mirrornick

11-11-2018, 08:22 PM

You are the new auntfocker. Pink this guy.

pink you tbh

John B

11-11-2018, 08:57 PM

A lot of times he’s just lost out there. He needs to spend a lot of time at Austin to learn the system, reassert himself. He needs to feel he can dominate at SF position, timing help defense. Man, CP3 and Harden were just going through with him. He’s pretty athletic and long. He should be able to time those block shots.

tbdog

11-11-2018, 09:18 PM

Hopefully the last game shows why he should not be playing much let alone starting as some posters seem to believe.

Pavlov

11-11-2018, 09:26 PM

Hopefully the last game shows why he should not be playing much let alone starting as some posters seem to believe.No, that means he needs even more NBA welfare time so he might be better someday.

BackHome

11-12-2018, 01:16 AM

Also have to remember he broke his wrist in camp so he is still catching up.

r0drig0lac

11-12-2018, 04:47 AM

he seemed afraid of making mistakes out there, and yes, he was completely lost in the rotations

tbdog

11-12-2018, 05:03 AM

No, that means he needs even more NBA welfare time so he might be better someday.

No. He had 4 TO in 12 mins. He is not ready now and won't be for some time. He is forced to play due to injuries. Another game like that and Spurs would be forced to pick up a big.

John B

11-12-2018, 11:08 AM

No, that means he needs even more NBA welfare time so he might be better someday.
Consistent playing time at Austin would help more than NBA garbage time. Metu is very raw at what I’ve seen. But of course Spurs coaches know better so probably just had a bad rookie game under pressure

sasaint

11-12-2018, 11:34 AM

No. He had 4 TO in 12 mins. He is not ready now and won't be for some time. He is forced to play due to injuries. Another game like that and Spurs would be forced to pick up a big.

+1 Metu needs all the court time he can get in Austin.

spurs1990

11-12-2018, 12:14 PM

Just saw this thread. One of you locals putting this hashtag on a sign during a game would be legendary

Mugen

11-12-2018, 06:52 PM

Did Pop really say that he thinks Metu can be a wing/3 in the league? holy crap if true :lol

Leetonidas

11-12-2018, 06:54 PM

I like the kid but he really needs time in Austin. He was absurdly bad when trying to play actual rotation minutes

Dex

11-12-2018, 06:57 PM

Did Pop really say that he thinks Metu can be a wing/3 in the league? holy crap if true :lol

He doesn't have the size to be a legit 5. I think best case scenario...he packs on some muscle and can be a quick 4. With the way the league is going, there aren't many guys who are looking to truly punish guys in the post day-in and day-out.

However, he will need to develop a jump shot if he wants to really succeed in that capacity, as he isn't ever going to be a back-to-the-basket player unless he hits another serious growth spurt.

He's got quick feet and is super athletic...but he is so raw that it almost hurts to watch. All of his positive contributions come on pure hustle. If he can refine his game and at least add a solid 15-18 footer, he has a chance...but he ain't no 3.

Mugen

11-12-2018, 07:19 PM

He doesn't have the size to be a legit 5. I think best case scenario...he packs on some muscle and can be a quick 4. With the way the league is going, there aren't many guys who are looking to truly punish guys in the post day-in and day-out.

However, he will need to develop a jump shot if he wants to really succeed in that capacity, as he isn't ever going to be a back-to-the-basket player unless he hits another serious growth spurt.

He's got quick feet and is super athletic...but he is so raw that it almost hurts to watch. All of his positive contributions come on pure hustle. If he can refine his game and at least add a solid 15-18 footer, he has a chance...but he ain't no 3.

His ceiling is a homeless man's Ibaka which isn't even that bad.

He's obviously super raw but he has not wing skills whatsoever and no amount of player development by the Spurs is going to fix that (see: Green, Danny never learning how to dribble while he was with the Spurs)

I don't really believe that Pop sees him as a future wing because I don't think Pop has lost his senses that much tbh. He adds 10-15lbs muscle and he can be serviceable as a small ball 5 in a few years.

Pavlov

11-20-2018, 03:55 PM

Playing tonight for the Toros.

https://austin.gleague.nba.com/news/san-antonio-assigns-chimezie-metu-to-austin-spurs-2/

BackHome

11-20-2018, 09:58 PM

Metu and Moore both had pretty good game tonight.

John B

11-21-2018, 06:21 AM

He’s pretty athletic and can chase block shots which Spurs are missing among other things.

ceperez

11-21-2018, 06:29 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR7glGsePK4

John B

11-21-2018, 06:31 AM

Metu and Moore both had pretty good game tonight.
He needs this a lot tbh. Once Pau is back, I think Poeltl also needs some time in Austin for positioning. Admittedly I was ver disappointed with him earlier, but his hassles the last few games, eagerness to work hard to better himself, convinced me that he has a lot of potential. Poeltl is deceptively effective with his length. He needs hook shots, sink 10-15 feet shots, catch ally opps, this guy could be a solid center with a long career tbh

John B

11-21-2018, 06:36 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR7glGsePK4
:lmao:lmao:lmao Metu is the best example of the disparity of NBA and G-League game. He looked so composed on these plays, but a day ago he looked like a lost puppy :lmao

ceperez

11-21-2018, 07:20 AM

:lmao:lmao:lmao Metu is the best example of the disparity of NBA and G-League game. He looked so composed on these plays, but a day ago he looked like a lost puppy :lmao

No better way to become comfortable than by actually playing. Metu needs to spend time in Austin to get himself ready for games.

exstatic

11-21-2018, 08:01 AM

:lmao:lmao:lmao Metu is the best example of the disparity of NBA and G-League game. He looked so composed on these plays, but a day ago he looked like a lost puppy :lmao

No, that would have been Kyle Anderson. He looked like a basketball god in Austin.

Chinook

11-21-2018, 09:26 AM

No, that would have been Kyle Anderson. He looked like a basketball god in Austin.

Not really. Anderson had a number of good games in SA, and his offensive analytics were pretty good (was a top iso scorer in the league for a couple years). The blocks and steals transferred too. A guy like Ledbetter being competent or Blossomgame dominating are better examples, because they just didn't have the ability to get those shots off in the NBA.

I agree with John B here that I instantly thought of the disparity when I saw how many different things Chim was able to do. A lot of that is the talent level of the defense, but a non-negligible amount of it is that Metu went into this knowing he was the gameplan rather than just been tossed in for clean-up duty. When the coaching is designed for you to get shots in your spots, and you're told to be aggressive, it can make a big difference.

JeffDuncan

11-21-2018, 10:55 AM

It probably also helped Metu that he didn't have Patty pointing him to the wrong side of the court.

John B

11-21-2018, 11:24 AM

Not really. Anderson had a number of good games in SA, and his offensive analytics were pretty good (was a top iso scorer in the league for a couple years). The blocks and steals transferred too. A guy like Ledbetter being competent or Blossomgame dominating are better examples, because they just didn't have the ability to get those shots off in the NBA.

I agree with John B (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42719) here that I instantly thought of the disparity when I saw how many different things Chim was able to do. A lot of that is the talent level of the defense, but a non-negligible amount of it is that Metu went into this knowing he was the gameplan rather than just been tossed in for clean-up duty. When the coaching is designed for you to get shots in your spots, and you're told to be aggressive, it can make a big difference.
We need not only his offense, but more importantly his length also on chasing block shots. I would love for him to be a lockdown defender