Game Thread: Pacers at Spurs - Wed (10/24) - 7:30PM CST (3:30AM Riga Time)

[Ron Swanson]

Sign the ball kid.

[NASpurs]

Man that was nice from DDR.

[Immortal Spur]

we've played like ass all game but somehow just need one run to get back into it

[K...]

Sign the ball kid.

nah, too athletic for pop

[TheGreatYacht]

You cocksuckers caused this comparing DD to Kawhalpha

[bklynspursfan]

He's heating up

[r0drig0lac]

Demar vs pacers

[RD2191]

Too bad we can't get a fukin stop.

[BillMc]

You been hacked? :lol

No. Got up at 3:20 AM for this?

[K...]

we may get it close but you guys who you got another 15m of mills/forbes/gasol in this game

[james evans]

we just can't stop anyone. We just gotta hope they miss. shit

[MVPCues]

Lead less than 10, I see time to put Pau in.

[TheGreatYacht]

Fatty's dad CoJo is in

[Immortal Spur]

Big Boobies!

[bklynspursfan]

Hoping LMA gets it going in the 4th

[james evans]

i was wrong about cunningham. He's actually a decent defender and rebounder

[Chomag]

So you think it's pretty safe to say that DD is our first option? Seems to be better then Lamarsha at that roll

[Amuseddaysleeper]

You cocksuckers caused this comparing DD to Kawhalpha

Kawhi was amazing tonight. And to think there are people on here who think DD is a better offensive player than Kawhi :lmao

[SAGirl]

It’s still a winnable game... fwiw

[james evans]

HOw is Gasol 7'1 and can't block shit at the rim?

[TheGreatYacht]

They literally have to double whoever Fatty is guarding :lmao

PATFO :lmao

[sasaint]

DJ is good bruh but he ain't fixing this shit. This team is bad.

Not by himself, but we are missing more guys than Dijon. The decimated backcourt has a ripple effect. Pop is playing LMA and DeMar way more than he would if he had a healthy squad. They will be exhausted by Christmas. Then we will be in deeper trouble.

[Immortal Spur]

it's so hard to complete a run when every time you put the bench in they lead extends back.. it's so frustrating. Pau should be gone...

[NASpurs]

Big Boobies!

The good kind or the bad kind? Fuck I missed it either way.

[james evans]

Kawhi was amazing tonight. And to think there are people on here who think DD is a better offensive player than Kawhi :lmao
they don't believe that. It's just bullshit talk to make themselves feel better. That's it. Had we gotten JR Smith for Kawhi they would claim that Jr is a better player too. It's called "bitterness"

[Leetonidas]

Spurs really need to get rid of Pau. In today's league there is no business running a two big lineup. If Davis and cousins couldn't get it done, why the fuck does Pop think putting one of our white stiffs next to LMA is going to work

[r0drig0lac]

they don't believe that. It's just bullshit talk to make themselves feel better. That's it. Had we gotten JR Smith for Kawhi they would claim that Jr is a better player too. It's called "bitterness"

x1000

[LakerHater]

San Antonio's bench being outscored 30-14.

[DAF86]

I wonder if at some moment of this season Pop tries to implement a zone defense.

[SAGirl]

Lead less than 10, I see time to put Pau in.
:pop:

[RC_Drunkford]

They literally have to double whoever Fatty is guarding :lmao

PATFO :lmao

that's why Sean is saying it looks like Indiana has one more player on the court since the game started

[Chomag]

Ya I think pop keeps killing the runs with his useless lineups

[RD2191]

Pau

[Immortal Spur]

The good kind or the bad kind? Fuck I missed it either way.
hehe.. Double D(demar)... big boobies...

[Chomag]

Lol Paul letting a guard steal his rebound...I need a drink lok

[Immortal Spur]

uh oh... pau is mad

[RD2191]

Why are we watching this? Do we just enjoy the pain?

[NASpurs]

Like I knew the offense was going to regress but holy fuck, at least improve the defense. :lol

[Indianman]

Where was the career ending injury to Pau when we needed it last season?

[Immortal Spur]

traffic cones

[RD2191]

Ho lee fuk we suk

[NASpurs]

hehe.. Double D(demar)... big boobies...

:lol

[r0drig0lac]

rape

[DAF86]

Damn, I'm sure glad we put Cunningham in there for defensive purposes. :rolleyes

[NASpurs]

:lmao :lmao Sa-bone-us

[RD2191]

:lmao blow it up for fucks sake

[Indianman]

I hate Belinelli when he isn't making those shots..

[Leetonidas]

Literally not even trying to contest the shot

[Uriel]

:lol

[Indianman]

Spoke too soon, I see..

[r0drig0lac]

awaiting the analysis of how Pau did well protecting the rim

[Immortal Spur]

was at 9 when pau came in... omg

[NASpurs]

Ho lee fuk we suk

Didn't know you spoke Chinese, Rob. A man of many talents.

[james evans]

this is bullshit. This is the team that pop wanted though

[Robz4000]

Yeah, no chance in hell this team sniffs 35 wins. Hell, 25 might be too much. On the plus side they might get a Top 5 pick after all.

[K...]

rape

but that would imply they wanted to play defense....like i would argue they fully consented.

[Chomag]

Pacers must feel like this is just a shoot around

[RD2191]

Man, PATFO really fucked up by trading Kawhi.

[SAGirl]

Team misses Manu tbh. Belli and Patty ain’t the same.

[DAF86]

Do you think Pop would get an aneurism trying to figure out a way to stagger Aldridges and DeRozan's minutes?

[SpursDynasty85]

At least play Poeltl and Metu. This sucks. Hate seeing that bench unit out there.

[james evans]

was at 9 when pau came in... omg
I don't know why Pop insists on playing him. I mean, did Gasol threaten his life or something?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

they don't believe that. It's just bullshit talk to make themselves feel better. That's it. Had we gotten JR Smith for Kawhi they would claim that Jr is a better player too. It's called "bitterness"

:toast

[RD2191]

Didn't know you spoke Chinese, Rob. A man of many talents.

Tanks

[SAGirl]

Spurs really need to get rid of Pau. In today's league there is no business running a two big lineup. If Davis and cousins couldn't get it done, why the fuck does Pop think putting one of our white stiffs next to LMA is going to work
:pop::jekka

[RC_Drunkford]

y'all damn sure know Pop will blame this on the injuries and not on his roster construction

[skin27]

This is loss is on pop

[BillMc]

Please asteroid, please....

[Immortal Spur]

where the fook is ginobili when you need him

[Harry Callahan]

Gasol brings nothing to the table. This is an abortion tonight. No effort on defense. Almost unwatchable.

[NASpurs]

At least we might see Metu in this game. :tu

[objective]

Pau's defense on that last Sabonis three pointer is pure Pop-RC Spurs in 2018

Too old to be perform, too lazy to care, no will to fight

[DAF86]

Bertans not getting a single minute after scoring 7 pts in 12 minutes in the first half :lmao

[Cardinal]

At least we'll get to see a little more of Metu in the fourth.

It helps to just accept now that this is a lost season, more or less.

[TheGreatYacht]

Does Fatty Mills play with shoes 3 sizes bigger? Cunt is always falling

[212094ever]

Patty's shitshow continues

[Chinook]

:lol Patty. Seeing him defend is almost precious.

[james evans]

Man, PATFO really fucked up by trading Kawhi.
this started long before Kawhi left. this started with lowballing Simmons and Dedmond. Does anyone seriously feel that Gasol is better than Dedmon(and I know he's injured)

[r0drig0lac]

but that would imply they wanted to play defense....like i would argue they fully consented.

fair

[NASpurs]

:pop: "They made shots and we didn't"

[Degoat]

You know pop said during training camp this team has a clean slate and that if you want playing time prove it to me... are gasol and Mills just God’s during practice or is he full of it!? How does gasols play warrant playing time

[Cardinal]

Lol Mills beat off the dribble by Dougie McBuckets... yikes

[r0drig0lac]

this started long before Kawhi left. this started with lowballing Simmons and Dedmond. Does anyone seriously feel that Gasol is better than Dedmon(and I know he's injured)

[212094ever]

lol DDR is our best player, that says it all... gonna be a rough season

[objective]

Yeah, no chance in hell this team sniffs 35 wins. Hell, 25 might be too much. On the plus side they might get a Top 5 pick after all.

Too bad the Raptors pick will be 29 or 30

[MVPCues]

Mills is like a pin ball bouncing off things.

[Immortal Spur]

yo someone make me a gif of patty stealing and turning it over right away. rofl

[NASpurs]

Bill and Sean blowing the Pacers instead of saying how much the Spurs suck :lol

[Reck]

This is loss is on pop

Lol no.

This loss is on his roster being shitty. Pop has little to work with.

[in2deep]

:lol Gasol -25

Mills -22

Belli -20

[SuperCam]

Patty -22 in 23 minutes, get this flaming faggot off the court smh

[RC_Drunkford]

this started long before Kawhi left. this started with lowballing Simmons and Dedmond. Does anyone seriously feel that Gasol is better than Dedmon(and I know he's injured)

Simmons and Dedmon would do wonders for this defense

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol keeping lma instead of kawhi

building around a pos who loves to take jumpshots instead of pounding it down low....

lol patfo

[DAF86]

Just pull everybody. This is done.

[BillMc]

Rudy only one playin' hard.

[Ron Swanson]

where the fook is ginobili when you need him

Sitting on a beach earning 20 percent.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bertans is just allergic to rebounding holy shit this has to be on purpose

[RD2191]

lol keeping lma instead of kawhi

building around a pos who loves to take jumpshots instead of pounding it down low....

lol patfo

Truth bomb.

[timtonymanu]

I hope the Spurs can keep losing. We need a high lottery pick.

[Robz4000]

Too bad the Raptors pick will be 29 or 30

At least they should get their first round pick instead of it turning into second round picks.

[Leetonidas]

Welp. I'm gonna go play assassin's creed

[Harry Callahan]

The defense is totally unacceptable.

[SpurPadre]

This Spurs D makes D'Antoni's Suns teams look like the '04-'05 Spurs D.

[skin27]

Pop should rest LMA and demar the of the season and tank for the first pick next year!!!

[Cardinal]

Bill and Sean blowing the Pacers instead of saying how much the Spurs suck :lol

It's like listening to the Kings announcers when they played the Spurs in years past.

[TheGreatYacht]

Looking a step slow against THREE white americans :lmao

[SuperCam]

50 mill, 23 minutes, 3 turnovers, 0 points. this sack of rancid dog shit :lol

[iGetbuckets]

Get Patty off the team seriously

[Harry Callahan]

This is a lottery team with the lack of effort/ability on defense. I'm out tonight on this game - a waste of time.

This year is going to be very very frustrating if things don't change on the defensive end..

[Ron Swanson]

LMA 5-16 tonight.

[phxspurfan]

Why tf the starters still in this game

[Chinook]

The defense is totally unacceptable.

That really is the best way to put it.


This is a lottery team with the lack of effort/ability on defense.

That's something I don't think a lot of people here understand. The team isn't bad merely because they have undersized or slow-footed players. They look this bad because they have long stretches where they aren't disciplined or flat out seem to not care. There's no excuse for that. Murray being out and the others leaving the team doesn't mean that everyone else should forget where they're supposed to be and how to box out.

[NASpurs]

It's like listening to the Kings announcers when they played the Spurs in years past.

You can always tell how bad your team is when the announcers constantly blow the other team while the announcers of winning teams get called "homers".

[r0drig0lac]

lol DDR is our best player, that says it all... gonna be a rough season

Derozan needs athletes next to him (as he had in Toronto), he is being asked to carry the load that Kawhi was carrying, except he is not so good. look which dominant Kawhi is looking now that has several athletic wings on his team

[BillMc]

At least they'll be pissed off when the Lakers come to town.

[objective]

Spurs 'corporate knowledge' wasn't about good business, it was just a Ponzi Scheme

Using the production of Kawhi, Green, et to pay off Fatty and Gasol

Kawhi leaving caused the Ponzi Scheme to crumble

Now there's nothing left

[SuperCam]

this team will be somewhere around -20 to -30 in point differential on the season after tonight. that easily projects to a sub .500 team over the course of a season. haven't even played anyone good yet :lol

[RD2191]

Dubs gonna drop 200 on the Spurs tbh

[DAF86]

It was a 9 pt game when fucking Pop benched everybody. With this mediocre team we can't afford self-ruined momentum, tbh.

[SuperCam]

Meanwhile MVParker has 10 points in 17 minutes to spark a 4th qtr comeback :wow

[r0drig0lac]

Why tf the starters still in this game

Pop wanting to give a message, as if this unathletic team had the physical ability to defend at an acceptable level, just as he had Mills defending Durant, or Diaw / West against Adams / Kanter. He knew it would not work but he did anyway

[paperboy77]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Leetonidas (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9573357#post9573357)
Spurs really need to get rid of Pau. In today's league there is no business running a two big lineup. If Davis and cousins couldn't get it done, why the fuck does Pop think putting one of our white stiffs next to LMA is going to work



The god damn truth!

On another note, we really and truly did Kawhi a favor while Toronto fucked DD!

[davi78239]

God we look like shit. Is this what it’s come to??

[Chomag]

With this defence every game will just be like a practice game for every opponent

[Spurs fever]

This sucks

[NASpurs]

25 point lead :lol
this being a 50 win, playoff team :lol

[Uriel]

Cold shooting from our end and hot shooting on theirs. It's just one of those days.

[davi78239]

Poor demar, got traded to this shit. And not to mention, pinche po dunk SA.

[Immortal Spur]

all time offense...

[DAF86]

We are a lot worse than anticipated, tbh. Hopefully PATFO takes notice and humble a bit. They have been doing a piss poor job for quite a bit now.

[objective]

Metu about to come in and convince Pop he's not over himself yet with his energy and being too impactful

[r0drig0lac]

Cold shooting from our end and hot shooting on theirs. It's just one of those days.

haha

[LakerHater]

Time to empty the bench!
Better not lose on Sat!

[iGetbuckets]

-30 for patty lol

[BlackAndWhite]

Spur are too shallow and will run their players to the ground. Maybe they should tank instead.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Poor demar, got traded to this shit. And not to mention, pinche po dunk SA.
He shouldn't be so terrible on D if he wants to complain about anything.


Metu about to come in and convince Pop he's not over himself yet with his energy and being too impactful

Yep.

[Pelicans78]

Wtf going on tonight.

[Immortal Spur]

I can't even blame this on amused... which sucks

[Joseph Kony]

only the spurs could go from scoring 143 points one night to struggling to score 90 in the following game

[SAGirl]

This was funny for a while but it’s getting depressing

[BillMc]

I can't even blame this on amused... which sucks

We can always blame amused, tbh.

[Chomag]

He's about to get yelled at by Pop for that dunk

[Joseph Kony]

mills and gasoft are a fucking anchor around the spurs drowning the team. they take up so much cap and are net negative players for fucks sake. the spurs would be better of with dleague players in their places

[Chinook]

At least Evans is on my fantasy team.

[skin27]

It’s over

[NASpurs]

Offensive stats are going to take a hit while defensive stats are par the course. :lol

[skin27]

Dark ages all over again

[NASpurs]

Hold them below 120? Free tacos for everyone if we do .

[objective]

Forbes stuck playing in garbage time while Fatty gets to rest with the starters

:lol

[Harry Callahan]

The opposing team is putting very little effort into getting clean, wide open shots. It's god awful basketball. I hope that White and Walker can return in November and get some more size on the perimeter to defend. I can't stand watching the crap being displayed right now. This is not a very good group of players.

[r0drig0lac]

Demar played with Powell, Wright, Lowry, Anunoby, Ibaka, Siakam, all good defenders and athletes, now plays with Mills, Forbes, Gasol, Marco, his game will fall with throughout the season, he may actually be the best defender perimeter in the team, even though he is very bad at it

[MVPCues]

Think TIMVP will unleash an F or two in the game grades?

[ceperez]

This team is done... doesn't have the kind of attitude and talent to keep up in this league.

[timtonymanu]

mills and gasoft are a fucking anchor around the spurs drowning the team. they take up so much cap and are net negative players for fucks sake. the spurs would be better of with dleague players in their places

Corporate knowledge. The reality is talent > locker room presence.

[Immortal Spur]

We can always blame amused, tbh.
lol

[BillMc]

Dark ages all over again

"Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead!"

[Harry Callahan]

Going through the motions is not a good look. These guys are looking like the Sacramento Kings of the last ten years. No effort, no savy.

Pau must be benched for Metu and soon. The lack of mobility for Gasol is totaling offsetting the thing he can still do - which is above average passing.

[rastaspur]

Its going to be a rough year.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Corporate knowledge. The reality is talent > locker room presence.

this knowledge u speak of... what is it?

win it pops way or the highway? even if they dont win, they continue to support it??...explains why the vets and favorite sons on the team are turning this team into shit

[Joseph Kony]

Eubanks +6 in 1 minute of play. Give him all of gasoft's minutes

[Amuseddaysleeper]

lol

Why did your original account get banned?

[Chomag]

I would love to see Matu take Paul's spot on the roster. I mean...he couldn't be any worse.

[Joseph Kony]

the sad thing is most spurfans are so rah rah go spurs go vanilla fags that they would never boo this shit in the ATT center even though garbage performances like this deserve it. Pop will never get his coaching has been shit until he hears boos

[Immortal Spur]

Why did your original account get banned?
I still have it. just wanted to change my name.

[SAGirl]

Metu about to come in and convince Pop he's not over himself yet with his energy and being too impactful
:lol
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but really this is depressing

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Was that, that nasally stan kelly on the PA?

[Immortal Spur]

should be fun at the team dinner tonight...

[skin27]

Aldridge sucked in this game

[Cardinal]

At least the Rockets are now 1-3

[SuperCam]

remember when spur won 40 home games in a season? now teams are coming into ATT, bending them over and going in dry

[BillMc]

Spurs beat Wolves. Wolves beat Pacers. Pacers beat Spurs.

Just one of those nights. That said, defense is not NBA ready.

[Chinook]

the sad thing is most spurfans are so rah rah go spurs go vanilla fags that they would never boo this shit in the ATT center even though garbage performances like this deserve it. Pop will never get his coaching has been shit until he hears boos

He's not doing a good job getting folks to buy in this year. Forbes seems to be the only guy 100-percent with it all the time. Everyone else is either bipolar or stuck on terrible.

[Joseph Kony]

He's not doing a good job getting folks to buy in this year. Forbes seems to be the only guy 100-percent with it all the time. Everyone else is either bipolar or stuck on terrible.

i'm sure it's hard, i mean these guys are pros and grown men, they see the roster they are playing with and the players that are getting bullshit loyalty minutes. what is there to buy into when your team is so obviously terribly constructed for the modern NBA. i know the spurs are dealing with a mountain of injuries, but still, wtf was the FO thinking with literally no real SF on the roster in a league dominated by wing players?

[SpurPadre]

He's not doing a good job getting folks to buy in this year. Forbes seems to be the only guy 100-percent with it all the time. Everyone else is either bipolar or stuck on terrible.

Surely you can't be excluding DD and LMA, you know, the only reasons we even have two wins? And what good is Forbes giving 100% when he's not even 50% as good as the opposing PGs he's up against?

[RC_Drunkford]

let's see the positive side of things: this was our 2nd best defensive game of the season:downspin:

[RC_Drunkford]

i'm sure it's hard, i mean these guys are pros and grown men, they see the roster they are playing with and the players that are getting bullshit loyalty minutes. what is there to buy into when your team is so obviously terribly constructed for the modern NBA. i know the spurs are dealing with a mountain of injuries, but still, wtf was the FO thinking with literally no real SF on the roster in a league dominated by wing players?

they thought playing 2 big line-ups will make them successful like every year:lol

[BatManu20]

Pop just seems out of it tbh. Like he knows this team is shit and isn't going to freak out over their suckage anymore. Obv his wife has a lot to do with that too.


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[J_Paco]

remember when spur won 40 home games in a season? now teams are coming into ATT, bending them over and going in dry

Not to make excuses for the terrible effort on display, tonight, but the Pacers are an elite shooting team and the Spurs are without three young, athletic perimeter players. While also attempting to integrate so many new faces to the offensive and defense schemes.

This season will be a lot like last year with a ton of up and down moments. Hopefully, White and Walker can sneak into the rotation, stay healthy and provide the spark this old(er) group needs.

Also, they need to do something with that second two - way contract and dump Pondexter.

I agree that this was an embarrassing loss, though. Team needs better effort on both ends.

[Chinook]

Surely you can't be excluding DD and LMA, you know, the only reasons we even have two wins? And what good is Forbes giving 100% when he's not even 50% as good as the opposing gPGs he's up against?

Forbes won is match-up going away today. Until that last stint with the starters, Bryn carried a positive plus-minus despite playing 22 minutes in a game where the Spurs were losing by 17. People need to get over their hate of the guy. He's NOT the problem. Dude is out there trying to give full-court pressure, getting his hands up and moving his feet. No, he's not a good defender, but a team full of guys who try all the time looks much better than what we just watched. With their offense, they don't have to be great. They just can't let everyone get wide-open looks all the time.

Obviously DeRozan, Aldridge and Gay have all been really good. But they make mental mistakes which hurt the team too. There's no question they are the reasons for the wins, but they aren't "100-percent with it". Maybe that's because they can't afford to give that much energy to following the game plan. But I think it's just mental lapses. Those will have to be cleaned up.

[testies]

This is going to be like 2008-2011 when our defense was middle of the pack and we were fodder

[RC_Drunkford]

Pop just seems out of it tbh. Like he knows this team is shit and isn't going to freak out over their suckage anymore. Obv his wife has a lot to do with that too.


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like I thought, he still thinks his coaching can cover up weak defenders with no tools to defend

[SAGirl]

This shit is very depressing.

Think Derozan is going to be depressed?

[JeffDuncan]

Dubs gonna drop 200 on the Spurs tbh

I'll take the over on that.

[SpurPadre]

This is going to be like 2008-2011 when our defense was middle of the pack and we were fodder

Except back then we at least had 3 HOF'ers.

[SAGirl]

Pop just seems out of it tbh. Like he knows this team is shit and isn't going to freak out over their suckage anymore. Obv his wife has a lot to do with that too.


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Wow he’s not upset blasting anybody like he’s done in the past. He mentioned defensively challenged.. hmmm. He is very obviously aware of their problems. I have a slight, very slight inclination to think a trade is possible... very slight

[Chinook]

i'm sure it's hard, i mean these guys are pros and grown men, they see the roster they are playing with and the players that are getting bullshit loyalty minutes. what is there to buy into when your team is so obviously terribly constructed for the modern NBA. i know the spurs are dealing with a mountain of injuries, but still, wtf was the FO thinking with literally no real SF on the roster in a league dominated by wing players?

No real SF KNOWING by the time free agency started that they were going to trade Kawhi. It doesn't make sense. OG HAD to be in the trade, even if the Spurs had to give up a pick to make it happen. They just can't afford to play in the league without one. No one in their right minds should think that was a good idea. But that's no excuse for the guys on the court to play like this. Guys like Beli, Bertans and Forbes are earning money because PATFO signed them rather than a legit defensive wing. They need to start doing their jobs better.

[J_Paco]

i'm sure it's hard, i mean these guys are pros and grown men, they see the roster they are playing with and the players that are getting bullshit loyalty minutes. what is there to buy into when your team is so obviously terribly constructed for the modern NBA. i know the spurs are dealing with a mountain of injuries, but still, wtf was the FO thinking with literally no real SF on the roster in a league dominated by wing players?

That Quincy Pondexter would turn back the clock, revert to the player he was before two knee surgeries, missing two whole seasons and being cut by the lowly Bulls?

The Spurs used to be very good at mining the lower leagues and undrafted free agents to find diamond in the rough. Now, they can't find even a fringe, developmental SF to bring into the program. Instead, cutting loose Blossomgame (for good?), bringing in a combo forward (that isn't a good fit on this roster) in Cunningham and a guy on his last legs in Quincy....

[Robz4000]

This is going to be like 2008-2011 when our defense was middle of the pack and we were fodder

Middle of the pack is unattainable by this iteration of the Spurs.

[r0drig0lac]

This is going to be like 2008-2011 when our defense was middle of the pack and we were fodder

funny with this roster, there's no chance we're not one of the ten worst defenses in the league

[SAGirl]

No real SF KNOWING by the time free agency started that they were going to trade Kawhi. It doesn't make sense. OG HAD to be in the trade, even if the Spurs had to give up a pick to make it happen. They just can't afford to play in the league without one. No one in their right minds should think that was a good idea. But that's no excuse for the guys on the court to play like this. Guys like Beli, Bertans and Forbes are earning money because PATFO signed them rather than a legit defensive wing. They need to start doing their jobs better.
Guys like Paddy and Pau got juicy contracts too, that limited them in signing different players. They will need a trade and I wouldn’t include Forbes who was the only one playing with effort and is in a very small contract...

[NASpurs]

This is going to be like 2008-2011 when our defense was middle of the pack and we were fodder

Shit, middle of the pack is an improvement over historically bad defense.

[james evans]

At this point, I don't know if popovich is purposely sabotaging the franchise on his way out or if he actually thinks he's that great of a coach that can take this shit squad far in the playoffs. I don't know

[J_Paco]

This shit is very depressing.

Think Derozan is going to be depressed?

Shut up. Mental illness (or clinical depression) doesn't work like that. Yes, small things can set you off occasionally, but most often it is a build up of unresolved negative emotions, feeling or anxiety.

Not losing a NBA game in a blow out. Pretty sure he's dealt with that plenty of times.

Anyways, Spurs need to start looking for a defensive wing and a developmental PG, quickly. I'm not going to jump the cliff, but this presently constructed roster is in need of athleticism and defense, badly.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

This shit is very depressing.

Think Derozan is going to be depressed?

I honesty think if the Raptors go to the finals he will kill him self. He must be dying on the inside.
Not even trying to be funny.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Shut up. Mental illness (or clinical depression) doesn't work like that. Yes, small things can set you off occasionally, but most often it is a build up of unresolved negative emotions, feeling or anxiety.

Not losing a NBA game in a blow out. Pretty sure he's dealt with that plenty of times.

He left a team he never wanted to leave and is stuck in Basketball purgatory while his former team is on pace to have their best season in franchise history. Absolutely nothing wrong with what SAGirl said

[Larry O]

This team just didn't seem to bring it with the energy along with ball movement and defense. SAS got beat by their own game. LAL will be in SA on Saturday for blood and revenge. I think that the Spurs played down to the Pacers in their recent road loses and record. Hopefully they will bring it again against the Lakers and play competitive basketball. Whew! At least the Rocketts are 1-3! GSG!!!

[Chinook]

Guys like Paddy and Pau got juicy contracts too, that limited them in signing different players. They will need a trade and I wouldn’t include Forbes who was the only one playing with effort and is in a very small contract...

Pau's deal would have been fine had it just been for two years. If he were an expiring, you could just shrug your shoulders and go "well at least he's not taking up space after this eyar". But that extra $6.7 Million makes him much harder to trade, and it's JUST big enough for PATFO to consider bringing him back next year. But considering what Gasol does and where the team was when they signed him, paying him wasn't the issue. It's a flat-out lie that his signing had anything to do with Dedmon or Simmons, and folks who repeat that at this point are just trolls. But Pau's deal makes the Spurs getting cap space next summer harder, and that's really the first time it's going to actually limit them.

Patty's deal sucks mainly because of how much worse he's been playing. It wasn't out of line for the player he had been, and as the cap grows, it will eventually look like an MLE deal. I didn't like it at the time, but I could see how it could work. It just hasn't worked, though, and Mills has been so bad that it's hard to imagine the team being able to trade him without having to give up a decent pick. Teams are often willing to take on one year of salary for minor compensation. But that fourth season makes them much more wary. Therefore, Patty's tradeability is more directly tied to his performance than in Gasol's case. Unlike Pau, Patty isn't even situationally good. It'd be really hard to sell a team on giving up 2019 AND 2020 cap space for a guy who's play is sinking like a stone.

[venitian navigator]

humiliating loss. probably the main reason is the lack of energy after the LA drama win...but the fact that our defense is putrid is so clear...that any team with decent coaching is gonna take advantage of it.
Tonight it was too easy for the Pacers...they frankly won on the road by 20 points with no effort made. That's unacceptable...they had open look after open look with no effort to have it, they were going to the rim for uncontested shots thanks to defensive miscommunication... its something we can't afford...looks that we have no defensive coaching...that's unsustainable, considering its already discouraging that our back court players are often so smaller or so less athletic than their opponents that they can't contest their shots (Mils and Forbes against Oladipo and Evans, but also against Collison and Joseph, were miss matches every single possession).
Frankly hope it was just lack of energy...but I'm skeptical, because also our young or third string players (Bertans, Metu, Pondexter) have looked lost and with no idea to how to play the game...
maybe jut one of those nights, but maybe its already time to be scared...

[HankChinaski]

It was a ugly home game. Expect more games like this with the current healthy players on the roster.

Mills, man I like the guy but it is tough watching him get minutes if he can't consistently put out games like he did in Lakerland.

The frontcourt outside of Aldridge well... Gasol is just physically stuck in mud. But the rest is just going to have a difficult time adjusting to the team defense with the back court looking like traffic cones.

Still they shouldn't get any worse on defense so...hah.

November is going to be a long month.

[Bynumite]

Spurs are hot trash. They should be 1-3 right now if not for the fluke win vs LA tbh.

Pinning your hopes on Lamar Derosan :lmao

[SAGirl]

Shut up. Mental illness (or clinical depression) doesn't work like that. Yes, small things can set you off occasionally, but most often it is a build up of unresolved negative emotions, feeling or anxiety.

Not losing a NBA game in a blow out. Pretty sure he's dealt with that plenty of times.

Anyways, Spurs need to start looking for a defensive wing and a developmental PG, quickly. I'm not going to jump the cliff, but this presently constructed roster is in need of athleticism and defense, badly.
Not trying to diminish the seriousness of depression tbh. It's a real disease.

It was a sarcastic remark. But I do hope he's not that fragile bc allegedly he got depressed last season when his hot start cooled off.

Agree they need to make adjustments though. At least if they want to remain competitive which is what Pop said and the reason they rejected packages of picks and prospects and avoided a rebuild.

[J_Paco]

He left a team he never wanted to leave and is stuck in Basketball purgatory while his former team is on pace to have their best season in franchise history. Absolutely nothing wrong with what SAGirl said

Who gives a shit if Toronto kills in the (first 2 weeks of the) regular season. They still don't have enough quality scorers and are depending on (mental midget) Kawhil Leonard to remain healthy all season. I doubt that'll happen with how historically fragile he is.


I honesty think if the Raptors go to the finals he will kill him self. He must be dying on the inside.
Not even trying to be funny.

Fuck you for this comment, man. Neither suicide or clinical depression should be trivialised in general or with the case of DeRozan. He's a professional and I'm sure he's locked in what is happening in SA.

[HankChinaski]

Spurs are hot trash. They should be 1-3 right now if not for the fluke win vs LA tbh.

Pinning your hopes on Lamar Derosan :lmao
I don't think real fans are thinking this team currently with DDR had a sure shot at a championship. Playoffs is the ceiling. Getting their this season all things considered will be a Victory in many regards as a franchise an a fan.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Who gives a shit if Toronto kills in the (first 2 weeks of the) regular season. They still don't have enough quality scorers and are depending on (mental midget) Kawhil Leonard to remain healthy all season. I doubt that'll happen with how historically fragile he is.



Fuck you for this comment, man. Neither suicide or clinical depression should be trivialised in general or with the case of DeRozan. He's a professional and I'm sure he's locked in what is happening in SA.

No fuck you, you have no idea how serious DeMar’s depression was in the past. It was a big talking point for several years in Toronto. Him getting traded was beyond devastating. Seeing how good the Raptors are doing while the Spurs free fall is going to take its toll on him.

[daslicer]

No fuck you, you have no idea how serious DeMar’s depression was in the last. It was a big talking point for several years in Toronto. Him getting traded was beyond deviating. Seeing how good the Raptors are doing while the Spurs free fall is going to take its toll on him.

I wish you would do us all a favor and finally commit suicide.

[james evans]

Who gives a shit if Toronto kills in the (first 2 weeks of the) regular season. They still don't have enough quality scorers and are depending on (mental midget) Kawhil Leonard to remain healthy all season. I doubt that'll happen with how historically fragile he is.



Fuck you for this comment, man. Neither suicide or clinical depression should be trivialised in general or with the case of DeRozan. He's a professional and I'm sure he's locked in what is happening in SA.
yet 75% of this site throw the word "autistic" and "retarded" around so freely up here. So yeah, being autistic and mentally retarded is cool to make fun of, but nooo, can't talk about depression. fuck outta here with that fake outrage. I have worked with retarded and autistic kids and it's not laughing matter either.

[bklynspursfan]

Bright side is, 2 nights off before we hand the Lakers another L. They seemed tired from that night still despite having the day off yesterday.

[YGWHI]

This is going to be like 2008-2011 when our defense was middle of the pack and we were fodder

Just 4 games. Too early to say. It's a process. Some Spurs' players can improve on D...Who knows.

[daslicer]

yet 75% of this site throw the word "autistic" and "retarded" around so freely up here. So yeah, being autistic and mentally retarded is cool to make fun of, but nooo, can't talk about depression. fuck outta here with that fake outrage. I have worked with retarded and autistic kids and it's not laughing matter either.

I have dealt with awoke Black Panther idiots like you and have to say it's not a laughing matter either.

[Joseph Kony]

yet 75% of this site throw the word "autistic" and "retarded" around so freely up here. So yeah, being autistic and mentally retarded is cool to make fun of, but nooo, can't talk about depression. fuck outta here with that fake outrage. I have worked with retarded and autistic kids and it's not laughing matter either.

Lol. think you're confused there. people on this board dont make fun of retarded or autistic people, they merely point out that kawhi is autistic and maybe slightly retarded. simply stating an observation isnt making fun of anyone tbh

[HankChinaski]

Guys it is a web forum. People will slander, make out with inconsiderate comments because places like this provides the safety of doing so anonymously. What do you expect.

There are a large sum of people that constantly act out as bigots an racists on here. You just ignore them here because correcting an enlightening isn't something you do in forums. Save that for people you can speak to face to face

[J_Paco]

yet 75% of this site throw the word "autistic" and "retarded" around so freely up here. So yeah, being autistic and mentally retarded is cool to make fun of, but nooo, can't talk about depression. fuck outta here with that fake outrage. I have worked with retarded and autistic kids and it's not laughing matter either.

I'm not anywhere near that group making fun of mental retardation or autism, buddy. I would never (personally) resort to those type of insults even with a guy like Leonard.

So, really none of your remarks have anything to do with me or my issues with Amuse's ill thought comments.


No fuck you, you have no idea how serious DeMar’s depression was in the last. It was a big talking point for several years in Toronto. Him getting traded was beyond deviating. Seeing how good the Raptors are doing while the Spurs free fall is going to take its toll on him.


Please, when did his depression become public knowledge prior to last season? Seems like you are conveniently using his illness to make wild assumptions/accusations about his commitment to San Antonio and ability to fight through adversity.

[SAGirl]

I wish you would do us all a favor and finally commit suicide.
Hey in a thread in which someone goes off bc of the mere mention of Demars depression there's a different fan telling someone else to kill himself.

Get real.

Amused= hugs to you.

[james evans]

I have dealt with awoke Black Panther idiots like you and have to say it's not a laughing matter either.
obviously you haven't dealt with any black people like me because you A) still have all of your teeth, or B) have never got your ass beat severely. No, I don't do the marching and praying thing. I'm not some dumb ass christian praying to a mythical white man hoping white folks accept me. So no, I seriously doubt you have EVER met a black person like me.

[daslicer]

Hey in a thread in which someone goes off bc of the mere mention of Demars depression there's a different fan telling someone else to kill himself.

Get real.

Amused= hugs to you.

I really hope Amuse kills himself. I'm rooting for it.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Hey in a thread in which someone goes off bc of the mere mention of Demars depression there's a different fan telling someone else to kill himself.

Get real.

Amused= hugs to you.

Haha thank you! but it's just a message board. I whine and vent here because it's a message board, so I don't take anyone's comments seriously at all.

:toast

[J_Paco]

Guys it is a web forum. People will slander, make out with inconsiderate comments because places like this provides the safety of doing so anonymously. What do you expect.

There are a large sum of people that constantly act out as bigots an racists on here. You just ignore them here because correcting an enlightening isn't something you do in forums. Save that for people you can speak to face to face

True, but SAGirl is one of the better, thoughtful and sane fan on these forums. The last thing we need is quality posters resorting to questioning an athlete's mental health based on wins and losses.

[daslicer]

obviously you haven't dealt with any black people like me because you A) still have all of your teeth, or B) have never got your ass beat severely. No, I don't do the marching and praying thing. I'm not some dumb ass christian praying to a mythical white man hoping white folks accept me. So no, I seriously doubt you have EVER met a black person like me.

I just view you as a dumbfuck. Anybody who equates playing in the NBA to slavery will always be viewed as dumb fuck in my eyes. I have met stupid asses like you before and no I would never be scared of you. I wish I could meet you in real life. I live in Charlotte, NC. If you ever want to stop by we can set up a meeting.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I'm not anywhere near that group making fun of mental retardation or autism, buddy. I would never (personally) resort to those type of insults even with a guy like Leonard.

So, really none of your remarks have anything to do with me or my issues with Amuse's ill thought comments.




Please, when did his depression become public knowledge prior to last season? Seems like you are conveniently using his illness to make wild assumptions/accusations about his commitment to San Antonio and ability to fight through adversity.

I don't ever question DeMar's commitment to the Spurs, if anything the fact that he wanted to stay in Toronto, a city that for decades in NBA circles was seen as a foreign frozen hell hole with players bolting all the time they finally found one who wanted to stay. DeMar was devastated about being traded. But I know he wants to prove the Raptors wrong for trading him and go all out this season.

To see the Raps have a good start, to see the guy they replaced him with be worshiped so quickly is going to take a toll on DeMar. He wanted to be the one to take them to the Finals but it sadly was never going to happen. Not his fault, he's just not a #1 or #2 option if you have serious championship aspirations. He's also dealt with a lot of family issues as well.

Basketball is his life, it's his escape. I'm not saying losing to the Pacers is going to have him give up, but the fact the Spurs have a realistic shot of missing the playoffs while DeMar has a chip on his shoulder and wants to prove otherwise, while the Raptors potentially have the greatest team in franchise history while DeMar is completely forgotten now is going to understandably be rough for him. When the one thing that is supossed to give him that escape goes south (and we are only 4 games in, a lot can change) I absolutely believe how the Spurs do WILL have an effect on him mentally. Raptor playoff losses in the past have put him in a tailspin. Basketball matters to him...a lot.

That's all I'm saying.

[rasuo214]

Not sure why anyone would be surprised by the awful defense when the backcourt players on this team are Forbes, Derozan, Mills and Beli. All trash defensive players. Murray got hurt, Danny got traded. Kawhi no longer there to cover this up etc. The defense will be awful until Walker and White return, then there might be some hope.

[BackHome]

Let’s be real we all know this team is not a playoff team I love LMA and Deozz every one else are basically scrubs. Patty and Forbes are starting for Gods sake that should tell all you need to know how bad we are right now.

I am still watching them play they do play with heart but this Summer Pop has to clean house. We need to get taller and more athletic and he is going to have to trade or let go of guys like Mills, Forbes, and Poodle. We get two hopefully first rounders so RC better be scouting his ass off.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Basketball is his life, it's his escape. I'm not saying losing to the Pacers is going to have him give up, but the fact the Spurs have a realistic shot of missing the playoffs while DeMar has a chip on his shoulder and wants to prove otherwise, while the Raptors potentially have the greatest team in franchise history while DeMar is completely forgotten now is going to understandably be rough for him.

That's all I'm saying.

spurs got fleeced in that trade, and now surrounding DD with shit, why u think kawhi was smart and left...
if only green or anderson was still left on the team, wouldve given him some defensive help, as offense cant be that bad compared to the shit vets on t he team who have no excuses for zero pts production or just negative performances

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I just view you as a dumbfuck. Anybody who equates playing in the NBA to slavery will always be viewed as dumb fuck in my eyes. I have met stupid asses like you before and no I would never be scared of you. I wish I could meet you in real life. I live in Charlotte, NC. If you ever want to stop by we can set up a meeting.

:lmao :lmao

internet tough guy, the ultimate faggot :lmao

[Amuseddaysleeper]

spurs got fleeced in that trade, and now surrounding DD with shit, why u think kawhi was smart and left...
if only green or anderson was still left on the team, wouldve given him some defensive help, as offense cant be that bad compared to the shit vets on t he team who have no excuses for zero pts production or just negative performances

I'm still very bitter towards Kawhi but god damn does he look like a genius leaving this sinking ship. Spurs were never gonna win squat with LMA as a #2 option.

Lowry is an even crappier #2 option but the Raps have far more depth and much better shooters to surround Kawhi with.

[james evans]

I just view you as a dumbfuck. Anybody who equates playing in the NBA to slavery will always be viewed as dumb fuck in my eyes. I have met stupid asses like you before and no I would never be scared of you. I wish I could meet you in real life. I live in Charlotte, NC. If you ever want to stop by we can set up a meeting.
i have THREE degrees. not from an online university. From a real school. One of them is in history. I read books for fun. I make extra money on the side doing whole courses getting other people degrees in my free time. So you can save the "dumb" talk for the black christians.

I live in Greenville. When I'm in your area, I'll shoot a pm. We only 4 hours away from each other. You got me fucked up with these internet kids :spin. I'm ALWAYS alone by myself and you can bring as many people with you as you like when I'm in your area if you want this work. Hit me up on the pm faggot.. We can arrange something. you can say anything you want to me, but when you start making offers, I feel threatened and then I got to hold you to it. Cuz I wouldn't be a man if I didnt.

[anon]

Chuckling at the sudden turn this gamethread took. Y'all autistic Down syndrome morans who should kill themselves. I love y'all except I'm as dead inside as Demar's weepy fish eyes.

Dark ages all over again
Sign of the times.

[daslicer]

:lmao :lmao

internet tough guy, the ultimate faggot :lmao

:lol Look whose talking the same guy whose always on suicide watch every game the Spurs play. I know your feelings are hurt. It's just damn shame that on every game thread you never go through with your threats to commit suicide. I just hope one day you follow through on your threats but then again with the Spurs being pretty bad this year there is a high chance you might actually come through. You will definitely not be missed in here.

[HankChinaski]

True, but SAGirl is one of the better, thoughtful and sane fan on these forums. The last thing we need is quality posters resorting to questioning an athlete's mental health based on wins and losses.

Yet I seriously doubt they truly meant what they said. The internet an conversing in real life are two separate things. One provides a shield the latter leaves you vulnerable an keenly aware of your actions.

Sometimes if you are being a triggered by the response maybe you need to take a step back an consider why you are reacting so deeply.

I use the word "You" not to mean you literally but figuratively.

Hence why I say just ignore them an not waste the energy. Something I am ignoring to do myself at the moment.

[skin27]

I don't think real fans are thinking this team currently with DDR had a sure shot at a championship. Playoffs is the ceiling. Getting their this season all things considered will be a Victory in many regards as a franchise an a fan.

No one thinks this team can win a championship with this lineup..this team is a first round fodder at best..

[daslicer]

i have THREE degrees. not from an online university. From a real school. One of them is in history. I read books for fun. I make extra money on the side doing whole courses getting other people degrees in my free time. So you can save the "dumb" talk for the black christians.

I live in Greenville. When I'm in your area, I'll shoot a pm. We only 4 hours away from each other. You got me fucked up with these internet kids :spin. I'm ALWAYS alone by myself and you can bring as many people with you as you like when I'm in your area if you want this work. Hit me up on the pm faggot.. We can arrange something

:lol I'm an atheist so it's funny you bring up religion. For real hit me up with PM when you are in Charlotte. I would be down. Noticed how you didn't list the schools where you got your degrees from. They must have been shitty schools and shitty degrees. Tell me the subjects that you got your degrees in.

[anon]

You will definitely not be missed in here.
I'll miss amused, he keeps it in perspective

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I'll miss amused, he keeps it in perspective

:toast

[RD2191]

i have THREE degrees. not from an online university. From a real school. One of them is in history. I read books for fun. I make extra money on the side doing whole courses getting other people degrees in my free time. So you can save the "dumb" talk for the black christians.

I live in Greenville. When I'm in your area, I'll shoot a pm. We only 4 hours away from each other. You got me fucked up with these internet kids :spin. I'm ALWAYS alone by myself and you can bring as many people with you as you like when I'm in your area if you want this work. Hit me up on the pm faggot.. We can arrange something. you can say anything you want to me, but when you start making offers, I feel threatened and then I got to hold you to it. Cuz I wouldn't be a man if I didnt.

Robdiaz? That you?

[daslicer]

Robdiaz? That you?

:lol

[TXstbobcat]

Well that was a great decision to go to the game tonight. :rollin

That was an Ike Turner beatdown.

[HankChinaski]

Whats wrong with an online degree?

I received my degree in Humanisms

Became a small business owner.

Professional Human
"Eat, walk, talk, write, sleep"

[timtonymanu]

I really hope Amuse kills himself. I'm rooting for it.

The Spurs sucking ass is making you lose your mind. Amused is good people.

[JeffDuncan]

:lol I'm an atheist so it's funny you bring up religion. For real hit me up with PM when you are in Charlotte. I would be down. Noticed how you didn't list the schools where you got your degrees from. They must have been shitty schools and shitty degrees. Tell me the subjects that you got your degrees in.

You're a faggot. He's a faggot too. You're both faggots. Your parents are faggots too, especially your mom. Your children are faggots. Your dogs are faggots. So are your cats. You probably have faggot goldfish.

Even at that you're not half the faggots the current Spurs are. So try harder.

[daslicer]

Whats wrong with an online degree?

I received my degree in Humanisms

Became a small business owner.

Professional Human
"Eat, walk, talk, write, sleep"

I'm sure your online degree is worth more than all 3 degrees that Black Panther wannabe James Evans has.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lmao :lmao

internet tough guy, the ultimate faggot :lmao

:lmao

[HankChinaski]

Poop cost extra.

I usually hang up if they inquire how much more.

Good way to weed out the weirdos.

[james evans]

:lol I'm an atheist so it's funny you bring up religion. For real hit me up with PM when you are in Charlotte. I would be down. Noticed how you didn't list the schools where you got your degrees from. They must have been shitty schools and shitty degrees. Tell me the subjects that you got your degrees in.
ECU. normally known as a party school. Such alumni include Vince & Linda Mcmahan, Kevin Williamson, Sandra Bullock(didn't finish), etc.. I'm sure you've heard of it. Great Anthropology and History departments. Want to know who the head of the departments are?

[daslicer]

The Spurs sucking ass is making you lose your mind. Amused is good people.

Amuse is POS his shtick is lame. I'm just tired of it. The Spurs sucking ass has pretty much destroyed this forum. It's going to be for the next 4-5 years a bunch of people bitching about how Pop lost Kawhi and constant threads of Kawhi putting up great numbers. There is not much great basketball to talk about on here anymore. It is what it is.

[SAGirl]

Haha thank you! but it's just a message board. I whine and vent here because it's a message board, so I don't take anyone's comments seriously at all.

:toast
Didn’t figure you would but just in case ;)

[james evans]

Whats wrong with an online degree?

I received my degree in Humanisms

Became a small business owner.

Professional Human
"Eat, walk, talk, write, sleep"
nothing at all. it's just that some of those schools like Devry(and I don't even think that's still around anymore) are a sham. I guess they're real. A semester in some of those schools is only 4 weeks.

[HankChinaski]

I once ran a seminar for people like yourselves in this thread that really helped out those that came.

It was an weekend seminar titled

We Are Whores

"A Flashlight Towards The Enlightened You".

Powerful stuff.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Amuse is POS his shtick is lame. I'm just tired of it. The Spurs sucking ass has pretty much destroyed this forum. It's going to be for the next 4-5 years a bunch of people bitching about how Pop lost Kawhi and constant threads of Kawhi putting up great numbers. There is not much great basketball to talk about on here anymore. It is what it is.

So go elsewhere wtf. Go to the Spurs reddit page, you'll get banned for complaining about the team.

[james evans]

I'm sure your online degree is worth more than all 3 degrees that Black Panther wannabe James Evans has.
actually I don't agree with everything the Panthers did. I personally think they fucked up when they started allowing non black people to infiltrate their group. It's bad enough you had black informants but then you're associating with the white folks and it was all downhill from there. I don't have a problem with white people, but if I'm doing something for my people, I dont want them involved. Take that statement any way you want

[skin27]

Gone are the days we’re the spurs is hard to beat in San Antonio..now teams coming in SA like walk in the park

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Amuse is POS his shtick is lame. I'm just tired of it. The Spurs sucking ass has pretty much destroyed this forum. It's going to be for the next 4-5 years a bunch of people bitching about how Pop lost Kawhi and constant threads of Kawhi putting up great numbers. There is not much great basketball to talk about on here anymore. It is what it is.

Because there isn't great basketball being played in SA