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Mark Celibate
12-08-2018, 09:00 PM
Always liked THAT uncletom, Brunson. Was low-key excited when they picked him in the second round, and he hasn't disappointed. Hopefully Barea or Harris will retire/move on next year and he'll get more playing time.

FkLA
12-08-2018, 09:02 PM
I mean sure, if he hits stepback 3s at a consistent rate then he'd be a monster but those are low percentage shots. Plus HOU sucks.

Why is he such a smug motherfucker on the court too? You haven't done shit, son.

FkLA
12-08-2018, 09:03 PM
Harrison Barnes is probably one of the most selfish players I ever saw. He had Luka wide open on at least 5 possessions and he rather put up a bad shot. And this is not the first game I saw this.

Pass the ball to my Slovenian hero and get out of his way :madrun

daslicer
12-08-2018, 09:06 PM
Silver obviously ordered the negros to go easy on the young cracker :lol

:lol Well he's not really a young cracker since he's European. You do know White American and White European are two different races.

Texas_Ranger
12-08-2018, 09:09 PM
Pass the ball to my Slovenian hero and get out of his way :madrun

you pass the ball to the best player on the team when he's wide open. It's a normal thing to do.

oh and suck a dick faggot

FkLA
12-08-2018, 09:18 PM
you pass the ball to the best player on the team when he's wide open. It's a normal thing to do.

oh and suck a dick faggot

I'm sure Barnes takes some ill-advised shots (everyone does) but I really doubt you'd be complaining about it so passionately if it was someone other than your hero who he didn't pass to.

Raven
12-08-2018, 09:18 PM
I mean sure, if he hits stepback 3s at a consistent rate then he'd be a monster but those are low percentage shots. Plus HOU sucks.

Why is he such a smug motherfucker on the court too? You haven't done shit, son.
well he's already done more than harden and paul combined...

LkrFan
12-08-2018, 09:43 PM
I mean sure, if he hits stepback 3s at a consistent rate then he'd be a monster but those are low percentage shots. Plus HOU sucks.

Why is he such a smug motherfucker on the court too? You haven't done shit, son.

1071589831317303297

gambit1990
12-08-2018, 09:59 PM
op should cut his losses.

Arcadian
12-08-2018, 10:25 PM
Clutch performance tonight

FkLA
12-08-2018, 11:23 PM
well he's already done more than harden and paul combined...

Are you Slovenian too?

SAGirl
12-09-2018, 12:27 AM
1071524019986460672

Luka Doncic
12-09-2018, 01:12 AM
They did this live in the arena in front of the Rockets 😂 what a flex.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EBnVn6xFpg

lefty
12-09-2018, 01:19 AM
Silver obviously ordered the negros to go easy on the young cracker :lol
:lol

Kyle_Kuzma
12-09-2018, 01:26 AM
They did this live in the arena in front of the Rockets  what a flex.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EBnVn6xFpg
sup luka

Raven
12-09-2018, 07:52 AM
Are you Slovenian too?
yes, but i was just stating a fact there..

lefty
12-09-2018, 11:49 AM
:cry Real Madrid legend
Jodelo

LkrFan
12-09-2018, 11:51 AM
Silver obviously ordered the negros to go easy on the young cracker :lol

:lol

Jodelo
12-09-2018, 12:32 PM
:cry Real Madrid legend
Jodelo (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=23669)

Saw the game yesterday, crazy run.

BD24
12-09-2018, 02:29 PM
This nigga is gonna lead this Mavs team to the playoffs and win ROY. FKLA/Dwight Howard still gonna be in here defending this shit take :lol

Can you imagine if he was on the Spurs? FKLA would be gargleing his balls on a nightly basis tbh.

Mark Celibate
12-09-2018, 03:20 PM
This nigga is gonna lead this Mavs team to the playoffs and win ROY. FKLA/Dwight Howard still gonna be in here defending this shit take :lol

Can you imagine if he was on the Spurs? FKLA would be gargleing his balls on a nightly basis tbh.

I was the biggest Luka hater when he was drafted, but there's practically nothing you can say at this point against him. At his age, he's by far exceeding expectations. With his body type and the fact that very few European players at that height have come in and had major impacts in the NBA, I thought he would just be a 10-12 ppg utility player.

He came in hot his rookie year, but the biggest question is how much will he improve in the next 2-3 years? He's a different case than your typical 6'10 n!ggerbeast w/ freakish athleticism where you just wait for the rest of his skillset to fill out. Doncic's skillset is already high, but it's unlikely that he'll just develop elite athleticism over the next few years

drew8117
12-11-2018, 07:20 PM
I was the biggest Luka hater when he was drafted, but there's practically nothing you can say at this point against him. At his age, he's by far exceeding expectations. With his body type and the fact that very few European players at that height have come in and had major impacts in the NBA, I thought he would just be a 10-12 ppg utility player.

He came in hot his rookie year, but the biggest question is how much will he improve in the next 2-3 years? He's a different case than your typical 6'10 n!ggerbeast w/ freakish athleticism where you just wait for the rest of his skillset to fill out. Doncic's skillset is already high, but it's unlikely that he'll just develop elite athleticism over the next few years

You thought he’d be a 10-12 minute utility player? The 3rd pick in the draft? Jesus man

Mark Celibate
12-11-2018, 07:37 PM
You thought he’d be a 10-12 minute utility player? The 3rd pick in the draft? Jesus man

Brah, I said 10-12 ppg not minutes per game

Beartrucci
12-11-2018, 08:00 PM
I was the biggest Luka hater when he was drafted, but there's practically nothing you can say at this point against him. At his age, he's by far exceeding expectations. With his body type and the fact that very few European players at that height have come in and had major impacts in the NBA, I thought he would just be a 10-12 ppg utility player.

He came in hot his rookie year, but the biggest question is how much will he improve in the next 2-3 years? He's a different case than your typical 6'10 n!ggerbeast w/ freakish athleticism where you just wait for the rest of his skillset to fill out. Doncic's skillset is already high, but it's unlikely that he'll just develop elite athleticism over the next few years

At the very least he can lose a lot of fat(there's a good amount to lose) and get stronger. That should make a good difference in his athleticism. He's only 19. A ton can be done to make him a far better athlete.

Phillip
12-12-2018, 03:22 PM
hard to understand how any mavs or nba fan cant get this after seeing dirk the past 20 years

lukas too big/strong for smaller defenders, too much handles/shiftiness for larger defenders, and too skilled/smart for supremely athletic defenders. and he has a couple difficult go-to shots he can hit consistently when defended "perfectly" with his weird floater and step-back jumper

he has answers without needing to be supremely athletic just like dirk did. as long as he stays healthy he should be just fine

spurraider21
12-12-2018, 03:50 PM
hard to understand how any mavs or nba fan cant get this after seeing dirk the past 20 years

lukas too big/strong for smaller defenders, too much handles/shiftiness for larger defenders, and too skilled/smart for supremely athletic defenders. and he has a couple difficult go-to shots he can hit consistently when defended "perfectly" with his weird floater and step-back jumper

he has answers without needing to be supremely athletic just like dirk did. as long as he stays healthy he should be just fine
imo He has Tony Parker type quickness and finishing, Derrick Rose explosiveness and athletic ability, and damn near Steve Nash level jump-shooting ability.

lefty
12-12-2018, 04:32 PM
That fatso is good tbh

Bad Takes
12-12-2018, 09:59 PM
Trey Young outplaying and beating Doncic again.

Mark Celibate
12-12-2018, 10:10 PM
hard to understand how any mavs or nba fan cant get this after seeing dirk the past 20 years

lukas too big/strong for smaller defenders, too much handles/shiftiness for larger defenders, and too skilled/smart for supremely athletic defenders. and he has a couple difficult go-to shots he can hit consistently when defended "perfectly" with his weird floater and step-back jumper

he has answers without needing to be supremely athletic just like dirk did. as long as he stays healthy he should be just fine

tbh if this isn't subtle trolling you're just putting the ball on the tee...

imo

Mark Celibate
12-12-2018, 10:15 PM
How many star players are even true “elite athletes”? Harden, Steph, Lillard, Beal, Klay, Kyrie, Jokic all would not qualify as “elite” athletes, and a couple of them are average at best. Luka just needs to improve conditioning more than anything, and get a bit more explosive.

that's a good point but I'd say Steph, Lillard, and Kyrie have elite quickness IMO

Although Harden is actually a good comparison, since he doesn't rely on quickness to beat his defender but moreso the pick-and-roll game and threat of the stepback jumper. That dunk over Draymond Green was the exception rather than the norm. No reason Doncic can't develop into that kind of player, just needs to learn how to draw fouls once he starts getting the star treatment tbh

Instagram Douche
12-12-2018, 10:55 PM
Just met up with my bro Luka Doncic! Glad to see he's doing big things now! Go get em Bro!

https://medias.spotern.com/spots/w640/147227-1532336916.jpg

#MFFL #tooblessedtobestressed #HalleLUKA

140
12-12-2018, 11:13 PM
Trey Young outplaying and beating Doncic again.
Username checks out tbh

Jodelo
12-13-2018, 11:40 AM
Trey Young outplaying and beating Doncic again.

Sticking to your username i see.

Killakobe81
12-13-2018, 12:07 PM
Username checks out tbh

:lol

Kobe'sAchilles
12-14-2018, 12:31 AM
This is my second time watching the Mavs this year, so i'm not an expert but I'm going to pretend I am one. Dennis Smith Jr is an embarrassment. The dude never looks for others and is a total black hole. My only question is does he always play this stupid or is it normal for him to ignore Doncic and jump in the air and force a bad pass for a turnover. Doncic is for real btw. The dude has no weaknesses offensively and that's with him not being used to NBA speed. Next year he is going to be an All Star. It's rare for a Euro to just come in the NBA and play his normal game, usually they are too slow or they aren't used to shooting so quickly bc of how fast the close outs are. But he gives zero about who is guarding him and just has extreme confidence in his abilities. Also the Mavs should trade Smith now while his value is high and get a person who will actually play well with Luka.

Raven
12-14-2018, 12:40 AM
This is my second time watching the Mavs this year, so i'm not an expert but I'm going to pretend I am one. Dennis Smith Jr is an embarrassment. The dude never looks for others and is a total black hole. My only question is does he always play this stupid or is it normal for him to ignore Doncic and jump in the air and force a bad pass for a turnover. Doncic is for real btw. The dude has no weaknesses offensively and that's with him not being used to NBA speed. Next year he is going to be an All Star. It's rare for a Euro to just come in the NBA and play his normal game, usually they are too slow or they aren't used to shooting so quickly bc of how fast the close outs are. But he gives zero about who is guarding him and just has extreme confidence in his abilities. Also the Mavs should trade Smith now while his value is high and get a person who will actually play well with Luka.
it's actually the first game back from injury for smith and personally i think he has good chemistry with doncic. smith is also a sopho and has shown he belongs, so i wouldn't be so black and white on him.. he doesn't have extremely negatives like a ball does and dallas basically started rebuilding last year.

Kobe'sAchilles
12-14-2018, 12:48 AM
it's actually the first game back from injury for smith and personally i think he has good chemistry with doncic. smith is also a sopho and has shown he belongs, so i wouldn't be so black and white on him.. he doesn't have extremely negatives like a ball does and dallas basically started rebuilding last year.
I didn't know he was injured. As a Mavs expert :lol I guess I am being too critical, but the mistakes I'm watching him make tonight are ones that are coached out of a player in high school tbh. I would get benched if I were to continuously drive in the lane with no plan, jump in the air with no real person to pass it to, and then turn the ball over. He's young I know but these are just dumb mistakes that 14 year olds make and probably aging Rick Carlisle. It's only one game and like you said he is coming off an injury, but I wasn't impressed with him last year and that may be clouding my judgement.

BD24
12-14-2018, 10:26 AM
DSJ is fucking trash tbh. They should ship him out for picks/other prospects while he still has some value

WallyTiger
12-16-2018, 10:30 PM
:sleep

FlAVaK
12-20-2018, 04:14 PM
1075856959356583936

spurraider21
12-20-2018, 04:23 PM
he's been way better than i thought

SAGirl
12-21-2018, 01:07 AM
Doncic is amazing already. Atlanta has to be hating themselves for trading him to Dallas.

Killakobe81
12-21-2018, 02:39 AM
it's actually the first game back from injury for smith and personally i think he has good chemistry with doncic. smith is also a sopho and has shown he belongs, so i wouldn't be so black and white on him.. he doesn't have extremely negatives like a ball does and dallas basically started rebuilding last year.

This Nicca is the worst at rating young players he just gave Dsjr the kiss of death...

Raven
12-23-2018, 11:52 PM
Dude just made the shot of the season.

monosylab1k
12-24-2018, 12:01 AM
1077060152568807425

Jeremy
12-24-2018, 12:21 AM
Dude hit a corner three. Big deal. He shot 33% and they’ve lost 6 in a row. The hype over this professional “rookie” is ridiculous.

I am so glad the Suns picked Ayton. He just keeps getting better and improving his team as the season goes along.

monosylab1k
12-24-2018, 12:27 AM
http://i67.tinypic.com/vommq1.jpg

DAF86
12-24-2018, 12:30 AM
Dude hit a corner three. Big deal. He shot 33% and they’ve lost 6 in a row. The hype over this professional “rookie” is ridiculous.

I am so glad the Suns picked Ayton. He just keeps getting better and improving his team as the season goes along.

Try again but sounding less butthurt.

Texas_Ranger
12-24-2018, 12:38 AM
Dude hit a corner three. Big deal. He shot 33% and they’ve lost 6 in a row. The hype over this professional “rookie” is ridiculous.

I am so glad the Suns picked Ayton. He just keeps getting better and improving his team as the season goes along.

Ayton got destroyed by Thomas fucking Bryant. When he will start to play defense at least a little I will consider him for the ROY award. Being a black Enes Cancer doesn't really excite me.

testies
12-24-2018, 01:13 AM
OP is a faggot.

BD24
12-24-2018, 01:26 AM
OP is a faggot.

LkrFan
12-24-2018, 01:28 AM
OP is a faggot.

:lol

monosylab1k
12-24-2018, 01:39 AM
Dude hit a corner three. Big deal. He shot 33% and they’ve lost 6 in a row. The hype over this professional “rookie” is ridiculous.

I am so glad the Suns picked Ayton. He just keeps getting better and improving his team as the season goes along.
Also your boy Ayton was getting payments left and right at Arizona, he’s a “professional rookie” too :lmao

FrostKing
12-24-2018, 01:48 AM
Thread update?

Watched 5 minutes of him and ruled star

Jodelo
12-24-2018, 08:15 AM
Dude hit a corner three. Big deal. He shot 33% and they’ve lost 6 in a row. The hype over this professional “rookie” is ridiculous.

I am so glad the Suns picked Ayton. He just keeps getting better and improving his team as the season goes along.

:lmao

140
12-24-2018, 10:12 AM
Dude hit a corner three. Big deal. He shot 33% and they’ve lost 6 in a row. The hype over this professional “rookie” is ridiculous.

I am so glad the Suns picked Ayton. He just keeps getting better and improving his team as the season goes along.
O & 50!!!

tee hee

Will Hunting
12-24-2018, 03:13 PM
Ayton got destroyed by Thomas fucking Bryant. When he will start to play defense at least a little I will consider him for the ROY award. Being a black Enes Cancer doesn't really excite me.
Doncic has been the ROY candidate so far, but the idea that Ayton has only been the black Enes Cantor is retarded. He’s averaging 16 and 11 as a 20 year old and he’s on a clusterfuck of a team that’s not making anything easy for him.

Texas_Ranger
12-26-2018, 11:14 PM
21,9 & 10.... it think he's pretty good.

lefty
12-26-2018, 11:27 PM
Better than Porker

LkrFan
12-26-2018, 11:42 PM
O & 50!!!

tee hee

:lol

Jeremy trolling. Luka will win ROY if Ben Simmons don't win it again :lol

LkrFan
12-26-2018, 11:43 PM
Doncic has been the ROY candidate so far, but the idea that Ayton has only been the black Enes Cantor is retarded. He’s averaging 16 and 11 as a 20 year old and he’s on a clusterfuck of a team that’s not making anything easy for him.

:lmao

LkrFan
12-27-2018, 07:27 AM
1078150208935133184
:wow

lefty
12-27-2018, 08:31 AM
It’s not happening Jorge

Will Hunting
12-27-2018, 08:35 AM
Question for people who watch the Mavs - Does it make sense to keep giving Dirk minutes? The one time I watched him play this season it looked like he could barely move. He isn’t much of a threat on offense this season other than as a spot up shooter and his defense is obv a major liability.

Killakobe81
12-27-2018, 10:39 AM
Question for people who watch the Mavs - Does it make sense to keep giving Dirk minutes? The one time I watched him play this season it looked like he could barely move. He isn’t much of a threat on offense this season other than as a spot up shooter and his defense is obv a major liability.

I watch them since i live here ...
Dirk is playing due to legacy and what he means to the city ...
bringing only title in almost 20 years (tI think stars won one in last 20 for cowboys its been 25 plus)

Jeremy
12-27-2018, 04:26 PM
I’m not saying Doncic is not a good basketball player (just overhyped). I am saying I would rather have Ayton (especially on the Suns). Doncic has been a professional basketball player for years, and could very well already be close to his peak level of performance. On the other hand, Ayton will likely continue improving for years to come. Just by the end of this season, Ayton could very well be ROY over Doncic.

I understand most people have no reason to follow the Suns, but Ayton continues to improve in all aspects of his game. He totally dominated the entire overtime last night, on the defensive end. Suns are 5-2 in their last 7 games, Mavs are 1-6.

EDIT: Here’s just a partial sample from last night’s OT: https://twitter.com/kellanolson/status/1078244645644029956?s=21

Will Hunting
12-27-2018, 04:44 PM
I’m not saying Doncic is not a good basketball player (just overhyped). I am saying I would rather have Ayton (especially on the Suns). Doncic has been a professional basketball player for years, and could very well already be close to his peak level of performance. On the other hand, Ayton will likely continue improving for years to come. Just by the end of this season, Ayton could very well be ROY over Doncic.

I understand most people have no reason to follow the Suns, but Ayton continues to improve in all aspects of his game. He totally dominated the entire overtime last night, on the defensive end. Suns are 5-2 in their last 7 games, Mavs are 1-6.
The combination of Ayton and Booker would actually be something to be excited about for Suns fans except it’s impossible to get excited about the Suns as long as Sarver is the owner. It’s the first time in the franchise’s history that it has an all star talent at center and a prolific scoring wing on the same team but they’re going to find a way to fuck it up.

Neo.
12-27-2018, 08:58 PM
I am saying I would rather have Ayton (especially on the Suns)

what a mindblowingly unexpected statement :wow

Mark Celibate
12-27-2018, 09:04 PM
Question for people who watch the Mavs - Does it make sense to keep giving Dirk minutes? The one time I watched him play this season it looked like he could barely move. He isn’t much of a threat on offense this season other than as a spot up shooter and his defense is obv a major liability.

I watched a handful of games last season and I would honestly say that if he wasn’t Dirk he wouldn’t even be in the league right now. It’s just a legacy move at this point a la Kobe when he was close to retirement

Chris
12-27-2018, 09:53 PM
Amethyst Doncic on 2k myteam :lol

mystargtr34
12-27-2018, 10:15 PM
Holy shit the Mavs won the jackpot.

This kid is gonna be a top 5 player of the 2020's decade tbh.. almost every time he steps on the court he looks like he's playing chess and the other 9 guys on the court are playing checkers.. his IQ is that high.. and that's at 19 without being fully adjusted to the NBA.

Passing and vision is as good as LeBron.. the rest of his offensive game reminds me a lot of Paul Pierce the way he plays at his own pace and has real deceptive quickness and athleticism. Uses his body real well to like PP. Then he has a money 3 ball as well which in todays NBA is as valuable as having A-grade athleticism. He's really good on D too due to his smarts and quick hands.

Knew he'd be special.. but didnt think he'd be this good or make it look this easy.

FkLA
12-27-2018, 10:48 PM
Passing and vision as good as LeGOAT? Offense like Paul Pierce?

:lmao

Chris
12-27-2018, 10:49 PM
Yep looks like Mavs hit jackpot and Carlisle saved his job with another thoroughbred...

Bynumite
12-27-2018, 11:10 PM
OP's threads should stay at the border. That's what happens when you label a rookie a bust a couple weeks into the season like a dumbass :lol

Expect OP to move the goalpost. This thread will eventually no longer be about Doncic not being a bust, but about any other potential shortcomings like playoff success, individual accolades etc.

DAF86
12-27-2018, 11:53 PM
OP's threads should stay at the border. That's what happens when you label a rookie a bust a couple weeks into the season like a dumbass :lol

Expect OP to move the goalpost. This thread will eventually no longer be about Doncic not being a bust, but about any other potential shortcomings like playoff success, individual accolades etc.

Says the guy that started this thread:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271775

At least with Doncic you don't know what you are going to get. You had to be a complete moron to still underrate Kawhi in 2018 :lol

Will Hunting
12-27-2018, 11:57 PM
Says the guy that started this thread:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271775

At least with Doncic you don't know what you are going to get. You had to be a complete moron to still underrate Kawhi in 2018 :lol
Bynumite’s trolling is super vanilla. He just says “player X sucks” or “player X is overrated” if player X plays for the spurs. Idk why you’re replying like it’s a serious basketball take :lol

Bynumite
12-28-2018, 12:05 AM
Says the guy that started this thread:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271775

At least with Doncic you don't know what you are going to get. You had to be a complete moron to still underrate Kawhi in 2018 :lol

Says the "Manu>Dirk, Messi will ring in Russia, Real doesn't need Ronaldo" faggot :lmao

You're the king of shit takes FAP, even if you only bump the few times you're right once in a blue moon :lol

Anyway, that was me trolling spurfan more than anything. Kiwi did prove me wrong and he's thriving outside Poop's system. I'm just glad he's no longer a spur :tu

DAF86
12-28-2018, 12:22 AM
Says the "Manu>Dirk, Messi will ring in Russia, Real doesn't need Ronaldo" faggot :lmao

You're the king of shit takes FAP, even if you only bump the few times you're right once in a blue moon :lol

Anyway, that was me trolling spurfan more than anything. Kiwi did prove me wrong and he's thriving outside Poop's system. I'm just glad he's no longer a spur :tu

Can't claim trolling and hold all those "takes" against me at the same time, tbh. :lol

DAF86
12-28-2018, 12:25 AM
BTW, nice choke job. :lol

Bynumite
12-28-2018, 12:29 AM
Can't claim trolling and hold all those "takes" against me at the same time, tbh. :lol

Ok, i wasn't trolling then, i was being serious. You're still the king of shit takes by a wide margin :tu

DAF86
12-28-2018, 12:34 AM
Ok, i wasn't trolling then, i was being serious. You're still the king of shit takes by a wide margin :tu

My worst take yet was penciling the Lakers in for a W tonight when they were up double digits with 5 minutes to go. :(

Neo.
12-28-2018, 01:24 AM
lol manu > dirk

lol "trolling"

Raven
12-28-2018, 01:39 AM
why is manu > dirk considered a shit take? i'd say it's a pretty captain obvious take, not sure what's controversial about it..

WallyTiger
12-28-2018, 02:28 AM
why is manu > dirk considered a shit take? i'd say it's a pretty captain obvious take, not sure what's controversial about it..
Because Dirk can ring without TD, and all by himself, just like 2003 TD did. Manu without TD will be like Kobe without Shaq/Gasol.

Texas_Ranger
12-28-2018, 07:43 AM
I’m not saying Doncic is not a good basketball player (just overhyped). I am saying I would rather have Ayton (especially on the Suns). Doncic has been a professional basketball player for years, and could very well already be close to his peak level of performance. On the other hand, Ayton will likely continue improving for years to come. Just by the end of this season, Ayton could very well be ROY over Doncic.

I understand most people have no reason to follow the Suns, but Ayton continues to improve in all aspects of his game. He totally dominated the entire overtime last night, on the defensive end. Suns are 5-2 in their last 7 games, Mavs are 1-6.

EDIT: Here’s just a partial sample from last night’s OT: https://twitter.com/kellanolson/status/1078244645644029956?s=21

I do like Ayton. He just sometimes seems like he doesn't care. Especially on defense. I can see him develop into a really good offensive center. Scoring 25 and grab 12 rebounds per game is not gonna surprise me in the future. But it's also easier for him than for a guard/forward like Doncic. There are like 3 great centers in the league, while the guard position is full off stars and for Luka to play as he is playing is really impressive.

lefty
12-28-2018, 11:39 AM
Because Dirk can ring without TD, and all by himself, just like 2003 TD did. Manu without TD will be like Kobe without Shaq/Gasol.
Dirk couldn’t ring without LINCOLN NIGGA !!!

dirk4mvp
12-28-2018, 12:13 PM
:lol raven

:lol jahlil okafor

BD24
12-28-2018, 12:16 PM
:lol raven

:lol jahlil okafor
:lol

Raven
12-28-2018, 10:36 PM
:lol raven

:lol jahlil okafor

hm?

Texas_Ranger
12-28-2018, 10:43 PM
Luka got pissed after they didn't give him the ball to win or tie the game... And wow, is it hard to watch Harrison Barnes play. That guys is a retard that thinks he's LeBron.

Pero
12-28-2018, 10:51 PM
Luka got pissed after they didn't give him the ball to win or tie the game... And wow, is it hard to watch Harrison Barnes play. That guys is a retard that thinks he's LeBron.

If he thought he was LeBron he'd actually at least try to pass the ball when he has a bunch of guys on him. :lol
Luka should've protected the ball. Bonehead play by DSJ at the end. Also Luka's freethrows, WTH, had he made even 3 more (which would've been his % so far) they would've won.

Raven
12-28-2018, 11:49 PM
i thought the play call wasn't too bad tbh, he got himself enough space and an efficient shot, but he missed it.. you live with that.

Pero
12-29-2018, 12:19 AM
i thought the play call wasn't too bad tbh, he got himself enough space and an efficient shot, but he missed it.. you live with that.

He didn't just miss it, he didn't get it off in time. Might not have been only his fault though, I don't think that was the play. Doncic yelled "what the fuck was that?" towards the bench after it.

FkLA
12-29-2018, 01:04 AM
Luka got pissed after they didn't give him the ball to win or tie the game... And wow, is it hard to watch Harrison Barnes play. That guys is a retard that thinks he's LeBron.


Pass the ball to my Slovenian hero and get out of his way :madrun

FkLA
12-29-2018, 01:08 AM
He didn't just miss it, he didn't get it off in time. Might not have been only his fault though, I don't think that was the play. Doncic yelled "what the fuck was that?" towards the bench after it.

Seriously? What a piece of shit. Like I said he's really smug for someone that hasn't done shit. Carey is a HOF coach that helped bring a title to Dallas. Sit the fuck down you chunky faggot.

Texas_Ranger
12-29-2018, 02:05 AM
Yea, pass the ball to the best player. Its logical.

Jodelo
12-29-2018, 06:06 AM
Yea, pass the ball to the best player. Its logical.

Yup, Doncic needs to get it. Terrible play by Smith, way too late.

Pero
12-29-2018, 08:33 AM
Seriously? What a piece of shit. Like I said he's really smug for someone that hasn't done shit. Carey is a HOF coach that helped bring a title to Dallas. Sit the fuck down you chunky faggot.

Uh why do you assume that was the play Carlisle drew up?

FkLA
12-29-2018, 01:39 PM
Yea, pass the ball to the best player. Its logical.

Hey guess what, unless you're a GOAT level player like LeGOAT or a narcissistic psychopath like Kirby the best player doesn't always get the last shot/touches the ball on the last possession. So stop throwing a tantrum every time you don't get to watch your hero be the hero.


Uh why do you assume that was the play Carlisle drew up?

Who cares? You don't look in the direction of the bench and mouth that when shit doesn't work out. I've also read that he barks back at Carey when he gives him the business for some of his stupid plays. The media actually tried to paint it out as a positive, like "look how fearless he is barking back at his HOF coach!".

StrengthAndHonor
12-29-2018, 02:09 PM
Yup, Doncic needs to get it. Terrible play by Smith, way too late.
DJ broke the play and passed it to DSJ. Blame Deandre, DSJ had no choice with the clock running out.

Pero
12-29-2018, 02:40 PM
Who cares? You don't look in the direction of the bench and mouth that when shit doesn't work out. I've also read that he barks back at Carey when he gives him the business for some of his stupid plays. The media actually tried to paint it out as a positive, like "look how fearless he is barking back at his HOF coach!".
Agree but he is only 19. Link for that? If true that's surprising and not a good sign.

Kobe'sAchilles
12-29-2018, 02:52 PM
The dude is legit. They need to trade DSJ while they still can. The dude plays so dumb and isn't a fit with their new franchise player. It's better to get some shooters around Luka. Ironically DJ is a perfect fit for Doncic but he obviously has a beef with him. I expect that to end though the more that Luka dominates and proves himself. Dirk needs to be a player coach at this point in his career and just be constantly in Luka's ear and teaching him his move set. Tbh he's going to be a very dangerous player once he learns how to consistently get to the line the way he has been recently. Atlanta must feel beyond stupid.

Pero
12-29-2018, 03:40 PM
They need to trade DSJ while they still can. The dude plays so dumb and isn't a fit with their new franchise player. It's better to get some shooters around Luka.
He's only 20 years old, and occasionally shows flashes that he could be really good, don't think it would a good idea to trade him now. Not convinced he isn't a fit, they played only what, 25 games together? IMO way to early to call for a trade. He just has to adjust to a different role. Before he got injured I think he was playing pretty good for a stretch of games. This game he was also playing well till the last minute or so.



Ironically DJ is a perfect fit for Doncic but he obviously has a beef with him. I expect that to end though the more that Luka dominates and proves himself.
I thought that too for a while in the beginning but now I think it's not true. Like I think it was the Houston game where Luka sucked the whole game except the last 3 minutes and he said DJ kept encouraging him throughout the whole game telling him to keep his head up. But DJ isn't exactly a perfect fit, he would be if he also had at the very least a midrange shot. Like you said it would be better if Luka got some shooters around him, that includes the center.

DAF86
12-30-2018, 08:25 PM
I figured those “freeze out” rumors were BS, but there’s times where Deandre seems genuinely reluctant to give the ball to Luka.

I'm watching the game right now. DeAndre would rather risk turning the ball over passing it to another guy than just giving it to Doncic after grabbed rebounds.

Raven
12-30-2018, 09:12 PM
I figured those “freeze out” rumors were BS, but there’s times where Deandre seems genuinely reluctant to give the ball to Luka.

so far their chemistry looked pretty good to me, as a matter of fact i think most of his success this season is due to doncic's passing, but it's starting to look like a real thing now.

AaronY
12-31-2018, 09:37 AM
OP's threads should stay at the border. That's what happens when you label a rookie a bust a couple weeks into the season like a dumbass :lol

Expect OP to move the goalpost. This thread will eventually no longer be about Doncic not being a bust, but about any other potential shortcomings like playoff success, individual accolades etc.
He switched it to the guy having an attitude atm but yeah. Basically he dont like em but he's not exactly sure why yet..still working on the reason

Killakobe81
12-31-2018, 10:18 AM
The dude is legit. They need to trade DSJ while they still can. The dude plays so dumb and isn't a fit with their new franchise player. It's better to get some shooters around Luka. Ironically DJ is a perfect fit for Doncic but he obviously has a beef with him. I expect that to end though the more that Luka dominates and proves himself. Dirk needs to be a player coach at this point in his career and just be constantly in Luka's ear and teaching him his move set. Tbh he's going to be a very dangerous player once he learns how to consistently get to the line the way he has been recently. Atlanta must feel beyond stupid.

Sacto too I know they did not wanna take ball out of Fox's hands ...but with fox speed and Luka's jumper that would have been one helluva combo

R. DeMurre
12-31-2018, 11:14 AM
Because Dirk can ring without TD, and all by himself, just like 2003 TD did. Manu without TD will be like Kobe without Shaq/Gasol.

I remember people saying the same thing about the 2004 Olympics...

Isitjustme?
12-31-2018, 12:27 PM
why is manu > dirk considered a shit take? i'd say it's a pretty captain obvious take, not sure what's controversial about it..

:lol

Jeremy
12-31-2018, 03:35 PM
Who cares? You don't look in the direction of the bench and mouth that when shit doesn't work out. I've also read that he barks back at Carey when he gives him the business for some of his stupid plays. The media actually tried to paint it out as a positive, like "look how fearless he is barking back at his HOF coach!".

That's another reason I'm glad we didn't pick him--his attitude.

Here was a scouting report on him before the draft:


— Very immature

— Not mentally or emotionally prepared to play in NBA right now​

— Entitled

— Full of himself

— Not liked by teammates

http://arizonasports.com/story/1529902/nba-draft-2018-luka-doncic-scouting-report/

Texas_Ranger
12-31-2018, 04:51 PM
That's another reason I'm glad we didn't pick him--his attitude.

Here was a scouting report on him before the draft:

LOL at that report. I remember it cause of that retard Gambadaro wrote it. Whoever was following Real Madrid and Slovenian NT knew Doncic was beloved by his teammates and the coaching staff. so pretty much all the pointers the retard wrote are false.

Arcadian
12-31-2018, 05:52 PM
https://youtu.be/cY4zuzkVUbs

(Video revised with new content)

Texas_Ranger
12-31-2018, 06:30 PM
https://youtu.be/cY4zuzkVUbs

(Video revised with new content)

Id say no. He's probably in the top 10. We'll see at the end of the season.

Jodelo
12-31-2018, 06:38 PM
That's another reason I'm glad we didn't pick him--his attitude.

Here was a scouting report on him before the draft:

:lmao Whatever makes you happy...

mystargtr34
12-31-2018, 10:03 PM
I think Doncic is having the best rookie season since Timmy in 97-98.. even slightly better than 03-04 LeBron.

Cant think of anyone else since then.

Texas_Ranger
12-31-2018, 10:38 PM
I think Doncic is having the best rookie season since Timmy in 97-98.. even slightly better than 03-04 LeBron.

Cant think of anyone else since then.

Blake Griffin was a monster in his first season.

FkLA
12-31-2018, 11:09 PM
I think Doncic is having the best rookie season since Timmy in 97-98.. even slightly better than 03-04 LeBron.

Cant think of anyone else since then.

:lol

mystargtr34
12-31-2018, 11:20 PM
Blake Griffin was a monster in his first season.

True! Actually forgot about him for some reason.. his numbers were great.. but i think so far Doncic has been slightly better.

Griffin: 22.5-12.1-3.8 (.549 TS%) 38.0MPG, 105.5 ORtg 107.4 DRtg, 30-52 WL record.
Doncic: 19.6-6.5-5.0 (.567 TS%) 32.5 MPG, 107.3 ORtg, 107.4 DRtg, 17-19 WL record.

Will Hunting
01-01-2019, 12:16 PM
Say whatever you need to say to rationalize it. Ayton/Bagley/Trae are all fine young players. Mavs fans are all very content with how the draft went, it’s Suns/Kings/Hawks fans who are autistic screeching about it :lmao
I agree that he sounds butthurt but :lol putting Ayton in the same class as Trae Young or Marvin Bagley. He’s averaging 17 and 11 (and he’s doing so at a ridiculous efficiency). If Doncic weren’t having such an unreal rookie season Ayton would be getting a lot more hype, Trae Young and Bagley are having pretty good but not spectacular rookie seasons.

The next few draft classes look like they’re going to suck ass, I wish the Suns sold out to somehow get Doncic and Ayton on the same team.

Mark Celibate
01-01-2019, 12:37 PM
:lol 15-3 at home but 2-16 on the road.

Will Hunting
01-01-2019, 02:48 PM
I wasn’t meaning thay Ayton was on their level, he’s clearly ahead of them and could definitely end up being the best player in this draft. If Dallas had the top pick I would have wanted them to take Ayton over Doncic too tbh. It’s more what I’m seeing online where Suns/Kings/Hawks fans are all more interested in shitting on Luka than rooting for their own guy.
Yeah that’s retarded, it’s pretty dumb to dispute the fact Doncic is exceeding even the highest expectations people had for him.

BD24
01-01-2019, 03:12 PM
:lol OP

Jeremy
01-01-2019, 04:04 PM
I wasn’t meaning thay Ayton was on their level, he’s clearly ahead of them and could definitely end up being the best player in this draft. If Dallas had the top pick I would have wanted them to take Ayton over Doncic too tbh. It’s more what I’m seeing online where Suns/Kings/Hawks fans are all more interested in shitting on Luka than rooting for their own guy.

Luka is playing a little bit better than I expected. The only thing I'm pissed about is him being crazily overhyped, and also the fact that he is getting all the media attention/recognition with Ayton getting none. I'll admit, though, that perhaps one reason it got out of hand was due to the hot start by the Mavs. It will be interesting to see where both teams/players end up at the end of the year.

Neo.
01-01-2019, 04:08 PM
The only thing I'm pissed about is him being crazily overhyped

how is he getting crazily overhyped

just because ayton isnt getting as much attention doesnt mean lukas getting overhyped as opposed to ayton simply being underappreciated

FkLA
01-01-2019, 04:36 PM
Is Barnes in Dallas' long term plans? I want him on the Spurs, tbh.

Texas_Ranger
01-01-2019, 04:42 PM
Is Barnes in Dallas' long term plans? I want him on the Spurs, tbh.

Why not just sign carmelo?

FkLA
01-01-2019, 04:46 PM
Why not just sign carmelo?

Texas_Ranger is a Doncic fan from Slovenia.

FkLA
01-01-2019, 04:54 PM
Barnes - 14.8 FGAs, 43.2 FG%, 42.8 3PT%
Donutcic - 14.6 FGAs, 43.6 FG%, 37.4 3PT%


But Barnes is such a cancer compared to my pefect Slovenian hero. :madrun

Will Hunting
01-01-2019, 04:55 PM
how is he getting crazily overhyped

just because ayton isnt getting as much attention doesnt mean lukas getting overhyped as opposed to ayton simply being underappreciated
It’s also pretty clear why Ayton isn’t getting attention, his team sucks. If he was the rookie who was making a bottom 5 team from last year a playoff contender he’d be getting the attention. Kevin Durant was megahyped pre draft but he got almost no attention his rookie year because his team sucked.

Neo.
01-01-2019, 04:59 PM
Barnes - 14.8 FGAs, 43.2 FG%, 42.8 3PT%
Donutcic - 14.6 FGAs, 43.6 FG%, 37.4 3PT%


But Barnes is such a cancer compared to my pefect Slovenian hero. :madrun

pretty neat comparison tbh

Raven
01-01-2019, 05:07 PM
Yeah that’s retarded, it’s pretty dumb to dispute the fact Doncic is exceeding even the highest expectations people had for him.
I don't know about that:lol..

HarlemHeat37
01-01-2019, 06:07 PM
I'm not anti-Doncic, but there's literally no argument against him being overhyped:lol

He's the most hyped rookie in a LONG time..having a great season, no lie, but I'd say he's being overhyped when people are asking whether he's having the greatest rookie season ever(he probably isn't even in the top 10 off the top of my head)..

FkLA
01-01-2019, 06:45 PM
I'm not anti-Doncic, but there's literally no argument against him being overhyped:lol

He's the most hyped rookie in a LONG time..having a great season, no lie, but I'd say he's being overhyped when people are asking whether he's having the greatest rookie season ever(he probably isn't even in the top 10 off the top of my head)..


But to answer the OP's question, probably Luka Donutcic. I've never seen the media try so hard to lump a player in with all-time greats with dumb stats like "the only player alongside LBJ to have a 20/8/7 game at 19 years and 243 days". Or how about his latest "almost" stat? Almost became the youngest player to record a triple double. Maybe he'll be the youngest to almost make the playoffs too.

Seriously, he's much closer to Tyreke Evans (ROY, 20-5-5 rookie year) than he is to LeGOAT.

HarlemHeat37
01-01-2019, 07:31 PM
I don’t see the hype for Doncic being that different from the Ben Simmons hype last year, and that dude literally can’t shoot :lol KAT and Porzingod both got crazy amounts of rookie hype too.

The media is sick of writing about the Warriors, they’re looking for anything else to distract them, and Luka’s their guy at the moment.

Porzingis, yes, but that's because he plays for the Knicks..any player from NY or LA gets that type of treatment..Doncic gets more hype than those other guys you named got IMO, especially on social media..

There are 2 reasons for it IMO:

1- Everything is exaggerated in the social media era, whether it's good or bad

2- A LOT of big basketball media was in on Doncic before he joined the NBA, so there's been a lot of "I told you so" about him

I don't think there's anything wrong with his hype and I disagree with Fkla about him being nothing special(he's been legitimately elite for a rookie), but I can see what that Suns poster was referring to IMO..

However, Ayton's lack of hype has little to do with Doncic..the Suns are a complete embarrassment, it's tough to find anything positive about them, I think it's as simple as that..

Will Hunting
01-01-2019, 07:38 PM
However, Ayton's lack of hype has little to do with Doncic..the Suns are a complete embarrassment, it's tough to find anything positive about them, I think it's as simple as that..
I don’t really understand why the Suns are so bad. Devin Booker, TJ Warren and Deandre Ayton should be enough to be a competitive team. Sarver is just such a toxic owner and he’s treated so many good coaches like shit that no one wants to work for him anymore.

If they still had Gentry or Hornacek as their coach I think they’d be contending for a playoff spot.

Jeremy
01-01-2019, 07:48 PM
I don’t really understand why the Suns are so bad. Devin Booker, TJ Warren and Deandre Ayton should be enough to be a competitive team. Sarver is just such a toxic owner and he’s treated so many good coaches like shit that no one wants to work for him anymore.

If they still had Gentry or Hornacek as their coach I think they’d be contending for a playoff spot.

It is definitely Sarver. But it's not just coaching. He can't/won't hire experienced GMs either. We literally have zero point guards on our roster. We have two rookie combo guards and a veteran combo guard (Jamal Crawford). That's it. We have nobody who can actually make plays and distribute the basketball. We can't even make entry passes to Ayton or find him on pick-and-rolls. If he had a point guard like Nash he would probably be averaging 25 points as a rookie.

Will Hunting
01-01-2019, 07:51 PM
It is definitely Sarver. But it's not just coaching. He can't/won't hire experienced GMs either. We literally have zero point guards on our roster. We have two rookie combo guards and a veteran combo guard (Jamal Crawford). That's it. We have nobody who can actually make plays and distribute the basketball. We can't even make entry passes to Ayton or find him on pick-and-rolls. If he had a point guard like Nash he would probably be averaging 25 points as a rookie.
No experienced GM wants to work for him, he’s got such a bad reputation as an owner who likes to meddle and force the GM to do stupid shit. It’s beyond the point of no return too imo, he’s done damage that can only be reversed with a new owner.

And what you said is why Ayton is so impression imo. He’s putting up 17 and 11 on a complete clusterfuck of a team.

Texas_Ranger
01-01-2019, 08:16 PM
Barnes - 14.8 FGAs, 43.2 FG%, 42.8 3PT%
Donutcic - 14.6 FGAs, 43.6 FG%, 37.4 3PT%


But Barnes is such a cancer compared to my pefect Slovenian hero. :madrun

Its clear you dont watch games where its obvious who's a better player between those two. So just continue with your Doncic hate and look like a retard.

FkLA
01-01-2019, 09:04 PM
Its clear you dont watch games where its obvious who's a better player between those two. So just continue with your Doncic hate and look like a retard.

Who said Barnes is better? Him not being as good as Donutcic doesn't mean he's a cancer or that he has no business taking a crucial shot. I do think Barnes is better at getting off his own shot. He has his fadeaway in the post which he can basically get off whenever he wants. Anything off the dribble should be Donutcic all the way.

They're different types of players that can both be effective in their own way. You're just a Slovenian homer that wants to see Donutcic be the hero at all times.

Texas_Ranger
01-01-2019, 09:47 PM
Who said Barnes is better? Him not being as good as Donutcic doesn't mean he's a cancer or that he has no business taking a crucial shot. I do think Barnes is better at getting off his own shot. He has his fadeaway in the post which he can basically get off whenever he wants. Anything off the dribble should be Donutcic all the way.

They're different types of players that can both be effective in their own way. You're just a Slovenian homer that wants to see Donutcic be the hero at all times.

of course I want Doncic to succed, but if he wasn't their best player I wouldn't want him to take the most important shots. Just as I didn't want Nesterovic to take clutch shots when he was a Spur. It doesn't make a difference if he's from Slovenia or not. Luka also has the best % in the NBA in the clutch situations, so yea I do want him to get the ball when the game is on the line.

Don't get me wrong I don't think Barnes sucks, but he is selfish. He makes a lot of stupid plays and sometimes tries way too much. I also wouldn't mind him be a Spur, cause Pop would probably make him more team oriented and the Spurs do need a SF.

apalisoc_9
01-02-2019, 01:13 AM
Doncic is the most unathletic euro Ive seen in a very long time. Crazy how hes better than all of them.

I mean you look at guys like Hezonja, Krucus, etc. Every euro looks more athletic than him but hes somewhat better.

Marc Cuban is gon a sign Vuc and the Dallas mavs will become Americas darling.

Brazil
01-02-2019, 11:48 AM
not sure if dude is overhyped but I sure would love to see in a Spurs jersey...

hey mavs fans let's trade your doncic for our all nba defense Murray dude ! :lol

SFs are so silly sometimes I swear

HarlemHeat37
01-02-2019, 03:17 PM
:lol The Matador..

spurraider21
01-02-2019, 04:00 PM
doncic has shit on my luka de colo take. i've said it before, i didnt think he'd be anywhere near this effective, especially this early.

FkLA, you don't need to go down with the ship, tbh

Texas_Ranger
01-02-2019, 07:14 PM
His nickname was the wonderboy for like 3 years. Matador sounds like shit and most people dont like it.

140
01-02-2019, 07:19 PM
Cuban is such a tool :lol he trademarked “the matador” and is gonna force Luka to be called that. The shittiest nickname possible and of course Cuban loves it. I really wish he got Sterling’d.
:lol Embarrassing, tbh ...

DAF86
01-02-2019, 07:24 PM
doncic has shit on my luka de colo take. i've said it before, i didnt think he'd be anywhere near this effective, especially this early.

FkLA, you don't need to go down with the ship, tbh

My nigga FkLA isn't DMC stubborn. If he has to change his tune about Doncic he will do it. Too early to do that though. Doncin can still not have the development everyone is expecting and FkLA will have bragging rights for eternity like he had with the Boris > Lee thread.

spurraider21
01-02-2019, 07:32 PM
My nigga FkLA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17213) isn't DMC (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) stubborn. If he has to change his tune about Doncic he will do it. Too early to do that though. Doncin can still not have the development everyone is expecting and FkLA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17213) will have bragging rights for eternity like he had with the Boris > Lee thread.
if doncic doesn't develop at all and plays at this level his entire career (he's still 19) that would still be a success tbh

DAF86
01-02-2019, 07:42 PM
if doncic doesn't develop at all and plays at this level his entire career (he's still 19) that would still be a success tbh

Nah. He's suppossed to be a future star of the league. He's playing really well for a rookie but nowhere close to the type of player most folks hyping him think he will become.

spurraider21
01-02-2019, 07:50 PM
Nah. He's suppossed to be a future star of the league. He's playing really well for a rookie but nowhere close to the type of player most folks hyping him think he will become.
well yeah if he doesnt develop, he wont reach his potential people are expecting. that goes without saying.

what i'm saying is if he plays at this level for his whole career and is a 20-6-6 guy with clutch shooting, then thats still a very good career typically worthy of a #3 overall pick.

DAF86
01-02-2019, 08:05 PM
well yeah if he doesnt develop, he wont reach his potential people are expecting. that goes without saying.

what i'm saying is if he plays at this level for his whole career and is a 20-6-6 guy with clutch shooting, then thats still a very good career typically worthy of a #3 overall pick.

So he would be a KAT or Wiggings type player. If he never amounts to be more than that, then FkLA gets bragging rights, imho.

spurraider21
01-02-2019, 08:12 PM
So he would be a KAT or Wiggings type player. If he never amounts to be more than that, then FkLA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17213) gets bragging rights, imho.
yes if he doesn't progress an inch from this point going forward

DAF86
01-02-2019, 08:16 PM
yes if he doesn't progress an inch from this point going forward

Not saying that scenario is likely, I'm just saying that untill it doesn't happen FkLA doesn't need to give up on his take.

FkLA
01-02-2019, 08:21 PM
doncic has shit on my luka de colo take. i've said it before, i didnt think he'd be anywhere near this effective, especially this early.

FkLA, you don't need to go down with the ship, tbh

Tyreke Evans had a 20-5-5 rookie year. He didn't end up being the next big thing.

I honestly still don't see it with Donutcic. He doesn't suck obviously but he's being hyped up like he's this sure-fire future superstar and I haven't seen anything that suggests that yet. He doesn't have a go to, unstoppable move that he can revert to whenever his team needs a bucket. I don't think he can effortlessly get his shot off whenever he wants. Yeah yeah I know he's been clutch but long term I don't trust the way he's gotten those buckets--they still seem like low percentage shots to me. He's not an elite, relentless slasher either. Unathletic. Dallas won't make the playoffs this year but I think he'd struggle with playoff level defense, tbh.

FkLA
01-02-2019, 08:26 PM
Cuban is such a tool :lol he trademarked “the matador” and is gonna force Luka to be called that. The shittiest nickname possible and of course Cuban loves it. I really wish he got Sterling’d.

lol wtf that's a nickname you give to a guy from Spain or something not some dude from Slovenia

:lol Cuban

FkLA
01-02-2019, 08:27 PM
So he would be a KAT or Wiggings type player. If he never amounts to be more than that, then FkLA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17213) gets bragging rights, imho.

KAT is another motherfucker that has been "special" and "untouchable" for years and hasn't done shit. I've never seen it with him either especially with how worthless he is on defense. While we're at it, Jokic isn't that special either. That term is thrown around too loosely for players that are simply good.

HarlemHeat37
01-02-2019, 08:42 PM
KAT is another motherfucker that has been "special" and "untouchable" for years and hasn't done shit. I've never seen it with him either especially with how worthless he is on defense. While we're at it, Jokic isn't that special either. That term is thrown around too loosely for players that are simply good.

You're going too far now with Jokic:lol

FkLA
01-02-2019, 08:58 PM
You're going too far now with Jokic:lol

Overrated, tbh.

Raven
01-02-2019, 11:40 PM
Tyreke Evans had a 20-5-5 rookie year. He didn't end up being the next big thing.

I honestly still don't see it with Donutcic. He doesn't suck obviously but he's being hyped up like he's this sure-fire future superstar and I haven't seen anything that suggests that yet. He doesn't have a go to, unstoppable move that he can revert to whenever his team needs a bucket. I don't think he can effortlessly get his shot off whenever he wants. Yeah yeah I know he's been clutch but long term I don't trust the way he's gotten those buckets--they still seem like low percentage shots to me. He's not an elite, relentless slasher either. Unathletic. Dallas won't make the playoffs this year but I think he'd struggle with playoff level defense, tbh.

i see what you're saying, but the way i see it, his footwork and defensive breakdown recognition is miles above anyone except the harden types, and if that is the case, he'll never have trouble getting his shot off, especially with a release as quick and clean as he has. His step back 3, is the definition of a go to play and it has been automatic. In the future, he'll get a ton more points off the pick and roll and at the ft line.

Neo.
01-03-2019, 01:55 AM
FkLA will have bragging rights for eternity like he had with the Boris > Lee thread.

You must be joking.

8.6/4.4/3.5/.524 efg/106 ortg/107 drtg/12.9 PER/.086 ws48/0.7 bpm/19.5 vorp + 0 all star games + 0 all NBA teams + 1 NBA championship

>

13.5/8.8/2.2/.536 efg/114 ortg/106 drtg/19.1 PER/.150 ws48/1.6 bpm/22.3 vorp + 2 all star games + 1 all NBA team + 1 NBA championship

and you idiots think you know basketball? :lmao :lmao :lmao

Down Under
01-03-2019, 02:29 AM
Overrated, tbh.
Jokic is a top 15 player now IMO

Dirks_Finale
01-03-2019, 10:20 AM
It seems you are the only one not seeing how good he is. I doubted this pick myself, and was pissed they gave up Trae and next year's pick for him on draft day. And clearly i was wrong.

Mavs were 12-25 at this point last year. 18-19 this year with a sterling home record. I hope you don't honestly think DeAndre Jordan is the reason for this marked improvement? A guy who cant create his own shot or space the floor in this day and age of high octane offense. So Doncic is not putting up empty-calorie stats like Evans or any other example you pull from.

He gets off his own shot whenever he needs to do with a deadly step back move.

And he does not fear the moment. Late in the 4th he wants the ball and even demands it at times. Those players don't wilt under playoff pressure defense.

He does have that baby, rookie fat and if he sheds it, as expected, I think he is a 25-6-6 player. Not too many of those in the NBA.


Tyreke Evans had a 20-5-5 rookie year. He didn't end up being the next big thing.

I honestly still don't see it with Donutcic. He doesn't suck obviously but he's being hyped up like he's this sure-fire future superstar and I haven't seen anything that suggests that yet. He doesn't have a go to, unstoppable move that he can revert to whenever his team needs a bucket. I don't think he can effortlessly get his shot off whenever he wants. Yeah yeah I know he's been clutch but long term I don't trust the way he's gotten those buckets--they still seem like low percentage shots to me. He's not an elite, relentless slasher either. Unathletic. Dallas won't make the playoffs this year but I think he'd struggle with playoff level defense, tbh.

BD24
01-03-2019, 11:15 AM
Let’s be honest FKLA is already wrong. His OP literally said Luka sucks. Not that he isn’t a star or won’t be a star. That has just been the goalpost move tbh. Think about comparing someone you called trash to KAT and considering that a win :lol. If Luka was a Spur FKLA would be shouting from the rooftops how he will be a superstar soon.

OP :lol

SAGirl
01-03-2019, 02:32 PM
I like Donutcic tbh. I take him. :lobt2::lol

smaka
01-03-2019, 02:37 PM
My boy Luka is currently second in the west frontcourt votes for all star game, right after LeBron.

Othyus Lalanne
01-03-2019, 02:47 PM
lol wtf that's a nickname you give to a guy from Spain or something not some dude from Slovenia

:lol Cuban

IDGAF, bring on the UN PC, they want their head anyways.

Jules_Winnfield
01-03-2019, 02:50 PM
My boy Luka is currently second in the west frontcourt votes for all star game, right after LeBron.

https://www.deseretnews.com/images/article/hires/781859/781859.jpg

Broly
01-03-2019, 06:51 PM
KAT is another motherfucker that has been "special" and "untouchable" for years and hasn't done shit. I've never seen it with him either especially with how worthless he is on defense. While we're at it, Jokic isn't that special either. That term is thrown around too loosely for players that are simply good.
:lmao

Somehow you've managed to out-do your own Donthicc take.

Jules_Winnfield
01-06-2019, 12:41 PM
I like Donutcic tbh. I take him. :lobt2::lol


https://media.giphy.com/media/fH64yQN8GjOVQLlqT1/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/8gJm8pIril6VoLF2bS/giphy.gif

skin27
01-08-2019, 12:56 AM
Mavs should fire Carlisle

Texas_Ranger
01-08-2019, 03:10 AM
Smith Jr running the point makes no sense. I know him and Luka are sharing the PG responsibilities, but they should not do it. Smith should learn to shoot or get traded. Those 2 will never play great together.

monosylab1k
01-09-2019, 11:25 PM
Jeremy

http://i68.tinypic.com/b4g321.jpg

Suck it.

Texas_Ranger
01-09-2019, 11:35 PM
0 blocks?... scrub!

Jeremy
01-09-2019, 11:37 PM
Jeremy

http://i68.tinypic.com/b4g321.jpg

Suck it.

Congrats, Doncic is now 1-2 against Ayton.

horseshue
01-10-2019, 04:31 AM
0 blocks?... scrub!

Pop would have send him to g-league.

Arcadian
01-10-2019, 11:21 AM
I think Doncic just won Rookie of the Year with his performance last night...

Will Hunting
01-10-2019, 11:55 AM
I think Doncic just won Rookie of the Year with his performance last night...
There's no one else who was even close. Ayton is probably runner up but there's no way he should win it when his team is so much worse than Doncic's.

Texas_Ranger
01-10-2019, 01:50 PM
Ayton is damn good on offense and yesterday it was really sad to see him play with 4 scrubs and no one passed him the ball. I know he was in foul trouble but he should get more shots, especially with Booker out. But yea, it's clear that Luka is right now the best rookie. He's is also the only rookie that is the leader of the team. It's pretty weird that a 19 year old is the most consistent player on the Mavs.

monosylab1k
01-10-2019, 02:12 PM
Yeah, Ayton’s gotta demand more touches. Not like anyone on that team, aside from Booker, has the clout to tell him no. I see games where he’s only got like 4 attempts through 3 quarters. No way he should be doing that.

monosylab1k
01-10-2019, 02:14 PM
Also pretty funny how pre-draft the knock on Luka was “:lol he played in Europe against doughy 40 year olds, no way he can adjust athletically to the NBA :lol” but now that he’s playing great, the excuse is “:cry he’s been a professional since he was 16, OF COURSE he’s better than other rookies :cry”

HarlemHeat37
01-10-2019, 03:17 PM
Looks like he's going to start in the ASG:lol

140
01-10-2019, 03:23 PM
Congrats, Doncic is now 1-2 against Ayton.
O & 50!!!

Will Hunting
01-10-2019, 03:24 PM
Yeah, Ayton’s gotta demand more touches. Not like anyone on that team, aside from Booker, has the clout to tell him no. I see games where he’s only got like 4 attempts through 3 quarters. No way he should be doing that.
They don’t have a point guard or anyone who can set the offense up for that matter, and they also have a coach who’s clueless, but yeah the knock on Ayton is his lack of a type A personality.

If he ever develops a higher intensity level and starts demanding the ball he’ll be averaging 25 PPG.

Chris
01-11-2019, 06:59 PM
Looking like Forbe$ > Doncic imo

Laker_1995
01-11-2019, 07:17 PM
holy shit this guy sucks :lmao

just lol at anybody that thought this chunky, unathletic white boy was going to be some kind of star

dumb ass nigga

Texas_Ranger
01-11-2019, 10:25 PM
:lmao

Laker_1995
01-11-2019, 10:31 PM
LUKA is a beast

Monostradamus
01-11-2019, 10:34 PM
A 19 year old kid is literally the most clutch player in the league. Not just “clutch”. Not “he’s hit some clutch shots”. He’s already the #1 guy who you want taking a last shot. This is insane.

lefty
01-11-2019, 11:20 PM
https://twitter.com/kingjosiah54/status/1083935698753736704?s=21

Bynumite
01-11-2019, 11:27 PM
Not even halfway into his rookie season and this kid is already better than any Laker draft pick in the past 5 seasons.

Lakers :lmao

Laker_1995
01-13-2019, 11:32 AM
Not even halfway into his rookie season and this kid is already better than any Laker draft pick in the past 5 seasons.

Lakers :lmao


I want to cry about it but Dallas lucked out. Props to them.

Raven
01-13-2019, 12:32 PM
I want to cry about it but Dallas lucked out. Props to them.
.... just no

monosylab1k
01-13-2019, 01:59 PM
I want to cry about it but Dallas lucked out. Props to them.

:lmao “lucked out”

They did their homework and gave up significant assets to get him. They didn’t draft someone because his daddy kept yelling about it to the media :lmao

Rusty
01-14-2019, 01:14 AM
They did their homework and gave up significant assets to get him. They didn’t draft someone because his daddy kept yelling about it to the media :lmao
:lol

SAGirl
01-15-2019, 01:49 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/fH64yQN8GjOVQLlqT1/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/8gJm8pIril6VoLF2bS/giphy.gif
heh... if we go there. I think Jaren Jackson is a lot hotter... but frankly Doncic has a nice smile. :lol

Killakobe81
01-15-2019, 03:20 PM
Not even halfway into his rookie season and this kid is already better than any Laker draft pick in the past 5 seasons.

Lakers :lmao

yup. it happens.

FrostKing
01-15-2019, 06:22 PM
heh... if we go there. I think Jaren Jackson is a lot hotter... but frankly Doncic has a nice smile. :lol
https://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/jaren-jackson.jpg


? This thing

AlexJones
01-15-2019, 06:34 PM
heh... if we go there. I think Jaren Jackson is a lot hotter... but frankly Doncic has a nice smile. :lol
BLACKED

FrostKing
01-15-2019, 09:42 PM
Someone supports african refugees

ElNono
01-16-2019, 10:46 PM
He's ok, tbh, probably looks great against the Lakers... I just feel his game takes the ball away from the real talent on the team, Wesley Mathews and Harrison Barnes, tbh...

Killakobe81
01-16-2019, 10:48 PM
He's ok, tbh, probably looks great against the Lakers... I just feel his game takes the ball away from the real talent on the team, Wesley Mathews and Harrison Barnes, tbh...

saw him butst up Golden state he is not just doing it aginst bottom of the west ...
his game vs spurs today was uneven especially his jumper but he made some great passes.

his defense is trash though ...
Dude has big cajones for a rookie.

BD24
01-16-2019, 10:59 PM
saw him butst up Golden state he is not just doing it aginst bottom of the west ...
his game vs spurs today was uneven especially his jumper but he made some great passes.

his defense is trash though ...
Dude has big cajones for a rookie.
Nono with the sublte troll :lol

You should have known with him calling Barnes and Matthews the real talent tbh :lol

Monostradamus
01-16-2019, 11:08 PM
Luka whines to the refs so much it even annoys me as a Mavs fan :lol He literally will stop playing and cry to the refs while everyone else is sprinting down the court. If I have any big complaints about Luka it is 10000% that. Get your doughy ass back on defense ASAP.

timtonymanu
01-16-2019, 11:09 PM
He's ok, tbh, probably looks great against the Lakers... I just feel his game takes the ball away from the real talent on the team, Wesley Mathews and Harrison Barnes, tbh...

:lmao

BD24
01-17-2019, 12:05 AM
Luka whines to the refs so much it even annoys me as a Mavs fan :lol He literally will stop playing and cry to the refs while everyone else is sprinting down the court. If I have any big complaints about Luka it is 10000% that. Get your doughy ass back on defense ASAP.
He seemed extra whiney tonight, I have seen him whine in other games, but he took it to another level tonight. This was a pretty terribly officiated game on both sides in fairness, still doesn't excuse his whiney bullshit.

Texas_Ranger
01-17-2019, 12:12 AM
He seemed extra whiney tonight, I have seen him whine in other games, but he took it to another level tonight. This was a pretty terribly officiated game on both sides in fairness, still doesn't excuse his whiney bullshit.

Harden would have got at least 10 FT on those Doncic drives to the basket.

Killakobe81
01-17-2019, 12:20 AM
Nono with the sublte troll :lol

You should have known with him calling Barnes and Matthews the real talent tbh :lol

Nah, I caught that...it's El...
But wanted to address Luka's game...
He had flashes of brilliance and rookie moments too
But agree he needs to cut the whining or I'll stop enjoying his play... Can't be a hypocrite... I used to kill Blake and Cp3 for it...

Monostradamus
01-17-2019, 01:14 AM
Harden would have got at least 10 FT on those Doncic drives to the basket.
Yeah the refs were terrible tonight for both teams. My issue is when Luka stops playing and argues with refs when everyone else is running down the floor to play defense. He’s gotta learn to pick his spots and not hurt his team with that.

hater
01-17-2019, 09:23 AM
Kids good a little bit of a whiny bitch hut then again Cuban is his owner and his team are the Fags :lmao

I hope someone punches his weak chin a bit so he can learn some respect then he will probably go to next level

hater
01-17-2019, 09:30 AM
Harden would have got at least 10 FT on those Doncic drives to the basket.

And a Spur would have gotten thrown out at the 3rd whine

Texas_Ranger
01-17-2019, 09:36 AM
I hope that every Spurs fan not being a fan of Luka's bitching was also not a fan of Tim's shocked face every time a ref blew a whistle.

And yea, Luka should stop with it and get back to defense... even tho it doesn't really matter if he is in defense or not.

clambake
01-17-2019, 09:56 AM
i'd bitch too if i had to watch harrison barnes.

what a dog.

horseshue
01-17-2019, 10:07 AM
Let's face it, Spurs would've give up any player on currant roaster if they had a chance to get Doncic. Just look ar his game, i can not believe that he is 19.

Will Hunting
01-17-2019, 10:26 AM
i'd bitch too if i had to watch harrison barnes.

what a dog.
Trashews is worse imo, every time I’ve looked at a Mavs box score this year Trashews has shot below 40% with very little assists or rebounds :lol, I have no idea why he still starts.

hater
01-17-2019, 10:48 AM
Trashews is worse imo, every time I’ve looked at a Mavs box score this year Trashews has shot below 40% with very little assists or rebounds :lol, I have no idea why he still starts.

Because he wears a rambo headband

Killakobe81
01-17-2019, 12:33 PM
I hope that every Spurs fan not being a fan of Luka's bitching was also not a fan of Tim's shocked face every time a ref blew a whistle.

And yea, Luka should stop with it and get back to defense... even tho it doesn't really matter if he is in defense or not.

But to be fair Timmy got back on D for the most part... But point taken...
Sure Luka sux on defense anyways, but still he gave Spurs a 4 on 5 a few times.
As much as I like Tatum...
and Mitchell has impressive moments...
Luka best prospect since Simmons, easily...
Can't defend but Simmons can't shoot...

hater
01-17-2019, 12:40 PM
I hope that every Spurs fan not being a fan of Luka's bitching was also not a fan of Tim's shocked face every time a ref blew a whistle.

And yea, Luka should stop with it and get back to defense... even tho it doesn't really matter if he is in defense or not.

Yeah theres no difference between Duncan looks and Dunceic 3 minute whinning to refs after every non whistle :lol

Pero
01-17-2019, 01:16 PM
Luka whines to the refs so much it even annoys me as a Mavs fan :lol He literally will stop playing and cry to the refs while everyone else is sprinting down the court. If I have any big complaints about Luka it is 10000% that. Get your doughy ass back on defense ASAP.

Yup it's pretty incredible. Looks to the refs almost every time he tries to score if there's a defender on him.

baseline bum
01-17-2019, 01:17 PM
Trashews is worse imo, every time I’ve looked at a Mavs box score this year Trashews has shot below 40% with very little assists or rebounds :lol, I have no idea why he still starts.

LOL throwing a near max contract at a role player right after tearing his achilles. Gotta be the biggest WTF moment I have ever seen in free agency when Dallas offered that contract.

spurraider21
01-17-2019, 01:56 PM
LOL throwing a near max contract at a role player right after tearing his achilles. Gotta be the biggest WTF moment I have ever seen in free agency when Dallas offered that contract.
he had even agreed to less money, but cuban decided to give him the max anyway to reward him after deandre pulled his shit

SAGirl
01-17-2019, 03:33 PM
https://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/jaren-jackson.jpg


? This thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtwfDwMWBbM

On top of tall & handsome, he's got a confident personality. I definitely think he's hotter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtwfDwMWBbM

clambake
01-17-2019, 03:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtwfDwMWBbM

On top of tall & handsome, he's got a confident personality. I definitely think he's hotter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtwfDwMWBbM

he thinks you are white and a traitor to your race.

koriwhat
01-17-2019, 04:16 PM
i've never seen a rookie like doncic before who comes out of the gate looking like a 10 yr all star vet. it's incredible but i wish he was on a different team. fuck dallas!

FrostKing
01-17-2019, 04:25 PM
he thinks you are white and a traitor to your race.
Obviously I know she isn't White based off her response.

I just see black hair with black eyes on black skin. The equivalent of this

https://i.ibb.co/zxMQWwj/download.jpg

Neither appealing to me

SAGirl
01-17-2019, 04:48 PM
he thinks you are white and a traitor to your race.
immune to race baits. I think Doncic is hot but honestly between the two, Jackson Jr. takes the girl this time. :tu

clambake
01-17-2019, 06:47 PM
immune to race baits. I think Doncic is hot but honestly between the two, Jackson Jr. takes the girl this time. :tu

i was just suggesting that frostking doesn't deserve a response.

hater
01-18-2019, 08:48 AM
immune to race baits. I think Doncic is hot but honestly between the two, Jackson Jr. takes the girl this time. :tu

:tu

Way to own the cucks tbqh

SAGirl
01-18-2019, 11:58 AM
:toastgetting back on topic tho...

1085974363063623682

Killakobe81
01-18-2019, 12:06 PM
An offensive beast

endrity
01-18-2019, 06:18 PM
An all-around beast. The idea that NBA teams are scouting draft classes to find the next Bruce Bowen is a myth.

You scout players to find the next elite offensive talent, because that is rarest of skills and the one guaranteed to turn you into a contender. Even joke defense that Harden played 2-3 years ago was still not enough to prevent Houston from becoming a Top 5 team in the NBA.

Robz4000
01-19-2019, 05:02 AM
Doncic > every prospect since Davis/Antetokounmpo

Play Boban
01-19-2019, 10:19 AM
Doncic > every prospect since Jordan
FYP

clambake
01-23-2019, 09:56 AM
this kid is good.



now watch it go to his head.

Harry Callahan
01-23-2019, 10:49 AM
I hope that every Spurs fan not being a fan of Luka's bitching was also not a fan of Tim's shocked face every time a ref blew a whistle.

And yea, Luka should stop with it and get back to defense... even tho it doesn't really matter if he is in defense or not.

Tim's whining was not from day one if I recall. At least he had some trophys in hand before he got "surprised face". Plus, he was always right. Luka is just starting out in the league and he's pretty bad.

Texas_Ranger
01-23-2019, 11:33 AM
His last three games were pretty bad. Its nice that he still manages to put up good stats at the end, but the shooting has been off. He needs to stop shooting threes all the time. While struggling on offense I think his defense was pretty good this last couple of games.

Barfunk
01-26-2019, 12:50 AM
Dallas scored big with this guy. Dude will be a superstar eventually I think.

Jules_Winnfield
01-26-2019, 02:46 AM
Luka Douchicic

Killakobe81
01-26-2019, 10:03 AM
Dallas scored big with this guy. Dude will be a superstar eventually I think.

Like I said most drafts only have one... If that... Ayton will be good too I hope but most drafts only have one the best ones like the LeBron Jordan and AI drafts have multiple...

Raven
01-26-2019, 12:28 PM
Like I said most drafts only have one... If that... Ayton will be good too I hope but most drafts only have one the best ones like the LeBron Jordan and AI drafts have multiple...

With the rule changes, the legends suddenly all retiring and the system evolutions, we now have an environment that is resulting in about 5 potential all stars per year. Pretty sick..

Killakobe81
01-26-2019, 12:58 PM
With the rule changes, the legends suddenly all retiring and the system evolutions, we now have an environment that is resulting in about 5 potential all stars per year. Pretty sick..

Not all all stars are created equal someone you once called Dbust... Might make it. And having just an all star in the grand scheme don't mean shit. COUSINS, Wall, Beal, fat gasol etc all have made all stars but don't mean shit. To win a chip you need a superstar and most seasons more than one unless you 2004 Pistons

Killakobe81
01-26-2019, 01:00 PM
Mavs potentially found the most difficult piece to acquire...

Will Hunting
01-26-2019, 01:37 PM
Like I said most drafts only have one... If that... Ayton will be good too I hope but most drafts only have one the best ones like the LeBron Jordan and AI drafts have multiple...
It seems really hit or miss, at least the last few years.

I think the top 4 picks from the last draft would have all been the best prospect if they were in the 2017 draft and they all have superstar potential. I think they’d each be the top prospect in next years draft too seeing that a more athletic version of Brandon Bass is currently considered the top overall prospect.

Ghazi
01-26-2019, 02:31 PM
Hows our future lookin? Im outta the loop :)


Doncic... ;)

LkrFan
01-26-2019, 03:06 PM
:lmao “lucked out”

They did their homework and gave up significant assets to get him. They didn’t draft someone because his daddy kept yelling about it to the media :lmao

Damn. :lol

LkrFan
01-26-2019, 03:07 PM
:lol at the OP

Texas_Ranger
01-27-2019, 09:39 PM
:lmao

Raven
01-27-2019, 09:43 PM
nothing special, ha...

Rusty
01-27-2019, 09:47 PM
Wow....:lol

BD24
01-27-2019, 10:37 PM
Nothing to see here, just another day of Doncic making OP look like the dumb ass he is tbh.

WallyTiger
01-28-2019, 08:21 AM
holy shit this guy sucks :lmao
just lol at anybody that thought this chunky, unathletic white boy was going to be some kind of star