Honduran Migrants in Caravan Sue Trump, Say Constitutional Rights Violated [Archive]

ducks

11-02-2018, 10:28 PM

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/migrants-traveling-to-us-sue-trump-government-claim-violation-of-constitutional-rights

Lol

They are not citizens of the USA!!!!!!!!

Pavlov

11-02-2018, 10:30 PM

:lol another Trumpista red-asses his ignorance.

ducks

11-02-2018, 10:30 PM

Might as make all of that country USA citizens along with all third world countries

Where are the houses for them?
Business will lower wages because others will work for less

Open the fucking boarder let’s be Europe !!!

ducks

11-02-2018, 10:33 PM

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Oh they have to be citizens of the USA!!!!!!

Pavlov

11-02-2018, 10:36 PM

FrostKing

11-02-2018, 10:39 PM

ducks

11-02-2018, 10:43 PM

lol nope

They have not stepped on USA soil keep the assholes lawbreaking lowlife
No money people off the USA

If they have 10k and not a burden on USA they can apply from Mexico !

Pavlov

11-02-2018, 10:48 PM

They have not stepped on USA soil keep the assholes lawbreaking lowlife
No money people off the USA

If they have 10k and not a burden on USA they can apply from Mexico !Applying to asylum at the border isn't breaking the law.

ducks

11-02-2018, 10:56 PM

75 percent fraud
Make them apply at Mexico
Hell Mexico is offering them food shelter and jobs
These fools want free USA handouts

Pavlov

11-02-2018, 10:59 PM

75 percent fraud?

Chris

11-02-2018, 11:34 PM

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Chris

11-02-2018, 11:37 PM

1058402983895982080

ducks

11-02-2018, 11:47 PM

?

Internet is your friend fool

Nathan89

11-02-2018, 11:56 PM

75 percent fraud
Make them apply at Mexico
Hell Mexico is offering them food shelter and jobs
These fools want free USA handouts

They should all be declined because Mexico already offered them stay in a safe country.

Pavlov

11-03-2018, 12:11 AM

They should all be declined because Mexico already offered them stay in a safe country.Amend det pesky Constitution.

General Virtue

11-03-2018, 12:58 AM

Amend det pesky Constitution.

:lmao How do you think the Constitution says they have to be offered residence?

Chris

11-03-2018, 12:59 AM

:lmao How do you think the Constitution says they have to be offered residence?

:cry It's after the semi-colon :cry

:lmao

Winehole23

11-03-2018, 01:46 AM

:lmao How do you think the Constitution says they have to be offered residence?If requirements for admission are met, it would appear so.

The US is a signatory to the 1967 Protocol relating to the status of refugees.

http://www.unhcr.org/3b66c2aa10.html

Treaties are law of the land.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlevi

There is also a public law relating to the status and maintenance of refugees, The Refugee Act of 1980 (Public law 96-212)

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-94/pdf/STATUTE-94-Pg102.pdf

Winehole23

11-03-2018, 01:49 AM

there may be other relevant US laws, those are two I've heard of.

Winehole23

11-03-2018, 02:02 AM

http://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/FT_17.01.27_refugeeToUSbyRegion.png

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/03/where-refugees-to-the-u-s-come-from/

General Virtue

11-03-2018, 02:05 AM

If requirements for admission are met, it would appear so.

The US is a signatory to the 1967 Protocol relating to the status of refugees.

http://www.unhcr.org/3b66c2aa10.html

Treaties are law of the land.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlevi

There is also a public law relating to the status and maintenance of refugees, The Refugee Act of 1980 (Public law 96-212)

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-94/pdf/STATUTE-94-Pg102.pdf

:lol "relating"
:lol vague, non-concrete language

Winehole23

11-03-2018, 02:05 AM

read the laws; neither has been repealed

Pavlov

11-03-2018, 03:27 AM

:lmao How do you think the Constitution says they have to be offered residence?:lmao immediate change of screen name and subject.

But that isn't the Constitution, it's policy.

You really know absolutely nothing about anything.

Winehole23

11-03-2018, 08:59 AM

I saw what happened to Common Article 3 of Geneva and The Torture Act of 1996 seventeen years ago.

I am not sanguine that Trump will uphold and take care to faithfully execute existing US laws regarding asylum.

General Virtue

11-03-2018, 03:10 PM

:lmao immediate change of screen name and subject.

But that isn't the Constitution, it's policy.

You really know absolutely nothing about anything.

Oh, so you don't have to have the Constitution changed, then.

Spurtacular

11-03-2018, 03:11 PM

Oh, so you don't have to have the Constitution changed, then.

:lmao Today's sociopath.

Pavlov

11-03-2018, 03:20 PM

Oh, so you don't have to have the Constitution changed, then.For equal protection, yes.

:lmao failing with both screen names.

General Virtue

11-03-2018, 05:33 PM

For equal protection, yes.

:lmao failing with both screen names.

:lmao Policy is the same as the Constitution (again)

Pavlov

11-03-2018, 05:38 PM

:lmao Policy is the same as the Constitution (again):lmao No one ever said that. You changed the subject after your ass was handed to you, so now you have to make shit up.

If you need it dumbed down for you some more, let me know.

General Virtue

11-03-2018, 06:03 PM

:lmao No one ever said that. You changed the subject after your ass was handed to you, so now you have to make shit up.

If you need it dumbed down for you some more, let me know.

You said the Constitution had to be changed, then you said it was policy. Hmmm; now why could you want it both ways?

Spurtacular

11-03-2018, 06:04 PM

You said the Constitution had to be changed, then you said it was policy. Hmmm; now why could you want it both ways?

:lmao Sociopath values

Pavlov

11-03-2018, 06:09 PM

You said the Constitution had to be changed, then you said it was policy. Hmmm; now why could you want it both ways?You changed the subject from equal protection to housing, derp.

These are two different issues.

Do you need it dumbed down any further?

Pavlov

11-03-2018, 06:09 PM

:lmao Sociopath valuesyou're talking with your own alt:rollin

Spurtacular

11-03-2018, 09:24 PM

you're talking with your own alt:rollin

Sociopath value. Constitution can be same as policy when it suits you.

:lmao Any answer can change or not make sense when it suits you.

Pavlov

11-03-2018, 10:04 PM

Sociopath value. Constitution can be same as policy when it suits you. Nope.

You asked a different question so you got a different answer.

Do you need that dumbed down for you any more?

Spurtacular

11-03-2018, 10:04 PM

Nope.

You asked a different question so you got a different answer.

Do you need that dumbed down for you any more?

You've dumbed it sufficiently. Thanks.

Pavlov

11-03-2018, 10:05 PM

You've dumbed it sufficiently. Thanks.Do you understand you asked two different questions, derp?

Yes or no.

Spurtacular

11-03-2018, 10:14 PM

Do you understand you asked two different questions, derp?

Yes or no.

I understand you said the Constitution needed to be changed, and then you said it was about policy instead. I'm okay with you having your sociopath truth though.

Pavlov

11-03-2018, 10:21 PM

I understand you said the Constitution needed to be changed, and then you said it was about policy instead. I'm okay with you having your sociopath truth though.So you don't understand you asked two different questions.

lol derp

CosmicCowboy

11-04-2018, 02:39 PM

This lawsuit should immediately be tossed. A Honduran in Mexico had zero standing under the 5th amendment.

Chris

11-04-2018, 02:40 PM

This lawsuit should immediately be tossed. An Ecuadorian in Mexico had zero standing under the 5th amendment.

You didn't read the semicolon correctly.

Pavlov

11-04-2018, 02:41 PM

This lawsuit should immediately be tossed. An Ecuadorian in Mexico had zero standing under the 5th amendment.As soon as the people get to the border they will have standing.

Winehole23

11-04-2018, 02:42 PM

You didn't read the semicolon correctly.connects equal parts of sentence.

how do you read a semicolon?

CosmicCowboy

11-04-2018, 02:42 PM

As soon as the people get to the border they will have standing.

I see you agree with me. It's a bogus lawsuit.

Chris

11-04-2018, 02:44 PM

connects equal parts of sentence.

how do you read a semicolon?

The semicolon means everyone all over the world has constitutional rights.

Pavlov

11-04-2018, 02:45 PM

I see you agree with me. It's a bogus lawsuit.Probably. The court will decide.

Winehole23

11-04-2018, 02:47 PM

The semicolon means everyone all over the world has constitutional rights.within the United States, yes.

it's one of the things people admire about this country.

Spurminator

11-04-2018, 02:54 PM

Love to see basement armchair grammarians questioning years of Constitutional precedent because semicolons are funnyLOL

Pavlov

11-04-2018, 02:59 PM

Oh shit, did Chris actually try to ignore settled law via semicolon?

:lmao

Winehole23

11-04-2018, 03:07 PM

apparently he thinks punctuation is a matter of style in legal drafting

Spurminator

11-04-2018, 03:14 PM

The punctuation isn't even relevant. It could be a comma or a period. It's the "any person" part that matters.

Winehole23

11-04-2018, 10:26 PM

In any case, parallel construction. A semicolon is a coordinating conjunction.

Pavlov

11-04-2018, 10:28 PM

I love that he thinks the language isn't deliberate or clear.

Winehole23

11-04-2018, 10:38 PM

Chris can barely explain what he thinks. At any rate, he usually refuses to. Admittedly, that makes sense, since he couldn't scan the whole sentence in the first place.

ElNono

11-04-2018, 10:45 PM

Chris can barely explain what he thinks. At any rate, he usually refuses to. Admittedly, that makes sense, since he couldn't scan the whole sentence in the first place.

Wish we could upgrade to IBM Watson... heck, even Google's assistant might sound more intelligent, IMO.

LaSíSí

11-04-2018, 10:53 PM

Wish we could upgrade to IBM Watson... heck, even Google's assistant might sound more intelligent, IMO.

Alexa even.

ElNono

11-04-2018, 11:02 PM

Alexa even.

true, tbh, Alexa knows 1/1000 is not 14%...

Pavlov

11-04-2018, 11:05 PM

true, tbh, Alexa knows 1/1000 is not 14%...
https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/WreckingBall.gif

Will Hunting

11-05-2018, 08:57 AM

true, tbh, Alexa knows 1/1000 is not 14%...
Can you provide the background for this :lol

ElNono

11-05-2018, 09:39 AM

Can you provide the background for this :lol

don't remember the thread, tbh, but he did some really, really terrible math and then wouldn't walk away from it, per par. :lol

Spurminator

11-05-2018, 10:44 AM

Can you provide the background for this :lol

...

https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5abf6bee200000d30ceb3851.jpeg?cache=e4gymkozpm&ops=scalefit_720_noupscale

I see about 92 people with the women represented well. I see one for sure (probably 2) 'african americans' which represent close to 14% of the population represented proportionately. I never would have looked for those things unless you pointed them out. Proof that the Left will create imaginary enemies when they are losing badly.

i counted a little over 90. do you really think 2/90 represents close to 14%?

Close enough for my liking. Not surprised you are pulling teeth over a trivial issue while missing the overall point.

Will Hunting

11-05-2018, 10:48 AM

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao holy shit

benefactor

11-05-2018, 11:00 AM

:lol

hater

11-05-2018, 11:03 AM

Applying for asylum does not constitute illegal entry

the USA has ways of dealing with these people that do not require the presence of the US military

the arms is being sent there for symbolic purposes and they know it

Winehole23

11-05-2018, 11:22 AM

Can you provide the background for this :lol Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656)'s innumeracy has come up a few times:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274092&p=9411094&viewfull=1#post9411094

Winehole23

11-05-2018, 11:35 AM

this one time Chris was worried about "very old people" still on the voter rolls in Florida:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203633&page=11&p=9509852&viewfull=1#post9509852

Winehole23

11-05-2018, 12:54 PM

Applying for asylum does not constitute illegal entryyep.

asking for asylum in the USA is one-hundred percent legal, regardless of the manner of entry.

Winehole23

11-05-2018, 01:39 PM

Trump lies about his pinned tweet:

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Spurminator

11-05-2018, 01:41 PM

That ad is the litmus for whether someone can stand having their intelligence not only insulted, but trampled upon. Most ridiculous thing I've ever seen from an elected official, and the bar for election ads is very, very low.

Winehole23

11-05-2018, 02:21 PM