Florida election count/recount [Archive]

Will Hunting

11-09-2018, 12:54 PM

Will Hunting

11-09-2018, 12:57 PM

There’s also counties across the country that take this long to count all of the votes, people only notice it in Florida because its statewide elections are regularly nail biters.

Arizona for example has always taken 1+ week to count all of the mail in ballots, but no one ever cared prior to 2018 because the Republican usually had a big enough lead to call it on election night.

baseline bum

11-09-2018, 12:57 PM

I'm not expecting Florida to go for Nelson. Yesterday Scott's lead dropped pretty quickly from 70,000 or so to 15,000 but now the new updates on the NY Times tracker are just showing 50-60 vote differences every few hours. Hopefully Sinema is able to hold on to her lead. Looks like Kim has defeated MacArthur in NJ-03 by 2600 votes. Fuck MacArthur for bringing the AHCA back from dead.

Reck

11-09-2018, 12:58 PM

It’s a fair complaint from Rick Scott that Broward County doesn’t have even the slightest idea how many votes are left to count, but that doesn’t mean there’s voter fraud, and the solution isn’t to simply stop counting votes.

If Rick Scott wants Palm Beach County and Broward County to be able to count votes quicker then they shoul provide more staffing and resources to administer elections. There shouldn’t be 6 hour lines in those counties when panhandle voters don’t have to wait at all.

Is not really a fair complaint when he's accusing them of outright fraud. Fuck that guy.

Something beyond counting the ballot is going on in the Broward county. There is an under vote for Nelson but not for Gillum. Why is that? If anyone is getting screwed, it's the democratic candidate for senate.

Bill Nelson is the one who ought to be saying there is some funny business going on there, not Rick fucking Scott.

Quadzilla99

11-09-2018, 01:00 PM

Scott has a 3pm hearing with a judge Jeb Bush appointed to get to the bottom of this. Would be cool if she sides for the democrats even if they don't win for appearance sake. The fact that the Bush v Gore supreme court recount ruling was 5-4 and totally along party lines is a sneaky underrated moment for partisanship hackery in this country that undermined people's faith in the courts (if it was 5-4 but two conservatives and two liberal judges had voted against their own party would lead people like me to have more faith in the courts).

Quadzilla99

11-09-2018, 01:01 PM

Is not really a fair complaint when he's accusing them of outright fraud. Fuck that guy.

Something beyond counting the ballot is going on in the Broward county. There is an under vote for Nelson but not for Gillum. Why is that? If anyone is getting screwed, it's the democratic candidate for senate.

Bill Nelson is the one who ought to be saying there is some funny business going on there, not Rick fucking Scott.

Looks like the idiot running the Broward County elections made a confusing ballot and some people didn't see the senator section

baseline bum

11-09-2018, 01:01 PM

boutons_deux

11-09-2018, 01:04 PM

Rick Scott Accuses Democrats of Trying to Thwart G.O.P.’s Successful Voter Suppression

TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA —In a hastily called press conference on Thursday evening, Florida Governor Rick Scott accused Democrats of nefariously plotting to undo the Republican Party’s highly successful voter-suppression effort.

“As Republicans, we have worked tirelessly to intimidate, discourage, and otherwise disenfranchise millions of Florida voters,”

a visibly enraged Scott said.

“We are not about to let Democrats swoop in at the last minute and ruin all of that fine work.”

Scott angrily singled out the Broward County and Palm Beach County supervisors for their “rampant enforcement of the right to vote.”

“They are literally finding votes by people we are a hundred per cent sure we had scared away from the voting booths,”

he said. “This will not stand.”

The Florida governor said that if Democrats think that they can undermine the Republicans’ arduous and painstaking efforts to suppress votes in Florida, “they better think again.”

“I will not sit idly by while every vote is counted,” Scott said.

“This is Florida, goddammit.”

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/rick-scott-accuses-democrats-of-trying-to-thwart-gops-successful-voter-suppression (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/rick-scott-accuses-democrats-of-trying-to-thwart-gops-successful-voter-suppression)

Will Hunting

11-09-2018, 01:08 PM

Is not really a fair complaint when he's accusing them of outright fraud. Fuck that guy.

Something beyond counting the ballot is going on in the Broward county. There is an under vote for Nelson but not for Gillum. Why is that? If anyone is getting screwed, it's the democratic candidate for senate.

Bill Nelson is the one who ought to be saying there is some funny business going on there, not Rick fucking Scott.
The fraud complaint is illogical. If this were an elaborate fraud scheme then I’m pretty sure they’d be able to know how many fake votes they intended to count and could give a number, this is a simple case of incompetent government employees.

Will Hunting

11-09-2018, 01:16 PM

Supposedly Arizona will be releasing new results every day at 5PM. No idea which way that race is going.
Apparenly the computer system in Maricopa County hasn’t been updated since the 1980s and can only process 75k mail in ballots each day (this is a county with over 4 million people :lmao).

Will Hunting

11-09-2018, 01:29 PM

Looks like the idiot running the Broward County elections made a confusing ballot and some people didn't see the senator section
This is why liberals are the silent majority, there’s a fucking pivotal senate race on the ballot that’s going to be close but tens of thousands of liberal voters were too fucking lazy/stupid to fill it out correctly :lol

The panhandle voters are for the most part braindead rednecks but they find a way to not do stupid shit like this.

Quadzilla99

11-09-2018, 01:38 PM

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Quadzilla99

11-09-2018, 01:40 PM

This is why liberals are the silent majority, there’s a fucking pivotal senate race on the ballot that’s going to be close but tens of thousands of liberal voters were too fucking lazy/stupid to fill it out correctly :lol

The panhandle voters are for the most part braindead rednecks but they find a way to not do stupid shit like this.

It wasn't even that confusing if you look at it (scroll down) https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/something-looks-weird-in-broward-county-heres-what-we-know-about-a-possible-florida-recount/

To be fair i think it that type of ballot was released to the hillbillies in the panhandle they might have been befuddled too

ducks

11-09-2018, 03:21 PM

Brenda Snipes, Broward elections official at center of ballot storm, has history of controversy

ducks

11-09-2018, 03:23 PM

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Maybe throw them all out ?
Or fire the boss that overseas it and staff !
Break rules hell to pay

ducks

11-09-2018, 03:24 PM

Apparenly the computer system in Maricopa County hasn’t been updated since the 1980s and can only process 75k mail in ballots each day (this is a county with over 4 million people :lmao).

McCain and flake useless to state of Arizona

DMC

11-09-2018, 03:25 PM

It wasn't even that confusing if you look at it (scroll down) https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/something-looks-weird-in-broward-county-heres-what-we-know-about-a-possible-florida-recount/

To be fair i think it that type of ballot was released to the hillbillies in the panhandle they might have been befuddled too

I think over 5K people voted for Escribir A Lekri, since the instructions told them to write that in.

benefactor

11-09-2018, 03:36 PM

McCain and flake useless to state of Arizona
...and if anyone can detect uselessness, it's you.

Will Hunting

11-09-2018, 03:47 PM

McCain and flake useless to state of Arizona
What the fuck do the two US senators have to do with the computer system used at the county level to administer elections?

AaronY

11-09-2018, 03:49 PM

ducks with mccain complaints still lmao. never seen anyone as triggered as ducks was when mccain turned that thumbs down on repealing obamacare

FrostKing

11-09-2018, 03:56 PM

Saw a short clip of Brenda Snipes. Oh yah. This is that "resistance"

https://www.tampabay.com/resizer/kwgrMhvU8iXAmYuxeKWSTpDDj4k=/900x0/smart/filters:quality(60)/s3.amazonaws.com/arc-wordpress-client-uploads/tbt/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/09100129/AP_FLLAU105_ELECTION_2018_F.jpg

AaronY

11-09-2018, 03:57 PM

its a black lady!

LkrFan

11-09-2018, 03:59 PM

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:lol

FrostKing

11-09-2018, 03:59 PM

its a black lady!
Rigging or incompetance?

ducks

11-09-2018, 04:05 PM

What the fuck do the two US senators have to do with the computer system used at the county level to administer elections?

Is it not the senators job to help state ?

Donald J. Trump
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Just out — in Arizona, SIGNATURES DON’T MATCH. Electoral corruption - Call for a new Election? We must protect our Democracy!

Chris

11-09-2018, 04:07 PM

its a black lady!

Oh look it's a non sequitur!

Will Hunting

11-09-2018, 04:10 PM

Is it not the senators job to help state ?

Donald J. Trump
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Just out — in Arizona, SIGNATURES DON’T MATCH. Electoral corruption - Call for a new Election? We must protect our Democracy!
It’s actually not. The job functions of a US Senator do not in any way include administrative matters handled at the county or state level. Do you seriously not understand this?

florige

11-09-2018, 04:13 PM

Always Florida...I'll never forget staying up until 3 in the morning to watch Bush steal the presidency. I lost my faith in the government then, but along came Trump.

So you were Gore??

ducks

11-09-2018, 04:15 PM

McCain fly back and forth so he could be seen watching Dbacks games is that in job description ?

Will Hunting

11-09-2018, 04:16 PM

McCain fly back and forth so he could be seen watching Dbacks games is that in job description ?
You’re telling me a US Senator flew back and forth between Washington DC and his home state?!

What a fucking Greek tragedy!!!

ducks

11-09-2018, 04:18 PM

Yep and stayed up watching Dbacks games and acted like a sleepy baby next day asking question

Should not have stayed up so late record it
McCain had plenty of money

boutons_deux

11-09-2018, 04:21 PM

Senator Nelson files an emergency lawsuit that may determine the outcome of the Florida elections (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/9/1811581/-Senator-Nelson-files-an-emergency-lawsuit-that-may-determine-the-outcome-of-the-Florida-elections)

these “invalid signature” ballot rejections are happening all over Florida.

One Twitter user responded to Patrick Murphy that an election judge questioned her signature

because her written signature didn’t match the signature created by using her finger on a touch screen pad at the polling location.

Whose signature would match?

These always look different than a written signature.

And as you can probably guess,

the “invalid signature” rejections seem to disproportionately happen to African American voters and young voters.

Nelson's recount lawyer Marc Elias said the law puts the responsibility of

signature review in the hands of untrained, unqualified local election workers and

leads to the disqualification of legitimate ballots.

"This results in a complete lack of uniformity," Elias said.

"Voters in one county are subject to one standard for reviewing signatures than others."

Nelson is asking the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Florida for an immediate injunction and to declare

"that all voters who submit a (vote-by-mail) or provisional ballot, and

whose ballots are subsequently determined to involve a signature mismatch,

be counted as valid votes."

He also requests Saturday's deadline to canvas ballots be extended until the legal matter is resolved.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/9/1811581/-Senator-Nelson-files-an-emergency-lawsuit-that-may-determine-the-outcome-of-the-Florida-elections

LkrFan

11-09-2018, 04:30 PM

Oh look it's a non sequitur!

1060997764757291009
:lol

CosmicCowboy

11-09-2018, 04:32 PM

Snipes ordered to turn everything over by 7 tonight.

SnakeBoy

11-09-2018, 04:36 PM

As they used to say in the mid 2000s what the dilly yo? (yes I'm a dork)

Seems republicans are crying voter fraud and rigging (again) and the Broward county election lady is incompetent. But what's really going on?

Give me your partisan takes here

Dirty Dems trying to steal elections after the fact to save :crydemocracy:cry from Trump

Chris

11-09-2018, 04:38 PM

So you were Gore??

Nader

Pavlov

11-09-2018, 04:39 PM

Nader:rollin

Pavlov

11-09-2018, 04:39 PM

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rmt

11-09-2018, 04:45 PM

From another thread:

Ducks...

Have you heard of mailed in ballots?
Well this year there was an Big increase in almost every state.
They take longer to count. They take up physical volume. They come in at vastly different times compared to election day voting.
They are more difficult to count compared to polling station electronic ballots. (early or late)

Miami-Dade County has more voters than Broward, and we don't have the problems they seem to continually have. It's just incompetence up there - and those idiots keep voting her back in!

AaronY

11-09-2018, 04:46 PM

Oh look it's a non sequitur!
The lady in the pic is not black?!?!!!

Chris

11-09-2018, 04:52 PM

The lady in the pic is not black?!?!!!

I don't see skin color, only content of character.

LkrFan

11-09-2018, 04:53 PM

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You can't make this shit up! #BestPeople :lmao

AaronY

11-09-2018, 04:53 PM

I don't see skin color, only content of character.

Oh something about that pic makes her content of character look bad? what is it?

100% sure Frostking does see skin color anyway tbh

Winehole23

11-09-2018, 04:56 PM

it's not unusual for counting to take this long, what's unusual is how close the races are.

how close they are makes them statistically harder to call.

Winehole23

11-09-2018, 05:02 PM

Florida DLE found no allegations of fraud:

After the Florida Department of Law Enforcement said Thursday night it would investigate two local election officials at the request of Gov. Rick Scott, the agency now says that because no voter fraud allegations were made, it is no longer pursuing an investigation.

“What changed is that this morning we spoke with the Department of State and they indicated they had no criminal allegations of fraud,” FDLE spokesperson Gretl Plessinger told POLITICO in an email. “So, after speaking to them, we offered our assistance in the event any criminal allegations are identified.”
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2018/11/09/after-scott-requested-investigation-law-enforcement-says-no-voter-fraud-allegations-found-690552

ducks

11-09-2018, 06:35 PM

Judge sides with Florida’s Rick Scott, cites ‘violation’ of state constitution by election officials

Reck

11-09-2018, 06:38 PM

Judge sides with Florida’s Rick Scott, cites ‘violation’ of state constitution by election officials

Actually everybody wins. The judge ordered the Broward county to release how many ballots are left to count. Both sides want to know that.

ducks

11-09-2018, 06:45 PM

RNo One Has Faith in Her': Watters Calls Out Broward County Election Supervisor
Lack of transparency, communication 'suspicious.'

Pavlov

11-09-2018, 06:46 PM

RNo One Has Faith in Her': Watters Calls Out Broward County Election Supervisor
Lack of transparency, communication 'suspicious.'Wow, a Fox News host said a thing?

That's news!

Chris

11-09-2018, 06:52 PM

Wow, a Fox News host said a thing?

That's news!

Your beloved Jim Acosta withstanding of course.

Pavlov

11-09-2018, 06:54 PM

Your beloved Jim Acosta withstanding of course.He's not on Fox News and I don't care about him tbh beyond his triggering you and Dennison.

Chris

11-09-2018, 06:56 PM

He's not on Fox News and I don't care about him tbh beyond his triggering you and Dennison.

A rare honest take.

That's refreshing.

boutons_deux

11-09-2018, 10:51 PM

FLORIDA ACTIVISTS TO SUE STATE OVER BALLOT IMAGE PRESERVATION

Election integrity advocates will take Florida to court over ballot image preservation as soon as possible — the latest in a myriad of conflicts contributing to post-election chaos in the Sunshine State.

A group of plaintiffs is about to sue Secretary of State Ken Detzner (R) over his office’s failure to enforce legal requirement to preserve the digital image files of ballots cast.

These records are crucial with the possibility of a recount in both the US Senate and governor’s races.
Nearly two-thirds of Florida counties failed to save ballot images

during this week’s midterm election, says John Brakey, founder of AUDIT-USA, an election integrity advocacy group. Rather than keep the image files to use in potential audits,

officials program the machines to destroy them.
https://whowhatwhy.org/2018/11/09/florida-activists-to-sue-state-over-ballot-image-preservation/

boutons_deux

11-09-2018, 11:52 PM

goddamn, you rightwingnutjob assholes are classless garbage so-called people

Republican Congressman leads disturbing rally outside Florida Board of Elections to harass officials (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/9/1811613/-Republican-Congressman-leads-disturbing-rally-outside-Florida-Board-of-Elections-to-harass-officials)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/609811/story_image/fl.png?1541795715

There is an absolutely bonkers protest happening outside of the Broward County Board of Elections in Southern Florida.

Congressman Matt Gaetz, who regularly pushes extremist ideologies and far-flung right-wing conspiracies and who lives at the opposite end of the state, representing the Panhandle, was there getting in the face of residents who are trying to ensure that every vote counts.

Gaetz apparently feels differently.

Watch him shout at his fellow Floridian, emboldened by the angry mob of Republican voters surrounding them.

This man is a disgrace to the United States Congress.

two weeks ago when Republicans were chanting “Jobs not mobs” at Trump rallies. Now they seem to love mobs!
Meanwhile, there is NO fraud investigation, despite what Gaetz and Rick Scott are claiming.

Republicans like Gaetz are remembering how successful their efforts were in 2000

when they paraded a bunch of Republican interns to mob the Board of Elections,

an effort that did help to end the recount and declare George W. Bush the winner,

despite a later count that showed different results.

That event was dubbed the “Brooks Brothers riot.”

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1811613

Nathan89

11-09-2018, 11:52 PM

https://twitter.com/JeffKottkamp/status/1061064677889921025?s=20

Nathan89

11-09-2018, 11:53 PM

That diversity hire should have lost her job on multiple occasions tbh.

Nathan89

11-09-2018, 11:56 PM

You know that corruption people always point to for the reason a country sucks?

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 12:06 AM

https://twitter.com/JeffKottkamp/status/1061064677889921025?s=20a lot of Republicans making evidence-free allegations of fraud today. I hope Florida's Lieutenant Governor isn't another one.

DMC

11-10-2018, 12:08 AM

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You can't make this shit up! #BestPeople :lmao

That's the lead singer from Disturbed.

DMC

11-10-2018, 12:10 AM

On a serious note, all the false flag reports that come piling in during these events don't need to be broadcast. Just wait for the facts instead of repeating every shit comment on the interwebs. Some of you wonder why the country is going to shit, it's full of faggots like you who perpetuate this shit day and night like it's a full time job being a douchebag.

boutons_deux

11-10-2018, 12:15 AM

"Elections staff filling in blank ballots"

... for the Repug candidates, for sure.

Nathan89

11-10-2018, 12:30 AM

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1061074201811927040?s=20

Chris

11-10-2018, 12:35 AM

DMC

11-10-2018, 09:09 AM

You're asking for integrity from the Media? :lol

I'm referring to individuals.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 09:40 AM

POTUS and Rick Scott making evidence free allegations of voter fraud is an attempt to halt vote counting and an abuse of power per se.

it is corruption. it's the way dictators in so-called shithole countries behave when they're afraid they'll lose.

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:12 AM

ducks

11-10-2018, 10:14 AM

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1061074201811927040?s=20

Lock her up

ducks

11-10-2018, 10:15 AM

"Elections staff filling in blank ballots"

... for the Repug candidates, for sure.

prove it

pgardn

11-10-2018, 10:17 AM

Evidence free is the new norm. Just ask Brett Kavanaugh.

Oh.

So Rick Scott was present and observed voter fraud in Florida. Good to know. This should be a slam dunk. Except.... it’s not. Now we know he’s a liar but...

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:18 AM

Evidence free is the new norm. Just ask Brett Kavanaugh.it's one thing when a private citizen makes an evidence-free allegation, quite another when the seat of power conjures corruption from thin air to defeat voting and preserve itself.

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:21 AM

Oh.

So Rick Scott was present and observed voter fraud in Florida. Good to know. This should be a slam dunk. Except.... it’s not. Now we know he’s a liar but...

Sometimes I think you're high as fuck. Half the shit you say makes absolutely no sense. Do you work around dangerous chemicals?

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:23 AM

it's one thing when a private citizen makes an evidence-free allegation, quite another when the seat of power conjures corruption from thin air to defeat voting and preserve itself.

Partisan "private citizens" who stand behind witch hunts with no evidence (including those here who parroted false accusations from gold digging whores) deserve no less.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:25 AM

Partisan "private citizens" who stand behind witch hunts with no evidence (including those here who parroted false accusations from gold digging whores) deserve no less.Smearing one man's reputation is hardly equivalent to using power corruptly to undermine an election, but go ahead, die on that anthill.

pgardn

11-10-2018, 10:26 AM

Sometimes I think you're high as fuck. Half the shit you say makes absolutely no sense. Do you work around dangerous chemicals?

You are a dumbass for comparing the two.
Simple.

OCD can make one relatively inflexible.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:31 AM

DMC, seems you think it's ok for Florida to curbstomp an election because Kavanaugh had a rough confirmation.

Rather high price to pay for hurt feelings.

pgardn

11-10-2018, 10:33 AM

Lock her up

And all the other officials running elections in congressional districts and other Florida elections still undecided.
Officials recounting Republicans demanding votes not counted and waiting to see if they might win included.

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:34 AM

DMC, seems you think it's ok for Florida to curbstomp an election because Kavanaugh had a rough confirmation.

Rather high price to pay for hurt feelings.

Non sequitur

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:36 AM

Partisan "private citizens" who stand behind witch hunts with no evidence (including those here who parroted false accusations from gold digging whores) deserve no less.

https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-09-at-12.32.16-PM.png (https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/09/melania-kavanaugh-investiture-ceremony/)

His life was ruined! Democracy traduced!

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:37 AM

You are a dumbass for comparing the two.
Simple.

OCD can make one relatively inflexible.

Which democrat was present when Ford claims she was assaulted? Yet they all claim "I believe her". Oddly the belief went right down party lines. What's the odds? Partisan fucks like you who's opinions always fall along party lines are useless as watchdogs so your barks are just noise.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:38 AM

Non sequituryou wrote what you wrote. you said Florida voters (partisans who parroted allegedly false claims) deserve what Rick Scott and DJT are doing to them right now.

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:38 AM

https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Screen-Shot-2018-11-09-at-12.32.16-PM.png (https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/09/melania-kavanaugh-investiture-ceremony/)

But you've not seen the results of the Florida debacle yet. Why are you comparing apples to oranges? Oh I know, because it suits your narrative. Next you'll play the "I'm fair and balanced" card.

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:38 AM

you wrote what you wrote. you said Florida voters deserve what Rick Scott and DJT are doing to them right now.

No I didn't.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:40 AM

what did you mean by "deserve no less"?

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:41 AM

in the context of the quoted, not easy to see how you meant otherwise

pgardn

11-10-2018, 10:41 AM

Which democrat was present when Ford claims she was assaulted? Yet they all claim "I believe her". Oddly the belief went right down party lines. What's the odds? Partisan fucks like you who's opinions always fall along party lines are useless as watchdogs so your barks are just noise.

Oh so you had to think about it now it does make sense.
Now you use another horrible argument to cover yourself.
Good boy. I woke you.

Do you get away with this on a consistent basis on this board ?

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:42 AM

Partisan "private citizens" who stand behind witch hunts with no evidence (including those here who parroted false accusations from gold digging whores) deserve no less.

you wrote what you wrote. you said Florida voters (partisans who parroted allegedly false claims) deserve what Rick Scott and DJT are doing to them right now.

No I didn't.

what did you mean by "deserve no less"?

https://i.imgur.com/oWUuoMf.gif

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:43 AM

now look at the quote you left out.

the one that precedes your first quote. it frames your reply.

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:44 AM

If you're willing to throw out intellectual honesty in the name of gaining ground politically, you get what you get and you fucking deserve it when the shit comes back at you. All the watchdogging you do here is heavily slanted toward your political goal, which means it's just noise because it's indistinguishable from background of others doing the exact same thing in opposite directions.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:46 AM

But you've not seen the results of the Florida debacle yet. Why are you comparing apples to oranges? Oh I know, because it suits your narrative. Next you'll play the "I'm fair and balanced" card.It doesn't matter what the result is. Gov. Rick Scott put his thumb on the scale of his own election. So did DJT.

It's de facto corruption.

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:46 AM

now look at the quote you left out.

the one that precedes your first quote. it frames your reply.

Are you a Florida voter?

pgardn

11-10-2018, 10:47 AM

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:48 AM

If you're willing to throw out intellectual honesty in the name of gaining ground politically, you get what you get and you fucking deserve it when the shit comes back at you.Political power corruptly attempting to influenceg the outcome of an election is political payback to hypocrites, hence richly deserved and politically kosher.

Gotcha.

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:50 AM

It doesn't matter what the result is. Gov. Rick Scott put his thumb on the scale of his own election. So did DJT.

It's de facto corruption.

It's just one example in countless examples. You only see the red ones. Some here only see the blue ones. The fact that half of the voting population is content to allow it as long as it benefits them directly is why it doesn't move me. It's not a political issue, it's an overall integrity issue. We're fucked and unfuckable. You ranting about it changes nothing.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:50 AM

Are you a Florida voter?it was a personal putdown. I guess you ran out of ammo.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:51 AM

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:51 AM

You accuse someone else of being intellectually dishonest.
That’s merely dishonest.

Your next salient point shall be your first.

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:52 AM

it was a personal putdown. I guess you ran out of ammo.

I was addressing those here who act offended by corruption only when it negatively affects their political scoreboarding.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:52 AM

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:53 AM

I was addressing those here who act offended by corruption only when it negatively affects their political scoreboarding.I spend eight years bitching about Obama, and this is what I get.

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:54 AM

Nor does yours, yet you're still here, posting.

Posting isn't the issue. You're wailing about something like the future of a free society depends on you being heard, like you have some message that really needs to go out. You're just acting as a repeater for political shills. It comes across as noise.

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:56 AM

I spend eight years bitching about Obama, and this is what I get.

This is the "fair and balanced" card I mentioned earlier.

Do you think an electorate who allows favorable partisan corruption deserves honesty?

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:56 AM

Posting isn't the issue. You're wailing about something like the future of a free society depends on you being heard, like you have some message that really needs to go out. You're just acting as a repeater for political shills. It comes across as noise.I don't think anything depends on my posting here.

Who do you think I'm carrying water for?

Who are you carrying water for?

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:57 AM

Do you think an electorate who allows favorable partisan corruption deserves honesty?Yes.

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:57 AM

sorry, corruptly defaming a supreme court nomination is a political fucking issue per se.

FIFY

DMC

11-10-2018, 10:58 AM

I don't think anything depends on my posting here.

Who do you think I'm carrying water for?

Who are you carrying water for?

What is your goal?

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 10:59 AM

FIFYYour intellectual dishonesty is showing.

You've got no evidence that Catherine Blasey Ford was being untruthful or had any corrupt intention.

She just had a bad case.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:00 AM

What is your goal?I dump shit here so I don't bore my friends to death. It's a way to make my thoughts a little clearer, before I get rid of them.

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:01 AM

It's just one example in countless examples. You only see the red ones. Some here only see the blue ones. The fact that half of the voting population is content to allow it as long as it benefits them directly is why it doesn't move me. It's not a political issue, it's an overall integrity issue. We're fucked and unfuckable. You ranting about it changes nothing.

sorry, corruptly influencing an election is a political fucking issue per se.

Here you moved the goalpost again. This is your number one go to move in the paint. It's just emotive jargon designed to get emotional support without considering to what you're actually responding to.

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:03 AM

I dump shit here so I don't bore my friends to death. It's a way to make my thoughts a little clearer, before I get rid of them.

Ok, then... YEAH!.. FUCK RICK SCOTT! Corrupt faggot.

Goddamn I cannot believe corruption exists in this country in this day and age, especially in politics, especially during elections. This is America!

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:03 AM

What is your goal?Who are you carrying water for?

Whose agenda are you mindlessly repeating?

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:04 AM

Here you moved the goalpost again. This is your number one go to move in the paint. It's just emotive jargon designed to get emotional support without considering to what you're actually responding to.Half the voting population being willing to allow corruption is a political issue too.

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:04 AM

Your intellectual dishonesty is showing.

You've got no evidence that Catherine Blasey Ford was being untruthful or had any corrupt intention.

She just had a bad case.

That's not how burden of proof works. I'm sure you know that. What evidence do you have that Rick Scott is being untruthful?

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:05 AM

Ok, then... YEAH!.. FUCK RICK SCOTT! Corrupt faggot.

Goddamn I cannot believe corruption exists in this country in this day and age, especially in politics, especially during elections. This is America!I can believe it, I just don't like it.

I'm not sure what politics bulletin boards on sports related sites are for, if not making mundane observations about current events.

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:06 AM

Who are you carrying water for?

Whose agenda are you mindlessly repeating?

Truth, justice and the American way.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:06 AM

That's not how burden of proof works. I'm sure you know that. What evidence do you have that Rick Scott is being untruthful?He sicced investigators on his own election. They found zero complaints.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:07 AM

Truth, justice and the American way.yeah, me too

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:07 AM

I can believe it, I just don't like it.

I'm not sure what politics bulletin boards on sports related sites are for, if not making mundane observations about current events.

And I can point out the fact that this shit will only get worse as the electorate becomes more polarized and willing to accept it as long as it favors them. This is something you've danced around, choosing instead to cite random examples of it instead of addressing the underlying cause.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:09 AM

I've pointed out oodles of corruption that had nothing to do my own political predilections. On this board.

You only see what pisses you off, and paint me with that brush.

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:10 AM

He sicced investigators on his own election. They found zero complaints.

That's not evidence. It's lack of evidence. FBI found zero evidence to corroborate Ford's accusations. Still, the dems voted against him right down party lines minus the normal maverick attention whores.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:11 AM

It's a problem that people look the other way when their side benefits.

Should all complaints of political corruption be ignored because everyone complaining is a hypocrite?

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:12 AM

That's not evidence. It's lack of evidence. FBI found zero evidence to corroborate Ford's accusations. Still, the dems voted against him right down party lines minus the normal maverick attention whores.they've got constituencies to face; Kavanaugh doesn't.

Th'Pusher

11-10-2018, 11:12 AM

The fraud complaint is illogical. If this were an elaborate fraud scheme then I’m pretty sure they’d be able to know how many fake votes they intended to count and could give a number, this is a simple case of incompetent government employees.

There’s a good chance the incompetent government employee is rmt writing a flawed cobol program.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:13 AM

That's not evidence. It's lack of evidence. FBI found zero evidence to corroborate Ford's accusations. Still, the dems voted against him right down party lines minus the normal maverick attention whores.I agree that the evidentiary basis of Rick Scott's complaint resembles CBF's. Nil.

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:14 AM

This is the "fair and balanced" card I mentioned earlier.

Do you think an electorate who allows favorable partisan corruption deserves honesty?

Yes.

So you don't believe in justice.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:15 AM

I believe voters deserve the bona fide service of their representatives regardless of their personal character.

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:15 AM

I agree that the evidentiary basis of Rick Scott's complaint resembles CBF's. Nil.

Yet the dems considered it good enough for a no vote and to claim they believed her, and protesters out front acted like they were certain she was raped, and the liberal news media toed that line. Did you cry foul?

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:16 AM

I believe voters deserve the bona fide service of their representatives.

Only if it benefits their side though, so rules of engagement are "anything goes" as long as your side is benefited. Cry foul if it's used against you?

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:17 AM

Yet the dems considered it good enough for a no vote and to claim they believed her, and protesters out front acted like they were certain she was raped, and the liberal news media toed that line. Did you cry foul?It's not an abuse of power to make committee votes based on politicized BS.

Indeed, it's the way it's commonly done. Senators vote their conscience, or whatever they say their conscience is. No evidence is necessary or even required for that.

ducks

11-10-2018, 11:19 AM

They have to have penalties for this
Fines of jail
They just can not break the laws and have no penalities

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:19 AM

Only if it benefits their side though, so rules of engagement are "anything goes" as long as your side is benefited. Cry foul if it's used against you?Complaining is legit.

Call a foul if you think there was a foul.

In Kavanaugh's case, even had he not been confirmed, DJT would have gotten another bite at the apple. Next one in the pipeline might even have been more conservative.

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:20 AM

It's not an abuse of power to make committee votes based on politicized BS.

Indeed, it's the way it's commonly done.

If you allow dishonesty for political gain, you're going to get dishonesty that doesn't favor you, eventually. It's just the law of the jungle.

This is why I say an electorate who allows favorable corruption doesn't deserve honesty. We aren't children.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:22 AM

fine.

you argue for the law of the jungle, and I'll argue for a constitutional republic

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:23 AM

Complaining is legit.

Call a foul if you think there was a foul.

In Kavanaugh's case, even had he not been confirmed, DJT would have gotten another bite at the apple. Next one in the pipeline might even have been more conservative.

This is just a red herring.

Did you cry foul? You said the two cases are similar. You're crying foul here.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:23 AM

DMC now pearl clutching over dishonesty in politics.

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:24 AM

fine.

you argue for the law of the jungle, and I'll argue for a constitutional republic

You'll get the law of the jungle regardless what you name it. If you allow your kid to be a thief as long as you get money from it, one day he'll steal from you. Don't expect anyone to give a shit when you cry about it.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:25 AM

This is just a red herring.

Did you cry foul? You said the two cases are similar. You're crying foul here.I said the evidentiary basis is similar; the contexts differ.

a private citizen knocking the reputation of a judicial nominee isn't an abuse of political power; Rick Scott and DJT putting their thumb on the election scale by prevaricating about fraud certainly is.

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:25 AM

DMC now pearl clutching over dishonesty in politics.

That's it, use your buzzwords. You're making a difference.

Oddly you're the one pearl clutching here over Rick Scott. I'm just pointing out the selective nature of your concerns.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:26 AM

You'll get the law of the jungle regardless what you name it. If you allow your kid to be a thief as long as you get money from it, one day he'll steal from you. Don't expect anyone to give a shit when you cry about it.Utter philosophical abstraction.

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:28 AM

Utter philosophical abstraction.

You said you thought corrupt electorate deserves honesty.

You used circular reasoning to explain why.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:30 AM

You said you thought corrupt electorate deserves honesty.

You used circular reasoning to explain why.You're acting like we can't have a government of men, because we're not all angels.

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:30 AM

You're acting like we can't have a government of men, because we're not all angels.

You act like we'll get a government of men without acting like men.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 11:34 AM

not sure what you mean

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:38 AM

If we continue to expect honesty from the opposing viewpoint side while allowing dishonesty on our own, we'll never have the government you speak of. People have to police their own base, but it's not happening. It's anything goes for the big win... anything.

benefactor

11-10-2018, 11:43 AM

They have to have penalties for this
Fines of jail
They just can not break the laws and have no penalities
Adults are discussing things. Go shit in your hands and smear it on the wall somewhere else.

Will Hunting

11-10-2018, 11:44 AM

Can someone cliff notes this DMC/Winehole exchange? I don’t feel like reading through it.

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:46 AM

Can someone cliff notes this DMC/Winehole exchange? I don’t feel like reading through it.

Winehole: Corruption in Florida
DMC: Ya but Kavanaugh

Reck

11-10-2018, 11:48 AM

So basically Winehole has you over a barrel.

Th'Pusher

11-10-2018, 11:48 AM

So basically Winehole has you over a barrel.

Yep

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:48 AM

So basically Winehole has you over a barrel.

Go with that

benefactor

11-10-2018, 11:50 AM

So basically Winehole has you over a barrel.
He's landed some fairly solid body shots to DMC's doughy frame for sure

DMC

11-10-2018, 11:51 AM

These scorecard posts also fall along partisan lines. Thanks for making my point for me.

Th'Pusher

11-10-2018, 12:25 PM

These scorecard posts also fall along partisan lines. Thanks for making my point for me.

And because we’re internet partisans The abuse of power to influence elections should be expected.

Great point!

DMC

11-10-2018, 12:39 PM

And because we’re internet partisans The abuse of power to influence elections should be expected.

Great point!

If you turn a blind eye to your own camp's transgressions, you deserve it.

tbh, you could just have a blue flag next to your user name and no one would need to ask your opinion on any political topic. It's like asking a Lakers fan about Kobe's chucking

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 01:15 PM

POTUS and state governors pull some tinpot style disinfo regarding elections (Rick Scott actually sicced the cops on his own contest) and all DMC can say is, deal with it you hypocrites.

pgardn

11-10-2018, 01:18 PM

Your next salient point shall be your first.

You got called on an absolutely stupid comparison .
You refused to own it and then continue your walk of contrived excuses.

Keep going, the entertainment level is rising for me.
Default snowflake response to something totally unrelated : Kavanaugh!
Then claim you don’t understand yet respond by showing you do understand but you made a horrible argument

Spurs Homer

11-10-2018, 01:21 PM

That's not evidence. It's lack of evidence. FBI found zero evidence to corroborate Ford's accusations. Still, the dems voted against him right down party lines minus the normal maverick attention whores.

FBI was handcuffed/sham investigation.
You know this too. Dishonest.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 01:23 PM

you're not helping, Spurs Homer.

please stop.

Winehole23

11-10-2018, 01:24 PM

please take up the Kavanaugh BS in the dedicated thread.

don't fall for DMC's attempted conflation: it's a category error.

Spurs Homer

11-10-2018, 01:38 PM

please take up the Kavanaugh BS in the dedicated thread.

don't fall for DMC's attempted conflation: it's a category error.

lol -

fair enough

DMC

11-10-2018, 02:48 PM

You got called on an absolutely stupid comparison .
You refused to own it and then continue your walk of contrived excuses.

Keep going, the entertainment level is rising for me.
Default snowflake response to something totally unrelated : Kavanaugh!
Then claim you don’t understand yet respond by showing you do understand but you made a horrible argument

Still waiting for that first one...

DMC

11-10-2018, 02:51 PM

POTUS and state governors pull some tinpot style disinfo regarding elections (Rick Scott actually sicced the cops on his own contest) and all DMC can say is, deal with it you hypocrites.

You said dishonest people deserve honesty. I believe you get what you give. It's all a dog and pony show. Regardless who is eventually declared winner, Florida will still be a shit show. It was a shit show 18 years ago and it's a shit show now. Nothing changed.

ducks

11-10-2018, 03:13 PM

Adults are discussing things. Go shit in your hands and smear it on the wall somewhere else.

Why you typing then ?

LkrFan

11-10-2018, 03:18 PM

Why you typing then ?

1061350530537017344

:)

koriwhat

11-10-2018, 03:54 PM

FBI was handcuffed/sham investigation.
You know this too. Dishonest.

hancuffed 7 times.... lmao! yall are just so hard up to believe the left's make believe world in which you think we all want to live in.

koriwhat

11-10-2018, 03:56 PM

1061350530537017344

:)

so you call white men who support djt racists... hmm... i doubt you know anything about gillum except his skin tone, so what's that make you?

CosmicCowboy

11-10-2018, 04:35 PM

so you call white men who support djt racists... hmm... i doubt you know anything about gillum except his skin tone, so what's that make you?

He is just a troll. He can't really be that stupid.

koriwhat

11-10-2018, 04:37 PM

He is just a troll. He can't really be that stupid.

i'd like to believe you CC but i think lkrfan is indeed that stupid.

Chris

11-10-2018, 04:38 PM

He is just a troll. He can't really be that stupid.

A hardcore Lefty from Los Angeles might appear to be a troll, but the reality is they are dead f'n serious :lol

LkrFan

11-10-2018, 04:40 PM

so you call white men who support djt racists... hmm... i doubt you know anything about gillum except his skin tone, so what's that make you?

:lol

LkrFan

11-10-2018, 04:40 PM

A hardcore Lefty from Los Angeles might appear to be a troll, but the reality is they are dead f'n serious :lol

:lmao

koriwhat

11-10-2018, 04:41 PM

:lol

my point has been proven. thanks :tu

boutons_deux

11-10-2018, 04:44 PM

Can someone cliff notes this DMC/Winehole exchange? I don’t feel like reading through it.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/S2a3xYDeV5jdC/giphy.gif?cid=3640f6095be7510476436c5a45f208c3

CosmicCowboy

11-10-2018, 04:47 PM

A hardcore Lefty from Los Angeles might appear to be a troll, but the reality is they are dead f'n serious :lol

Meh. I doubt he is from LA, just a LeBron band wagon dick suckin troll.

boutons_deux

11-10-2018, 05:38 PM

Florida orders vote recount in Senate, governor races as Trump rages from overseas

President Donald Trump has

accused Democratic election officials in Florida’s Broward and Palm Beach Counties of corruption, without providing any evidence.

“Trying to STEAL two big elections in Florida! We are watching closely!”

Trump wrote on Twitter on Saturday during a visit to France.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/florida-orders-vote-recount-senate-governor-races-trump-rages-overseas/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

rmt

11-10-2018, 06:23 PM

There’s a good chance the incompetent government employee is rmt writing a flawed cobol program.

Hahaha - I'm sure you'd get a laugh from watching me in a Visual Studio class on Friday - totally lost when I look at the extensions and realize I don't code in any of those languages :-) SQL is nice though - so quick compared to Easytrieve or COBOL.

BD24

11-11-2018, 01:30 AM

Kori calling anyone stupid. He has to be the most sensitive retard on the site

Will Hunting

11-11-2018, 09:47 AM

Kori calling anyone stupid. He has to be the most sensitive retard on the site
He’s the Ziggy Sobotka of Spurstalk.

Trill Clinton

11-11-2018, 10:32 AM

He’s the Ziggy Sobotka of Spurstalk.

Accurate

Chris

11-11-2018, 09:44 PM

1061794181167763456

AaronY

11-11-2018, 09:48 PM

1061794181167763456
you see that idiotic tweet he had to delete yesterday? lmao

Pavlov

11-11-2018, 09:48 PM

1061794181167763456:lol did they all vote, Chris?

Yes or no.

boutons_deux

11-11-2018, 11:20 PM

Chris

11-12-2018, 03:11 AM

1061848571681611776

Chris

11-12-2018, 03:12 AM

1061834731493474304

ElNono

11-12-2018, 04:23 AM

In before Soros... oh fuck

Will Hunting

11-12-2018, 05:57 AM

Glad to see Soros is calling in the big guns to make sure that both FL races end up where we want them.

Reck

11-12-2018, 10:40 AM

Glad to see Soros is calling in the big guns to make sure that both FL races end up where we want them.

I like how everything that goes sideways is Soros fault. Its almost as if they admire incompetency....oh wait they do. :lol Trumpers

Seems to me Soros cant get anything done right because he's always late with his evil plots.

Winehole23

11-12-2018, 10:52 AM

1061794181167763456five one hundredths of one percent of voters statewide.

Winehole23

11-12-2018, 10:57 AM

if you can prove those dead people all cast votes and all voted the same way, that would probably be fraud.

but as it is, all you got is hand waving about sloppy voter rolls

Will Hunting

11-12-2018, 10:58 AM

I like how everything that goes sideways is Soros fault. Its almost as if they admire incompetency....oh wait they do. :lol Trumpers

Seems to me Soros cant get anything done right because he's always late with his evil plots.
Still trying to figure out how the almighty Soros wasn’t able to swing 70k votes across Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin :lol

pgardn

11-12-2018, 11:40 AM

Still waiting for that first one...

I hope I can keep you waiting.
And posting...

DMC

11-12-2018, 11:42 AM

clambake

11-12-2018, 01:05 PM

uh oh, there are black people handling the ballots.

how can this be legit?

Winehole23

11-12-2018, 01:16 PM

Florida accepts overseas/military ballots up to ten days after the election, if they were postmarked by election day.

Y'all sure you want to cut the process short?

LkrFan

11-12-2018, 01:21 PM

1061834731493474304

1062036915090870272
:)

LkrFan

11-12-2018, 01:32 PM

1062048657736978434
:)

boutons_deux

11-12-2018, 01:33 PM

Florida accepts overseas/military ballots up to ten days after the election, if they were postmarked by election day.

Y'all sure you want to cut the process short?

that's exactly what Trash tweeted, kill US military votes.

boutons_deux

11-12-2018, 01:37 PM

‘The sitting Florida Governor is seeking to throw out lawful votes and seize the voting equipment’ (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/11/1812054/--The-sitting-Florida-Governor-is-seeking-to-throw-out-lawful-votes-and-seize-the-voting-equipment)

Marc E. Elias
✔@marceelias
(https://twitter.com/marceelias)
Lets be clear about what we are witnessing in Florida:

The sitting Governor is seeking to throw out lawful votes and

seize the voting equipment in order to win an election.

=========

Plaintiff, Rick Scott for Florida, sues Defendant, Dr. Brenda C. Snipes, in her official capacity as the Broward County, Florida Supervisor of Elections (“Supervisor of Elections”), and alleges as follows:

1. This an action for emergency injunctive relief to impound and preserve all voting machines, tallying devices, and ballots, pursuant to Article I, Section 24 of the Florida Constitution, and Chapters 101 and 102 (the “Election Code”), and Chapter 119 (the “Public Records Act”) of the Florida Statutes pending the completion of any recounts, election contests, or litigation related to the 2018 general election for the office of United States Senator for Florida.

Scott wants the court to side with him and impound voting machines!

Marc E. Elias
(https://twitter.com/marceelias)✔@marceelias
(https://twitter.com/marceelias)
(https://twitter.com/marceelias)BREAKING:

In Florida Gov Scott's campaign has now filed a motion

to seize (impound) the voting equipment in Palm Beach and Broward Counties.

http://bit.ly/2OFTz2u (https://t.co/SYNkgyZN9s)

I suppose his last stunt--to send in state law enforcement didn't work out as expected (hint: they found no fraud).

2:55 PM - Nov 11, 2018 (https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1061724007358115840)

=================

Why hasn’t the sitting Governor recused himself from the recount?

Recounts are done all the time.

There’s a recount process and Scott wants to end this process prematurely.

The corruption here is breathtaking.

Rick Scott is scared he will lose the recount and let’s be honest here, Republicans don’t want people to vote or their votes to be counted.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/11/1812054/--The-sitting-Florida-Governor-is-seeking-to-throw-out-lawful-votes-and-seize-the-voting-equipment

Goddamn, you Repugs are cheating, slimey pieces of SHIT

Winehole23

11-12-2018, 01:41 PM

Republican posters: switch talking points to "count every vote"

1062027617493245952

Winehole23

11-12-2018, 01:42 PM

only 147 votes, far from enough to make any difference, but still, email voting is 100% illegal in FL.

boutons_deux

11-12-2018, 01:48 PM

The FL (again!), and nationwide, disgusting bullshit voting fiasco, is

the Best America Can Do

to exemplify DEMOCRACY at its most rigorous.

boutons_deux

11-12-2018, 01:52 PM

As Nation Observes Veterans Day, Trump Calls for Blocking Military Votes

Donald J. Trump
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)

The Florida Election should be called in favor of Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis

in that large numbers of new ballots showed up out of nowhere, :lol

and many ballots are missing or forged. :lol

An honest vote count :lol

is no longer possible-ballots massively infected.

Must go with Election Night!

(https://twitter.com/intent/like?tweet_id=1061962869376540672)6:44 AM - Nov 12, 2018 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1061962869376540672)

“Florida accepts overseas/military ballots through Nov. 16, (provided they were postmarked by Nov. 6),” Blake noted.

“The president is effectively calling for the disenfranchisement of military service-members … the day after Veteran’s Day.”

The timing of Trump’s stop-the-counting interjection–on Veterans Day (observed)–

highlights the optics of

a president arguing against counting all the votes under the rules established by the Sunshine State itself.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/as-nation-observes-veterans-day-trump-calls-for-blocking-military-votes/ (https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/as-nation-observes-veterans-day-trump-calls-for-blocking-military-votes/)

An honest vote :lol no longer possible, so let's go with a stolen, dishonest vote, AGAIN

Winehole23

11-12-2018, 03:54 PM

it's not just about the vets, boutons.

essentially, DJT is saying Florida election laws should be set aside, counting should be stopped, and (partial) election night returns on TV should be honored.

because Republicans might lose.

Reck

11-12-2018, 03:57 PM

Winehole23

11-12-2018, 04:09 PM

he's disappointed TV election returns and the real ones do not match, so he demands reality adjust to make what he saw on TV true.

Winehole23

11-12-2018, 04:40 PM

but really, this:

1062036091790856192

ducks

11-12-2018, 06:58 PM

If people in charge of election can not obey the law
Have a court order and do not obey it
Then they should never ever be allowed to be in charge of counting again !

ducks

11-12-2018, 06:59 PM

but really, this:

1062036091790856192

Lol the democracts do not care what the law says and just says every vote should count
Even if it got in after what law says

ducks

11-12-2018, 07:00 PM

Up to which point? Bill Nelson led for a good bit of the night.

Trump is beyond a joke.

Trump joking the USA in a much better place then the last 5 presidents

ducks

11-12-2018, 07:01 PM

[QUOTE=boutons_deux;9595741]Palm Beach County official admits ‘it’s impossible to finish counting’ Florida ballots by the Thursday deadline

[URL]https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/palm-beach-county-official-admits-impossible-finish-counting-florida-ballots-thursday-deadline/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29[/URL

FL, a Repug purposedly MISgoverned shit hole[/QUOTE
Why
To busy trying to find votes ?

Chris

11-12-2018, 07:32 PM

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AaronY

11-12-2018, 07:35 PM

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Chris

11-12-2018, 07:40 PM

^ keep spamming your meme like a good NPC

Reck

11-12-2018, 07:45 PM

^ keep spamming your meme like a good NPC

:lol Using video game terms. Pleb :lol

Will Hunting

11-12-2018, 07:45 PM

Lol the democracts do not care what the law says and just says every vote should count
Even if it got in after what law says
From a constitutional perspective yes, I’d readily admit that I would always lean towards counting a legitimate vote as oppose to getting it thrown out on a technicality.

AaronY

11-12-2018, 07:50 PM

^ keep spamming your meme like a good NPC
That reminds me..what happened with that time you were banned from twitter for bot like behavior lmao? dont try to memory hole that one too now like you did the parents watching maddow thing

Fabbs

11-12-2018, 08:59 PM

:lol did they all vote, Chris?

Yes or no.
Illegals wouldn't vote because it's illegal. -Chumplov.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973

Pavlov

11-12-2018, 09:07 PM

Illegals wouldn't vote because it's illegal. -Chumplov.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973
Great, tell us all about this study and their methodology.

I look forward to discussing this with you, Fabbs.

Will Hunting

11-12-2018, 09:09 PM

That reminds me..what happened with that time you were banned from twitter for bot like behavior lmao? dont try to memory hole that one too now like you did the parents watching maddow thing
:cry fuck you, dad :cry

Chris

11-12-2018, 09:13 PM

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Pavlov

11-12-2018, 09:15 PM

1062155934909321219What's your conspiracy theory here, Chris?

Chris

11-12-2018, 09:31 PM

What's your conspiracy theory here, Chris?

I'm thinking he shot himself in the head and walked 3 blocks away knowing the police would only search in a 2 block radius. He then made his way back to the beach and died peacefully.

AaronY

11-12-2018, 09:33 PM

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omg! inside job/with all the false flags! the liberal murders are coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!! etc

AaronY

11-12-2018, 09:33 PM

:cry fuck you, dad :cry
Did you hear about Chris getting banned from twitter? he really did tbh. he said it was for "bot like behavior" lmao

Pavlov

11-12-2018, 09:34 PM

I'm thinking he shot himself in the head and walked 3 blocks away knowing the police would only search in a 2 block radius. He then made his way back to the beach and died peacefully.What are you talking about?

None of that is in the report, Chris.

Dude shot himself at the beach.

Show your source and explain your conspiracy theory.

ducks

11-12-2018, 09:43 PM

Lol already a recall page
Yes Arizona allows that
Mccally Jeff flake in a dress

Spurs Homer

11-12-2018, 09:46 PM

Repugs suddenly are against election meddling
Suddenly- elections are sacred!

Will Hunting

11-12-2018, 09:50 PM

Did you hear about Chris getting banned from twitter? he really did tbh. he said it was for "bot like behavior" lmao
Did you hear about when he admitted in the NFL forum that he lived at home with daddeh :lol

AaronY

11-12-2018, 09:53 PM

Did you hear about when he admitted in the NFL forum that he lived at home with daddeh :lol
lol no but so perfect. living with his Maddow loving daddy lol

Will Hunting

11-12-2018, 09:56 PM

lol no but so perfect. living with his Maddow loving daddy lol
Just imagine him yelling shit at his dad from his room

:madrun dad I need your fucking credit card to renew my infowars subscription :madrun

Reck

11-12-2018, 09:57 PM

Just imagine him yelling shit at his dad from his room

:madrun dad I need your fucking credit card to renew my infowars subscription :madrun

Chris: MOM, where the fuck is the Vanity Fair magazine?

ducks

11-12-2018, 09:57 PM

Lawyers for Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum and U.S. Senate candidate Bill Nelson fought on Friday to allow a non-citizen's vote to count in the state's election races

Pavlov

11-12-2018, 10:03 PM

Lawyers for Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum and U.S. Senate candidate Bill Nelson fought on Friday to allow a non-citizen's vote to count in the state's election races

“The lawyer who was present was not someone we had authorized to make such an objection. Noncitizens cannot vote in U.S. elections," Marc Elias, recount attorney for the Nelson campaign, said in a statement.

Wow!

spurraider21

11-12-2018, 10:10 PM

Chris: MOM, where the fuck is the Vanity Fair magazine?
Mom: Chris, why are my Vanity Fair pages all sticky?

AaronY

11-12-2018, 10:12 PM

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Chris

11-12-2018, 11:10 PM

This might be brilliant strategy for Trump and the rest of the base. Let the Dems show their hand and it will set precedent for voter ID laws. Rope a dope.

Spurminator

11-12-2018, 11:23 PM

Just imagine him yelling shit at his dad from his room

:madrun dad I need your fucking credit card to renew my infowars subscription :madrun

How much of dad's money did he spend on Alex Jones approved Manhood Pills, do you think?

Reck

11-12-2018, 11:56 PM

This might be brilliant strategy for Trump and the rest of the base. Let the Dems show their hand and it will set precedent for voter ID laws. Rope a dope.

TSA-esque.

You people are fucking retarded. Everything has to be a super duper secret plan. Rofl

DMC

11-13-2018, 12:02 AM

TSA-esque.

You people are fucking retarded. Everything has to be a super duper secret plan. Rofl

Like Trump colluding with the Russians? :lol

Reck

11-13-2018, 12:07 AM

Like Trump colluding with the Russians? :lol

its been...investigated right now by legit people within the FBI and DOJ. Not even close to a comparison.

Keep trying fat man.

ducks

11-13-2018, 12:17 AM

This better finish so pop can coach

DMC

11-13-2018, 12:24 AM

its been...investigated right now by legit people within the FBI and DOJ. Not even close to a comparison.

Keep trying fat man.

So as long as it's being investigated, it wasn't super secret?

ElNono

11-13-2018, 05:08 AM

Still trying to figure out how the almighty Soros wasn’t able to swing 70k votes across Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin :lol

I just hopped on the Soros cross-country bus, tbh, also voted in Florida and Arizona a day later with my fake Mexican passport.

rmt

11-13-2018, 05:25 AM

Palm Beach County official admits ‘it’s impossible to finish counting’ Florida ballots by the Thursday deadline

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/palm-beach-county-official-admits-impossible-finish-counting-florida-ballots-thursday-deadline/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

FL, a Repug purposedly MISgoverned shit hole

If the biggest county (Miami-Dade) can count their votes in a timely manner, I don't see why Palm Beach and Broward Counties can't - other than incompetency up there.