Russell Wilson

[JohnnyD]

2018 Regular Season NFL Leaders




RK
PLAYER
PTS ADDED (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/qbpaa)
PASS (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/cwepaPassesCondensed)
RUN (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/cwepaRuns)
PENALTY (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/cwepaPenalties)
TOTAL EPA (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/cwepaTotal)
QB PLAYS (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/actionPlays)
RAW QBR (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/qbr)
TOTAL QBR (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/order/false)


1
Drew Brees (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/2580/drew-brees), NO
49.0
59.3
4.4
2.4
71.7
347
88.1
86.2


2
Patrick Mahomes (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3139477/patrick-mahomes), KC
52.5
60.6
9.8
1.8
78.2
432
84.8
83.6


3
Philip Rivers (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/5529/philip-rivers), LAC
25.6
38.0
0.0
0.5
43.5
311
76.2
75.5


4
Mitchell Trubisky (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3039707/mitchell-trubisky), CHI
27.7
23.8
17.5
2.9
53.0
379
73.7
75.3


5
Jared Goff (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3046779/jared-goff), LAR
32.2
50.0
0.4
3.4
61.2
397
75.9
75.0


6
Ben Roethlisberger (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/5536/ben-roethlisberger), PIT
31.9
49.6
5.8
2.6
62.4
423
74.4
72.8


7
Matt Ryan (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/11237/matt-ryan), ATL
31.7
42.7
3.5
4.5
62.2
424
74.2
71.3


8
Ryan Fitzpatrick (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/8664/ryan-fitzpatrick), TB
16.5
25.3
2.6
0.6
33.1
281
69.6
69.9


9
Andrew Luck (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/14874/andrew-luck), IND
24.6
45.6
2.5
2.6
55.2
428
69.3
69.3


10
Carson Wentz (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/2573079/carson-wentz), PHI
17.6
25.8
4.7
2.6
43.5
331
68.0
66.6


RK
PLAYER
PTS ADDED (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/qbpaa)
PASS (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/cwepaPassesCondensed)
RUN (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/cwepaRuns)
PENALTY (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/cwepaPenalties)
TOTAL EPA (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/cwepaTotal)
QB PLAYS (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/actionPlays)
RAW QBR (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/sort/qbr)
TOTAL QBR (http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/order/false)


11
Tom Brady (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/2330/tom-brady), NE
15.6
32.4
3.6
2.6
45.7
416
62.9
65.9


12
Kirk Cousins (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/14880/kirk-cousins), MIN
19.0
42.2
-3.5
0.5
48.1
429
65.1
64.7


13
Andy Dalton (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/14012/andy-dalton), CIN
15.1
29.3
0.0
3.7
42.7
371
64.0
61.5


14
Cam Newton (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/13994/cam-newton), CAR
16.1
31.6
7.5
-1.0
44.0
400
63.8
61.1


15
Marcus Mariota (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/2576980/marcus-mariota), TEN
6.4
13.0
4.8
2.7
30.3
287
57.8
61.1


16
Deshaun Watson (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3122840/deshaun-watson), HOU
11.3
21.8
4.6
2.8
42.1
389
60.2
58.9


17
Russell Wilson (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/14881/russell-wilson), SEA
7.8
15.8
3.9
-0.6
32.0
323
58.5
58.4




Right now he's a middle of the pack but so is Aaron Rodgers.

Now how many above him have played in two SB's? How many have led the NFL in TD passes (34)? How many have led the NFL with QB Rating (110.1) How many have played in more pro bowls? How many have been ranked as high as number 11 best NFL player? How many have more rushing yards for a career? How many have a higher QB rating for a career? How many hold at least 4 NFL records?

Who compares to this for a career.

Comp % 64.2
Three times as many TD's as INT's
QB rating 99.7

Who compares to this?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjG1leiPppY


He is in his 7th season. Now Google any QB ya want, Slingin' Sammy, Otto, Bobby Layne, Sid, Johnny U, Bradshaw, Montana, Marino, Elway, Favre, Big Ben, Brees, Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, whoever and compare their first six season (this one not over) talking stats, playoff success, rushing, NFL records, who did it better?

2018

But where is the love for Russell Wilson? He’s throwing more touchdowns per attempt (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018//passing.htm) than every other quarterback. Yes, that’s more than Rivers, Goff, Luck, Brees, Ryan, Brady, Rodgers, you name ’em. Mind you, this is after he had a bad week, throwing just two touchdowns (and that awful pick six (https://12thmanrising.com/2018/11/05/seahawks-grades-versus-chargers/)) in 39 attempts. Before Sunday’s game, Wilson was scoring on 8.8 percent of his throws. Pretty sweet for a guy who’s getting zero national love.

His season average for a career.....27td/6int.

Now don't ignore the video and comparing what others have done compared to Wilson and come in lazy, do what I do spend the time, do the work know what you are talking about, ok?

Clipper Nation anyone bragging on Derek "INT" Anderson*** and Tom "Waived" Savage needs to just read, ok?

*** 60TD/64INT

[JohnnyD]

Here's how it will go.

If Wilson has a great game tomorrow night .....crickets.

BUT....if he sucks here ya come, ha!!!!

STILL...can't figure out one game means little, this stuff is done by seasons not games. After the season is over THEN it's time evaluate. RW has had a fantastic first six seasons, nobody has ever done better.

[spurraider21]

i thought you were going to stop with the annoying shit

[Darth_Pelican]

i thought you were going to stop with the annoying shit

You didn't actually believe a pathological liar, did you?

[JohnnyD]

i thought you were going to stop with the annoying shit

When you enter others threads looking to pester/annoy is what I was talking about, disrupting the flow. Nobody has to enter this thread which is a very legit well thought out serious football thread.

It's annoying to enter a Russell Wilson thread, how?

[JohnnyD]

You didn't actually believe a pathological liar, did you?


I don't see talking Russell Wilson as being annoying. Or telling the truth.

Why you always so..GRRRRRRR, Enjoy yourself talk some football.

[Clipper Nation]

this thread which is a very legit well thought out serious football thread.
:lmao

[JohnnyD]

:lmao

I know it can't compare to your Derek Anderson should replace Cam Newton or your thread about Tom Savage as the best QB in Texas............PERIOD. I do the best I can however.

[JohnnyD]

I do expect to hear....

How does he do that?

Magical.

Classic Russell Wilson.

Did I just see that?

Sorta stuff tonight talking about Russell Wilson.

[JohnnyD]

Tonight

Comp% 67.7
TD/INT 2/0
Rating 110.3

On the season....

66.2
23/5
110.2

Boy, if that's a....struggle....we need to find a new definition for the word.

You are watching the greatest first seven seasons QB in NFL history. And I challenge anyone to find somebody who did it better. Keep in mind the guy never sat on a bench, he walked right in and took off.

What amazes me is how can anyone who follows pro football not see this, how is that possible? You see him in five pro bowls, you've seen him in Superbowls. Anytime talk of the top QB's today there he is. The guy owns at least 4 NFL records. He has a cute wife,$$$$$$$, a SB ring, respect of the players who rated him the 11th best player in the NFL last season........that is a struggle.....??????

Come on people, sheesh!




Tom Brady for a career

Comp % 64
QB rating 97.5

Wilson

64.2
99.7

[JohnnyD]

I don't think most get who Tyler Lockett really is.

He didn't do much his first two seasons at KSU.

Then...

junior 81/1262/11
senior 106/1515/11

The guy is a legit receiver, not some return guy getting a shot at WR.

Getting back to Wilson.



Russell Wilson is Unlimited in the fourth quarter

It’s no surprise to anyone that follows the Seahawks that Russell Wilson is the king of the fourth quarter. His career passer rating is 98.8, second in NFL history behind Aaron Rodgers. In the fourth quarter, Wilson really heats up. First, let’s look at the competition. Because I know you’re wondering, Brady’s fourth quarter rating is 94.5. That’s pretty impressive, until you see that Aaron Rodgers’ rating in the fourth is 103.4. Which pales compared to Mr. Unlimited. His career passer rating for the final quarter is 109.5. In overtime it’s an unworldly 113.5. So stacked against the best, Russell Wilson dominates even them in the fourth quarter.
Last season was the showstopper for the Seahawks quarterback. He threw 19 touchdown passes in the fourth quarter, an all-time NFL record. Matt Ryan was second in this category last year. He threw nine touchdowns in the fourth.


How could anyone not get that?

And, he's never had a Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown etc.

Wilson owns 4 NFL records.

How could anyone not get this?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KzJ-fH9doE


Read the comments below the video.

Guy leaves Wisconsin as the all time NCAA passing leader for a season, then ties the NFL rookie TD record at 26 (Peyton). His second season he wins a SB. That was just for starters.

[spurraider21]

how about you just open up a microsoft word document and just keep a journal of all your wilson thoughts.

update it daily as if they were your posts here.

and just keep it to yourself

[JohnnyD]

how about you just open up a microsoft word document and just keep a journal of all your wilson thoughts.

update it daily as if they were your posts here.

and just keep it to yourself

How about doing what I and everyone else does, that being only enter threads that interest you. If you don't want to read about Wilson then don't, see how easy that is?

This thread is me dealing with the facts, the way things really are, that is a problem, how? The problem is all those ignoring reality with all that...struggle...silliness. When Wilson is actually fantastic as we just saw.

A lone thread on a messgeboard is a problem for you, really? Don't you have a Raiders thread? But I can't have a Russell Wilson thread.....really? Why?

[spurraider21]

How about doing what I and everyone else does, that being only enter threads that interest you. If you don't want to read about Wilson then don't, see how easy that is?

This thread is me dealing with the facts, the way things really are, that is a problem, how? The problem is all those ignoring reality with all that...struggle...silliness. When Wilson is actually fantastic as we just saw.

A lone thread on a messgeboard is a problem for you, really? Don't you have a Raiders thread? But I can't have a Russell Wilson thread.....really? Why?
you've been banned because nobody wants to read your shit at all

[Will Hunting]

How about doing what I and everyone else does, that being only enter threads that interest you. If you don't want to read about Wilson then don't, see how easy that is?

This thread is me dealing with the facts, the way things really are, that is a problem, how? The problem is all those ignoring reality with all that...struggle...silliness. When Wilson is actually fantastic as we just saw.

A lone thread on a messgeboard is a problem for you, really? Don't you have a Raiders thread? But I can't have a Russell Wilson thread.....really? Why?
It’s not just one Russell Wilson thread. You’ve made a countless number of them and you also derail other threads with long winded ramblings about Russell Wilson. I’ve never seen Spurraider derail a game thread with a entire page of random musings about the Raiders.

[JohnnyD]

you've been banned because nobody wants to read your shit at all

Then don't read it.

[spurraider21]

Then don't read it.
nobody here wants to read it.

so just use a microsoft word document and we dont have to see your shitty thread at the top of the page all the time

[JohnnyD]

It’s not just one Russell Wilson thread. You’ve made a countless number of them and you also derail other threads with long winded ramblings about Russell Wilson. I’ve never seen Spurraider derail a game thread with a entire page of random musings about the Raiders.

So just ignore.....struggle hahaha...?

[JohnnyD]

nobody here wants to read it.

so just use a microsoft word document and we dont have to see your shitty thread at the top of the page all the time

I keep things real, tell it like it really is, that's a problem?

[Will Hunting]

I keep things real, tell it like it really is, that's a problem?
:lol what do you mean you keep things real? You have tens of thousands of posts under a username that you claim was a made up personality.

[JohnnyD]

:lol what do you mean you keep things real? You have tens of thousands of posts under a username that you claim was a made up personality.

Do you see JohnnyD...

Look ya little shit, I'm 6-2 275 pounds of twisted railroad steel, who.....

Try...nope.

Why is there a problem simply telling it like it really is with Wilson? So just ignore all that crap and the running him down....why?

[spurraider21]

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[JohnnyD]

So no more Russell Wilson talk, but can talk Raiders...hmmmm?

[JohnnyD]

Tell ya what I will let this die, showing that I am serious about fitting in. So lets let this thread simply fade away.

But....how about keeping it real, ok? Everybody who watchs NFL football knows about the greatness of Russell Wilson, so why act goofy?

Ok as far I;m concerned this thread is dead.

[Clipper Nation]

So no more Russell Wilson talk, but can talk Raiders...hmmmm?
If Raiders talk had a track record of being as boring and obnoxious as your Struggle Wilson talk, nobody would want to read that either.

[Will Hunting]

So no more Russell Wilson talk, but can talk Raiders...hmmmm?
Quite frankly your writing style is obnoxious and annoying to try and follow. I don’t understand what you have against normal paragraphs and coherent sentence structure.

[Clipper Nation]

Why is there a problem simply telling it like it really is with Wilson?
Exactly - why is there a problem with correctly pointing out that he's a game manager on a stacked team?

[JohnnyD]

If Raiders talk had a track record of being as boring and obnoxious as your Struggle Wilson talk, nobody would want to read that either.

I'm simply into facts, how things really are.

[JohnnyD]

Quite frankly your writing style is obnoxious and annoying to try and follow. I don’t understand what you have against normal paragraphs and coherent sentence structure.

I hated English class, obviously.

[JohnnyD]

Exactly - why is there a problem with correctly pointing out that he's a game manager on a stacked team?

A game manager who leads the NFL in TD passes?
A game manager who leads the NFL in QB rating?
A game manager who has more TD passes in the 4th Q of a season than anyone?
A game manager who is second all time in passer rating?
A game manager who was ranked number 11 last season when it came to the best in the NFL?
Do game manages constantly make pro bowls?
A game manager who is the only QB in history to have a 4000/30/500 season?

What amazes me about you is it's as if you have never seen him play. Everybody raves about the guy, you really don't see all that...wow! Dude, you are a guy bragging on Derek Anderson, Tom Savage, so what does that tell us, yep, you don't understand this stuff.

Dude, no QB in history has ever had as impressive first 7 seasons as this guy. And if you understood any of this you'd know that.

Leaves Wisconsin as the NCAA record holder for passing in a season. Ties the NFL TD rookie record. Has a 100 QB rating his first two seasons something that had never been done before. Wins a SB in his second season, plays in another in his third.

Dude, there are books in the library about football, you need to check some out.

Google this...The great Russell Wilson....and start reading about how lost you are. Trust me NOBODY brags on Derek Anderson and Tom Savage but you.


Why so much of this?


Russell Wilson: The greatest creative force in the league today

[spurraider21]

Tell ya what I will let this die, showing that I am serious about fitting in. So lets let this thread simply fade away.

But....how about keeping it real, ok? Everybody who watchs NFL football knows about the greatness of Russell Wilson, so why act goofy?

Ok as far I;m concerned this thread is dead.

[JohnnyD]

It's rude to ignore those talking to you. If people want this thread to die then stay out of it. I won't be bumping it up.

But........why do you care what I or anyone else does? You don't have to get involved, right?

Go tell Spurtacular to cool his Blake and Reck thread which is nothing but...you suck,no you suck,you suck,no......ok?

A football forum that can't have a thread about Russell Wilson, really? But the 1-and who cares Raiders is cool....really?

As you know we a lot of Wilson haters here for some unknown reason, well I think the guy is great. Me sticking up for him is a problem? Why not tell those running him down to shut up....well?

You can have a thread about a team you like but I can't have a thread about a player I like, really guy? Do you see me in your Raiders thread.........dude, this is a terrible team why even talk about them?........nope, I respect others too much for that.

[JohnnyD]

I've changed my mind.

I will keep all my Wilson ramblings here only. I won't say shit about him anywhere else....scouts honor. So if ya don't want to read those ramblings simply don't.

If looking at a thread on a messageboard that reads......Russell Wilson....upsets you, you got some serious problems. Islamic terror, freaks with guns, a retarded president, taxes, shit rap, ok they suck......a thread title, really?

Honey....what's wrong baby, you've been moody all day?
Baby....ah....nothing.
Honey....look I know you, now what's up?
Baby...ok ok, JohnnyD,
Honey...JohnnyD?
Baby....yep, he has a Russell Wilson thread over at Spurstalk,
Honey....isn't that that place where everyone cusses and runs everybody else down?
Baby...yes, but....Russell Wilson.
Honey...why enter the thread?
Baby...it's not that it's how it just stares at me....RUSSELL WILSON.
Honey.....Baby, really? I mean like.....really?

[spurraider21]

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[JohnnyD]

Are you really that immature? Does a thread you never have to read really have this effect on you, dude that's sad.

[Clipper Nation]

I'm simply into facts, how things really are.

:lol No you're not, otherwise you wouldn't pretend Struggle's an elite quarterback.

[JohnnyD]

:lol No you're not, otherwise you wouldn't pretend Struggle's an elite quarterback.

Who has done it better in their first seven seasons? Well?

NFL records mean nothing?
Leader in TD passes means nothing?
Leader in QB rating means nothing?
Pro Bowls mean niothing?
Rated 11 as the best player means nothing?

Dude you have any how many records the guy already holds?

So who was more impressive in their first seven seasons......come n guy, who?

Now watch the guy yakyak but never come up with a name. He knows I will prove him wrong.

TONS of this sort of thing out there TONS

Few could have predicted that Russell Wilson (https://247sports.com/Player/Russell-Wilson-13737) would have the type of impact that he had immediately in the NFL.

In addition to becoming a Super Bowl champion, Wilson has become one of the most recognized quarterbacks in the game and has established himself as one of the most productive as well. Pro Football Focus broke down the quarterbacks that have achieved the most success in the fourth quarter with under five minutes remaining needing a touchdown or less.

New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady (https://247sports.com/Player/Tom-Brady-76179) obviously leads the category and many others but he is not alone as an elite operator in those circumstances. There are two quarterbacks with an 80.0 or better grade in those situations - Brady (90.5) and Wilson (82.3).

[JohnnyD]

Tell ya what, give me the name of any QB who out performed Wilson in their first seven seasons. Only stipulation is they like Wilson had to step right in and take over. And I will total close this thread out.

Who?

I am talking...

wins
comp%
rushing
yards
TD/INT
QB rating
playoff success

Why is it nobody ever comes up with the guy who did it better? Come on people do something besides.....struggle:lmao Ya can't can ya?


Why Russell Wilson is better than any other QB, the finale: The top 5 QBs in the NFL

Seahawks QB Russell Wilson has proven he's a legitimate MVP candidate


Russell Wilson sets NFL record for fourth-quarter touchdowns in a season with more late-game magic. No big deal, just more late-game wizardry from Wilson, who set the NFL record with the most fourth-quarter touchdowns in a season (16), surpassing Eli Manning's previous mark of 15 in 2011.Dec 10, 2017


Only a blind man couldn't see the greatness of Russell Wilson. Sure he's no Derek Anderson or Tom Savage, let's not get carried away.

[JohnnyD]

Wilson vs Brady

I'll ignore the fact Brady sat on a bench in his first season.

This from his second season.

Their first six seasons.

Brady

best comp %...63.9
most yards in a season...4,110
most TD's in a season...26
INT's in six seasons...78
Best passer rating.....92.6

Wlson

68.1
4,219
34....twice
57
110.1...five times he had something superior to Bradys 92.6

Will ignore rushing yards for obvious reasons.

As we can see Wilson FAR superior to Brady those first six seasons.

Joe Montana vs Wilson, trust me not even close, all Wilson.

How about Drew Brees?

Peyton Manning?

Trust meet it's not even close, go ahead check it out.

Nobody in the history of pro football ever had a better first six seasons than what we have seen from Russell Wilson. Make a liar out of me, go ahead give it a shot, trust me, it can't be done.

What about John Elway and Dan Marino? Elway is so far inferior it's comical. Marino hung close but inferior.

Those way back when guys like Unitas, Bradshaw, Tarkenton, in a whole other world. Not even worth talking about.

So who did it better than Wilson in those first six season? Well? I know.....BIG BEN.

What.....a 23 INT season? And his other stats inferior.

Who is left?

Well hell....BRET FAVRE

If I told you how many INT's he had in his first six seasons (after season one where he did nothing) you wouldn't believe me. And his other stats inferior.

Who is left?

Now anyone can check Google and see if I'm accurate, trust me I am. While there find the guy who did have a better first six seasons than Russell Wilson. You won't find him because he doesn't exist.

How many QB's have three times more TD's than INT's? Try..184/61.

But, he played on stacked teams. HOFers Bart Starr, Terry Bradshaw, John Unitas played on stacked teams. Not counting those three....20 Hall of Famers to be.

But....ignore all that, ignore the SB's, ignore all his NFL records, ignore all those pro bowls. ignore where the players rank him, he's..............struggle:lol

Why so much of this?


Is Russell Wilson the Best Quarterback in the League?

[JohnnyD]

Where is that guy who did it better?

Andrew Luck?

Nope!

[JohnnyZ]

What an amazing pass to Moore.

How many 4th quarter comebacks does Wilson have now?

What a day....

71.0 comp%
339 yards
2/0 TD/INT
128.3 passer rating

I never get too carried away with any "one" race/game, but......how can anyone into football not see "it" with Russell Wilson?


No monster D, no BEASTMODE and the guy is having his best stats season, his highest QB rating. Will break his 34 td for a season record.

[HarlemHeat37]

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With Rodgers clearly on the decline, Wilson might be the best QB in the NFL right now IMO..

[Will Hunting]

1066828982346166272

With Rodgers clearly on the decline, Wilson might be the best QB in the NFL right now IMO..
:lol are you being serious? Ignoring the fact it’s a stretch to put him ahead of Rodgers, youre putting Wilson ahead of Brees, Mahomes, Rivers & Brady?

[JohnnyZ]

1066828982346166272

With Rodgers clearly on the decline, Wilson might be the best QB in the NFL right now IMO..

No doubt he's in the very elite.

I don't think most people realize what he's really been doing. The guy holds at least 4 NFL records. When I do my....nobody has ever had a better first seven seasons I'm dead serious.

[JohnnyZ]

:lol are you being serious? Ignoring the fact it’s a stretch to put him ahead of Rodgers, youre putting Wilson ahead of Brees, Mahomes, Rivers & Brady?

Very realistic to have Wilson in with those guys. And he did have a better first seven seasons. Let's see what happens to Mahomes.

[Will Hunting]

Very realistic to have Wilson in with those guys. And he did have a better first seven seasons. Let's see what happens to Mahomes.
:lmao he had a better first 7 seasons than Brady did?

[JohnnyZ]

:lmao he had a better first 7 seasons than Brady did?

Take a few minutes and Google their career stats. When it comes to ind stats it's all Russell Wilson, not really all that close.

In his first seven seasons the best passer rating Brady ever had was a 92.6, six times Wilson had something better than that and a 110.1 his best. Brady sat on a bench, Wilson came right in and took over.

Come on guy actually check out the stats.


There is no QB who did it better than Wilson if talking the stats, winning, records, playoff success, rushing combined than Wilson in their first seven seasons.

[Darth_Pelican]

^ :lol Solid troll

[JohnnyZ]

How many QB's walked right in and started day one?

How many QB won a SB in year two and came within a yard of winning two in year three?

How many QB have a career passer rating over 100?

How many QB;s have won a SB, led the NFL in passer rating, led the NFL in QB passes?

No QB ever started off wih two 100 passer rating seasons.

No QB has ever had a 4000/30/500 season but Wilson.

No QB ever threw more 4th Q td passes in a season.

[Bad Takes]

1066828982346166272

With Rodgers clearly on the decline, Wilson might be the best QB in the NFL right now IMO..

Hi

[JohnnyZ]

^ :lol Solid troll

Find a QB who did it better their first seven seasons. Come on guy....who?

I keep tossing that out and nobody ever comes up with the guy who did it better in their first seven seasons. Why?

[Bad Takes]

Take a few minutes and Google their career stats. When it comes to ind stats it's all Russell Wilson, not really all that close.

In his first seven seasons the best passer rating Brady ever had was a 92.6, six times Wilson had something better than that and a 110.1 his best. Brady sat on a bench, Wilson came right in and took over.

Come on guy actually check out the stats.


There is no QB who did it better than Wilson if talking the stats, winning, records, playoff success, rushing combined than Wilson in their first seven seasons.

Hello old friend, I never get tired of seeing you here.

[JohnnyZ]

Hello old friend, I never get tired of seeing you here.

Bad Takes is that really you? Where ya been buddy?

[Bad Takes]

Bad Takes is that really you? Where ya been buddy?

What do you mean? I'm with you every time you submit a post here.

[JohnnyZ]

Google...

Joe Montana
Dan Marino
John Elway
Troy Aikman
Brett Favre
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Big Ben
Philip Rivers

anyone ya want, Fouts. Kelly, Unitas, Otto, etc etc

vs Russell Wilson comparing their first seven seasons. Come on who did it better?

Beat this.

100.0
101.2
95.0
110.1....led NFL
92.6
95.4
112.0

....when it comes to passer rating.

Come on who did it better?

[JohnnyZ]

What do you mean? I'm with you every time you submit a post here.

Remember how ya ...struggle? Why?

[Will Hunting]

Take a few minutes and Google their career stats. When it comes to ind stats it's all Russell Wilson, not really all that close.

In his first seven seasons the best passer rating Brady ever had was a 92.6, six times Wilson had something better than that and a 110.1 his best. Brady sat on a bench, Wilson came right in and took over.

Come on guy actually check out the stats.


There is no QB who did it better than Wilson if talking the stats, winning, records, playoff success, rushing combined than Wilson in their first seven seasons.
You’re cherry picking passer rating as if it’s the only thing that matters.

:lmao using “playoff success” as something Wilson has as an advantage over Brady in their first 7 seasons.

[Will Hunting]

What do you mean? I'm with you every time you submit a post here.
:lmao

[Will Hunting]

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career.htm

:lol according to shitvante’s logic, Kirk Cousins is a top 10 all time QB because of his passer rating!

[JohnnyZ]

You’re cherry picking passer rating as if it’s the only thing that matters.

:lmao using “playoff success” as something Wilson has as an advantage over Brady in their first 7 seasons.

I'm talking everything we look at in a QB.

comp%
TD/INT ratio
yards
passer rating
we can't totally ignore rushing yards
wins
playoff success

combined, the total package.

Who did it better taking all that?

[JohnnyZ]

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career.htm

:lol according to shitvante’s logic, Kirk Cousins is a top 10 all time QB because of his passer rating!

Dude, nobody is talking JUST passer rating.

TD/INT ratio look at that.

Comp% look at that.

Yards.

Rushing yards look at that.

Google Tom Brady career stats, now Google Russell Wilson career stats. Check out where they were their first seven seasons. All Wilson and not even close.

YES YES and YES....nobody any better than Tom Brady. BUT....Wilson did have a better first seven seasons.

[Will Hunting]

Take a few minutes and Google their career stats. When it comes to ind stats it's all Russell Wilson, not really all that close.

In his first seven seasons the best passer rating Brady ever had was a 92.6, six times Wilson had something better than that and a 110.1 his best. Brady sat on a bench, Wilson came right in and took over.

Come on guy actually check out the stats.


There is no QB who did it better than Wilson if talking the stats, winning, records, playoff success, rushing combined than Wilson in their first seven seasons.


Dude, nobody is talking JUST passer rating.

TD/INT ratio look at that.

Comp% look at that.

Yards.

Rushing yards look at that.

Google Tom Brady career stats, now Google Russell Wilson career stats. Check out where they were their first seven seasons. All Wilson and not even close.

YES YES and YES....nobody any better than Tom Brady. BUT....Wilson did have a better first seven seasons.
I googled it. It says Wilson only won 1 superbowl and Brady won 3.

Thanks for playing though. Maybe next time.

[JohnnyZ]

I googled it. It says Wilson only won 1 superbowl and Brady won 3.

Thanks for playing though. Maybe next time.

Trent Dilfer
Jim McMahon
Doug Williams

won Superbowls

Fran Tarkenton
Warren Moon
Dan Fouts
Jim Kelly


All in the Hall of Fame didn't.

See how silly that is?

Eli Manning is better than Philip Rivers?

If you look at Brady's ind numbers his first seven seasons they pale in comparisons to Wilson's. As does everyone elses. AND....Wilson never sat on a bench.

[JohnnyZ]

All I see is a load of crap. Find me any QB who put up better numbers than Russell Wilson in their first seven seasons. Come on it should be easy, remember he;s struggling.

Who had a better first seven seasons in their career than Russel Wilson? Well?

Guy leaves the NCAA as the all time passing leader for a season, he walks right in and ties the rookie TD record. Wins a SB in his second season, almost wins another in his third season. Then starts setting NFL records. Has led the NFL with a 110.1, has led the NFL with 34 TD passes. NOBODY has ever had more 4th Q TD passes in a season. NOBODY has ever had a 4000/30/500 season but Wilson (18 yards from a second). Second all time passer rating.

That is reality.

[Will Hunting]

Trent Dilfer
Jim McMahon
Doug Williams

won Superbowls

Fran Tarkenton
Warren Moon
Dan Fouts
Jim Kelly

All in the Hall of Fame didn't.

See how silly that is?

Eli Manning is better than Philip Rivers?

If you look at Brady's ind numbers his first seven seasons they pale in comparisons to Wilson's. As does everyone elses. AND....Wilson never sat on a bench.

You're looking at stats Wilson put up in an era where the rules are historically friendly for QBs and receivers (hence why Marino's yardage record stood for decades and then was broken multiple times in recent years). Brady's first 7 seasons were in an era where defensive backs were allowed to play significantly more physical coverage and where teams didn't throw the ball nearly as much.

Go and compare Kirk Cousins' stats through his first 4 seasons as a starter to Joe Montana's stats in his first 4 seasons as a starter and Cousins has him beat in all of the categories you're referencing (TD/INT ratio, yards, passer rating). Are you saying that through 4 seasons Kirk Cousins was a better quarterback than Joe Montana?

[JohnnyZ]

You're looking at stats Wilson put up in an era where the rules are historically friendly for QBs and receivers (hence why Marino's yardage record stood for decades and then was broken multiple times in recent years). Brady's first 7 seasons were in an era where defensive backs were allowed to play significantly more physical coverage and where teams didn't throw the ball nearly as much.

Go and compare Kirk Cousins' stats through his first 4 seasons as a starter to Joe Montana's stats in his first 4 seasons as a starter and Cousins has him beat in all of the categories you're referencing (TD/INT ratio, yards, passer rating). Are you saying that through 4 seasons Kirk Cousins was a better quarterback than Joe Montana?

Why ignore what I said about SB's? Is Dilfer better than Moon?

I get the era thing, I also get the fact what Wilson is doing is far more dynamic than what anyone has done at the same stage of the career. Don;t ignore his NFL records, don't ignore his rushing yards, don't ignore his pro bowls, the fact he walked right in and took over. The guy is doing things never seen before.

I have never seen anyone as impressive as Russell Wilson starting out. If looking at records. wins, stats,

[Will Hunting]

# of defensive holding calls per season:

Pre-Wilson:
2009: 109
2010: 115
2011: 129

Last 7 years:
2012: 153
2013: 181
2014: 235
2015: 228
2016: 216
2017: 248

Wilson's "first 7 years" coincide perfectly with when the NFL more than doubled the amount of defensive holding penalties it called, which is why his stats are better than the stats of QBs like Brady/Manning/Montana/etc. Cherrypicking his "first 7 seasons" when all of the older QBs started their career in a different era and the younger QBs haven't been around long enough to put up 7 seasons worth of statistics is an intellectually dishonest argument.

There's a plethora of other young QBs who after 7 seasons under the current NFL rules will put up better numbers than Wilson has and it won't mean they're better than him. The rule changes have had such a profound impact on passing stats in the last 10 years that it's retarded to compare stats from different eras.

[Will Hunting]

Why ignore what I said about SB's? Is Dilfer better than Moon?
Dilfer won 1 superbowl in a historically weak season, Brady won 3 superbowls in 4 years. Using Trent Dilfer to try and dismiss the rings Brady has is retarded.


I get the era thing
You don't actually. You just know your argument is intellectually dishonest so you're saying you "get the era thing" to try and seem more credible as to pretend you're factoring era in when you know you aren't.


I also get the fact what Wilson is doing is far more dynamic than what anyone has done at the same stage of the career.
Now you're resorting to vague, subjective words like "dynamic" that carry no substance.


Don;t ignore his NFL records
You're saying you "get the era thing" but then in the same sentence you're bringing up records he would have never set pre-defensive holding rule changes. He's one of many QBs who have set records in the last 7 years.


don't ignore his rushing yards
The fact he has rushing yards means nothing. His team doesn't get a bonus if he rushes the ball instead of passes it, it gets moved down the field the same way rush or pass. You're trying to prop up his rushing yards because it's another intellectually dishonest argument to make over more conventional QBs like Brady, Manning or Montana.


don't ignore his pro bowls
Brady had 4 in his first 7 seasons as a starter. If Wilson makes it this year he'll have 5 in his first 7 seasons. Is the difference between 4 and 5 trips to the pro bowl (when the 5th trip hasn't even happened yet) an argument you're seriously trying to make?


the fact he walked right in and took over
In an era where QBs come in and take over as a rookie all the time. If he was drafted by a team with Drew Bledsoe playing at a pro bowl level, he wouldn't have played as a rookie.


The guy is doing things never seen before.
There are lots of QBs who have done stuff we haven't seen before in the last 5 years (how many times has Marino's single season passing yardage record been broken in the last 5 years), and it's not because QBs suddenly got way better than guys like Marino, Montana and Elway were. It's because the NFL made rule changes to create a pass heavy league with higher scoring. This is the equivalent of trying to use stats from the steroid era in baseball.


I have never seen anyone as impressive as Russell Wilson starting out. If looking at records. wins, stats,
If you're looking at wins, Brady has him fucking destroyed. Russell Wilson's career regular season record is 71-35-1 and his playoff record is 8-4. Brady through 7 seasons as a starter had a career record of 86-24 and a playoff record of 14-3.

[JohnnyZ]

# of defensive holding calls per season:

Pre-Wilson:
2009: 109
2010: 115
2011: 129

Last 7 years:
2012: 153
2013: 181
2014: 235
2015: 228
2016: 216
2017: 248

Wilson's "first 7 years" coincide perfectly with when the NFL more than doubled the amount of defensive holding penalties it called, which is why his stats are better than the stats of QBs like Brady/Manning/Montana/etc. Cherrypicking his "first 7 seasons" when all of the older QBs started their career in a different era and the younger QBs haven't been around long enough to put up 7 seasons worth of statistics is an intellectually dishonest argument.

There's a plethora of other young QBs who after 7 seasons under the current NFL rules will put up better numbers than Wilson has and it won't mean they're better than him. The rule changes have had such a profound impact on passing stats in the last 10 years that it's retarded to compare stats from different eras.

What's retarded is watching Russell Wilson play and everyone else and not seeing how he's without question on a par with everybody else.

So we need to ignore all those NFL records? His win/loss record? Those pro bowls?

Nobody has ever thrown more 4th Q TD passes in a season than Russell Wilson. We ignore the fact he had led the NFL in QB rating and TD's?

Forget he tied the rookie TD record?

Come on guy, if you can't see the greatness of Russell Wilson then ya don't understand the game.

Actually look at this, ok?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa4kBqlbYsI


How many of those plays took his mobility?

[Will Hunting]

What's retarded is watching Russell Wilson play and everyone else and not seeing how he's without question on a par with everybody else.
I didn't say he wasn't. I said through 7 seasons he hasn't had the career Brady had through 7 seasons as starter. You're moving the goalposts.


So we need to ignore all those NFL records? His win/loss record? Those pro bowls?
Another strawman. I never said we need to ignore them, I said you can't objectively compare passing stats from the last 10 years against stats from other eras.


Nobody has ever thrown more 4th Q TD passes in a season than Russell Wilson.
More random trivia you're nitpicking at. If we want to harp on random facts, care to share what Wilson's record is when the other team scores more than 25 points?


We ignore the fact he had led the NFL in QB rating and TD's?
He led the NFL in passer rating for 1 season, something Nick Foles did 2 years earlier. It's a flawed statistic that favors QBs who get to make conservative decisions in a balanced offense vs. QBs who need to throw 600+ attempts every year to create offense. It does absolutely nothing to quantify usage.


Forget he tied the rookie TD record?
More random trivia. He had an unusually good rookie year at a position that typically doesn't see great production from rookies. I'll agree he had a better rookie season than Brady if that'll make you feel better.


Actually look at this, ok?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa4kBqlbYsI
So that's your argument now, youtube highlight videos that, similar to what you do, cherrypick his strengths and ignore his weaknesses?

[JohnnyZ]

Dilfer won 1 superbowl in a historically weak season, Brady won 3 superbowls in 4 years. Using Trent Dilfer to try and dismiss the rings Brady has is retarded.


You don't actually. You just know your argument is intellectually dishonest so you're saying you "get the era thing" to try and seem more credible as to pretend you're factoring era in when you know you aren't.


Now you're resorting to vague, subjective words like "dynamic" that carry no substance.


You're saying you "get the era thing" but then in the same sentence you're bringing up records he would have never set pre-defensive holding rule changes. He's one of many QBs who have set records in the last 7 years.


The fact he has rushing yards means nothing. His team doesn't get a bonus if he rushes the ball instead of passes it, it gets moved down the field the same way rush or pass. You're trying to prop up his rushing yards because it's another intellectually dishonest argument to make over more conventional QBs like Brady, Manning or Montana.


Brady had 4 in his first 7 seasons as a starter. If Wilson makes it this year he'll have 5 in his first 7 seasons. Is the difference between 4 and 5 trips to the pro bowl (when the 5th trip hasn't even happened yet) an argument you're seriously trying to make?


In an era where QBs come in and take over as a rookie all the time. If he was drafted by a team with Drew Bledsoe playing at a pro bowl level, he wouldn't have played as a rookie.


There are lots of QBs who have done stuff we haven't seen before in the last 5 years (how many times has Marino's single season passing yardage record been broken in the last 5 years), and it's not because QBs suddenly got way better than guys like Marino, Montana and Elway were. It's because the NFL made rule changes to create a pass heavy league with higher scoring. This is the equivalent of trying to use stats from the steroid era in baseball.


If you're looking at wins, Brady has him fucking destroyed. Russell Wilson's career regular season record is 71-35-1 and his playoff record is 8-4. Brady through 7 seasons as a starter had a career record of 86-24 and a playoff record of 14-3.

So with all that said, where do we put Wilson vs everyone else after seven seasons?

I don't ignore the fact Wilson did walk right in and Brady sat on a bench. And being able to run does put more stress on any defense. we don't ignore that part of his game.

Seen them all since the late 50's, I haven't seen anyone anymore impressive than Wilson at seven seasons.

[JohnnyZ]

I didn't say he wasn't. I said through 7 seasons he hasn't had the career Brady had through 7 seasons as starter. You're moving the goalposts.


Another strawman. I never said we need to ignore them, I said you can't objectively compare passing stats from the last 10 years against stats from other eras.


More random trivia you're nitpicking at. If we want to harp on random facts, care to share what Wilson's record is when the other team scores more than 25 points?


He led the NFL in passer rating for 1 season, something Nick Foles did 2 years earlier. It's a flawed statistic that favors QBs who get to make conservative decisions in a balanced offense vs. QBs who need to throw 600+ attempts every year to create offense. It does absolutely nothing to quantify usage.


More random trivia. He had an unusually good rookie year at a position that typically doesn't see great production from rookies. I'll agree he had a better rookie season than Brady if that'll make you feel better.


So that's your argument now, youtube highlight videos that, similar to what you do, cherrypick his strengths and ignore his weaknesses?

So just what do we look at then? What did Brady do better than Wilson those first seven seasons?

Check this out.

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2017/1/6/14189336/russell-wilson-playoffs-seahawks-stats-record-nfl-yards-touchdowns-interceptions

[JohnnyZ]

Bottom line.

Won a SB
Two SB in first three seasons
Numerous pro bowls
Numerous NFL records and firsts
Never missed a game
Has been in the MVP talk
Never sat on a bench

All that and only seven years of experience.

[AlexJones]

Tier1 : Brady/Rodgers/PManning

Tier 2: Wilson/Ben/Brees

No one that played before the passing revolution matters

[JohnnyZ]

Tier1 : Brady/Rodgers/PManning

Tier 2: Wilson/Ben/Brees

No one that played before the passing revolution matters

We never ignore winning in any era or any situation. And what others think of them.

You cannot talk the GREAT QB's and not mention Otto Graham. The hell with rules, whatever. he stood out and still does. Same with Joe Montana, John Unitas.

Russell Wilson has done everything it takes to be GREAT. He has the wins, he has the numbers, the records.

Brady and Rodgers sat on the bench, Peyton threw a ton of INT's starting out. Wilson simply took over and started putting up numbers right out of the gate.

Google....The Great Russell Wilson. TONS and TONS of stuff saying what I'm talking about. There is a reason for that.


Stuff like....

Greatest QB of all time: Russell Wilson - NFL Videos - NFL.com (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwi63N2x8PLeAhUImeAKHSDfBlYQtwIwAHoECAgQA Q&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nfl.com%2Fvideos%2Fnfl-game-highlights%2F0ap2000000334687%2FGreatest-QB-of-all-time-Russell-Wilson&usg=AOvVaw3egSDKhuKMR5nXNdBRGXaY)

[SpursforSix]

Google....The Great Russell Wilson.
(https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwi63N2x8PLeAhUImeAKHSDfBlYQtwIwAHoECAgQA Q&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nfl.com%2Fvideos%2Fnfl-game-highlights%2F0ap2000000334687%2FGreatest-QB-of-all-time-Russell-Wilson&usg=AOvVaw3egSDKhuKMR5nXNdBRGXaY)

Google: Did you mean "Russell Wilson sucks"?

[JohnnyZ]

Google: Did you mean "Russell Wilson sucks"?

Well let's look at that.

NFL record...4000/30/500...in a season
Only QB to ever have two 100 passer ratings in their first two seasons.
NFL record...26TD passes in a rookie season. (tied with Peyton)
NFL record for 4th QB passes in a season.
NFL leading....110.1
NFL leading...34 TD in a season
Ranked the 11th best player in 2018 by the players.
Numerous pro bowls
SB Champ
Second highest passer rating in history for a career
Two SB in first three seasons

Dude, you ever watch a football game?


Why soooooooo much of this out there?


Why Russell Wilson is an MVP candidate and can win it this coming season

QB Russell Wilson: The greatest creative force in the league today?



(https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=14&ved=2ahUKEwjlpOKb9fLeAhWvmuAKHUCuD6kQFjANegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fseahawkswire.usatoday.com%2F2018 %2F09%2F07%2Frussell-wilson-the-greatest-creative-force-in-the-league-today%2F&usg=AOvVaw2Nutx75Y98Hu3NAYx-M7Ky)Seahawks: Is Russell Wilson the Best Quarterback in the NFL? (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=23&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiw6dSU9vLeAhWPnOAKHdn9CIY4FBAWMAJ6BAgHE AE&url=https%3A%2F%2Femeraldcityswagger.com%2F2017%2F 06%2F08%2Fseahawks-russell-wilson-best-quarterback-nfl%2F&usg=AOvVaw250fnIqNyPSI4u_bHHhX1P)

[JohnnyZ]

Right this minute as I type this....Whitlock bragging on the guy. As does everybody else who knows the game.

Rod Woodson.....this guy can play. He makes plays.

[Darth_Pelican]

Tier1 : Brady/Rodgers/PManning

Tier 2: Wilson/Ben/Brees

No one that played before the passing revolution matters

Brees moves into Tier 1 if he wins another Super Bowl. He holds the most passing yards all time and will have the most passing TDs all time by the time he retires. Also, you can take Rodgers out of your tier 1. He isn't there yet. He may be the most gifted but he hasn't earned that tier yet career wise.

[JohnnyZ]

Speaking of QB's.

I was a cornerback (rb on offense) when up against a QB who can run like we'll see tonight you can't just focus on the job at hand, you have to keep an eye on that QB in case he takes off. A QB who can scoot 20 yards is a major problem. Watch how many times Watson's ability to move makes all the difference. Just another weapon.

Yes Brady is great but there is no fear of him as a runner.

[JohnnyZ]

Andrew Luck vs Russell Wilson first seven seasons.

Luck

comp % 60.5
TD/INT...164/79
passer rating....89.5

Wilson

64.3
186/61....three times more TD's than INT's
passer rating...100.2....second highest for a career in NFL history.

Wilson the better runner by far
Wilson more playoff success.
Wilson more NFL records

YES YES YES....different era, different rules and all that stuff. But how would Montana's career number compare to Wilsons career?

[JohnnyZ]

Montana

comp%... 63.2
TD/INT...273/139
passer rating...92.3

Way more playoff success.

[Blake]

Speaking of QB's.

I was a cornerback (rb on offense) when up against a QB who can run like we'll see tonight you can't just focus on the job at hand, you have to keep an eye on that QB in case he takes off. A QB who can scoot 20 yards is a major problem. Watch how many times Watson's ability to move makes all the difference. Just another weapon.

Yes Brady is great but there is no fear of him as a runner.

And yet Brady has been in more SBs than any other QB.

you're stupid

[benefactor]

TD/INT ratio look at that.

Comp% look at that.

Yards.

Rushing yards look at that.

Or you could just look at this:
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ZDGex9yPvQiEQlJJOL8eifhVB18=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3366162/PATSPATSPATS.0.gif

[JohnnyZ]

And yet Brady has been in more SBs than any other QB.

you're stupid

Too damn dumb to get it aren't ya skippy?

[JohnnyZ]

Or you could just look at this:
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ZDGex9yPvQiEQlJJOL8eifhVB18=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3366162/PATSPATSPATS.0.gif

Or ya could look at all those NFL records, his SB win, all those Pro Bowls. Could look at that 100.1 passer rating the second best in history. The fact everybody who knows the game has him in the top 4/5 best in the game right now.

[JohnnyZ]

benefactor did bring up something that really is strange.

This game to game play to play thing I see you guys play. Wilson throws a pick in the first Q, it's...that's struggle, in the second Q a fumble....hahahaha struggle, in the third Q he throws one in the dirt.....struggle sucks. No thought at all how stupid that is "during" a game.

Here comes the 4th Q, he throws a perfect 45 yad pass to Lockett...TD, next drive another scorcher to Baldwin...TD (TV guy...the magic of Russell Wilson). All those playing....hahahaha struggle ....looking totally stupid now.

People, ya don't play that silly shit DURING a game, how many times does it bite ya in the ass?

The stats tell us Wilson plays his best in that 4th Q, he is historically great.

Never forget that NE vs Ariz SB.

The Pats are getting killed.
Belichick sucks.
Brady is done
Cards kicking ass
HAHAHAHAHAHA...Pats

No thought at all that here is a team used to THE BIG GAME vs a team with no clue how to deal with it.

Then it began to happen, and how funny was this?

Ah....hmmm....Pats starting to put up a fight.
Well ah.....hmmm?
What?

Now if ya had simply gave it some fucking time.

This is my fav....

Me...check out this kid Tyreek Hill tonight, the guy can fly.

Well he muffs the first punt kicked to him.

Clipper Nation.....hahahahahaha a muff.

The next time he fields a punt..........75yard TD.

Where is Clipper Nation?

Bottom line....don't act like a monkey with a hard on over a play or the first three Q of any game. Be cool, give it time.

[benefactor]

Or ya could look at all those NFL records, his SB win, all those Pro Bowls. Could look at that 100.1 passer rating the second best in history. The fact everybody who knows the game has him in the top 4/5 best in the game right now.
Nah I'll just look at this:
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ZDGex9yPvQiEQlJJOL8eifhVB18=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3366162/PATSPATSPATS.0.gif

[JohnnyZ]

Since Wilson came in the league he has 66 4th Q TD'S, who has more in that time span?

[JohnnyZ]

Nah I'll just look at this:
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ZDGex9yPvQiEQlJJOL8eifhVB18=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3366162/PATSPATSPATS.0.gif

Ok cool.

Now remember he already had a SB win, something....

Philip Rivers
Warren Moon
Dan Marino
Dan Fouts
Fran Tarkenton
Andrew Luck
Jim Kelly
John Unitas

can't say.

[benefactor]

Ok cool.

Now remember he already had a SB win, something....

Philip Rivers
Warren Moon
Dan Marino
Dan Fouts
Fran Tarkenton
Andrew Luck
Jim Kelly
John Unitas

can't say.
Hey look this is pretty cool toohttps://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ZDGex9yPvQiEQlJJOL8eifhVB18=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3366162/PATSPATSPATS.0.gif

[JohnnyZ]

As I promised closing down this thread.

[Blake]

Hey look this is pretty cool toohttps://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ZDGex9yPvQiEQlJJOL8eifhVB18=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3366162/PATSPATSPATS.0.gif

:lmao

[JohnnyZ]

If you guys want this thread to go....KAPLUNK, then stop posting in it, ok?

So let's talk some more about Russell Wilson.

Here he is without BEASTMODE, that....LEGION OF BOOM, on the verge of another playoff run, how is that possible being just a lowly...NFL records holder, SB champ, multi pro bowler, number 11 best player in the NFL...struggle?

I get the internet bullshit, but how could anyone Who follows the NFL not see ...IT...with Russell Wlson?

Don't ignore all his NFL records, he holds three/four. Don't ignore al those pro bowls, don't ignore his....100.01...career passer rating the second best in NFL....HISTORY.

The guy is great, and only a blind man couldn't see it.

Look up above at benefactor and Blake doing their stupid baboon routine over that SB pass, too stupid to get soooooooo many great QB's have never won one and Wilson was in his second in his first three seasons, how many do that?

[Sir Johnny]

Add....Pro Bowl Skills Champion....to his long list of accomplishments.

[Will Hunting]

Add....Pro Bowl Skills Champion....to his long list of accomplishments.
Unfortunately for Russ he won't be adding "Porterville Golden Corral Eating Contest Winner" to his list of accomplishments as long as your daughter lives there though.

[Avant]

Giants?

[spurraider21]

i wonder how many draft picks the giants would have to send over to land wilson...

but they probably want a win-now QB while OBJ is in his prime and Saquon is still young

[Avant]

i wonder how many draft picks the giants would have to send over to land wilson...

but they probably want a win-now QB while OBJ is in his prime and Saquon is still young

I'm in the...what???...stage of this right now.

His wife wants to live in NY or so the story goes.

[chunticakes]

Future is gonna have a field day with this :lol

[Raven]

what are you guys talking about tbh

[Avant]

what are you guys talking about tbh

In the rumor stage.

Wilsons wife the singer wants to live in NY, could Wilson end up there. Eli is about out,Wilson needs a new contract.

Rumors.

[jackyboi99]

QBs start to really hit their prime in their 30’s. Dare I say it? Tannehill will break out this year

[Millennial_Messiah]

Hey look this is pretty cool toohttps://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ZDGex9yPvQiEQlJJOL8eifhVB18=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3366162/PATSPATSPATS.0.gif
dang, one pump fake inside and then throwing the fade to Jermaine Kearse was wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide open. :wow


Lockette was a bona fide softy who would lose to 125 pound me in an arm wrestling contest. Short career full of times he got laid out, the final one by fucking Jeff Heath of all people in 2015 :lol

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Hey look this is pretty cool toohttps://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/ZDGex9yPvQiEQlJJOL8eifhVB18=/800x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3366162/PATSPATSPATS.0.gif

[johnsmith]

A