Brutal stretch down the year

[pookenstein]

Well, the last Outings haven't been pretty, but I fear our record will become a lot uglier over the next 1.5 months. Here's who we'll play from now on until the new year.

11/15 @Clips (b2b)
11/18 Warriors
11/19 @Pels (b2b)
11/21 Grizzlies
11/23 @Pacers
11/24 @Bucks (b2b)
11/26 @ Bulls
11/28 @Wolves
11/30 Rockets
12/02 Blazers
12/04 @Jazz
12/05 @ Lakers (b2b)
12/07 Lakers
12/09 Jazz
12/11 Suns
12/13 Clips
12/15 Bulls
12/17 Sixers
12/19 @Magíc
12/21 Wolves
12/22 @ Rockets
12/26 Nuggets
12/28 @Nuggets
12/29 @Clips (b2b)
12/31 Celtics

Whoa, that could escalate quicky. I can't imagine we're winning more than 10 of these 25. And that's if we split the four Lakers and Jazz games.
Btw, the start to the new year isn't that pretty as well with Leonard's return on 18/01, two games against the Grizzlies and Thunder and a game in Detroit.

You guys think Pop will blow it up and try to trade LMA/Pau/Gay or even DeMar for some picks if it comes to a 20-30(ish) record?

[spurs10]

No I don't think Pop will blow it up. I think he will coach the team he has and make the best of it. Now do they make some trades? Likely, but I think it will be more based around who could help DDR and LMA. I can't expect LMA to play this bad as the season goes on. He should bounce back tomorrow considerable and hopefully Gay will be back. We are much worse when he isn't playing.

[HarlemHeat37]

Ya that's rough, the only games there that SHOULD be wins are the home games against Chicago and Phoenix..everything else is a toss-up or loss..

Trading DeRozan would be shocking, I don't think he could handle being traded twice in less than a year:lol

I don't know what kind of value Aldridge currently has..he's playing poorly, 33 years old, moody and not that many teams are interested in his style anymore..maybe the Heat or Blazers or Wizards..

Can't imagine Pop ever tanking at this point, though..

[objective]

Ya that's rough, the only games there that SHOULD be wins are the home games against Chicago and Phoenix..everything else is a toss-up or loss..

Trading DeRozan would be shocking, I don't think he could handle being traded twice in less than a year:lol

I don't know what kind of value Aldridge currently has..he's playing poorly, 33 years old, moody and not that many teams are interested in his style anymore..maybe the Heat or Blazers or Wizards..

Can't imagine Pop ever tanking at this point, though..

Agreed. Spurs couldn't get any decent offers for him when he was only 30, 31 and performing better.

Any deal for Aldridge would probably involve taking back crappy players on long term deals like an Alan Crabbe or Deon Waiters.

His deal is only good for one more year and then he can be stretch-waived and only cost about 2.3 million for the seasons.

Might as well keep him, it's not like he's hurting the tank. Give him a few more games and I'm sure he'll get some injury anyway.

[anon]

Might as well keep him, it's not like he's hurting the tank. Give him a few more games and I'm sure he'll get some injury anyway.
Ruthless and strategic. I like it.

[SuperCam]

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[Chillen]

There is no need to blow this team up but Spurs would be foolish to not look at offers for Aldridge.

The reality we lost a top 5 NBA player is setting in and it's not fun. Just hope this team trys and finds ways to win basketball games.

Spurs have had sustained regular season success but this might be the first off year in awhile. Every team has them.

[Kurgan]

There is no need to blow this team up but Spurs would be foolish to not look at offers for Aldridge.

The reality we lost a top 5 NBA player is setting in and it's not fun. Just hope this team trys and finds ways to win basketball games.

Spurs have had sustained regular season success but this might be the first off year in awhile. Every team has them.

It's the worst Spurs team since 1997. But at least the fans had the return of David Robinson to look forward to next season(and a high draft pick). There's nothing to look forward to with this shit roster. Pure definition of a go-nowhere treadmill team.

[Larry O]

To be brutally honest, the way this team is playing & constructed with the injuries and all, I don't see them winning a game until 11/26 when they play the Bulls, who are plagued with their own inuries, & the Spurs may have to scratch & claw to eek out a win against them on the road! And because they are the Spurs, everyone will be bringing their "A-game" against them. Unfortunately, this team can be under 500 come Sunday & it may continue to drop. I'd be surprised if SAS were to beat the Clips tonight. It looks like Doc has this team playing competative ball right now with a bunch of unknowns & an 8-5 record. I know that eveyone is suggesting that the Spurs jump in the tank & bomb this season, but the way their schedule is constructed for this season, along with the way they are playing & that lineup, it may just naturally happen. We shall see, but GSG!!!

[BatManu20]

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How many times did you have to Sim Lottery for that to work tbh :lol

[phxspurfan]

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Not sure if Zion is even the best player on Duke. Barrett may be better, and Reddish, while raw, has the best physical tools (taller, longer wingspan)

[DMC]

I'm all for the tank but the draft won't get us into contention again anytime soon because A) Pop will retire and B) The effect of one man isn't like it was when centers were dominant.

[spurraider21]

going 25-0 during that stretch and winning every game by 20+ tbh

[Coach X]

As soon as the NBA schedule was released, we noticed these three things:
- Start was ok but risky (nothing to win but a lot to lose in "easy" games)
- Pre-Christmas schedule is tough as this thread reflects
- The schedule eases at the end of RS.

A good start was needed and the team managed to do it despite not playing very well, especially in defense. Since then, Spurs are losing easy games and team play is getting worse. November-December schedule looks terrifying right now but is still soon to declare this team dead. Let's give this group of players and coaches the chance of being healthy and work together at least until Christmas. Should they continue losing with Gay, Gasol, healthy White, 3 months in the system for DeRozan, Poetl, etc., then we can say decisions need to be taken. If the team is around 0.500wins by then it will be because they are playing better, beating good teams and getting some good W in the road. That would give them credit to continue pushing at least until the Rodeo Road Trip. Don't forget the last weeks of RS schedule are favorable for Spurs.

[pookenstein]

going 25-0 during that stretch and winning every game by 20+ tbh

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[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Yeah, when you look at that list of games, and factor in how the Spurs have played lately along with the b2bs, it's pretty easy to visualize them going 8-17 over that stretch. Conceivably they could be 15-23 going into the new year.


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[Mirrornick]

One problem is LMA is still the 1st option on offense, as they run a lot of plays for him in the post. Once the team realizes/LMA realizes that he's no longer an all star player, then things will get better.

[HarlemHeat37]

One problem is LMA is still the 1st option on offense, as they run a lot of plays for him in the post. Once the team realizes/LMA realizes that he's no longer an all star player, then things will get better.

No it won't:lol

Aldridge still rebounds and plays defense, at least..take away his touches and he'll stop doing the dirty work, which would make this team even worse..

DeRozan should be shooting more often, though, just like last night..

[rjv]

i think it's quite possible that the spurs will drop to the outside the 10th seed by then.

[MultiTroll]

Ya that's rough, the only games there that SHOULD be wins are the home games against Chicago and Phoenix..everything else is a toss-up or loss..

Trading DeRozan would be shocking, I don't think he could handle being traded twice in less than a year:lol

I don't know what kind of value Aldridge currently has..he's playing poorly, 33 years old, moody and not that many teams are interested in his style anymore..maybe the Heat or Blazers or Wizards...
OTOH maybe DeRozan would be totally down with going to a contender. Of course a contender may not give up much. Unless it's a Houston Morey type that is into spend big and win now mode. Clippers I don't think with Jerry West are doing any favors.

Concur on Aldridge. This summer he may have gotten a lot with his strong 2nd half as #1 option. Back to sulking now. Surely other teams see this.

Way to go Pop and RC. Sure seems like he is fine with turning the team over as a crap pile as he wants to hear the "Oh they were so great with Pop look at them now" schpeel.

[TD 21]

No contender or pseudo one (since there's probably still only one real one, unless they beat themselves or succumb to injury) would want DeRozan because they all have better primary options and he can't play a secondary role because of his inability to space the floor or defend.

Thy only teams he makes sense for, are irrelevant ones like this, who are desperate to cling to respectability, refuse to re-build and can't attract stars (Aldridge was an exception and did so because he considers it home). That's a narrow market. Maybe the Hornets, Cavaliers, Pistons, Grizzlies, Pelicans (to attempt to entice Davis to stay). Even then, can't imagine anyone paying a significant price.

[objective]

No contender or pseudo one (since there's probably still only one real one, unless they beat themselves or succumb to injury) would want DeRozan because they all have better primary options and he can't play a secondary role because of his inability to space the floor or defend.

Thy only teams he makes sense for, are irrelevant ones like this, who are desperate to cling to respectability, refuse to re-build and can't attract stars (Aldridge was an exception and did so because he considers it home). That's a narrow market. Maybe the Hornets, Cavaliers, Pistons, Grizzlies, Pelicans (to attempt to entice Davis to stay). Even then, can't imagine anyone paying a significant price.

pretty much. They could get crap players on equally long deals and maybe a protected first. Maybe Chandler Parsons and pieces, or Solomon Hill and matching salary. Jon Leuer and Galloway and salary.

Nothing worthwhile.

They couldn't even get someone as good as Danny Green.

[gambit1990]

doesn’t matter if the stretch is brutal or not tbh... spurs will be irrelevant for the foreseeable future.

[BackHome]

Looking at the way we are playing and the injury bug I am thinking we only win 5 of the above games. Some mocks have us drafting at 12th spot I am thinking our record will be 7th to 9th then we just pray the bouncing ball lands us a top 5 pick :hungry:

[SAGirl]

The Spurs could really use a high lottery pick next season. Not really depressed about the way it's looking.

Edit: Jaren Jackson is looking really good for the Grizzlies.

[JeffDuncan]

Knowing PATFO the Spurs will pick the runt of the litter. Which of the top 30 college prospects is the shortest, clumsiest and least athletic?

[NASpurs]

Just dropped down to 10th.

Funny thing is they're still closer to the Warriors than the Suns, standings-wise.

[bklynspursfan]

Donkey is out tomorrow fwiw

[bklynspursfan]

Knowing PATFO the Spurs will pick the runt of the litter. Which of the top 30 college prospects is the shortest, clumsiest and least athletic?

Yeah cause that's basically what happened Metu, White, Walker, Murray, etc...

[JeffDuncan]

Yeah cause that's basically what happened Metu, White, Walker, Murray, etc...

I was being facetious of course, but also thinking of the "draft and stash" picks who never saw a minute of time in the NBA.

[Spurtacular]

The league loves to load up the back of the Spurs schedule.

[pookenstein]

I actually think we'll win this one without Steph and Donkey. Snake and Klay will probably score 70, hopefully we keep the others in check. Spurs by 6 with LMA hitting his shots tonight. 28/13 for the night.

[Coach X]

Tonight, SEGABABA at New Orleans.

Pelicans are progressively improving his game. Davis wasn't scoring as expected but he made 40pts in his last two games. Holiday with his incredible intensity, Mirotic is healthy again, Randle adapted and the rest of secondary players helping the team. Only Payton will be out. Pelicans run the 3rd fastest pace of the league and Spurs new big 3 played a ton yesterday (Gay 30', Aldridge and DeRozan 40'). Questions are:

- Do you expect Popovich to rest any player? who? I say Gay will surely rest.

- Would you show the white flag and rest Aldridge and or DeRozan thinking in the long term? Wednesday game at home vs Grizzlies should be secured as the next two games are a B2B at Indiana and Milwaukee (potential L both)

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Well, the Spurs have gone 3-4 so far, but should have beat Memphis, and actually could have beaten Milwaukee, and was in the LAC game as well. Hopefully I'll be eating crow about my 8-17 prediction for this stretch of games.

[SuperCam]

nate silverstein new ratings has spur as only 10% chance to make playoffs

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-nba-predictions/

[therealtruth]

This is the year Pop finally gets exposed as a lot of dual coach/GM's have been recently?

[phxspurfan]

What a weird ass year in the NBA.

The no-talent castoff Clippers lead the West, Denver/Memphis/Lakers/Dallas all in the playoff positions, and on the bottom are the Rockettes, Jazz, Spurs, Minny and New Orleans (most of which have tremendous levels of talent).

[SAGirl]

What a weird ass year in the NBA.

The no-talent castoff Clippers lead the West, Denver/Memphis/Lakers/Dallas all in the playoff positions, and on the bottom are the Rockettes, Jazz, Spurs, Minny and New Orleans (most of which have tremendous levels of talent).I am rethinking the Clippers. They suffered a lot of injuries last year. Last season is not a representation of a healthy roster for them and they got internal development from Harrell and a good draft pick in Shai.

[cpds421]

Next week’s back to back in Utah and LA will be a real test to this team. Spurs seriously needs to win both games to gain some confidence.

[r0drig0lac]

What a weird ass year in the NBA.

The no-talent castoff Clippers lead the West, Denver/Memphis/Lakers/Dallas all in the playoff positions, and on the bottom are the Rockettes, Jazz, Spurs, Minny and New Orleans (most of which have tremendous levels of talent).

what? they have a list with 13 talents of nba, I do not know where this idea comes from that they have no talent, their best player is playing like a top 4 wing in this season, and they have no weak players on the roster, in a hybrid list of spurs-clippers, spurs would probably have 3 players (being optimistic here), and of all the teams mentioned in his post, spurs have less talent (even if they have 2 B-level talents, the rest of the list is worse than the worst of the other teams)

[gambit1990]

doesn’t matter if the stretch is brutal or not tbh... spurs will be irrelevant for the foreseeable future.
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[pookenstein]

Well, the last Outings haven't been pretty, but I fear our record will become a lot uglier over the next 1.5 months. Here's who we'll play from now on until the new year.

11/15 @Clips (b2b)
11/18 Warriors
11/19 @Pels (b2b)
11/21 Grizzlies
11/23 @Pacers
11/24 @Bucks (b2b)
11/26 @ Bulls
11/28 @Wolves
11/30 Rockets
12/02 Blazers
12/04 @Jazz
12/05 @ Lakers (b2b)
12/07 Lakers
12/09 Jazz
12/11 Suns
12/13 Clips
12/15 Bulls
12/17 Sixers
12/19 @Magíc
12/21 Wolves
12/22 @ Rockets
12/26 Nuggets
12/28 @Nuggets
12/29 @Clips (b2b)
12/31 Celtics

Whoa, that could escalate quicky. I can't imagine we're winning more than 10 of these 25. And that's if we split the four Lakers and Jazz games.
Btw, the start to the new year isn't that pretty as well with Leonard's return on 18/01, two games against the Grizzlies and Thunder and a game in Detroit.

You guys think Pop will blow it up and try to trade LMA/Pau/Gay or even DeMar for some picks if it comes to a 20-30(ish) record?

14/25 (56% - wins are bolded) during that stretch. Better than I thought they would/could do and the Team is playing way better as of late, winning seven of the past nine (and being competetive in the losses @Houston/Denver as well). I think it's safe to say that blowing the team up won't be an option. Seems like I did a classic spurstalk and overreacted a tiny bit.

Let's hope that the recent trend continues and we can continue to climb up the standings. :flag:

But first things first: beat the Raps.

[TimmyBuckets]

14/25 (56% - wins are bolded) during that stretch. Better than I thought they would/could do and the Team is playing way better as of late, winning seven of the past nine (and being competetive in the losses @Houston/Denver as well). I think it's safe to say that blowing the team up won't be an option. Seems like I did a classic spurstalk and overreacted a tiny bit.



Let's hope that the recent trend continues and we can continue to climb up the standings. :flag:

But first things first: beat the Raps.

Wanna predict the next 10?

1/3 Raptors W
1/5 Grizzlies W
1/7 @ Pistons L
1/9 @ Grizzlies W
1/10 Thunder W
1/12 @ Thunder L
1/14 Hornets L
1/16 @ Mavericks W
1/18 @ Timberwolves W
1/20 Clippers W

[pookenstein]

Wanna predict the next 10?

1/3 Raptors W
1/5 Grizzlies W
1/7 @ Pistons L
1/9 @ Grizzlies W
1/10 Thunder W
1/12 @ Thunder L
1/14 Hornets L
1/16 @ Mavericks W
1/18 @ Timberwolves W
1/20 Clippers W

Sure, why not.

Raps --> W
Grizzlies --> W
Pistons --> W
@ Grizzlies --> L
Thunder --> L
@ Thunder --> L (hope they'll get at least one of the two, but i fear Adams will do great against LMA. Hopefully my gut is wrong)
Hornets --> W
@ Mavs --> L
@Wolves --> W
Clips --> W

I could live with that 6-4 record, a win against the Thunder would make it a (very) good stretch of games.

[jjktkk]

This is the year Pop finally gets exposed as a lot of dual coach/GM's have been recently?

I also wondered if this would be another year that you get exposed for shitty takes. You're right on schedule, congrads. :bobo

[Coach X]

It seems like the team has returned to the path after some struggles. Give some credit to the coaches.

Now, it looks like the goal of arriving around the 0.500 to the last 10 games is feasible. At that point, the easy calendar should help to finish the RS in a good run. I'd consider successful a 42 to 46W season where our young and key players can get some playoff experience together so PATFO can take the best decisions next summer in order to try to return to championship contention.

[gambit1990]

doesn’t matter if the stretch is brutal or not tbh... spurs will be irrelevant for the foreseeable future.
spurs don't have cap space and a healthy murray isn't saving this roster.