Worst player on defense in Spurs history?

[SpurPadre]

1. Gary Neal
2. Vinny Del Negro
3. Patty Mills
4. Steve Novak
5. Chuck Person
6. Matt Bonner
7. Bryn Forbes
8. Jack Haley
9. Marco Bellinelli
10. Davis Bertans

Who would you pick from these? Others? I say Neal but Mills and Forbes aren't that far behind, tbh.

[Ragamuffin]

bellinelli or bertans

[Texas_Ranger]

put dejuan blair on that list

[RC_Drunkford]

Mills is #1 to me

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't remember anything beyond the last 10 years anymore:lol

1. Forbes
2. Belinelli
3. Neal
4. 2010s Parker
5. Mills

[SpurPadre]

Mills is #1 to me

Nothing beats this, tbh:
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[SpurPadre]

I don't remember anything beyond the last 10 years anymore:lol

1. Forbes
2. Belinelli
3. Neal
4. 2010s Parker
5. Mills

I wasn't trying to rank, tbh. Just naming candidates but no one beats Neal, IMO.

[timvp]

1. Gary Neal
2. Vinny Del Negro
3. Patty Mills
4. Steve Novak
5. Chuck Person
6. Matt Bonner
7. Bryn Forbes
8. Jack Haley
9. Marco Bellinelli
10. Davis Bertans

Who would you pick from these? Others? I say Neal but Mills and Forbes aren't that far behind, tbh.

Bonner was a decent defender. On today's team, he'd look like Ben Wallace, tbh.


I don't remember anything beyond the last 10 years anymore:lol

1. Forbes
2. Belinelli
3. Neal
4. 2010s Parker
5. Mills

Mills has never been a better defender than Parker, tbh.

[timtonymanu]

Bonner held his own against the Gasol/Zbo frontcourt in 2013. I think he was alright defensively like timvp said.

I can’t remember if Money Mase was really bad on defense but he was hated here during his time on the Spurs.

[FkLA]

Forbes is a good defender, tbh.

[Budkin]

Neal tbh. That Mike Miller shoeless 3 is unforgiveable.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

2015 Parker was horrendous.

[Jay.From.NbTx]

Mills is easily the worst on this list

[Figa]

Kevin Martin and T-Mac

[TDMVPDPOY]

mills use to put his body on the line to take charges

but i think the nba refs has caught his bullshit like how fifarefs stop giving freebies to uefabarcalol with their diving and shit

like i said just because a ur midget, doesnt give u the right to lean ur head on someones arm and knock ur head backwards like u been hit by something to get a call....

yeh...mills hasnt gotten any bailout calls drawing charges for last few seasons now, is it because the spurs aint a defensive team no more or no perimeter defense? so refs wont give them that benefit of the doubt call???

[ducks]

Pop

[Leetonidas]

#11 whoever was guarding Earl Boykins in every game against us from 2000-2008

[Jay.From.NbTx]

Bertans is really bad also

[Jay.From.NbTx]

Pretty much this whole current roster could be on this list

[itzsoweezee]

White is fucking terrible. How is this guy starting?

[KimmyGib]

Belinelli

[SouthTexasRancher]

1. Gary Neal
2. Vinny Del Negro
3. Patty Mills
4. Steve Novak
5. Chuck Person
6. Matt Bonner
7. Bryn Forbes
8. Jack Haley
9. Marco Bellinelli
10. Davis Bertans

Who would you pick from these? Others? I say Neal but Mills and Forbes aren't that far behind, tbh.

All of the above. There's probably not a hair's width difference between the whole group. But, if I have to pick one it would be Patty.

[r0drig0lac]

I don't remember anything beyond the last 10 years anymore:lol

1. Forbes
2. Belinelli
3. Neal
4. 2010s Parker
5. Mills

this 5 in any order tbh

[ElNono]

People are forgetting that turnstile Matt Bonner... lmao @ people here saying he was a solid team defender when he had Duncan covering his ass left and right...

That dude single-handedly made Darrell Arthur look like an All Star, smh

[Brazil]

what about bogans or mason ? :lol

[Hoops Czar]

I'm surprised poodle didn't even make the list.

[testies]

Idk if he makes top10 but Pau Gasol has been responsible for a couple of thousand points by not contesting anybody in perimeter

[james evans]

Parker and Kerr not being in the top 10 makes this list irrelevant

[DMC]

Jeff Errors. Dude was a total dipshit. Matt was a traffic cone but he at least slowed the break on defense by being slow in transition.

Some here think Spurs history is ~1999

[spursparker9]

People are forgetting that turnstile Matt Bonner... lmao @ people here saying he was a solid team defender when he had Duncan covering his ass left and right...

That dude single-handedly made Darrell Arthur look like an All Star, smh

But he is the Ibaka stopper as well

[Dverde]

Mike Miller scored on Gary Neal missing a shoe in a Finals game. He deserves #1.

[playbonner15]

Bonner held his own against the Gasol/Zbo frontcourt in 2013. I think he was alright defensively like timvp said.

[SpurPadre]

People are forgetting that turnstile Matt Bonner... lmao @ people here saying he was a solid team defender when he had Duncan covering his ass left and right...

That dude single-handedly made Darrell Arthur look like an All Star, smh

THIS. The overrating of this fucker here continues to be mind-boggling, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

Jeff Errors. Dude was a total dipshit. Matt was a traffic cone but he at least slowed the break on defense by being slow in transition.

Some here think Spurs history is ~1999

Which is one of the reasons I brought up Del Negro, Chuck Person and Jack Haley.

[SpurPadre]

Parker and Kerr not being in the top 10 makes this list irrelevant

Parker wasn't that a bad a defender when he was younger, tbh. In the latter stage of his career, definitely an atrocious defender, though.

[james evans]

Parker wasn't that a bad a defender when he was younger, tbh. In the latter stage of his career, definitely an atrocious even badefender, though.
He’s always been bad. Playing with Bowen and Duncan makes it easier to hide you

[Drom John]

The only Chap/Spur with career negative defensive WS:

Leon Wood

For combined seasons; played in the NBA/BAA; in the regular season; from 1946-47 to 2018-19; playing for the San Antonios Spurs (Tex/Dal); requiring Minutes Played >= 100; sorted by descending Defensive Rating:

117 Nate Blackwell, Leon Wood
116 Charles Davis
115 Jon Sundvold
114 Dominique Wilkins, Ricky Wilson
113 Walter Berry, Johnny Dawkins, Keith Edmonson, Calvin Natt, Kurt Nimphius, John Paxson, Jay Vincent, Kevin Williams


For combined seasons; played in the NBA/BAA; in the regular season; from 1946-47 to 2018-19; playing for the San Antonios Spurs (Tex/Dal); requiring Minutes Played >= 100; sorted by ascending Defensive Box Plus/Minus

-5.1 Jack Haley
-4.7 Nate Blackwell, Oliver Robinson
-4.4 Mack Calvin
-4.3 Leon Wood
-4.2 Drew Gooden, Jon Sundvold
-4.1 Charles Davis
-3.8 Henry Ward
-3.4 John Paxson

[Spurs Homer]

Michael Finley
Bonner
Van Exel

[Mirrornick]

Brent Barry and Fabricio Oberto

[slick'81]

Anyone saying matt bonner getting raped by that grizz front court as decent is straight retarded.He was good at standing upright and keeping his hands straight up in the air though.

i dont think dominique wilkins played any d when he was here and danny ferry was pretty awful

[K...]

Lmao Drew gooden sighting

[jbspurs]

Mills is #1 to me

I agree, most if not all figured that out already. Teams are just giving the ball to whomever Mills is guarding.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Mills.

[gambit1990]

He’s always been bad. Playing with Bowen and Duncan makes it easier to hide you

[gambit1990]

add roger mason jr to the list.

[objective]

After Person took his bumpy flight and put on all that weight I don't remember him being that bad in the post against PFs. The big ass kind of helped.

[paperboy77]

Bonner held his own against the Gasol/Zbo frontcourt in 2013. I think he was alright defensively like timvp said.

I can’t remember if Money Mase was really bad on defense but he was hated here during his time on the Spurs.

vs Grizz that yr came to mind. Bonner a very underrated tough defender. Ask z-bo. Didn’t he cause problems for Obama a few times? Always underestimated.

[Hoops Czar]

add roger mason jr to the list.

Why don't you dig up some more Paddy Mills-Tony Parker comparisons. I'm in the mood for a good laugh Mohawk.

[Hoops Czar]

He’s always been bad. Playing with Bowen and Duncan makes it easier to hide you

He was an average to slightly above average defender in his prime.

[sananspursfan21]

Forbes outdoes himself considering his physical tools he has to work with. In a somewhat short sample size, I’d say Novak was the absolute worst. He had 0 basketball skills outside of a 3 point shot. Bonner played some decent D against Howard that one round :lol

[JeffDuncan]

Has any player ever been as feeble as Bertans, so if they just got bumped hard they fell down (not flopping)?

[Hoops Czar]

Has any player ever been as feeble as Bertans, so if they just got bumped hard they fell down (not flopping)?

Pop during the offseaon.

[JeffDuncan]

Yeah well, that's the wine, tho.