Asange charged by US. His only hope is suicide or a Jeremy Corbyn takeover

[hater]

:cry ma niga Julian is at a breaking point. Sick, incommunicated and now officially charged by US. By the Virginia Eastern district court nontheless. That court has 100% conviction rate and most of their jury are fakilies of Intelligence State.

He is basically fucked.

The only hope out of it is suicide whch I woukd seriously consider. Or Jeremy Corbyn.

Teres:lol M:loly is a goner but brittish deep state is fighting back a Corbyn takeover. But there is a ray of hope

Corbyn promised to recognize Palestine, make peace with Russia and would probably save Asange :cry

God please guide Corbyn to victory :cry

[Reck]

Whatever deal the UK has with the US involves handing him over, son.

Assange is a Russian prop. Wikileaks did solid work at the beginning but that lasted about 2 minutes.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/jonathanwpeters/status/1063560442000347136?s=21

[hater]

Whatever deal the UK has with the US involves handing him over, son.

Lol what deal, son?


Assange is a Russian prop. Wikileaks did solid work at the beginning but that lasted about 2 minutes.

Proof of assange russia links? Thanks, son

[Reck]

Lol what deal, son?



Proof of assange russia links? Thanks, son

Umm he's in London and out of US custody?

And lol still in denial about Wikileaks and the Podesta and DNC email leaks. :lol

[Pavlov]

Lol what deal, son?The UK–US extradition treaty of 2003 comes to mind.

[hater]

Umm he's in London and out of US custody?

And you said us and uk have a deal to hand him over. Post details of this deal



And lol still in denial about Wikileaks and the Podesta and DNC email leaks. :lol

Lol still regurgitating accusations with zero proof

[Reck]

And you said us and uk have a deal to hand him over. Post details of this deal


I said whatever deal there is would involved handing him over if in fact he is charged.

That was in response to your lame comment about jeremy Corbyn somehow saving him from anything.

[hater]

So a UK prime minister would have no say on the matter?

:lmao

[Pavlov]

And you said us and uk have a deal to hand him over. Post details of this deal
https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/187784.pdf

[Reck]

So a UK prime minister would have no say on the matter?

:lmao

They would have no incentive in keeping a wanted criminal and souring the relationship with their closest allies. :lol hater

[hater]

They would have no incentive in keeping a wanted criminal and souring the relationship with their closest allies. :lol hater

:lmao thinking a Corbyn led government would give a shit whatbDonald Trumps gov think :lmao

[hater]

Wow even Fake York Times trembling

https://twitter.com/freedomofpress/status/1063564498169081856?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/rcfp/status/1063572126538637312?s=21

[hater]

:cry ma niga Rand Paul. Love this man and love his father :cry

https://twitter.com/thet_room/status/1063574348802473984?s=21

[hater]

:cry ma beautiful nigas

https://twitter.com/chomskyter/status/1063575203844841472?s=21

https://twitter.com/snowden/status/1063520583789539328?s=21

[Pavlov]

lol hater and his twitter heroes are so triggered it must be a good move to prosecute Assange.

[djohn2oo8]

lol hater and his twitter heroes are so triggered it must be a good move to prosecute Assange.
Indeed. Doesn’t espionage carry the death penalty?

[boutons_deux]

Indeed. Doesn’t espionage carry the death penalty?

Assange isn't a spy, he is receiver/handler/publisher of stolen goods

[Millennial_Messiah]

Indeed. Doesn’t espionage carry the death penalty?

Assange isn't a US citizen. Can't do that.

[DMX7]

Assange isn't a spy, he is receiver/handler/publisher of stolen goods

Only stolen goods that hurt the West and never Russia...

[pgardn]

Assange isn't a spy, he is receiver/handler/publisher of stolen goods

And a selfish liar.

[hater]

Assange isn't a US citizen. Can't do that.

Yup

:lol snowflakes it dont work like that

[hater]

Only stolen goods that hurt the West and never Russia...

NYT, WAPO released same stuff he released. They should charge Bezos tbqh :lol

[Reck]

NYT, WAPO released same stuff he released. They should charge Bezos tbqh :lol

Yeah go easy on a non citizen who has broken however many laws but let’s execute a citizen because....hater. :lmao

[hater]

Yeah go easy on a non citizen who has broken however many laws but let’s execute a citizen because....hater. :lmao

They released the same stuff.

Actually US citizen would be in more trouble as they can be charged with treason. They cant with assange :lol

[Reck]

They released the same stuff.

Actually US citizen would be in more trouble as they can be charged with treason. They cant with assange :lol

Life in prison=death sentence. Same shit

[hater]

Life in prison=death sentence. Same shit

Im sure you would disagree if facing those

Anyway lets pray none of that happens thanks to a Corbyn takeover :tu

:pray

[Pavlov]

Im sure you would disagree if facing those

Anyway lets pray none of that happens thanks to a Corbyn takeover :tu

:prayExplain how Corbyn could just deny an extradition request.

[Reck]

Im sure you would disagree if facing those

Anyway lets pray none of that happens thanks to a Corbyn takeover :tu

:pray

I don’t agree with the death penalty. Far too many innocent people unjustifiably get it for me to be comfortable with it.

Life in prison serves the same purpose imo.

[boutons_deux]

Explain how Corbyn could just deny an extradition request.

could claim Assange at risk of execution

[Pavlov]

could claim Assange at risk of executionAnd then the US takes it off the table.

Then what?

[DMX7]

They will not seek the death penalty.

[Nbadan]

https://twitter.com/FrankFigliuzzi1/status/1063407905674653697

[hater]

Snowflakes willing to lose press freedoms forever just for a loooong shot to down Donald Trump

Fucking pathetic bastards :lol

[hater]

https://twitter.com/yourehucklberry/status/1063761891191865344?s=21

[Winehole23]

Jack Goldsmith in The Weekly Standard.

It's not easy to tease out how what Wikileaks does is materially different from ordinary national security reporting.


Journalists publish stolen information all the time without worrying about the legality of the source’s method for obtaining the information. They published and analyzed the Snowden documents, the Manning material, the hacked Sony emails, the Panama Papers, and the leaked NSA and CIA offensive cyber tools, to take just a few examples. In all of these examples, and thousands more, publication and analysis of stolen material may incentivize, and legitimize, the theft.

And yet such material is the lifeblood of reporting, especially national security reporting. If publication of the DNC materials raises ethical issues, so too does the broader commonplace practice of publishing stolen information.https://www.weeklystandard.com/jack-goldsmith/trump-leaks-the-new-york-times-and-the-wikileaks-ization-of-the-american-media

[Winehole23]

Does the motive of the leaker matter?


What would the Times do in a situation where it had important truthful information but did not know the source? We know the answer to this question from the Trump tax return story: It would do everything in its power to verify and corroborate the truth of the information, and then publish. The identity and motive of the source did not matter because the Times did not have that information.

Even when journalists know the source, it is hard to see how the source’s motives can be the touchstone.

[Winehole23]

as to whether it makes any difference whether the leaker is a foreign intelligence service or an affiliate thereof, it seems clear that newspapers have already concluded that there is no legal consequence for divulging classified information, so long as lives are not at stake or it is at least arguable that they are not.


Intuitions differ on these questions, I realize. But if you think information stolen by Russia should be out of bounds and not published, should that ban apply to information stolen by all intelligence agencies? Or only to information stolen by adversarial intelligence services? What about information that comes from sources known to have connections to foreign intelligence services? Or information that comes from citizens from adversary nations? What about information published by WikiLeaks? It is very hard to know where journalists should draw the line beyond the usual one of insisting that the information be truthful and newsworthy, and of disclosing the source of the information.

Whatever the right answer should be, I have little doubt that the Times and other elite news outlets will continue to report truthful and newsworthy information leaked by foreign intelligence services. Indeed, in three ways the Times has organized itself in the last decade to invite such information from foreign intelligence services.

First, the Times has lowered the bar on the publication of classified information in recent years. One reason it has done so, as Assistant General Counsel, David McCraw, acknowledged (https://www.justsecurity.org/34123/video-national-security-transparency-administration/) (47:30 ff.), is that the WikiLeaks and Snowden experiences convinced the Times legal team “that there is no legal consequence from publishing leaks” of classified information, at least where lives are not clearly at stake

[boutons_deux]

motive?

If leaks expose criminal activity, then why not?

If wikileaks exposes DNC/Podesta emails to queer American so-called democratic voting, what crime is being exposed?

good-faith leaking/whisteblowing crimes (eg Pentagon Papers) versus bad-faith political (paid) ratfucking to subvert voting?

false equivalence.

[Winehole23]

in short, journalism of record has come to resemble Wikileaks.

Inferentially, the prosecution of Assange will be chilling for national security reporting in general.


the Times practically invites foreign intelligence services to give it stolen information through its secure drop. The Times boasts (https://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2016/news-tips/index.html#securedrop) that secure drop does “not ask for or require any identifiable information” or “track or log information surrounding our communication.” It also says that information sent via secure drop is stored in encrypted format on its servers and is decrypted and read on a computer unconnected to the Internet.
In all three of these respects, the Times has—under pressure from outlets such as WikiLeaks—become very much like WikiLeaks. Yes, the Times curates and edits and analyzes better than WikiLeaks, and is more selective in what it publishes. But it publishes secret stolen information that it never would have published in the past, and it has set up fancy encrypted mechanisms to solicit such stolen information anonymously.

[hater]

And yet retarded snowflakes will be cheering Assanges crucifixion like its a small W over Trump

:lol brainless twats

[Winehole23]

pretty much.

snowflakes on the other side would have done the same had GWB brought Assange into the dock 12 years ago.

[djohn2oo8]

And yet retarded snowflakes will be cheering Assanges crucifixion like its a small W over Trump

:lol brainless twats
Well maybe Trump and his dumbass family shouldn’t have been in cahoots with Wikileaks.

[hater]

IMO this “accidental” leak of the charging of Assange is not so accidental

Its a test balloon. And based on the retarded response by snowflakes, they will probably proceed. They will use this “getting at Trump” ruse to cut that national security reporting freedom at the bone.

We will forget about any reporting of leaks in the near future.

And snowflakes will still celebrate this as some kind of W.

[hater]

Assange should wait out Corbyn or off himself. Why give the government the satisfaction of using him to do away with nat sec reporting for good?

USA needs him to set legal precedent

[pgardn]

Journalists do not hack into private bank accounts and government lists containing SS numbers etc... and then leak this info. Assange started out with a noble idea and then got full of himself. It's not up to him to fund hacking and then solely decide what is leaked. He got a big massive "I will save the world" head, was told by his own people how the road they were traveling could be very dangerous for perfectly innocent people, and lied to his paid hackers and released stuff in his whimsical way. He acted as judge and jury.

He is a crook. Go to jail.

Executed... what a crock of overblown bull-hockey.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1063797993902653440?s=21

[Winehole23]

Journalists do not hack into private bank accounts and government lists containing SS numbers etc... and then leak this info. Assange started out with a noble idea and then got full of himself. It's not up to him to fund hacking and then solely decide what is leaked. He got a big massive "I will save the world" head, was told by his own people how the road they were traveling could be very dangerous for perfectly innocent people, and lied to his paid hackers and released stuff in his whimsical way. He acted as judge and jury.

He is a crook. Go to jail.what laws did he break and how is what he does any different than NYT's secure drop facility?

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1063797993902653440?s=21:tu

[pgardn]

what laws did he break and how is what he does any different than NYT's secure drop facility?

Does the New York times inform the government of what they were about to leak before hand so as not to create a dangerous situation for innocent individuals ? In other words make sure they do not violate personal privacy and national security issues ?

I’ll answer that.

Yes they do they discuss this amongst themselves and talk to government officials and private companies to make sure what they are getting is correct and so they don’t do a needed harm .

Assange is not a God unto himself

And the New York time is still debating whether what they’re doing is kosher.

[djohn2oo8]

:tu
:lol sure

[djohn2oo8]

Does the New York Times pay people to illegally hack into private bank accounts ?
They can find out what laws when his indictment is unsealed. Though the WAPo clearly states violation of the Espionage act was discussed.

[pgardn]

And I will compare this to Erin Snowden. What Snowden did was very useful but very illegal. He knew what he was taking on and he made himself the man. That’s not the way it’s done in a democracy . So next time you go to the ballot box vote for someone who has thought about whistleblower laws and has good ideas on how to inform government officials about possibly illegal government activities

[pgardn]

And I will compare this to Erin Snowden. What Snowden did was very useful but very illegal. He knew what he was taking on and he made himself the man. That’s not the way it’s done in a democracy . So next time you go to the ballot box vote for someone who has thought about whistleblower laws and has good ideas on how to inform government officials about possibly illegal government activities

[pgardn]

We don’t need self designated all knowing individuals unelected and acting without any discussion or guidance of the bigger picture thinking they are Jesus .

[pgardn]

I understand haters view because the New York Times is just an arm of the CIA, so he has a legitimate concern in his ghost filled world.

[Winehole23]

Does the New York times inform the government of what they were about to leak before hand so as not to create a dangerous situation for innocent individuals ? In other words make sure they do not violate personal privacy and national security issues ?

I’ll answer that.

Yes they do they discuss this amongst themselves and talk to government officials and private companies to make sure what they are getting is correct and so they don’t do a needed harm .

Assange is not a God unto himself

And the New York time is still debating whether what they’re doing is kosher.is there a legal requirement that journalists do so?

again, if the alleged illegality is a matter of the provenance of classified materials, I don't see how the activities of the NYT can be meaningfully distinguished from those of Assange.

[Winehole23]

We don’t need self designated all knowing individuals unelected and acting without any discussion or guidance of the bigger picture thinking they are Jesus .because Assange is a grandiose jerk who ignores ethical and professional norms, he should be thrown in prison.

what would be the legal pretext for doing so, in your opinion?

[Winehole23]

:lol surenot a card carrying member, but in general I'm a fan of the ACLU.

if you check my history of posting here, you'll find more than a few ACLU reposts related to freedom of speech and domestic surveillance.

[hater]

because Assange is a grandiose jerk who ignores ethical and professional norms, he should be thrown in prison.

what would be the legal pretext for doing so, in your opinion?

:tu

Theres a difference between disagreeing with Assange or NYT reporting than having them thrown in jail

These idiots dont understand that once there is legal precedent no organization not the NYT not wapo not CNN will dare report anymore

[Pavlov]

:tu

Theres a difference between disagreeing with Assange or NYT reporting than having them thrown in jail

These idiots dont understand that once there is legal precedent no organization not the NYT not walk nit CNN will dare report anymore
If you're so confident he's protected by the Constitution you should welcome the precedent.

[pgardn]

is there a legal requirement that journalists do so?

again, if the alleged illegality is a matter of the provenance of classified materials, I don't see how the activities of the NYT can be meaningfully distinguished from those of Assange.

In a court of law it might be tough.

But if you don’t see the difference between the New York Times and Julian Assange...

I’m sure there are lawyers who could figure out an argument from my case.

[Winehole23]

so, you're aware of no legal basis for prosecuting Julian Assange, but are determined to see him behind bars.

good to know.

[pgardn]

because Assange is a grandiose jerk who ignores ethical and professional norms, he should be thrown in prison.

what would be the legal pretext for doing so, in your opinion?

None that I know of.
But we clearly need to look for some new laws for whistleblowers as I already stated.
Because these guys are dangerous we already saw this from crazy lady can’t remember her name who just randomly released information .

[Winehole23]

If you're so confident he's protected by the Constitution you should welcome the precedent.NATSEC hysteria trumps the Constitution. We've known this for awhile.

Obama tried to prosecute leakers as spies, only a matter of time until DJT tries too.

[djohn2oo8]

so, you're aware of no legal basis for prosecuting Julian Assange, but are determined to see him behind bars.

good to know.
The Justice Department is aware. That’s what counts :tu

[hater]

so, you're aware of no legal basis for prosecuting Julian Assange, but are determined to see him behind bars.

good to know.

:tu

[pgardn]

so, you're aware of no legal basis for prosecuting Julian Assange, but are determined to see him behind bars.

good to know.

Maybe this whole thing will allow us to make some laws because people like this can’t act on their own in such a whimsical Manner. You understand my argument in a democracy where information is so easily exchanged.

[djohn2oo8]

Maybe this whole thing will allow us to make some laws because people like this can’t act on their own in such a whimsical Manner. You understand my argument in a democracy where information is so easily exchanged.
The Justice Dept is aware. Doesn’t matter what trolls think.

[hater]

There can be only 1 precedent in the Virginia Eastern court. Hundreds of years in prison

Read up on Virginia Eastern court tbqh. Not 1 expneration. Most eligible jurors are family of Intllifence officers and the judges dont allow any defense

[Winehole23]

Maybe this whole thing will allow us to make some laws because people like this can’t act on their own in such a whimsical Manner. You understand my argument in a democracy where information is so easily exchanged.In a world where information is not so easily exchanged we might never have learned about domestic surveillance by the NSA and others, US war crimes, torture, contractor fraud, a raft of official lies to the press -- and even Russian cyberattacks on US elections.

Remember Reality Winner?

[pgardn]

The Justice Dept is aware. Doesn’t matter what trolls think.

Things like this need to be discussed because this is how new laws are made. Cases like this arises in-laws change. I don’t particularly like the timing with the orange man trying to control the department of justice but I can see far enough ahead that this is something that needs to be addressed.

We cannot have individuals stealing information and deciding what is proper to release in a democracy in which sensitive information is so easily exchanged. This is a problem .

[djohn2oo8]

Things like this need to be discussed because this is how new laws are made. Cases like this arises in-laws change. I don’t particularly like the timing with the orange man trying to control the department of justice but I can see far enough ahead that this is something that needs to be addressed.

We cannot have individuals stealing information and deciding what is proper to release in a democracy in which sensitive information is so easily exchanged. This is a problem .
True. And there are laws. At the same time while we know Assange is charged we will have to see what he is charged with.

[hater]

Some ppl here want to make 1984 a reality

Pretty sad

[pgardn]

In a world where information is not so easily exchanged we might never have learned about domestic surveillance by the NSA and others, US war crimes, torture, contractor fraud, a raft of official lies to the press -- and even Russian cyberattacks on US elections.

Remember Reality Winner?

What’s Snowden did was incredibly important .
And illegal. And understandably so .

Again we need whistleblower laws that work.

In a democracy you can have random individuals deciding what’s good for the whole. It’s that simple and my view even if in Snowden‘s case it actually might have benefited the whole. He did not know this . He did not have a chance to discuss this with experts who understand the implications of what this does in a democracy .

[Winehole23]

it's a bit naive to think the USG will apply the laws so that the "straight press" (and allegedly ethical hackers like Snowden) are unaffected and only the Assanges thrown in jail.

Indeed, why is Snowden holed up in Russia?

[pgardn]

Some ppl here want to make 1984 a reality

Pretty sad

Oh the 198for argument always good joker in the hole.
If not that just claim the New York Times is an arm of the CIA.

You are the last person that needs to be discussing the stuff.

[Pavlov]

NATSEC hysteria trumps the Constitution. We've known this for awhile.

Obama tried to prosecute leakers as spies, only a matter of time until DJT tries too.How did Obama's prosecutions go?

What precedents did they set?

[Winehole23]

How did Obama's prosecutions go?

What precedents did they set?Not so well for Obama or their targets, whose professional careers were ruined.

Can't really speak for precedential value, can you?

A few pleaded out to lesser charges, so in some of the cases there was no precedent vis a vis the Espionage Act.

[pgardn]

it's a bit naive to think the USG will apply the laws so that the "straight press" is unaffected and only the Assanges thrown in jail.

Indeed, why is Snowden holed up in Russia?

Snowden is being made and example .
This is pretty obvious that in a democracy this is very serious.

It’s too bad it had to happen this way but when there are not good avenues to inform superiors who then inform the government as Snowden worked for a private company. He must have Understood the gravity of what he was getting ready to do. He could not possibly have known about every piece of information he was releasing.

Again it’s the same old difficult argument, rights of the individual versus the good of the whole

[Winehole23]

Again it’s the same old difficult argument, rights of the individual versus the good of the wholegiven the permanent anti-terror emergency, the power of the USG is at a high water mark; no need to make it any stronger.

[pgardn]

given the permanent anti-terror emergency, the power of the USG is at a high water mark; no need to make it any stronger.

That is a very legitimate argument right now.
But long-term this is a real problem. Elected officials need to discuss this openly with the public.

[hater]

Good interview covering all these topics way ahead of its time

7gKmBgc_4ko

[hater]

Theres still that small matter of Assanges insurnce policy in the form of the unreleased documents distributed to thousands of backup sources.

All they need is the encryption key and pandoras box will be open

At least in the end he can take down a lot of ppl with him :tu

[djohn2oo8]

Theres still that small matter of Assanges insurnce policy in the form of the unreleased documents distributed to thousands of backup sources.

All they need is the encryption key and pandoras box will be open

At least in the end he can take down a lot of ppl with him :tu
He’s a bitch. Be a shame if he rats on Trump :lol

[Winehole23]

Theres still that small matter of Assanges insurnce policy in the form of the unreleased documents distributed to thousands of backup sources.

All they need is the encryption key and pandoras box will be open

At least in the end he can take down a lot of ppl with him :tufor me this is where it gets murky and dangerous.

journalism as a protection racket: nice government you got there, it would be a pity if anything happened to it.

[djohn2oo8]

for me this is where it gets murky and dangerous.

journalism as a protection racket: nice government you got there, it would be a pity if anything happened to it.
It’s not journalism if you are working with Russian Intelligence to disseminate stolen information.

[hater]

for me this is where it gets murky and dangerous.

journalism as a protection racket: nice government you got there, it would be a pity if anything happened to it.

Sure but IMO not as bad as governments saying nice family you got there, would be a pity if anything happened to them

[Winehole23]

It’s not journalism if you are working with Russian Intelligence to disseminate stolen information.we'll see.

as a matter of tradecraft, truthful information about matters of public importance may and does come from any source at all.

[djohn2oo8]

we'll see.

as a matter of tradecraft, truthful information about matters of public importance may and does come from any source at all.
Publishing CIA secrets is a little bit different.

[Winehole23]

Publishing CIA secrets is a little bit different.not if you're the NYT or the WaPo, apparently. they propped themselves up on Assange and Snowden for Pulitzers and Pritzkers.

[djohn2oo8]

not if you're the NYT or the WaPo, apparently. they propped themselves up on Assange and Snowden for Pulitzers and Pritzkers.
When did they publish CIA materials without authorization? NYT and WAPo?

[Spurs Homer]

Most of these arguments might be irrelevant until we find out the actual charges.

I'd go with the justice dept knowing (and having strong evidence) which laws were broken and charge him appropriately.

[djohn2oo8]

Most of these arguments might be irrelevant until we find out the actual charges.

I'd go with the justice dept knowing (and having strong evidence) which laws were broken and charge him appropriately.
Indeed sir.

[Reck]

not if you're the NYT or the WaPo, apparently. they propped themselves up on Assange and Snowden for Pulitzers and Pritzkers.

Reality Winner anyone?

She got caught, charged and is now in prison for stealing and leaking classified information to a news outlet.

Imagine carrying water for Wikileaks.

[djohn2oo8]

Reality Winner anyone?

She got caught, charged and is now in prison for stealing and leaking classified information to a news outlet.

Imagine carrying water for Wikileaks.
Yep she is very much in jail

[Winehole23]

When did they publish CIA materials without authorization? NYT and WAPo?they published Reality Winner's revelations.

did they have proper authorization to do so?

[Reck]

Yep she is very much in jail

And that was actually for a good cause for (In her eyes) trying to exposed the Russians.

[Winehole23]

was that a good cause, in your eyes, Reck?

revealing truthful information about a matter of public importance?

[djohn2oo8]

they published Reality Winner's revelations.

did they have proper authorization to do so?
Share the link please

[Winehole23]

https://www.google.com/search?q=reality+leigh+winner+new+york+times&oq=reality+winner+New+York+trime&aqs

[Winehole23]

The Intercept broke the story, if that's what you meant.

[djohn2oo8]

The Intercept broke the story, if that's what you meant.
Okay it was leaked to the Intercept, not the WaPO. And the Intercept turned it over to the FBI? In short I didn’t see the NYT or WaPO posting actual CIA hacking methods like Wikileaks.

[spurraider21]

When did they publish CIA materials without authorization? NYT and WAPo?
Have you seen The Post​?

[Reck]

was that a good cause, in your eyes, Reck?

revealing truthful information about a matter of public importance?

Does it matter what I think?

Her leaking the info didn't result in anything. What she leaked felt on deaf ears and she got sent to prison for her efforts.

The russians are still laughing.

[djohn2oo8]

Have you seen The Post​?
Not yet I just looked up the synopsis. I’ll check it out.

[Pavlov]

Not so well for Obama or their targets, whose professional careers were ruined.

Can't really speak for precedential value, can you?

A few pleaded out to lesser charges, so in some of the cases there was no precedent vis a vis the Espionage Act.So not much in the way of precedent.

Let's see what the charges are before making a martyr out of stinky.

[djohn2oo8]

So not much in the way of precedent.

Let's see what the charges are before making a martyr out of stinky.
:lol

[Winehole23]

So not much in the way of precedent.

Let's see what the charges are before making a martyr out of stinky.No one said stinky is a martyr, but many have pointed out that prosecuting him might have chilling consequences for journalism more generally.

We'll see.

[Winehole23]

Does it matter what I think?you dodged.

that's ok.

[Pavlov]

No one said stinky is a martyr, but many have pointed out that prosecuting him might have chilling consequences for journalism more generally.

We'll see.But if everyone is so confident he's be protected by the first amendment, they should welcome those charges. Stinky martyr becomes stinky messiah.

If he's actually gets the chilly charges. No one even knows that.

[Reck]

you dodged.

that's ok.

No, I didn't dodge.

I have no opinion on that matter. I said "in her eyes" in quotes. These are not my own feelings. Perception is not your thing and that's ok.

[Reck]

No, I didn't dodge.

I have no opinion on that matter. I said "in her eyes" in quotes. These are not my own feelings. Perception is not your thing and that's ok.

*Correction

IN BRACKETS!

[Spurtacular]

*Correction

IN BRACKETS!

There are no brackets, dumb fucking tranny.

[Reck]

Derp is gonna derp

[boutons_deux]

Publishing CIA secrets is a little bit different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers

[Winehole23]

No, I didn't dodge.

I have no opinion on that matter. I said "in her eyes" in quotes. These are not my own feelings. Perception is not your thing and that's ok.Enthusiasm for the subsequent investigation but none for the whistleblower?

ok.

[Winehole23]

But if everyone is so confident he's be protected by the first amendment, they should welcome those charges.By everyone you mean hater.

[Pavlov]

By everyone you mean hater.You aren't confident he would be exonerated if tried for chilly charges?

[Winehole23]

what are chilly charges?

[Winehole23]

a good rundown of theories of prosecution can be found here:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/11/16/the-theory-of-prosecution-you-love-for-julian-assange-may-look-different-when-applied-to-jason-leopold/

[Pavlov]

what are chilly charges?All these articles were talking about chilling effects. So the charges leading to those effects are chilly charges.

[Sociopath Translator]

All these articles were talking about chilling effects. So the charges leading to those effects are chilly charges.

Translation: Assange cost Hillary the election. He deserves the chair.

[Pavlov]

Translation: Assange cost Hillary the election. He deserves the chair.lol derp

I don't think the death penalty would apply to him. You choose Assange over the US though.

Congratulations.

[Sociopath Translator]

lol derp

I don't think the death penalty would apply to him. You choose Assange over the US though.

Congratulations.

Translation: I don't want to say that Assange should get the chair just yet. But this needs to be explored.

[hater]

Translation: I don't want to say that Assange should get the chair just yet. But this needs to be explored.

:lmao

[hater]

Translation: Assange cost Hillary the election. He deserves the chair.

:lol

[Pavlov]

Translation: I don't want to say that Assange should get the chair just yet. But this needs to be explored.No, he shouldn't get the chair, derp.

That doesn't need to be explored, derp.

lol derp.

[Chump's PR Guy]

No, he shouldn't get the chair, derp.

That doesn't need to be explored, derp.

lol derp.

My client Chump reserves the right to change this opinion at any time and especially as such as when time may come that a reversal of opinion becomes more convenient. He also categorically denies any insinuation that derp'ing is a sign of being triggered.

[DMC]

lol derp

I don't think the death penalty would apply to him. You choose Assange over the US though.

Congratulations.

Patriotism good now

[djohn2oo8]

Patriotism good now
You wouldn’t know about it.

[DMC]

You wouldn’t know about it.

I might

[Pavlov]

*chirp*

[djohn2oo8]

I might
You don’t.

[Fabbs]

My client Chump reserves the right to change this opinion at any time and especially as such as when time may come that a reversal of opinion becomes more convenient. He also categorically denies any insinuation that derp'ing is a sign of being triggered.
Profile "Chumps PR Guy" :lol:toast

[Chris]

You don’t.

Pretty sure he's a veteran.

[DMC]

You don’t.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/sandrindecembre/status/1065155053114327041?s=21

[Chris]

He’s a bitch. Be a shame if he rats on Trump :lol


It’s not journalism if you are working with Russian Intelligence to disseminate stolen information.

1066811560511881217

djohn :lol

[Reck]

:lol "It seems"

:lol Disobedientmedia.com

:lol Chris

[hater]

muller time :lmao

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1067498968584736771?s=21

[hater]

:lmao The Gu:lolrdi:loln

https://twitter.com/tumble_w33d/status/1067743022224498689?s=21

[Pavlov]

muller time :lmao

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1067498968584736771?s=21
But they're making all that money off muh bet with the Guardian.

[hater]

:cry ma niga Julian is at a breaking point. Sick, incommunicated and now officially charged by US. By the Virginia Eastern district court nontheless. That court has 100% conviction rate and most of their jury are fakilies of Intelligence State.

He is basically fucked.

The only hope out of it is suicide whch I woukd seriously consider. Or Jeremy Corbyn.

Teres:lol M:loly is a goner but brittish deep state is fighting back a Corbyn takeover. But there is a ray of hope

Corbyn promised to recognize Palestine, make peace with Russia and would probably save Asange :cry

God please guide Corbyn to victory :cry

Assange arrested by UK

He is fucked

Should have suicide as US will now probe is brain like a monkey

[hater]

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1116273826621480960?s=19

[hater]

https://twitter.com/girlsreallyrule/status/1116297343840681990?s=19

[in2deep]

No charges. He's been arrested on us extradition request

He will most likely be in Guantánamo by next sunday

[hater]

Probably


Let's not forget Chelita Manning is also in jail as US is building a case against Assange for his role in Collateral Murder. They are basically torturing Chelita into helping them

Chelita is a true warrior and will not cooperate with deep state. But regardless Assange will be probed like rat until he dies

[baseline bum]

He'll get pardoned along with Manafort

[pgardn]

Assad, Kim, Putin, Assange...


All sent love letters from hater.

[hater]

^ you forgot to add Hitler, the devil and your mother in law, clown :lmao


What crime did Assange commit Nancy?

[djohn2oo8]

He'll get pardoned along with Manafort
Manafort won’t get pardoned and even if he does he has been charged by the state of New York and can’t be pardoned there

[djohn2oo8]

1116324801281445888

[hater]

Let's not forget Chelita Manning is also in jail as US is building a case against Assange for his role in Collateral Murder. They are basically torturing Chelita into helping them



Called Dat shit :tu

Assange charged with helping Chelita unmask Collateral Murder

[hater]

Without Chelitas help I don't think they have case at all.

Don't break Chelita :tu :tu

You are my heroine

[djohn2oo8]

1116283158943666176

:lmao quivering like a bitch

[hater]

Snowflakes willing to lose press freedoms forever just for a loooong shot to down Donald Trump

Fucking pathetic bastards :lol

[hater]

And yet retarded snowflakes will be cheering Assanges crucifixion like its a small W over Trump

:lol brainless twats

Called Dat shit :tu

[hater]

There can be only 1 precedent in the Virginia Eastern court. Hundreds of years in prison

Read up on Virginia Eastern court tbqh. Not 1 expneration. Most eligible jurors are family of Intllifence officers and the judges dont allow any defense

[hater]

Hearing lots of Trump voters (antiwar wing) threatening to not vote for trump in 2020 if Assange is comvicted

I predict a muted tons by Trump on this

He cannot afford to lose those voters. He loses them and he is fucked

[Spurs Homer]

1116283158943666176

:lmao quivering like a bitch


trump; “I love wikileaks!”

lololololol


trump will quiver the same way

[Spurs Homer]

Haters hero is not only a piece of shit - hacker -

he is also a "finger painter"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6912403/Julian-Assange-smeared-faeces-walls-Ecuadors-London-embassy.html



:lmao:lmao:lmao

[spurraider21]

will be intersting to see exactly what the charges are. obvious concerns of free speech erosion. hacking is a difference story

precedent of dodging the criminal system of multiple nations by hiding in an embassy as well...

[Spurs Homer]

will be intersting to see exactly what the charges are. obvious concerns of free speech erosion. hacking is a difference story

precedent of dodging the criminal system of multiple nations by hiding in an embassy as well...

That is why - so far - the charges are only about him helping to break the code to hack into us gov't systems -

I think they don't want to make it a broad hacking vs journalism pandoras box...

[hater]

They are currently torturing Chelita Manning into a false statement that will say Assange helped her.

Who knows what kind of psy ops they are doing to poor Chelita. Animals

She is probably in room 101 right now

.as George describes:
"room 101, the basement torture chamber in the ministry of love. In which the Party attempts to subject a prisoner to his or her own worst nightmare, fear or phobia. Whith the sole object of breaking down their resistance."

She's probably there with Bloody Gina :(


Stay strong Chelita

[djohn2oo8]

will be intersting to see exactly what the charges are. obvious concerns of free speech erosion. hacking is a difference story

precedent of dodging the criminal system of multiple nations by hiding in an embassy as well...

1116352244486742019

[hater]

That is why - so far - the charges are only about him helping to break the code to hack into us gov't systems -

I think they don't want to make it a broad hacking vs journalism pandoras box...

They already opened the box

https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1116336550873317377?s=19

[hater]

Hearing lots of Trump voters (antiwar wing) threatening to not vote for trump in 2020 if Assange is comvicted

I predict a muted tons by Trump on this

He cannot afford to lose those voters. He loses them and he is fucked

Called dat shit :tu

Speaking to journalists in the oval office on Thursday hours after the arrest of Assange in London, Trump said: “I know nothing about WikiLeaks. It’s not my thing.”

[hater]

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1116296902142771200?s=19

[hater]

What started it all:


bullets out of their bodies.

The newly released video of the Baghdad attacks was recorded on one of two Apache helicopters hunting for insurgents on 12 July 2007. Among the dead were a 22-year-old Reuters photographer, Namir Noor-Eldeen, and his driver, Saeed Chmagh, 40. The Pentagon blocked an attempt by Reuters to obtain the video through a freedom of information request. Wikileaks director Julian Assange said his organisation had to break through encryption by the military to view it.

In the recording, the helicopter crews can be heard discussing the scene on the street below. One American claims to have spotted six people with AK-47s and one with a rocket-propelled grenade. It is unclear if some of the men are armed but Noor-Eldeen can be seen with a camera. Chmagh is talking on his mobile phone.

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One of the helicopter crew is then heard saying that one of the group is shooting. But the video shows there is no shooting or even pointing of weapons. The men are standing around, apparently unperturbed.

The lead helicopter, using the moniker Crazyhorse, opens fire. "Hahaha. I hit 'em," shouts one of the American crew. Another responds a little later: "Oh yeah, look at those dead bastards."

One of the men on the ground, believed to be Chmagh, is seen wounded and trying to crawl to safety. One of the helicopter crew is heard wishing for the man to reach for a gun, even though there is none visible nearby, so he has the pretext for opening fire: "All you gotta do is pick up a weapon." A van draws up next to the wounded man and Iraqis climb out. They are unarmed and start to carry the victim to the vehicle in what would appear to be an attempt to get him to hospital. One of the helicopters opens fire with armour-piercing shells. "Look at that. Right through the windshield," says one of the crew. Another responds with a laugh.

Sitting behind the windscreen were two children who were wounded.

After ground forces arrive and the children are discovered, the American air crew blame the Iraqis. "Well it's their fault for bringing kids in to a battle," says one. "That's right," says another.

Initially the US military said that all the dead were insurgents. Then it claimed the helicopters reacted to an active firefight. Assange said that the video demonstrated that neither claim was true.

[hater]

5rXPrfnU3G0

[hater]

https://twitter.com/froomkin/status/1116340898361761792?s=19

[koriwhat]

Haters hero is not only a piece of shit - hacker -

he is also a "finger painter"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6912403/Julian-Assange-smeared-faeces-walls-Ecuadors-London-embassy.html



:lmao:lmao:lmao

oh how history is rewritten when history isn't on your side no longer... not even a decade has passed when julian was the darling of the left. lmao at how clueless you truly are.

[Pavlov]

Never liked the guy and can't respect people who never questioned anything he did.

[baseline bum]

Hearing lots of Trump voters (antiwar wing) threatening to not vote for trump in 2020 if Assange is comvicted


Yeah right they'd vote for him if he fellated Kim at home plate of Yankee Stadium on Live TV because at least he didn't lick his ass like Hillary would have

[Pavlov]

Hearing lots of Trump voters (antiwar wing) threatening to not vote for trump in 2020 if Assange is comvictedNo you're not.

There is no "antiwar wing" -- there are only Trump supporters. The only thing Trump has to do to keep their votes is to be on the ballot.

[Reck]

Everyone’s day comes. He looked like Sadam Hussein being hauled out of his hole. Night night

[Pavlov]

They already opened the box

https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1116336550873317377?s=19Assange offered to help Manning crack a US Department of Defense password.

That is not journalism.

[TSA]

Manafort won’t get pardoned and even if he does he has been charged by the state of New York and can’t be pardoned there

Your predictions have worked out so well recently :rollin

[hater]

MA niga Corbyn :cry

Called Dat shit

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1116424423953903616?s=19

[hater]

Me I called it

Me

[ChumpDumper]

He shouldn't have offered to hack the DoD.

That was pretty fucking stupid.

:lmao Chelsea kept the receipts

[Winehole23]

Assange offered to help Manning crack a US Department of Defense password.

That is not journalism.You might want to tell the NYT and WaPo that receiving classified, password-protected information could be indictable, they won Pulitzer Prizes off the info Assange/Snowden gave them. They also have secure, anonymized info drops, is that not encouraging people to crack passwords?

https://www.weeklystandard.com/jack-goldsmith/trump-leaks-the-new-york-times-and-the-wikileaks-ization-of-the-american-media

[hater]

You might want to tell the NYT and WaPo that receiving classified, password-protected information is indictable, they won Pulitzer Prizes off the info Assange/Snowden gave them.

shhh Pavlov thinks Assange is the only journalist in history that has cracked a password :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

You might want to tell the NYT and WaPo that receiving classified, password-protected information is indictable, they won Pulitzer Prizes off the info Assange/Snowden gave them.Read this again:

Assange offered to help Manning crack a US Department of Defense password.

That is not journalism.

If you have examples of journalists working for WaPo or the NYT offering to hack DoD passwords for a person stealing that information, post them right now. I would love to read all about them.

[ChumpDumper]

shhh Pavlov thinks Assange is the only journalist in history that has cracked a password :lmaoIf you have examples of journalists working for WaPo or the NYT offering to hack DoD passwords for a person stealing that information, post them right now. I would love to read all about them.

Let's see 'em.

[Winehole23]

Read this again:

Assange offered to help Manning crack a US Department of Defense password.

That is not journalism.It's not spying either. Maybe it is indictable as a computer crime.

I'm inclined to agree with what hater said. This is mainly about showing up Wikileaks for showing up the USG as corrupt and lying, which touches the core mission of journalism: holding power accountable for what it does.

[hater]

If you have examples of journalists working for WaPo or the NYT offering to hack DoD passwords for a person stealing that information, post them right now. I would love to read all about them.

Let's see 'em.

I didn't say that. Read my statement again.

on the Manning case, Assange did not offer. Manning asked if he could hack passwords and he said yes. There was no discussing as to what that password was going to be used for.

[hater]

and LOL thinking US would go to these lenghts to punish a password hack attempt (unsucsessful on top)

they would charge assange with jaywalking if it meant getting their hands on him. they obviously want to punish him for leaking US dirty underwear

[Reck]

It's not spying either. Maybe it is indictable as a computer crime.

I'm inclined to agree with what hater said. This is mainly about showing up Wikileaks for showing up the USG as corrupt and lying, which touches the core mission of journalism: holding power accountable for what it does.

Assange is a scumbag. Full stop

Wikileaks may have started out as a haven for whistleblower but they are certainly not that anymore. Basically a hack station for hire these days.

[Winehole23]

Do I think Assange is sleazy? Yes.

Do I think Wikileaks itself became a racket at some point, yep.

Hackers can and do serve the public. Assange had his moment, it certainly seems to have impressed the USA enough to extradite Assange for an offense that did the USA no harm.

[boutons_deux]

It's not spying either. Maybe it is indictable as a computer crime.

I'm inclined to agree with what hater said. This is mainly about showing up Wikileaks for showing up the USG as corrupt and lying, which touches the core mission of journalism: holding power accountable for what it does.

Helping a Federal criminal to steal secret govt info is Federal criminal complicity.

And yes, US gov certainly seeks revenge for being embarrassed, humiliated before its allies, its enemies, and the world for not being able to keep its butt cheeks together.

[ChumpDumper]

It's not spying either. Maybe it is indictable as a computer crime.Maybe you should read the indictment.


I didn't say that. Read my statement again.

on the Manning case, Assange did not offer. Manning asked if he could hack passwords and he said yes. There was no discussing as to what that password was going to be used for.:lmao She was locked out of her iPod?

[hater]

https://twitter.com/TimWill4JC/status/1116444794849505300

[Winehole23]

Maybe you should read the indictment.I've not read it, what does it say?

[ChumpDumper]

I've not read it, what does it say?He is charged with a computer related crime.

[Winehole23]

He is charged with a computer related crime.Thanks!

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/TimWill4JC/status/1116444794849505300

Snowden should start investigating those suspect deaths of journalists since he's in mother Russia then. Let's see how exposing putin works out for him.

Just sayin..

[spurraider21]

you can access the indictment here

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/press-release/file/1153481

1 count for conspiracy to commit computer intrustion

[spurraider21]

It's not spying either. Maybe it is indictable as a computer crime.

I'm inclined to agree with what hater said. This is mainly about showing up Wikileaks for showing up the USG as corrupt and lying, which touches the core mission of journalism: holding power accountable for what it does.
following the core mission of journalism isn't a get out of jail free card for crimes committed in the process of doing so.

[Winehole23]

following the core mission of journalism isn't a get out of jail free card for crimes committed in the process of doing so.Oh I agree, just countering people saying Assange is somehow a foreigner to the aims and methods of journalism.

He clearly isn't, the print media seems to have assimilated his model.

[in2deep]

Snowden should start investigating those suspect deaths of journalists since he's in mother Russia then. Let's see how exposing putin works out for him.

Just sayin..

Snowden is an investigator now?

[Reck]

Snowden is an investigator now?

Ignorance is bliss then.

[in2deep]

Ignorance is bliss then.

Do you even know what was Snowdens profession?

[Reck]

Do you even know what was Snowdens profesión?

That is irrelevant to what's in his quote to which I replied to.

If it's actually his to begin with. You cant say government A are criminals while also hiding in one that's just as bad, if not worse. Also one that is fairly hostile toward us to begin with.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1116446982342529024?s=19

[Spurs Homer]

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1116446982342529024?s=19

Disappointing that she would say something that stupid (if it is a real quote)

Journalism is publishing info and reporting info -

if a person steals a document and gives it to a journalist and the journalist publishes -

only the hacker/thief is prosecuted and the journalist is protected by the first amendment


if a journalist STEALS OR HACKS a document and then publishes it - they might not get prosecuted for publishing it -
but they will get prosecuted for stealing it/hacking it

big difference

also

this piece of shit assange - NEVER - exposed anything from Russia - did he?

[DMC]

If we've learned anything it's the you have to create the document from thin air and claim it to be from sources, then publish it. Stealing is just wrong.

[Winehole23]

you can access the indictment here

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/press-release/file/1153481

1 count for conspiracy to commit computer intrustion....elements of which include ordinary journalistic activities like having a system for secure, anonymized transfer of information and protecting sources.

[in2deep]

also

this piece of shit assange - NEVER - exposed anything from Russia - did he?

You sir, are an idiot

https://wikileaks.org//spyfiles/russia/

[Pavlov]

....elements of which include ordinary journalistic activities like having a system for secure, anonymized transfer of information and protecting sources.
lol no

He's not charged with helping Manning encrypt files to put in Dropbox.

[Winehole23]

lol no

He's not charged with helping Manning encrypt files to put in Dropbox.I skimmed the indictment, that is an element of the conspiracy. I get that it's not unusual for a criminal context to render otherwise legal activities illegal, but it's simply obtuse to insist that this indictment doesn't describe ordinary features of journalism as elements of a criminal conspiracy.

All a President would have to do to neuter a paper is declare it a hostile intelligence service, then go after journos for conspiring with sources.

As unlikely as that eventuality seems, this kind of prosecution can have a chilling effect on the press far short of it..

[Spurminator]

:lol

1116698991243268096

[Winehole23]

The truth is whatever the leader says it is.

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1116446982342529024?s=19

She's a whole new kind of nut. I can see why you like her. :lol

Some of the things she had said are beyond being high.

[spurraider21]

....elements of which include ordinary journalistic activities like having a system for secure, anonymized transfer of information and protecting sources.
assange isn't being tried for having a system for secure transfers of information

[Winehole23]

assange isn't being tried for having a system for secure transfers of informationI didn't say he was, though additional charges might be laid once Assange gets here.

What I said, or was trying to say, is that some of the elements of the conspiracy sound a lot like ordinary journalistic practices.

It's possible the USG is pursuing a narrowly tailored case just for Assange, while seeking to intimidate the press at the same time.

It's frankly not too hard to imagine Trump outlawing a major newspaper at this point.

[spurraider21]

I didn't say he was, though additional charges might be laid once Assange gets here.

What I said, or was trying to say, is that some of the elements of the conspiracy sound a lot like ordinary journalistic practices.

It's possible the USG is pursuing a narrowly tailored case just for Assange, while seeking to intimidate the press at the same time.

It's frankly not too hard to imagine Trump outlawing a major newspaper at this point.
what specifically are you concerned about from the existing indictment?

[Winehole23]

what specifically are you concerned about from the existing indictment?I'm concerned for the same reason everyone else is; the case could be used as a template to wreck media outlets unfriendly to the government and/or to chill all unfavorable coverage.

[spurraider21]

I'm concerned for the same reason everyone else is; the case could be used as a template to wreck media outlets unfriendly to the government and/or to chill all unfavorable coverage.
you referred to specific elements of the indictment that concerned you.. can you point them out? page/line

[Winehole23]

Sure, I'll be in the car for the next hour or so, happy to cite when I safely can.

[boutons_deux]

makes the case that the US gov case is strictly political revenge

7 Years of Lies About Assange Won’t Stop Now

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/04/12/7-years-of-lies-about-assange-wont-stop-now/ (https://consortiumnews.com/2019/04/12/7-years-of-lies-about-assange-wont-stop-now/)

[Pavlov]

makes the case that the US gov case is strictly political revenge

7 Years of Lies About Assange Won’t Stop Now

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/04/12/7-years-of-lies-about-assange-wont-stop-now/ (https://consortiumnews.com/2019/04/12/7-years-of-lies-about-assange-wont-stop-now/)


From the moment he sought asylum, Assange was cast as an outlaw.

Well, seeking asylum to avoid criminal prosecution will do that.

[in2deep]

Well, seeking asylum to avoid criminal prosecution will do that.

Except he was not charged with anything when he sought asylum

[Pavlov]

Except he was not charged with anything when he sought asylumExcept he was going to be extradited to Sweden.

[in2deep]

Except he was going to be extradited to Sweden.

We don't know that. But thanks for trying nortradumbus

[Pavlov]

We don't know that. But thanks for trying nortradumbus:lol Assange sure knew that.

The British court ruled he should be extradited, so Assange asked for asylum in a closet under the stairs.

That's how it happened.

You can't change it.

[Reck]

We don't know that. But thanks for trying nortradumbus

Sure we do.

The evidence is that he sought asylum.

Besides being an unethetical person, he's also an alledge rapist. I :lol at people who defend this guy. Even if you discount the fact he exposed the government which isn't entirely bad, there is the fact he's a sexual assaulter.

[spurraider21]

Sure we do.

The evidence is that he sought asylum.

Besides being an unethetical person, he's also an alledge rapist. I :lol at people who defend this guy. Even if you discount the fact he exposed the government which isn't entirely bad, there is the fact he's a sexual assaulter.
choose one

[Winehole23]

you referred to specific elements of the indictment that concerned you.. can you point them out? page/linePages 5-6, "Manner and Means of the Conspiracy, 18-21

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/press-release/file/1153481/download

[Reck]

choose one

Yeah I thought about it after the post went through. Alledge sexual assaulter then.

BTW, Sweden is looking to re-open the case now that he's in the wind per se.

[Winehole23]

Signal, anonymous contact and dropboxes are all ordinary ways to protect journalistic sources, but here they are evidence of a criminal conspiracy.

All that would be required to transpose this template onto MSNBC or the NYT would be to declare them hostile to the USA, then to go after writers and sources who've embarrassed the US government.

[spurraider21]

Signal, anonymous contact and dropboxes are all ordinary ways to protect journalistic sources, but here they are evidence of a criminal conspiracy.

All that would be required to transpose this template onto MSNBC or the NYT would be to declare them hostile to the USA, then to go after writers and sources who've embarrassed the US government.
there is nothing that suggests those acts, in and of themselves, are criminal. in a conspiracy to commit murder, a prosecutor can write that person A bought bleach, person B bought rope, etc when describing the manners and means or "acts furthering" the conspiracy. that doesnt mean anybody who buys bleach is suddenly at risk of being guilty of conspiracy to commit murder

[Winehole23]

there is nothing that suggests those acts, in and of themselves, are criminal. in a conspiracy to commit murder, a prosecutor can write that person A bought bleach, person B bought rope, etc when describing the manners and means or "acts furthering" the conspiracy. that doesnt mean anybody who buys bleach is suddenly at risk of being guilty of conspiracy to commit murderI get that legal actvities can be part of a criminal scheme and said something similar upstream.

[hater]

Sure we do.

The evidence is that he sought asylum.

Besides being an unethetical person, he's also an alledge rapist. I :lol at people who defend this guy. Even if you discount the fact he exposed the government which isn't entirely bad, there is the fact he's a sexual assaulter.

He sought asylum because he had a very good feeling the US was going for him.

Do you seriously think he would go into hiding for 7 years on an alleged sexuL assault bogus case that he knew he would easily win in swedeni? :lmao :lol

[Winehole23]

spurraider21: If you think the Trump Administration isn't trying to intimidate journalists here and abroad, well and fine, I disagree.

[hater]

I'm starting to think US and UK were baited INTO making a move

The current charges are weak. They barely have a case and they are losing the public opinion

Unless they have a bunch of charges coming up they are in for another embarrassment

I hear they are deliberating in the 9th circuit Court right now they must be in a crunch to bring in more charges. The one charge is a joke.

Also the fact that Chelita Manning is still locked up on contempt is a big sign they are pissed

[spurraider21]

I get that legal actvities can be part of a criminal scheme and said something similar upstream.

then i dont see why you're concerned about the below...


Pages 5-6, "Manner and Means of the Conspiracy, 18-21

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/press-release/file/1153481/download

you understand that legal activities can be part of a criminal scheme but expressed concern for legal activities being described as part of a criminal scheme here


spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905): If you think the Trump Administration isn't trying to intimidate journalists here and abroad, well and fine, I disagree.
i'm not ruling out the possibility. but the charges seem to be very narrow with respect to the hacking/attempted hacking.

its also why this was my first post in this thread after his arrest


will be intersting to see exactly what the charges are. obvious concerns of free speech erosion. hacking is a difference story

precedent of dodging the criminal system of multiple nations by hiding in an embassy as well...

[boutons_deux]

"alledge rapist. .. sexual assaulter"

the two girls were CIA plants, willfully spent the night with Assange, a sting, then claimed rape

[Ball Buster]

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1116446982342529024?s=19

Awesome politician, calling out the press for their bullshit propaganda. It’s supposed to b the other way around. Love how she called the Russiagate hoax years ago, when the press still cling to that bullshit

[TSA]

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unbelievable

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117528559348867087
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117530121706070016
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117530657817858050
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117531661867081729
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117533298908172289
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117534238209912833
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117535071110615041
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117535765712515072
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117537058879365124
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117538013427511296
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117538626915721216

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117528559348867087
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117530121706070016
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117530657817858050
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117531661867081729
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117533298908172289
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117534238209912833
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117535071110615041
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117535765712515072
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117537058879365124
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117538013427511296
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1117538626915721216Now do his Seth Rich thread.

[pgardn]

^ you forgot to add Hitler, the devil and your mother in law, clown :lmao


What crime did Assange commit Nancy?

What crimes did any of them commit fucktard call det shit?

[TSA]

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[boutons_deux]

Assange isn't American, committed no crime in America (or anywhere), was exercising Free Speech.

Not that American Empire gives a shit about human rights or laws, but America has no "standing" to charge Assange with anything.

The first Swedish prosecutor dropped charges of rape claimed by two CIA ladies who got into bed with Assange ("what were they thinking"), so CIA got another prosecutor to reinstate the charges.

[Pavlov]

1117754585093771265
So you dropped the Seth Rich conspiracy theory too?

When did that happen?

[boutons_deux]

Looks like CIA's Swedish whores gonna get their bogus (both women slept with Assange) rape cases going again

Sweden reopens rape case against Julian Assange

Lawyer for woman involved in allegations from 2010 has asked for investigation to resume

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/may/13/sweden-reopens-case-against-julian-assange (https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/may/13/sweden-reopens-case-against-julian-assange)

... and the career-padding new prosecutor who re-opened the dropped case.

[hater]

:cry ma niga Julian is at a breaking point. Sick, incommunicated and now officially charged by US. By the Virginia Eastern district court nontheless. That court has 100% conviction rate and most of their jury are fakilies of Intelligence State.

He is basically fucked.

The only hope out of it is suicide whch I woukd seriously consider. Or Jeremy Corbyn.

Teres:lol M:loly is a goner but brittish deep state is fighting back a Corbyn takeover. But there is a ray of hope

Corbyn promised to recognize Palestine, make peace with Russia and would probably save Asange :cry

God please guide Corbyn to victory :cry

Called this shit months ago.

Now assange is about to get extradited to US. He should have killed himself when he had the chance. Now he will be turned into a test subject by US scientists and his brain probed like a mouses. He is fucked and will probably end up brain dead.

Corbyn has about a 5% chance of becoming next pm. He is a weak moron for his latest passive emo behavior. Won't matter as Assange will be sent to US in the next few days.