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Manu20
10-25-2005, 04:05 PM
SPECIAL PREVIEW EDITION
Spurs ready to repeat

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Chris Broussard ESPN Mag
The rich got richer.

Ric Bucher ESPN Mag
The Spurs are deeper than last year, with no chemistry issues to derail them. If they don't repeat as champions, there should be a congressional hearing – not that that will provide any answers, but you know what I'm saying.

John Carroll Scouts Inc.
The rich get richer, adding Finley, Van Exel and Oberto. Best defensive team in the NBA, with Duncan on the inside and Bruce Bowen on the perimeter. They have all the ingredients to repeat: talent, depth, defense, experience and coaching.

Chad Ford ESPN Insider
The world champs got deeper in the offseason both in the frontcourt and backcourt. They are head and shoulders above everyone else in the West now.

John Hollinger ESPN Insider
The premier organization in basketball, if not in all sports. Though the Spurs are the worst nightmare for the NBA marketing people, their stingy defense and seamless chemistry are a winning combo.

Scoop Jackson ESPN Page 2
Getting Nick will prove bigger than getting Mike Finley. So deep, they're bottomless.

Eric Neel ESPN Page 2
What's not to like? Only drama comes in worrying about whether Duncan is, and stays, healthy.

Jim O'Brien ESPN Insider
Spurs are destined for another run at the title. They have added a great piece with Michael Finley. Loaded with confidence and depth, they should be unstoppable in the West.

Will Perdue ESPN Insider
Foes can only hope Tim Duncan protests the dress code, gets suspended and misses some games. He will tuck in his game jersey but not his dress shirt. Look for more production from Brent Barry.

Chris Sheridan ESPN.com Insider
Every year, the Spurs sleepwalk through the first three months of the season before hitting their peak form in March and early April. The difference this time is their depth, which should fuel a stronger start and a run toward 68-69 victories.

Marc Stein ESPN.com
They're not going to win 70 games, because the Spurs generally start slow and because Gregg Popovich won't waste energy letting them chase the number. They have the deepest roster in club history.

Hollinger's Player Spotlight

The coaches have voted Tim Duncan first-team All-Defense six of the eight seasons he's been in the league, but the writers have this giant blind spot toward him when it comes to Defensive Player of the Year voting. Last season, for instance, Duncan got only six votes for the award and finished fourth in the voting. Marcus Camby, who played fewer minutes and was less effective when he played, got 19 votes. Huh?

The past two years Duncan has been the linchpin of two of the best defensive teams in history, and yet he has never won the Defensive Player of the Year trophy. He wasn't even the highest-finishing Spur, as teammate Bruce Bowen beat him in the voting for two straight seasons. I realize Duncan isn't as spectacular as some other players and doesn't come flying in from left field to swat shots into the 12th row, but is that really our criterion? If the writers are covering teams for 82 games they should be able to see beyond this. The guy is a one-man roadblock.

What people fail to understand about Duncan is how hard it is to combine dominant shot-blocking with dominant rebounding. Most players who block shots do so in part by leaving the defensive boards exposed. If a player leaves his man to go for a block and jumps as high as he can to get it, his man has an open path to the basket. Thus, if the player fails to block the shot, his man can easily get an offensive rebound and score.

Duncan almost never gets out of position like this. He blocks some shots without jumping at all, and on others he uses his long arms and timing to deflect the shot with just a quick hop. As a result, he never leaves the offensive boards exposed even as he's blocking shots at a prodigious rate. Last season Duncan blocked 3.1 shots per 40 minutes while posting the third-best Rebound Rate at his position, both of which were better rates than Wallace's.

Duncan had the league's best Defensive PER by far, and his numbers the year before were just as dominant. Over the past two seasons, the Spurs gave up 7.3 points more per 48 minutes when Duncan left the court. The same numbers for Bowen, Ben Wallace and Ron Artest are 3.0, 3.3, and 4.6 respectively. No disrespect to those three, but Duncan is clearly the best defensive player in the game. Maybe some day the writers will notice.

Offensively, he's no slouch either. His trademark bank shot from the left block is the centerpiece of a diverse post game. Duncan has markedly cut his Turnover Ratio the past two seasons, but he needs to develop more moves going to his left, and it would be nice if he'd learn how to shoot a lefty layup. Otherwise, the only noteworthy accomplishment is Duncan's incredible consistency. His past three seasons are virtual carbon copies, and it seems he can keep producing them ad infinitum.

Fundamental vs. Diesel

If anyone can overshadow Shaq, it's Tim Duncan. A Spurs-Heat NBA Finals would be a heavyweight match for a fourth title and serious bragging rights.

Tim Legler, ESPN Insider
Legs on Spurs: It looks like I'll be spending a good part of June down by the river. As in, the River Walk.

It's become commonplace (three titles in seven years) in recent years to see the Spurs drifting merrily on a ferry celebrating another NBA crown. This year, however, may be the best team the Spurs have ever had. Over the last three seasons we have seen Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker form one of the best trios in recent memory.

When you throw in stopper Bruce Bowen, sharpshooters Brent Barry and Robert Horry, and rebounder/shot blocker Nazr Mohammed, you have the most well-rounded team in the league.

What's scary is the Spurs have added Michael Finley and Nick Van Exel, two veteran players hungry for a title and capable of carrying the offense from time to time so the Big Three can get a little more rest in order to stay fresh for another long postseason run.

The unselfish framework that Gregg Popovich has created will lead to Duncan's first back-to-back NBA titles.

Coach's Corner

Gregg Popovich
Experience: 9 years
Reg. season record: 455-233
Playoff record: 69-41
NBA Titles: 3

Coach Pop might be the best there is in the NBA.

After winning his third NBA crown, his Spurs got better over the summer, adding Michael Finley and Nick Van Exel.

Duncan's free-throw shooting and a less-than-stellar 21-20 road record are seemingly the only problem areas that need to be addressed.

– Jim O'Brien, ESPN.com Insider

Hollinger's Q & A

Where do the new guys fit in?
San Antonio bolstered the roster in the offseason with three acquisitions -- point guard Nick Van Exel, swingman Michael Finley, and big man Fabricio Oberto.

Finley was the biggest catch, although his production diminished in his final season in Dallas. The Spurs will hope he can bounce back after offseason surgery for bone spurs in his ankle and regain some of the hops from his younger days. Even if he doesn't, Finley is a good outside shooter who rarely turns the ball over, so he should fit in easily as the Spurs' sixth man. His main adjustments will be learning how to come off the bench and getting used to the shuttle substitution methods of Gregg Popovich.

Van Exel might not see much action during the regular season, but he is Popovich's insurance policy if Beno Udrih flames out in the playoffs again (plus, signing Van Exel helped lure Finley, his former teammate).

Instead, the most important addition might be the most unknown player of the group, Oberto. The Spurs might lean on the big man from Argentina for big minutes so Robert Horry will be fresh for the postseason, particularly if they decide to phase Rasho Nesterovic out of the rotation. Oberto has played in Spain the past few seasons, putting up very solid numbers, although -- unusual for a Spur -- his reputation is mainly as an offensive player.

Fantasy Fix

Sleeper: Manu Ginobili's stats keep improving every year, and they will again. Fantasy owners recall Manu was a top-10 player the first two months last season before dropping off. Don't expect a ton of rebounds or assists, but Ginobili is a fine shooter who could score 18 points a night as he takes over more responsibility from Tim Duncan.

Bust: Michael Finley could have chosen to play with a team that needed him to score 20 points a night. Instead, he opted for playoff success, which in this case, means fantasy bust. Finley has the name value, but he's lost a few steps. Don't expect him to come close to matching his 15.7 points per game or other stats.

– Eric Karabell

HB22inSA
10-25-2005, 04:30 PM
I believe the Spurs still have the best combined road record in the NBA over the past 8 years?

They lost a bunch of road games without Timmy, so if they're healthy, they should win between 26-30 games on the road.

BigVee
10-25-2005, 04:41 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but it scares me when everyone feels the Spurs are such overwhelming favorites. You got to believe other players on other teams will be highly motivated after reading this stuff. I like it better when the Spurs are ignored.

sprrs
10-25-2005, 04:58 PM
I kind of disagree with Hollinger's piece about defense. Not that I disagree, but I think those stats were manipulated just to suit his cause. In Bowen's case, when he leaves the floor, it's usually because the (star) player he's guarding leaves the floor also, so you can't really expect much of a change in that stat. We all should be used to Hollinger's obsession with stats, but still thought I should point it out.

boutons
10-25-2005, 05:39 PM
All this talk about Spurs being "perfect", 06 Champions in Nov 05, etc, etc makes me nervous as hell. So many things can go wrong, it's common knowledge that repeating is extremely difficult, etc, etc.

It's even worse that "journalists" and some fans think Nick and Michael will be key, some kind of game-changing, quality-upping contributors, when they are faced, at their advanced, infirm ages, with cracking a Championship rotation that wasn't missing any key pieces in the first place, and simultaneously trying to master Pop's system, esp getting over the "no defense, no minutes" barrier.

bull62400
10-25-2005, 05:46 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but it scares me when everyone feels the Spurs are such overwhelming favorites. You got to believe other players on other teams will be highly motivated after reading this stuff. I like it better when the Spurs are ignored.

I understand what u mean. But in my perspective, I think its about time we are recognized as a force in the NBA than a team who is good but are a bunch of "softies." If ESPN is overwhelmingly giving the Spurs attention and are the clear favorites, I say it's about damn time. Go Spurs Go.

sanman53
10-25-2005, 10:17 PM
I agree with the comment about the slow start. After the all-star break though, it is going to be all San Antonio Spurs. They seem to always do better after the break, and with this team finally "getting it together" by then, the sky is the limit. Usually that 7-8 game road trip finally brings us together.

SO SPURS GO!

DesiSpur_21
10-25-2005, 10:38 PM
I kind of disagree with Hollinger's piece about defense. Not that I disagree, but I think those stats were manipulated just to suit his cause. In Bowen's case, when he leaves the floor, it's usually because the (star) player he's guarding leaves the floor also, so you can't really expect much of a change in that stat. We all should be used to Hollinger's obsession with stats, but still thought I should point it out.

That's a great point you made about Bowen but 7+ pts difference (for the last 2 seasons) is way ahead.

SAtown
10-25-2005, 11:58 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but it scares me when everyone feels the Spurs are such overwhelming favorites. You got to believe other players on other teams will be highly motivated after reading this stuff. I like it better when the Spurs are ignored.

I'm not scared at all.

sprrs
10-26-2005, 12:02 AM
That's a great point you made about Bowen but 7+ pts difference (for the last 2 seasons) is way ahead.


of course I'm not saying Duncan's a lousy defender he's one of the best defensive presences in the league but Bowen is being underrated because of his stats

milkyway21
10-26-2005, 12:17 AM
John Carroll Scouts Inc.
The rich get richer, adding Finley, Van Exel and Oberto. Best defensive team in the NBA, with Duncan on the inside and Bruce Bowen on the perimeter. They have all the ingredients to repeat: talent, depth, defense, experience and coaching. ..and CHEMISTRY.


Chad Ford ESPN Insider
The world champs got deeper in the offseason both in the frontcourt and backcourt. They are head and shoulders above everyone else in the West now. ..and East.




Will Perdue ESPN Insider
Foes can only hope Tim Duncan protests the dress code, gets suspended and misses some games. He will tuck in his game jersey but not his dress shirt. :lol this is one FUNNY idea.



Chris Sheridan ESPN.com Insider
Every year, the Spurs sleepwalk through the first three months of the season before hitting their peak form in March and early April. The difference this time is their depth, which should fuel a stronger start and a run toward 68-69 victories.
good for you Mr. Cheridan:tu if that happens, I'll win my 1st bet. I predicted a 69-73 W this season.


Marc Stein ESPN.com
They're not going to win 70 games, because the Spurs generally start slow and because Gregg Popovich won't waste energy letting them chase the number. They have the deepest roster in club history. i think the only thing Pops let this team start slow is bec he'd like to stay away from coaching the All-Star again this in Feb. :oops


Hollinger's Player Spotlight

The coaches have voted Tim Duncan first-team All-Defense six of the eight seasons he's been in the league, but the writers have this giant blind spot toward him when it comes to Defensive Player of the Year voting. Last season, for instance, Duncan got only six votes for the award and finished fourth in the voting. Marcus Camby, who played fewer minutes and was less effective when he played, got 19 votes. Huh?

The past two years Duncan has been the linchpin of two of the best defensive teams in history, and yet he has never won the Defensive Player of the Year trophy. He wasn't even the highest-finishing Spur, as teammate Bruce Bowen beat him in the voting for two straight seasons. I realize Duncan isn't as spectacular as some other players and doesn't come flying in from left field to swat shots into the 12th row, but is that really our criterion? If the writers are covering teams for 82 games they should be able to see beyond this. The guy is a one-man roadblock.

What people fail to understand about Duncan is how hard it is to combine dominant shot-blocking with dominant rebounding. Most players who block shots do so in part by leaving the defensive boards exposed. If a player leaves his man to go for a block and jumps as high as he can to get it, his man has an open path to the basket. Thus, if the player fails to block the shot, his man can easily get an offensive rebound and score.

Duncan almost never gets out of position like this. He blocks some shots without jumping at all, and on others he uses his long arms and timing to deflect the shot with just a quick hop. As a result, he never leaves the offensive boards exposed even as he's blocking shots at a prodigious rate. Last season Duncan blocked 3.1 shots per 40 minutes while posting the third-best Rebound Rate at his position, both of which were better rates than Wallace's.

Duncan had the league's best Defensive PER by far, and his numbers the year before were just as dominant. Over the past two seasons, the Spurs gave up 7.3 points more per 48 minutes when Duncan left the court. The same numbers for Bowen, Ben Wallace and Ron Artest are 3.0, 3.3, and 4.6 respectively. No disrespect to those three, but Duncan is clearly the best defensive player in the game. Maybe some day the writers will notice.
:tu I've been asking this myself too!


Fundamental vs. Diesel

If anyone can overshadow Shaq, it's Tim Duncan. A Spurs-Heat NBA Finals would be a heavyweight match for a fourth title and serious bragging rights.
and this match will be one of the biggest finals game for me.

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
10-26-2005, 12:32 AM
Sweet, I guess I shouldn't track the Pistons at all this year then. BTW, how are the Yankees and Cards doing in the WS?

HB22inSA
10-26-2005, 12:38 AM
Usually that 7-8 game road trip finally brings us together.
Us??!! Are you a player?

sprrs
10-26-2005, 12:44 AM
Us??!! Are you a player?

Cut him some slack, everyone does it, at least I know I refer to them as "us" every now and then :blah

SAtown
10-26-2005, 02:03 AM
Us??!! Are you a player?

Yeah, US, the people who pay to see the team play every night.

T Park
10-26-2005, 02:14 AM
Coach Pop might be the best there is in the NBA

Yikes.

This is a shot to Aggie, Sequ, and that "Fire Pop" poster.


When will ALL the posters at this site recognize him as the BEST in the NBA.

milkyway21
10-26-2005, 03:13 AM
speaking of a repeat & who the best coach is, in the recent GM survey in NBA.com it was Coach Brown who emerged as the top coach.

Here's the rest of the article...

General managers pick Spurs to repeat in survey
Oct. 25, 2005
CBS SportsLine.com wire reports



NEW YORK -- The San Antonio Spurs are overwhelming favorites to repeat as NBA champions, according to an NBA.com survey of the league's general managers.

The Spurs received 77 percent of the vote among the approximately 25 GMs who responded. That percentage is the highest a team has received in the four years the survey has been conducted. The defending champions got 96 percent of the vote to win the Western Conference and 100 percent to win the Southwest Division.

Miami also was a unanimous pick to win the Southeast. Results were posted beginning Tuesday on NBA.com.

San Antonio star Tim Duncan got more than 78 percent of the votes as the league's top power forward and is the favorite to win another MVP award.:tu Other popular choices among the league GMs were Miami's Shaquille O'Neal, who got 84 percent as the top center, and Dallas forward Dirk Nowitzki (77 percent) as the league's top international player. :cry (don't cry for me Argentina).


Lakers guard Kobe Bryant received the most votes in two categories: best shooting guard and the player wanted to take a shot with the game on the line. Reigning MVP Steve Nash replaced Jason Kidd as the point guard -- the first year Kidd didn't receive the most votes at that position -- and Tracy McGrady of Houston was picked as the top small forward.

New Knicks coach Larry Brown was picked as the best coach.
:rolleyes




Pops is still the best coach or me. But Pops don't lose your 1st regular season game, pleaseeeeeee! :D

milkyway21
10-26-2005, 03:21 AM
Kobe is best shooting guard and the player wanted to take a shot with the game on the line.i agree with best shooting guard, but I would pick AI for the player who'd want to take a shot when the game is on the line...whooa he was scary in the last playoffs.

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
10-26-2005, 04:29 AM
Larry Brown is the devil...

sprrs
10-26-2005, 08:38 AM
Tim getting another MVP is a stretch, the only thing that can give him a decent chance at getting it is if the Spurs have the best regular season record. Even so, Im not so sure they'd give him the award.