Props to Kyle Anderson for surviving the NBA despite his limitations..

[JakeCuenca]

Dis nigga got signed by the right team. He's averaging 5ppg in the last three games in 35mpg :lol

He should really be thankful. He got signed by the one team that dont mind playing slow with less possession and less space. :lol

Still how many players in 2018 average 5ppg and 35mpg?

[JeffDuncan]

I don't know about avg, but Kemba Walker had 7 pts in 35 minutes the other night.....

[spursparker9]

high basketball IQ
Play within himself
Control the pace
Deceptive quickness

[JakeCuenca]

Kyle is a good playoff piece. Specially in clutch when you going one on one and you need the ball in a kawhi leonard type of player.

But man he aint surviving this league if it werent for the fact he played in both ISO heavy teams and slow ass teams ( spurs and Grizz)

[SAGirl]

He's playing off the ball more than he ever did as a Spur (bc Spurs swing the ball side to side and he handled the ball a fair amount last season playing as a wing anyways)... Now he's strictly off the ball, and playing more as a big than he did on the Spurs (a result of injuries to Jamychal Green, Casspi and even Parsons), He has not been good offensively this year. However he is getting more comfortable with new teammates and has ended up fitting really well. Memphis is playing very well considering and aside from Conley and Gasol, they have a new developing scoring option in rookie Jaren Jackson.

Anyways... the Grizzlies snagged a gem in the draft in JJJ. He looked very very raw when I first watched him in preseason and he's definitely showing he's 19 at times, with too much fouling and some missed rotations, but wow he's crazy talented and has great tools to succeed. After seeing how well he's doing in a team that with a healthy Conley and GAsol is pretty decent... I don't really mind the Spurs falling off and would rather wish they got a high lotto pick... but c'est la vie with Pop still wanting to "contend" ...

Anyways, point is, the Grizzlies rook is pretty good.

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[r0drig0lac]

high basketball IQ
Play within himself
Control the pace
Deceptive quickness

what?

[MemphisGirl]

He's playing off the ball more than he ever did as a Spur (bc Spurs swing the ball side to side and he handled the ball a fair amount last season playing as a wing anyways)... Now he's strictly off the ball, and playing more as a big than he did on the Spurs (a result of injuries to Jamychal Green, Casspi and even Parsons), He has not been good offensively this year. However he is getting more comfortable with new teammates and has ended up fitting really well. Memphis is playing very well considering and aside from Conley and Gasol, they have a new developing scoring option in rookie Jaren Jackson.

Anyways... the Grizzlies snagged a gem in the draft in JJJ. He looked very very raw when I first watched him in preseason and he's definitely showing he's 19 at times, with too much fouling and some missed rotations, but wow he's crazy talented and has great tools to succeed. After seeing how well he's doing in a team that with a healthy Conley and GAsol is pretty decent... I don't really mind the Spurs falling off and would rather wish they got a high lotto pick... but c'est la vie with Pop still wanting to "contend" ...

Anyways, point is, the Grizzlies rook is pretty good.

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He's a glue guy on defense still at least.

[MemphisGirl]

what?

See how deceived you are.

[8FOR!3]

Strange that he doesn't handle the ball more I would'v expected him to be signed as the backup PG basically and he can guard wings. He can't really play off ball that effectively bc he can't shoot but he's not a bad player.

[r0drig0lac]

See how deceived you are.

Memphis Girl https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

[spursparker9]

what?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kbb4JV1s_c

See that quick hand. Even the black mamba is a victim of it

[MemphisGirl]

Strange that he doesn't handle the ball more I would'v expected him to be signed as the backup PG basically and he can guard wings. He can't really play off ball that effectively bc he can't shoot but he's not a bad player.

The expectation seemed to be for him to fill a wing need that had been missing after Chandler Parsons was considered a bust.

[Spurtacular]

Kyle is 1 for 5 shooting the three this season. How the fuck does this guy not get that he has to have that shot to succeed? Spurs were smart to not double down on him.

[r0drig0lac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kbb4JV1s_c

See that quick hand. Even the black mamba is a victim of it

this speaks more about defensive qi than about "Deceptive quickness," he has no speed or explosion, that's exactly the reason why his ceiling is limited, good for him in Memphis he is invited to do less than in SA on the offensive side, it's a perfect place for him tbh.

[8FOR!3]

How did last year’s team make the playoffs? Really good defensively yes, but you had Aldridge with the ball in his hands and nobody really spacing the floor. Murray/Kyle couldn’t shoot, Patty Mills and Danny Green weren’t exactly knockdown shooters last year. How the hell did that starting 5 score any points

[MVPCues]

this speaks more about defensive qi than about "Deceptive quickness," he has no speed or explosion, that's exactly the reason why his ceiling is limited, good for him in Memphis he is invited to do less than in SA on the offensive side, it's a perfect place for him tbh.

Exactly. Great play but if Kobe had tried (he totally gave up) he could have outran Kyle and got in front of him and contested. Maybe Kyle still scores, but maybe not. Kyle 15 feet from the basket and a regular nba guy 20 feet is a push.

[San Antonio Slayer]

KA was good defending Yannis in the clutch road win though

[sananspursfan21]

Did I miss something? Did he get traded back to the Spurs? Why is this in the Spurs forum?

[pad300]

Exactly. Great play but if Kobe had tried (he totally gave up) he could have outran Kyle and got in front of him and contested. Maybe Kyle still scores, but maybe not. Kyle 15 feet from the basket and a regular nba guy 20 feet is a push.

Maybe, Kobe did give up, but one of the things that Kyle is really good at is using his body to shield the ball. He's damn slow, but he makes it extremely difficult to get around his body to cut off his line to the basket.

[Leetonidas]

How did last year’s team make the playoffs? Really good defensively yes, but you had Aldridge with the ball in his hands and nobody really spacing the floor. Murray/Kyle couldn’t shoot, Patty Mills and Danny Green weren’t exactly knockdown shooters last year. How the hell did that starting 5 score any points

They didn't :lol that's why after first half spurs had like 36 points

[ducks]

Props for mill still playing in nba as he gives up as much as he scores

[DAF86]

The fact that he's playing so much and the Grizzlies are overachieving tells you that he's Indeed an impactful player. Defense is underrated in the NBA and Kyle is just elite at that end.

[The Closer]

The fact that he's playing so much and the Grizzlies are overachieving tells you that he's Indeed an impactful player. Defense is underrated in the NBA and Kyle is just elite at that end.

He sucks in the playoffs dude. :lol

[SAGirl]

Grizzlies are now 10-5. He’s a key member if the Grizz rotation. :reading

[Keepin' it real]

Memphis Girl :lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/c8YC8htf5YQg0/giphy.gif

[Mr. Body]

Spurs could use a defender like Kyle. He'd be the best defender on the team.

[TDMVPDPOY]

limited, but at leasts his not doing stupid shit to be on the good side of frontoffice to get fkn minutes...for example, waving a fkn towel on the sidelines, first pos on the scene to help a team mate up from the ground, none of which are relevant on the scoreboard

[JakeCuenca]

Yeah Kyle is a decent defender and very high IQ. But he cant function with teams with championship aspirations. Just too limited offensively.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Yeah Kyle is a decent defender and very high IQ. But he cant function with teams with championship aspirations. Just too limited offensively.

he wont take shots away from players, he usually takes shots he knows he make...

but when u need a basket, dont count on him...

i think he wouldve been useful now on this spurms team, but not at the price of 10m.... interesting how the spurs couldve just paid green 10m even for inconsistency offensive game, but paid for his 3d defense...but not for anderson, his defense aint shutdown material, but its above avg...

[SAGirl]

Spurs could use a defender like Kyle. He'd be the best defender on the team.
Yup.

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[Chinook]

Yup.

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:lol at Towns on that last block.

[John B]

I’m happy for Kyle getting paid. I think he’s a good signing just that Grizz just haven’t used him effectively as point forward

[Mr. Body]

:lol at Towns on that last block.

Towns is a joke. He'll start playing tuff and hard for a quarter before jacking up 3s the rest of the game.

[JeffDuncan]

Next up for the Spurs is Memphis, so I guess we'll find out if we should have kept Anderson, instead of some of what we've got.

[ceperez]

Damn... right now, between Bertans and Anderson, I'll take Anderson. A swiss army knife, not good at any one thing but at least he's useful on the court.

PATFO messed up on this one.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Damn... right now, between Bertans and Anderson, I'll take Anderson. A swiss army knife, not good at any one thing but at least he's useful on the court.

PATFO messed up on this one.

This is true. Bertans is playing awful. Average beats awful any day.

[SnakeBoy]

Did I miss something? Did he get traded back to the Spurs? Why is this in the Spurs forum?

because there isn't much to say about the Spurs

[YGWHI]

Memphis is one of the few teams in this league that wants to play real defense and Kyle makes them better on that end. I'm so glad he found a place where players and fans love and respect him.

[Mr. Body]

Because this board is populated by morons, KA's value is dismissed. But he's a plus defender in a league where defending is very hard. Memphis was right to get him. The Spurs, meanwhile, were incredibly stupid to waste money on Davis Bertans. What a fucking disaster of a player. Totally useless.

[SouthTexasRancher]

I hope we win tomorrow but, I also hope SloMo has a good game. All his life he wanted to play for the SA Spurs. We let him go even though many nights he had the 3rd best box score. He was a very good rebounder and he almost always came up with a steal and a block when we needed it. And he was pretty damn good in the assist department. How could Pop and RC give Mills $10 million and Gasol $16 million and let SloMo go for nothing? Sometimes I think PATFO are getting senile. :ihit

[SAGirl]

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[TDMVPDPOY]

10m vs 20m for pos lma?...

but we all know patfo will spend that 10m they save on some pos offensive player who p lays no lick of defense

[r0drig0lac]

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[SouthTexasRancher]

Looks like he had a great game Friday night. He loaded up on the stats from points to rebounds to assists, steals and blocks. SloMo may be slow a foot but, the kid has a very high BB IQ.

[RC_Drunkford]

Memphis Girl

[MVPCues]

Great night by the quick footed sloth. <said sincerely> I like Chris Herrington's humor in his article.

Sounds like Kyle is super comfortable in his role and making the best of his opportunity.

[pad300]

Letting him go was bad decision. Kyle > Bertans >>> Belinelli. We would have been better off not using the MLE at all and keeping both...

[Rocalcio]

Really happy for him, really sad for us.

[jermaine]

People around here is gonna really miss him. His BBIQ is off to charts. I'm so hurt we didnt use him the right way.

[Snaq O'Meal]

People around here is gonna really miss him. His BBIQ is off to charts. I'm so hurt we didnt use him the right way.

Perhaps he just needed the right coach to allow him to achieve his true potential.

[Popabitch]

Being 6'9" with a 7'3" wingspan isn't a limitation if he hits the weight room. Just ask Draymond.

[lefty]

I’ve always thought he was a good player

Fucking Poop

[ElNono]

lmao 4-4-4 in 26 mins... typical fathead

[duncan2150]

Letting him go was bad decision. Kyle > Bertans >>> Belinelli. We would have been better off not using the MLE at all and keeping both...

Not the same contract guys, the mistake was not taking other player than our Bertans , forbes and company, sign cunnigham... but the KA decision was the good one for me.

[Rocalcio]

lmao 4-4-4 in 26 mins... typical fathead

We didn’t see you around here when he had his huge game 2 days ago...

[twincam]

Dude is garbage.

[Rocalcio]

Dude is garbage.


He’d be one of our best player on this year’s team. Can’t you guys admit he's having a good year in Memphis ? Stop being blind and admit you were wrong...

[bic50]

Dude is garbage.
Actually he isn't. Spurs could really use his defense right now

[ElNono]

We didn’t see you around here when he had his huge game 2 days ago...

:lol I'm always around my dude... the point is his 6ppg average *is* par for the course with this dude, not the outlier...

[ElNono]

Actually he isn't. Spurs could really use his defense right now

:lmao

[ElNono]

I've seen people here bitch about Simmons 3P% being in the low 30s, have they looked at what this scrub is averaging in that dept this season? :lol

[ElNono]

He's so good, Garret fucking Temple plays more minutes than him...

[ernest787]

Remember when the Spurs let fathead walk and then he went to Memphis and averaged 6 points and people act like he is a difference maker? :lol

[Rocalcio]

:lol I'm always around my dude... the point is his 6ppg average *is* par for the course with this dude, not the outlier...

Ok, keep looking at the points section, dude...

[ElNono]

Ok, keep looking at the points section, dude...

What else do I need to look at? His rebounds, assists, 26% 3 point average? :lol

He's a scrub, and I'm certainly glad the Spurs didn't overpay for that guy. We already have enough overpaid players.

[ElNono]

One of the top two great news this summer, tbh, alongside Parker getting the fuck out...

[Rocalcio]

What else do I need to look at? His rebounds, assists, 26% 3 point average? :lol

He's a scrub, and I'm certainly glad the Spurs didn't overpay for that guy. We already have enough overpaid players.

I just thought a member of ST with this total of posts would know a little bit more about basketball, but maybe all your posts are just the same quality you just showed me.

[ElNono]

I just thought a member of ST with this total of posts would know a little bit more about basketball, but maybe all your posts are just the same quality you just showed me.

:lol Yeah, make it about me and my post count, that's really telling me about basketball knowledge.

What are your arguments? What are these fabled qualities the Spurs would need from him now, and based on what? He's spent many years with the Spurs, showing his allergy to shooting, and his lack of impact without the ball in his hands.

[K...]

El nono is King of the casuals, a rich mans dabom (, he stans Manu rather than Mills) ... Nothing to see here. Basketball is not always about scoring. Jonathan Simmons will spend about 5 years in the league and never be a team asset. Kyle will double that as a role player. Its dumb to compare guards and forwards anyway.


It's also funny that Simmons is brought up, he owes his career to Kyle for their summer league blowout.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

He wouldn't fit on this year's team anyways. Our 2 best players are iso midrange guys, would Anderson really fit? Nope. I'm glad that he got his contract but at the end of the day we need toughness and a dog out there and that isn't Anderson. He's a follower and since the Grizz are tough he is playing tough, but with our soft ass team, he would be just another piece of Charmin

[Rocalcio]

:lol Yeah, make it about me and my post count, that's really telling me about basketball knowledge.

What are your arguments? What are these fabled qualities the Spurs would need from him now, and based on what? He's spent many years with the Spurs, showing his allergy to shooting, and his lack of impact without the ball in his hands.

We don't need another offensive player this year, we need defense. And Anderson is good at it.

[bic50]

What else do I need to look at? His rebounds, assists, 26% 3 point average? :lol

He's a scrub, and I'm certainly glad the Spurs didn't overpay for that guy. We already have enough overpaid players.
He doesn't look like a scrub in memphis

[bic50]

:lmao
Their defense is just fine I guess

[R. DeMurre]

I always liked KA and don't have some biased axe to grind regarding him, but his aversion to shooting was maddening. The possibility is there for him to be a Boris Diaw type of all around utility guy deferring to Gasol & Conley & others. I think if KA is the 7th best player on your team, you're in pretty good shape. If he's the 3rd best, you ain't winning a championship.

[exstatic]

I always liked KA and don't have some biased axe to grind regarding him, but his aversion to shooting was maddening. The possibility is there for him to be a Boris Diaw type of all around utility guy deferring to Gasol & Conley & others. I think if KA is the 7th best player on your team, you're in pretty good shape. If he's the 3rd best, you ain't winning a championship.

Diaw was also averse to shooting, most of the time. The biggest difference between their games that I saw was that Diaw had at least a credible 3 pointer to space the floor. If Kyle had that, he'd be a Spur right now.

[ElNono]

El nono is King of the casuals, a rich mans dabom (, he stans Manu rather than Mills) ... Nothing to see here. Basketball is not always about scoring. Jonathan Simmons will spend about 5 years in the league and never be a team asset. Kyle will double that as a role player. Its dumb to compare guards and forwards anyway.

It's also funny that Simmons is brought up, he owes his career to Kyle for their summer league blowout.


We don't need another offensive player this year, we need defense. And Anderson is good at it.

What is this defensive prowess? His defensive skills can be summarized as helping rebounding and gambling for steals. His lateral movement is poor (and he's young), he's not athletic enough to contest anything at the rim, he's not a physical player. He isn't stopping anybody off the dribble.

Who he can realistically guard at the SF position and give you an advantage? (he can't guard any of the elite at PG/SG) Lebron? Paul George? Kawhi? They eat him for breakfast.

Because he is, at best, an above average defensive player (he isn't IMO, but let's pretend), he has to contribute *something* better than a rookie on the other end. Especially after years in the league, you would think he figured out his niche on offense.

Bowen was a solid defender, BUT he also had a 3 point shot. Same with Danny (for a while anyways).

I understand that for the average Spursfan, if you put Belinelli next to Anderson, Kyle looks like Ron Artest defensively, tbh, but realistically, he's an average defender, and why would the Spurs spend that kind of money on average?

[Mugen]

My nigga ElNono in this thread tbh:

https://media.giphy.com/media/A0UK8ewpztydG/giphy.gif

[vander]

and why would the Spurs spend that kind of money on average?

because good free agents don't come to SA, and you can go over the cap for your own guys.

do you seriously prefer Cuningham+Pondexter+Belinelli for about the same price as KA?

[K...]

What is this defensive prowess? His defensive skills can be summarized as helping rebounding and gambling for steals. His lateral movement is poor (and he's young), he's not athletic enough to contest anything at the rim, he's not a physical player. He isn't stopping anybody off the dribble.

Who he can realistically guard at the SF position and give you an advantage? (he can't guard any of the elite at PG/SG) Lebron? Paul George? Kawhi? They eat him for breakfast.

Because he is, at best, an above average defensive player (he isn't IMO, but let's pretend), he has to contribute *something* better than a rookie on the other end. Especially after years in the league, you would think he figured out his niche on offense.

Bowen was a solid defender, BUT he also had a 3 point shot. Same with Danny (for a while anyways).

I understand that for the average Spursfan, if you put Belinelli next to Anderson, Kyle looks like Ron Artest defensively, tbh, but realistically, he's an average defender, and why would the Spurs spend that kind of money on average?

Average defender being paid average salary... Lol you got me

[jeebus]

What is this defensive prowess? His defensive skills can be summarized as helping rebounding and gambling for steals. His lateral movement is poor (and he's young), he's not athletic enough to contest anything at the rim, he's not a physical player. He isn't stopping anybody off the dribble.

Who he can realistically guard at the SF position and give you an advantage? (he can't guard any of the elite at PG/SG) Lebron? Paul George? Kawhi? They eat him for breakfast.

Because he is, at best, an above average defensive player (he isn't IMO, but let's pretend), he has to contribute *something* better than a rookie on the other end. Especially after years in the league, you would think he figured out his niche on offense.

Bowen was a solid defender, BUT he also had a 3 point shot. Same with Danny (for a while anyways).

I understand that for the average Spursfan, if you put Belinelli next to Anderson, Kyle looks like Ron Artest defensively, tbh, but realistically, he's an average defender, and why would the Spurs spend that kind of money on average?
MemphisGirl, you gonna let ElNono inject Magic's T Cells into Fat Head like this?

[ElNono]

because good free agents don't come to SA, and you can go over the cap for your own guys.

do you seriously prefer Cuningham+Pondexter+Belinelli for about the same price as KA?

That's the point. You can have 3 end of the bench players for the price of one end of the bench player.

[pad300]

That's the point. You can have 3 end of the bench players for the price of one end of the bench player.

There appears to be some coaches (2 out of 2 so far) that disagree with you about "end of the bench player". He started 67 of the 74 he played in for us last year (26.7 mpg). He's at 22 of 25 for the Grizz this year (29.9 mpg). The various advanced stats have always suggested he's reasonably good, a starter + level player. If we were playing him in place of Cunningham, would SAS be better off? I think so. I would rather have him than Cun/Pon/Beli. Not to mention Forbes - I don't like small SG's as a personal preference, or Mills (damn the contract he's on), or even Bertans (despite Bertans being a reasonable player himself)...

[ElNono]

There appears to be some coaches (2 out of 2 so far) that disagree with you about "end of the bench player". He started 67 of the 74 he played in for us last year (26.7 mpg). He's at 22 of 25 for the Grizz this year (29.9 mpg). The various advanced stats have always suggested he's reasonably good, a starter + level player. If we were playing him in place of Cunningham, would SAS be better off? I think so. I would rather have him than Cun/Pon/Beli. Not to mention Forbes - I don't like small SG's as a personal preference, or Mills (damn the contract he's on), or even Bertans (despite Bertans being a reasonable player himself)...

The point is that he doesn't move the needle, much like those other guys, and you're not stuck with him for 4 years. Cunningham and Pointdexter are on 1 year deals, Beli on 2.

1 of those 2 coaches also though he wasn't worth a 4 year deal.

[SAGirl]

Haters gonna hate tbh
:sombrero:

[pad300]

The point is that he doesn't move the needle, much like those other guys, and you're not stuck with him for 4 years. Cunningham and Pointdexter are on 1 year deals, Beli on 2.

1 of those 2 coaches also though he wasn't worth a 4 year deal.

Pop presumably made that judgment, although I think it was a cap-space call. And like many others in this thread, I think it was a mistake. As mentioned by every advanced overall player evaluation stat that I am aware of, KA graded out a starter + guy. Gettting a guy who produces like that for 4 years at the MLE, going into his notional prime, is not a bad thing. (Especially as he has gotten better every year he was with us. He's getting much better than he was at the start of year with the Grizz right now, having pulled his WP48 from something around .02 after the first 3 weeks of the season, to .161 - an average starter being .1). Especially when there are clear flaws in to Kyle's game - a lack of willingness to shoot and overall aggression - which are at least potentially fixable, unlike say Bertans who appears unable to gain enough muscle (nor to grow longer arms) to be able to compete for rebounds... If Kyle develops a more aggressive 3 ptr, he's going to be a serious asset.

[ElNono]

Pop presumably made that judgment, although I think it was a cap-space call. And like many others in this thread, I think it was a mistake. As mentioned by every advanced overall player evaluation stat that I am aware of, KA graded out a starter + guy. Gettting a guy who produces like that for 4 years at the MLE, going into his notional prime, is not a bad thing. (Especially as he has gotten better every year he was with us. He's getting much better than he was at the start of year with the Grizz right now, having pulled his WP48 from something around .02 after the first 3 weeks of the season, to .161 - an average starter being .1). Especially when there are clear flaws in to Kyle's game - a lack of willingness to shoot and overall aggression - which are at least potentially fixable, unlike say Bertans who appears unable to gain enough muscle (nor to grow longer arms) to be able to compete for rebounds... If Kyle develops a more aggressive 3 ptr, he's going to be a serious asset.

If he's a good player, there should be no considerations about cap-space. He was a Spurs player, the Spurs had the ability to match, and if he wasn't overpaid and good, it was an easy call to make.

We've been saying the bolded for as long as he's been with us, and going to Memphis didn't change that one bit. He is who he is. And before going into advanced stats, just take a look at his overall stats. He's simply not a contributor/difference maker.

We're not talking Manu at 40 years old, where he had to play more of a playmaker role and impact the game in other ways because his athleticism was gone, we're talking about a kid supposedly entering his prime years effectively being unable to impact a basketball game.

And before somebody brings back the defensive argument again, he's not a stopper or a defensive specialist that impacts the game so much on that end where you can overlook his offense.

People forget that Conley and Gasol also made the same Quincy Pondexter that's on our team look like a star too, tbh.

[vander]

That's the point. You can have 3 end of the bench players for the price of one end of the bench player.

is Spurs would have kept him, he'd probably be 3rd on the team in minutes

[K...]

https://www.grizzlybearblues.com/2018/12/6/18127056/kyle-anderson-grit-and-grind-2-0-tony-allen-memphis-grizzlies-nba

Here's a fun blog post which covers both sides of the debate and compares kyle with Tony Allen as elite role players.

[ElNono]

Tony Allen was a physical player, borderline dirty, tbh... really, no comparison whatsoever...

If the blogger didn't realize it by now, he will soon enough.

[ElNono]

is Spurs would have kept him, he'd probably be 3rd on the team in minutes

The only reason for that would be that Gay has been injured, tbh... but also because the Spurs suck... really tells me more about the current state of the Spurs, than about Kyle Anderson.

[ElNono]

Haters gonna hate tbh
:sombrero:

:lol I don't hate Anderson, I hate people that nitpick WS, RPM, advanced stats to make a point, when his actual production on the court is literally terrible for a guy starting in the NBA.

It's like Matt Bonner all over again. The Spurs did the right thing to walk away from a 4 year deal for a lukewarm (at best) player, whom they observed for 3 (4?) seasons, nurtured, etc. As much slack the FO gets for bad moves, this was completely correct.

[JeffDuncan]

Anybody who is still criticizing Kyle Anderson, at this point, has got to be brain damaged.

He isn't a Spur. Hello? Anybody out there have a grip on reality?

[TDMVPDPOY]

andersons man2man defense is underrated, he is probably as good as green/kawhi when it comes to pick pocketing a player in the midcourt picking up their dribble

but if you expect him to chase, contest a layup/jumpshot, then forget about it... thats one of his weakness for a lengthy guy who has no vertical to speak of

he has the tools to be a good offensive player, but the problem is popabitch still living rent free in his head... he could be doing more offensively on the grizzlies.. his drives and eurostep to the ring is good, but clown is just to passive to go for his own pts

[bklynspursfan]

andersons man2man defense is underrated, he is probably as good as green/kawhi when it comes to pick pocketing a player in the midcourt picking up their dribble

but if you expect him to chase, contest a layup/jumpshot, then forget about it... thats one of his weakness for a lengthy guy who has no vertical to speak of

he has the tools to be a good offensive player, but the problem is popabitch still living rent free in his head... he could be doing more offensively on the grizzlies.. his drives and eurostep to the ring is good, but clown is just to passive to go for his own pts

Maybe he's in his own head then (cue the big head jokes).... The team wanted him to be aggressive and shoot more bruh. It's just not who he is

[bic50]

:lol I don't hate Anderson, I hate people that nitpick WS, RPM, advanced stats to make a point, when his actual production on the court is literally terrible for a guy starting in the NBA.

It's like Matt Bonner all over again. The Spurs did the right thing to walk away from a 4 year deal for a lukewarm (at best) player, whom they observed for 3 (4?) seasons, nurtured, etc. As much slack the FO gets for bad moves, this was completely correct.
Haters gonna hate

[MemphisGirl]

What is this defensive prowess? His defensive skills can be summarized as helping rebounding and gambling for steals. His lateral movement is poor (and he's young), he's not athletic enough to contest anything at the rim, he's not a physical player. He isn't stopping anybody off the dribble.

Who he can realistically guard at the SF position and give you an advantage? (he can't guard any of the elite at PG/SG) Lebron? Paul George? Kawhi? They eat him for breakfast.

Because he is, at best, an above average defensive player (he isn't IMO, but let's pretend), he has to contribute *something* better than a rookie on the other end. Especially after years in the league, you would think he figured out his niche on offense.

Bowen was a solid defender, BUT he also had a 3 point shot. Same with Danny (for a while anyways).

I understand that for the average Spursfan, if you put Belinelli next to Anderson, Kyle looks like Ron Artest defensively, tbh, but realistically, he's an average defender, and why would the Spurs spend that kind of money on average?


MemphisGirl (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=52960), you gonna let ElNono inject Magic's T Cells into Fat Head like this?

Kyle is a defensive stopper. He's got a wide body and good reach and keeps the defender in front of him. Furthermore, his eye hand coordination combined with stealth arms has him getting straight picks. It's not a matter of "gambling".

[BD24]

Kyle is a defensive stopper. He's got a wide body and good reach and keeps the defender in front of him. Furthermore, his eye hand coordination combined with stealth arms has him getting straight picks. It's not a matter of "gambling".
:lol

One of the better trolls recently, props to whoever's it is.

[phxspurfan]

*somehow* apos gay ass threads keep getting bumped. I wonder.

[RC_Drunkford]

Kyle is a defensive stopper. He's got a wide body and good reach and keeps the defender in front of him. Furthermore, his eye hand coordination combined with stealth arms has him getting straight picks. It's not a matter of "gambling".

does his big head factor into his defense?

[Dverde]

I’m happy for Kyle, I know he’s worked hard. Regardless, I am happy his fathead is playing elsewhere.

[skookumchuck]

With the roster we have this year, he'd be a glorified Cunningham. His skills now a better fit with Memphis.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

What is this defensive prowess? His defensive skills can be summarized as helping rebounding and gambling for steals. His lateral movement is poor (and he's young), he's not athletic enough to contest anything at the rim, he's not a physical player. He isn't stopping anybody off the dribble.

Who he can realistically guard at the SF position and give you an advantage? (he can't guard any of the elite at PG/SG) Lebron? Paul George? Kawhi? They eat him for breakfast.

Because he is, at best, an above average defensive player (he isn't IMO, but let's pretend), he has to contribute *something* better than a rookie on the other end. Especially after years in the league, you would think he figured out his niche on offense.

Bowen was a solid defender, BUT he also had a 3 point shot. Same with Danny (for a while anyways).

I understand that for the average Spursfan, if you put Belinelli next to Anderson, Kyle looks like Ron Artest defensively, tbh, but realistically, he's an average defender, and why would the Spurs spend that kind of money on average?
Yeah, Kyle is not a good man defender, he gets beat alot, and needs help defensively. He's a gamble guy who barely gets a steal a game. That's the extent of his defense.

$37M is WAY too much for a gamble guy who doesn't lock anyone down and sucks offensively. There's a reason the Spurs were perfectly fine with him going within the division.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

He's so good, Garret fucking Temple plays more minutes than him...

Despite being the Grizzlies' "big" free agent signing he couldn't beat out Chandler Parsons for a starting gig. The same Chandler Parsons who last season lost his starting gig to James Ennis. And it's not like Parsons started and Kyle got big minutes. He was averaging 19mpg in that span.

As for Garrett Temple, he's been the Grizzlies' best wing which goes to show how bad the Grizzlies' wing position is.

[SAGirl]

He’s been playing rather well tbh.

[BackHome]

Like someone said if your still bitching about this dude then you got mental issues. The dude worked hard did what Pop wanted him was a good soldier not like fucking KY bitch ass and his crusty ass Uncle Dennis.....Glad he got a contract with another team wish him the best of luck just not against us.

[John B]

You know we could’ve gotten “revolutionizing-center” Jokic for this pick, right? Which would’ve been an easier transition post-Timmy

[ElNono]

Like someone said if your still bitching about this dude then you got mental issues. The dude worked hard did what Pop wanted him was a good soldier not like fucking KY bitch ass and his crusty ass Uncle Dennis.....Glad he got a contract with another team wish him the best of luck just not against us.

Funny how the mental retardation doesn’t apply to his fluffers that still make threads about this loser on the Spurs forum. :lol

And while not Uncle Dennis levels of bitchmade, fathead’s dad bitched plenty on twitter about his son not getting enough touches/larger role.

[SAGirl]

No one absolutely no one reaches Dennis levels of bitchmade tbh.

Haters gonna hate ...

[offset formation]

Funny how the mental retardation doesn’t apply to his fluffers that still make threads about this loser on the Spurs forum. :lol

And while not Uncle Dennis levels of bitchmade, fathead’s dad bitched plenty on twitter about his son not getting enough touches/larger role.

Yep. And I'm sure PATFO was aware of that. And while they're above being moved by such bitchness -- based rather completely on a player's talent and ability to help the team -- I'm sure if it was a 50/50 decision on whether to match the Memphis offer, bitchness made it tip to 50.5/49.5 not to offer.

[Hoops Czar]

Funny how the mental retardation doesn’t apply to his fluffers that still make threads about this loser on the Spurs forum. :lol

And while not Uncle Dennis levels of bitchmade, fathead’s dad bitched plenty on twitter about his son not getting enough touches/larger role.

At least he didn't spend hours in a Jack in the Box parking lot crying his ass off about being traded to the Spurs.

[daslicer]

At least he didn't spend hours in a Jack in the Box parking lot crying his ass off about being traded to the Spurs.

:lol At least he didn't have to cry about not having enough Viagra to get it up like you do in here 24/7.

[Rocalcio]

Great game from Anderson last night. I’m happy for him he found his place in Memphis.

[Gagnrath]

Despite being the Grizzlies' "big" free agent signing he couldn't beat out Chandler Parsons for a starting gig. The same Chandler Parsons who last season lost his starting gig to James Ennis. And it's not like Parsons started and Kyle got big minutes. He was averaging 19mpg in that span.

As for Garrett Temple, he's been the Grizzlies' best wing which goes to show how bad the Grizzlies' wing position is.

Not sure what happened with Temple there was a minute that he was with the Spurs and I thought him and Hill were going to be the torch carriers for the Spurs back court till a out 2023. (I kinda think that the front office decided there would be to much career overlap with Manu and Parker to keep everyone.)

[r0drig0lac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ffRPmsHZc

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ffRPmsHZc

I'm surprised that its his career high at 20 on a blow out game.

In contrast, Derek White in his second season scored 22 points on a competitive game against the Celtics yesterday.

Anderson and White's basketball IQ are comparable (I actually will give edge to White). But Anderson has zero speed and is a liability in defense (can't guard wings) and offense (can't shoot 3).

PATFO knew the had a good playmaker in White and were willing to pass on Anderson. I think Anderson could still help the Spurs, but he was too expensive.

[Dverde]

It appears Fathead is done for the season. He set a new season high in PPG from 7.9 to 8.0.

[K...]

It appears Fathead is done for the season. He set a new season high in PPG from 7.9 to 8.0.

But his dollars per points value went way up, so big win for him.

[Xx_SpursNation_xX]

Whatever you think of Pop, he helps these D league nikkas gain legitimacy and helps their bank account.

[ElNono]

:lmao Fathead fluffers.... this dude being the fraud we all thought he was, missing the playoffs as expected, only a league player thanks to Pop's generosity...

cue "they didn't use him properly", "he would do well in a contender", "needs a bigger role" :lol

TheGreatYacht SAGirl MemphisGirl Chinook get in here and spin this shit...

[RC_Drunkford]

It appears Fathead is done for the season. He set a new season high in PPG from 7.9 to 8.0.

he worked hard in the summer for those 0.1 points:spin

[Chinook]

:lmao Fathead fluffers.... this dude being the fraud we all thought he was, missing the playoffs as expected, only a league player thanks to Pop's generosity...

cue "they didn't use him properly", "he would do well in a contender", "needs a bigger role" :lol

TheGreatYacht (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719) SAGirl (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524) MemphisGirl (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=52960) Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) get in here and spin this shit...

Still outscored Manu.

[ElNono]

Still outscored Manu.

:lol

[MVPCues]

It appears Fathead is done for the season. He set a new season high in PPG from 7.9 to 8.0.

8.05 next season to show all you up...

[MemphisGirl]

:lmao Fathead fluffers.... this dude being the fraud we all thought he was, missing the playoffs as expected, only a league player thanks to Pop's generosity...

cue "they didn't use him properly", "he would do well in a contender", "needs a bigger role" :lol

TheGreatYacht (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719) SAGirl (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524) MemphisGirl (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=52960) Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) get in here and spin this shit...

Kyle is shooting over 50 FG this season for the third season in a row. He could be a prolific scorer with the right encouragement. His mid range, length, and court vision is rare in today's NBA.

[ElNono]

Kyle is shooting over 50 FG this season for the third season in a row. He could be a prolific scorer with the right encouragement. His mid range, length, and court vision is rare in today's NBA.

:lol nice troll you have going on here

[MemphisGirl]

:lol nice troll you have going on here

With Kyle's size and his touch, he can be like a Kevin McHale of the elbow. He needs to realize he doesn't need to beat people off the dribble. Rather, he needs to just create the proper space and shoot with confidence.

[SAGirl]

Might be one of those "character" or "culture guys" for Memphis tbh. I only just saw this and thought he's probably an appreciated glue guy in a team that has a lot of youngins.
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[horseshue]

https://youtu.be/fbVLpq4ej_c
Kyle putting Janis on a poster.

[YGWHI]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbVLpq4ej_c