California fire truthers now lmao

[Isitjustme?]

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[Isitjustme?]

Chris

[DMC]

So you found some fringe idiot tweets and you shared them.

:lol then you wonder how this shit gets traction

Signaling for responses :lol

[Will Hunting]

So you found some fringe idiot tweets and you shared them.

:lol then you wonder how this shit gets traction

Signaling for responses :lol
We both know Chris is going to believe everything posted in the OP :lol

[Pavlov]

Mike definitely Tokes.

[Isitjustme?]

So you found some fringe idiot tweets and you shared them.

:lol then you wonder how this shit gets traction

Signaling for responses :lol

Bish we turned the fucking frogs gay..like we couldnt do this? Lmao

Wait until Chris gets in here and schools you

[Isitjustme?]

Galileo

[boutons_deux]

"An emerging, deeply weird conspiracy theory holds that those

fires aren’t caused by

wind patterns,

brutally dry conditions,

the worsening effects of climate change, or

possible downed power lines (https://www.sfchronicle.com/california-wildfires/article/PG-E-Power-line-had-problems-before-Camp-Fire-13379438.php),

but by a

sinister scheme directed by nefarious elements within the government."

https://earther.gizmodo.com/californias-wildfires-have-spawned-a-truly-wild-new-con-1830418656

[AaronY]

I dunno about any of this but the destruction of the Death Star in Star Wars was definitely an inside job imo. No way in hell photon torpedos could melt steel beams tbh

Vader just happens to get out right before the explosion? Gmafb

[Chris]

Chris

Don't @ me faggot.

[Reck]

Don't @ me faggot.

Notice you didn't dispute what he said. :lol Incel dumbass Chris.

[AaronY]

Don't @ me faggot.
thats telling em

[Chris]

thats telling em

Didn't read the OP :tu

[spurraider21]

Nbadan

[DMC]

Cosmored

[Spurminator]

FromWayDowntown

[DMC]

Emergency Broadcast System for Conspiratards

[CosmicCowboy]

Damn. Takes 1250 degrees to melt aluminum.

[Pavlov]

Damn. Takes 1250 degrees to melt aluminum.Yep, well within the range of forest fire temps.

Gotta love conspiretards always conflating aluminum and steel tho.

[boutons_deux]

Trash calls Paradise CA "Pleasure"

[boutons_deux]

Finns ruthlessly mock Trump’s claims they ‘take care of the floors’ of forests

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DsSnderXoAAmkJ7-800x430.jpg

“We gotta take care of the floors, you know, the floors of the forest,” Trump claimed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCGk5Kdy4xo).

“You look at other countries where they do it differently and it’s a whole different story,” he continued.

“I was with the president of Finland and he said: ‘We have a much different — we’re a forest nation.’

He called it a forest nation, and

they spent a lot of time on raking and cleaning and doing things.

And they don’t have any problem.”

President Sauli Niinistö of Finland denied (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/18/trump-raking-wildfires-california-finland-1002526) the conversation.

< hilarious tweets follow >

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/finns-ruthlessly-mock-trumps-claims-take-care-floors-forests/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/11/finns-ruthlessly-mock-trumps-claims-take-care-floors-forests/)

Trash is hilariously ridiculed around the planet, and his cult base is just as ridiculous.

[Chris]

Yep, well within the range of forest fire temps.

Gotta love conspiretards always conflating aluminum and steel tho.

Nano-thermite how does it work?

[Pavlov]

Nano-thermite how does it work?Yes, Chris -- how does it work?

Explain using your own words.

[Chris]

Yes, Chris -- how does it work?

Explain using your own words.

It melts steel.

[Pavlov]

It melts steel.Why is that significant to you, Chris?

[Chris]

Why is that significant to you, Chris?

You were confused and asking for an explanation after dodging the question. The significance lies within your claim that "conspiratards always conflating aluminum and steel". Were you talking about another event, or just talking out of your ass?

[DMC]

An average surface fire on the forest floor might have flames reaching 1 metre in height and can reach temperatures of 800°C (1,472°F) or more.

https://autoweek.com/article/car-news/tennessee-forest-fires-liquefy-aluminum-rims

[Pavlov]

You were confused and asking for an explanation after dodging the question.Which question was that?

[DarrinS]

CA works so hard to cut emissions and an annual fire exceeds everything. Sad

[Fabbs]

Fact Check: Was the Recent California Fire Started by the U.S. Government Using Space Lasers?

https://www.weeklystandard.com/holmes-lybrand/fact-check-was-the-recent-california-fire-started-by-the-u-s-government-using-space-lasers

[Winehole23]

CA works so hard to cut emissions and an annual fire exceeds everything. SadCalifornians are choking, jerk.

[boutons_deux]

Make America Rake Again! (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/17/1813686/-Make-America-Rake-Again)

https://images.dailykos.com/images/613581/story_image/Picture2.jpg?1542584486

California Governor-elect Gavin Newsom and California Gov. Jerry Brown managed to keep their poker faces

while listening to the drivel from the self-described forest-fire-management stable genius.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/17/1813686/-Make-America-Rake-Again

[Will Hunting]

:lol Trump attributing the forest fires to the fact leaves weren’t raked is almost as funny as when he described how clean coal works.

[pgardn]

So you found some fringe idiot tweets and you shared them.

:lol then you wonder how this shit gets traction

Signaling for responses :lol

Its great you also point them out from Chris, derp and TSA (who seems to have stopped after the pizza disaster)

[pgardn]

Damn. Takes 1250 degrees to melt aluminum.

Its really a fantastic metal. Light, oxidation is minimal... Buy yeah, it takes energy to "cast" it.

[pgardn]

CA works so hard to cut emissions and an annual fire exceeds everything. Sad

So where did you find this fun fact? Because California measures emissions from internal combustion engines, not from the combustion of wood. They produce very different gases. Smog actually has a basic definition.

[DMC]

Its great you also point them out from Chris, derp and TSA (who seems to have stopped after the pizza disaster)

Outrage

[boutons_deux]

Its really a fantastic metal. Light, oxidation is minimal... Buy yeah, it takes energy to "cast" it.

about 10x more to smelt it from ore than iron

[AaronY]

We both know Chris is going to believe everything posted in the OP :lol


Nano-thermite how does it work?


It melts steel.


You were confused and asking for an explanation after dodging the question. The significance lies within your claim that "conspiratards always conflating aluminum and steel". Were you talking about another event, or just talking out of your ass?
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[Chucho]

:lol Trump attributing the forest fires to the fact leaves weren’t raked is almost as funny as when he described how clean coal works.


There's truth to what he said, although he said it in a very stupid way.

About 50 years ago, the Forest Services guys, after kicking out most of the loggers, stopped "thinning the brush" in the forests- basically cutting dead trees down, removing dead brush, etc. and this is basically stockpiling kindling, throw in the criminal mismanagement and theft of water resources by California politicians and PG+E's negligence and this is why this state burns a bit closer to the ground every year.

[DMC]

There's truth to what he said, although he said it in a very stupid way.

About 50 years ago, the Forest Services guys, after kicking out most of the loggers, stopped "thinning the brush" in the forests- basically cutting dead trees down, removing dead brush, etc. and this is basically stockpiling kindling, throw in the criminal mismanagement and theft of water resources by California politicians and PG+E's negligence and this is why this state burns a bit closer to the ground every year.

It's my barber shop level understanding that you are not allowed to carry brush or wood out of those forests even for personal use or just to clear space, is that correct? I understand there are layers upon layers of undergrowth that have died that can burn for an extended amount of time.

[Chucho]

It's my barber shop level understanding that you are not allowed to carry brush or wood out of those forests even for personal use or just to clear space, is that correct? I understand there are layers upon layers of undergrowth that have died that can burn for an extended amount of time.


That is correct. From what I gather, the National Forest Service was supposed to do that, referred to as "thinning the brush" as it was done by the loggers that were occupying the areas prior. They haven't done it and basically the entire area is a drought and a spark away from being the annual largest bon fire on planet Earth.

[Will Hunting]

There's truth to what he said, although he said it in a very stupid way.

About 50 years ago, the Forest Services guys, after kicking out most of the loggers, stopped "thinning the brush" in the forests- basically cutting dead trees down, removing dead brush, etc. and this is basically stockpiling kindling, throw in the criminal mismanagement and theft of water resources by California politicians and PG+E's negligence and this is why this state burns a bit closer to the ground every year.
Fair point but (maybe I’m wrong), isn’t California’s mismanagement of the water a much bigger problem than clearing the brush? The brush issue has been around for decades but these massive forest fires seemed to start happening when the droughts started hitting the state.

It is beyond stupid that they’re more or less drying out these parts of the state so a bunch of rich assholes in LA can have a winter lawn every year.

[spurraider21]

CA works so hard to cut emissions and an annual fire exceeds everything. Sad
this is close to the same level of bullshit as these moronic memes that people pass around the believe

https://ireadencyclopedias.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/mtetnameme.jpg

[SpursforSix]

I dunno about any of this but the destruction of the Death Star in Star Wars was definitely an inside job imo. No way in hell photon torpedos could melt steel beams tbh

Vader just happens to get out right before the explosion? Gmafb

you don't understand photon torpedoes

[Chucho]

Fair point but (maybe I’m wrong), isn’t California’s mismanagement of the water a much bigger problem than clearing the brush? The brush issue has been around for decades but these massive forest fires seemed to start happening when the droughts started hitting the state.

It is beyond stupid that they’re more or less drying out these parts of the state so a bunch of rich assholes in LA can have a winter lawn every year.


It's a combo of the two. Allowing a giant kindling pile to grow for 5 decades giving fuel to record breaking wild fires annually during record drought and then misappropriating the resources after having nearly a decade of drought and fire is helping keep the streak alive.

I could go on and on about how terribly mismanaged this state is in these regards and the failure of the state government to put any plans/measures et. al to help combat these annual disasters.

Here's what's sad considering what this state government has spent on the bullet train that went no where:

A massive surplus of water obtained after nearly a decade of drought. Vast majority of surplus water emptied into the oceans to flush polluted water that will eventually flow back into the places they were flushed from. They wasted less than a half year to waste the water surplus. It's been a drought since.

The amount of money wasted on Gov. Rob Ublind's bullet train to nowhere could have purchased multiple desalination plants to turn ocean water into fresh water for the folks of SoCal who must have green lawns AND multiple air crafts that can drop loads of water onto massive forest fires AND the STILL had money left over.

These simple and obvious solutions have been proposed to the state government throughout this entire decade of drought and fire.

[Chucho]

Oh, let's not forget PG+E's role in all of this. And they got fined heavily by the state because one recent fire was directly tied to their negligence in installing powerlines and they are passing it on to their customers with the largest rate hikes they've had in X amount of years.

[boutons_deux]

:lol you rightwingnutjob bubba redneck shitkicking KKK assholes :lol

Are Volcanoes or Humans Harder on the Atmosphere?

Does one major volcanic eruption generate more climate-altering gas than that produced by humans in their entire history?


According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS),

the world’s volcanoes, both on land and undersea, generate about 200 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) annually,

while our automotive and industrial activities cause some 24 billion tons of CO2 emissions every year worldwide.

(note to you sub-GED assholes: 1 billion is 1000 x 1 million)

Despite the arguments to the contrary, the facts speak for themselves:

Greenhouse gas emissions from volcanoes comprise less than one percent of those generated by today’s human endeavors.

Another indication that human emissions dwarf those of volcanoes is the fact that atmospheric CO2 levels, as measured by sampling stations around the world set up by the federally funded Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center, have gone up consistently year after year regardless of whether or not there have been major volcanic eruptions in specific years.

“If it were true that individual volcanic eruptions dominated human emissions and were causing the rise in carbon dioxide concentrations,

then these carbon dioxide records would be full of spikes—one for each eruption,”

says Coby Beck, a journalist writing for online environmental news portal Grist.org.

“Instead, such records show a smooth and regular trend.”

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-volcanoes-or-humans/ (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-volcanoes-or-humans/)

[DMC]

Yeah but the Lakers got LeBron so it evens out eventually.

[Chris]

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[Chucho]

1064647630611984384


Of course he did, specifically if the plan had water allocation measures drawn in. He's got money to pocket by selling state water favors to local municipalities and to appease the envirotards with disingenuous and absolutely ineffectual water flushes.

[Chris]

Of course he did, specifically if the plan had water allocation measures drawn in. He's got money to pocket by selling state water favors to local municipalities and to appease the envirotards with disingenuous and absolutely ineffectual water flushes.

Nestle owns that bitch.

[Winehole23]

Private capture of public resources, it's a great racket if you can continue to get away with it.

[Nbadan]

FromWayDowntown

:spin

[Galileo]

Galileo

What do you want???

[Isitjustme?]

What do you want???

The truth about these fires

[Chris]

The truth about these fires

There is a theory that they are clearing the way for a high speed rail system.

[Pavlov]

There is a theory that they are clearing the way for a high speed rail system.Is this your theory, Chris?

[Chris]

Is this your theory, Chris?

No

[Pavlov]

NoIt's a pretty stupid theory, isn't it Chris?

[Chris]

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=108600

The "smart meter" theory

[Pavlov]

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=108600

The "smart meter" theoryIs this your theory, Chris?

[Chris]

Is this your theory, Chris?

You didn't even read it :lol

[Chris]

While researching for his new novel, author Denis Mills discovered an alarming link between chemtrails and the super wildfires.

The author discovered that unprecedented levels of aluminum and barium nanodust, primary components in chemtrails, both of which are incendiary, are fueling the ferocity of the super wildfires.


A retired USAF brigadier general, Gen. Charles Jones, has been quoted from a public source as stating, "These white aircraft spray trails are the result of scientifically verifiable spraying of aluminum particles and other toxic heavy metals, polymers and chemicals."

"Millions of tons of aluminum and barium are being sprayed almost daily across the U.S., stated Mills, a former naval officer and UCLA graduate. "Just sprinkle aluminum or barium dust on a fire and see what happens. It's near explosive. When wildfires break out, the aluminum/barium dust results in levels of fire intensity so great as to cause firefighters to coin a new term ̶ 'firenados,' " he said. The entire U.S., in addition to various other NATO countries, are being sprayed."

The government has for years denied the existence of chemtrail spraying. It now calls the program by various names, all under Geoengineering.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/aluminum-dust-from-geoengineering-fueling-super-wildfires-according-to-author-300707890.html

[Pavlov]

You didn't even read it :lolAnd I won't unless you say it is also your theory.

Is it your theory, Chris?

[Chris]

And I won't unless you say it is also your theory.

Is it your theory, Chris?

It's plausible. Maybe you should try reading it.

[Pavlov]

It's plausible. Maybe you should try reading it.Not unless you say you believe in it.

Nothing to discuss.

[Isitjustme?]

Hes a fucking California fire truther for real :lol

Too good :lol

[Chris]

^ didn't read anything either

[Pavlov]

No need to read crackpot conspiracy theories if no one here believes them.

[Galileo]

The truth about these fires

Fires go back many years. Billions of years.

[koriwhat]

lol one of my buddies was showing me photos of this stuff and i couldn't help but laughing. who fucking knows but i ain't going down that stupid ass rabbit hole today or ever. my buddy also watches some gay conspiracy dude on youtube that whispers the whole time and drives me nuts having to be forced to watch that loser fight his lisp to get out his weak ass conspiracies. ugh....

so this is actually a thing though; lasers? lmao!

[Winehole23]

space laser hits Santa Barbara

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[Spurtacular]

Hearing about how California going to manage their forests now.
They trying to fix global warming? :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

pine beetle infestations have made a big difference too. They leave the dead trees instead of logging them out.

https://www.nps.gov/romo/learn/nature/images/ForestHealth_MPB_Comparison_688x300.jpg?maxwidth=1 200&maxheight=1200&autorotate=false

[RandomGuy]

Fires go back many years. Billions of years.


The oldest fossils of land plants date back about 470 million years.

[Thread]

^^^That's how many dicks you got stuck in your ass, RG.