Ukraine seeking to implement martial law effective tomorrow

[DeadlyDynasty]

https://www.unian.info/politics/10351710-poroshenko-speaks-up-for-martial-law-in-ukraine-parliament-to-have-its-say-on-monday.html

I'm supposed to go on leave in three days:flipoff

[FrostKing]

Ukraine was duped by Westerners. I understand as a Polak. They were fed half truths and bit their meal hand - Russia. Ultimately when push came to shove, the West turned their back on Ukraine

[DMC]

https://www.unian.info/politics/10351710-poroshenko-speaks-up-for-martial-law-in-ukraine-parliament-to-have-its-say-on-monday.html

I'm supposed to go on leave in three days:flipoff

You don't seem like yourself today. You need to consider taking 2 or 3 sick days imo

[hater]

Dumb ukranians tried to sneak some small ships gifted by US through Russian straight

Obviously their plan failed and now they claim Russia had given them the green light first for crossing

Oopsy

They are just in election mode and trying to provoke a conflict to help Poroshenko in elections. This move failed and now Russia might stop all commercial traffic to some Ukranian ports

Oopsy

[hater]

Dont poke a bear tbqh

https://twitter.com/euromaidanpress/status/1066797967103991809?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/rusembusa/status/1066833275963015168?s=21

[Chris]

Reminds me a little of the Lusitania tbh

[pgardn]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-46338671

But there are no Russians in Crimea what the heck?
Putin said so way back, no Russians.

[pgardn]

Reminds me a little of the Lusitania tbh

Explain.

[Nbadan]

https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1066801214409592833

[ElNono]

https://www.unian.info/politics/10351710-poroshenko-speaks-up-for-martial-law-in-ukraine-parliament-to-have-its-say-on-monday.html

I'm supposed to go on leave in three days:flipoff

stay safe brah

[DeadlyDynasty]

You don't seem like yourself today. You need to consider taking 2 or 3 sick days imo
lol

Head of Ops in Kiev sent us an email last month about uncertified sick leave, and how it goes up 400% in December:lol

[DMC]

lol

Head of Ops in Kiev sent us an email last month about uncertified sick leave, and how it goes up 400% in December:lol

After I posted that I thought that perhaps you have a departing flight that would leave the country when your leave started, that could get grounded.

[hater]

The Ukrainian government, urged on by the U.S., wants to establish a new military harbor in the Sea of Azov. Two of its navy ships, a rescue vessel and a tug, passed through the street on September 23. In October the Russian government warned that it will not allow any further militarization of the sea. Some U.S. hawks even want NATO ships to enter the Sea of Azov. The Sea of Azov has a maximum depth of 7 meters. Typical U.S. frigates have a draft of 10+ meters. What NATO or U.S. ship could even go there? As Russia firmly controls the sole entry point into the sea and can easily attack any ship in the Sea of Azov from within its borders the idea is incredibly stupid.

he Ukrainian attempt to pass through the Kerch Strait without Russian consent is a breach of Article 7, 19 and 21 of the UN Law of the Sea Convention (pdf):

Article 7: "Subject to this Convention, ships of all States, whether coastal or land-locked, enjoy the right of innocent passage through the territorial sea."
...
Article 19-1: "Passage is innocent so long as it is not prejudicial to the peace, good order or security of the coastal State. Such passage shall take place in conformity with this Convention and with other rules of international law."
...
Article 21-4: "Foreign ships exercising the right of innocent passage through the territorial sea shall comply with all such [coastal state] laws and regulations and all generally accepted international regulations relating to the prevention of collisions at sea."
There will now be again a lot of noise in the media about the 'nefarious Russians' and new demands for even more useless sanctions. But the legal case is clear. It was the Ukrainian navy that willfully attempted to pass from the Black Sea into the Sea of Azov through Russian territorial waters without regard to the laws and regulations of the coastal state. Russia was within its full rights to prevent the passage and to seize the Ukrainian boats.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

[boutons_deux]

Pootin is bullying Ukraine, they way Trash bullies weaker groups like asylum seekers, BLM, Kaep, etc.

[hater]

One more tidbit

Poroshenkos approval rating is currently 6.3% :lol with elections coming up

Wag wag wag the dog fatty

He already got his martial law. He will probably go on to postpone the elections due to “security” reasons :rolleyes

[hater]

Predictably Poroshenko has called upon his allies in NATO to come to the aid of his beleaguered regime, beggared by his own recklessness. Trump – facing imminent Armageddon in Washington as the Mueller Enquiry closes – may welcome the opportunity to wag his own Dog. Theresa May – possibly in the last days of her premiership otherwise – ditto. Macron, the streets of his capital on fire with 77% of his people favoring the arsonists rather than him, likewise.

A dangerous constellation of weak, collapsing Western governments and leaders suddenly find their interests coinciding with the tin-pot tyrant Poroshenko. And into the Valley of Death they might just be ready to send their people charging. If they do they will find a resolute Russia far stronger than at Balaclava. Strong and united enough in fact to prevail. Unity in NATO countries is something even the Victorian master propagandist Tennyson would find it hard to spin. And certainly the moth-eaten second-rate spin-doctors of the NATO hirelings – the laughably named “Integrity” unmasked by Anonymous last week – “ain't no Lord Tennyson, bruv.”

— George Galloway

[RandomGuy]

Trump says he doesn't like it. :lmao

Fighting words. What a wuss.

[RandomGuy]

The Ukrainian government, urged on by the U.S., wants to establish a new military harbor in the Sea of Azov. Two of its navy ships, a rescue vessel and a tug, passed through the street on September 23. In October the Russian government warned that it will not allow any further militarization of the sea. Some U.S. hawks even want NATO ships to enter the Sea of Azov. The Sea of Azov has a maximum depth of 7 meters. Typical U.S. frigates have a draft of 10+ meters. What NATO or U.S. ship could even go there? As Russia firmly controls the sole entry point into the sea and can easily attack any ship in the Sea of Azov from within its borders the idea is incredibly stupid.

he Ukrainian attempt to pass through the Kerch Strait without Russian consent is a breach of Article 7, 19 and 21 of the UN Law of the Sea Convention (pdf):

Article 7: "Subject to this Convention, ships of all States, whether coastal or land-locked, enjoy the right of innocent passage through the territorial sea."
...
Article 19-1: "Passage is innocent so long as it is not prejudicial to the peace, good order or security of the coastal State. Such passage shall take place in conformity with this Convention and with other rules of international law."
...
Article 21-4: "Foreign ships exercising the right of innocent passage through the territorial sea shall comply with all such [coastal state] laws and regulations and all generally accepted international regulations relating to the prevention of collisions at sea."
There will now be again a lot of noise in the media about the 'nefarious Russians' and new demands for even more useless sanctions. But the legal case is clear. It was the Ukrainian navy that willfully attempted to pass from the Black Sea into the Sea of Azov through Russian territorial waters without regard to the laws and regulations of the coastal state. Russia was within its full rights to prevent the passage and to seize the Ukrainian boats.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

ROFL... "moonofalabama.org"

okaaaay. You go with that.

[hater]

Lol Neo Fascists good now

[hater]

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1067029627242201090?s=21

[hater]

:lmao Russia gone invade us so I need to stay in power :lmao

https://twitter.com/kateryna_kruk/status/1067075797553504257?s=21

[Spurtacular]

Ukraine was duped by Westerners. I understand as a Polak. They were fed half truths and bit their meal hand - Russia. Ultimately when push came to shove, the West turned their back on Ukraine

Obama and Putin fucked them over. Somehow there was no Russia story for years on end? No talk of impeachment?

[pgardn]

A good opinion article on the current Mess.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/26/opinion/russia-ukraine-attack-ships-crimea.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

Good thing the Russian people are fairly tough, sanctions incoming.

[pgardn]

Obama and Putin fucked them over. Somehow there was no Russia story for years on end? No talk of impeachment?

Yeah because Obama was helping to launder Russian money and was in love with Putin.
So many signs of a closer relationship. Continue with your fairytale.

[hater]

LOL Ukraine admitting it had intelligence officers on board posing as sailors

:lol amateur hour

https://twitter.com/christopherjm/status/1067338347755053057?s=21

[Spurtacular]

Yeah because Obama was helping to launder Russian money and was in love with Putin.
So many signs of a closer relationship. Continue with your fairytale.

We know that Obama curled up into a ball when Ukraine were invaded. Maybe that was part of his "flexibility".

[hater]

Looks like the ukranian intelligence officers embedded in sailors are the ones who ignored Russian orders to stop thus causing this incident.

https://twitter.com/coldwind11/status/1067440638411497472?s=21

Cant really blame Ruskies for protecting their 2 billion dollar bridge and lifeline tbqh

[hater]

:lmao Atlantic Council’s advice to Ukraine: start a major war with Russia

These ar the same idiots that police facebook and other social media now :lmao

Warmonger despicable clowns:
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russia-s-provocations-in-the-sea-of-azov-what-should-be-done

Even though Ukraine is outgunned, it does have options. It can undertake operations to break the blockade, though they would likely be fruitless given the forces Moscow has sent there.
Nevertheless, it cannot accept this attack on its sovereignty and integrity passively. Ukraine should give careful consideration to a special operation that might disrupt the bridge that Moscow built over the Kerch Strait that joins Crimea to Russia.

But that’s not all. Ukraine should invite the United States and NATO to send a fleet of armed ships to visit Mariupol, the main city on the Sea of Azov coast and defy Russia to fire on or block NATO from exercising the right to visit Ukraine’s ports. Those ships should be armed and have air cover but be instructed not to fire unless fired upon.

[hater]

Poroshenko's intent was to provoke an incident that would allow him to present himself as a war-president. Elections are coming up and all polls show him below 10% and far behind two other candidates. He attempted to use the incident to introduce martial law over all the Ukraine.

Martial law would give Poroshenko full control over the country. He would be able to remove any regional or local government, to shut down the political opposition and to censor the media. He would be able to postpone the upcoming elections indefinitely. He tried to scare the parliament into accepting that

His plans were rejected. Poroshenko pulled back with his plan. Instead of the 60 day long, renewable period of martial law he wanted, he had to settle for 30 days. And that was still not enough, Parliament forced him to confirm elections in March which he had to do.


There will now be a limited martial law but only in those regions that border Russia or the Black Sea. The opposition and its foreign backers will take care that its use will not get out of hand. There will be a limited call-up of reserve troops, but most of the reservists are to likely ignore it.

With the election date set to March 31 by the parliament Poroshenko has no legal tool to postpone it.

Even Poroshenko is not dumb enough to repeat his failed provocation in the Kerch Strait. The Kerch bridge is guarded. Its pillars are massive because it was build near a fault and has be able to withstand earthquakes. A saboteur unit would have to bring several tons of high explosives to even damage one. To reach Mariupol in the Sea of Azov ships have to cross through the the Kerch Strait. The passage is a very narrow artificial channel with only 8 meter depth. Outside of the channel the water is as shallow as a think tankers thought. Any ship with more than 2-3 meters draft has zero room to navigate there. Russia does not even need boats or airplanes to protect it. A few guns along the coast can easily control the passage. No sane naval commander will try to pass the Strait by force.


Poroshenko could start a provocation elsewhere. He could attempt to reconquer the Donetzk airport. But while he might itch for losing more fights, a full blown war is out of question. Kiev's army is low on morale and would be defeated within days.

Poroshenko's rule was catastrophic for the Ukraine. In several cities the central heating and warm water supply is broken. Ten-thousands will have to freeze during the winter, some of them to death. Since Poroshenko came to power millions of able Ukrainian workers have fled or work abroad, most of them to Russia. The most industrialized regions are in firmly in rebel hands. Most of the population is poor, the bureaucracy is utterly corrupt and the country is practically bankrupt.

There will likely be dozens of corruption cases brought up against Poroshenko himself as soon as he loses power. If he is smart he will flee the Ukraine the very day his term ends.


https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/11/ukraine-poroshenko-initiated-clash-with-russia-to-gain-dictatorial-powers-he-failed.html#more

[Chris]

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FUJrNH0e Zho2Ag%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1

[in2deep]

Pootin is bullying Ukraine, they way Trash bullies weaker groups like asylum seekers, BLM, Kaep, etc.

Bullying?

Ukranian vessels were bum rushing the straight and dangerously close to Russian 4 billion $ bridge. They ignored Russian orders to stop.

can you explain how you conclude that is Russian bullying?

[in2deep]

:lmao Atlantic Council’s advice to Ukraine: start a major war with Russia

These ar the same idiots that police facebook and other social media now :lmao

Warmonger despicable clowns:
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russia-s-provocations-in-the-sea-of-azov-what-should-be-done

Even though Ukraine is outgunned, it does have options. It can undertake operations to break the blockade, though they would likely be fruitless given the forces Moscow has sent there.
Nevertheless, it cannot accept this attack on its sovereignty and integrity passively. Ukraine should give careful consideration to a special operation that might disrupt the bridge that Moscow built over the Kerch Strait that joins Crimea to Russia.

But that’s not all. Ukraine should invite the United States and NATO to send a fleet of armed ships to visit Mariupol, the main city on the Sea of Azov coast and defy Russia to fire on or block NATO from exercising the right to visit Ukraine’s ports. Those ships should be armed and have air cover but be instructed not to fire unless fired upon.

Disgusting of facebook and other social media to join forces with these warmongers

[in2deep]

A good opinion article on the current Mess.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/26/opinion/russia-ukraine-attack-ships-crimea.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

Good thing the Russian people are fairly tough, sanctions incoming.


This sentence renders your article bullshit:

Russia claimed they had crossed into Russian waters, but that is based on its illegal claim to Crimea, which it seized in 2014.

Russia controls Crimea and its waterways like it or not. even if you choose to ignore the fact that Crimeans voted to join Russia.

even if you ignore that fact you can compare it to Israel guarding the Golan. Illegal claim but who will blink if Israel obliterates a bum russhing Syrian convoy? Nobody

lmao NY Times

what a joke

[in2deep]

Looks like warmongers and Poroshenko won something in the end. Looks like Putin Trump meeting in Buenos Aires is canceled

[in2deep]

https://twitter.com/saysthekremlin/status/1067558433736589313?s=21

[pgardn]

This sentence renders your article bullshit:

Russia claimed they had crossed into Russian waters, but that is based on its illegal claim to Crimea, which it seized in 2014.

Russia controls Crimea and its waterways like it or not. even if you choose to ignore the fact that Crimeans voted to join Russia.

even if you ignore that fact you can compare it to Israel guarding the Golan. Illegal claim but who will blink if Israel obliterates a bum russhing Syrian convoy? Nobody

lmao NY Times

what a joke

Bum rushing international waters... you are full of shit.

The Ukrainians are no angels, but giving Putin your tongue down his throat is disgusting.
Welcome to the hater RT world.

[pgardn]

https://twitter.com/saysthekremlin/status/1067558433736589313?s=21

I love that soource.
Pile oh crap

[pgardn]

in2deep

Yes you are.

[in2deep]

Bum rushing international waters... you are full of shit.

The Ukrainians are no angels, but giving Putin your tongue down his throat is disgusting.
Welcome to the hater RT world.

Except it not international waters

the waters the ship enterd belong to Crimea

[pgardn]

Except it not international waters

the waters the ship enterd belong to Crimea

Except they are and Ukrainian vessels have already been through there.

[in2deep]

Except they are and Ukrainian vessels have already been through there.

And?

from BBC:

The Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) accused Ukraine of violating Article 19 and Article 21 of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, which " outline the right of a coastal state to provide maritime security (https://www.interfax.ru/russia/639325) ".

[pgardn]

And?

from BBC:

The Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) accused Ukraine of violating Article 19 and Article 21 of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, which " outline the right of a coastal state to provide maritime security (https://www.interfax.ru/russia/639325) ".

What a joke.

And what were they securing by ramming a tug boat?

[hater]

Radio communications between the ukranian boats and Russian. With subtitles

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