At What Point Does PATFO Admit Changes Need to Be Made?

[MoSpur02]

If they actually want to contend like they stated when they brought in DeRozan then they need to make changes to this current roster.

[slick'81]

They dont.remember its only nov and were only 20 games in etc etc

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Nothing we can really do this year. I wonder though if we could get either Lonzo or Fultz for our Toronto pick. Maybe we can make something out of those youngin's. And yes I know that they suck, but is the 28th pick really gonna be any better?

[TheGreatYacht]

Nothing we can really do this year. I wonder though if we could get either Lonzo or Fultz for our Toronto pick. Maybe we can make something out of those youngin's. And yes I know that they suck, but is the 28th pick really gonna be any better?
Those poor bastards are better off where they are than to come and get their careers ruined with Pop Post-Duncan/Kawhi

[HarlemHeat37]

Nothing we can really do this year. I wonder though if we could get either Lonzo or Fultz for our Toronto pick. Maybe we can make something out of those youngin's. And yes I know that they suck, but is the 28th pick really gonna be any better?

How exactly is Pop going to help them? He's the GOAT, but it's 2019, this is post-Achilles Kobe running the Spurs:lol

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Those poor bastards are better off where they are than to come and get their careers ruined with Pop Post-Duncan/Kawhi
Lol I mean that might be true, but we only have 2 more years of Pop. Plus it's not like Fultz has anywhere to go but up :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Lol I mean that might be true, but we only have 2 more years of Pop. Plus it's not like Fultz has anywhere to go but up :lol
Liberal Pop will probably get one his pressers hijacked by Lavar the same way Bernie let his rally get taken over by a black protester

[Genovaswitness]

this is a lost season. patty and gasol....who could blame kawhi for living this shitheap

[sasaint]

Lol I mean that might be true, but we only have 2 more years of Pop. Plus it's not like Fultz has anywhere to go but up :lol

Please, not 2 more years!

[Kobe'sAchilles]

How exactly is Pop going to help them? He's the GOAT, but it's 2019, this is post-Achilles Kobe running the Spurs:lol
:lmao:lmao:lmao
Hey I'm just spitballing :lol

[sananspursfan21]

This roster isn’t versatile. A bunch of specialists that aren’t even good at their specialty :bang

[RC_Drunkford]

the real question is how can you even improve this roster? Spurs have almost no assets. Or do you think there are teams out there trying to trade for Dante Cunningham?

[MoSpur02]

the real question is how can you even improve this roster? Spurs have almost no assets. Or do you think there are teams out there trying to trade for Dante Cunningham?


I'm pretty sure there are teams who could use a Mills, White, or Gasol.

[MoSpur02]

I think... LOL

[TheGreatYacht]

the real question is how can you even improve this roster? Spurs have almost no assets. Or do you think there are teams out there trying to trade for Dante Cunningham?
Bro RD2191 who was the poor bastard that said losing guys like QPon and Cunningham might be a tough decision?

[NASpurs]

Admitting to change means you're not stubborn and set in your ways.

[slick'81]

I'm pretty sure there are teams who could use a Mills, White, or Gasol.
Are you sure? Gasol may not play again and wtf would take mills

[NASpurs]

Are you sure? Gasol may not play again and wtf would take mills

That leadership and fluffing doesn't come cheap man.

[acoelho1]

Only 4.5 games from first place :pctoss

[slick'81]

That leadership and fluffing doesn't come cheap man.

Fluffing of pops balls

[paperboy77]

Those poor bastards are better off where they are than to come and get their careers ruined with Pop Post-Duncan/Kawhi

.. and our medical staff.

[sasaint]

At what point do the Holts realize changes need to be made?

[UZER]

The problem is PATFO ARE the changes that need to be made.

[SouthTexasRancher]

If we're talking about Pop and Drunkford, they won't admit shit. Pop will just keep bitching and Drunkford will just stay drunk. We suck and it ain't going to get any better with the current team.

[slick'81]

At what point do the Holts realize changes need to be made?

Is peter even around anymore?is his wife and co. capable of helping this team make roster decisions

[SuperCam]

Those poor bastards are better off where they are than to come and get their careers ruined with Pop Post-Duncan/Kawhi

suicide truth bomb right here :tu

The slurpers claiming 4-seed and 50+ wins before the season will be the the same ones after the season claiming no coach could have gotten this team to the playoffs...

[TheGreatYacht]

.. and our medical staff.
They already had Gasol doing basketball activities until a second opinion found he had a nerve issue on his foot :lol

Imagine Fultz here... poor guy might end it all

[skin27]

We’re stuck with this shit for a year or two..tbh

[sasaint]

Is peter even around anymore?is his wife and co. capable of helping this team make roster decisions

I wasn't talking about roster changes.

[MoSpur02]

At what point do the Holts realize changes need to be made?

Great question

[MoSpur02]

Is peter even around anymore?is his wife and co. capable of helping this team make roster decisions

He's not around.

[MoSpur02]

I wasn't talking about roster changes.


Yeah I think R.C needs to a water to wine miracle to save his job.

[sasaint]

Not RC. Pop is his boss. RC is not the guy ultimately responsible.

[TheGreatYacht]

Crater Face's job isn't in danger. The Trump hating liberal media will make sure of it. Det system baby

[NASpurs]

I mean you read this shit and it makes you wonder why this roster was built this way when he fucking knows :lol

"Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays." Gregg Popovich

"The inside game is kaputski," Popovich explained without helping with the spelling.

"You've got to have downhill players, you've got to have people that can penetrate and kick, you've got to have people who can switch, you've got to have big guys who can play little guys," he said.

"These days there's such an emphasis on the three because it's proven to be analytically correct," Popovich Monday offered with what appeared to be a sneer. "Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays."

"I hate it, but I always have," Popovich said even as he's adjusted over the years. "I've hated the three for 20 years. That's why I make a joke all the time (and say) if we're going to make it a different game, let's have a four-point play. Because if everybody likes the three, they'll really like the four. People will jump out of their seats if you have a five-point play. It will be great. There's no basketball anymore, there's no beauty in it. It's pretty boring. But it is what it is and you need to work with it."

[vander]

If they actually want to contend like they stated when they brought in DeRozan then they need to make changes to this current roster.

PATFO is what needs to be changed

[Genovaswitness]

I'm pretty sure there are teams who could use a Mills, White, or Gasol.


mills is a "team leader". gasol has a broken foot. white is a 3rd string PG

[EmantheSpursFan]

I think they will wait to see how the team looks with Loonie and Pau back into the rotation. In the meantime they will key the chips land where they fall when it comes to the draft.

[ElNono]

They'll open a 2nd Whataburger on the AT&T Center to calm down the fans, tbh...

[HarlemHeat37]

They'll open a 2nd Whataburger on the AT&T Center to calm down the fans, tbh...

You think Manu's ready to take RC's job?

[TheGreatYacht]

They'll open a 2nd Whataburger on the AT&T Center to calm down the fans, tbh...
:lmao

[Spurs Homer]

Coasting


non - issue.

Relax.

[ElNono]

You think Manu's ready to take RC's job?

Manu wants no part of this mess, he would've stuck around otherwise, IMO.

[anon]

At what point do the Holts realize changes need to be made?
Like a Las Vegas or San Diego scenery change

[slick'81]

I think they will wait to see how the team looks with Loonie and Pau back into the rotation. In the meantime they will key the chips land where they fall when it comes to the draft.


Pau may be done and we know pop wont unleash lw4

[HarlemHeat37]

It's kind of funny how the Spurs and Heat are in such a similar place with their old legends at the top burning their respective franchises down before they retire:lol

[Jay.From.NbTx]

It’s sad that at this point I’m hoping for losses every game so it lights a fire under the FO’s asses to do something.
Obviously something needs to be done. We need more talent

[MVPCues]

Coasting


non - issue.

Relax.


You chose a good name.

[R. DeMurre]

I mean you read this shit and it makes you wonder why this roster was built this way when he fucking knows :lol

"Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays." Gregg Popovich

"The inside game is kaputski," Popovich explained without helping with the spelling.

"You've got to have downhill players, you've got to have people that can penetrate and kick, you've got to have people who can switch, you've got to have big guys who can play little guys," he said.

"These days there's such an emphasis on the three because it's proven to be analytically correct," Popovich Monday offered with what appeared to be a sneer. "Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays."

"I hate it, but I always have," Popovich said even as he's adjusted over the years. "I've hated the three for 20 years. That's why I make a joke all the time (and say) if we're going to make it a different game, let's have a four-point play. Because if everybody likes the three, they'll really like the four. People will jump out of their seats if you have a five-point play. It will be great. There's no basketball anymore, there's no beauty in it. It's pretty boring. But it is what it is and you need to work with it."


I sort of agree with Pop on how the three point shot has ruined the game, but I also think he overstates it here for dramatic effect. Milwaukee has figured out a way to play to Giannis's strength (attacking the basket) and still shoot threes. Golden State relies on Draymond Green to do all the things other than shooting threes. Toronto has Siakam and Ibaka in the starting line up, neither good three point shooters. I think what the rest of the NBA has caught up on is that the three point shot isn't a novelty-- it's a shot that makes objective sense when it comes to scoring. Larry Bird was considered the best three point shooter of his day, but never averaged more than 3.3 attempts per game. In today's NBA, Bird's coach would would chastise him for not shooting more threes.

[emanueldavidginobili]

How can we make changes? We can’t make trades because no one wants anyone on this team lol

[slick'81]

How can we make changes? We can’t make trades because no one wants anyone on this team lol


Bbb but patty mills can shoot

[JakeCuenca]

Gasol is an expiring next year. They should wait out till december when a Barton becomes available. They have a couple plausible trades but i think the biggest thing is they get two kinds of players. 3&D and a guy that can drive to the basket off the bench. Iirc Barton is making 10 a year, and if hes healthy should be able to be the guy attacking now they just need a 3&D

[BackHome]

Only way to improve next year is to tank and I mean tank hard

[slick'81]

Only way to improve next year is to tank and I mean tank hard
Barring a trade including dd/lma itll take an injury for that to happen

[wolf754life]

only changes will be pops routing and account #'s with payroll as he diversifies his holdings...$$$

[DJR210]

They already had Gasol doing basketball activities until a second opinion found he had a nerve issue on his foot :lol

Imagine Fultz here... poor guy might end it all

I saw reports of a stress fracture..

[TDMVPDPOY]

what u do now is tank get that high draft picks

throw the rookies out there and get them to earn those m inutes and experience...

get rid of the vets and that cunt mills

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Lol I mean that might be true, but we only have 2 more years of Pop. Plus it's not like Fultz has anywhere to go but up :lolFultz can still go down, like out of the league down.

[TheGreatYacht]

I saw reports of a stress fracture..
Spurs medical staff saw nothing more than a foot bruise tbh imho

[DJR210]

Spurs medical staff saw nothing more than a foot bruise tbh imho

Didn't this autistic mother fucker have pink eye for like 2 months a couple years back? These idiots can't even prescribe the correct eye drops ffs

[duncan2k5]

They already had Gasol doing basketball activities until a second opinion found he had a nerve issue on his foot :lol

Imagine Fultz here... poor guy might end it all

making kawhi look even more right by the day

[gambit1990]

even if the spurs made a move to get better there’s still no way they’re winning a ring this year. would rather tank than lose in the 1st round...

[TheGreatYacht]

Didn't this autistic mother fucker have pink eye for like 2 months a couple years back? These idiots can't even prescribe the correct eye drops ffs
Nothing is more memorable than that time Kawhi hurt his hand and the idiots said they had never seen anything like it :lmao

[SuperCam]

SGA would be the best PG on this roster by far. Tobias Harris would be the 2nd best player.

PATFO took a giant wet shit all over the franchise by turning down the Kiwi to the cripples deal :bang

[gambit1990]

i guess move la for something... give white, lonnie, poeltl, metu heavy minutes.

might as well move rudy, he seems like he could actually have some value... bring in melo to keep casual fans somewhat interested in buying tickets/help with the tank.

then after the season ends use what pick the spurs get + gasol's expiring to move up in the draft.

[SAGirl]

This thread is golden. I have definitely had some laughs. Indulge me. Trolling not directed at anyone, it's just too funny. :troll:
:lol it's only November
:lol regular season don't matter
:lol moral victories
:lol moral losses
:lol Fultz, Lonzo save us
:lol top 4 team in the west bitchezzz
:lol better than last season
:lol the itallian stallion, Ferrari save us
:lol Old :pop: "we staying competitive this year"
:lol the system
:lol Gasol in a boot
:lol Limping Gay with bad heels the Spurs best player
:lol no shoulders, feather-thin Bertans needing to start at forward
:lol Bryn Forbes a starting PG
:lol we are proud we don't tank
:lol Walker save us

[LCM]

I mean you read this shit and it makes you wonder why this roster was built this way when he fucking knows :lol

"Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays." Gregg Popovich

"The inside game is kaputski," Popovich explained without helping with the spelling.

"You've got to have downhill players, you've got to have people that can penetrate and kick, you've got to have people who can switch, you've got to have big guys who can play little guys," he said.

"These days there's such an emphasis on the three because it's proven to be analytically correct," Popovich Monday offered with what appeared to be a sneer. "Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays."

"I hate it, but I always have," Popovich said even as he's adjusted over the years. "I've hated the three for 20 years. That's why I make a joke all the time (and say) if we're going to make it a different game, let's have a four-point play. Because if everybody likes the three, they'll really like the four. People will jump out of their seats if you have a five-point play. It will be great. There's no basketball anymore, there's no beauty in it. It's pretty boring. But it is what it is and you need to work with it."

I love that this is the same man who coached the "greatest power forward" in TD yet destroyed how that position is played, and that very same man showed the blue print to the entire NBA of how the three point shot can be used to crush teams with talents such as Durant and Westbrook, in OKC, and LeBron, Wade, and Bosh in Miami. Games 3, 4, and 5 of the 2014 finals changed the NBA forever! Golden State is just running what the Spurs used to run in 2013 and 2014 with better shooting personnel! 4 perimeter players, all live, with abilities to shot, drive and kick, and play defense, and 1 big for passing and defense. And the PF is no longer TD but Diaw or Draymond! Driving to the basket and kicking for threes is more profitable than midrange. Popovich made it work, where guys like D'Antoni still haven't cracked the code.

But Pop is not adjusting to what this franchise created that the modern NBA is embracing. Your scouting has to change, your play calling has to change, your focus of what is the most important things in a game to win has to change! He's already wrecked how bigs are used and looked at in the NBA yet he still stubbornly believes LMA is a centerpiece! Your transition defense, rebounding, and turnovers can be overcome if you have the personnel to hit the three because you should be in the business of winning and not what you think beautiful basketball should be as taught to you by Larry Brown!! Every one of those quotes just lends more credence to why Patricia Holt needs to have a face to face talk with Pop and transition him from coaching and making personnel decisions for the Spurs after this year regardless of record. He is not a good fit for how the modern NBA game needs to be played. I would also say he is not a good handler of the modern player either. Danny Green is a great example. Danny isn't looking over his shoulder anymore, he's not scared and he's playing like it. I know a lot of you think Bertans is crap, but Pop is misusing him terribly. Sean Elliott on numerous broadcasts last year would say Davis needed to be on the floor more and getting more touches, but Pop wouldn't do it on a consistent basis. And I think Sean knows just as much basketball as TD, TP, DROB, or Manu.

Since the end of the 2007 Championship, the Spurs have one additional, and some would say their most memorable, championship. At the end of this year that will be 12 years. Some could say we should have gotten more than just one with the collection of talent the Spurs had from 2012 through 2017. But, since that can't be changed, it's the future that needs to be planned for now. For me, especially after how the season ended last year, I would have asked Pop to transition away from coaching the franchise and just concentrate with RC on front office, and installed Messina as coach. But it definitely needs to happen after this year, and Pop needs to relinquish control over everything now. He was the greatest coach for his time, but that time is now done.

[therealtruth]

I'm guessing Pop's going to try to hang on till he can pass Don Nelson.

[Kurgan]

I love that this is the same man who coached the "greatest power forward" in TD yet destroyed how that position is played, and that very same man showed the blue print to the entire NBA of how the three point shot can be used to crush teams with talents such as Durant and Westbrook, in OKC, and LeBron, Wade, and Bosh in Miami. Games 3, 4, and 5 of the 2014 finals changed the NBA forever! Golden State is just running what the Spurs used to run in 2013 and 2014 with better shooting personnel! 4 perimeter players, all live, with abilities to shot, drive and kick, and play defense, and 1 big for passing and defense. And the PF is no longer TD but Diaw or Draymond! Driving to the basket and kicking for threes is more profitable than midrange. Popovich made it work, where guys like D'Antoni still haven't cracked the code.

But Pop is not adjusting to what this franchise created that the modern NBA is embracing. Your scouting has to change, your play calling has to change, your focus of what is the most important things in a game to win has to change! He's already wrecked how bigs are used and looked at in the NBA yet he still stubbornly believes LMA is a centerpiece! Your transition defense, rebounding, and turnovers can be overcome if you have the personnel to hit the three because you should be in the business of winning and not what you think beautiful basketball should be as taught to you by Larry Brown!! Every one of those quotes just lends more credence to why Patricia Holt needs to have a face to face talk with Pop and transition him from coaching and making personnel decisions for the Spurs after this year regardless of record. He is not a good fit for how the modern NBA game needs to be played. I would also say he is not a good handler of the modern player either. Danny Green is a great example. Danny isn't looking over his shoulder anymore, he's not scared and he's playing like it. I know a lot of you think Bertans is crap, but Pop is misusing him terribly. Sean Elliott on numerous broadcasts last year would say Davis needed to be on the floor more and getting more touches, but Pop wouldn't do it on a consistent basis. And I think Sean knows just as much basketball as TD, TP, DROB, or Manu.

Since the end of the 2007 Championship, the Spurs have one additional, and some would say their most memorable, championship. At the end of this year that will be 12 years. Some could say we should have gotten more than just one with the collection of talent the Spurs had from 2012 through 2017. But, since that can't be changed, it's the future that needs to be planned for now. For me, especially after how the season ended last year, I would have asked Pop to transition away from coaching the franchise and just concentrate with RC on front office, and installed Messina as coach. But it definitely needs to happen after this year, and Pop needs to relinquish control over everything now. He was the greatest coach for his time, but that time is now done.

He should have retired with TD, leaving the door open for Bud to make a return(as head coach this time). Bud has the Bucks playing basketball the right way while Pop is still stuck in the early 2000s.

[Keepin' it real]

I'm guessing Pop's going to try to hang on till he can pass Don Nelson.

The pay is pretty good. :pop:

[dbestpro]

Just remember. At the end of the year the team that finishes second will be no better off than where we end up.

[r0drig0lac]

the real question is how can you even improve this roster? Spurs have almost no assets. Or do you think there are teams out there trying to trade for Dante Cunningham?


How can we make changes? We can’t make trades because no one wants anyone on this team lol

but wait, they said in spurstalk that Mills and Gasol have positive value, I doubt any team will see any positive value on any spurs player except Derozan, Walker and Murray.

[james evans]

why is that term "patfo" still being thrown around? There is no such thing as a front office. There is Popovich. He's the ceo, president, gm, and coach. Bufford is a figure head. Do you really believe a collective organization of minds actually sat around and came up with the conclusion to have $100 million tied up in Gasol and Mills? There are no checks and balances in this organization. What popovich wants, no one tells him "no" because he has brought 5 rings here.

[james evans]

even if the spurs made a move to get better there’s still no way they’re winning a ring this year. would rather tank than lose in the 1st round...
Tanking would involve popovichs' playoff streak to end. So he'd rather continue 1st round exits and leave us in shambles as long as he's remembered as the guy with the longest playoff streak that never ended

[99 Problems]

Yep they need to re-up and sign Little General longer term b4 Magic talks PATFO into accepting Robert Sacre and 2 future second rounders for him. :lol Hell, he been our best player for November.

[Seventyniner]

I love that this is the same man who coached the "greatest power forward" in TD yet destroyed how that position is played, and that very same man showed the blue print to the entire NBA of how the three point shot can be used to crush teams with talents such as Durant and Westbrook, in OKC, and LeBron, Wade, and Bosh in Miami. Games 3, 4, and 5 of the 2014 finals changed the NBA forever! Golden State is just running what the Spurs used to run in 2013 and 2014 with better shooting personnel! 4 perimeter players, all live, with abilities to shot, drive and kick, and play defense, and 1 big for passing and defense. And the PF is no longer TD but Diaw or Draymond! Driving to the basket and kicking for threes is more profitable than midrange. Popovich made it work, where guys like D'Antoni still haven't cracked the code.

But Pop is not adjusting to what this franchise created that the modern NBA is embracing. Your scouting has to change, your play calling has to change, your focus of what is the most important things in a game to win has to change! He's already wrecked how bigs are used and looked at in the NBA yet he still stubbornly believes LMA is a centerpiece! Your transition defense, rebounding, and turnovers can be overcome if you have the personnel to hit the three because you should be in the business of winning and not what you think beautiful basketball should be as taught to you by Larry Brown!! Every one of those quotes just lends more credence to why Patricia Holt needs to have a face to face talk with Pop and transition him from coaching and making personnel decisions for the Spurs after this year regardless of record. He is not a good fit for how the modern NBA game needs to be played. I would also say he is not a good handler of the modern player either. Danny Green is a great example. Danny isn't looking over his shoulder anymore, he's not scared and he's playing like it. I know a lot of you think Bertans is crap, but Pop is misusing him terribly. Sean Elliott on numerous broadcasts last year would say Davis needed to be on the floor more and getting more touches, but Pop wouldn't do it on a consistent basis. And I think Sean knows just as much basketball as TD, TP, DROB, or Manu.

Since the end of the 2007 Championship, the Spurs have one additional, and some would say their most memorable, championship. At the end of this year that will be 12 years. Some could say we should have gotten more than just one with the collection of talent the Spurs had from 2012 through 2017. But, since that can't be changed, it's the future that needs to be planned for now. For me, especially after how the season ended last year, I would have asked Pop to transition away from coaching the franchise and just concentrate with RC on front office, and installed Messina as coach. But it definitely needs to happen after this year, and Pop needs to relinquish control over everything now. He was the greatest coach for his time, but that time is now done.

I am frankly amazed at how much bullshit you managed to cram into one post. Bravo.

[mo7888]

If we really want to tank or conversely, if we want to shake things up and still have some hope for the season, it seems LMA is the guy that has to be moved. What teams would be interested in him? I think Indiana and Portland would make offers... are there others?

[MoSpur02]

I'm not opposed to moving Aldridge. You would just have to receive a very good prospect in return or have a good post player to fill the gap, which I don't see happening.

[Mugen]

Meh - Spurstalk is a very small minority in the scope of the Spurs fanbase. Most of the fanbase probably doesn't care about the product on the court since the Spurs are the only show in town. This isn't LA we're talking about.

Hell you even see it with half the posters here who wouldn't say one negative thing about Pop or the FO, still giving them a pass because of past success.

Pop and RC have a lifetime pass, you won't see real change until one or both are no longer in charge.

What you're seeing now is where they were trending towards in the early 2010s before they lucked into a generational player like Kawhi.

Without the leadership of Manu and Timmy, things are only going to get worse until you see actual change in the leadership roles.

[JakeCuenca]

Still dont understand why they dont change their medical team. The med team is bad.

[sasaint]

Just remember. At the end of the year the team that finishes second will be no better off than where we end up.

Except they will undoubtedly have a much better roster. :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Tanking would involve popovichs' playoff streak to end. So he'd rather continue 1st round exits and leave us in shambles as long as he's remembered as the guy with the longest playoff streak that never ended

he won't make the Playoffs with this roster

[MoSpur02]

I can see somehow getting spanked on the road after a road trip like the one the Spurs just had, but at home??? Something needs to happen. Players and coaches need to be held accountable.

[venitian navigator]

answering the thread question... at this point...