Pop: “There’s no basketball anymore”

[coachmac87]

Feels like he’s got one foot out the door....

I made a thread a couple years ago saying he’s done after 2020 and it’s starting to really feel that way..


https://youtu.be/SGIQIvS8tDQ

[mo7888]

That's the kind of statement you make when you know don't or can't compete anymore.

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao

Game has never been more exciting than it is now. Senile old man yelling at clouds as per usual. 28th in 3PA despite being the third most accurate 3pt shooting team. Adapt to the times or retire.

[r0drig0lac]

https://media.giphy.com/media/145hX7QVWqyili/giphy.gif

[Chinook]

I see. He's hoping that the opponents will believe him and forget to show up, leading to the Spurs winning by forfeit.

[ECOV]

Lol keep talking y'all don't know shit

[TheGreatYacht]

The tides are turning and people are opening their eyes now. He's getting a shitload of hate on twitter and IG for these comments which is the first time it's ever happened. The hate was starting after his salty Kawhi comments and now it's doubled. It's Phil Jackson without Jordan and Kobe all over again

[timtonymanu]

should have retired with Manu

[coachmac87]

:lmao

Game has never been more exciting than it is now. Senile old man yelling at clouds as per usual. 28th in 3PA despite being the third most accurate 3pt shooting team. Adapt to the times or retire.

Why you so mad???

The hate is strong lol. Xxx is who you admire now?

[NASpurs]

This is the full quote that I posted yesterday. The underline parts are what I find puzzling about the construction of this roster.

"Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays." Gregg Popovich

"The inside game is kaputski," Popovich explained without helping with the spelling.

"You've got to have downhill players, you've got to have people that can penetrate and kick, you've got to have people who can switch, you've got to have big guys who can play little guys," he said.

"These days there's such an emphasis on the three because it's proven to be analytically correct," Popovich Monday offered with what appeared to be a sneer. "Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays."

[Dverde]

https://media.giphy.com/media/145hX7QVWqyili/giphy.gif
:rollin:rollin

[313]

:lmao

Game has never been more exciting than it is now. Senile old man yelling at clouds as per usual. 28th in 3PA despite being the third most accurate 3pt shooting team. Adapt to the times or retire.

[313]

This is the full quote that I posted yesterday. The underline parts are what I find puzzling about the construction of this roster.

"Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays." Gregg Popovich

"The inside game is kaputski," Popovich explained without helping with the spelling.

"You've got to have downhill players, you've got to have people that can penetrate and kick, you've got to have people who can switch, you've got to have big guys who can play little guys," he said.

"These days there's such an emphasis on the three because it's proven to be analytically correct," Popovich Monday offered with what appeared to be a sneer. "Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays."
He forgot leadership, which trumps the aforementioned requirements.

[TheGreatYacht]

If this isn't saltiness, I don't know what is.

The Kawhi comments came the day his team went sub.500, same case here. Should've picked a better time to say this, not after his team just finished scoring 9 points in a whole quarter and was down 48 points to the gutless Wolves.

[r0drig0lac]

"You've got to have downhill players, you've got to have people that can penetrate and kick, you've got to have people who can switch, you've got to have big guys who can play little guys," he said.


so he obviously knows what teams need to succeed, So why did he set up this shit roster?? 4 one dimensional shooters? this can not be serious.

[timtonymanu]

Pop’s mantra is telling players to get over themselves but his own ignorance to the game is mainly what is killing the team now.

[coachmac87]

This is the full quote that I posted yesterday. The underline parts are what I find puzzling about the construction of this roster.

"Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays." Gregg Popovich

"The inside game is kaputski," Popovich explained without helping with the spelling.

"You've got to have downhill players, you've got to have people that can penetrate and kick, you've got to have people who can switch, you've got to have big guys who can play little guys," he said.

"These days there's such an emphasis on the three because it's proven to be analytically correct," Popovich Monday offered with what appeared to be a sneer. "Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays."



I mean this isn’t 2K. You can’t just completely overhaul the roster in ONE season. Kawhi fucked everything up...they made it to the WCF last time he truly laced them up..

They did the best they could due to the circumstances. Not giving them a pass but just keeping it real and hopefully they retool this offseason for one last run.

I mean all the “tank” fans are getting a good look or taste at what it’s like to not compete...

[NASpurs]

so he obviously knows what teams need to succeed, So why did he set up this shit roster?? 4 one dimensional shooters? this can not be serious.

Let me put my conspiracy tin foil hat on... incoming stealth tank :lol

[NASpurs]

I mean this isn’t 2K. You can’t just completely overhaul the roster in ONE season. Kawhi fucked everything up...they made it to the WCF last time he truly laced them up..

They did the best they could due to the circumstances. Not giving them a pass but just keeping it real and hopefully they retool this offseason for one last run.

I mean all the “tank” fans are getting a good look or taste at what it’s like to not compete...

They knew they were going to be out of 3 and D players when they traded Kawhi and DG (lost Kyle) and they couldn't pry one of the Toronto's wings instead of Poeltl? Seriously?

[BatManu20]

Steph Curry immediately replied with "No" to Pop's comments on IG lol.

[TheGreatYacht]

I mean this isn’t 2K. You can’t just completely overhaul the roster in ONE season. Kawhi fucked everything up...they made it to the WCF last time he truly laced them up..

They did the best they could due to the circumstances. Not giving them a pass but just keeping it real and hopefully they retool this offseason for one last run.

I mean all the “tank” fans are getting a good look or taste at what it’s like to not compete...
Kawhi was the sole reason that mediocre roster made the WCF, you absolute tool :lol

They did the best they could hahaha the offseason they had cap they outbid themselves at 12:01am and gave $48M to a Jurassic ostrich. What we're getting a good look at right now is a team that was built to at least be respectable and make the playoffs while Pop rode off into the sunset turn out to be an epic failure. They didn't purposely build this thing to be 12th in the West

[NASpurs]

Kawhi was the sole reason that mediocre roster made the WCF, you absolute tool :lol

They did the best they could hahaha the offseason they had cap they outbid themselves at 12:01am and gave $48M to a Jurassic ostrich. What we're getting a good look at right now is a team that was built to at least be respectable and make the playoffs while Pop rode off into the sunset turn out to be an epic failure. They didn't purposely build this thing to be 12th in the West

Yeah this shit has been in the making for a couple of years now. Some of us were bitching about the roster since except others didn't notice because it was Kawhi who was hiding the stink.

[r0drig0lac]

I mean this isn’t 2K. You can’t just completely overhaul the roster in ONE season. Kawhi fucked everything up...they made it to the WCF last time he truly laced them up..

They did the best they could due to the circumstances. Not giving them a pass but just keeping it real and hopefully they retool this offseason for one last run.

I mean all the “tank” fans are getting a good look or taste at what it’s like to not compete...

It'sweird how some really believe it.

[phxspurfan]

he's right. NBA is officially WWE now in 2018. Teams all scoring 140 every night.

[bic50]

If this isn't saltiness, I don't know what is.

The Kawhi comments came the day his team went sub.500, same case here. Should've picked a better time to say this, not after his team just finished scoring 9 points in a whole quarter and was down 48 points to the gutless Wolves.

[coachmac87]

It'sweird how some really believe it.

I mean how can you prove that they didn’t?

You’re just assuming just like I am..it takes two to tango and Nephew screwed their leverage...

Like I said this isn’t 2K

[BackHome]

It’s true basketball has gotten worse it’s pretty boring can’t even compare to the Bulls or the Lakers and Celtics years. It’s such a soft game compared to what it used to be and for no reason no concussion issues like football

[HarlemHeat37]

He doesn't have to enjoy the game, but if he's gonna continue coaching, he needs to adapt..

This is the same shit Phil Jackson said before he left:lol his comments were more egregious, since he said the Warriors would never win by relying on 3s, but still, same old man yelling to get off his lawn..

[timtonymanu]

Who held a gun to their head to sign Mills and Gasol to contract extensions ? Or thinking post Achilles Rudy Gay can stay healthy? Guess they couldn’t have done better under those circumstances. :cry I believe in PATFO

[coachmac87]

Kawhi was the sole reason that mediocre roster made the WCF, you absolute tool :lol

They did the best they could hahaha the offseason they had cap they outbid themselves at 12:01am and gave $48M to a Jurassic ostrich. What we're getting a good look at right now is a team that was built to at least be respectable and make the playoffs while Pop rode off into the sunset turn out to be an epic failure. They didn't purposely build this thing to be 12th in the West

But Kawhi was part of the plan and they were more successful against GSW doing than any other team doing so..

Things change when you lose Kawhi for a year and he sabotage the franchise and his value yet they still competed and were in prime position to make noise..

But Kawhi stayed home.


But the Spurs suck which is what you want right? So why you so mad and troll/hate?

[KDKSpurs24]

It’s about that time for Pop..

[UZER]

“You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”

[Hoops Czar]

There's no coaching anymore either.

[Nivek_ogre]

I agree the game has gotten a little boring. Not really agreeing with pop on everything though. Higher scoring doesn't necessarily mean better games. I actually enjoy defense and hard nosed basketball. Basketball should be a contact sport. The rules and the way the game is played actually makes it hard for teams to have a real rivalry.

[r0drig0lac]

I mean how can you prove that they didn’t?

You’re just assuming just like I am..it takes two to tango and Nephew screwed their leverage...

Like I said this isn’t 2K

you're correct, I disagree when you say "They did the best they could due to the circumstances", the shortcomings of the roster would be there with or without Kawhi, with Kawhi they would only be minimized, as I said, we had more than other teams in situations like this, we got back a top 20 player, logically he needs a bigger support than Kawhi to succeed, so this was about the front office, Mills, Forbes and Marco on the same team and no small forwards would not make sense with Kawhi, Derozan or MJ.

[TheGreatYacht]

There's no coaching anymore either.
Does bad coaching count? If so, I know where to find it...

[Hoops Czar]

The only reason he was resting players for nationally televised games and dagainst elite competition is so he wouldn't hgave been found out sooner. Rest had nothing to do with it.

[K...]

they should restrict three point shots to the last 5 seconds of the shot clock. Make teams run offense or something. I have an even dumber idea of just capping the amount of three point shots per quarter like fouls.

[coachmac87]

There's no coaching anymore either.

This.


That’s why he’s venting. He’s a coach and arguably the best...but launching 3’s isn’t coaching. Which honestly doesn’t allow coaches to impact as much.

[SuperCam]

“You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”

These old white former great coaches seem to have a trend of embarassing themselves as they spew crap on and off the court on the way out tbh...

[Hoops Czar]

Does bad coaching count? If so, I know where to find it...
:lmao

[Spurs da champs]

Warriors have been hacking the hell out of Kawhi with these screens lmao.

[phxspurfan]

It’s true basketball has gotten worse it’s pretty boring can’t even compare to the Bulls or the Lakers and Celtics years. It’s such a soft game compared to what it used to be and for no reason no concussion issues like football

They changed the game to appeal to the most corporates and casuals as possible. That gets the TV deals and sponsorships. Ball go in hoop, yay cheer. Drink some beer

[Spurtacular]

The tides are turning and people are opening their eyes now. He's getting a shitload of hate on twitter and IG for these comments which is the first time it's ever happened. The hate was starting after his salty Kawhi comments and now it's doubled. It's Phil Jackson without Jordan and Kobe all over again

There's a shitload of faggots like you out there, tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

There's a shitload of faggots like you out there, tbh.
You learn Chinese yet? Or does Jimmer not let you out of the house, faggot.

[JeffDuncan]

I think Pop has been watching too many Spurs games.

[paperboy77]

Why you so mad???

The hate is strong lol. Xxx is who you admire now?


LMAO! Really ridiculous! :tongue

[ducks]

[QUOTE=coachmac87;9618845]Feels like he’s got one foot out the door....

I made a thread a couple years ago saying he’s done after 2020 and it’s starting to really feel that way..


https://youtu.be/SGIQIvS8tDQ[/QUOTE



I hope he does not make it that far
Hell I hope he runs against trump and gets his ass handed to him

[BillMc]

This is the full quote that I posted yesterday. The underline parts are what I find puzzling about the construction of this roster.

"Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays." Gregg Popovich

"The inside game is kaputski," Popovich explained without helping with the spelling.

"You've got to have downhill players, you've got to have people that can penetrate and kick, you've got to have people who can switch, you've got to have big guys who can play little guys," he said.

"These days there's such an emphasis on the three because it's proven to be analytically correct," Popovich Monday offered with what appeared to be a sneer. "Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays."

i agree with Pop. The 3 has made the game much less interesting. The NBA won't get rid of it, but their product isn't as good as before imo

[TimDunkem]

Get over it. Adapt, overcome, or die. Seems like Spurs basketball is going to way of option 3.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

I think the main issue is the pussifcation of the league. I mean if hard fouls were still allowed and hand checking on defense then would people even complain about all the 3's? Like I'm tired of watching a guy hit 7 or 8 three pointers and not get his ass kicked for it. It's the equivalent of a lay up now and back in the old days when you drove into the lane over and over, you were going to get taken out. I want Steph curry or Lillard or all those guys showboating after a shot to just get sent to the floor the next time they come down the lane and have a guy stand over them.

[TheGreatYacht]

The growth of the 3pt shot is the best thing that could've happened to the NBA, especially in the super team era. It gives teams with less talent a chance of competing against any team. The 14th seed in the West is closer to the 1st seed than it is to the 15th. There's more parity now. Had Houston not choked in G7 last year, we could've seen a different champion.

Again. It's time to get with the times or retire. 28th in 3PA.

[paperboy77]

Pop is right. So is what BackHome wrote.. It’s true basketball has gotten worse it’s pretty boring can’t even compare to the Bulls or the Lakers and Celtics years. It’s such a soft game compared to what it used to be and for no reason no concussion issues like football...

Not just that but what is wrong with physicality? Anyone who's played ball knows how that shit goes. To only allow offensive players excel is shit and done for the money. It's all about the money... i wouldn't be surprised if they allowed women to play in the league next.

It's the way of the world i guess. No more gangster rap, country music is popular now because they added some R&B stuff to it, rock does not really exist and back to rap.. this choppy flow, mumble rap is complete shit. Watch some of these fools around here are gonna eventually sport the KL's New Balance shoes.

I guess I'm just getting old.

Edit: And to hell with Steph Curry. Pop isn't dissing him. That dude's incredible in any era or with any rules. I don't think Pop means Curry, just all the other "specialists" that are now stars I guess.

[Spurs fever]

Whining isn't going to make our team better.....

[spurraider21]

i'm seeing phil jackson all over again

[weebo]

When guys like James Harden go to the line 15+ a night and teams like the warriors jacking 3's like they're going out of style because you aren't allowed to play D---ya basketball is no more-- at least not the basketball that was played in the late 80's-the early 2000's.

[Arcadian]

I mean, the game is pretty gay right now. Not only old people share that opinion.

[BackHome]

The growth of the 3pt shot is the best thing that could've happened to the NBA, especially in the super team era. It gives teams with less talent a chance of competing against any team. The 14th seed in the West is closer to the 1st seed than it is to the 15th. There's more parity now. Had Houston not choked in G7 last year, we could've seen a different champion.

Again. It's time to get with the times or retire. 28th in 3PA.

Again. TheGreatShit is a fucking idiot

[HarlemHeat37]

Why are so many people missing the point?

You can fully agree with him about disliking this style of basketball, BUT HE ISN'T AN EX-COACH DOING ANALYSIS, HE'S AN ACTIVE COACH..

It's alarming that he continues to say this shit and more importantly, still relying on mid-range Js and antiquated basketball..adapt to rest of the fucking league..

[TDomination]

The growth of the 3pt shot is the best thing that could've happened to the NBA, especially in the super team era. It gives teams with less talent a chance of competing against any team. The 14th seed in the West is closer to the 1st seed than it is to the 15th. There's more parity now. Had Houston not choked in G7 last year, we could've seen a different champion.

Again. It's time to get with the times or retire. 28th in 3PA.

Hardly the best thing to happen lol. Its become a crutch now for almost every team.

Last year Rockets shoot 44 three's in game 7 against the Warriors. Only make 7. They lost by like 9. At some point, you need to stop shooting those 3's and try to make a play a different way. and i've seen it time and time and time again. Even with the Spurs. Shots are not going in and they continue to keep shooting the 3, extremely frustrating.

Teams become so reliant at times its where if their shots don't go in, the strategy becomes to continue shooting the 3 until they go in.

As far as parity goes, lets see... last 4 champions? Warriors, Warriors, Cavs, Warriors. Your right, so much parity. In the end, the super team will still overcome the 3 pt chuckers. All it does is allow a team to win maybe a few extra games through out the season when they are shooting well and the other team not so well. But in playoff times, its all about making the extra pass, making the smart play, making that key stop that wins the game. Not shooting 40 threes.

And Pops time is definitely nearing an end, no doubt about that. I created a thread about 2 months ago saying that i truly believe Pop will retire after next year. Thats when his contract ends.
My hope is that there is a replacement already in place, maybe Messina? and let them know about it ahead of time so that they don't get another gig somewhere else. And hopefully we'll have a contending team by then with an all star Murray and all star Walker (i know i dream)

[Dejounte]

Again. TheGreatShit is a fucking idiot

It's TheGreatContrarian. Dude gets off on being edgy all the time. Spends 24 hours posting on this forum.

[weebo]

:lmao the man responsible for some of the most boring basketball ever played has the nerve to say that.

boring is watching james harden/KD etc going to the line 20x/night

[TimDunkem]

boring is watching james harden/KD etc going to the line 20x/night

How is that any less exciting than watching DD and LMA do it?

[JeffDuncan]

Why are so many people missing the point?

You can fully agree with him about disliking this style of basketball, BUT HE ISN'T AN EX-COACH DOING ANALYSIS, HE'S AN ACTIVE COACH..

It's alarming that he continues to say this shit and more importantly, still relying on mid-range Js and antiquated basketball..adapt to rest of the fucking league..

Yes, sounds like something a retired coach would put in his autobiography.

Putting together a 3pt shooting roster of Mills, Forbes, Belinelli, and Bertans really does look like only a token effort at something he hates.

[TimDunkem]

Yes, sounds like something a retired coach would put in his autobiography.

Putting together a 3pt shooting roster of Mills, Forbes, Belinelli, and Bertans really does look like only a token effort at something he hates.

No shit. Pop is so disingenuous. :lol

[J_Paco]

:lmao

Game has never been more exciting than it is now. Senile old man yelling at clouds as per usual. 28th in 3PA despite being the third most accurate 3pt shooting team. Adapt to the times or retire.

His best players aren't high volume three-point shooters, idiot. That percentage would nose dive, the team would continue to lose (probably in even more embarrassing fashion) and y'all would continue to cry and complain.

He has to coach to his player's strengths, like when Kawhi was here and shot a ton mid range shots, but that style isn't conducive to winning in the modern NBA.

[TheGreatYacht]

His best players are high volume three-point shooters, idiot. That percentage would nose dive, the team would continue to lose (probably in even more embarrassing fashion) and y'all would continue to cry and complain.
You've got to be the stupidest motherfucker I've ever seen. His best players are high volume 3pt shooters? Aldridge and DeRozan together average 2 3pt attempts a game.

[RC_Drunkford]

I mean, the game is pretty gay right now. Not only old people share that opinion.

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[TDMVPDPOY]

guys taking 3pt shots without a rebounder inside

bigs stepping out just like above
bigs taking midrange or lowpost, yet the other big is outside on the perimeter, no rebounder down low...

in other words, whatever happen to the other rebounder down low, unless they think everyone is so efficient with fga that theres no need for the rebounding, just run back down get ready to play defense

[J_Paco]

I mean this isn’t 2K. You can’t just completely overhaul the roster in ONE season. Kawhi fucked everything up...they made it to the WCF last time he truly laced them up..

They did the best they could due to the circumstances. Not giving them a pass but just keeping it real and hopefully they retool this offseason for one last run.

I mean all the “tank” fans are getting a good look or taste at what it’s like to not compete...

Rational thought isn't allowed on these boards just trolling, complaining, crying and cliff jumping. As if they could reshape the entire roster when their intent was try to work things out and bring Leonard/Green back.

Instead of requesting a trade last summer (2017), when his value was highest, Leonard sabotaged an entire season and sunk his value (kind like Jimmy Butler waiting until the day before training camp to request a trade) meaning Spurs got less than equal value.

It isn't hard to understand except for the people parroting the same tired schtick in every thread.

[J_Paco]

You've got to be the stupidest motherfucker I've ever seen. His best players are high volume 3pt shooters? Aldridge and DeRozan together average 2 3pt attempts a game.

I meant to say aren't, buddy. Meaning Aldridge and DeRozan neither of which is proficient from the outside the arch.

Everyone else are role-players that need to be open or coming off a screen. Bertans, Belinelli, Mills & Forbes aren't great shooting off the dribble.

Pretty easy to understand except for a Kawhi slurpee like yourself.

[TheRemix]

This is nothing new. Pop has said the same thing for years. He hates the 3 but he knows it's important in today's game. Just his humble opinion

[Budkin]

Steph Curry immediately replied with "No" to Pop's comments on IG lol.

Steph's entire game is 3 pointers, are you shocked?

[TDMVPDPOY]

Steph's entire game is 3 pointers, are you shocked?

his nothing more then a chucker, give him +10 3pta, he makes half, his on 15pts, easy to run up ur pts

hence if he chucked in the 80-90s with those low % shots, coaches would pull him out for chucking...

kobe would relish in todays league where his allowed to chuck 3s, fade away 3s, 1mtre behind 3pt line chucking up stupid shots...yet wont be called out for it

[UZER]

they should restrict three point shots to the last 5 seconds of the shot clock. Make teams run offense or something. I have an even dumber idea of just capping the amount of three point shots per quarter like fouls.

I have had the opposite idea in my head for awhile. I say the 3 point shot should only count for the the first 10 seconds of the shot clock. Anything after that counts as 2 no matter where it’s from. Nothing worse than seeing solid D for 23 seconds only to see a sneak out 3 and the last second. It punishes the D for not playing 24 seconds of perfect defense. That’s too much to ask with the way the game is called today and with today’s shooters.

Then, let the all 3s count in the last 6 minutes of the 4th qtr.

[SAGirl]

I agree the game has gotten a little boring. Not really agreeing with pop on everything though. Higher scoring doesn't necessarily mean better games. I actually enjoy defense and hard nosed basketball. Basketball should be a contact sport. The rules and the way the game is played actually makes it hard for teams to have a real rivalry.
+ 1
I do enjoy the 3 ball, sure.. but it's gone too far. I don't enjoy chuckfests where no one plays defense and everyone is looking like they are at shootaround.

Look at this zone defense. It makes you wonder, this is a real NBA game. This might as well be a high school game.


https://streamable.com/nr2dl

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

pop is right per par

[KimmyGib]

Personally agree about the modern game being less interesting. Still, wtf is Pop doing? Trying to prove a point?

:pop: "I'll build my team to shoot the fewest 3's and have the worst perimeter defense and still find a way to win."

[SAGirl]

they should restrict three point shots to the last 5 seconds of the shot clock. Make teams run offense or something. I have an even dumber idea of just capping the amount of three point shots per quarter like fouls.

After the first 15 3s in a half all others count for 2. :lol If you still want to keep chucking after that, go ahead.

[BackHome]

It has become the all Pussy league maybe in a year or two women will be part of the NBA team that’s how soft it becoming.

[SAGirl]

They changed the game to appeal to the most corporates and casuals as possible. That gets the TV deals and sponsorships. Ball go in hoop, yay cheer. Drink some beer
This is just hilarious.

[KimmyGib]

The growth of the 3pt shot is the best thing that could've happened to the NBA, especially in the super team era. It gives teams with less talent a chance of competing against any team. The 14th seed in the West is closer to the 1st seed than it is to the 15th. There's more parity now.


Oh, is that why Golden State has been losing to so many bad teams over the last 4 years, and not setting regular season win records and steamrolling through playoffs? Parity. Right.

[JeffDuncan]

I mean this isn’t 2K. You can’t just completely overhaul the roster in ONE season. Kawhi fucked everything up...

Some of you guys sound like a drunken, unemployed bum complaining it's all his ex-wife's fault that he just lost another job.

Kawhi had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the current Spurs roster. Nothing. Period.

Kawhi didn't hire any of the players on the roster. Pop did.

Pop built the Spurs roster, you delusional fruitcake.

ONE season you say. You are insane. You need counseling. Pop had TWENTY YEARS to plan for replacing every single player on the roster, every single season, as any responsible administrator would do, because injuries are so common.

Any competent administrator would have had candidates in mind to take Kawhi's place by this time last year, and would have had a serious plan to get one of them. Just in case. Not that you'd expect a Kawhi clone, but if you were serious about what you were doing, you could damn sure find somebody. So the team could continue without collapsing.

Steph Curry is out. So, I guess you'd say the Warriors must have lost by 39 to the Raps tonight, like we lost to the Wolves. Except, no, they didn't. They lost, but they took it to overtime. They have a good roster. They are still competitive.

Because they have good management.

We don't.

[gambit1990]

should consider retiring...

[sasaint]

I have had the opposite idea in my head for awhile. I say the 3 point shot should only count for the the first 10 seconds of the shot clock. Anything after that counts as 2 no matter where it’s from. Nothing worse than seeing solid D for 23 seconds only to see a sneak out 3 and the last second. It punishes the D for not playing 24 seconds of perfect defense. That’s too much to ask with the way the game is called today and with today’s shooters.

Then, let the all 3s count in the last 6 minutes of the 4th qtr.

You and K have interesting ideas on the subject. I don’t like changing the rule in the 4th quarter, but I would like to see some experimentation along the lines you suggest. Only potential problem is that it essentially creates 2 shot clocks for officials to have to monitor and review. But something needs to be done to restore some real strategy and plays back into the game. :tu :toast

[TheGreatYacht]

Oh, is that why Golden State has been losing to so many bad teams over the last 4 years, and not setting regular season win records and steamrolling through playoffs? Parity. Right.
The rest of the league just caught up to the 3pt shooting this year, smart ass.


The 3 point explosion has been insane. The spurs shoot 24.6 threes a game this season, 29th in the league. The average is 31.3 threes a game. 24.1 threes a game was the average just 3 years ago and the most a team took was 31.6.Go back to the 2013 season, and the 2019 spurs would be taking the most threes a game in the entire league - the average was 20 threes a game and the most a team took was 23.1

That's a post from some guy on Reddit that stood out to me.

[sasaint]

They changed the game to appeal to the most corporates and casuals as possible. That gets the TV deals and sponsorships. Ball go in hoop, yay cheer. Drink some beer

Depressingly succinct.

[UZER]

You and K have interesting ideas on the subject. I don’t like changing the rule in the 4th quarter, but I would like to see some experimentation along the lines you suggest. Only potential problem is that it essentially creates 2 shot clocks for officials to have to monitor and review. But something needs to be done to restore some real strategy and plays back into the game. :tu :toast

Yeah it’s definitely not perfect, just a rough idea. My idea for reviewing whether it was off in time would be just like they do now with the toe on the 3pt line review. Check it during a timeout or between quarters.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Well Pop, if "There's no basketball anymore" then it is probably time for you to retire. You are getting out coached too damn often this season by younger coaches. You have owned the 4th quarter your whole career but, now our guys seem to look at halftime as the end of the game. The players honestly look like they are tuning you out. You spend too much time bitching about nothing. Your end of game press conferences show that you are still an arrogant old cuss who enjoys belittling others. You are still living in the past, i.e., the days of George Mikan. Even the old Boston Celtics after Mikan (days of Bill Russell, Bob Cousy, KC and Sam Jones, Bill Sharman, Tom Heinsohn, Satch Sanders, John Havlicek, etc. played fast ball and shot long set shots as they called them back then. Lighten up and work your magic and get this team back on track. If the loss of your wife is making things rough then take a leave of absence for a few weeks. You've earned that. But, don't let it wear the team down. Don't let President Trump get under your skin. Don't go after the KaWhitter in the press. He and the Raptors are doing fine and they're not worrying about you. Any of us can watch this team and see the problems. There is no chemistry. There isn't much in the desire department and there damn sure ain't NO defense. Get the guys back in the gym and work on the basics. And get them in shape. Way, way, way too many times as our guys are getting back on defense (slowly I might add) the opposing ball handler just runs full speed into the paint and scores a quick layup or slam dunk. Just do it, Pop. :ihit

[therealtruth]

The league has been moving that way for a while. PATFO should have been stocking up on 3 and D players and not shipping them away.

[YGWHI]

But Kawhi was part of the plan and they were more successful against GSW doing than any other team doing so..

Things change when you lose Kawhi for a year and he sabotage the franchise and his value yet they still competed and were in prime position to make noise..

Kawhi was part of the plan and...? The next season they didn't re-sign Dedmon Simmons Lee. And this season, Kyle Anderson.

What was the rest of THE plan?

Giving Mills and Gasol big contracts?

Surrounding Kawhi with LMA+bunch of d-league players +old guys like Pau?

Yeah...What amazing plan, Pop.

[Rusty]

I don’t know what Pop is talking about. That Raptors Warriors game was very entertaining to watch

[John B]

I agree with Pops that the game has gone ugly with too much emphasis on the 3. Obviously he's talking in frustration because of Spurs' current below .500 record. And he doesn't have the personnel to stop the outpouring of 3's, thanks mainly to Kiwi bailing out which caught him by surprise and unprepared. Pops originally tried to counter, with athletic defensive guard DJ to disrupt Curry or CP3, selecting another athletic defensive guard LW4, etc. I think Spurs would have countered successfully if Kiwi did not bail out. In a dreamworld, if we had: DJ, Green, Kiwi, Gay, LMA we could've competed against any 3-loving teams, even the Dubs.

[superbigtime]

Pop's points are valid. Plus the game sucks when your team is full of has beens and never will be's. The game which is passing Pop by is not a good product any more. 3 balling, over-reffing, and weak owners have wrecked the league. I wish they would simply let players compete and be physical. These are among the most talented athletes in the world (not counting the spurs, ha), so let them play. I used to play in multiple fantasy leagues every year, and these days the game just sucks and is a shadow of what it used to be. Always a Spur fan but oh my how the wheels are falling off.

[John B]

Pop's points are valid. Plus the game sucks when your team is full of has beens and never will be's. The game which is passing Pop by is not a good product any more. 3 balling, over-reffing, and weak owners have wrecked the league. I wish they would simply let players compete and be physical. These are among the most talented athletes in the world (not counting the spurs, ha), so let them play. I used to play in multiple fantasy leagues every year, and these days the game just sucks and is a shadow of what it used to be. Always a Spur fan but oh my how the wheels are falling off.
Well it was the beautiful game that brought down the banana boat dream team packing. And I was really hoping before that it would again be the Spurs to put a stop on the 3-balling. But then puking Kiwi bailed out on us. Gone are the big 3, and I don't see anyone in Spurs uniform as proper heir, not until Demar becomes the best defensive player of the team. Maybe Murray if he could master the outside shots, and his inside game, but it's a long way to go. Or maybe LW4, but it remains to be seen. Ugh I hate to follow another team, but this is so frustrating :cry

[superbigtime]

Well it was the beautiful game that brought down the banana boat dream team packing. And I was really hoping before that it would again be the Spurs to put a stop on the 3-balling. But then puking Kiwi bailed out on us. Gone are the big 3, and I don't see anyone in Spurs uniform as proper heir, not until Demar becomes the best defensive player of the team. Maybe Murray if he could master the outside shots, and his inside game, but it's a long way to go. Or maybe LW4, but it remains to be seen. Ugh I hate to follow another team, but this is so frustrating :cry

yep, lost season. Next year Murray will be playing, Pau will be gone, and hopefully some new faces in their 20s with ability. Realistically, the only building block the spurs have right now is their injured point guard. This is definitely a time of uncertainty, which is no fun.

[bic50]

I don’t know what Pop is talking about. That Raptors Warriors game was very entertaining to watch

[John B]

yep, lost season. Next year Murray will be playing, Pau will be gone, and hopefully some new faces in their 20s with ability. Realistically, the only building block the spurs have right now is their injured point guard. This is definitely a time of uncertainty, which is no fun.
I hope it's a dramatic learning experience enough on the FO to bring athletic 3D players, instead of short, un-athletic, no-defense ball-chuckers, and has been's.

[superbigtime]

I hope it's a dramatic learning experience enough on the FO to bring athletic 3D players, instead of short, un-athletic, no-defense ball-chuckers, and has been's.

Unfortunately, I don't think so. The last 3 off seasons have seen many costly errors and brought such limited marginal players to the roster which left just about every spurs fan and pundit scratching their heads. Over half of the roster is pure garbage, undeniable. I am a pessimistic sardonic crotchety SOB these days. Like the coach.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Spurstalk : NBA sucks, 100 3 pointers per game ruin the game, no defense, 140+ scores suck
Pop : NBA sucks, 100 3 pointers per game ruin the game, no defense, 140+ scores suck
Spurstalk : Pop's an idiot, Pop can't adapt, Pop is whining, SHOOT MOAR 3s!!11!

[r0drig0lac]

Why are so many people missing the point?

You can fully agree with him about disliking this style of basketball, BUT HE ISN'T AN EX-COACH DOING ANALYSIS, HE'S AN ACTIVE COACH..

It's alarming that he continues to say this shit and more importantly, still relying on mid-range Js and antiquated basketball..adapt to rest of the fucking league..

I agree, Pop is correct (in fact, almost always he is correct), the league has lost all physicality and defenses are prevented from .... defending, this does not make any sense , formerly you had many identities different in the teams, today 95% of the league plays the same way, the rules (or lack of them) force you to play in a single way, or you have no chances

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Why are so many people missing the point?

You can fully agree with him about disliking this style of basketball, BUT HE ISN'T AN EX-COACH DOING ANALYSIS, HE'S AN ACTIVE COACH..

It's alarming that he continues to say this shit and more importantly, still relying on mid-range Js and antiquated basketball..adapt to rest of the fucking league..

Pop is the last coach in the history of the NBA you could accuse of being unable to adapt - from the triple towers of 99 to the beautiful game of 2014 there's no coach ever to have changed as much.

[vavvi]

Reasonable analysis from Jalen Rose. I also think that a) Pop is right b) Pop is about to retire from NBA coaching
Probably he should move to the front office starting from next season. Can you be general manager and at the same time coach Team US? No ethical conflict there?

[r0drig0lac]

Some of you guys sound like a drunken, unemployed bum complaining it's all his ex-wife's fault that he just lost another job.

Kawhi had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the current Spurs roster. Nothing. Period.

Kawhi didn't hire any of the players on the roster. Pop did.

Pop built the Spurs roster, you delusional fruitcake.

ONE season you say. You are insane. You need counseling. Pop had TWENTY YEARS to plan for replacing every single player on the roster, every single season, as any responsible administrator would do, because injuries are so common.

Any competent administrator would have had candidates in mind to take Kawhi's place by this time last year, and would have had a serious plan to get one of them. Just in case. Not that you'd expect a Kawhi clone, but if you were serious about what you were doing, you could damn sure find somebody. So the team could continue without collapsing.

Steph Curry is out. So, I guess you'd say the Warriors must have lost by 39 to the Raps tonight, like we lost to the Wolves. Except, no, they didn't. They lost, but they took it to overtime. They have a good roster. They are still competitive.

Because they have good management.

We don't.
qft

[Clipper Nation]

There's still basketball in LA, Toronto, Oakland, Denver, Milwaukee, Philly... seems like it's just San Antonio where this is a problem. Maybe Poop shouldn't have built a crap team around two fake "stars" if he doesn't like what he's seeing.

[lefty]

I have to agree with Poop tbh

There is no variety in the game today

4 three point shooters standing there like beisbol players, pick and roll go to the rim or kick out to 3 pt chucker

I really enjoy watching Curry or Doncic make very difficult 3 point shots, but for the rest..........

[Clipper Nation]

I have to agree with Poop tbh

There is no variety in the game today

4 three point shooters standing there like beisbol players, pick and roll go to the rim or kick out to 3 pt chucker

I really enjoy watching Curry or Doncic make very difficult 3 point shots, but for the rest..........
There's still some variety, tbh. The Clippers' offense is pretty much Poop's wet dream. 27th in 3PA, 11th in midrange attempts. Indiana and Memphis also come to mind as teams playing differently from the norm.

Poop is just deflecting because he's being exposed without Duncan, DRob, Manu or Kawhi around to carry him.

[sammy]

I mean this isn’t 2K. You can’t just completely overhaul the roster in ONE season. Kawhi fucked everything up...they made it to the WCF last time he truly laced them up..

They did the best they could due to the circumstances. Not giving them a pass but just keeping it real and hopefully they retool this offseason for one last run.

I mean all the “tank” fans are getting a good look or taste at what it’s like to not compete...

I agree! I don't see nothing wrong in his statement! The NBA is trash! Three point shot has ruined the game! I loved the defense and having a center in the middle blocking shots now the NBA has changed it to three point shot aka GSW and changed the rules where you can't defend without getting called a foul! Pop is doing the best with what he has. He's frustrated and you can yell at them but they are grown men and know that they are responsible on what happens on the court! Pop can't make the shots for them! I'm sure they will go through film and point out their mistakes and then practice!

LMA, DeRozen and Gay are the only ones worth keeping, release the other scrubs! I don't know what's going to happen to this team maybe they should tank but I will still support them win or lose as I've been a fan of this team forever! Love my Spurs! Go Spurs Go!

[TheGreatYacht]

There's still basketball in LA, Toronto, Oakland, Denver, Milwaukee, Philly... seems like it's just San Antonio where this is a problem. Maybe Poop shouldn't have built a crap team around two fake "stars" if he doesn't like what he's seeing.

[bic50]

Everything sucks when you're losing

[HarlemHeat37]

Pop is the last coach in the history of the NBA you could accuse of being unable to adapt - from the triple towers of 99 to the beautiful game of 2014 there's no coach ever to have changed as much.

Sure, I've said that many times, it's the reason I think he's the GOAT coach and better than Jackson or anybody else..

That doesn't mean he's going to be that way forever, as evidenced by the past 2 years..he's 70 years old and hates the way the game is played today, I find it difficult to believe that he's still hungry enough to evolve again, why would he be? He's accomplished everything there is to accomplish in the NBA..

[RGMCSE]

Everything sucks when you're losing

Also when you dont have 3 HOF including a Top 5 talent all time to carry you.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Why you so mad???

The hate is strong lol. Xxx is who you admire now?

My thoughts too. Super angry lol. Look at his pic. Loves people who abuses and tortures women. I'm not sure if he's even a Spurs fan. Every post he has made for the passed 5 years is him shitting all over the Spurs.

[boutons_deux]

I don’t know what Pop is talking about. That Raptors Warriors game was very entertaining to watch

out of 2400 NBA games / year, probably only 400 are watchable, meaningful, and fewer are important to standings.

[Harry Callahan]

How well did Milwaukee replace Jabbar when he did what Nephew tried to do?
How well did Houston replace Hakeem?
How well did Miami or Cleveland replace LeBron when he bolted multiple times?
How well did Chicago replace Jordan when he retired?

How well have the Lakers rebuilt since 2010? Their best player is now 34 years old and they have blown several top five draft picks (building blocks) along the way. In fact, they are horrible at drafting talent on balance since Kobe died as a basketball player.

Losing a premium player like Nephew is a blow you cannot recover from in the short term. DeRozan is a very nice player, but does not provide what the 2016-2017 Nephew did.

I don't think Nephew plays very hard on D now because he knows he runs the Toronto franchise right now - no demands are being made on him. They don't want to offend the amateur "group" getting those 2nd tier shoe deals.


Slamming the Spurs front office is a cottage industry around here, but when you get ZERO opportunities to draft top ten players for 20+ years it catches up with you. That's why no NBA team did what the Spurs did through 2016-2017 for two decades.

Pop and his staff need to develop the young players already here and add to that group. The Gasols and Gays and Cunninghams and Poindexters will be gone soon (hopefully). Rudy spent too much time in losing situations and that offsets his good qualities offensively. Too many dumb passes and defensive errors.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Pop is right. If you want to win in this league you have to shoot threes well and in mass quantity. Beyond that it's just teaching guys to move without the ball and run the pick and roll. A lot of the strategy behind the game is gone now. Every team is playing the same way, and basically you field a team of 5 guys that can run fast and shoot from deep. Post up games are gone. Grind out defensive teams are gone. Half court games are gone. Midrange games are gone. Guys that were great in previous eras wouldn't be in today's NBA. All coaches have to adhere to the same basic strategy and recruit the same type of player. I think the parity we're starting to see is going to continue to evolve because no team will be able to differentiate itself from anyone else. The only teams that will rise above will be the super teams assembled with the best shooters. Unless you copy that approach you're not going to be a very good team. It is boring, and it's really made the game less fun to watch for a basketball purist. For the simple-minded fan it's pretty entertaining. It's basically like watching NASCAR where the basic strategy is going the fastest. Now in the NBA it's just a three point shooting contest.


One thing Pop was able to do in the past is change the game. He was really the first to emphasize a focus on using foreign talent. Before the Spurs made it a point of emphasis, the only foreign players that played in the NBA were the marquee guys that everyone knew were super-talented. The depth of foreign talent wasn't mined until the Spurs opened that door. Pop also was able to build rosters, strategies, and styles of play over the years that could beat the Malone-Stockton Jazz teams, the Shaq-Kobe Laker teams, the Nash-Stoudemire Suns teams, the Lebron-Wade Heat teams, often with less talent than some of those teams, just a superior approach. Ironically, the Beautiful Game actually became the foundation for what the league has evolved into today. So in some ways, Pop created his own monster.


I feel his frustration though. Today's game is lacking in strategy and depth. It's pretty much the same product, no matter what team you're watching. Just like watching the cars run in a circle, knowing there's a half dozen or so in the field that are a little faster than the rest.

[sasaint]

Pop is right. If you want to win in this league you have to shoot threes well and in mass quantity. Beyond that it's just teaching guys to move without the ball and run the pick and roll. A lot of the strategy behind the game is gone now. Every team is playing the same way, and basically you field a team of 5 guys that can run fast and shoot from deep. Post up games are gone. Grind out defensive teams are gone. Half court games are gone. Midrange games are gone. Guys that were great in previous eras wouldn't be in today's NBA. All coaches have to adhere to the same basic strategy and recruit the same type of player. I think the parity we're starting to see is going to continue to evolve because no team will be able to differentiate itself from anyone else. The only teams that will rise above will be the super teams assembled with the best shooters. Unless you copy that approach you're not going to be a very good team. It is boring, and it's really made the game less fun to watch for a basketball purist. For the simple-minded fan it's pretty entertaining. It's basically like watching NASCAR where the basic strategy is going the fastest. Now in the NBA it's just a three point shooting contest.


One thing Pop was able to do in the past is change the game. He was really the first to emphasize a focus on using foreign talent. Before the Spurs made it a point of emphasis, the only foreign players that played in the NBA were the marquee guys that everyone knew were super-talented. The depth of foreign talent wasn't mined until the Spurs opened that door. Pop also was able to build rosters, strategies, and styles of play over the years that could beat the Malone-Stockton Jazz teams, the Shaq-Kobe Laker teams, the Nash-Stoudemire Suns teams, the Lebron-Wade Heat teams, often with less talent than some of those teams, just a superior approach. Ironically, the Beautiful Game actually became the foundation for what the league has evolved into today. So in some ways, Pop created his own monster.


I feel his frustration though. Today's game is lacking in strategy and depth. It's pretty much the same product, no matter what team you're watching. Just like watching the cars run in a circle, knowing there's a half dozen or so in the field that are a little faster than the rest.

:toast

[dbestpro]

:lmao

Game has never been more exciting than it is now. Senile old man yelling at clouds as per usual. 28th in 3PA despite being the third most accurate 3pt shooting team. Adapt to the times or retire.

Usually I try to see what you are saying under all the yah. Basketball is more exciting? The 3 only game has not only robbed of the great play of big men, it has also stopped the great dunks. Defense too is another victim. If you like a game of H.O.R.S.E. then so be it. The game is eroding. Effort and athleticism have been replaced for bomb's away. It has nothing to do with the Spurs. I really can't think of a two team matchup in today's game that is must see TV.

[Harry Callahan]

The media matra since 1997 has been peddling "the Spurs are boring" because their glamor teams were really not good enough many times. Losing more often than not is boring.

[TD 21]

He doesn't have to enjoy the game, but if he's gonna continue coaching, he needs to adapt..

This is the same shit Phil Jackson said before he left:lol
his comments were more egregious, since he said the Warriors would never win by relying on 3s, but still, same old man yelling to get off his lawn..



Why are so many people missing the point?

You can fully agree with him about disliking this style of basketball, BUT HE ISN'T AN EX-COACH DOING ANALYSIS, HE'S AN ACTIVE COACH..

It's alarming that he continues to say this shit and more importantly, still relying on mid-range Js and antiquated basketball..adapt to rest of the fucking league..

:tu



There is playing to your old-school personnel, and then there is obstinance. San Antonio's shot selection isn't just the former. The Spurs' expected effective field goal percentage -- based on the location of each shot and nearby defenders -- sits at 49 percent, the lowest mark among any team over the past two seasons, per Second Spectrum.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25407024/10-things-like-including-luka-doncic-moves-nba

[JakeCuenca]

The 2012-2014 spurs started the whole space and pace a d three ball system. Sure it wasnt at the same volume as it is now...but they basically tried to win the LOBT with penetration and three balls.

But now that the league caught up hes throwing shade..

What the hell is wrong with pop

[Clipper Nation]

It's funny how the coach who loves to tell players to "get over themselves" can't accept criticism and has to deflect it to everyone else.

[UZER]

Wait, so Pop knows what you need to win, but continues to sign guys like Forbes, Mills, Gasol, etc?

He’s done and just doesn’t give a shit anymore. He’s not mad about losing. He’s mad he can’t win with his old stubborn ways.

He’s really not wrong, but that’s not the issue here. He’s got so much tenure that he has no dog left in him. That’s why it’s time for him to go. The young coaches in the NBA are hungry and still trying to make a living while making a name for themselves.

Pop is like the Rocky that lost his first fight to Clubber Lang.

[Bynumite]

Poop the chickenshit.

Quitting on the spurs now that he has no superstars and his coaching is getting exposed.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

:lmao

Game has never been more exciting than it is now. Senile old man yelling at clouds as per usual. 28th in 3PA despite being the third most accurate 3pt shooting team. Adapt to the times or retire.

Basketball was never meant to (or created for) be played with surface-to-air missiles

Let's add the 4, 5, 6 pts lines... so only a fraction in the middle of the court is used. Let's just have 1 player on each side.

That would be fun to watch

[SpurOutofTownFan]

The 2012-2014 spurs started the whole space and pace a d three ball system. Sure it wasnt at the same volume as it is now...but they basically tried to win the LOBT with penetration and three balls.

But now that the league caught up hes throwing shade..

What the hell is wrong with pop

What the Spurs did there was to play passing ball - that's all - 3 balls were just a consequence of playing passing ball first

[wolf754life]

bye POP A ZIT

[ElNono]

I mentioned Pop has been mailing it in since 2016 more or less (don't want to look up/bump the thread)... that said, the NBA is turning into beisbol, tbh, sport for the casuals and basically an excuse to hit Whataburger...

[wolf754life]

It's funny how the coach who loves to tell players to "get over themselves" can't accept criticism and has to deflect it to everyone else.

End thread.

End SPURSTALk

End SPURS

End POP

End it all...

#DYNASTY OVER

#PLAYOFFSTREAKDEAD

BIG 3 are no

BIG NOTHING...

[TDMVPDPOY]

couldnt adapt
couldnt adapt to younger players

fail
yet continues to blame everyone but himself and patfo not adapting

remember when we all wanted change, especially the youth movement?...well how did that turn out in the last 2-3years...develoop them then got rid of them for peanuts,cause to busy keeping pos vets on the team happy with loyalty contracts, while up and coming younger players were shown the lowball contract offers

[wolf754life]

KAWHI NEVER LOVED SAN ANTONIO

[ElNono]

KAWHI NEVER LOVED SAN ANTONIO

:lol calm down, my man... it's just basketball...

[Ginobilly]

Ive been watching bball since 95' when i was 7 years old, and to me the golden age of nba basketball was the 90's and 00's. Now adays it just seems seems like a 3 point chuck fest with some so so inside game game here n there, sprinkled with a dunk at times and some mid range shots. There's a lot less physical play, acrobatic layups, ferocious put back dunks, defensive fought close games, etc. People are a lot less rowdy about about it or interested in the games(unless its close) in the buffalo wild wings/hooters bar scene from what I've experienced during the last 5 years.

[RC_Drunkford]

It's funny how the coach who loves to tell players to "get over themselves" can't accept criticism and has to deflect it to everyone else.

this is my main issue with him. He only wants players who listen to him 100%. So this shit show right now is on him more than on anybody else

[duncan2k5]

pop needs to move on...the game has left him behind...he cares much more about the personalities than the game...which is why he will always overpay mills and gasol to keep them around...as long as pop is here, those two WILL retire as spurs...and that's unfortunate because anyone with eyes can see they are absolute ass

[Clipper Nation]

this is my main issue with him. He only wants players who listen to him 100%. So this shit show right now is on him more than on anybody else
It's very Doc Rivers-esque behavior, tbh. Nothing is ever his fault, there's always an excuse, he'll even contradict his own past opinions and count on the media not to notice. Poop went from relying on the three to beat the Heat in 2014, to now whining about how three-pointers aren't "real basketball" now that he has a shitty team built around two fake stars who can't make them.

[TheChillFactor]

I agree with him. This basketball sucks. They neutered the big men and took away all defense.

[weebo]

It's very Doc Rivers-esque behavior, tbh. Nothing is ever his fault, there's always an excuse, he'll even contradict his own past opinions and count on the media not to notice. Poop went from relying on the three to beat the Heat in 2014, to now whining about how three-pointers aren't "real basketball" now that he has a shitty team built around two fake stars who can't make them.

Pop blamed himself for how "discombobulated" the offense has been. Don't know what you assholes want him to say...

And to say that Pop relied on the 3 to win is short sighted--it took more than just jacking up 3's to be the Heatles...

[TDomination]

I agree with him. This basketball sucks. They neutered the big men and took away all defense.
It does make me think. I wonder how 90's big men would have done in todays NBA. Players who play mostly within 15ft from the paint.

Patrick Ewing, David Robinson, Karl Malone, Shaq, Dennis Rodman, Charles Barkley, Dikembe, etc.

Shaq would have to be guarding players at the 3pt line. Rodman would probably get ejected every game. Ewing and Robinson would be known as outdated mid range chuckers. Although Robinsons athleticism would fit quite nice.

Tough hard nosed players that stay in the paint are rare now adays. I would say Draymond Green might fit that category but his go to move is a foot to the crotch. Rodman would have kicked the crap out of him if he tried that on him lol

Now we have what? Rudy Gobert, Karl Anthony Towns, Anthony Davis, Joel Embiid, Porzingis. out of those, i would say Rudy Gobert is like a 90's big man. doesn't take 3's. but not sure how much of a tough player he is. I do know his defense is pretty good though.

Anyways, it is definitely a different game whether we like it or not

[therealtruth]

90's big men would be dominating with all the small ball lineups. Can you imagine if Shaq had 6-7 guys defending him. It would be BBQ chicken. Small ball doesn't work if you're getting outrebounded or crushed on the glass. It's the lack of skilled big man that can operate in the post that's created this opening for small ball to take over.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

Got one more year of Poop at max

[Russ]

See below. :oops

[Russ]

"Now you look at a stat sheet after a game and the first thing you look at is the threes. If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win. You don't even look at the rebounds or the turnovers or how much transition D was involved. You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays."

Case in point, tonight's 131-188 win over Portland -- the Spurs were 11-15 from three.

Arguably, nothing else much changed from their recent losses . . .

[south side spur]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/gregg-popovich-on-the-3-pointer-i-still-hate-it-ill-never-embrace-it/

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/6/8/5790178/gregg-popovich-threes-nba-finals-notebook-heat-vs-spurs

Uhhh he’s been saying this for years now. So no he hasn’t ever embraced it not even in 2014.

[bdictjames]

It's quite evident when you play pick-up ball. The lack of post-play is disturbing. Teams chucking up three straight threes, 5 seconds into the shot clock has not been uncommon. Definitely different than the grind-it-out, playground days in the past.

Almost as if it's gotten soft. Pop has a point.

[DMC]

Kawhi was the sole reason that mediocre roster made the WCF, you absolute tool :lol

They did the best they could hahaha the offseason they had cap they outbid themselves at 12:01am and gave $48M to a Jurassic ostrich. What we're getting a good look at right now is a team that was built to at least be respectable and make the playoffs while Pop rode off into the sunset turn out to be an epic failure. They didn't purposely build this thing to be 12th in the West

:lol you dipshit

They didn't build it for a 20 game season either.

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol you dipshit

They didn't build it for a 20 game season either.
You think this roster is doing something this year, fat hands?

[RobRob]

Got one more year of Poop at max

I agree. He will leave soon..

[DMC]

You think this roster is doing something this year, fat hands?

You think they're going to finish in the exact same position they are right now? :lol

[Trueblood]

Yeah this shit has been in the making for a couple of years now. Some of us were bitching about the roster since except others didn't notice because it was Kawhi who was hiding the stink.

Last year Kawhi played in 9 games and we did significantly better. How do you account for that?

[TDomination]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/gregg-popovich-on-the-3-pointer-i-still-hate-it-ill-never-embrace-it/

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/6/8/5790178/gregg-popovich-threes-nba-finals-notebook-heat-vs-spurs

Uhhh he’s been saying this for years now. So no he hasn’t ever embraced it not even in 2014.

/thread

just pop being pop. nothing new here. but now we suck because of kawhi so everyone is freaking out that he doesn't care anymore or doesn't understand how to evolve.

obviously he hates the way the game is, but doesn't mean he won't use it to his advantage.
his mistake was not sticking to his mantra "defense first" mentality in the offseason. murray isn't enough to keep at as a top 3 defense. get 1 defensive wing and we would be better.

his years are numbered (as they should be) but his comments are nothing new.

[dbestpro]

:lol calm down, my man... it's just basketball...

If it were just basketball, then they would not make so much money.

[gospursgojas]

Team that has the personnel to hit threes vs one that does not. Results in blowout.

It’s the new (lame) NBA. It’s gonna be a long season.

[UZER]

Teams are going to push Pops shit in even more with 3s now after his comments.

[gospursgojas]

Teams are going to push Pops shit in even more with 3s now after his comments.

Yep. The day of or day after Pop made these comments DAntoni came out and busted 22 on on him.

[r0drig0lac]

Team that has the personnel to hit threes vs one that does not. Results in blowout.

It’s the new (lame) NBA. It’s gonna be a long season.

no, team that has players that can attack the rim creating open spaces for the shooters against one that does not, or team that can defend attempts to attack the rim against one that does not

[monty4329]

no, team that has players that can attack the rim creating open spaces for the shooters against one that does not, or team that can defend attempts to attack the rim against one that does not

exactly

[boutons_deux]

IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE THE NBA'S CORNER THREE

https://pictures.ozy.com/pictures/2048x1152/8/6/4/134864_threepointer.jpg

Even four years ago, that wasn’t the case.

No NBA team attempted more than 26 three-pointers per game in 2013–14.

This season, the Houston Rockets attempt 42.2 per game, and

26 of the league’s 30 teams are trying 26-plus per game.

What’s more, Houston averaged more than 50 such shots during the preseason — the NBA’s annual test kitchen.

That onslaught is a clear sign the trend is far from over.

https://www.ozy.com/immodest-proposal/its-time-to-eliminate-the-nbas-corner-three/90968?utm_source=dd&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=12102018&variable=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031

[K...]

IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE THE NBA'S CORNER THREE

https://pictures.ozy.com/pictures/2048x1152/8/6/4/134864_threepointer.jpg

https://www.ozy.com/immodest-proposal/its-time-to-eliminate-the-nbas-corner-three/90968?utm_source=dd&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=12102018&variable=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031

What a great picture and idea

[R. DeMurre]

IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE THE NBA'S CORNER THREE

https://pictures.ozy.com/pictures/2048x1152/8/6/4/134864_threepointer.jpg

Even four years ago, that wasn’t the case.

No NBA team attempted more than 26 three-pointers per game in 2013–14.

This season, the Houston Rockets attempt 42.2 per game, and

26 of the league’s 30 teams are trying 26-plus per game.

What’s more, Houston averaged more than 50 such shots during the preseason — the NBA’s annual test kitchen.

That onslaught is a clear sign the trend is far from over.

https://www.ozy.com/immodest-proposal/its-time-to-eliminate-the-nbas-corner-three/90968?utm_source=dd&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=12102018&variable=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031


This is a really interesting idea, but I don't see the league ever considering it.

[Dingle Barry]

Somewhat similar thing has happened in baseball, where the game has devolved largely into a HR contest. Strikeouts and HRs are way up, stolen bases and small ball in general way down. Less strategy.

The lowest common denominator morons love the long balls.

[coachmac87]

Got Sirius xm dirt cheap on some cyber shopping deal

Been listen to NBA radio with Leglar and some other guy

to paraphrase or Cliffs

"Not Like Pop can waive his magic wand"
"How did SA front Office end up with a dearth of talent"
"where ONE GUY (Dejuante) missing makes you a bottom 2 Defense""I thought the SYSTEM was supposed to make them a great Defensive team always, isn't that what Pop is KNOWN for?'
"Rick(Carlisle) has THE RIGHT GUYS PLAYING AT THE RIGHT POSITIONS AT THE RIGHT TIME"


Ended by saying the SA and Pheonix game will be an offensive explosion because both teams play no D.



Most of the media didn’t think Spurs would make the playoffs..including Vegas.

It’s all about your expectations going into the season...and I do believe losing your starting PG literally a week before the season isn’t easily to deal with...

If any team should be getting ripped it’s HOU who 95% of people had 2nd in West. They’re the team extremely underachieving meanwhile Spurs are hovering around most projected

[lmbebo]

Got Sirius xm dirt cheap on some cyber shopping deal

Been listen to NBA radio with Leglar and some other guy

to paraphrase or Cliffs

"Not Like Pop can waive his magic wand"
"How did SA front Office end up with a dearth of talent"
"where ONE GUY (Dejuante) missing makes you a bottom 2 Defense""I thought the SYSTEM was supposed to make them a great Defensive team always, isn't that what Pop is KNOWN for?'
"Rick(Carlisle) has THE RIGHT GUYS PLAYING AT THE RIGHT POSITIONS AT THE RIGHT TIME"


Ended by saying the SA and Pheonix game will be an offensive explosion because both teams play no D.

Lost a lot of defensive personel. Lost our best defender from last season. Lost our defensive leader on the floor. No one is communicating like they should in a team defense. Its not like Carlisle has been winning 50+ games this past decade consistently .... Don't want to hear about right guys playing in the right positions from him. Still need talent.

[WallyTiger]

:pop::If you made threes and the other team didn't, you win.