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Chris
11-30-2018, 05:28 PM
A few weeks ago, PlayStation 4 users in Chicago were shocked when they turned on their consoles and saw a message from Sony. The message informed users that as of November 14, 2018, they would be required to pay a 9 percent “amusement tax” for PlayStation subscriptions such as PlayStation Now, PlayStation Plus, PlayStation Music, and others.


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The tax is specifically related to streaming services, so the PlayStation games themselves will not be subject to the 9 percent tax. But in today’s subscription-heavy economy, many users purchase these consoles as a medium to stream videos and music rather than using them solely to play games. Not to mention, the tax will still include subscription services that allow Playstation users to connect and play with other users around the globe. So if you own a PlayStation in Chicago, it is unlikely that you will be able to fully avoid this tax.

PlayStation users, however, are not the only victims of this absurd tax.

Chicago’s Amusement Tax

Chicago is one of the most heavily taxed cities in the country. In addition to holding the title for the highest sales tax nationwide, the city also levies additional taxes on bottled water and cell phones.

The amusement tax was actually passed several years ago and included almost all forms of entertainment. Whether residents are looking to spend an evening at the theater, see a concert, cheer on their favorite sports team, go to a nightclub, or even catch a movie, they are on the hook for an additional 5 percent tax.

The city has had to get creative when it comes to extorting money from its residents.

In 2015, the amusement tax was expanded as city officials realized they could bring in additional revenue with the creation of a “cloud tax.” Capitalizing on the popularity of streaming services, the city began instituting a 9 percent tax for using platforms like Netflix, Hulu, Spotify, and others. And thanks to the inclusion of the streaming services, the amusement tax now brings in about $12 million annually. It also applies to anyone whose billing address is within city limits.

The city of Chicago is currently operating on a $400 million deficit. It’s no wonder, then, that the city has had to get creative when it comes to extorting money from its residents. The amusement tax was created as a means of decreasing the deficit and aiding the city in paying for additional expenditures, which essentially means that Chicago dwellers are once again on the hook for the government’s poor decisions.

To make matters worse, Chicago is also a city with a horrible reputation for government corruption, and especially corruption within the local police force. When Democratic Mayor Rahm Emanuel approved the additional tax on streaming services, it was done so with the explicit purpose of helping to fund the $530 million increase given to Chicago’s police force. However, even with the increased funding, Chicago law enforcement has still been unable, or unwilling, to combat the city’s skyrocketing crime rates.

Sony may have just recently announced that it would be enforcing this tax, but Xbox and Nintendo users have already been dealing with it for years. In fact, Sony actually refused to enforce the tax and did not finally capitulate to the city’s wishes until mid-November, when unsuspecting users were greeted with a warning message as soon as they logged on to their PlayStation accounts.

Thanks to a bill passed during the Clinton era, Apple has a legitimate case against the city.

While it is unclear why Sony decided to begin enforcing the tax at this time, it is likely that statements from government representatives scared the company into submission. A spokesman for the city’s Law Department, Bill McCaffrey, recently said,"If a business is not collecting the tax where we believe it applies, the city takes the necessary steps and works with the company to ensure compliance with the law.”

But while some have bent to the whims of the city government, others have continued to challenge the city’s authority to tax anything and everything. Apple, for example, has held strong against the city of Chicago. The tech giant has even gone so far as to take the city to court rather than burden its users with additional fees. And thanks to a bill passed during the Clinton era, Apple has a legitimate case against the city.



Right after the “cloud tax” was instituted, the Liberty Justice Center came forward to challenge the city’s new policy on behalf of the taxpayers in the case known as Labell vs. The City of Chicago.

Unfortunately, the court ruled in favor of the city in May, upholding its authority to levy and collect the cloud tax. Since the amusement tax was passed prior to the inclusion of the cloud tax, the city argued that this was not a new tax and thus was merely a reinterpretation of the existing law.

Senior attorney for the Liberty Justice Center, Jeffrey Schwab, commented on the court’s decision, saying:

We plan to appeal this decision because it has far broader implications than this single attempt to tax online entertainment. Cloud-based entertainment isn’t unique to Chicago, and people take this entertainment in and out of city limits all the time. Therein lies one of the biggest problems with this tax: The city is taxing activity outside its borders because the tax applies regardless of whether a customer actually uses a service in Chicago. If today’s decision is allowed to stand, then local governments across Illinois could tax activity that occurs outside their borders. We will continue to fight for taxpayers against the city’s expansion of its taxing power.

While the Liberty Justice Center waits to appeal this decision, Apple has continued the fight against this unjust tax. Just a few months after the same court ruled in favor of the city, Apple filed a complaint in the Circuit Court of Cook County, Illinois.

The tech company’s complaint touches on four different violations it believes the city is guilty of committing. But the primary complaint rests on Chicago’s violation of the Internet Tax Freedom Act (ITFA).

In 1998, President Bill Clinton signed the ITFA into law, protecting Americans from illegal forms of taxation. Specifically, the bill prohibited “state and local governments from taxing Internet access, or imposing multiple or discriminatory taxes on electronic commerce.”

The bill was supposed to help protect consumers against the possibility of discriminatory taxation on electronic commerce. For example, if internet users are already being taxed for their internet service, they should not be forced to then pay further taxes for using the internet to access streaming sites. By doing so, the cloud tax also discriminates against those who choose to purchase digital movies instead of physical DVDs, which are not subject to the cloud tax.

In addition to violating federal law, Apple is also asserting that the new tax is a violation of the Illinois constitution. As explained by DigitalMusicNews.com’s Daniel Sanchez:

Under Illinois law, all home-rule ordinances must fall within the limits of the unit. So, a "home-rule unit" – in this case, Chicago – "may exercise any power and perform any function pertaining to its government and affairs.

There’s just one problem. Chicago city officials have imposed the Amusement Tax on citizens streaming music when outside the "home-rule unit."

Since the cloud tax is extended to everyone with a Chicago billing address, this means it is still being levied on those who enjoy streaming services outside city limits, making it a violation of state law.

Sanchez continues:

By creating an "extraterritorial effect," the company argues, the city has "subjected Apple to collection requirements even for activities that take place primarily outside" Chicago. In addition, the city has extraterritorially expanded its taxing and regulatory jurisdiction to transaction and business activities outside of Chicago.

Apple’s additional complaints involve violations of the federal commerce clause, as well as violations of the 14th Amendment right to due process. While the outcome of the case is unclear, Apple’s unwillingness to cooperate with the city’s ridiculous amusement tax is a testament to its integrity.

Chicago is proof that there is almost nothing that government entities won’t try to tax. And if you’re a Chicago resident, you might want to think twice before asking Santa for a PlayStation 4 this year, lest you have to deal with the city’s amusement tax.

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Reck
11-30-2018, 05:40 PM
Yeah I'm sure this is all about Ds and Rs, Chris.

The tax hike itself is shit but it has more to do with the company. Sony has been increasingly blatant in the way they do business now with their digital campaign.

Chris
11-30-2018, 05:42 PM
Yeah I'm sure this is all about Ds and Rs, Chris.

The tax hike itself is shit but it has more to do with the company. Sony has been increasingly blatant in the way they do business now with their digital campaign.

Read the article Reck...



The city of Chicago is currently operating on a $400 million deficit. It’s no wonder, then, that the city has had to get creative when it comes to extorting money from its residents. The amusement tax was created as a means of decreasing the deficit and aiding the city in paying for additional expenditures, which essentially means that Chicago dwellers are once again on the hook for the government’s poor decisions.

Chris
11-30-2018, 05:43 PM
Current sales tax within the city limits is 12.75%.

Chucho
11-30-2018, 05:44 PM
Meh, still have nothing on the crooks here in Cali. Imagine bragging about the GDP and massive surplus every time they can and then raising taxes and hitting us with a large gas tax we couldn't vote on and then allowing the fire starters at PG+E to pass their negligence fines onto the customers, meanwhile every year every state politician has been given a raise of 3-5% since the DemoKKKrats took the state back after the retards here voted in The Governator. Oh yeah...and they're still cutting school budgets. But...but det surplus and GDP tho-.

Reck
11-30-2018, 05:45 PM
And I'm talking about Sony in general.

Recently, here in New York they have decided they needed to tax online purchases made through the PS store.

spurraider21
11-30-2018, 05:54 PM
Meh, still have nothing on the crooks here in Cali. Imagine bragging about the GDP and massive surplus every time they can and then raising taxes and hitting us with a large gas tax we couldn't vote on and then allowing the fire starters at PG+E to pass their negligence fines onto the customers, meanwhile every year every state politician has been given a raise of 3-5% since the DemoKKKrats took the state back after the retards here voted in The Governator. Oh yeah...and they're still cutting school budgets. But...but det surplus and GDP tho-.
the gas tax repeal was on the ballot of failed...

Chucho
11-30-2018, 06:05 PM
the gas tax repeal was on the ballot of failed...


That is very, very true and I totally forgot. :tu

rmt
11-30-2018, 06:10 PM
the gas tax repeal was on the ballot of failed...

So the voters are in agreement with increase of the gas tax? Well, if they WANT it ...

Chucho
11-30-2018, 06:18 PM
So the voters are in agreement with increase of the gas tax? Well, if they WANT it ...


Bottom 5 education, tbh...

rmt
11-30-2018, 06:30 PM
Bottom 5 education, tbh...

Even if they are poorly educated, who wants to pay more for gas? What do I know - almost everything they do in CA (politically) makes no sense to me.

Spurtacular
11-30-2018, 09:20 PM
Yeah I'm sure this is all about Ds and Rs, Chris.

The tax hike itself is shit but it has more to do with the company. Sony has been increasingly blatant in the way they do business now with their digital campaign.

:lmao Tranny making excuses.
:lmao "increasingly blatant"

Spurtacular
11-30-2018, 09:25 PM
Funny thing about this is it's the Dems fucking over their base for nickels and dimes....

:rollin

Spurtacular
11-30-2018, 09:52 PM
the gas tax repeal was on the ballot of failed...

Due to the wording and terrible campaign to repeal it, tbh.

ElNono
11-30-2018, 11:30 PM
This is the telephone/cable tax all over again, tbh, was a matter of time until it shifted to legal streaming platforms... the biggest problem with this stuff is that it incentivizes piracy...

I'm ok with taxes on fossil fuels, tbh, as long as government continues to incentivize purchase of electric/hybrid cars. Doesn't make much sense otherwise (outside the money grab).

Spurtacular
12-01-2018, 12:22 AM
This is the telephone/cable tax all over again, tbh, was a matter of time until it shifted to legal streaming platforms... the biggest problem with this stuff is that it incentivizes piracy...

I'm ok with taxes on fossil fuels, tbh, as long as government continues to incentivize purchase of electric/hybrid cars. Doesn't make much sense otherwise (outside the money grab).

All taxes are money grabs. Some are just masked better.

ElNono
12-01-2018, 01:23 AM
All taxes are money grabs. Some are just masked better.

They're not. They have a very specific purpose in economics. While mainly as a means to paying for government expenditures, they also serve the purposes of economic stability and wealth redistribution (which you need in any healthy economy).

How much and who is taxed (ie: regressive vs progressive) is certainly debatable.

Spurtacular
12-01-2018, 03:10 AM
They're not. They have a very specific purpose in economics. While mainly as a means to paying for government expenditures, they also serve the purposes of economic stability and wealth redistribution (which you need in any healthy economy).

How much and who is taxed (ie: regressive vs progressive) is certainly debatable.

I'm not arguing that taxes don't have a purpose. Even the necessary ones are bloated, tbh. It's always going to be a money grab.

ElNono
12-01-2018, 05:53 PM
I'm not arguing that taxes don't have a purpose. Even the necessary ones are bloated, tbh. It's always going to be a money grab.

I consider a money grab something that's not a fundamental part of the economy. I can certainly agree or not with you that certain taxes are bloated, and that's certainly the debatable part, but there's no utopia where there's no taxation and a healthy economy.

Reck
12-01-2018, 06:32 PM
Oh look, derp tries to get into a thread to talk about something he has no clue about then proceeds to get shat on. Per par, derp darp.

koriwhat
12-01-2018, 07:08 PM
Oh look, derp tries to get into a thread to talk about something he has no clue about then proceeds to get shat on. Per par, derp darp.

what do you contribute though? not a god damn thing from what i am seeing... fuck out of here negative ned.

koriwhat
12-01-2018, 07:09 PM
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Rahm Emanuel
Term length 4 years; no term limits

that dude is such a cocksucker. those in chicago are fucking retards to have elected this pos to office over and over again.

JakeCuenca
12-01-2018, 07:22 PM
Taxes are haram. All it does is burden the citizens. Shame that every country implements this money stealing

Reck
12-01-2018, 07:49 PM
that dude is such a cocksucker.

Takes one to know one, amirite rager?

koriwhat
12-01-2018, 07:57 PM
Takes one to know one, amirite rager?

not at all. you're a tranny and i am not. i can't empathize with your "struggle". sorry negative ned!

koriwhat
12-01-2018, 07:59 PM
Taxes are haram. All it does is burden the citizens. Shame that every country implements this money stealing

fuck out of here with that "haram" bs... taxes suck but islam sucks worse!

ElNono
12-01-2018, 08:02 PM
Taxes are haram. All it does is burden the citizens. Shame that every country implements this money stealing

Zakat, one of the pillars of Islam, is a form of taxation.

Spurtacular
12-01-2018, 08:15 PM
I consider a money grab something that's not a fundamental part of the economy. I can certainly agree or not with you that certain taxes are bloated, and that's certainly the debatable part, but there's no utopia where there's no taxation and a healthy economy.

The economy can and did fundamentally operate without income taxes. Theoretically, there is a nominal floor in which taxes are necessary. Above that, it can be argued that certain levels of taxes increase quality of life. Generally speaking, tax levels are bloated though. This tax grab was just especially blatant.

ElNono
12-01-2018, 08:25 PM
The economy can and did fundamentally operate without income taxes. Theoretically, there is a nominal floor in which taxes are necessary. Above that, it can be argued that certain levels of taxes increase quality of life. Generally speaking, tax levels are bloated though. This tax grab was just especially blatant.

You said "All taxes are money grabs", that's the only part I took exception with (under the premise that money grabs are not fundamental part of any economic system).

Sure, who gets taxed and how much is certainly up for discussion.

Spurtacular
12-01-2018, 08:30 PM
You said "All taxes are money grabs", that's the only part I took exception with (under the premise that money grabs are not fundamental part of any economic system).

Sure, who gets taxed and how much is certainly up for discussion.

They are all money grabs in that they grab above what is necessary, imo.

JakeCuenca
12-01-2018, 09:31 PM
Zakat, one of the pillars of Islam, is a form of taxation.

No its not. Zakat is only applicable to the able and its 2 percent. Foreign zakat is basically jizya also 2 percent.

Millennial_Messiah
12-01-2018, 09:37 PM
Easy way out of it... change your billing address to Joliet or some shit.

Millennial_Messiah
12-01-2018, 09:38 PM
No its not. Zakat is only applicable to the able and its 2 percent. Foreign zakat is basically jizya also 2 percent.

I heard ISIS charged about a 50% "jizya" though.

Reck
12-01-2018, 10:10 PM
Easy way out of it... change your billing address to Joliet or some shit.

That's ill advice. Unless you simply want to go to prison when caught.

Spurtacular
12-01-2018, 10:40 PM
That's ill advice. Unless you simply want to go to prison when caught.

:lmao Tranny reck thinks people will be going to jail for evading the video game tax.

ElNono
12-02-2018, 02:54 AM
No its not. Zakat is only applicable to the able and its 2 percent. Foreign zakat is basically jizya also 2 percent.

"Only 2% and only the able" is still a tax.

Millennial_Messiah
12-02-2018, 06:30 AM
That's ill advice. Unless you simply want to go to prison when caught.

:lmao you won't go to prison for that. Too low value, too many bigger fish to fry

Blake
12-02-2018, 09:41 AM
what do you contribute though? not a god damn thing from what i am seeing... fuck out of here negative ned.

Lol you calling out anyone for being a non contributing negative ned

Reck
12-02-2018, 11:59 AM
:lmao you won't go to prison for that. Too low value, too many bigger fish to fry

Try it and tell us about it.

:lol Thinking they wont go after you if you commit tax fraud.

Not that what your other post says has any real usable value. Your account/address is linked to your credit card. Your purchases wouldn't go through if you just change your state or address. So I guess Sony is doing you a solid by making you not commit a crime by trying to commit tax evasion.

koriwhat
12-02-2018, 01:36 PM
Lol you calling out anyone for being a non contributing negative ned

what i don't contribute just because you only see me having bitch fits with you fucks? if yall weren't around stinking this place up i wouldn't have half the post count i have. trust me, it's not all that fun going back and forth with you losers(not the whole board but you and a few others).

Millennial_Messiah
12-02-2018, 03:23 PM
Try it and tell us about it.

:lol Thinking they wont go after you if you commit tax fraud.

Not that what your other post says has any real usable value. Your account/address is linked to your credit card. Your purchases wouldn't go through if you just change your state or address. So I guess Sony is doing you a solid by making you not commit a crime by trying to commit tax evasion.

Only federal taxes... and even then, such a puny amount just isn't a big deal... but city sales tax on the internet might as well be like tips.

Blake
12-02-2018, 08:03 PM
what i don't contribute just because you only see me having bitch fits with you fucks? if yall weren't around stinking this place up i wouldn't have half the post count i have. trust me, it's not all that fun going back and forth with you losers(not the whole board but you and a few others).

Excellent thread contribution, ned

Spurtacular
12-02-2018, 08:10 PM
Try it and tell us about it.

:lol Thinking they wont go after you if you commit tax fraud.

Not that what your other post says has any real usable value. Your account/address is linked to your credit card. Your purchases wouldn't go through if you just change your state or address. So I guess Sony is doing you a solid by making you not commit a crime by trying to commit tax evasion.

:lmao

Are you really this dumb, tranny?

koriwhat
12-02-2018, 09:01 PM
Excellent thread contribution, ned

don't worry about me you pussy.

Blake
12-03-2018, 12:49 AM
don't worry about me you pussy.

K, druggy

AaronY
12-03-2018, 07:57 AM
That's ill advice. Unless you simply want to go to prison when caught.
lol no one is going to prison dude be serious here

Im not a videogamer but isnt the monthly fee like $10 or something? so its 90 cents a month lol what a travesty.

Reck
12-03-2018, 11:11 AM
lol no one is going to prison dude be serious here

Im not a videogamer but isnt the monthly fee like $10 or something? so its 90 cents a month lol what a travesty.

You are paying the same taxes you would be as if you were buying it at a retail store. Game costs 59.99 you're gonna be paying upwards to 5 bucks depending on your state tax.

lol cents.

AaronY
12-03-2018, 11:12 AM
You are paying the same taxes you would be as if you were buying it at a retail store. Game costs 59.99 you're gonna be paying upwards to 5 bucks depending on your state tax.

lol cents.
lol prison

Reck
12-03-2018, 11:18 AM
lol prison

lol tax evasion good now.

Chucho
12-03-2018, 12:25 PM
lol tax evasion good now.

Basically, you'd have to rack up a shit load of that tax for it to even remotely land on their radar. As stupid as MM is, the idea, while too much hassle for most people who can foot a measly 10 cents on the dollar, wouldn't register on anyone's radar.

AaronY
12-03-2018, 01:24 PM
lol tax evasion good now.
Lol prison

Reck
12-03-2018, 01:46 PM
Lol prison

:lol goalpost moving
:lol I'm not a videogamer but..
:lol tax ivasion good now
:lol losing an argument to boots
:lol AaronY

AaronY
12-03-2018, 05:21 PM
:lol goalpost moving
:lol I'm not a videogamer but..
:lol tax ivasion good now
:lol losing an argument to boots
:lol AaronY
Will I be getting prison for this??l?

spurraider21
12-03-2018, 05:31 PM
lol prison


lol tax evasion good now.


:lol goalpost moving
indeed you moved the goalpost from prison to good/bad

spurraider21
12-03-2018, 05:34 PM
tbh of all items, entertainment/luxury products should be the least controversial when it comes to sales tax

AaronY
12-03-2018, 05:37 PM
tbh of all items, entertainment/luxury products should be the least controversial when it comes to sales tax
Lock em up!

Millennial_Messiah
12-03-2018, 07:55 PM
You are paying the same taxes you would be as if you were buying it at a retail store. Game costs 59.99 you're gonna be paying upwards to 5 bucks depending on your state tax.

lol cents.

The internet should NOT be taxed. Net neutrality... free internet. That is the way of good. People should be able to choose who they want to support financially without giving up the entertainment which is their livelihood and source of happiness. Hence, why I choose to watch my NFL streams for free on Reddit and not put any of my hard-earned money into the filthy hand of the greedy, rich, corrupt, snooty Nazi Goodell.

Millennial_Messiah
12-03-2018, 07:58 PM
Basically, you'd have to rack up a shit load of that tax for it to even remotely land on their radar. As stupid as MM is, the idea, while too much hassle for most people who can foot a measly 10 cents on the dollar, wouldn't register on anyone's radar.

It's not about "footing 10 cents on the dollar". It's about not wishing to waste more of my own precious money that I shouldn't have to spend. I don't care if I was a millionaire, I don't cave into extortionists because it's against my moral compass and lifelong hatred of government and taxation.

Blake
12-03-2018, 09:12 PM
The internet should NOT be taxed. Net neutrality... free internet. That is the way of good. People should be able to choose who they want to support financially without giving up the entertainment which is their livelihood and source of happiness. Hence, why I choose to watch my NFL streams for free on Reddit and not put any of my hard-earned money into the filthy hand of the greedy, rich, corrupt, snooty Nazi Goodell.

Why stop at the internet with that philosophy

Spurtacular
12-03-2018, 09:31 PM
tbh of all items, entertainment/luxury products should be the least controversial when it comes to sales tax

Agreed. The rigged system already has both parents working and giving the lion's share of their money to the man. Let their fucking kids have a childhood at least FFS.

:lmao Of course you didn't mean it that way; you were just right without being right.

koriwhat
12-05-2018, 03:44 PM
K, druggy

:cry :cry :cry cuck

Millennial_Messiah
12-06-2018, 01:38 AM
Agreed. The rigged system already has both parents working and giving the lion's share of their money to the man. Let their fucking kids have a childhood at least FFS.

:lmao Of course you didn't mean it that way; you were just right without being right.

Right. If anything, I'd support a high tax on fast food and restaurant food so maybe we don't have to be the most obese nation on the globe.

koriwhat
12-06-2018, 01:44 AM
Right. If anything, I'd support a high tax on fast food and restaurant food so maybe we don't have to be the most obese nation on the globe.

:tu

Millennial_Messiah
12-06-2018, 01:48 AM
:tu

&, maybe women will actually be forced to learn to, you know, cook *gasp* like they are supposed to... I'm tired of my generation of females who can't cook, all they can do is "bake"... laaaaaaaaame

koriwhat
12-06-2018, 01:50 AM
&, maybe women will actually be forced to learn to, you know, cook *gasp* like they are supposed to... I'm tired of my generation of females who can't cook, all they can do is "bake"... laaaaaaaaame

either way it doesn't matter to me because i eat out every night at restaurants. bit pricey but buying groceries is a waste because i end up never eating everything i buy so restaurants it is.

Millennial_Messiah
12-06-2018, 01:51 AM
either way it doesn't matter to me because i eat out every night at restaurants. bit pricey but buying groceries is a waste because i end up never eating everything i buy so restaurants it is.

no wife?? wtf

Isitjustme?
12-06-2018, 08:50 AM
&, maybe women will actually be forced to learn to, you know, cook *gasp* like they are supposed to... I'm tired of my generation of females who can't cook, all they can do is "bake"... laaaaaaaaame

God I hate women too bro

You take your red pills this morning? I took a double dose

Spurtacular
12-06-2018, 02:30 PM
Right. If anything, I'd support a high tax on fast food and restaurant food so maybe we don't have to be the most obese nation on the globe.

Tax revenues would decrease.

spurraider21
12-06-2018, 02:35 PM
God I hate women too bro

You take your red pills this morning? I took a double dose
:lmao

spurraider21
12-06-2018, 02:36 PM
either way it doesn't matter to me because i eat out every night at restaurants. bit pricey but buying groceries is a waste because i end up never eating everything i buy so restaurants it is.
man that seems incredibly pricey. how much does ur average dinner end of costing?

Splits
12-06-2018, 02:39 PM
man that seems incredibly pricey. how much does ur average dinner end of costing?

about a 3cm shoulder butterfly

Will Hunting
12-06-2018, 02:57 PM
Right. If anything, I'd support a high tax on fast food and restaurant food so maybe we don't have to be the most obese nation on the globe.
I think taxing fast food/restaurant food in general is a slippery slope since people need to eat food to survive (I do however think it’s stupid people can use their EBT card to buy Jack in the Box).

I would OTOH support a tax on soda and other sugary drinks that have no nutritional value. There’s nothing in soda people need to survive that water doesn’t have. People drinking soda in the quantities it was consumed 40 years ago wasn’t that much of a problem but the 64 ounce megagulps you can now buy for 79 cents are a big cause of the uptick in type 2 beetus.

spurraider21
12-06-2018, 03:08 PM
I think taxing fast food/restaurant food in general is a slippery slope since people need to eat food to survive (I do however think it’s stupid people can use their EBT card to buy Jack in the Box).

I would OTOH support a tax on soda and other sugary drinks that have no nutritional value. There’s nothing in soda people need to survive that water doesn’t have. People drinking soda in the quantities it was consumed 40 years ago wasn’t that much of a problem but the 64 ounce megagulps you can now buy for 79 cents are a big cause of the uptick in type 2 beetus.
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koriwhat
12-06-2018, 05:55 PM
man that seems incredibly pricey. how much does ur average dinner end of costing?

i don't eat much to begin with and i don't always dine at $20/plate restaurants. closest thing to fast food for me is chipotle/las palapas. i'm very limited in what i eat too because of my gluten allergy. wish i was a hipster and my gluten allergy was really just trendy and not an allergy at all but it is and it sucks when i eat anything with wheat in it.

koriwhat
12-06-2018, 06:16 PM
I think taxing fast food/restaurant food in general is a slippery slope since people need to eat food to survive (I do however think it’s stupid people can use their EBT card to buy Jack in the Box).

I would OTOH support a tax on soda and other sugary drinks that have no nutritional value. There’s nothing in soda people need to survive that water doesn’t have. People drinking soda in the quantities it was consumed 40 years ago wasn’t that much of a problem but the 64 ounce megagulps you can now buy for 79 cents are a big cause of the uptick in type 2 beetus.

:tu


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2b/62/ec/2b62ecdd5345ce1c2c856aa242e86070.png

:lmao

Millennial_Messiah
12-07-2018, 07:14 AM
I think taxing fast food/restaurant food in general is a slippery slope since people need to eat food to survive (I do however think it’s stupid people can use their EBT card to buy Jack in the Box).

I would OTOH support a tax on soda and other sugary drinks that have no nutritional value. There’s nothing in soda people need to survive that water doesn’t have. People drinking soda in the quantities it was consumed 40 years ago wasn’t that much of a problem but the 64 ounce megagulps you can now buy for 79 cents are a big cause of the uptick in type 2 beetus.

Not EVERY drink... thinks like powdered Koolaid, even Gatorade and stuff shouldn't be taxed... most people need flavor to drink water, including me, and they don't want to make the whole population dehydrated because plain water gags most of us.

Will Hunting
12-07-2018, 07:22 AM
Not EVERY drink... thinks like powdered Koolaid, even Gatorade and stuff shouldn't be taxed... most people need flavor to drink water, including me, and they don't want to make the whole population dehydrated because plain water gags most of us.
Yes they do, powdered koolaid has no nutritional value. If you can’t just drink normal water the way people did for thousands of years that’s your problem.

Millennial_Messiah
12-07-2018, 02:23 PM
Yes they do, powdered koolaid has no nutritional value. If you can’t just drink normal water the way people did for thousands of years that’s your problem.

Bottled water is the world's #1 scam. Don't want to deepen their already incredibly rich-ass pockets.


There's gotta be some flavor, or I'm gonna be dehydrated... same goes for 9/10 of the nation.

rmt
12-07-2018, 04:54 PM
Yes they do, powdered koolaid has no nutritional value. If you can’t just drink normal water the way people did for thousands of years that’s your problem.

What's wrong with some powdered DIET koolaid/flavor for the rest of the population? Even if it doesn't have nutritional value, it's not wise to deprive people of small pleasures.

Will Hunting
12-07-2018, 05:09 PM
What's wrong with some powdered DIET koolaid/flavor for the rest of the population? Even if it doesn't have nutritional value, it's not wise to deprive people of small pleasures.
No one is getting deprived, it would just be getting taxed.

rmt
12-07-2018, 05:54 PM
No one is getting deprived, it would just be getting taxed.

So you would tax white sugar and white flour, and who would decide what's nutritious? You? Even I would be afraid of that :-)