The US needs to pay attention to what is going on in France...

[CosmicCowboy]

That new gas tax to "fight" climate change appeared to be the last straw for the ordinary french people. The total disconnect between the urban elite and the ordinary working class couldn't be illustrated better. Macron is either going to have to back down or use the police/military to smash the civil dissent. Either way he loses.

[boutons_deux]

The French tradition is that the govt will back down

In les evenements of May '68, De Gaulle actually backed down right over the Rhine to Germany, and the mass uprising forced major changes.

What's somewhat different from the usual French mass demonstrations is that this one didn't wait until good weather in the spring.

[Spurminator]

So, wait... We need to listen to rioters now?

Riots are happening, so the course of action we should take is to consider policies that may have lead to those riots?

I mean, I kind of agree, it's just sort of a reversal of the standard approach.

[AaronY]

Rioting good now

[Spurminator]

When White People Riot and Loot:

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[boutons_deux]

reversal of the standard approach.

... which is?

BLM/Kaep have a point, OWS has/had a point, but police slaughter of blacks continues, and the oligarchy continues impoverishing the non-oligarchy. Go govt policies changed, or were even discussed.

[Spurminator]

... which is?

BLM/Kaep have a point, OWS has/had a point, but police slaughter of blacks continues, and the oligarchy continues impoverishing the non-oligarchy. Go govt policies changed, or were even discussed.

Your reading comprehension deficiency continues to amaze.

[boutons_deux]

the French DISSENTERS are DISSENTING govt policy that makes them poorer, not richer, not even standing still

And they know damn well after becoming poorer, their lives will not be otherwise better due to govt use of their increased fuel costs.

[AaronY]

Quick poll: boo's posts about the "oligarchy" vs Chris posts about "deep state" which are more retarded/insufferable?

[Winehole23]

he actually has reasonable posts in this thread, why pick on him when he's behaving himself?

[boutons_deux]

Your reading comprehension deficiency continues to amaze.

"in your own words", what is the "standard approach"?

[Spurminator]

"in your own words", what is the "standard approach"?

The standard approach to reacting to riots is to dismiss even the non-violent protests they are related to and to do nothing about the concerns raised.

Conservative media wasn't saying, "Law Enforcement in America needs to look at what's happening in Ferguson" when people were looting 7-Elevens, they were calling BLM a terrorist group.

Basically just like you posted, somehow as a disagreement to the point I was making.

[Pavlov]

We could raise our gas tax right now and no one would give a shit.

but lol rural French lives matter

[Spurminator]

Imagine this happening at a BLM march.

Not even Antifa has stolen assault rifles from the cops. But because this is supposedly an anti-tax protest, "Hmm, they raise some good points."

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[Chucho]

Quick poll: boo's posts about the "oligarchy" vs Chris posts about "deep state" which are more retarded/insufferable?


Chris is dumb, but I think some of his posts are cheap troll attempts and he gets the reaction he wants. Boots is flat out batshit crazy.

[Chucho]

Imagine this happening at a BLM march.

Not even Antifa has stolen assault rifles from the cops. But because this is supposedly an anti-tax protest, "Hmm, they raise some good points."

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In b4 "whataboutism".

[boutons_deux]

We could raise our gas tax right now and no one would give a shit.

but lol rural French lives matter

French gas is $7 / gal, already punitive for the poor, not $2 like now in San Antonio

[FrostKing]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-stIUzXoAETEzR.png

[FrostKing]

The standard approach to reacting to riots is to dismiss even the non-violent protests they are related to and to do nothing about the concerns raised.

Conservative media wasn't saying, "Law Enforcement in America needs to look at what's happening in Ferguson" when people were looting 7-Elevens, they were calling BLM a terrorist group.

Basically just like you posted, somehow as a disagreement to the point I was making.
Ferguson was doomed once tape was released of Michael Brown inside the convenience store. The average American no longer wanted to see or hear about him but the black community and (lol) the democratic party ventured on with him as their martyr

[DMC]

Joo stoopeed amerikin homosexuelles

[hater]

Funny when these protests and riots started in Syria, US already was calling for regime change :lmao

Waiting for US to start calling Macron an animal :lol

[Brazil]

Murican Red neck thinking french are in the street because of a tax to fight climate change...

what a fucking idiot :lmao

[Isitjustme?]

Murican Red neck thinking french are in the street because of a tax to fight climate change...

what a fucking idiot :lmao

Conservative Americans like Cosmic Cowboy conveniently caring about France now because they think it fits their agenda :lmao

[Will Hunting]

Murican Red neck thinking french are in the street because of a tax to fight climate change...

what a fucking idiot :lmao
Just curious, as someone who lives in France, can you explain what the cause of the riots is? It’s honestly not clear to me.

[hater]

Just curious, as someone who lives in France, can you explain what the cause of the riots is? It’s honestly not clear to me.

1 word

M:lolcr:loln

Hes an embarrasment and Frenchies are fed up of his shittyness

Cant say I didnt Call dat shit :tu

[Isitjustme?]

Just curious, as someone who lives in France, can you explain what the cause of the riots is? It’s honestly not clear to me.

Cosmic Cowboy been watching Fox News about it why dont you ask him?

He started a thread even!

[Will Hunting]

1 word

M:lolcr:loln

Hes an embarrasment and Frenchies are fed up of his shittyness

Cant say I didnt Call dat shit :tu
Yeah that much is clear. What’s not clear (to me at least) is what they’re fed up about. It doesn’t make sense to me that a bunch of urban protestors in Paris who barely drive are this pissed about a green tax and nothing else.

[CosmicCowboy]

Murican Red neck thinking french are in the street because of a tax to fight climate change...

what a fucking idiot :lmao

Funny, that's what it says on all the news here in the US. Why don't you explain it?

[hater]

Check this link

Although I hate guardian they sometimes have decent articles

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/24/paris-fuel-tax-protest-macron-france-poverty

IMO its basically:

Our salaries are low or nonexistent and taxes sky high. This extra tax probably was the last drop that overflowed the cup. That and Macrons smugness and stupidity created the perfect storm.

[CosmicCowboy]

Paris (CNN)French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe has canceled a trip to the COP24 global climate conference in Poland because of the riots in France, the Matignon Palace told CNN.

The decision comes as the French government said it was considering "all options" to control protests against rising fuel prices that have turned violent in Paris over the last three weeks, a spokesman said Sunday.
Speaking on France's Europe 1 radio, spokesman Benjamin Griveaux said the government is thinking about steps to prevent "serious outbursts of violence," including introducing a state of emergency.
More than 400 people were arrested and 133 injured in Paris on Saturday in clashes between police and protesters with the "gilets jaune" or "yellow vest" movement, who are protesting rising gas prices and taxes on polluting forms of transport.
An estimated 36,000 people demonstrated in Saturday's protests across the country, marking the third consecutive week of such demonstrations, according to the French Interior Ministry. About 53,000 participated last week and about 113,000 the week before.
Griveaux said that between 1,000 and 1,500 people joined Saturday's demonstrations "only to fight with the police, to break and loot." He added that those protesters "have nothing to do with the yellow vests."
Footage shared by French police on Saturday showed a few demonstrators striking a police vehicle and smashing its windshield. Other videos captured burning cars and police firing tear gas to disperse protesters.

[Will Hunting]

Brazil, from what I’m reading, these protests started out as protests from rural voters who were pissed about the green tax but they’ve turned into much bigger protests about things like minimum wage being too low and Macron repealing the wealth tax while doing nothing to help the working class. How accurate is that?

[Splits]

lol CC spouting Daily Caller and Fox nonsense. What a coincidence.

Meanwhile:


OECD Gas Excise Tax Rates (Per Gallon), 2013


Country
Tax Per Gallon


Australia
$1.40


Austria
$2.46


Belgium
$3.10


Canada
$1.25


Chile
$1.93


Czech Republic
$2.50


Denmark
$2.95


Estonia
$2.12


Finland
$3.26


France
$3.07


Germany
$3.29


Greece
$3.37


Hungary
$2.08


Iceland
$1.97


Ireland
$2.95


Israel
$4.20


Italy
$3.67


Japan
$2.16


Korea
$2.69


Luxembourg
$2.31


Mexico
$0.00


Netherlands
$3.79


New Zealand
$2.01


Norway
$3.67


Poland
$2.01


Portugal
$2.95


Slovakia
$2.57


Slovenia
$2.76


Spain
$2.35


Sweden
$3.10


Switzerland
$2.99


Turkey
$4.32


United Kingdom
$3.44


United States
$0.53


Average OECD
$2.62




Wake me up when we triple our gas tax and are in the range of most modern countries.

[CosmicCowboy]

lol CC spouting Daily Caller and Fox nonsense. What a coincidence.

I direct quoted CNN fuckhead.

[hater]

I direct quoted CNN fuckhead.

Even worse :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

You losers are really fucking stupid.

[hater]

You losers are really fucking stupid.

Says the idiot that thinks CNN and FOX are legit news sources :lmao

[AaronY]

You losers are really fucking stupid.
Tell us more about how rioting is good now

[CosmicCowboy]

Tell us more about how rioting is good now

show me where I said that, idiot.

[boutons_deux]

"United States
$0.53"


... is why USA's bridges, roads etc are badly in need of maintenance or replacement.

Oligarchy has suckered people into believing "low taxes and hate/destroy all govt" is some kind of solution (for the non-oligarchy). Just another destructive myth Americans swallow.

[AaronY]

"It's like the Boston Tea Party except they're throwing climate change into the Mediterranean Sea!"

[hater]

"It's like the Boston Tea Party except they're throwing climate change into the Mediterranean Sea!"

This has little to do with climate change and more about bread and butter.

They attacked Louis Vitton and Dolce Gabanna stores for a reason. They are fed up with elite ignoring and abusing them tbqh

Btw 75% french ppl support the protesters

Macron has 25% approval rating and dropping fast :lmao

[Brazil]

Funny, that's what it says on all the news here in the US. Why don't you explain it?

You mean Fox News ? :lmao

[Brazil]

Brazil (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14466), from what I’m reading, these protests started out as protests from rural voters who were pissed about the green tax but they’ve turned into much bigger protests about things like minimum wage being too low and Macron repealing the wealth tax while doing nothing to help the working class. How accurate is that?

It is not really about green tax.. for months now a part of French are fed up with macron reforms.. macron took unpopular measures to decrease budget deficit: state employees cut, increase of contributions for health systems, reform of universities and schools, eradication of a stupid tax paid by the 1% of the population...

people were increasingly upset and government took a measure to increase diesel (after the whole dieselgate story tha btw has nothing to do with climate change but particles), the problem is that measure impacts mostly low income people as they used to buy diesel (cheaper on the long run); the yellow jersey movement was born and has been since politized. They brought that to Paris where a minority of dumbasses take advantage of that relatively peaceful movement to riot and destroy..

thats basically what happened. Not the first time nor the last. France is near “impossible” to reform, country has been built through revolutions.. that’s the way it is :lol

[ElNono]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-stIUzXoAETEzR.png

:lol Le Pen is a socialist now, asked for electricity prices to be cut, and pensions and salary raises.

[hater]

:lol Le Pen is a socialist now, asked for electricity prices to be cut, and pensions and salary raises.

She is probably wanting to unite with social parties to gain power. Same thing that happened in Italy. And now their government is uber powerful with this union.

This is probably what elite globalists are terrified about. The social left uniting with right nationalist/libertarian parties.

It would be the end of them. That is probably why mainstream media in US and UK are fighting tooth and nail against any alliance between socialists and nationalists/libertarians

[hater]

The media tells you socialists and nationalists canot coexist. But thats bullshit

[Pavlov]

National socialism?

Sounds like a great idea!

[ElNono]

The media tells you socialists and nationalists canot coexist. But thats bullshit

Well, they can't. They might be able to vote together in a couple issues out of spite of the current government, but there's no way those two can make a coalition together.

Already tried and failed in Spain.

[ElNono]

Le Pen is the typical political opportunist, tbh... Populism + socialism has been a solid vote-getter in recent times, see: Trump, Donald.

[hater]

Well, they can't. They might be able to vote together in a couple issues out of spite of the current government, but there's no way those two can make a coalition together.

Already tried and failed in Spain.

Its working in Italy

Yes they can coexist and even work together

Elite globalists, mainstream demorats and repugs are fucked

[DarrinS]

Imagine being taxed over 3 dollars per gallon. F that shite. There would be riots here, too.

[hater]

Imagine being taxed over 3 dollars per gallon. F that shite. There would be riots here, too.

And to add insult to injury he gave tax breaks to corporations and wealthiest 10%

Sonofabitch M:lolcr:loln

Is a stupid motherfucker

Off with his head Mon Freres

[JakeCuenca]

Wow Americans are truly the idiots of the world. Fox news retards :lmao

The green tax is nothing a small catalyst. A riot was already in the making pre gree tax. Macron is just way out of touch and his moves have really affected the layman in terms of finances.

Dude should probably stop looking for granny pussy on the side and actually start listening. Heard some talk dude likes to fuck 60+ year olds in addition to his 60+ year old wife.

Why did france even elect a president with that bad of a taste in women?

[ElNono]

Its working in Italy

Yes they can coexist and even work together

Elite globalists, mainstream demorats and repugs are fucked

That's because the far right went with a populist-socialist message against the oligarchy, which resonates on the far left too.

Heck, there's nothing conservative with that bloated budget the EU send them to revise.

Anti-globalism resonates well on both sides of the spectrum these days, but when you get down to policy, the visions of what to do are far different.

[DMC]

There's a difference between protesters who are united against the government vs protesters who are partisan and mostly paid and there for photo ops.

Antifa = paid protesters plus assorted goobers and faggots.

White man march (whatever the fuck it's called) is a group of idiots not against anything except whatever gets them lulz for the moment.

BLM = paid protesters and assorted opportunists looking for a free case of Heineken.

National riot =/= interest group protests

[Winehole23]

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[Spurtacular]

Were you one of those guys who accepted climate change as a fact until Al Gore got all uppity and smug about it, and now you have your doubts?

:lol That you think that's generally how it went.

[SnakeBoy]

National socialism?

Sounds like a great idea!

Europe already tried a National Socialist Party, didn't work out too well.

[TDMVPDPOY]

australias tax on oil/petrol is like this... fuel excise tax on top of sale price, then they add another fkn gst tax 10% on that amount, double taxing...fkn monkeys

dont get me started with tobacco tax, costs like 35bucks for a packet of 30 ciggies... half of it is tax

[AaronY]

Europe already tried a National Socialist Party, didn't work out too well.
It was cuz of the socialism..the Nazis were leftwing you know..just like todays democrats/liberals with their multiculturalism, open borders, sumpin sumpin The Big Lie..

[boutons_deux]

1069333678290075648

no marches and pussy hats for the French anarchists. They know how to riot :lol

[boutons_deux]

Comme prévue:

Macron set for tax U-turn to quell 'yellow vest' protests

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests/french-government-preparing-to-suspend-fuel-tax-increases-source-idUSKBN1O30MX

[hater]

australias tax on oil/petrol is like this... fuel excise tax on top of sale price, then they add another fkn gst tax 10% on that amount, double taxing...fkn monkeys

dont get me started with tobacco tax, costs like 35bucks for a packet of 30 ciggies... half of it is tax

Shithole country tbqh

[Brazil]

Wow Americans are truly the idiots of the world. Fox news retards :lmao

The green tax is nothing a small catalyst. A riot was already in the making pre gree tax. Macron is just way out of touch and his moves have really affected the layman in terms of finances.

Dude should probably stop looking for granny pussy on the side and actually start listening. Heard some talk dude likes to fuck 60+ year olds in addition to his 60+ year old wife.

Why did france even elect a president with that bad of a taste in women?

nailed it bro

:lol fox news
:lol trumpards... :cry look french also hate climate change fighting :cry
:lol Macron thinking being arrogant will get him out of trouble
:lol Lepen / Melenchon

[hater]

:lmao M:lolc:loln already backtracking on his tax :lol

If he does he will officially become a lame duck president :lol

Niga got obliterated :tu

[Brazil]

:lmao M:lolc:loln already backtracking on his tax :lol

If he does he will officially become a lame duck president :lol

Niga got obliterated :tu

:lol hater

Macron would be a dumb fuck to not back down

[hater]

:lol hater

Macron would be a dumb fuck to not back down

:lol Bolsonazil

M:lolcr:loln was not backing down until his approval dropped to 25% and people started dying on the streets

:lmao possibly worst president in french history :lmao

[Pavlov]

Europe already tried a National Socialist Party, didn't work out too well.Need det blue font?

[Brazil]

:lol Bolsonazil

M:lolcr:loln was not backing down until his approval dropped to 25% and people started dying on the streets

:lmao possibly worst president in french history :lmao

:lol still better than Trump

[DMX7]

Shithole country tbqh

Actually, Australia is a pretty great country. The taxes may suck but a lot of countries tax the crap out of people.

[Chucho]

Actually, Australia is a pretty great country. The taxes may suck but a lot of countries tax the crap out of people.


Seriously.When the chances of dying from the wildlife is greater than from another citizen's hand, that's a pretty up and up place. The only thing they should be ashamed of is their love of vegimite.

[hater]

Actually, Australia is a pretty great country. The taxes may suck but a lot of countries tax the crap out of people.

Been there

Its ok but I would not live there due to taxes and cost of living in cities. The benefits dont outweigh the cost imo. Unless you are a millionaire

:lol $10 US dollars for a bottle of water in Sydney :lol

[FrostKing]

Comme prévue:

Macron set for tax U-turn to quell 'yellow vest' protests

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-protests/french-government-preparing-to-suspend-fuel-tax-increases-source-idUSKBN1O30MX



2nd paragraph of this article

"In announcing the decision, Prime Minister Edouard Philippe said anyone would have “to be deaf or blind” not to see or hear the roiling anger on the streets over a policy that Macron has defended as critical to combating climate change."

Oh-oh.

[DMX7]

Been there

Its ok but I would not live there due to taxes and cost of living in cities. The benefits dont outweigh the cost imo. Unless you are a millionaire

:lol $10 US dollars for a bottle of water in Sydney :lol

Look, just about every place sucks if you don't have money. I judge places with the assumption that one is at least upper-middle class however you want to reasonably define that.

[FrostKing]

Look, just about every place sucks if you don't have money. I judge places with the assumption that one is at least upper-middle class however you want to reasonably define that.
I'd lower to simply "middle class" and you got me

[hater]

Look, just about every place sucks if you don't have money. I judge places with the assumption that one is at least upper-middle class however you want to reasonably define that.

Disagree

Middle class at least tbqh

[hater]

I'd lower to simply "middle class" and you got me


:tu

[pgardn]

Posters trying to explain things to hater concerning foreign affairs...

You guys have magic?

[spurraider21]

Posters trying to explain things to hater concerning foreign affairs...

You guys have magic?
:lol called it :lol

p:lolrt:loln j:lolhns:loln

[hater]

:lol called it :lol

p:lolrt:loln j:lolhns:loln

:lmao

Peeg:lolrden

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

lol Trump red-assing his ignorance again.

[Splits]

1070089367224549377

https://twitter.com/disgracedhat/status/1070091868904415232

lol

[Splits]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dtm70rwWsAIb0zw.jpg

[FrostKing]

White Americans so concerned about the environmental well being of a planet that might not even include them.

I'll support birth control in Africa before climate change initiatives

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/disgracedhat/status/1070091868904415232

lol

Carbon emissions...Looks like Michael is uninformed.

[Winehole23]

like you care

[koriwhat]

I'll support birth control in Africa before climate change initiatives

and many other countries too!

[Splits]

and many other countries too!

says the guy without a passport

[koriwhat]

says the guy without a passport

who said i wanted or needed a passport? i no longer have dreams of visiting the likes of europe or anywhere over the pond like i did when i was younger; i literally don't give a fuck if i ever see that side of the world.

i've seen quite of bit of MX though and drove deep into MX back when i was much younger. have you done the same? lmao you thinking i have no experience outside of san antonio let alone tx.

yall fucking know nothings are a dime a dozen.

[Pavlov]

who said i wanted or needed a passport? i no longer have dreams of visiting the likes of europe or anywhere over the pond like i did when i was younger; i literally don't give a fuck if i ever see that side of the world.

i've seen quite of bit of MX though and drove deep into MX back when i was much younger. have you done the same? lmao you thinking i have no experience outside of san antonio let alone tx.

yall fucking know nothings are a dime a dozen.Yep, had to fight his way out of Mexican thunderdome many times.

[Splits]

who said i wanted or needed a passport? i no longer have dreams of visiting the likes of europe or anywhere over the pond like i did when i was younger; i literally don't give a fuck if i ever see that side of the world.

i've seen quite of bit of MX though and drove deep into MX back when i was much younger. have you done the same? lmao you thinking i have no experience outside of san antonio let alone tx.

yall fucking know nothings are a dime a dozen.

lol doesn't own a passport

[koriwhat]

lol doesn't own a passport

and don't need to. how is that funny? smdh at you pathetic fucks.

[Splits]

and don't need to. how is that funny? smdh at you pathetic fucks.

:lmao

[koriwhat]

ok, so lets just address this once for all to realize. pavTheFag loves to bitch about others following his bitchass around but here he is blowing up my notifications when i didn't once quote him nor mention him today prior to any of his bs. fuck that faggot ass attention whore!

[koriwhat]

:lmao

is it some sort of feather in your hat to have a passport to countries you never want to step foot in at all? lol you never driving through MX and seeing what real slums look like but pretend to have experienced it all.

[Splits]

is it some sort of feather in your hat to have a passport to countries you never want to step foot in at all? lol you never driving through MX and seeing what real slums look like but pretend to have experienced it all.

:lmao omg please keep going

[koriwhat]

:lmao omg please keep going

what's the big deal exactly? when i used to goto MX i never needed a passport in the first place; i think that changed since then but not when i last went at 25 yrs old. it's too dangerous these days to go anywhere but tourist spots(some of those are bad too) and by plane.

[Splits]

what's the big deal exactly? when i used to goto MX i never needed a passport in the first place; i think that changed since then but not when i last went at 25 yrs old.

:lmao yeah since like 2007


it's too dangerous these days to go anywhere but tourist spots(some of those are bad too) and by plane.

How would you know? Did you read that on Breitbart? :lmao

[Splits]

Also thinking a passport is only good for getting into Mexico :lmao

[Pavlov]

ok, so lets just address this once for all to realize. pavTheFag loves to bitch about others following his bitchass around but here he is blowing up my notifications when i didn't once quote him nor mention him today prior to any of his bs. fuck that faggot ass attention whore!lol here's another notification for you.

[koriwhat]

:lmao yeah since like 2007

basically the last time i went.


How would you know? Did you read that on Breitbart? :lmao

how would i know? maybe because my buddies in Acapulco told me not to drive nor fly there because it's dangerous; well it was a few yrs back when i last talked with them. any other dumbass questions?

again with the breitbart bs... i already addressed this in another thread or maybe it was this one. because you have no real substance behind your "fight" you label me this or that; you lost faggot!

[koriwhat]

Also thinking a passport is only good for getting into Mexico :lmao

lmao why do i need a passport so bad as you're alluding to? you're a fucking retard.

[koriwhat]

lol here's another notification for you.

yeah and you're a bitch. die bitch die!

[Splits]

basically the last time i went.



how would i know? maybe because my buddies in Acapulco told me not to drive nor fly there because it's dangerous; well it was a few yrs back when i last talked with them. any other dumbass questions?

again with the breitbart bs... i already addressed this in another thread or maybe it was this one. because you have no real substance behind your "fight" you label me this or that; you lost faggot!

Oh yeah? Well my buddies in Acapulco say it is safe and that was only a couple months ago, SO THERE! :lol

:lmao have you ever even flown on an airplane before?

[koriwhat]

Oh yeah? Well my buddies in Acapulco say it is safe and that was only a couple months ago, SO THERE! :lol

cool. like i said, last time i called was a few yrs ago i figure things change frequently in the tourist spots.


:lmao have you ever even flown on an airplane before?

yep. last trip was to hawaii a yr ago. didn't need a passport then either seeing as it was hawaii. so again, wtf would i need one if i never intend on leaving the USA from here on out?

[Splits]

lmao why do i need a passport so bad as you're alluding to? you're a fucking retard.

To visit your beloved Benghazi... and "pay attention to what is going on in France"

[koriwhat]

To visit your beloved Benghazi... and "pay attention to what is going on in France"

wtf are you even babbling about? as well, if france burns to the ground i wouldn't shed a tear. fuck everyone but the USA!

[Splits]

cool. like i said, last time i called was a few yrs ago i figure things change frequently in the tourist spots.



yep. last trip was to hawaii a yr ago. didn't need a passport then either seeing as it was hawaii. so again, wtf would i need one if i never intend on leaving the USA from here on out?

The fact that you're pushing 40, have never traveled more than a couple hundred miles outside your birthplace, have no curiosity or intention to do so, tells me all I need to know. You're a simple, small man. You recognize it, you're OK with it. That's fine. But drop the schtick of passing judgement on anyone outside your immediate circle because you have absolutely zero real world experience to base any of your "fuck the rest of the world they can die USA USA USA" worldview on

[Splits]

fuck everyone but the USA!

on cue :lmao

[koriwhat]

The fact that you're pushing 40, have never traveled more than a couple hundred miles outside your birthplace, have no curiosity or intention to do so, tells me all I need to know. You're a simple, small man. You recognize it, you're OK with it. That's fine. But drop the schtick of passing judgement on anyone outside your immediate circle because you have absolutely zero real world experience to base any of your "fuck the rest of the world they can die USA USA USA" worldview on

a few hundred miles lmao... it took me like 20+ hrs to get to Acapulco. the path to Acapulco wasn't easy either and the pit stops were real eye openers. as well as my other trips to other parts of MX. oh and all over the USA too but i've only ever traveled a couple hundred miles if that. hahaha

dude, i don't really want the rest of the world to burn but i really and honestly don't give a fuck if it does.

your mad because i have my own opinions? stay mad!

[koriwhat]

on cue :lmao

am i not allowed to love my country? :lmao

ps: i say the same about the nba. fuck every team but the spurs! you going to harp on me for that too because i'm not all inclusive?

[spurraider21]

am i not allowed to love my country? :lmao

ps: i say the same about the nba. fuck every team but the spurs! you going to harp on me for that too because i'm not all inclusive?
loving your country =/= fuck all other countries

[koriwhat]

loving your country =/= fuck all other countries

yall take everything way too serious around here but then again look who i am going back and forth with...

[spurraider21]

yall take everything way too serious around here but then again look who i am going back and forth with...
coming from the guy who literally wishes death on people daily

[Pavlov]

coming from the guy who literally wishes death on people daily:lol for asking where he gets his news, no less.

[koriwhat]

coming from the guy who literally wishes death on people daily

do i? bring up the posts then! i only wish death on pavTheFag and it's not sarcasm either.

[Pavlov]

do i? bring up the posts then! i only wish death on pavTheFag and it's not sarcasm either.That's taking things way too seriously, sissy.

[koriwhat]

That's taking things way too seriously, sissy.

die bitch die!

[Winehole23]

list of Gilet Jaune demands can be found here:

https://yetiblog.org/le-programme-politique-des-gilets-jaunes-42-revendications/?fbclid=IwAR0t4cNUW3v6-fxKFUiGcrI9EkkKByiYXyIAnZI1XbjLFDJOPsNHPO2oZek

[Brazil]

and don't need to. how is that funny? smdh at you pathetic fucks.

the fact you have no passport is hilarious tbh...

:lmao

[koriwhat]

the fact you have no passport is hilarious tbh...

:lmao

i have no clue why that would be funny though... if i don't want nor need one then how is it funny i don't have a passport? yall are so fucking stupid.

[Brazil]

i have no clue why that would be funny though... if i don't want nor need one then how is it funny i don't have a passport? yall are so fucking stupid.

it's not funny it's actually hilarious

:lmao

[FrostKing]

https://i.imgur.com/8AA60ha.png



https://i.imgur.com/eKgYLa4.png

[Splits]

it's not funny it's actually hilarious

:lmao

:lmao

[koriwhat]

it's not funny it's actually hilarious

:lmao

i suppose... wow i don't have a passport and have no need for one in the first place. you on the other hand need that and more to come to my country and that's what's actually funny.

[DMX7]

lol doesn't own a passport

It's almost always the people who have never been anywhere that think they know so much about everywhere.

[Spurminator]

lol

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[Winehole23]

Macron backed down on the fuel tax.

kind of a big deal.

[FrostKing]

Macron backed down on the fuel tax.

kind of a big deal.
All the American media outlets I saw referenced climate change

Doubt people being forced to accept African migration are prioritising the environment

[Winehole23]

it's complex, but you only see a big black dick.

[FrostKing]

it's complex, but you only see a big black dick.
Polaks have the biggest dick that is why we tell them to fuck off back to their side of the planet

[Winehole23]

Polaks have the biggest dick that is why we tell them to fuck off back to their side of the planetI'm not surprised it all boils down to dick measuring with you.

Google searches seem to indicate Africa and South America have you beat, what's your boast based on?

Did some gal tell you your 5.5 inch penis was the biggest she ever saw?

http://www.averageheight.co/average-penis-size-by-country

[FrostKing]

I'm not surprised it all boils down to dick measuring with you.

Google searches seem to indicate Africa and South America have you beat, what's your boast based on?

Did some gal tell you your 5.5 inch penis was the biggest she ever saw?

http://www.averageheight.co/average-penis-size-by-country
LOL

What do you find complex on the issue?

[Winehole23]

You can't balance atmospheric carbon on the backs of the lower and middle classes while giving the uber-rich a tax break.

Firefighters and ambulance drivers, truckers, farmers and anyone with a yellow safety jacket in their car (mandatory under French law) who feels left out in the (newish) EU neoliberal order is joining this horizontal, non-ideological mass movement.

[Winehole23]

The Americanization of Europe and the global race to the bottom continues apace. Working full-time is no proof against poverty and misery.

There are and will be socially unseemly consequences for that.

[Winehole23]

The cost of living is too high and wages are too low.

Punishing and deporting Africans doesn't fix that.

[FrostKing]

Macron is a banker so the French should have expected such policies.

I agree with your posts. Western nations accepting mass migration - US, UK and Germany can atleast show their citizens economic prosperity and/or industries (such as tech) on the rise. The French are rightfully pessimistic. A nation without an identity or goal.

[Winehole23]

Getting rid of African and middle eastern migrants won't fix it. It's more complex than that.

[Winehole23]

I agree that Macron is a douchenozzle.

His approval rating is around 20% right now. It's too bad for France that French presidents serve six years.

[UnWantedTheory]

It's almost always the people who have never been anywhere that think they know so much about everywhere.Those same retards also think America is the greatest country in the United States.

[DMC]

Those same retards also think America is the greatest country in the United States.

eh?

:lol

[boutons_deux]

I agree that Macron is a douchenozzle.

His approval rating is around 20% right now. It's too bad for France that French presidents serve six years.

French always detest their Presidents, sooner or later

[UnWantedTheory]

eh?

:lol It's sarcasm about our stupidity and American exeptionalism.

[DMC]

It's sarcasm about our stupidity and American exeptionalism.

Sure :lol

[DMC]

It's almost always the people who have never been anywhere that think they know so much about everywhere.

People who live here arent necessarily more educated on the US than someone who doesn't. Political experts dont need to be world travellers.

[UnWantedTheory]

Sure :lol
Sure is.

[FrostKing]

People who live here arent necessarily more educated on the US than someone who doesn't. Political experts dont need to be world travellers.
Some nations/cultures are significantly different in public than behind closed doors. I.e. Germans. If you want the true feelings and beliefs of a German you do have to visit and even befriend.

[DMC]

Some nations/cultures are significantly different in public than behind closed doors. I.e. Germans. If you want the true feelings and beliefs of a German you do have to visit and even befriend.
People are people. You can stereotype from here as well as there.

[FrostKing]

People are people. You can stereotype from here as well as there.
Americans are encouraged to be expressive and furthermore the Police won't show up to your job because you questioned Trump's immigration policy on Facebook (Germany).

[DMC]

Americans are encouraged to be expressive and furthermore the Police won't show up to your job because you questioned Trump's immigration policy on Facebook (Germany).

And companies in Japan can discriminate based on attributes that are protected under US law, but :cry why can't the United States be more like them.

[FrostKing]

https://i.imgur.com/H0vsKUz.jpg

[Winehole23]

Very specifically the source of ideological inspiration of the yellow jackets is to go to the notebooks of proposals ("Cahiers de doléances") of 1789 before the fall of the Bourbon monarchy. http://www.historyguide.org/intellect/cahiers.html

[CosmicCowboy]

Cocksucker cowboy is a stupid fucking child molester. You think he has any fucking critical thinking skills?

he’s a white redneck racist version of spurt

Awww Baby Bonner twoes another tantwum rant. How special.

[CosmicCowboy]

And you molest children. But you’re really nothing more than a fucking coward.

Awww Baby Bonner projects his personal fantasies on to me again. How special.

[Winehole23]

Bonnerific with zero topical contribution. All he does is shit on other posters.

[Winehole23]

Police unions threaten to join the protests:


Negotiations between three unions—Alliance, UNSA-Police and Unity-SGP-FO—and Interior Minister Christophe Castaner on Tuesday failed to reach a settlement. As talks resumed on Wednesday, France 24 reported that activists were calling on forces across the country to commit to a “slowdown” and only respond to emergencies until the dispute had been settled.

Police have accumulated some 23 million hours of overtime that is yet to be paid. According to The Local France, police union leader Frédéric Lagache explained, “Faced with this irresponsibility [of the government], we are forced to be irresponsible in our actions.”


The Alliance and Unity-SGP-FO unions called for a “black day for the police” on Wednesday. The Alliance is using Twitter and Facebook to rally support for what it calls “Act 1” of the police protests, using the name given to the ongoing demonstrations held by the gilets jaunes. The group has also threatened to hold “Act II” and “Act III” if required.


Unions have already warned the government over a newly proposed budget set to be adopted Thursday, which Alliance said would cut around $70.8 million from the national police budget.


Such a blow would further degrade conditions for police amid their most pressing deployments for years. Denis Jacob, a spokesperson for the Alternative Police union, said the police are already “at breaking point.”https://www.newsweek.com/france-protests-police-strike-gilets-jaunes-yellow-vests-pay-overtime-1264961

[Winehole23]

25,000 gilet jaunes in Bordeaux, BoF entrance is on fire:

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[Chris]

https://twitter.com/V_of_Europe/status/1079403483521040386

[DMX7]

https://i.imgur.com/H0vsKUz.jpg

Read the asterisk text on that Time Magazine cover.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article13844939.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/2_Screen-Shot-2019-01-12-at-082405.jpg

Debris litters the surrounding area
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article13844935.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/1_Screen-Shot-2019-01-12-at-082209.jpg

Buildings are on fire after the incidentOne Twitter user, who lives nearby, said his windows were rattled by the force of the blast.

Others are claiming the incident was the result of a gas explosion.
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The fire is thought to have started in a shop on the Rue de Trevise in Paris
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Boulangere Patisserie, where the explosion is thought to have originated
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[Chris]

Germany’s defence minister has confirmed that “a united EU military is becoming a reality,” after her ally and Chancellor Angela Merkel backed Emmanuel Macron’s call for a “real European army.”

The Hegelian Dialectic

[Chris]

Flood the countries in the EU with chaos (Islam) and swoop in to save the day with new and improved EU army.

[spurraider21]

Germany’s defence minister has confirmed that “a united EU military is becoming a reality,” after her ally and Chancellor Angela Merkel backed Emmanuel Macron’s call for a “real European army.”

The Hegelian Dialectic


Flood the countries in the EU with chaos (Islam) and swoop in to save the day with new and improved EU army.

that only works under the false assumption that france/germany are using islam in europe as the pretense for establishing a united EU military

except from your own article...


Germany and France began to take the lead on the defence project, in November 2018, after French President Emmanuel Macron said that the EU needed a “real European army” to defend itself against China, Russia, and even fellow NATO member the United States

:lol muh hegelian dialectic

if europe's most powerful ally (us, in case you were wondering) didnt constantly try taking shits on europe at every opportunity, it probably wouldn't have come to this

[Winehole23]

The state prosecutor had reportedly sought a harsher penalty of two years imprisonment and a three-year protesting ban. However, the fact that Martin had not actually committed any violent acts, but rather “participated in a violent movement,”saw his sentence significantly reduced.https://www.rt.com/news/449056-french-yellow-vest-protester-jailed/

[pgardn]

Flood the countries in the EU with chaos (Islam) and swoop in to save the day with new and improved EU army.

Rich guys in power reflexively blame it on Islam.
Gulp that down.

People have entirely forgotten the riots on the outskirts of Pars and have not related it to France, democracy, and the current movement. They have something in common. Wealth, jobs, and the inequities that lead to these things.

[Winehole23]

anti-riot law based on anti-hooligan measures:


French MPs on Tuesday approved an anti-rioting bill giving security forces the power to ban suspected hooligans from demonstrating, in a controversial bid to crack down on violence that has marred Yellow Vest protests over the last three months.

\
Opponents say the bill, approved by the lower house of parliament (https://www.france24.com/en/tag/french-parliament/)by 387 votes to 92, contravenes the constitutional right to demonstrate.

Under its most contentious provision, government officials would be able to ban people suspected of being hooligans from taking part in demonstrations – without oversight from a judge.

Inspired by legislation used to crack down on football hooligans, the new law calls for a six-month prison sentence and a €7,500 ($8,500) fine for violators.

https://www.france24.com/en/20190205-france-anti-riot-bill-yellow-vest-protest-macron-parliament-castaner

[boutons_deux]

Macron, a fucking BigFinance guy, cut taxes on the wealthy and raised them on others.

French prosecutors tied to Macron attempt newsroom raid after critical stories

ON THE MORNING OF FEBRUARY 4, staff members at Mediapart, the French independent investigative website

When a reporter went to the door just after 11, he found two public prosecutors from the French Ministère Public—

a branch of the judiciary similar to the Attorney General’s office and directly linked to the executive chamber—

and three policemen.

The officials demanded to search the newsroom as part of an investigation they had launched after a string of recent Mediapart stories.

Mediapart refused, because the prosecutors didn’t have a warrant.

Edwy Plenel, the founder and publisher of Mediapart, calls the attempted raid “an attack on the free press,” and

an unprecedented attempt by Emmanuel Macron to reveal Mediapart’s sources and seize documents and recordings.

In a press conference with the Mediapart journalists, Christophe Deloire, Reporters Without Borders’ Secretary General, called the move “a freedom-destroying drift against the secrecy of sources.”

https://www.cjr.org/analysis/mediapart-raid-macron.php (https://www.cjr.org/analysis/mediapart-raid-macron.php)

[Winehole23]

They want to blame Macron, the Brits and the rest of the "crooked" European politicians and anyone else who looks like they have some level of authority/culpability, but the real problem (at least right now) is not politics. The real problem is that years of really bad ECB Monetary policy, with no recognition of what "free market" capital movement can do to an otherwise healthy economy, has irreversibly and finally come home to roost.




Simply put, years ago French wealth began to leave the country for easily accessible tax haven destinations, primarily Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Switzerland, with very little coming back in. (Apparently the Chinese aren't fond of escargot). This is of course, a double headed swinging guillotine.




As domestic money leaves, it both erodes the tax base and stifles the economy. Fleeing capital means no new investment, no new innovation, no new jobs and no new hope. As we've seen, It apparently does indeed lead to scores of pissed off, fire bombing, school crossing guards.



Ironically, this dramatic capital flight took place under Super Mario's Near-ZIRP decade of monetary expansion and unprecedented stimulus. Unfortunately, the stimulus just wasn't going to the French people....it was going to Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Switzerland....some/much of the wealth is still owned by French elite, but invested somewhere else anonymously, perhaps in NYC Condos or US Tech Stocks, at probably more than a few basis points higher than it could have earned at home. Rich people, as we all know, are always willing to sell out their homeland for a few basis points and a tax cut.
https://deep-throat-ipo.blogspot.com/2019/02/dalios-big-debt-crisisthe-fsb-report.html?m=1

[RandomGuy]

https://deep-throat-ipo.blogspot.com/2019/02/dalios-big-debt-crisisthe-fsb-report.html?m=1

Echoes of problems here.

The real solution to part of our deficit problems is not raising the nominal tax rate for the upper margins. It would simply be a concerted effort to go after tax-havens, and tax enforcement.

Right wing info-warfare succeeded in hobbling the IRS through a thousand little budget cuts.

These tax-havens have proliferated and will require some solid, coordinated efforts on the part of the US and EU. I do not see the modern GOP, paid for lock, stock, and barrel by wealthy donors, and the modern Democratic party almost as badly compromised by money doing anything about that.

Dare I say it? Fucked and unfuckable?

[Winehole23]

not losing steam, it would appear:

http://thesaker.is/february-the-22nd-gilets-jaunes-sitrep/

[Winehole23]

French cops beating up rando elderly passers by. Normal civil society stuff.

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[DMX7]

When will it end? It's out of control.

[boutons_deux]

When will it end? It's out of control.

Les gilets jaunes are protesting "control" by the French oligarchy, eg, Macron cutting taxes for the wealthy and raising taxes for the non-wealthy.

So of course, their protests are by definition, out of "control"

The CRS (Compagnie Republicaine de Securite) is having lots of fun beating the shit out of the gilets jaunes, is why they joined the CRS, along with job security.

[DMX7]

Les gilets jaunes are protesting "control" by the French oligarchy, eg, Macron cutting taxes for the wealthy and raising taxes for the non-wealthy.

So of course, their protests are by definition, out of "control"

The CRS (Compagnie Republicaine de Securite) is having lots of fun beating the shit out of the gilets jaunes, is why they joined the CRS, along with job security.

We never saw MLK Jr leading riots and looting of luxury shops. What’s going on in Paris now is NOT the right way to go about this.

[boutons_deux]

We never saw MLK Jr leading riots and looting of luxury shops. What’s going on in Paris now is NOT the right way to go about this.

MLK produced little more lasting value than great oration, and streets named after him.

Blacks are still discriminated against, variously oppressed, esp by cops, are on average 3rd class citizens.

Historically, great power and wealth held by a small number of men, eg as we have now in Inequality World Champion USA, has NEVER been yielded peacefully. eg, the American Revolution against the English oligarchy.

I doubt we will have revolution in fat-assed, diseased USA, and the ever-more powerful and skilled oligarchy knows that its power will remain unchallenged.

France's French Revolution to overthrow France's oligarchy is fundamental to Frenchmen's Frenchness.

Just like Trash and his mob cult, the French were fed up with the French oligarchy's rigged "democracy" and "capitalism", so they voted in a non-politician who screwed them just like their politicians did, and just like Trash has done to his mob cult.

Macron will crush the gilets jaunes, it's that all govts do to dissent, and the rigged France will continue as before.