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timvp
12-06-2018, 05:23 AM
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Well, at least it was a close game. A night after suffering their third blowout loss by more than 30 points in four games, the Spurs actually had a good chance to win Wednesday night in Los Angeles against the Lakers. That good chance evaporated when LeBron James exploded in the fourth quarter.

San Antonio was up by eight points with ten minutes remaining in the game when James reentered. Over the next ten minutes, the best player in Lakers history scored 20 of his game-high 42 points to propel Los Angeles to a 121-113 victory.

The autopsy of this latest loss starts on the defensive end. The Spurs were doing a relatively decent job on that end until the greatest Lakers player ever spearheaded a 43-point fourth quarter. At the final buzzer, the Spurs had allowed 115.2 points per 100 possessions -- a worse than usual rate (113.4 points) for the second worst defensive team in the NBA.

The offense, despite a combined 84 points by DeMar DeRozan, Rudy Gay and LaMarcus Aldridge, just didn't have enough firepower to hang on. Unfortunately, the team's offensive upside was neutered by Pop's decision to put Dante Cunningham back into the starting lineup in place of Davis Bertans and play him 34 minutes. It also didn't help that it took Pop until the second half to realize Derrick White needed a more prominent role.

Big picture-wise, it's possible to say this game was a step in the right direction. Not a moral victory by any stretch of the imagination ... but a notable improvement compared to their last two road games in which the Spurs lost by a total of 73 points. San Antonio competed well and put themselves in a position to possibly win the game. That alone, right now, is progress.

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LaMarcus Aldridge
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I wasn't impressed by the overall energy level LaMarcus Aldridge displayed. He did a lot of loafing, which manifested most negatively on the defensive end. He was slow to offer help, particularly at the rim and in pick-and-roll sets. Aldridge's individual defense was fine, though, as was his work on the boards. Offensively, he missed four of his five shots from outside of the paint and authored a handful of halfhearted forays into the paint. To his credit, Aldridge's efficiency was good for the night on offense and he scored some key points in the fourth quarter to give the good guys a chance. All in all, I don't have much issue with Aldridge's boxscore production but it would have helped if he had given better and more consistent effort throughout the evening.
Grade: C+
Summary: Aldridge put up stats.

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DeMar DeRozan
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Defensively, DeMar DeRozan didn't do much right. He read the passing lanes correctly a couple times but that was the extent of his contributions on that end. Offensively, DeRozan simply wasn't efficient enough -- 32 points on 27 shots is not good enough, particularly when the team's two other main scorers had it going. On this night, more passing, more precision, less ball-stopping and less sloppiness would have helped. DeRozan had stretches where he was really good offensively but consistency was lacking and he wasn't up for the challenge to fight back when LeBron was LeSurging in the fourth, as he went scoreless during a five-minute stretch that saw the Lakers go from down eight to up one.
Grade: C
Summary: DeRozan was busy during his 41 minutes but didn't do enough right.

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Rudy Gay
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A night after going scoreless in 19 minutes in Utah, Rudy Gay bounced back with a very good performance. He posted a season-high 31 points and was virtually unstoppable in a third quarter that saw him score 16 points. Truthfully, Gay still wasn't moving well and wasn't getting much elevation when jumping. But he battled through his physical limitations and gave the Spurs all he had. Defensively, he didn't have much success on James (no one did, really) and was slow to rotate at times but he was fighting for rebounds and was stubborn under the basket. The fourth quarter had to be infuriating for Gay. Despite his 16 points in the third, he didn't get many touches in the final stanza. To make matters worse, the Lakers had a small (usually Josh Hart) on him, yet the Spurs rarely tried to take advantage of the mismatch.
Grade: A
Summary: Gay poured in a season-high in points and his toughness throughout was excellent.

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Bryn Forbes
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Bryn Forbes is slumping right now. Over his last five games, he's shooting 35 percent from the field and 26.1 percent from beyond the three-point line. Against the Lakers, he couldn't make the defense pay for routinely doubling off of him. It got to the point that Forbes was so out of sorts that he was unplayable. Defensively, I thought Forbes' tenacity-level was improved from recent outings but he's not to be confused for an asset on that end. The bottom line for Forbes is he has to hit shots to have value and he was shooting crooked tonight.
Grade: D+
Summary: Forbes couldn't hit a shot and the Lakers were well aware of that fact.

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Dante Cunningham
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I don't even know what to type. Dante Cunningham playing 34 minutes in this game was an inexcusable coaching decision. First of all, Cunningham didn't slow down James at all. At all. Secondly, Cunningham only defended James for about 60 percent of the time he was on the court. So why play him so much when he's not always defending James and not slowing him down even when he was defending him? I don't understand. To no one's surprise, the Spurs offense sputtered in the minutes Cunningham was on the court and was humming when he was on the bench.
Grade: D+
Summary: Cunningham didn't do much of anything yet played 34 minutes.

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Patty Mills
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The good: Patty Mills was extra vocal tonight. It's obvious he took it upon himself to attempt to be more of a leader. He was doing what he could to keep the spirits up. Commendable. He also had a few good passes on the move. The bad: Mills just wasn't very good at basketball tonight. He missed shots on one end and wasn't his usual frenetic self on the other end. His play in the fourth quarter was well south of par; his shot selection was poor and he telegraphed a key turnover that further swung the momentum away from San Antonio.
Grade: C-
Summary: Mills was mentally engaged but made too many mistakes.

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Derrick White
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Derrick White entered the game for the first time at the beginning of the second quarter and instantly changed the game in San Antonio's favor. After the Spurs totaled three assists in a clunky first quarter, White handed out four assists in the second quarter's first two and a half minutes to completely erase an eight-point deficit. That stretch was the finest stretch of basketball we've seen out of White thus far in the NBA. The rest of his game against the Lakers wasn't quite as magical. His defense was relatively strong, he helped out rebounding-wise and he kept his mistakes to a minimum but White also had a multiple misses on wide open looks that could have changed the trajectory of the outcome. That said, White certainly did well to further make it obvious that he'll need to be a key cog if this team is to play consistent, winning basketball.
Grade: B+
Summary: White was amazing at times but missed shots that could have taken his performance to the next level.

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Jakob Poeltl
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Jakob Poeltl continued his strong play. He looks really solid on both ends of the court now. Offensively, he's nearly automatic in the paint, he's a threat rolling to the rim and he makes the right passes. Defensively, he grabbed a season high six defensive boards and guarded the rim well at times. Poeltl can still improve in terms of his rotation speed when defending the paint and contesting shots without fouling. However, overall, Poeltl is looking good and his improved confidence has exposed quite a bit of talent.
Grade: A-
Summary: Poeltl was a bright spot in his 15 minutes of play.

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Davis Bertans
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Davis Bertans was back to the bench after starting the previous two games. Once in the game, he came out firing and knocked down all three of his three-pointers in his first seven minutes on the floor. The rest of his night, though, was a struggle. Defensively, he moved his feet okay at times but he also made dumb plays on that end, wasn't physical enough and allowed himself to get flustered by calls that didn't go his way. Offensively, after the Lakers stopped leaving him, he didn't have much of an impact besides the spacing his presence created.
Grade: C
Summary: Benched Bertans was a difference-maker early but fizzled out.

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Marco Belinelli
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Ugh. Marco Belinelli played terrible defense in the first half. He compounded matters with out of control play on offense. In the second half, Belinelli watched from the sidelines as White absorbed his minutes.
Grade: D
Summary: Belinelli played bad.

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Pop
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The good: Pop eventually realized that White should play more and Belinelli should play less. The bad: Playing Cunningham 34 minutes tonight, as I've previously detailed, made no sense. It really hurt San Antonio's chances of winning. Playing White as an afterthought was laughably senseless. DeRozan played too many minutes for a guy who wasn't playing all that well on the second night of a back-to-back. Not calling plays for an on-fire Gay when there were mismatches galore in the fourth quarter was poor coaching.
Grade: F+
Summary: Pop's coaching made it all but impossible for the Spurs to win what was otherwise a winnable game.

Looking ahead: The forthcoming six-game homestand couldn't come at a better time. If the playoffs are going to include San Antonio this season, this is when the Spurs will start making up ground. The good guys need to go at least 4-2 to get their wheels back on the postseason track.

The homestand begins with a Lakers rematch on Friday night. If nothing else, it'll be fascinating to see if Pop realizes his coaching was nonoptimal tonight or if he'll double down on his strategies.

Chinook
12-06-2018, 05:36 AM
Gay can't guard Lebron, not even to the extent Cun can. I don't think it's justifiable to act like it didn't make sense to play him. LAL might be the only team in the league where it made sense. That's even more true at the end of the game, when Gay had five fouls and could not spend much time on Lebron at all. The team obviously lacks an SF that would make it unnecessary to start Dante in the first place. That's been beaten to death, though.

Game really comes down to the Spurs missing a ton of shots they should have made and need to make with their D as bad as it is. The Utah game fell apart the way it did because every time the Spurs had a chance to gain momentum, the Jazz would nail an open three. It just felt like if they could miss one of those, the Spurs could go on a run, but it didn't happen until the very end of the game. In this game against LAL, the Spurs had numerous chances to hit such shots and clanked them. Lebron went into full video-game mode at the end, but it shouldn't have even been an open if the Spurs had been more clutch.

As far as I can see, the Spurs have nine more days to get above .500. I don't see this being a playoff team right now. Gasol may never come back and be impactful, and even if he could, he and Poeltl can't play together or with Aldridge. LMA is just too old to be his 2017 self every game. Gay and DeRozan both establish a not-abysmal floor, but they don't lift the ceiling. Bertans and Beli haven't done enough to want to keep them to give it the old college try next year. The idea of turning off the burners for this year just makes too much sense.

monty4329
12-06-2018, 06:00 AM
No matter the offense, it is impossible to win any game if you give up 43 points in the fourth quarter. If only for that, grades should be F for everybody.

Also it doesn't help that only three players go to the line. But still the issue is the absence of any defense. At this point, just trade for crazy shooters, run and gun and hope to make 35 threes a game, at least it will be fun to watch.

Ed Helicopter Jones
12-06-2018, 06:25 AM
It sure looks like Pop has mailed it in. He seems as disinterested as the players, and his head-scratching in-game decision making leaves a lot to be desired. He’s not coaching this year. He seems done. Where is the fire? His players certainly have to feel that.

Beyond Rudy, Demar, and Poetl, this team sucks ass, and Demar is so weak defensively I’m not sure he’s a net positive. LMA is talented but a head case...it’s like we’re stuck with our own version of Dwight Howard. I wish we could get the LMA that gives his all every night. Maybe Pop could tell Aldridge that they’re playing the Blazers every game.

The rest of the squad could be replaced tomorrow with G leaguers and I’m not sure we’d see a dip in the Spurs play. Add DeRizan, Gay and LMA to some g-league rosters and they’re probably better than this group. Cunningham has to go, Belinelli too. Forbes is showing he’s not an NBA level talent. Bertans is no more than a spot role player...11th man. Mills can lead and mentor from the bench and with spot minutes...he’s the best towel waver I’ve ever seen.

I hope we make a roster move or two. It’s sad how bad this group is.

Thanks, as always, Timvp. At least the game write-ups give me something to look forward to every game. :tu

sananspursfan21
12-06-2018, 07:05 AM
timvp I couldn’t tell from the write-up if you felt like Lebron was the greatest Laker or not :lol

sananspursfan21
12-06-2018, 07:06 AM
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but it’s time for a coaching change. Gone is the fire in Pop’s belly

Strategic
12-06-2018, 07:29 AM
Gay might have been auditioning in this one.

acoelho1
12-06-2018, 07:57 AM
LeBron the greatest Laker player ever??? You must be thinking of Cleveland because Kareem, Magic & Kobe played on the Lakers. Also, you can’t be the greatest of anything with a losing record in the finals, period.

dbestpro
12-06-2018, 07:58 AM
Pop's infatuation with Cunningham is the first thing that needs to be fixed. It is just stupid, or senile, or both.

TDomination
12-06-2018, 07:59 AM
The homestand begins with a Lakers rematch on Friday night. If nothing else, it'll be fascinating to see if Pop realizes his coaching was nonoptimal tonight or if he'll double down on his strategies.

I'm worried that will not be the case since we were competitive in this game. He will probably just think that it was a case of lebron getting insanely hot, otherwise we would've won. Which is kind of true but at the same time, every team seems to be getting crazy hot against us. Perhaps it's our D? Nah it's just unluckiness

UZER
12-06-2018, 08:04 AM
:lol at people still thinking Pop will “realize” something and make change.

therealtruth
12-06-2018, 08:09 AM
I would expect Pop to double down on his strategies. And he's still giving the ridiculous media interviews. You would think he would humbled.

Spurs fever
12-06-2018, 09:05 AM
Nice write up.

ducks
12-06-2018, 09:27 AM
About time pop grades are F

Phenomanul
12-06-2018, 09:34 AM
I think Pop better than anyone understands that the Spurs don't have the tools to contend for a championship this year. His inconsistent coaching strategies suggests to me that he is employing some sort of stealth tanking. His players are competing and so they can't be blamed for an outright tank, but they aren't being placed into the best positions to actually win games. Murray's ACL seemingly changed everything. Can lightning strike a third time? Will the Spurs end up with the No. 1 overall pick again? Extremely early to know or speculate, obviously. The Spurs meanwhile have somehow slid to the bottom of the barrel in the Western Conference.

apalisoc_9
12-06-2018, 09:40 AM
With the exception lf Bertans, crazy how our grades are practiclly the same.

boutons_deux
12-06-2018, 09:42 AM
Pop realizes his coaching was nonoptimal

:lol stop with the weasal-ly euphemisms

how about disinterested, disaffected chair-warming while pocketing $Ms?

r0drig0lac
12-06-2018, 09:50 AM
I think Pop better than anyone understands that the Spurs don't have the tools to contend for a championship this year. His inconsistent coaching strategies suggests to me that he is employing some sort of stealth tanking. His players are competing and so they can't be blamed for an outright tank, but they aren't being placed into the best positions to actually win games. Murray's ACL seemingly changed everything. Can lightning strike a third time? Will the Spurs end up with the No. 1 overall pick again? Extremely early to know or speculate, obviously. The Spurs meanwhile have somehow slid to the bottom of the barrel in the Western Conference.

Pop was the best coach in history (although the contribution of all coaches is overrated imo), but the conspiracy theories to cover up his glaring flaws over the past few years are absurd (these failures have happened more in his job in the front office than as coaching obviously).

NASpurs
12-06-2018, 09:58 AM
29th worst defense in the league. A whole point worse than the fucking Suns and not that far off from the Cavs, who are 30th.

Phenomanul
12-06-2018, 10:03 AM
Pop was the best coach in history (although the contribution of all coaches is overrated imo), but the conspiracy theories to cover up his glaring flaws over the past few years are absurd (these failures have happened more in his job in the front office than as coaching obviously).

He didn't cause Murray's or Walker's injuries. Pau was lost early on as well. It's disingenuous to suggest that loosing your only defensive-minded guards prior to the season is something that most other coaches would have a solid contingency plan for. The Spurs did not and have employed rather patchy strategies to make due with what they have. Tongue-in-cheek suggestions on my part that perhaps the Spurs are tanking are just that... The team is competing; other than 3-5 pieces though, the team just doesn't have as much talent as the rest of the league.

K...
12-06-2018, 10:05 AM
There is no coach who could fix DeRozan and LMA. It's fools gold, like a cursed item you can't remove from your inventory. The only hope is to wait out the LMA pop regime

TheGreatYacht
12-06-2018, 10:29 AM
I think Pop better than anyone understands that the Spurs don't have the tools to contend for a championship this year. His inconsistent coaching strategies suggests to me that he is employing some sort of stealth tanking. His players are competing and so they can't be blamed for an outright tank, but they aren't being placed into the best positions to actually win games. Murray's ACL seemingly changed everything. Can lightning strike a third time? Will the Spurs end up with the No. 1 overall pick again? Extremely early to know or speculate, obviously. The Spurs meanwhile have somehow slid to the bottom of the barrel in the Western Conference.
Folks think Pop's coaching is so bad he has to be tanking :lmao

He's just the fraud that me and many others have known him to be.

dbestpro
12-06-2018, 10:33 AM
Pop has always been a decent coach when he does not ask players to do things they cannot do. He has always been a poor coach by asking players to do things they are not good at. Starting Cunningham is one of those moments where is asking someone to do things they are not good at.

Play Boban
12-06-2018, 10:57 AM
Play Poeltl.....

vavvi
12-06-2018, 11:09 AM
Spurstalk's in full panic mode.

I actually liked the game which is a rare experience with Spurs games lately. I disagree on Cun today: while I think he shouldn't start in 90% of games; today I thought he played decently and actually stopped Lebron here and there a couple of times which could be enough if... And here come the main reasons we lost the game:
1. Lakers made some really tough shots in the end. Like Lebron made 2 ultra-long Curry-like threes.
2. We've got almost zero production from our PGs. Forbes was atrocious. Mills did not have a good game. White could not make a shot. We didn't need much -- 3-4 usual threes from Forbes & Mills would be enough but they couldn't contribute. I don't buy Forbes as a starter in this league, and I think he should be benched for Mills, White or the corpse of Nicolás freaking Laprovíttola

SAGirl
12-06-2018, 11:30 AM
All the criticism of Cunningham may be warranted but it should then directed at the FO that brought him on board and thought the team would be fine starting him. Why hate the player and protect precious PATFO from critics?

Davis picked up 4 fouls in 13 minutes and he strikes me as the kind of guy that like Forbes when that shot isn't falling you need to bench also.

SAGirl
12-06-2018, 11:32 AM
Spurstalk's in full panic mode.

I actually liked the game which is a rare experience with Spurs games lately. I disagree on Cun today: while I think he shouldn't start in 90% of games; today I thought he played decently and actually stopped Lebron here and there a couple of times which could be enough if... And here come the main reasons we lost the game:
1. Lakers made some really tough shots in the end. Like Lebron made 2 ultra-long Curry-like threes.
2. We've got almost zero production from our PGs. Forbes was atrocious. Mills did not have a good game. White could not make a shot. We didn't need much -- 3-4 usual threes from Forbes & Mills would be enough but they couldn't contribute. I don't buy Forbes as a starter in this league, and I think he should be benched for Mills, White or the corpse of Nicolás freaking Laprovíttola
Forbes is definitely not a starter in this league, definitely. In fact some things mentioned in timvp's comments: Spurs not recognizing mismatches when Gay was having an awesome game and Mills terrible game management at the end speak to the teams need for a real PG.

Hoops Czar
12-06-2018, 12:03 PM
DeRozen and Aldridge are stars. :lmao

Hoops Czar
12-06-2018, 12:05 PM
All the criticism of Cunningham may be warranted but it should then directed at the FO that brought him on board and thought the team would be fine starting him. Why hate the player and protect precious PATFO from critics?

Davis picked up 4 fouls in 13 minutes and he strikes me as the kind of guy that like Forbes when that shot isn't falling you need to bench also.

Bertans, like Forbes is the kind of guy that sucks at everything outside of hitting three point shots.

MoSpur02
12-06-2018, 12:43 PM
When Davis is hitting threes he's great. The thing is that's all he does and he isn't as consistent as the Spurs need him to be. When his shot is struggling he's pretty much useless. He can't defend and can't create for himself or others on the team. Same can be said for Forbes. They both need to be moved. If the Spurs can't move them then they need to be benched.

Cunningham isn't doing much of anything. He's more of a second unit kind of player and maybe not even that. Not sure what the front office was thinking signing him. He needs to be moved as well. If they can't move him then negotiate a buyout and bring in a true small forward. I think a guy like Corey Brewer would be better than Cunningham. Not sure how much better, but better. Spurs wouldn't lose much money buying out Cunningham and wouldn't spend much signing someone like Brewer.

DAF86
12-06-2018, 12:53 PM
When Davis is hitting threes he's great. The thing is that's all he does and he isn't as consistent as the Spurs need him to be. When his shot is struggling he's pretty much useless. He can't defend and can't create for himself or others on the team. Same can be said for Forbes. They both need to be moved. If the Spurs can't move them then they need to be benched.

Bertans is a much better defender than guys like Belinelli or Forbes. So instead of having those guys out there, you might as well have Davis, who also happens to be a much better shooter.

Bertans is shooting 44% from 3, he's the most consistent three pt shooter in the roster. Also, even if he's not hitting (or even shooting) he still makes a difference by providing spacing. There's just no rationale behind not playing him.

rjv
12-06-2018, 12:55 PM
i'm beginning to look at this season as more of a semi-hope we tank feel and let's develop who we can and ultimately trade or let go of who we can. there are some bright spots in what i have seen of poeltl and white as of late has been encouraging. even metu has shown some development. i just want to be able to think that if we can add another FA this summer, along with a nice draft pick, a healthy murray and a slightly developed walker that maybe we can get back to being a playoff team in 2019-20. cause i just don't see us making the playoffs this year.

MoSpur02
12-06-2018, 01:00 PM
If the Spurs front office is set on sticking with this group the entire season then they need to change the starting lineup and rotation. I would start White, Derozan, Gay, Aldridge, and Poeltl. I wouldn't give that much playing time to Belinelli. They need to start giving more minutes to Metu too.

The return of Walker and Gasol will help some, but I wouldn't start Gasol.

Harry Callahan
12-06-2018, 01:31 PM
This is a non-playoff season. I can live with that. There needs to be player development with the younger guys as much as winning games.

This team is not threat to win a WC playoff series when they will be at best a 7th or 8th seed again. Just roll with the punches.

tb5
12-06-2018, 01:38 PM
The 4th quarter collapse last night isn't suprising when you're not a good defensive team and LeBron goes off. The Spurs are what they are - an up and down team that isn't very good and hasn't been together very long. Don't sign anymore bad contracts and get rid of the bad contracts they have. There is not much they can do this season. Not too much to be excited about. By the time everyone gets healthy, LMA and DDR are 1 year older.

RC_Drunkford
12-06-2018, 02:00 PM
:lol at people still thinking Pop will “realize” something and make change.

this. Cunningham plays another 35 minutes next game with Belinelli getting more minutes than White

Arcadian
12-06-2018, 02:14 PM
There is no coach who could fix DeRozan and LMA. It's fools gold, like a cursed item you can't remove from your inventory. The only hope is to wait out the LMA pop regime

:lol RPG analogies :tu

phxspurfan
12-06-2018, 02:56 PM
Is this the first sign of DeMar getting son'd again by LeBron, this time on the Spurs?

RC_Drunkford
12-06-2018, 03:38 PM
the game was over when Mills came in, turned the ball over, then took 2 random shots which he both missed. Then left his man open at the 3 point line twice and gave up 2 3s. That's where they lost the game

spurs10
12-06-2018, 05:58 PM
Thanks for the grades. It was another sad one to watch, as we just negated all of Rudy's inspired 3rd quarter with an unbelievably bad 4th quarter. 43 points? Lawd, that ain't right!

NASpurs
12-06-2018, 06:36 PM
When did Kirk stop being the stats guy for the Spurs? Probably got fired when he suggested to PATFO to stop shooting so many mid range jumpers.

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NASpurs
12-06-2018, 06:40 PM
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koriwhat
12-06-2018, 06:50 PM
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he means under duncan they were top 3 in defense. :cry

RC_Drunkford
12-06-2018, 09:14 PM
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I bet Pop thinks defense has everything to do with his schemes and not individual skill. That's the only valid explanation for this. I mean we all knew the defense will be trash

wildbill2u
12-06-2018, 09:54 PM
Pop's infatuation with Cunningham is the first thing that needs to be fixed. It is just stupid, or senile, or both.

Front line rotation is out of kilter. We could actually be missing Pau's veteran presence on the court and as depth on the front line. One solution is to play Poertle 30+ minutes and let him learn while playing. He can't do worse than Cunningham. LMA, Poertle and Gay wouldn't be a terrible front line.

When Gay needs a blow, why not go small with De Rozen or White at SF with a little Metu and/or Poindexter thrown in. Gotta look to the future.

apalisoc_9
12-06-2018, 10:19 PM
I bet Pop thinks defense has everything to do with his schemes and not individual skill. That's the only valid explanation for this. I mean we all knew the defense will be trash

Pop knows his stuff in terms of defense. But hes just very poor at evaluating talent alongside RC who is equally poor.

Gone are the days when Pop called kawhi "He's the franchise player" in his second year :cry.

Just out of touch now.

r0drig0lac
12-07-2018, 04:41 AM
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breaking negative marks in sequence