How Much Can Bryn Forbes Improve?

[BlackAndWhite]

Realistically How much can Forbes improve until the end of his prime?

[lmbebo]

guessing ceiling is like Steve Kerr?

[jermaine]

Curry with a slower release so it'll get blocked more.

[phxspurfan]

Curry with a slower release so it'll get blocked more.

True, every time his shit gets packed I LOL. He's like a kid in the big leagues.

I used to think he could be a Chauncey Bullups type but he doesn't use his frame like Chauncey did, or have the leadership/toughness or PG abilities. He's just a streak shooter that plays shorter than he lists (or is just shorter than he lists) and can't defend.

[monty4329]

He is an adult, can't grow anymore. Euroleague in two years.

[phxspurfan]

guessing ceiling is like Steve Kerr?

Kerr could run offense like a true backup PG (look at the videos from Bulls playoffs or 2003 Spurs playoffs against Dallas). He was also a much faster release shooter so he didn't get embarrassed out there getting his shot sent into the 3rd row like Forbes does every other game or so.

[Siski]

Eddie House

[Drom John]

Five-Thirty-Eight preseason Carmelo projections

Performance of the 10 most comparable players
1
Randy Wittman Year: 1985

2
K. Azubuike Year: 2009

3
E'Twaun Moore Year: 2015

4
Wayne Ellington Year: 2013

5
Shannon Brown Year: 2011

6
Rex Walters Year: 1996

7
Reggie Williams Year: 2012

8
Marco Belinelli Year: 2012

9
Joe Hassett Year: 1981

10
Lucious Harris Year: 1996

[Dex]

Curry with a slower release so it'll get blocked more.

And without the passing ability.

Or the finishing ability.

Or the defense.

[TimDunkem]

And without the passing ability.

Or the finishing ability.

Or the defense.

Or the world class handles.

Or without the creativity on the court.

Or without the swagger and confidence.

Or without pretty much anything other than chucking.

[TimDunkem]

But, yeah, Eddie House without the swagger and even worse defense.

[Hoops Czar]

And without the passing ability.

Or the finishing ability.

Or the defense.

Curry plays defense? That's news to me.

[John B]

He’s not a starter. I thought he was. But he doesn’t have the toughness to go against other starters. I’d think if LW4 can consistently hit shots, he can replace him, with Moore in place of Cunningham.

[sammy]

Can we trade him! He plays no defense!

[TheGreatYacht]

Fatty Mills without the towel waiving

[Dex]

Curry plays defense? That's news to me.

He's not really a plus defender, but he holds his own for his size. Used to average around 2 steals a game, too.

Teams have figured out that Bryn is vulnerable and he is just like a black hole on defense...everything goes through him.

[r0drig0lac]

hum..

[phxspurfan]

But, yeah, Eddie House without the swagger and even worse defense.

Also not as clutch as Eddie House. Also flatter jumpshot, which gets blocked more as well. Also lacking the championship experience House had (Celtics, Heat, etc)

[SAGirl]

He doesn't hold his own, let's be honest here. :lol He plays with some effort etc... but he's a triple negative on defense. end of story.

[phxspurfan]

He's not really a plus defender, but he holds his own for his size. Used to average around 2 steals a game, too.

Teams have figured out that Bryn is vulnerable and he is just like a black hole on defense...everything goes through him.

Correct, all teams know to attack either Forbes, Mills or Cunningham in isos, PnR or switches.

[phxspurfan]

He’s not a starter. I thought he was. But he doesn’t have the toughness to go against other starters. I’d think if LW4 can consistently hit shots, he can replace him, with Moore in place of Cunningham.

LW is a world class athlete in his prime. He should get all the minutes to develop from these low ceiling scrubs.. He's a true lottery talent just as Kawhi was before, when Kawhi was given all the development opportunity in the world here.

[TimDunkem]

He doesn't hold his own, let's be honest here. :lol He plays with some effort etc... but he's a triple negative on defense. end of story.

He's just another chucker really. Some nights he will hit shots and look good. Most he will have 10 points at best - in a league that isn't allowed to play defense at that - and give up 25+ if you give him minutes.

[phxspurfan]

So all our guards suck

I mean isn't Corporate Knowledge playing DDR at the 3 and 4 this year?

White is ok, Beli would be ok if he didn't feel like he has to carry the team, just play SG and get fed passes out of penetration. DeMar is good, again if he didn't have to carry as much. LMA would be awesome if he could get his touches consistently. Bertans would be decent as a starting SF who can camp it out in the corner/wing and just shoot jumpers.


Mills, Forbes and Cunningham have no place on a modern NBA roster.

[phxspurfan]

He's just another chucker really. Some nights he will hit shots and look good. Most he will have 10 points at best - in a league that isn't allowed to play defense at that - and give up 25+ if you give him minutes.

That's also my problem with Forbes. On a good night, what, he gets you 15 points? Real NBA quality streak shooters can get 25+ when hot (JR Smith, Korver, etc). This dude isn't even an above average NBA player at what he does best. And the rest of what he does wasn't even star quality in the NCAA.


Jimmer would be a better shooter/scorer than Forbes.

[John B]

Bottom line is Lonnie Walker your "lottery pick who fell" should be getting his Minutes

other than that don't care about his ceiling, floors, vestibules, or whatever

he SUCKS

He's alright just against other 2nd unit, but not a starter. I'd really think we improve if Pops insert LW4 and Moore, in place of Forbes and Cunningham.

[phxspurfan]

So says the acolytes of the Cult of Cooperate knowledge around here
https://orig00.deviantart.net/4968/f/2012/105/1/0/not_convinced_by_qwistie-d4wazxz.gif
I'm not convinced about "The Pillar"

On good nights, he and DeMar are the only play makers we have. It's all relative, not like we're comparing White to the best in the league here.

[TimDunkem]

Honestly, Bryn Forbes is one of the worst 2s in the NBA. I'd rather have just about every other guard - both PG and SG - in the league over him.

[NASpurs]

The guy is 324 out of 447 players in RPM. He's always going to be a fucking negative... and he's beyond a negative. Like a fucking black hole if you want success.

[r0drig0lac]

Honestly, Bryn Forbes is one of the worst 2s in the NBA. I'd rather have just about every other guard - both PG and SG - in the league over him.

this

[kobyz]

hersey hawkins

[RC_Drunkford]

According to Udoka he is the biggest surprise on the roster. Which means they didn't expect him to be this good. And he is bad, so that means they thought he would be even worse. Makes you wonder why they even resigned him for 2.5 mill if they thought of him like that

[BlackAndWhite]

Question is will he improve. It seems like he's been improving over time

[RD2191]

According to Udoka he is the biggest surprise on the roster. Which means they didn't expect him to be this good. And he is bad, so that means they thought he would be even worse. Makes you wonder why they even resigned him for 2.5 mill if they thought of him like that

:lol

[DPG21920]

Forbes is one player I believe you should throw metrics out the window. He, more than anyone, is asked to fight wayyyyyy above his weight class. He’s got flaws. He’s a role player. But he has improved and if were able ever to excecute in the proper role I think you would see a big shift in his metrics.

[Play Boban]

Realistically How much can Forbes improve until the end of his prime?

His ceiling is Gary Hero Neal.

[SpurPadre]

guessing ceiling is like Steve Kerr?

I should show this to Kerr so he can track you down and bitch slap you, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

The guy is 324 out of 447 players in RPM. He's always going to be a fucking negative... and he's beyond a negative. Like a fucking black hole if you want success.

And that doesn't tell the whole story. He's 324th in RPM in general but when you factor in minutes played, he's amongst the very worst period in that category. Without hyperbole, he's got to be objectively one of the very worst starters in the PATFO era, tbh.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

This is his peak tbh.

[jermaine]

Let's not be dumb an say he hadn't improved at all. He's not the answer plus he was thrown into this position because of Murray's Injury. Him off the bench as a SG wouldn't have been so bad.

[SpurPadre]

Let's not be dumb an say he hadn't improved at all. He's not the answer plus he was thrown into this position because of Murray's Injury. Him off the bench as a SG wouldn't have been so bad.

Yes, he couldn't help but improve with the minutes he's been given but that's not saying much at all. He went from a thoroughly horrible g-leaguer to a guy who is barely justified having a rotation spot on a mediocre NBA team. He's not a decent NBA player, period.

[Keepin' it real]

He peaked in high school, just like most of you losers.

[Hoops Czar]

According to Udoka he is the biggest surprise on the roster. Which means they didn't expect him to be this good. And he is bad, so that means they thought he would be even worse. Makes you wonder why they even resigned him for 2.5 mill if they thought of him like that
It makes you wonder how a Front office that is suppose to be way ahead of the curve when it comes to analytics can be so far off. They're either lying to themselves or they're trying to build up Forbe's confidence. He's being babied by Pop the same way George Lucas babied Lloyd Daniels, another garbage player that had no business being on an NBA roster.

[BackHome]

He is the type of player you want on your team if your tanking. Glad he is on the team this year but next year no reason to keep him as you will have DEROZZ, Walker, Mills, and White at SG.

[kuato]

Nothing...

[SpursDynasty85]

Curry with a slower release so it'll get blocked more.

Lol. Curry's handles and mid range game are so elite you cannot even compare the two. Pop did but I'm sure he was joking. His absolute ceiling is Gary Neal imo. Probably wont get there since Neal was a better athlete.

[gambit1990]

not very much at all.

[Brazil]

Fatty Mills without the towel waiving

:lol tbh...

[jermaine]

I'm tryna sale myself Hope on him. Lol

[spurraider21]

gary neal without moxie

[dbestpro]

The best he could hope is to be a less intelligent of Steve Kerr.

[SpursDynasty85]

The best he could hope is to be a less intelligent of Steve Kerr.

Give him more credit than that. He is much more athletic and Kerr driving for a layup was non existent.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

Gary Neal

[BackHome]

Forbes is a scrub people just trolling that are saying he is improving. Lol

[sasaint]

According to Udoka he is the biggest surprise on the roster. Which means they didn't expect him to be this good. And he is bad, so that means they thought he would be even worse. Makes you wonder why they even resigned him for 2.5 mill if they thought of him like that

Logic don't apply to Pop's pets.

[sasaint]

Oops wrong thread.

[sasaint]

Forbes is a scrub people just trolling that are saying he is improving. Lol

I think he did show improvement at the beginning of the season. The last half dozen games or so, he has regressed. He was probably close to his ceiling early, and now he looks like he needs to go to Austin.

[Ditty]

By not playing

[timtonymanu]

The Jeff Errors of guards

[John B]

I think he did show improvement at the beginning of the season. The last half dozen games or so, he has regressed. He was probably close to his ceiling early, and now he looks like he needs to go to Austin.
He got exposed. People are going thru him like the Panama Canal. He’s good playing as backup SG and can easily lit up, but again not as a starter. At first I thought he was.

[sasaint]

He got exposed. People are going thru him like the Panama Canal. He’s good playing as backup SG and can easily lit up, but again not as a starter. At first I thought he was.

I hope he might still be useful as a backup SG when we have a full roster. But I don't think it has merely been a question of Bryn's being exposed on D; I am not sure he has been working as hard on D as he did to begin the season. Plus, he has been clanking a bunch of open 3-balls, which is particularly troublesome.

[John B]

I hope he might still be useful as a backup SG when we have a full roster. But I don't think it has merely been a question of Bryn's being exposed on D; I am not sure he has been working as hard on D as he did to begin the season. Plus, he has been clanking a bunch of open 3-balls, which is particularly troublesome.
He’s a starter. He’s forcing the issue to score, instead of letting the game come to him. I’m sure he has green light to shoot whenever he’s open. The problem is, and true to today’s roster, is they’re playing outside of their characters, because of lack of personnel. I’m sure it can be fixed if everybody’s healthy and enough time to practice together

[sasaint]

He’s a starter. He’s forcing the issue to score, instead of letting the game come to him. I’m sure he has green light to shoot whenever he’s open. The problem is, and true to today’s roster, is they’re playing outside of their characters, because of lack of personnel. I’m sure it can be fixed if everybody’s healthy and enough time to practice together

I hope you are right, and his shot would return if he were the SG on the 2nd unit.

[duncan2k5]

Lmfao... He is a third string PG... I don't want him playing SG ever... Stop the midget shit

[bic50]

Give him time. He's curry 2.0

[pad300]

And that doesn't tell the whole story. He's 324th in RPM in general but when you factor in minutes played, he's amongst the very worst period in that category. Without hyperbole, he's got to be objectively one of the very worst starters in the PATFO era, tbh.

This is true, but TBF to PatFO, he was not planned as a starter - that was forced by injuries. With that said though, I'd rather have the roster spot and salary cap space to experiment with 10 days and D-League players... I don't think his ceiling is very high at all - a budget Patty Mills (with less experience, corporate knowledge, enthusiasm/leadership and critically, to my eye, athleticism). I'd take Patty at twice Forbes's salary, but on their current contracts, neither is worth the money. So I'd trade him without a qualm for nearly any kind of asset...

[Raven]

he's at his peak, he won't improve much anymore. Perhaps gets better at passing and at rotating on D.

[rogcl1]

guessing ceiling is like Steve Kerr?

Not a Forbes hater, but lol at even mentioning a comparison to Steve Kerr.