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ducks
12-14-2018, 08:56 PM
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/texas-aca-lawsuit/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

Chris
12-14-2018, 09:09 PM
https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F2dJ5Iai t4QrW8%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1

Chris
12-14-2018, 09:09 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1073761497866747904

ElNono
12-14-2018, 09:22 PM
It wasn't unconstitutional when it was ratified by the SCOTUS. Further amendments by the Republican Congress torpedoed it. Which means, they can also make it constitutional again.

At any rate, I'm sure this will be appealed and take a while.

Honestly, considering the GOP still have zero ideas about healthcare, I'm not even sure why they did this to themselves.

ducks
12-14-2018, 09:25 PM
Paul Ryan not in charge
Things will charge

DMX7
12-14-2018, 10:10 PM
Steve Vladeck, a CNN legal analyst and a law professor at the University of Texas School of Law, said he felt an appeal could be looked on favorably by the Supreme Court.
"The ruling relies on conclusions about who can bring this suit and about the impact of President Trump's tax bill that have been widely debunked by scholars from across the political spectrum," Vladeck said. "It will certainly generate headlines, and it may even be upheld by the conservative federal appeals court in Texas, but it's difficult to imagine that the Supreme Court—which has already turned away two challenges to the ACA—would agree with tonight's ruling."

Additionally, the law has not been blocked; therefore it is still in effect until appeals process is exhausted.

Xevious
12-14-2018, 10:11 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1073761497866747904
Get back to me when Trump or any Republican comes up with a single idea on how to do that.

ElNono
12-14-2018, 10:19 PM
I don't think this is very complicated, as far as how it'll play out in Congress.

Pelosi is going to pass a law restoring either the individual mandate or something similar that gives it back it's Constitutionality validity as the SCOTUS reviewed it, and put pressure on the Senate and Trump to basically deny the 20+ million enrolled through ACA.

And it's really unfortunate, because the GOP had full control to put through this "strong law that provides great healthcare", but they don't know what it is.

DMX7
12-14-2018, 10:21 PM
Obamacare passed with 60 votes in the senate and they couldn't even get 50 (+ Pence) to repeal it.

DMC
12-14-2018, 10:45 PM
Get back to me when Trump or any Republican comes up with a single idea on how to do that.

Well shit it's obvious! Universal healthcare! How to fund it? Tax the rich people! Do you really need more than 800sqft to live in?

Chris
12-14-2018, 11:27 PM
Why can't we have individual State mandated health care and just leave the Federal Government out of it entirely?

Xevious
12-14-2018, 11:48 PM
Well shit it's obvious! Universal healthcare! How to fund it? Tax the rich people! Do you really need more than 800sqft to live in?
Not suggesting that at all, just replying to Trump's tweet about GREAT healthcare and protecting pre-existing conditions... also his campaign promise about covering everybody and saving so much money while doing it. They're all full of shit. Just be honest about it. "Sabotage and repeal" is the only plan.

ElNono
12-15-2018, 12:27 AM
Why can't we have individual State mandated health care and just leave the Federal Government out of it entirely?

Because you end up with a disparity of care and expenses, and the good old patient dumping that existed until the federal government intervened (Reagan at that).

Not to mention that States do not have the tools that the federal government has when it comes to funding an area that's increasingly expensive, considering that regulating costs has so far been off the table.

Chucho
12-15-2018, 12:34 AM
Because you end up with a disparity of care and expenses, and the good old patient dumping that existed until the federal government intervened (Reagan at that).

Not to mention that States do not have the tools that the federal government has when it comes to funding an area that's increasingly expensive, considering that regulating costs has so far been off the table.

You'd think regulating healthcare to make it more affordable would be the cheapest way and the first step. But det swamp.

ducks
12-15-2018, 12:38 AM
Why gov not just fix charges thAt dr hostipal charges

ducks
12-15-2018, 12:41 AM
Seeing dr should not cost 800 for 1 hr

ElNono
12-15-2018, 12:46 AM
You'd think regulating healthcare to make it more affordable would be the cheapest way and the first step. But det swamp.

That's part of the incongruity of demanding Congress to make healthcare great, while at the same time wanting the federal government out of the healthcare business.

ElNono
12-15-2018, 12:47 AM
Why gov not just fix charges thAt dr hostipal charges

why do you hate capitalism?

ducks
12-15-2018, 12:55 AM
You think a hot woman dr is worth 800 dollars an hour

ElNono
12-15-2018, 01:13 AM
You think a hot woman dr is worth 800 dollars an hour

If she has enough people lined up willing to pay 800 an hour to see her, why shouldn't her accept that money?

boutons_deux
12-15-2018, 02:08 AM
Expected shitty ruling from a known shitbag Repug judge in shit hole TX

And this asshole is tons better than incompetent, extremist turds Bitch McC / Federalist Soc are excreting, and will continue for two more years.

AaronY
12-15-2018, 08:42 AM
You think a hot woman dr is worth 800 dollars an hour

Lol how did you warp this into like the setup of a porno movie?

boutons_deux
12-15-2018, 08:49 AM
TX Repugs knew which politicized/Christian Taliban politician-in-robes would rule in their favor

" Judge Reed O’Connor’s court, which has become

the conservative starting point for pipelining issues up to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Where did they file their lawsuit, you ask? In the Northern District of Texas, with Judge Reed O’Connor.

In August 2016, O’Connor issued a (https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/08/22/490915833/u-s-judge-grants-nationwide-injunction-blocking-white-house-transgender-policy) nationwide injunction that blocked the Obama administration from enforcing the guidance and protecting transgender students just as the school year was starting.

In his order, O’Connor determined that “sex” does not include gender identity, but only “the biological and anatomical differences between male and female students as determined at their birth.”

https://rewire.news/article/2018/10/26/how-one-court-in-texas-helped-shape-the-current-fight-over-trans-rights/

ducks
12-15-2018, 08:57 AM
If she has enough people lined up willing to pay 800 an hour to see her, why shouldn't her accept that money?
Dr in Yuma at era charges that much did not have a choice
It was guy
Say my wife less then 10 minutes charged the hour fee
100 extra because it was before 8
But his shift started at 6:30 and we wanted an extra high to see him because he was running late

ducks
12-15-2018, 09:00 AM
Yu
TX Repugs knew which politicized/Christian Taliban politician-in-robes would rule in their favor

" Judge Reed O’Connor’s court, which has become

the conservative starting point for pipelining issues up to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Where did they file their lawsuit, you ask? In the Northern District of Texas, with Judge Reed O’Connor.

In August 2016, O’Connor issued a (https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/08/22/490915833/u-s-judge-grants-nationwide-injunction-blocking-white-house-transgender-policy) nationwide injunction that blocked the Obama administration from enforcing the guidance and protecting transgender students just as the school year was starting.

In his order, O’Connor determined that “sex” does not include gender identity, but only “the biological and anatomical differences between male and female students as determined at their birth.”

https://rewire.news/article/2018/10/26/how-one-court-in-texas-helped-shape-the-current-fight-over-trans-rights/




You think they would have filed with 9 circuit in California


What state in USA does buttons like?

benefactor
12-15-2018, 09:25 AM
You think a hot woman dr is worth 800 dollars an hour
Not the kind of women you think are hot tbh

Blake
12-15-2018, 10:10 AM
Lol ducks a socialist now

Will Hunting
12-15-2018, 10:13 AM
Not the kind of women you think are hot tbh
That 13 YO charging him $800 an hour must be a truly special teenager :lol

benefactor
12-15-2018, 05:02 PM
That 13 YO charging him $800 an hour must be a truly special teenager :lol
He said he thought Sarah Huckabee Sanders was hot:lol

boutons_deux
12-17-2018, 07:46 PM
Texas Obamacare Blunder in The Wall Street Journal (https://events-handling-svc.cordial.io/c2/275:5c17cd232fc860ea4a05b2a6:ot:591df78bac0c811781 a7041f:1/0ce93acc?jwtH=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9&jwtP=eyJpYXQiOjE1NDUwOTMxNzYsImNkIjoiLmNvcmRpYWwua W8iLCJjZSI6ODY0MDAsInRrIjoib3p5bGl2ZSIsIm10bElEIjo iNWMxN2NkMjVhZGMzNjBkODdmYTQyNzI4IiwibGlua1VybCI6I mh0dHBzOlwvXC93d3cud3NqLmNvbVwvYXJ0aWNsZXNcL3RleGF zLW9iYW1hY2FyZS1ibHVuZGVyLTExNTQ0OTk2NDE4In0&jwtS=fCtV8NrdmGDJsl4SfjEo5VkDcZR-L_-OTRZlEBxW9no)

“President Trump hailed the ruling in a tweet, but he has never understood the Affordable Care Act.

His administration has done good work revising regulations to reduce health-care costs and increase access,

but the risk is that the lawsuit will cause Republicans in Congress to panic politically and

strike a deal with Democrats that reinforces Obamacare.”


Are Republicans Crazy Enough to Kill Obamacare Like This? by Michael Tomasky in The Daily Beast (https://events-handling-svc.cordial.io/c2/275:5c17cd232fc860ea4a05b2a6:ot:591df78bac0c811781 a7041f:1/7a1ad5fc?jwtH=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9&jwtP=eyJpYXQiOjE1NDUwOTMxNzYsImNkIjoiLmNvcmRpYWwua W8iLCJjZSI6ODY0MDAsInRrIjoib3p5bGl2ZSIsIm10bElEIjo iNWMxN2NkMjVhZGMzNjBkODdmYTQyNzI5IiwibGlua1VybCI6I mh0dHBzOlwvXC93d3cudGhlZGFpbHliZWFzdC5jb21cL2FyZS1 yZXB1YmxpY2Fucy1jcmF6eS1lbm91Z2gtdG8ta2lsbC1vYmFtY WNhcmUtbGlrZS10aGlzIn0&jwtS=LnCdbqqGGEba5CDwKOpMflAr8meQpXFQEZE0YNIwzWI)

“They have no plan for insuring the uninsured.

They don’t want to insure the uninsured.

Oh, maybe, if you’re basically healthy and reasonably well-off (which makes you statistically more likely to be white, which is just a coincidence, honestly!).

But if people are sick and poor, forget it.”

spurraider21
12-17-2018, 07:59 PM
He said he thought Sarah Huckabee Sanders was hot:lol
:lmao no way

Will Hunting
12-18-2018, 07:51 AM
He said he thought Sarah Huckabee Sanders was hot:lol
He also said he wants to pee on 13 YO girls, he’s a weird motherfucker :lol

boutons_deux
12-25-2018, 08:41 AM
Texas’ One-Stop Shopping for Judge in Health Care Case

When lawyers for Texas and 19 other states were deciding where to file a lawsuit seeking to wipe out President Barack Obama’s health care law, they had many choices. But

they settled on a federal courthouse in Fort Worth, Tex.

the lawyers in the health care case did more than choose a venue where the mix of judges was likely to include ones apt to favor their arguments.

They effectively chose their own judge.

That is because there is only one active judge in the Fort Worth Division of the Federal District Court for the Northern District of Texas.

He is Judge Reed O’Connor, and he has quite a track record.

The Texas Tribune found (https://www.texastribune.org/2018/12/19/reed-oconnor-federal-judge-texas-obamacare-forum-shopping-ken-paxton/),

Judge O’Connor has heard almost half of the state’s suits against the federal government filed in federal court in Texas.
A new article (http://hrlr.law.columbia.edu/files/2018/07/AlexBotomanDivisionalJudg.pdf) in The Columbia Human Rights Law Review (http://hrlr.law.columbia.edu/) by Alex Botoman called for an end to such judge shopping.

“As long as court procedures allow politically motivated litigants to pick their judges,

the judiciary risks enabling, rather than combating, the growing view that

judges are mere political actors,”

“That is a risk that a country committed to an independent judiciary can ill afford to take.”

In at least 81 divisions in 30 district courts, he wrote, one or two judges hear all of the division’s cases.

“having divisions with only a few assigned judges makes it easy for plaintiffs to judge shop.”

in cases between two private parties, any hardships that can be attributed to a judge-shopped outcome are typically borne only by the parties to the case,” Mr. Botoman wrote.

“But challenges to laws and regulations are different.”

“Because the effects of these cases are felt well beyond the original parties,”

“it is especially important to ensure that judge assignments are made with the highest degree of impartiality.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/us/politics/texas-judge-obamacare.html

The oligarchy/Repugs/Federalist Soc have, and are polluting the Federal judiciary with Reed O'Connors.

Any and all laws and regs that are progressive, For The People, eg ACA, will be at serious risk, for many decades, and the oligarchy's coup d'etat extends, deepens its unchallengeable control over the country